@@leelo4717 Any ideas, what you suggest instead? I disagree, your voice has a equal potential impact as any other voice. How you voice it is up to you. (votes, discussion in YT comments, ...) So you yourself might not have the impact to change society massively, but all the "you's" will add up to a force that can change the political landscape. Any political system only works cause people believe in it. So yes you could describe it as an illusory democracy, but that doesn't change the impact of it on your lives. There are many parts of society that are just "illusions", but it's a way to cope with reality and (hopefully) build wellbeing. Hope this example works: Let's take the concept of owning things as a example. We as a society believe in it, but can you tell me how to convince me that the money you got is really yours and i can't just take it? I could just answer, "no your opinion doesn't have a impact, since it's not something you have power over" and just take it and hurt you. This is the same type of argument that you gave me, and as you can see it's impossible to live this way with other people. (unless you're sociopathic) => We need a common system of believes, where the impact of your own actions is part of it Feel free to convince me otherwise, since it could lead to a interesting discussion! :)
@@barrymckockiner8737 He's now deleting my comments on this video laying out all the evidence of Musk being a free speech hypocrite who censors people he doesn't like on Twitter. Oh the irony...
@@pasi123567 That's correct, but they did a recent study in Germany on who they'd prefer to vote for and it's extremely different here (ARD-DeutschlandTREND/infratest dimap, 31.Oktober 2024): 74% Kamala 11% Trump 11% Neither So from your perspective it's maybe normal, but it's wild to see it from my perspective since i (and most Germans) fundamentally disagree with a lot of his behavior and plans.
@@plompudu2529 Simply because all the media reports in Germany is critical to Trump. There is no mainstream media with any positive news ever when it comes to Trump. And well most people who vote, are mostly older people who will only watch TV anyway so if you only hear critical things from one candidate, obviously you will also not agree with them.
@@pasi123567 Sure, the media representation has a massive impact on our perception, but the main Issue is that most of his international behavior puts our wellbeing and ethical systems at risk, which is obviously bad from my point of view. There is a massive Bias on both side, so can you tell me positive things that are planned/happening cause of trump in Germany? Our Main concerns are currently (based on my own perception) Russian/Ukraine, Inflation/Financial Situation, Refugees and the risk of destruction of our democratic system cause of populism. Trump has a massive impact on all 4 things and if he does what he said, we'll have a real bad time here potentially. (based on my perception of his media representation) He's a risk of escalating the war, which puts Germany at a very high risk of being the next "big" target for Putin. (Germany has American launch pads for Rockets that can hit Russia, i think potentially atomic if America wants) He's not interested in stopping climate change, which will lead to the biggest amount of refugees ever recorded, which we simply can't manage right now. We're already unable to manage all the current refugees at the basic level described in our Grundgesetz (main Laws, that our society it build on), let alone the up to 140 Million till 2050... (i know they'd have to be distributed and don't all end up in Germany, but i hope you get the point i try to make) I suspect that his politics will also have a negative impact on our wealth/wellbeing. (I think this is the main point, where you can argue against my perception) And last point is that he's been the catalyst to build a discussion culture that's based on populism, which supported anti-democratic parties in our country that actively try to destroy Democracy. If he's elected fully democratically i can still say that it's a bad idea, but i can't argue against the will of your society. I will only argue against it if he puts my main system of believes at risk (Grundgesetz, being is good, ...), which is possible if he destroys the democratic system. (I tolerate everything that isn't risking tolerance itself) It'd be great if you can convince me that he's good for me/us!
@@plompudu2529 You said it yourself, Trump wants to reduce international relations and of course that's bad for the EU, but the original comment was talking about him not able to understand how you can even vote for him. Simply if you live in the USA less money to outside sources means better wealth. Might not be good for the world but good for those people. And when it comes to war, we will see. Trump was always very good when it came to deescalation of wars. We will see about that. Also in the US there are only 2 parties to choose from basically and most already vote one way or another. Most people in Gerrmany vote CSU and don't change that with time much either. Both parties in the US already are close to 50% each and that won't change much, plus more and more people vote right leaning throughout the western world in recent times so of course Trump will gain followers. But some of your points make no sense. Climate change won't increase the amount of refugees much, that makes little to no sense. It's not like the world will heat up drastically in the next 100 years. So understanding why trends go towards trump and right leaning parties in general make total sense when we see more extreme views pushed on people in a very shot period of time. It's a pushback movement for the most part, less on agreeing with everything those parties stand for.
@@sharuraudio "Is there anyone in the world who is a bigger hypocrite on free speech than Elon Musk? I say this as someone who wishes Elon Musk actually cared about free speech. In my opinion, social media companies censor their users too much. The myriad restrictive rules often end up backfiring on those who push for them. The suspension process is often opaque and arbitrary. Ultimately, a public square filled with frank and free exchange of competing views - one that explicitly tilts in favor of allowing more speech on the edges than it bans - is a good thing. But that’s not what Musk, the self-proclaimed “free speech absolutist”, has created. He’s built a system that is the exact opposite of what he espouses, more arbitrary and more opaque than the old Twitter he relentlessly criticized - or Facebook or Instagram or any other social media platform, for that matter. And he uses his power to retaliate against his critics more than anyone this side of Donald Trump. The latest example happened earlier this week when a group of leftwing journalists and commentators, including the Intercept’s excellent reporter Ken Klippenstein, were mysteriously suspended from Twitter (sorry, I will always refuse to call it “X”) without warning or notice as to why. The only thing all the accounts had in common was they had been critical of Israel’s war in Gaza. After a sustained outcry, their accounts were eventually restored. Musk claimed, with no proof, it was due to a spam purge which caught real accounts in it. If you want to chalk that up to coincidence, that might make sense in a vacuum. But that’s not even his worst transgression in the past six weeks. When the liberal advocacy site Media Matters published a report alleging that Musk was allowing ads to be served next to hate speech, Musk didn’t just castigate them on his own platform, he sued them. It’s also not the first time Musk has sued an advocacy organization in the past year. Apparently, criticizing him is OK - “the point of freedom of speech is allowing those whose views you disagree with to express those views,” he said this week - unless you also send the criticism to potential ad buyers. What makes matters worse is that some Republican state attorneys general - perhaps seeking favor in order to later fill their campaign coffers from the richest man in the world - are trying to piggyback on Musk’s enemy of the week. Texas attorney general Ken Paxton opened an “investigation” into Media Matters and the Missouri attorney general is following suit. You don’t need to be a fan of Media Matters to see how this would be incredibly chilling if the shoe was on the other foot. Imagine if George Soros attempted to bankrupt every rightwing website that accused him of being behind various leftwing plots, as those sites do on almost a daily basis. The examples of Musk’s hypocrisy are so frequent, it’s hard to keep track of them all. Musk was once caught taking advice from rightwing online friends about which leftwing accounts to ban next. At times, it seems he’s purposefully throttled links to news sites he doesn’t like. According to former Twitter employers, in the early days of his ownership Musk did a 180 on his supposed principles when faced with pressure from advertisers, going from a leave-everything-up stance to a take-everything-down one. The most egregious episode was the controversy over @ElonJet, an account that tracked Musk’s private plane. First Musk claimed he would allow it. Then he rebranded the private jet data - which has been publicly available for decades for all planes - as “assassination coordinates” the minute he felt remotely unsafe. Then he suspended with no warning any journalist who had tweeted about the account. While his content moderation decisions get the most attention, what he has done behind the scenes is arguably worse. He gutted Twitter’s stellar legal department, which regularly stuck up for users’ actual free speech rights in court and attempted to protect their anonymity when powerful entities would sue to expose them. And then, after Musk’s first six months at the helm, Twitter went from challenging a good number of legal orders against its users to complying with 100% of them! Musk’s gigantic business interests in China means he has no interest in the free speech rights (or lack thereof) of the Chinese people. He refuses to weigh in on any of the many controversies of the largest autocracy in the world, which has total authoritarian control over its internet. It’s extremely likely that free-expression advocates would genuinely welcome his voice, but since - again - he doesn’t actually care about free speech, no one is holding their breath. Of course, this was all entirely predictable. At his own companies, Musk forces employees to sign restrictive non-disparagement agreements. He has tried to destroy whistleblowers. Tesla even once reportedly tried to get its customers to sign NDAs to get their cars repaired. There is no indication his professed principles are genuine. Imagine Musk’s professed love for free speech wasn’t entirely fake. As the wealthiest person in the world, he could have huge leverage. He could create a transparent, robust appeals process for those who allegedly break the rules and get suspended. He could employ a huge legal team to fight any and every government order for censorship around the world, while protecting the anonymity of his users against those who sue. If the byproduct of principled decisions in favor of free expression also meant that some rightwing assholes and trolls were let back on the service, well then, maybe that’s a good trade. Instead, Musk has taken what could have been a strong strategy and principle for him - as it is for real advocates for free expression - and turned it into a snake-oil salesman’s marketing scheme." - Trevor Timm, executive director of the Freedom of the Press Foundation
Sharur is like a Donald Trump in audiophile community.We need to make audiophile community great again!!!No more xHBB IEM’s no more painting nails no more meta tuning by Cringeackle!!
just the stock market, and quite likely just temporarily. the economy, if this has anything to do with the livelihood of the average person, has not improved yet. it also didn't improve during trump's last presidency.
Hey man, thanks for letting me know you've been got. I might not know much, but it's beautiful in a tragic way to have a litmus test of sanity for a person you barely know. The biggest I told you so coming soon. People will die without socialised medical care, people with your skin colour will be marginalised, peoples quality of life will go down dramatically with tarrifs. You've said nothing of substance in this entire video, not one thing that you're looking forward to in this presidency or a particular of how things will change. You've been had, got, brainwashed. You talk of soft subjects, you talk of interactions you have with your friends and for some reason who is president will allow the private conversation you have with your friends to be validated? Like how does Trump being president help with your free speach with your loser friends in your private discord. It doesn't. Get got, and cope hard when the I told you so comes.
@@sharuraudio you realise, if this sort of attitude keeps up, you're just going to be a brown person in America to them. You think they will think your on their side? Haha that's cute. They will call you the N word just for fun, even if it isn't remotely true. This is the edgy life you wanted I guess.
@@sharuraudio it's so cute you think a guy with your skin colour is going to be accepted by these people. Get got, cope hard when the I told you so comes.
@@sharuraudio It's cute you think someone with your pigmentation is going to have a good time, if this sort of attitude keeps up in America. Get got, cope hard when the I told you so comes.
Dunning-Kruger effect in full force.
cope
Imagine actually believing that voting ever made a single difference.
L take, if no one would vote you can just go to a dictatorship or similar systems where the Individual isn't the main force of political change...
@plompudu2529 I don't know what the answer is, but voting in an illusory democracy isn't it.
@@leelo4717 Any ideas, what you suggest instead?
I disagree, your voice has a equal potential impact as any other voice. How you voice it is up to you. (votes, discussion in YT comments, ...)
So you yourself might not have the impact to change society massively, but all the "you's" will add up to a force that can change the political landscape.
Any political system only works cause people believe in it. So yes you could describe it as an illusory democracy, but that doesn't change the impact of it on your lives.
There are many parts of society that are just "illusions", but it's a way to cope with reality and (hopefully) build wellbeing.
Hope this example works:
Let's take the concept of owning things as a example. We as a society believe in it, but can you tell me how to convince me that the money you got is really yours and i can't just take it?
I could just answer, "no your opinion doesn't have a impact, since it's not something you have power over" and just take it and hurt you.
This is the same type of argument that you gave me, and as you can see it's impossible to live this way with other people. (unless you're sociopathic)
=> We need a common system of believes, where the impact of your own actions is part of it
Feel free to convince me otherwise, since it could lead to a interesting discussion! :)
@@plompudu2529
Are YOU a dictator?
@@ReverendDr.Thomas How did you get to asking me that question??
I only dictate my own life and the behavior i have towards other people.
Why do you behave like an average reddit mod on discord if you are so pro free speech?
My Discord has free speech to those who are qualified
I heard supernova. Banger
@@sharuraudio so not free speech, got it
@@barrymckockiner8737 He's now deleting my comments on this video laying out all the evidence of Musk being a free speech hypocrite who censors people he doesn't like on Twitter. Oh the irony...
Tim walz dialogue right there
I'm not American but this feels like a dare, no-one would willingly vote for trump right?
Literally more than half the country does bro
@@pasi123567 That's correct, but they did a recent study in Germany on who they'd prefer to vote for and it's extremely different here (ARD-DeutschlandTREND/infratest dimap, 31.Oktober 2024):
74% Kamala
11% Trump
11% Neither
So from your perspective it's maybe normal, but it's wild to see it from my perspective since i (and most Germans) fundamentally disagree with a lot of his behavior and plans.
@@plompudu2529 Simply because all the media reports in Germany is critical to Trump. There is no mainstream media with any positive news ever when it comes to Trump. And well most people who vote, are mostly older people who will only watch TV anyway so if you only hear critical things from one candidate, obviously you will also not agree with them.
@@pasi123567 Sure, the media representation has a massive impact on our perception, but the main Issue is that most of his international behavior puts our wellbeing and ethical systems at risk, which is obviously bad from my point of view. There is a massive Bias on both side, so can you tell me positive things that are planned/happening cause of trump in Germany?
Our Main concerns are currently (based on my own perception) Russian/Ukraine, Inflation/Financial Situation, Refugees and the risk of destruction of our democratic system cause of populism. Trump has a massive impact on all 4 things and if he does what he said, we'll have a real bad time here potentially. (based on my perception of his media representation)
He's a risk of escalating the war, which puts Germany at a very high risk of being the next "big" target for Putin. (Germany has American launch pads for Rockets that can hit Russia, i think potentially atomic if America wants)
He's not interested in stopping climate change, which will lead to the biggest amount of refugees ever recorded, which we simply can't manage right now. We're already unable to manage all the current refugees at the basic level described in our Grundgesetz (main Laws, that our society it build on), let alone the up to 140 Million till 2050... (i know they'd have to be distributed and don't all end up in Germany, but i hope you get the point i try to make)
I suspect that his politics will also have a negative impact on our wealth/wellbeing. (I think this is the main point, where you can argue against my perception)
And last point is that he's been the catalyst to build a discussion culture that's based on populism, which supported anti-democratic parties in our country that actively try to destroy Democracy.
If he's elected fully democratically i can still say that it's a bad idea, but i can't argue against the will of your society.
I will only argue against it if he puts my main system of believes at risk (Grundgesetz, being is good, ...), which is possible if he destroys the democratic system. (I tolerate everything that isn't risking tolerance itself)
It'd be great if you can convince me that he's good for me/us!
@@plompudu2529 You said it yourself, Trump wants to reduce international relations and of course that's bad for the EU, but the original comment was talking about him not able to understand how you can even vote for him. Simply if you live in the USA less money to outside sources means better wealth. Might not be good for the world but good for those people. And when it comes to war, we will see. Trump was always very good when it came to deescalation of wars. We will see about that.
Also in the US there are only 2 parties to choose from basically and most already vote one way or another. Most people in Gerrmany vote CSU and don't change that with time much either. Both parties in the US already are close to 50% each and that won't change much, plus more and more people vote right leaning throughout the western world in recent times so of course Trump will gain followers.
But some of your points make no sense. Climate change won't increase the amount of refugees much, that makes little to no sense. It's not like the world will heat up drastically in the next 100 years.
So understanding why trends go towards trump and right leaning parties in general make total sense when we see more extreme views pushed on people in a very shot period of time. It's a pushback movement for the most part, less on agreeing with everything those parties stand for.
BASED
Sharur is the Trump of the audio community (unfathomably based)
Let's not forget RFK, Vivek and Tulsi as well.
Based Sharur as usual
sharur have u pulled any abg there at stanford?
Good for you bro🎉🎉🎉❤from another ‘minority’ I’m over the leftist bullshit
I need to make a call to ICE
Liberals are so incredibly attached to their emotions
You mean as opposed to right wingers? lol People in general are.
And he literally made a video about how much of a victim he is because he supports Trump. I don't know who's less emotional than Trump supporters.
As opposed to literally anyone?
washed
cope
@@sharuraudio
"Is there anyone in the world who is a bigger hypocrite on free speech than Elon Musk?
I say this as someone who wishes Elon Musk actually cared about free speech. In my opinion, social media companies censor their users too much. The myriad restrictive rules often end up backfiring on those who push for them. The suspension process is often opaque and arbitrary. Ultimately, a public square filled with frank and free exchange of competing views - one that explicitly tilts in favor of allowing more speech on the edges than it bans - is a good thing.
But that’s not what Musk, the self-proclaimed “free speech absolutist”, has created. He’s built a system that is the exact opposite of what he espouses, more arbitrary and more opaque than the old Twitter he relentlessly criticized - or Facebook or Instagram or any other social media platform, for that matter. And he uses his power to retaliate against his critics more than anyone this side of Donald Trump.
The latest example happened earlier this week when a group of leftwing journalists and commentators, including the Intercept’s excellent reporter Ken Klippenstein, were mysteriously suspended from Twitter (sorry, I will always refuse to call it “X”) without warning or notice as to why. The only thing all the accounts had in common was they had been critical of Israel’s war in Gaza.
After a sustained outcry, their accounts were eventually restored. Musk claimed, with no proof, it was due to a spam purge which caught real accounts in it. If you want to chalk that up to coincidence, that might make sense in a vacuum. But that’s not even his worst transgression in the past six weeks.
When the liberal advocacy site Media Matters published a report alleging that Musk was allowing ads to be served next to hate speech, Musk didn’t just castigate them on his own platform, he sued them. It’s also not the first time Musk has sued an advocacy organization in the past year. Apparently, criticizing him is OK - “the point of freedom of speech is allowing those whose views you disagree with to express those views,” he said this week - unless you also send the criticism to potential ad buyers.
What makes matters worse is that some Republican state attorneys general - perhaps seeking favor in order to later fill their campaign coffers from the richest man in the world - are trying to piggyback on Musk’s enemy of the week. Texas attorney general Ken Paxton opened an “investigation” into Media Matters and the Missouri attorney general is following suit.
You don’t need to be a fan of Media Matters to see how this would be incredibly chilling if the shoe was on the other foot. Imagine if George Soros attempted to bankrupt every rightwing website that accused him of being behind various leftwing plots, as those sites do on almost a daily basis.
The examples of Musk’s hypocrisy are so frequent, it’s hard to keep track of them all. Musk was once caught taking advice from rightwing online friends about which leftwing accounts to ban next. At times, it seems he’s purposefully throttled links to news sites he doesn’t like. According to former Twitter employers, in the early days of his ownership Musk did a 180 on his supposed principles when faced with pressure from advertisers, going from a leave-everything-up stance to a take-everything-down one.
The most egregious episode was the controversy over @ElonJet, an account that tracked Musk’s private plane. First Musk claimed he would allow it. Then he rebranded the private jet data - which has been publicly available for decades for all planes - as “assassination coordinates” the minute he felt remotely unsafe. Then he suspended with no warning any journalist who had tweeted about the account.
While his content moderation decisions get the most attention, what he has done behind the scenes is arguably worse. He gutted Twitter’s stellar legal department, which regularly stuck up for users’ actual free speech rights in court and attempted to protect their anonymity when powerful entities would sue to expose them. And then, after Musk’s first six months at the helm, Twitter went from challenging a good number of legal orders against its users to complying with 100% of them!
Musk’s gigantic business interests in China means he has no interest in the free speech rights (or lack thereof) of the Chinese people. He refuses to weigh in on any of the many controversies of the largest autocracy in the world, which has total authoritarian control over its internet. It’s extremely likely that free-expression advocates would genuinely welcome his voice, but since - again - he doesn’t actually care about free speech, no one is holding their breath.
Of course, this was all entirely predictable. At his own companies, Musk forces employees to sign restrictive non-disparagement agreements. He has tried to destroy whistleblowers. Tesla even once reportedly tried to get its customers to sign NDAs to get their cars repaired. There is no indication his professed principles are genuine.
Imagine Musk’s professed love for free speech wasn’t entirely fake. As the wealthiest person in the world, he could have huge leverage. He could create a transparent, robust appeals process for those who allegedly break the rules and get suspended. He could employ a huge legal team to fight any and every government order for censorship around the world, while protecting the anonymity of his users against those who sue. If the byproduct of principled decisions in favor of free expression also meant that some rightwing assholes and trolls were let back on the service, well then, maybe that’s a good trade.
Instead, Musk has taken what could have been a strong strategy and principle for him - as it is for real advocates for free expression - and turned it into a snake-oil salesman’s marketing scheme."
- Trevor Timm, executive director of the Freedom of the Press Foundation
Get TRUMPED
_insert audio related pun here_
Bro needed the kpop for moral support, couldnt agree more with you though, disagreements need to happen and no voice should be silenced
Sharur is like a Donald Trump in audiophile community.We need to make audiophile community great again!!!No more xHBB IEM’s no more painting nails no more meta tuning by Cringeackle!!
Lock em up!
zoom zoom zoom supernova cant stop hyper
Biden is inevitable
how to join the friend group?
be an expert at something
America dodged a bullet as did Trump
I just have one thing to say… huh?
Grow a beard
Comeback of sharur? Also unblock me and refriend me curry bot
susususupernova
Trump did wonders for the stock market and the economy
just the stock market, and quite likely just temporarily. the economy, if this has anything to do with the livelihood of the average person, has not improved yet. it also didn't improve during trump's last presidency.
@haomingli6175 if the average person had stocks their economy would increase.
Skill issue
@@dante19890 too volatile. too risky for the average person.
Yeah, baby freedom 🦅🦅🦅🦅🦅
u look a lot happier here than ur other vids 😊
Cool
Cool .
Bro's next video is in sri lanka 😂
LOL
who cares? lmao
i voted for biden as a non-american cuz it's funny as fuck
it's never joever
haircut now
Free Palestine
SHABBAT SHALOM! 🕎
HAPPY SABBATH! ✡️
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Abki bar trump sarkar. 🫡
How is voting for Trump being edgy???
It’s pretty obvious that more people agreed with Trump than with Harris right?
it should be
edgy among people who hold college degrees, edgy in his own university, edgy in the state of that university
Bro is already out of content
Hey man, thanks for letting me know you've been got. I might not know much, but it's beautiful in a tragic way to have a litmus test of sanity for a person you barely know. The biggest I told you so coming soon. People will die without socialised medical care, people with your skin colour will be marginalised, peoples quality of life will go down dramatically with tarrifs. You've said nothing of substance in this entire video, not one thing that you're looking forward to in this presidency or a particular of how things will change. You've been had, got, brainwashed. You talk of soft subjects, you talk of interactions you have with your friends and for some reason who is president will allow the private conversation you have with your friends to be validated? Like how does Trump being president help with your free speach with your loser friends in your private discord. It doesn't. Get got, and cope hard when the I told you so comes.
liberal rage. this will be the best presidency ever.
@@sharuraudio you'll be there with us, you think they'll see you as conservative in a few years? Haha, you'll just be brown to them.
@@sharuraudio you realise, if this sort of attitude keeps up, you're just going to be a brown person in America to them. You think they will think your on their side? Haha that's cute. They will call you the N word just for fun, even if it isn't remotely true. This is the edgy life you wanted I guess.
@@sharuraudio it's so cute you think a guy with your skin colour is going to be accepted by these people. Get got, cope hard when the I told you so comes.
@@sharuraudio It's cute you think someone with your pigmentation is going to have a good time, if this sort of attitude keeps up in America. Get got, cope hard when the I told you so comes.
I agreed with you 👊🇺🇲