Why I'm returning the Google Nest Hub Max
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I was expecting more from Google's Nest Hub Max. A lot more.
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Why I'm returning the Google Nest Hub Max
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So, basically, you wanted a Google brand iPad with a magnetic back table top mount with Google Assistant instead of Siri, lol? 🤪
Google sends Kyle a message: "You don't like our Nest Hub device? Hmmm... You DID want to keep your YT channel. Didn't you?"
Won’t take off why? Because it wasn’t Lyle who made the video?
@@buzzman4860 because UA-cam is owned by Google
I would bet that more time was spent in developement of 'streamlining' the android os functionality than would have been necessary to ship with a tablet version of android and create a hands-free centered app to ship with the device. That app could handle all of the advertised 'features' but more importantly not omit features that people who are interested in this type of product may expect from a tech product at that price point.
This device, as described by Kyle, seems like an exercise in showing off some of the different tech that Google now owns.
Cheers
You should have sent Lyle to the Google head office and try to RMA it.
Lyle: "My bird died in your Nest"
lmao that would be an amazing video.
Maybe Lyle manufactured yours.
Thanks for this video. I almost picked this up due to the Black Friday sale pricing. But i felt like it was missing some features. Glad I'm not alone in that.
Since this video came out griping on the max there has been numerous updates, and added apps like Hulu, Netflix, Disney plus etc..Most of the gripes have been hashed out. The only gripes I still have with this is that it's too expensive for a display with a 800 resolution, and the limited UA-cam control. I don't have the problem with random ads because it's signed into my premium account, but the limited functions of their own website is sad..
"The Mic is always listening", that's called a "Bug".
If a government was doing it, it would be called "spying" LOL
aka "Domestic Surveillance Device"
smartroadbiker if the Democrats were doing it would just be normal js Epstein didn’t kill himself
@SolidSnakeOil That is known as a Telescreen. "1984" by George Orwell read it if you haven't.
Not in Google's world, that's a feature
Good to see your favorites includes Linus :D
I stream Netflix and Disney + to my nest hub all the time.....
Won't let me add either service
Same here. I watch netflix on it just fine
I understand the criticism from when this device came out by Bitwit. My usage with this machine have been great so far for my needs. I keep mine in my kitchen, far away from our family room and screen. I use it to look up and follow recipes while cooking. My house uses it as a speaker for music while cooking and for family dinners. And when I am away from home I can use the camera to monitor anyone in the kitchen and talk to my family with the Duo app. Eventually when we get outdoor and a doorbell camera it will be the monitor we use when in the kitchen. So for my family we use this several times daily but the barrier of entry was steep.
Just picked up the new normal one and it's perfect for what I need it for and what it's made for, extra lil screen in my kitchen that can play music and cast videos to. I think as long as they're priced well and cheap then it's gonna be great plus nice to see it can control other home devices. Fair call though if I had paid 2.5x times the price for the big one I would probably be annoyed, that being said I want the bigger speaker haha but that's not worth the extra price!
Make sure to update your video:) There have been many improvements in the last two years including being able to link Disney plus, Netflix, Hulu, UA-cam which also carries your purchased google play movies in it's library now even, and a few others. While there is still room for improvements, it's definitely not this basic anymore.
This is the first honest and detailed review of this product that I have seen. This is exactly what I needed to decide if I was going to buy it or not. Thank you very much!
1979: "I hope the government didn't wiretape my phone."
2019: "Hey wiretap, what's the weather for tomorrow ?"
When everyone is wire tapped, nobody is wiretapped.
Quite a bit of misinformation here and underutilised in your testing.
It's a voice assistant. Hence it's in the 'home' or now the 'nest' range - it's not designed to be or meant to be a fully fledged tablet experience. You can ask for and watch UA-cam vids by name or search query, cast any video to it from UA-cam or Netflix and others, ask for and receive a whole host of search results. You can drop in on your CCTV cameras (Nest or others), it has a built-in Nest camera too. We use ours to stream our little daughters room as a baby monitor (nest camera in her room, and no we aren't worried about some weirdo hacking into our cameras as have a secure mesh network) and when the doorbell goes the visitor pops up on the screen where you can speak to them.
You can stream Spotify, Google Play Music (or Tune-In radio and BBC radio player here in the UK) and have it as part of a multi-room speaker group. In my kitchen I have the hub and at the other end a Google Max speaker for stereo sound.
We have ours connected to Google Photos so it displays an always-up-to-date digital photo frame.
Yeah, I'm locked into their ecosystem, but rather that than Amazon's which is the equivalent of the Ring doorbells Vs the Google-owned Nest Doorbell. Just a bit shite looking and mainstream, and everyone has them...like an iPhone!
Personally as I'm neither a criminal or a terrorist, or live in North Korea, I'm not overreacting about being listened too or watched.
Plus, personalised adverts ... rather that than irrelevant ones - how do we think this whole search and smart device thing hangs together?
THIS! Thank you! Finally, someone gets it.
Thanks for this video! I am new to the whole Google Assistant/smart home architecture. I got a free Google home mini with my upgrade to Spotify premium and have been enjoying the use of it so far! Are your issues primarily with this specific device or Google's architecture in particular? Are there other devices you would recommend to expand on one's smart home experience?
That commercial you did in the beginning. Love it lol
Very informative video. I'd be interested to see you give similar devices like the Echo Show or Facebook Portal a spin just to see if they are also lacking in functionality.
Thanks so much for this video, was really considering buying one of these and won’t be wasting my money now
That ad was enjoyable, Lyle's brother
Not something I'll afford ever. But I'm sure streamers and people who need 2 PC's love this.
it's around a ~$200 tablet that is meant to supplement your NEST and Google home experience.. you returned it because it's not an an worthy of your entertainment needs. The hub acts as a screen for your nest cams, a reliable google assistant, and you can cast anything you want to watch from your phone. It's also a great slideshow for pictures. idk what you expected from the hub max.
Oh man, almost bought one for smart device control.
Instead I bought a cheap wireless charger stand and used an old nexus as a remote control. I also wanted buttons for my lights to view as widgets. I used widget screensaver for always on display and added ifttt widgets to show with a low brightness to prevent burn-in. Works pretty great.
With it being December 1st, this is the last HUB on my mind
Loooooo that was a good one
Your grandpa will be over the moon if you give him a $200 hub gift card but sad if you give him a google hub
Hey Kyle I really appreciate your videos man keep up the great work. Have you ever thought about doing a review for the Amazon Alexa echo show?
Mister Kyle.
May I kindly ask what wallpaper you're using on the machine in the back?
I dig that artstyle
Good rant 10/10, would watch again!
Especially since I've tried its smaller brother and I agree with everything, it feels like an afterthought.
@Bitwit, great and honest review! Thank you for sharing it with the public!
Would be interesting to know what you thought of the sound quality versus the Sonos One's. I appreciate they're not really in the same league
From another PC enthusiast's perspective on the Google Home Hub that wanted to finally take the plunge onto making my home "smart". I didn't like it's limitations either so after finding the requirements to run Google Home/Assistant I went looking for an Android tablet with close to the same specs. All it needed to have is at least Android Lollipop (some sites said Marshmallow, but whatever, I can root the device and put a custom ROM on it), 2.4 GHz WI-fI, and Bluetooth (I couldn't find a specific spec, but most GA devices have at least 4.1). I looked on Ebay and found SEVERAL tablets in the $50 to 100 dollar price point that easily covered these specs. I ended up finding a HTC Nexus 9 for 50 bucks! It has BT 4.1, 2.4 and 5 GHz a/b/n/ac Wi-Fi, and updatable to Nougat 7.1.1, so all the bases are covered, PLUS it's a Google endorsed product. BONUS! Now the microphone issue, since a tablet's mic isn't suited for picking up voices from a distance. I picked up a EDUTIGE EIM-001 far field microphone for under 30 dollars on Amazon. So I now have a much more capable device with full Android Nougat and all of the full Play Store apps. The resolution is FAR superior with the Nvidia Tegra K1 chipset and decent stereo sound with HTC's "Boom Sound". Once I invested in a case/stand for the tablet, I'm still under $100 dollars for a much better Google Home Hub experience and have the option to go portable with the tablet if I want also!
Hey so i have a question about the pre roll advertising the dual psu in one thing , does it harm giving constant power to HDD's ? Sata ssds ,
I mean that drives which are of second system while system 1 being powered on because according to the pics it seems like there is constantly power in pcie and sata ports of either system when either is powered on
My favorite part about the Google home hub is that it works just like a Chromecast! You can just cast almost any app from your phone. And you can cast your phone screen onto it. Not sure why that isn't mentioned here
Yeah, he mentioned it. It's a very obvious solution to his problems. Plus if you don't have UA-cam Premium you are watching ads on every screen. Since I have premium I don't see ads on mine. Like he said, he was just ranting because he didn't do his research first
2:53 I don't know about the Max, but on the smaller one you can cast Hulu to it from your phone.
Started 18 days after he posted this video...
What’s your recommended alternative then?
Love that you're covering some smart home stuff. Would like to see more of it from you. FWIW I just got an Echo Show 8 and it has 2 browsers built in, sounds great and is 1/3 the price of that Google Max on the date of this post. Watched some Plex on it through Firefox last night. Works great. You should do a review on it!
You can cast plex, or anything to this.... And this is a 10" screen with better speakers and camera.
was oddly fun to see the clock skip
mesmerizing @ u @
I wasn't exactly thinking of buying one of these but at least now I know what to expect if I get one for Christmas or something.
you can cast to it if your app is castable. I have the Lenovo version and love mine
Have you tested the Amazon one? Looking for reviews
I am getting one of these free of charge later on today. My broadband contract was over, and I was shopping around, I came across Vodafone doing broadband for £23, but the next day they started advertising the Google Home Nest Max promotion, which was £28 a month instead of £23. I cancelled my original order so that I could get this, as it still works out a hell of a lot cheaper than the £40 that my old provider wanted to charge me. You have to watch a lot of adverts on a computer when you watch any youtube content, so pretty much you cannot really complain about them showing you adverts on this device. If you want to avoid the adverts then pay for youtube premium.
This is exactly what I was looking for, a real review, not a stupid open box or someone that is always all excited and hyped for no reason. Thank you for helping with my decision. I was looking for a stationary unit that would help on the kitchen and on day to day stuff, that we could also use to check teachers emails, watch UA-cam recipes that many times has information on the notes and other day to day stuff but without having to hunt down the tablet. The Nest hub sure is not it.
I have a google nest hub (2 Genaration) it workd better than this for sure
My wife and I saw the ad at 0:35 and we were totally cracking up....because my wife and I are like that too. She said she would have the same responses as wifeysauce..."why?" lol
Completely agree with your 2 main issues. The lack of abity to tweak a search manually by text in UA-cam is so painful and the lack of Netflix blows. Other than that it's OK. The duo calling is pretty good. Gestures are basic but good. Sound is good. In hindsight a docked tab with Bluetooth speaker is better but doesn't look as good
The ad for the dual system in the Phantex case: How do you toggle between them with 1 keyboard and monitor and can you transfer files? One use case is a Nvidia equipped side can be used to edit video but the other side can then take the 4K video and transcode the video to lower resolutions for uploading.
Thanks for the video. I have Goggle and Weemo Home devices and was considering this device, but now I'll wait another year to see if they can get it correct before spending the money.
11:38 nicely timed meme shirt you got there I'll take 2 for the number of hours I wait for windows update to finish
Generous
thank you so much for clear stuff !
@bitwit . I use the google home max, and the google home mini exclusively with google products, my house is surrounded by nest cameras And products and the max works flawlessly with them all. “Hey google show me the front yard” goes right to it instantly. thermostat is great. Google duo is awesome to video chat with the family. And the camera itself being nest adds and extra security. I feel that this $230 was well worth the price for the features it does have
So, what did you buy, very helpful
Thanks for this. I wanted to get this for UA-cam as well and you've showed that it doesn't work properly. And you're right...the video didn't take off. I've searched for "Google nest hub" a number of times and yours never popped up.
Thank you SOOO MUCH! I've been looking at this device for a while and I've been trying to really understand it's benefit but never seem to really find one but this video definitely makes me stick to my tablet. Very disappointing from google.
Glad I watched this video. I was contemplating buying one. I'll stick with my phone or tablet instead. As always, great videos Kyle.
Glad I watched this video. Got mine for a 🎁 gift . It's okay in the casting. But the device do have a 👂 hearing problems.and sometimes it won't reponse to what you asked for
Thanks this is good. Now I know what not to get. There is a certain expectation... You are right.
Search from your phone and send the video to hub. It's instantaneous. A no brainer.
I got the regular Nest Hub for my moms for Mother's Day because my pops passed away this February and I set it up to display his photos of him and her from his Google Photo and her Google Photo account and she loves it. She doesn't need a camera she barely knows how to work video chat in her phone.
I've needed a case like that holy shit thank you
So far im loving this device. I don't have a tablet and just use my phone to browse or my PC. Also to be fair its my first time having a smart speaker. So im enjoying using it in my vanity area where i can just talk to it to play music and cast any youtube vids while im getting ready. There was also this time where i coudnt find my phone and i asked it wher it was and it rang my phone. haha maybe its just the smart assistant thats making me like it alot. Im thinking of buying multiple Hubs and spreading it around the house so i can blast synced music all over the house while im doing chores.
3:30 which galaxy tab a do you have?
good review, thankyou
Does it have 'full' Chromecast built in? So I could even mirror my Pixel screen?
I got a Nest Hub Max on Black Friday and don't regret purchasing it. With that said, I do agree 100% with what you said in this video. I am just fortunate it works with every single device I have linked it to, my main gripe is that it does not let you use Google Hangouts and a few other video call services. It's like they are trying to force you to use Google Duo.... smh.
This is a Real world Review from someone that's actually bought it for themselves and found it Lacking in what it was Advertised as!! Love this kind of "not your everyday tech Item" Review!!
Except he got heaps wrong and gave up without working out how to use it properly and also didn't even research what you CAN use them for.
6:39 Do we have Lofi squad here
I’d purchased the entire Alexa system for Black Friday on a massive deal. The Echo Show 8, Alarm system, Wyze camera, 3 dots for each room and Fire Stick 4K. For a second I thought I’d made a mistake because I heavily use Google Calendar and not much YT videos were expressing why NOT to get it. I’m so glad I watched this video, I saved hundreds. Everything you mentioned would drive me crazy. I love UA-cam cooking videos but If I have to cast it and drain my battery than what’s the point?
Thanks for the heads up mate.
Saw my boy Googa in Kyle’s video? Sick 😎
Thank gawd someone did an honest & open discussion about this. I'm a google fanboy but those deficiencies you pointed out (and rarely seem to enter the 'influencer's reviews') really don't make it worthwhile compared to the functionality of an android tablet.
So if you buy a nest camera for inside it's about $170. This unit can be used as a nest cam and it works really well. So the fact that you're getting two for one is really nice. I cast UA-cam TV to this device all the time in the kitchen and it's great great audio great video. With all that being said I feel like it's a great value.
So what other do you recommend since you were not sold on the Hub Max
If I came to your house, that is the last thing I would look at and go "oooh, I want one"
Thanks, you just saved me some money. My clock radio has finally bitten the dust, & FM reception where I live was flakey AF. So I was wondering if these would work as an alarm clock & wake me playing Tunein radio stations using my Wi-Fi for better sound? I guess not? Seeing hamstrung this thing is.
Hay Kyle, out of curiosity, how do you like your galaxy tab a?
I have the nest door bell and nest cameras and when someone rings on the doorbell, it will automatically show the doorbell camera feed on my nest hub which i think is cool. I do wish they would come out with a 1080p version soon.
So which other screen hud do you recommend ?????
3:30 Nexus 7, surprised it's still running, was a great tablet for the time though.
Just replaced mine with an ipad mini 5. It was still doing a decent job just didn't have the best wifi anymore and 16GB was getting too small for me.
The case promo looks like you’d be able to use a riser cable to add a second vertically-mounted GPU in the case...is that possible?
Ty!...very helpful
@bitwit you can load up disney+ and all sorts of apps and cast it to the screen. Wife watches movies on it that way.
Google unequivocally deserves the 'How TF Did This Sham of a Company Ever Succeed?' award.
Google+
UA-cam on ANYTHING Android
Hangouts
This thing
Etc etc etc
sooo, it's more like Messed Hub Max :D
You can schedule a meeting faster by giving the entire instruction all at once. Great info though, I’ve never tried to use my google home hub like you do. The best feature is seeing all my gold photos showing up as I take pics. Next best is seeing reminders and smarthome stuff
@bitwit, you activated my Google assistant!
Great video. You help me with the desicion
Dude, I had to pause at 7m for this...
Seriously you want to search youtube on the thing?
You carry a phone right? "Cast to kitchen display".
However you are right the recipe implementation and no method to look something like that up on a phone and send it to the screen is a definite deal breaker. Our smaller display sucks for that reason.
Is the half-ish priced non-camera model a better value? Even with the same neutered YT.
Thanks...Glad I watched this. I almost pulled the trigger on it. I have a 1st gen and 2nd gen Echo Show. The 1st gen died. I thought I'd replace it with the Hub Max. Think I'll stick with Amazon. I have 60+ Amazon or alexa enabled devices, might as well stick to that ecosystem I guess.
If you could get the new Google Assistant Ambient mode on your Tab then you could gain some of the function that the Hub has when it's just waiting to be used.
You can cast to the google nest from your phone or tablet, close the UA-cam app on the phone, and it will continue to play on the google nest. That way both of your devices are not tied up. A work around for not having a keyboard on the nest hub.
Can you tell me how to cast zoom to the hub ? I dont know how to get casting apps to work and cant find the cast option in zoom
I can't help but feel that the problem is that your expectations were a bit high going into this, Kyle. I have a Nest Hub and it works pretty dang good at nearly everything it does. You have to keep in mind that this isn't just a stationary tablet, it's a passive device. Think of it like a Google Home and a Chromecast merged into one single device. You can use your voice to pull up a UA-cam video -just like you could if you had a separate Google Home and Chromecast- but the best UI experience is always going to be to pull it up through your phone/tablet and cast it to the Nest Hub. If you need more interaction (like/dislike, comments, etc) with a particular video, then that's what your phone and tablet are for. This thing is designed for someone who has flour stuck to their fingers and wants to set/pause timers, run a quick Google search, turn on/off lights, check who's at the front door, set the thermostat, etc. If you want to play a video tutorial of how to make glazed ham, then you're probably going to search through videos on your phone to find the one you want before you get to the point where your hands are covered in food/grease/etc and will cast it to the hub before you start cooking (though I do agree that searching for videos via voice and touch input could be improved). Also, I subscribe to UA-cam Premium, so I NEVER see ads on my Nest Hub. Also, the reason you couldn't pull up your Wyze cam on it is because the Wyze cloud service sucks ass and you have to go into the Google Home app on your phone and disconnect and log back into the service to make it work (I have to do this about once or twice every couple months). The Nest Hello and the Logitech Circle cams always pull up perfectly, on the other hand, so it doesn't seem to be a Google issue but rather a device manufacturer issue. Personally, I agree that the Nest Hub Max is overpriced for what it is and would recommend getting the smaller Nest Home Hub instead for a fraction of the cost, seeing as the speaker isn't really that bad, I have no need for a built in camera, and the screen isn't that much smaller. But the bottom line is that I already knew what to expect from my Nest Hub before I even got it home because I always research everything I buy before buying it. I guess for the layperson who sees it on the shelf at Home Depot and says "ooh shiny" and brings it home will probably have a less pleasant experience if they think what they are buying is a kitchen tablet rather than a smart assistant that has a built-in display.
What do you use instead?
Thanks for making this video. I was considering getting one of these or the smaller version, and now I know it is not what I would want. Like you I would want it to do much more for the price. It seems like this is something that really needs to mature before it could be considered of "Max"imum value to the consumer. I am surprised they would make something this weak, but perhaps they don't want to mess with tablet sales.
Considering Kyle f**led up massively, got heaps wrong and they can do even more now, hope you did your own research 😂
was that phone a samsung galaxy s10 or s10+ when you screen casted to the google hub
Possible video on a zeitmatic home DIY in the future?
Any way to install or flash a more generalized version of Android to it?
Soo which one do u recommend?
thank you for the video, i thought it was a tablet with a speaker, this essentially makes this a no buy for me.
Heya, great vid mate, have a nice day and greetings from Germany🇩🇪
Good review you saved people money,i came here to watch a review because BT emailed me and offered the thing to me half price £40 with a code as a customer(was £80 RRP BT say) we have 2 Android tablets and very good bluetooth speaker although i connect through mini headphone jack and longish cable,never really use bluetooth in doors as my speaker is small i just move it to phone,Tablet or whatever other device will connect to my little speaker:)
omg, we have so many of the same videos suggested to us and you listen to lofi hip hop too?! lol
Thank you for helping me make the right decision! I definitely agree with your points (as much as i love google and youtube)
I have the same problem. I brought it for wifey. I didn't think about having a tablet in my kitchen. Am Gona return mine.. 👍👍👍