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How to make Fret Beveling Files
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- Опубліковано 28 січ 2017
- With the Cigar Box Guitar build coming up, I started looking at some tools I could use to help build it. I decided to make some simple Fret End Files to get the frets nice and smooth. These are easy to build and can be very helpful in the neck building process. I used some files, plastic sheet, and a chunk of mahogany to make these.
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Yes, I love the way you clamp your belt sander and router to the table. You learn something new everyday! I remember in 4th grade going into the school library, looking at the encyclopedia pictures. Learned so much looking at the pictures without reading, makes sense now that I'm a visual learner. You have to love UA-cam, for me it's a visual encyclopedia!
Thanks, I too learn be seeing and doing. Reading only get me so far.
I’ve watched a few of your vids but this last few minutes have been so heartwarming.
I raised 2 daughters and had so many similar moments as you did.
I just wish I could’ve recorded them. I’m now in my 70s and really miss those times. Thank you.
BTW she is precious and you can see the love and joy shared between you to.
Excellent video! Can't believe I've never thought of clamping my router and belt sanders upside down. Dude that is next level and a great idea I will be using going forward. So, thank-you!
That, my friend, is a set of files your grand-kids will be admiring. Brilliant. Simple. Well done.
+Seth Tyrssen thank you very much. I'm happy with them, and they work great.
Love the video brother. I Enjoy watching your craft. Keep up the great work🤙🏼
Thanks my friend.
Love the fact you get your daughter involved. Girls should be empowered to be whatever they want to be. I'm hoping when my daughter is a bit older I can do some fun UA-cam guitar related videos with her.
I like to teach her the problem solving and learning how things work and go together. It's not all about the project. 👍
I love your work
Thank You!
THUMBS UP for the adorable little girl!
Nice presantation love from. Kerala
Thank you so much 🙂
Those files turned out really well, gonna totally follow your exact process and make my own set! Thanks Jeff!
+Ulf Skjerve thank you. They work awesome. Probably don't need the plastic but it really slides nice with it.
just some strips of painters tape on the underside of the file would do.
Brilliant. Always love making tools for cheaper than what you can buy them for, plus the advantage of being homemade. Love your channel!
Thank You! I too really enjoy making and using homemade tools.
I saw these files in another one of your videos & I had to see how you made them.Awesome idea,I’m really looking forward to making some of these.This channel rocks
Thanks! I'm glad its helpful for you.
Good job.
Thanks!
As a former machinist, I'm used to making and designing tools for a job. I really like a different input and/or design. Thanks.
Thank you for the detailed, accessible video. I am going to make these ASAP! Sweet kiddo too!
Impressive final cuts. Congrats.
Excelent !!!!
Nice tools
Great work Jeff, always inspiring others to get out there and give it a go. Cheers from Oz.
Great video but the ending deserves a thumbs up! So cute! Thanks
Love your honesty
Nicely done.
You did that with less than perfect shop tools. Extra points for that.
Thanks, you don't always need super fancy stuff. Use what you have. 👍
You are correct there, That is the mark of a true craftsman. Having the ability and knowledge to get the jog done with the tools at hand.
Cool work.....and with a kid like that, everythings good :)
Nice job!
love the router table👍 awesome kiddo your blessed🙂
Thank You!
Thanks Jeff for your reply
I wouldn't glue the files. I'd secure them inside the slots with some screws just to have chance to flip them on the other side when working side worn out.
Great hack, thanks for sharing!
Wow really nice!
+ultrafloss492 thank you
Great vid!
First tools!
Always love your videos Jeff! This one is no exception. Love it! If I was you, I would have drilled a bunch of little tiny holes all over the plastic on the one side where it would be stuck to the wood. That way, the epoxy could sink into the tiny holes and grab better. I'm sure the epoxy didn't want to stick to the plastic. But with a bunch of little holes counter sunk, it would stick great. Just my opinion. Thanks so much for the awesome videos buddy!
Thanks. There are several things I could have done to make it stick better. The little holes would probably have been a great idea. I may have to make a new set just to experiment. 👍
This is excellent work.
I would improve it by installing screws to hold the files, rather than the epoxy which already failed with the plastic. Even if it does work well, this way with screws, you can replace the file at any time. Even use different files on the same block.
+nicolashrv if I make more, I will probably use screws. So far so good though.
Drilled and tapped, either tapped into hardwood OR using inserts, the files could be held in with grub screws.
Might want to add a set screw from the side to hold the file in as it loosens up from removing and inserting.
Hi, i am fromm Brasil . Congratulations for the video and you have one more in your channel. God bless you.
Great and informative!
Hi Jeff.... very neat work, you look at all details, but left one out! When gluing plastic with Epoxy or any other glue... always light sand the part that is going to be glued, has to take off the shinning part and let the glue do it`s job, otherwise it will unglue fast... but the over all project is nice
Thanks. I probably could have roughed it up more but as of right now, its holding up. 👍
Yes.... with screws it won´t came off,
Excelente...!!!
Cool project. And cute kid!
I used to use this type of fret filing block but found the filings accumulate on the block and scratch the frets. The filing can also stain a light colored neck. So now I file each fret end individually which is a pain but has a better result.
I have seen exactly what you are referring to. I try to keep it as clean as possible to avoid it.
nice work!
+René Kok thank you. They worked great.
Nicely done. I recently discovered that the fret bevel is off on one of my basses. As a result, the string closest to the edge of the fingerboard slips off the edge of the neck at certain places on the neck. Initially I thought this was due to the nut being improperly slotted, but a local luthier explained to me it was actually a problem with the fret bevel.
She’s a natural
good job man
+Bison Workshop thanks!
woodworking= 10% designing, measuring, cutting, gluing stuff - 90% sanding. lol
+LevitatorMusic that's the truth.
you can use a plane or scraper and sand afterwards
Spring to 10:07 for the best part... :-)
Muito bom o vídeo!
Very Good Video, thank you very much.
very cool
Thanks for the great info Jeff, have already started making a set
+Gordon Steeves awesome! Let me know how they turn out.
Very good, Thank you.
+texxos57 thank you. They work great.
+texxos57 thanks!
You're cool. I like your style.
I make these all of the time, but these are nicer. Maybe if I made them this way, I wouldn't have to make them over and over.
Thank you! So far, these are still working great. I haven't had to remake them yet. 👍
nice work safety goggles would be nice😜
i think the plastic probably is the best choice
Hey, I think I like the way you make them …- can you make me one and let me know how much would that cost? I appreciate this and thank you.
I think if you would drill a few like 3/8 diameter holes only like 1/4” deep would help the plastic stick better. I thought the plastic is cool. He’s just bummed they didn’t stick. Touch up the side aggressively where you glue as well.
Very nice. Thank you. How would you replace the files? Just make a new one?
Thanks, I guess if these wore out, I'd just have to make a new one. You may be able to use some set screws and threaded inserts to hold the files. That would make them replaceable.
that was great thanks
How about gluing a 3/8" thick pine board at the bottom of the hardwood? Or just make the whole think from pine (or spruce)?
I find 35degress is too steep a bevel, you can lose 3mm of fretboard width, 15/20 degrees is better for me, also for the 90degree file for getting frets level with the edge of the board it's best if the file only protrudes 2/3mm or it wrecks the finish along the neck, cheers.
Hi! I plan on making some of these babies today, and want to use your exact method. Was wondering if you could give me the dimensions of the fret bevelling file (I’m going full copy cat, hope that’s okay 😛). Thanks in advance and great video!
Copy away. Lol. These are 7" long.
Jeff, you could have placed the file in the center and cut the bevel into one side. that would give you both files in one.
That's another option. Would definitely save drawer space.
Awesome.
thank you . suggestion if you please . instead of epoxy use set screws so you can change files ? oh and good job . love the helper good going dad
+Walter Rider I thought about set screws. I decided that if I ever wear out the files, I'll just make some more and not use the plastic on the base. Then I'll probably use set screws.
Lovely kid, wish mine were that age again. They are moody teenagers now, still love em though.
Hi Jeff, I'm a new subscriber. I really like those fret end beveling tools you made. I have watched your videos many times, just now subscribing though. I am a custom guitar builder myself. I have currently just moved and some of my power tools are in storage unfortunately. I still have my business and I need some of these quick. How I'm gonna make them stuck in an apartment, I have no idea. lol.
+Matt Temple could you use a hand saw and chisel to make the cuts? It might work. Maybe try to find someone near you with a shop you could use. That might be easier. You might know someone with a table saw.
Interesting project. Wouldn't the 90 degree file scratch the side of the fretboard/neck? Actually, if the frets are properly measured, cut and pressed-in, why would you need the 90 degree file at all? The 30 degree is all you'd need and the one you made is truly very nicely put together!
+Χωρίς Όνομα thank you. I agree with you, if everythi is correct it shouldn't be necessary, but I always seem to have a few stubborn frets that want to be different. This file takes care of them quickly. I don't file right on the side of the neck, i stop just shy of scraping it up.
also, guitar fingerboards can shrink. especially if the guitar is a new one and the wood wasn't dried correctly to start with.
I'd buy these. Hopefully at less than a quarter of the Stewmac price.
What coarseness are the files?
+Batmaniak7 I'm not sure exactly. They are regular hardware store files. Probably a medium grit.
what's your next guitar build gonna be you know I'd be really interested in seeing you build a double neck something like the Jimmy Page Gibson SG
+punkfan97 I'm working on a 3 string cigar box guitar. Should be wrapping it up in the next few days.
" Now " I have to find all those expensive tools , and start the process !!!
Great video, your daughter is hilarious. Subscribed to instagram also.
+Nivek Marshall awesome! Thank you. She keeps me laughing for sure.
I like how you looked away right when you said, "that is a promise." How do we know we can trust you? ;)
+UkeMasterDewey I didn't even notice that. Lol. I just used them for real yesterday. They worked great. Video coming soon.
This guy looks like Dom Woganowski from There's Something About Mary
Reminds me of the cameraman from Groundhog Day
Hey Jeff!! awesome video! I noticed you have notched miter tracks on your table saw, yet you have a nice little sled for it. Do you have a video on how you made that, or would you be able to let me know what you used for your sled please? I have a Tradesman 10" table saw with the same type of tracks.
+Mike DiPaolo sure, I took a dremel and ground off the notches, so a couple hardwood runners could drop in. Then I glued on a piece of melamine to the runners, reinforced them with countersunk screws from underneath and screwed on a fence. Make sure the fence is exactly square to the blade. That's the critical part. The piece on the front is for some extra support. Hope that all makes sense. Let me know if you have questions.
Awesome! Thank you so much Jeff!
Future You Tube and Instagram star...she stole the show!
I know nothing about woodworking or have the tools to do so. Do you take orders for these?
What kind of file did you use to glue in?
Next week - how to make your own table saw, belt sander, router and digital angle finder....unless you can make something without specialist equipment you might as well buy them new...
Woogie
what's the name of that plastic again and where can I get it?
I believe its HDPE or something very similar.
I did a little bit of research and it is High Density Polyethylene (HDPE), also known as polyethylene high-density (PEHD), It is what is used to make those kitchen cutting boards we see all over the place. You should be able to find those on the cheap in the Dollar stores
Less than $70? How much did you pay for the bench saw?
What is the total cost to make these?
+Philahundro Its really just the cost of the files and a piece of wood. Files I used are 8 or 9 dollars or less if you have some.
2:54 what yah doin there bud
How do you control the dust?
+zardozica do you mean the dust from the files? I just brush it off as I go.
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Most plastics don't work well with epoxy, especially smooth surfaces. The glue has no way to penetrate the surface of the plastic, and hence, has no strength. Successful plastic glues actually melt the plastic pieces together, acting more like a weld than a glue - think PVC and ABS pipe glue.
She's too cute haha
Dude looks like Chris Elliot ! But this a good video
Thanks man. I like Chris Elliot! 👍
i thought the same thing. even his facial expressions. lol! I love chris elliott!
If you can afford the $5000 worth of shop tools you could probably afford to just order the right equipment for the jonpb from Stewmac or something?
Im pretty sure im gonna make a set of files like that... Meanwhile.. Could U give ur daugher a hug from me... Shes a true beam of sunlight - Bright and enjoyable
Your kid is really sweet. How old was she on this video? Make sure she uses safety googles when she cuts on a table saw. LOL...
+Raindrop Services thank you. She's 5. I will make sure she's safe. 👍
You are inhaling a lot of wood particles and some metal particles. This tool can be had for $45, with 35 and 90 degree slots in the same tool. Tools take space!
Perfect video and sweet girl
I'm glad you used the safety glasses when your daughter was present, but when you were sanding, you didn't appear to be wearing them. Did I blink and miss it?
+Jerome Dennis it is possible I forgot them. I do try to teach her safety in the shop.
Best regards
Now you know why it costs 70 bucks ; )
Nice job, but ........ 35 degrees is *WAY* too steep of an angle for fret ends. You lose far too much real estate on the top of the fret.
Every seasoned guitarist knows (or should know) that a 20 degree angle is far superior, as long as the fret ends are subsequently shaped properly after having first been sanded to that angle.
Its not under $70 when you add a table saw and belt sander.
Of course you could have taken them into the house to cure overnight....
+sclogse1 true.