my next harley will be one of these. I've test ridden 2, and love the bike a lot. best handling stock Harley I've ever ridden. gives me the feeling of power and lean angle a bike should have. I routinely drag hard parts on my SG and Fat Bob but not this bike. I left metrics 6 years ago for Harley and I've missed being able to ride hard in the turns the way I like to do it. this bike is a game changer for guys like me who want a Harley but also want something that can turn fast. I watched a video earlier of a Pan Am hitting 125 on Laguna Seca... awesome bike can't wait to own one.
As an owner of a 2022 Pan Am Special, I'm happy with it, but I think it is more road than off road. I've taken it on rough off road tracks and it will do it, but it is too heavy. I have 45 years experience at riding, lots of years doing motocross and enduro, and if you want to go off road, you need a smaller bike, 450 to 500cc and under 200kg. I love my bike, I ride practically everyday, 90% road and some off road. The bike does need some mods, like different seat (I refused to get Harley Davidson's seat upgrade, if they have a better seat, they should fit it as standard), rear rack with more than 5kg weight limit, real barkbusters not silly plastic ones that come off on the first hit, and bigger off road foot pegs. The crash bars are very good, they save the bike very well when you drop it off road.
Sounds like you love the PA! My brother has 9K on his PA already and he likes it better for long trips than his previous 2016 Street Glide. The only thing he misses is the radio, he likes everything else about the PA better.
I think that overall it’s a positive review of the bike… love it! There are aspects of most bikes that will annoy us, the key is to have the positives outweigh the negatives considerably. 😉✌️ Looking forward to more episodes. ✌️
That sounds like a good trip, I rode through that part of the country on my '03 Night Train in 2008 and loved it. I'm leaving for a 2000+ mile trip on my 2021 Pan Am in two days in Eastern Canada - Cabot Trail in Nova Scotia, over to Newfoundland up the West coast through Gros Morne National Park to the Viking site in L'Ance Aux Meadows. I really dislike the stock seat, I find it too soft. I'm going to get a Corbin but it wasn't in the budget this year. Ride safe out there.
Time to trade the wife in.. 😳 My wife can care less how many motorcycles I have (4) . as long I don't comment about her closet. More like 2 or 3 closets.
We all had a great time riding together. Sorry we missed the second part of the trip. Glad the Pan American is doing great it was nice to ride beside such a motorcycle. Ride Safe
I remember seeing that dude on the jet ski one of those days we were out there. I'm glad you took the PanAmerica instead of the SG. It was cool to see the bike in action. Lots of miles and lots of fun!
That Pan America is special. Such a rad bike. I'm so happy you decided to take it. VAMM was a ton of fun. I'm happy I got to do another motorcycle trip with you buddy. Ride safe out there.
I'm glad to enjoyed the your long trip .I live in east Tennessee area near Bristol Tennessee area. 421 is close me I'm only about 30 minutes away from it and back of the dragon in tazewell is only about 1 hour and 15 minutes away from me. The start of the mid Atlantic backcountry discovery route is only 1 hour and 30 minutes away from me.
I had to replace my wind screen. I towed it {Motow} backwards and the mounts broke off, so I just put a Madstad windscreen on it and that replaces all the cheap thin plastic stuff with metal. I will ride tomorrow and see how it feels. I rode to Arizona and back to Va with those tires. At highway speed, I couldn't even hear my headset from the road noise and that made for a boring ride. The knobbies kicked ass in Moab. I now have Motoz Tractionator GPS tires on it. They did great on my recent ride to Prudo Bay. A little too good, the front kicked so much of that fine silty mud into the radiator, and I had to stop every 20 miles and throw buckets of water on the radiator just so it wouldn't overheat. I do have the fuel pump whine when I power up and my FOB went out today. Other than that, the bike really does great.
Colin make yourselves a custom mode, I have A Mode with Sport, Throttle Max, Engine Braking max, Suspension Comfort It makes a huge difference how the bikes goes and the comfort suspension is much better as deals with the tough roads
HD should consider putting that (or similar) steering damper on other models, how damn good and stable does it make the steering, just fantastic. I put the Sundowner seats on mine - my wife and I find it much more comfie. The Madstad windshield system is much better/super solid/more usable and so clear. The downside is that you can't adjust the height of the Madstad windshield while riding but I'm OK with that given it is superior in every other respect. My next set of tyres will be Dunlop Trailmax Mission, they are a 70/30 tyre (compared to the stock 80/20) but from just many reviews, they are suppose to be more closer to a 50/50 off-road.
Any issue having to deal with the chain on an actually tour? I see one of the biggest issues with any ADV bike as tires. There is no way around it, if you expect any type of tire performance in one type of condition, you are going to sacrifice in another.
Yeah, it's a 3 hour seat, 3 hours and then I got to get off. I'm looking at the Corbin seat, I've had them on two other bikes and I can go almost 9 hours on those. I took a trip from Hampton to Avon NC, (OBX) and I was in pain when I got home.
So between your street glode and pan america, if you had a more comfortable seat which bike is more comfortable for a long trip like that? From a comfort point of view.
Hard to answer. If the PA had that same comfort like the SGS on a long-term ride, I’d ride the PA. Saying that, absolutely nothing wrong with the SGS. My main reason I wanted to ride the PA long distance was I wanted to do several non-street roads. Come to find out that I enjoyed doing street just as much on the PA vs the SGS. The PA is just so much fun to ride.
Glad you finally got around to The Snake, did you do it both ways or just one direction? One of these days I need to get down and do the Foothills Pkwy, missed it the time I was in that area. Also the Cherohala (again). Looking forward to the videos!
I thought that was the direction from the short piece of it in the video. I've done it both ways (twice from Mountain City, three times from the Bristol end), I think I prefer it from the Bristol side but great fun both ways. It was repaved a few years ago, first time I ever rode it was on the older pavement, and it was wet to boot!
Great perspective shared here. I also thought first impression that the seat would be good. I've heard others having code problems as well. Hopefully fixes and updates get those kinks worked out. Ride safe. 👍👊🇺🇸
I don't think you can go wrong with any of the "Big ADV" bikes! I put that sheepskin cover on my seat and it made a difference on an already comfy seat on the Tiger. Yeah, the computers on most of these "techy bikes" have those glitches....just like a computer, reboot! lol! Sounds like a very epic ride!
Good to here. I still have mine. The clutch is not 100% yet. HD still scratching there head on it. But till them I'm still riding it. Having a blast. Looking forward to taking it on MABDR in September. Got a set of TKC 70 Rocks to put on before the trip. I'm on to much pavement for the 50/50's.
👍 Cool, Nice seeing you getting out and doing longer trips. my KTM i keep in sport mode unless i am off road. Check out these MOTOZ TRACTIONATOR GPS tires i love mine
I have yet to get a code to cause any issues while riding. HD did release another update this week ( I do not have it). Around July 31st. The windshield starts that wobble at about 65 for me. 3 hours in the seat starts to get to me. Love this bike and appreciate all the input from fellow riders. Ride safe.
That's always the struggle with dualsport, matching the perfect tire with the anticipated terrain. It's nice to hear you say 90mph and Pan America in the same sentence. I am looking forward to the accompanying videos.
my next harley will be one of these. I've test ridden 2, and love the bike a lot. best handling stock Harley I've ever ridden. gives me the feeling of power and lean angle a bike should have. I routinely drag hard parts on my SG and Fat Bob but not this bike. I left metrics 6 years ago for Harley and I've missed being able to ride hard in the turns the way I like to do it. this bike is a game changer for guys like me who want a Harley but also want something that can turn fast. I watched a video earlier of a Pan Am hitting 125 on Laguna Seca... awesome bike can't wait to own one.
Dale, very happy with this bike. It does amazing in the corners. So damn fun.
As an owner of a 2022 Pan Am Special, I'm happy with it, but I think it is more road than off road. I've taken it on rough off road tracks and it will do it, but it is too heavy. I have 45 years experience at riding, lots of years doing motocross and enduro, and if you want to go off road, you need a smaller bike, 450 to 500cc and under 200kg. I love my bike, I ride practically everyday, 90% road and some off road. The bike does need some mods, like different seat (I refused to get Harley Davidson's seat upgrade, if they have a better seat, they should fit it as standard), rear rack with more than 5kg weight limit, real barkbusters not silly plastic ones that come off on the first hit, and bigger off road foot pegs. The crash bars are very good, they save the bike very well when you drop it off road.
Sounds like you love the PA! My brother has 9K on his PA already and he likes it better for long trips than his previous 2016 Street Glide. The only thing he misses is the radio, he likes everything else about the PA better.
Couldn’t agree more. The radio would be nice but I do have it in my helmet.
I think that overall it’s a positive review of the bike… love it!
There are aspects of most bikes that will annoy us, the key is to have the positives outweigh the negatives considerably. 😉✌️
Looking forward to more episodes. ✌️
Definitely more positives than negatives.
Sounds like a great time and glad you took the PA. Looked like some amazing roads. Looks like your just whipping around those curves.
We missed you my friend. We enjoyed the twisties for sure.
Noiceeeee!!! I just purchased a 2022 Pan America Special a week ago and I am super excited!!!
I’m very happy for you. Hope you enjoy it.
2000 miles makes for a trip filled with memories bro.
Lots of great memories my friend
That sounds like a good trip, I rode through that part of the country on my '03 Night Train in 2008 and loved it. I'm leaving for a 2000+ mile trip on my 2021 Pan Am in two days in Eastern Canada - Cabot Trail in Nova Scotia, over to Newfoundland up the West coast through Gros Morne National Park to the Viking site in L'Ance Aux Meadows. I really dislike the stock seat, I find it too soft. I'm going to get a Corbin but it wasn't in the budget this year.
Ride safe out there.
That sounds like an incredible trip. So many great views. Corbin seats have always been way too firm for me.
Great video. Wish I could trade my 21 ultra in for a pan America but wife said no way.
Time to trade the wife in.. 😳 My wife can care less how many motorcycles I have (4) . as long I don't comment about her closet. More like 2 or 3 closets.
@@mikec1254 hahah yes the closet thing is real. Yes idk if I could swing 2 bikes as I have a challenger hellcat as well lol.
The wives always seem to get in the way. Lol
We all had a great time riding together. Sorry we missed the second part of the trip. Glad the Pan American is doing great it was nice to ride beside such a motorcycle. Ride Safe
Wish I could have rode the Widowmaker with you guys. Glad we were able to ride in Virginia for a day.
I remember seeing that dude on the jet ski one of those days we were out there. I'm glad you took the PanAmerica instead of the SG. It was cool to see the bike in action. Lots of miles and lots of fun!
I was out there for the OTR event at BOTD. Great time. Love the roads around there. I only rode 554 miles that weekend, but it was amazing.
@@EvesRacing Very cool man! It was neat seeing you on the road!
Thanks Eves. You gave us lots to talk about once we got back. That jet ski was so cool.
That Pan America is special. Such a rad bike. I'm so happy you decided to take it. VAMM was a ton of fun. I'm happy I got to do another motorcycle trip with you buddy. Ride safe out there.
So happy you picked up Heritage. Glad we were able to ride again my friend.
I'm glad to enjoyed the your long trip .I live in east Tennessee area near Bristol Tennessee area. 421 is close me I'm only about 30 minutes away from it and back of the dragon in tazewell is only about 1 hour and 15 minutes away from me. The start of the mid Atlantic backcountry discovery route is only 1 hour and 30 minutes away from me.
You are blessed to have those roads in your backyard. I just spent a week there and loved it. So many roads, so little time my friend.
I had to replace my wind screen. I towed it {Motow} backwards and the mounts broke off, so I just put a Madstad windscreen on it and that replaces all the cheap thin plastic stuff with metal. I will ride tomorrow and see how it feels. I rode to Arizona and back to Va with those tires. At highway speed, I couldn't even hear my headset from the road noise and that made for a boring ride. The knobbies kicked ass in Moab. I now have Motoz Tractionator GPS tires on it. They did great on my recent ride to Prudo Bay. A little too good, the front kicked so much of that fine silty mud into the radiator, and I had to stop every 20 miles and throw buckets of water on the radiator just so it wouldn't overheat. I do have the fuel pump whine when I power up and my FOB went out today. Other than that, the bike really does great.
I’ve been told there is a service bulletin for the starter issue but of course, it’s on backorder until March. I’m going to check out those Motoz.
Colin make yourselves a custom mode, I have A Mode with Sport, Throttle Max, Engine Braking max, Suspension Comfort
It makes a huge difference how the bikes goes and the comfort suspension is much better as deals with the tough roads
I have one, but I definitely need to tweak it some. I didn’t use on trip and I should have.
HD should consider putting that (or similar) steering damper on other models, how damn good and stable does it make the steering, just fantastic. I put the Sundowner seats on mine - my wife and I find it much more comfie. The Madstad windshield system is much better/super solid/more usable and so clear. The downside is that you can't adjust the height of the Madstad windshield while riding but I'm OK with that given it is superior in every other respect. My next set of tyres will be Dunlop Trailmax Mission, they are a 70/30 tyre (compared to the stock 80/20) but from just many reviews, they are suppose to be more closer to a 50/50 off-road.
That’s a great idea with the steering. On my next set, I will probably do 70/30. Just need a tire that is best of both and that’s difficult.
Excellent video. Had such a great time riding with you guys. Sport mode is KING! Lol
Yes, you tore it up on sport mode. I’m so used to road mode and it did great too.
Any issue having to deal with the chain on an actually tour? I see one of the biggest issues with any ADV bike as tires. There is no way around it, if you expect any type of tire performance in one type of condition, you are going to sacrifice in another.
Not so far. I just clean every 600 miles or so but working well. I agree on the tires. There isn’t a perfect tire.
Sounds like a great time. If I could afford a second bike I would get one. I miss my youthful dirt bike days. Thanks for sharing.
I’m not youthful at all but still enjoy the dirt. 😎
Yeah, it's a 3 hour seat, 3 hours and then I got to get off. I'm looking at the Corbin seat, I've had them on two other bikes and I can go almost 9 hours on those. I took a trip from Hampton to Avon NC, (OBX) and I was in pain when I got home.
Haha, very true. It isn’t horrible but I do need a better seat for the long rides.
Glad you had a great time. Planning on being there next year my friend.
That’s great news. You will enjoy the camaraderie and riding.
So between your street glode and pan america, if you had a more comfortable seat which bike is more comfortable for a long trip like that? From a comfort point of view.
Hard to answer. If the PA had that same comfort like the SGS on a long-term ride, I’d ride the PA. Saying that, absolutely nothing wrong with the SGS. My main reason I wanted to ride the PA long distance was I wanted to do several non-street roads. Come to find out that I enjoyed doing street just as much on the PA vs the SGS. The PA is just so much fun to ride.
I would take a seat that's good for 3 hours when you're riding around off road would be good wouldn't it?
Yes, short trips, it is perfectly fine.
How’d you mount the nav on top of your TFT? Looks amazing
Techmount is company name. Just search Pan America and it will come up.
Glad you finally got around to The Snake, did you do it both ways or just one direction? One of these days I need to get down and do the Foothills Pkwy, missed it the time I was in that area. Also the Cherohala (again). Looking forward to the videos!
We did it from Mountain City to Bristol. You weren’t kidding about that road. Amazing
I thought that was the direction from the short piece of it in the video. I've done it both ways (twice from Mountain City, three times from the Bristol end), I think I prefer it from the Bristol side but great fun both ways. It was repaved a few years ago, first time I ever rode it was on the older pavement, and it was wet to boot!
Great perspective shared here. I also thought first impression that the seat would be good. I've heard others having code problems as well. Hopefully fixes and updates get those kinks worked out. Ride safe. 👍👊🇺🇸
Nothing major with the codes. The firmware updates have fixed many of these glitches.
Who makes the GPS mount that you are using? Do you like it?
Touratech and it works great.
Get another set of rims so you can have street tires ready to go in 15 minutes.
That would be nice for sure
Have they gotten all the bugs out of it yet?
With most of the updates they did on their systems, it fixed 99% of the issues with electronics
Any issues with heat on the right side?
Somewhat it did, but nothing crazy. I could feel heat at stops. I don’t consider it to be uncomfortable though.
I don't think you can go wrong with any of the "Big ADV" bikes! I put that sheepskin cover on my seat and it made a difference on an already comfy seat on the Tiger. Yeah, the computers on most of these "techy bikes" have those glitches....just like a computer, reboot! lol! Sounds like a very epic ride!
I need a little more padding for my sore butt. 😎
A great bike Colin.
Thank you Bob.
We are looking into a Pan America here in Australia.... This is great information to know about. Thank you!
Would be great out there.
Sounds like a great time!!!! Looking forward to hearing more about the PanAmerica!
I have heard some good things about how it rides!
It’s an absolute blast.
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Good to here. I still have mine. The clutch is not 100% yet. HD still scratching there head on it. But till them I'm still riding it. Having a blast. Looking forward to taking it on MABDR in September. Got a set of TKC 70 Rocks to put on before the trip. I'm on to much pavement for the 50/50's.
I still can’t believe they can’t fix that. You’ve been dealing with that for months it seems. I’m going to look into the TKC 70.
👍 Cool, Nice seeing you getting out and doing longer trips. my KTM i keep in sport mode unless i am off road. Check out these MOTOZ TRACTIONATOR GPS tires i love mine
I will look into those tires for sure.
very nice!
Thank you Perry.
I have yet to get a code to cause any issues while riding. HD did release another update this week ( I do not have it). Around July 31st. The windshield starts that wobble at about 65 for me. 3 hours in the seat starts to get to me. Love this bike and appreciate all the input from fellow riders. Ride safe.
I saw that release. You can do it from home now. It’s on the website. Haven’t done the new one yet.
Glad you are enjoying your Pan American! I’m looking forward to the ride videos of your trip!
Thanks sir. Look forward to putting them together.
That's always the struggle with dualsport, matching the perfect tire with the anticipated terrain. It's nice to hear you say 90mph and Pan America in the same sentence. I am looking forward to the accompanying videos.
It did great on the highways sans the windshield. Very easy to go fast on this.
Great to see you are still enjoying the Pan American, sounds like some mods are coming though, cheers Dave
Maybe a couple but not much after that. Lol.
What are the bar ends you installed?
www.hvmp.com/mobile/Product.aspx?ProductCode=F28
I like them. Helps with vibration
Glad you had a great time! Miles of smiles *lol*
It sure was. We really enjoyed it.
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