Patreon (if ur interested ofc): patreon.com/nutsa For the record I don’t sound dead in the announcement part of the vid cause I’m not excited, but because I had the worst case of insomnia when I had to record it so my voice was just *not* operating xD But anyway I’m surprisingly proud of this video..it should’ve been a lot more rough than usual, which it is in some sense, but it turned out pretty cool and I’m so happy about it. I REALLY hope algorithm will be on my side on this one, it really has been a tough month.
"Bob the sequel" got me. A comedic and accurate summary of their dissent. When looking at Pixar, I believe Bob Senior got involved after Cars 2 in 2012, what do you think?
Fortunately people still give Disney money for expensive trips to their amusement parks. Bob and Disney tourists are both experiencing luxuries 99% of the world cannot, except we don't complain about them because Bob is even richer.
Bob Iger sounds like a guy who had a good garden, went out and bought some really expensive plants to add to said garden, was praised for how beautiful he made the garden....and then forgot that you have to tend to your garden regularly and that different plants needing different things not just a sprits of water now and again.
In French, there's an old adage which goes like this : ''Un jardin ne survit pas à son jardinier''. (Which roughly translates to : A garden is nothing without its original creator). Which applies perfectly to the whole Disney debacle.
@@blackosprey2219 You can foster and increase the chance of it flourishing but if your mantra is extracting value for shareholders, the chance of it becoming viable decrease exponentially. So many software houses and development studios through the years were razed to the ground trying to pump out game after game, chasing the new trend (remember the platform craze of the early 90s when clones of Super Mario World were all the rage?).
Bob Iger will be remembered forever, his name will echo throughout the ages, and his story will be taught in school textbooks for centuries to come... ...As the man who singlehandedly bankrupted (creatively and in some cases monetarily) every single great franchise, film, and piece of art so dearly loved by his own customers.
@@achaudhari101He is destroying Walt’s dream. He deserves no credit. He mostly just bought out already successful brands. He didn’t have a hand in building the brand and the success of the company.
@@achaudhari101 i mean, did he? Disney went from a pillar of american culture to the poster child for everything that can go wrong with capitalism thanks to him. He made a lot of money for a bunch of already wealthy people, at the expense of his company's long term survival.... is that really a legacy to be celebrated?
I was laughing my head off when I found out Disney was taking Iger back on as CEO in an apparent attempt to save the company. Anyone who's been paying attention should know that the current issues with Disney started under Bob Iger's reign. He's not saving ANYTHING
I think he came back to dispose of the evidence. Seems so with the current firings. He got rid of woke agenda director, the previous king killer, and if the rumors are true, the kk demon has been bottled in a magic lamp after indy 5. And yet, his contract extension by the board means he's going to have the time to burn everything down to ashes. I dont think it's his intention, just his only talent left.
@@alexhayden219 That isnt the fault of JJ, but Kathleen who change director midway and expect JJ to finish the story when the story is already ruined on the 2nd film.
That guy screaming "I f*cking hate Star Wars" nearly made me cry. That is the sound of a man who has watched something so precious and dear to him be absolutely destroyed, and all he can do is watch
I understand them. I mean, I didn't scream in a similar fashion, but I have never seen another SW property... SINCE 2019. I have never seen any of the tv shows beyond clips, I was gonna binge Mando after it completes but ended up deleting it from my downloads (D+ was not yet available in my country at the time). And every time I hear a new SW show/movie is announced, I have a knee jerk reaction to stay the fuck away. I CAN'T EVEN LOOK AT THE OG TRILOGY ANYMORE WITHOUT BEING REMINDED THAT RISE OF SKYWALKER IS THE ULTIMATE ENDING OF THE FRANCHISE. I've heard so much great stuff about Andor, but even that could not make me watch it.
Bob Iger does indeed have a legacy. He'll forever be remembered as the man who took a company once focused on innovation and creativity and turned it into a completely rapacious monstrous devourer of iconic IP and an overall shell of itself, as well as destroying most of Hollywood thanks to said company acquiring about half of it. What a legacy to have.
Bob Iger did achieve some good things early on… but it’s most likely on people like Lasseter, not Iger. Thus Iger started getting rid of them and/or bending them to his will.
Not even. Half those stories. Lion king, snow white, little mermaid, finding Nemo, all ripoffs of old stories and films from Asia and the Russian Germany area.
People like to shit on Michael Eisner, but forget he presided over Disney's most profitable period since Walt's departure. There's a reason they call Mike's tenure as CEO the "Disney Renaissance." Whenever Bob finally skulls back to whatever rock he crawled out from, his reign will be remembered as a Disney Collapse.
@@crimsondynamo615 More cynically, his positives could almost always lay at the feet of others; Roy E. Disney, John Lasseter, Stan Lee, Dave Filoni, etc.
Great video and thank you for pointing out the ridiculousness of people blaming Bob Chapek for recent Disney failures, when nearly all of these projects were approved while Bob Iger was still CEO the first time around.
I’m convinced Chapek was always meant as a fall guy: someone Iger brought in to take the blame for all his failures, while he could go on to be remembered as some kind of Disney legend.
yeah I think a lot of the blame comes understandably from Chapek’s very public, creatively bankrupt and out of touch takes on what “consumers want” from the parks and media. But like what else do you expect from billionaires who have no sense of reality and only operate under short term quarterly profits and stocks 🤷🏻♀️
Bob's biggest weakness is ego. Like Kennedy, he can't acknowledge his own mistakes, so he won't ever be able to win [back] the respect of the fans. The audience is more savvy than either of them realised, and no amount of mainstream and access media labelling fans toxic will change that.
@@achaudhari101 You don't understand how respect works then. I didn't Lucasfilm or Disney can't 'win back' fans - i.e. make something popular - I said Iger and KK won't ever be able to win back respect. But by not disagreeing with the rest of my comment, I presume you agree that Iger and KK have the inability to admit mistakes, and they did indirectly blame the fandom for the backlash or drop in profits. In which case, there's no need for you to comment further, even though I know you love to disagree.
@@weilandloveland Yeah, well Iger's concern has always been the bottom line. And he's forced to reach a conclusion, even if he's unable or incapable of actually identifying the root cause. Like many of his kind, 'investor confidence' clouds every single comment he makes.
There's an additional element to Iger's start at Disney that, on one part, should have been a warning, but on another part, seems completely comical considering how things turned out. The first is the desperate search for the next Pirates of the Caribbean, where they tried to have their own Lord of the Rings/Harry Potter with Narnia, they tried to revive Tron, they tried to make the Lone Ranger, they tried MORE Pirates movies... and it continued to fail. Tron Legacy is kind of an odd one in particular as it was written with the intention of being a new trilogy, stumbling into the same mistake Universal would with The Mummy re-remake. Granted how much of that was started by Iger is unknown, but Iger became President of Disney in 2000. There's a good chance he was moving chess pieces even back then. But the really interesting thing is that a lot of those films were also part of the motivation for getting Marvel, and later LucasFilm, in the first place: to try and appeal more to boys. Disney had the young girl market in their pocket ever since The Little Mermaid, and so they started to purchase brands like Marvel and Star Wars and make movies like Wreck-it-Ralph to make up for their demographic shortcomings. By the latter half of the 2010's, however, well... let's just say there's a lot of reasons I want to forget Ralph Breaks the Internet exists, and one of those is a clear demographic change. Granted you could open up a bigger discussion on how busted Western media is in regards to how it focuses on demographics and draws a lot of assumptions on them, when on the other hand I grew up watching Sailor Moon and enjoying it because it still had a good story despite clearly being targeted towards girls. But for the purposes of Bob Iger, it's just interesting to see that his intent to appeal more to boys got completely hijacked and now we have She-Hulk.
Three things: 1. Bob Iger isn't a businessman, he's a corporate bureaucrat; 2. The marketplace is sometimes slow to react, but it almost always punishes (usually very permanently) businesses that pump out sub-standard products and take their customers for granted; 3. Disney has being playing accounting games, which has masked they real severity of their financial issues, notably their actual free cash flows and working capital is what's driving this crisis. This last point is really critical: Disney's actual financial health (much like Enron and Lehman in their last days) is much worse than a cursory review of their annual and quarterly balance sheets might first indicate. This is why Iger is driving cost-cutting so hard: their ability to fund operations has become a real problem because lenders are starting to seriously question their asset valuations (specifically IP, franchises, studios and theme parks) based on the poor performance of nearly every segment of their business. Worse, Iger can't take the obvious step of unloading problem / damaged assets like Lucas Film, because everyone knows it would go to someone else for pennies on the dollar. Borrowing is facilitated, in no small part, by asset valuation and future revenue generation of those assets and, right now, it's pretty obvious that both near and long-term prospects for Disney are poor. So why do I say Bob Iger isn't a businessman (or a very poor one, if the moniker most be applied)? Because a businessman must care about creativity if they're to continue producing superior products that customers will buy. This is actually true in every business, no matter how mundane a business may first appear. That creativity might be in the artistry of animation, the design of an automobile, the engineering of a semiconductor, the flavor of a toothpaste, and so on. It also manifests in the work of marketers, packaging folks, new concepts and ideas, research and development and, yes, even the necessary bureaucratic processes needed to facilitate all of this efficiently in a large company. Bob Iger has respected none of these things, and the results are now obvious. A simple analogy: it's as if Iger took over Procter & Gamble, started buying all the competition while making every tooth paste taste like licorice, every shampoo, shaving cream, etc., smell like lavender, crapping out ever more identical licorice and lavender flavored products, and then blamed the customers who don't like licorice and lavender when customers complain and products sit on store shelves. Oh, and liking the taste of regular old, pre-licorice flavored Crest makes you a bad person. Say what you will about Michael Eisner, but he absolutely did know how to run a company. He invested in the creative aspects of the company, understood that the studio producing quality creative output was absolutely necessary to support the other parts of the business. He understood how to drive growth throughout Disney. He left Disney in a state where it was an absolute titan of the industry. Not that Eisner wasn't without flaws, but he'll be remembered as Disney's greatest CEO, whereas Iger will be remembered as the guy who ran the company into the ground (along with every studio and property he bought).
His buying spree was fueled by record low interest rates. With global capital drying up and now in an era of rising rates due to inflation, Disney is doomed and May eventually go bankrupt due to the debt overhang.
Which is why attacking Chapek is misguided. Only theme park folks have a point, hating him for cutting costs. Corporate America has three main groups of leaders: accountants, marketers and bureaucrats. Chapek is an accountant but when he took over and took power, he tried his hands at being a marketer by trying to find projects that made more money for him to account for but he wasn't too good at it obviously. But he tried to right the ship. Iger is just a bureaucrat who does behind the scenes deals with his relationships, selling BS buzzwords to shareholders, and is not good at creating or selling anything to customers, like a marketer (say Mike Eisner) is. Pixar and Marvel had passionate creators at the helm till Bob Iger took power away from them, right before he left. Chapek wanted to empower the marketing team again, then, Iger came back and TOOK POWER AWAY FROM THEM AGAIN to give to bureaucratic controller types again like he did right before he left! Chapek knew what he wasn't good at and tried to fix it. Iger is blind to his own weakness because he's a smug prick and Disney is PAYING for it!
I don’t know why Eisner gets such a bad reputation, he saved Disney from filing for bankruptcy and stressed the importance of creativity within the company. He had an ugly departure but not enough to justify the way people scoff about him. Frank wells and Michael Eisner were prime for Disney both in the parks and on the big screen. The Disney renaissance secured Disney’a position and ability to make award winning animated pictures.
Mike wore Mickey Mouse on his freaking ties. He cared so much about the stories and “magic” Disney was founded upon. Bob saw a money-making machine and ran it to the ground by ignoring what made it so special to the masses. He churned out mediocre stories using beloved IPs as vessels just to justify his costly acquisitions. It’s devastating.
@@Jules2439.5 More cynically, anything good Iger did was because he was being held back by others, and what we are seeing now is the true, unrestrained Iger.
@@austinreed7343 sheesh that is cynical and probably true. His recent comments have seemed so out of character, but it’s probably who he’s been all along. I wish the stories and characters we loved/grew up with weren’t collateral but alas…
Comparing Eisner to Iger without talking about Frank Wells seems like fundamentally not understanding the difference between the 2 people and how they managed Disney. Eisner Was actually awesome in terms of understanding Disney as a creative company. But he had a lot of flaws as a business man. Frank Wells was the Ying to his Yang. Before Wells dies Eisners and Wells had the company in the best place its maybe ever been. After Wells Died Eisner had to handle significantly more including things he wasn't very good at. Which lead to a few financially disastrous decisions. Mainly Euro Disney (now Disneyland Paris) and DCA. Iger was always an Empty Suit. He was brought in to make sure the financial failures that happened toward the end of the Eisner era wouldn't happen again. He never understood the company creatively and never will. Walt Disney was Largely the same way as Eisner where His brother Roy handled a lot of the business aspects of things where Walt was about the creativity of it all. What Made Eisner and Wells different from Walt and Roy is who died first. Walt died before Roy and Left a creative vacuum in the company for a long time. Wells died before Eisner and Left a Business savyy vacuum that lead to some bad business decisions that hurt the company financially. Iger is Just the business guy. so there is no creativity and the company does not care. Iger is Infinitely worse than Eisner ever was.
The deal is that Iger's whole plan was reliant on Alan Horn, who is already considered the most successful Hollywood executive of all time just for his time in WB, the run the film division, as well the nonexistent interest rates the world central banks set after 2008 and didn't raise until 2021. And while we like to give Eisner flack over that "we want money, no arts" quote he was quite the creative guy, he even considered himself as the last creative CEO in Hollywood, when LotR became too expensive to the Disney-owned Miramax to make he offered to have Disney co-producd it just to Harvey Weinstein to not give the script and just have it be shipped to New Line. Iger was the one who ruined Twin Peaks for fuck's sake.
Wasn’t Iger the head of ABC at the time Twin Peaks was initially released? Also this is probably one of the saner comments there is, as you mentioned Alan Horn - who with Barry Meyer made WB into a box office juggernaut during their time at the company.
@@mrchrisliddell It was exactly the plan. Let's be clear Chapek did himself no favors as he was absolutely horrible. But that was probably planned too. "Bring in this guy who really sucks so when I when I come back in I won't get blamed for any of the shit I got us into and People will act like I am the Hero"
After his comments on SAG and the WGA, I don’t know how anybody, even people who do like some of the lesser liked Disney projects, can even tolerate this guy. If said comments are anything to go off of, he’s straight up evil.
@@ashlyn37 For all corporations, no matter what they tell you, the end goal is and always will be profit. It's not the art, or the employees, or the culture, it's ALWAYS profit no matter the cost. Iger embodies that.
@@achaudhari101 Your point? "Wokeness" (whatever the hell that means anymore) doesn't have anything to do with people working in arts being exploited and taken advantage of, unless you're talking about studio heads mandating agendas from their writers to give off a brand image they think people will enjoy at the cost of good scripts.
@@MrRapmaster19 Actually it is since a lot of these recent failures by Disney were due to agendas by the people in Hollywood. It is as they say “cruel but necessary evil” after they abused consumers for so long with mediocre quality and writing.
This man will end up being THE most hated man in the movie world probably for many years going forward. I can see in 200 years people still using the term “don’t Igor it or your fired!” I guess his name will live on infamy, just not the way he wanted lol
Even on some channels I thought knew better, the line "Iger is back to save Disney!" was being echoed when Chapek was ousted, and I couldn't resist dropping comments telling them they were horribly mistaken... Iger has NOTHING to do with any Disney successes that I am aware of. Acquiring other intellectual property isn't an achievement if you just throw enough money at it... what you DO with those franchises is what showcases your abilities. Someone needs to convonce Iger to buy the Pokemon franchise, it would be fascinating to see that franchise stop making bank.
Yeah, it's hilarious that people complained Chapek was 'cheap', and rejoiced when Iger came back, for him to continue exactly what Chapek was doing, while also scapegoating him. Chapek was also lumbered with the pandemic fallout, not just the creative time bomb Iger left him.
Dude.... awesome video! Sorry the algorithm isn't catching for you, because you're making quality content. You can see all the hard work you put into your projects. It bleeds through the screen. All the editing research script writing etc etc. All you need is 1 video to catch fire and you're off to the races. Keep doing your thing. I'll keep being here to watch 🤘🏻
I feel bad for Bob Chapek. The guy was clearly trying to turn the company around, using the same strategy as WB's CEO David Zaslov, but he greatly underestimated how deep Disney's problems ran. While Iger will be remembered as a modern day Icarus, Chapek will be seen as the textbook example of a fallguy
I'd say there was definitely studio intervention in Marvel earlier. You can feel it in the marketing and the toyification and plots making room for newer betterer differenter characters... And also a lot of failed side projects. A LOT of failed side projects. Most of which turned into half-assed TV shows... Even when they were announced as something else. Like Inhumans.
I genuinely didn't think they could kill my interest in star wars, but they somehow did it. I fell almost entirely uninclined to keep up with anything star wars and it makes me happy to see that they are now paying for it.
Same. I used to regularly binge the whole saga but after TROS, it was years before I realized I hadn't watched them in years because I didn't care anymore. Like damn.
02:18 [ Iger ] is not a "money-hungry Capitalist"... He's a Corporatist. They're not the same. In fact, they're anathema to each other. Among the many, fundamental differences:.. Corporatists are all about acquisition and consolidation, to the point of ((if allowed to get away with it)) creating monopolies... and they're very-Very-VERY risk-averse. _Capitalists are the exact opposite. They esteem and advocate competition, especially concerning one of its symbiotic/synergistic components -- innovation.._ [ Iger and those like him, which is roughly 99% of contemporary mainstream entertainment industry ] are the consequence of America's departure from Capitalism. A departure which began decades ago.... ....What we're witnessing, not just in Disney but throughout nigh all of Hollywood is the consequence of not just Corporatism, but worse, a Corporatism blended and guided by Cultural Marxist theory... ergo, the beginning of its collapse.
Thank you! I was literally about to comment this distinction as I thought it when I heard that. Most people don't understand the difference. Most capitalists despise corporations because of how parasitic they are and how they destroy real capitalism. Corporatists are more akin to politicians than capitalists, looking out for themselves and their /power/ not the long term financial health of their business as they'll just sell companies and divisions off and buy new ones. Companies have to deliver what the consumer wants and are thus healthy and beholden to the people, corporations are not.
What's so funny is that Disney has been consistently deconstructing so many of their previous properties. If the Rey movie was a deconstruction of her, that could actually be super interesting...but they'd *never* do that.
“Deconstruction” was and always has been just an excuse to get rid of the Old and replace it with their New. And Rey IS the New it was meant to bring in all along.
Disney acquiring all these studios and IPs was much like collecting the Infinity Stones but unfortunately the power was too much and they inevitably crumbled.
@@Grubnar In Bob Igloo's book he says how he swindled George into making the deal, and obviously running the franchise into the ground, giving it a grape and sucking out it's soul didn't make him happy either.
@@kelp7060 George Lucas is no moron, he knew what he was doing. Just look up his "white slavers" comment. Now, with that having been said, I am sure Lucas had NO IDEA Disney would mis-manage what he had created THIS badly!
I find it hilarious that Disney tried so hard to push Nimona down the toilet while they already have so many projects stuck in development hell: the Darkwing Duck reboot, the threequels for National Treasure, Tron and The Princess Diaries, every Star Wars movie, a Pirates of the Caribbean movie, the live action African princess movie, Sade, which I'm convinced at this point they turned it into the live action Little Mermaid movie. And at the same time, Nimona has gotten so much critical acclaim, Disney's neverending sabotage of their animated movies is biting them in the ass with a counting number of blox office flops! It's like poetry, it rhymes! They also sabotaged every live action movie that isn't part of the brands they bought or studio they own. I mean, I'd love to see another ORIGINAL PG 13 live action franchise but they don't care. Wish I would've gotten to see Nimona in theaters. We don't see many queer leads in kids/family movies or animated movies on the big screen.
Disney needs to be run by a "Walt and Roy" duo. Like how Walt was the creative visionary while Roy was the business and money man. A perfect balance. Give too much power to one or the other and it goes out of balance. Iger is a money man running Disney which just doesn't work.
Great video! It’s a shame how far Disney has fallen, but when you’ve got Bobby Iger on board I guess that’s what’s bound to happen. It’s really funny how all the shills were cheering at his contract extension, it’s like Disney signed their own death warrant with that move. Iger stepping down was a “big-brained” move by him to avoid personal responsibility once the shit hit the fan. It was kinda brilliant actually: use the pandemic and Chapek’s refusal to do anything as an excuse for why movies bomb and park prices going up while services go down, then come back and be the knight in shining armor. Unfortunately for Bobby, more and more people are seeing past his bullshit, and after his comments on the SAG-AFTRA strikes, he’s definitely taking Eisner’s place as the CEO that brought Disney down. The downfall can’t come soon enough.
Another great video, Nutsa. You are consistently putting out some of the best content out there. Keep up the great work. Now... Bob Iger is bad but I tend to believe just how bad Micheal Eisner got and was after Frank Wells passed away was worse. Igar has done a lot stupid things but Eisner basically created Disney's main rival in animation in Dreamworks with his treatment of Katzenberg. With Eisner so much damage had been done there was a break between Eisner and Pixar chairman Steve Jobs, with Pixar abruptly abandoning its partnership with Disney. Eisner bought ABC, which has been a dragged on the company ever since, The overpriced acquisition of Fox Family(now FreeForm). The search engine GO was a disaster. Hell, Eisner misjudged Michael Ovitz, a man who was not only "the most powerful man in Hollywood" but also his friend, whom he appointed as Disney president and immediately wanted to fire. Disney under Igar has been awful but Disney under Eisner there was an actual revolt within the Broad.
You are right - There was so much revolt that Roy E Disney initiated the Save Disney campaign. Both Eisner (Being a bit of a shit head later in his career as a CEO as what you mentioned) and Iger (focusing too much on financial gains and acquiring existing properties in expense of long term creative health) have wrecked Disney in more shapes than one, but the way they did it differs. Funnily enough, Roy Disney is not exactly a saint either - he was a contributing factor in why Katzenberg (who happened to be an egoist as well) noped the fuck out to form Dreamworks with Geffen and Spielberg (hence where SKG came from).
Looking at the amount of criticism Hollywood has taken it's exposed how empty our lives are without the distraction they use to bring. You'd hope that if a movie failed it wouldn't set off people the way it does. You'd hope people would have many meaningful things going on in their lives and we'd all just move on but that's not what's happening. As Hollywood has gone to shit I have had to start looking at my life and asking what gives me meaning? I never realized how much these movies meant to me and without a steady flow of new quality entertainment I'm left to confront the void in my life and seeking to fill it with more meaningful things.
Most people don't actually care that much. The section of the public watching entertainment opinion pieces on YT and commenting about them is pretty small tbh. Most of my friends are into their work, families, sports, physical fitness etc. How well Disney is or isn't doing is pretty far down the list.
"There's a level of expectation that they have that's just unreasonable... I can't tell you why, it just is." Bob Iger 2023, when discussing why he can't pay writers a fair wage. This will be his legacy, along with all the other crap he's done
@@zogwort1522 yeah absolutely. CEO's provide no value to any company or society as a whole, and yet, they have a salary that is absolutely ridiculous and generally unreasonable. Just like landlords they are no better than parasites on society, then again even a parasite can have it's uses.
Bob Iger never left. Chapek was the CEO for no more than 6 months. The remaining 16 months Iger was in control. And now he’ll stay until the day that he dies.
Say what you will about Eisner near the end his tenure, but during his leadership he ushered in the Disney Renaissance and took the company to creative and monetary heights that hadnt been seen in years. Iger is the one who slowly drove it into the ground by buying and then immidiatly killing golden geese. Disney is no longer a brand that is synonymous with quality. Now its a joke where the entertainment is seeing it burn to the ground.
Really well made video! You’ve become a lot better with English pronunciation and comedic timing over the years. For your Patreon, it might be smart to include a little “About” section to tell people who you are and your future goals
exactly. people blame capitalism -- offering products in exchange for money -- for Disney doing this. No one wants woke stuff, that's why it's in decline. Capitalism forces companies to sell us something we wanna buy. But leftists prefer a system where we are forced to give our money for stuff we didn't ask for.
First, I want to let you know that I love your videos. I can tell you put a lot of love, time, and care into them, and it really shows. Additionally, you are very good at articulating your thoughts, making it easy to follow your ideas and understand what you want to communicate. I truly enjoy hearing your ideas and viewpoints! I Agree 100% with what you said. Towards the end, when you were talking about reputation, it got me thinking... Why haven't I seen any Star Wars or Marvel shows for over a year? Oh, it's because of the reputation they now have. This reputation is a result of their own work, and it has nothing to do with reviews or videos of other people speaking poorly about them, at least not in my case. I stopped watching their shows and movies because the quality has become incredibly poor (I mean, the last Star Wars show I watched was Obi-Wan, and what a huge disappointment that was). I simply stopped caring about them. I've always liked Indiana Jones; I've never been a huge fan, but I enjoy those movies (the three that matter). When the last movie was announced, I felt nothing, absolutely nothing. I didn't even have a sense of curiosity. I didn't watch it, and I don't think I ever will. Star Wars used to be my favorite franchise by far. When I was little, I became a fanboy of Harry Potter, but even back then, if you asked me what my favorite universe/franchise was, I would have still told you it was Star Wars. Imagine my surprise when I watched The Last Jedi, thinking that it was impossible for Star Wars to have a bad movie... and walking out of the theater feeling like a part of me had just died. The impossible became possible; a bad Star Wars movie was created, and I was unlucky enough to witness it. Now, I've heard that Lucasfilm plans to make that acolyte crap and a new movie with Rey as the protagonist, and just as you clearly stated in your video, their reputation makes me not give a damn. I KNOW they will be bad. But I also KNOW this is not Star Wars. It may bear the same name and exist in a similar universe, but this is something else. Star Wars died the day George Lucas sold his company to the devil in a mouse's disguise. The same goes for Marvel, Pixar (a company I also believed could never make a bad movie), and so on. Anyway, this company is going down the drain, and I couldn't be happier. Not because I wish them harm (I actually feel kind of sorry for all the good people I know who work there and genuinely care about art and telling good stories), but because HOPEFULLY this will bring about a change in the company and they will finally fire Kathleen Kennedy for her crimes against humanity.
@@achaudhari101 That's true, some of the things they have done are pretty good. But those are few and far between. I did watched Guardians 3 for example, but that's an exception and I watched that for James Gunn, because I still trust him. The Marvels for example, is a movie I won't watch because I feel no interest in it, like Indiana Jones. I hope the good things they do become the rule and not the exception, just like the old days.
@@achaudhari101 yeah, some of it almost reached the heights of forgettable mediocrity.... which is what the name Disney was synonymous with before Iger, right?
I have to admit, I've been pretty much the same way as far as being hugely in love with Star Wars when I was younger but feeling almost nothing for this franchise anymore like I used to since Disney took it over. On the flip side I wasn't very interested in Star Trek when I was younger, but revisiting it on Paramount+ it has grown on me to the point where I can now see why it's always had its own strong following. So I'd definitely say the pendulum for these two iconic sci-fi franchises has finally been shifting for me, which I'm sure has not been helped by Disney's own handling of Star Wars today.
Ngl im almost glad that disney is finally starting to collapse, its gonna be nice to see them have to make their way back to the top using all of the IPs they own in actually creative ways for once
Bob Iger sounds like the kind of guy who'd look at latte foam art and then drink it immediately before someone gives him the idea to take a picture of it
Can you imagine not so long ago back in 2020 we were so scared of Disney becoming a huge monopolies controlling most of our entertainment? And they're now falling under their own weight LMAO.
And thankfully, Disney is going to be trust busted and broken up in the not too distant future so that means bye bye Marvel, Lucasfilm, ABC, Pixar, etc.
Just like the man who started it all 100 years ago, Bob Iger will leave the company with a complicated legacy. The man who built a media empire to now potentially sharing a similar fate as Michael Eisner did in his final years, with the company’s reputation going down with them.
George Lucas does deserve a large portion of the blame for the destruction of Star Wars. He sold it to Disney and it was his idea that Kathleen Kennedy would run Lucasfilm.
eh, that depends a lot on how much information we simply don't have. If Lucas was lied to by people like Iger and Kennedy about what they intended to do with star wars, then no, he doesn't deserve much, if any blame If he know just how utterly fucking stupid Kennedy really was but just signed for the money anyway, then yes, he's quite guilty it all really depends on what he believed Disney intended to do with the franchise
@@petriew2018 Lucas didn't 'sign for the money'. Kennedy was someone he trusted, and Iger was someone he felt he 'owed' for help getting the Young Indy Chronicles made. His core motivation was for Star Wars to keep being made for fans at a point he was too old, and more importantly for LF to survive and therefore his company and its staff had a secure future (or hypothetically would have). LF needed a big win again, like more Star Wars, and he didn't want to spend 10 years making another trilogy. Disney also had the capability to develop a Star Wars theme park, which was also part of the decision.
Lucas didn't need to sell, they just needed to sit on the IP and let it continue printing money for them for the foreseeable future like gainax does with evangelion. Now the IP has no value and Lucas wants nothing to do with it. What a waste.
I could not be happier to see this outcome. Indie movies are coming back, hollywood monopoly with Disney at the helm is breaking and it is just about time this be broken, let the market speak.
It actually *hurts* to remember how much I *loved* the mcu. Not just liked, *loved* Being born in 2004, it was my childhood, it was my constant growing up. I remember how much I cared about the movies and more importantly, the characters. I remember SOBBING in the theaters during Endgame. I will never feel like that again, ever.
Man, there were so many people cheering when Iger was coming back to the company and I was like… really? He’s the CAUSE of all the issues Disney has and you all want him back?! Insane. Also, Bob Iger did not leave because of his contract, he was supposed to leave in 2021 and stepped down early and it was a HUGE surprise… done suspiciously close to when the COVID lockdowns occurred and the company took their first huge hit. 🤔
Bob Chapek wasn’t exactly innocent, he made horrible decisions as well. He introduced Disney genie, continued to increase park prices to the even MORE absurd levels that they’re at today, went crazy with spending on a million marvel shows, alienated his own employees in Disneys war against Ron Desantis, and was effectively flopping around accidentally making everything around him much worse lol
Can someone please explain to me why everyone kind of hates Elemental? When I saw it, I knew it wasn't perfect, but it had some cute moments. Honestly, it's been so rare for Disney to put out any film these days where romance is a focal point that I appreciated the move.
It has so far made 314 million dollars at the box office. Not a big flop, but still a huge disappointment. It seems like word of mouth keeps the movie in theatres and people still wanna go and see it. I am going to see it tomorrow as I am writing this down.
I think the Year of Failure was being set up as early as 2017. From there it was a steady cascade of quality drops across the film and park divisions. Pricing and predatory market practices were growing out of hand, and production budgets vs. quality were getting out of control. Long-established IPs were being overtly disrespected and treated like annual FIFA or CoD releases. Cap that off with clear ideological busybodying in all of its offerings and there's really no mystery to be solved.
I do not & cannot understand why you aren't a bigger channel. I swear ive been seeing your videos for at least a year and I've always thought: Editing is spot on, Scripts are funny, Timing is good, Background music is well chosen. 11/10 hope you blow up sometime soon and get the recognition you deserve.
The Infinity Saga was more of Ike Perlmutter’s brainchild than it was Kevin Feige’s By looking at how Iger demoted Ike back in 2018 and charting the progression since the start of Phase 4, this became especially clear once we started seeing Kevin Feige + Victoria Alonso being completely unchallenged. The reason I say this has everything to do with what Ike Perlmutter WAS for Marvel: the Merchandising/Toy Maker Magnate that meticulously crafted stuff as to maximize profits specifically by being a penny pincher. He’s basically the “George Lucas of Marvel Studios”, albeit not the guy completely involved with the legacy of the company
Great video. Somehow though, I have this sinking feeling that even if Bob Iger manages to completely raze Disney to the ground he won't care because he himself will still walk away a multi millionaire. That said, perhaps then we will see change; after all, who on EARTH would ever hire him again with that kind of reputation?
I love how u ignore the biggest problem, the woke crap that they shoved everything, like destroying all old heroes and producing their movies "for a modern audience"
The ridiculous thing is If the plan was to buy all the competitors, make actual good content with them, while introducing new franchises & properly paying their workers. they'd be better than fine right now but no they somehow just can't fathom making actual good content that would actually benefit them.
The Funny thing about the Infinity Saga. It almost didn’t happen. Kevin Feige threatened to leave the MCU if he wasn’t promised the ability to make more diversity focused characters and stories after the Infinity Saga ended. So the MCU we currently see, the one that has performed mediocrely, this was the Marvel he WANTED to make. The Infinity Saga might I’ve looked different if Feige was give complete autonomy. It truly was lighting in a bottle.
Disney supported woke democrat politics and the decline began. Abandoning family values and attacking society for democrat politics have killed the reputation of this once wholesome company
If they truly were in it for the money, the second their movies started selling less than stellar, they would have instantly fired Kathleen Kennedy's ass as well as everyone else and fixed it so it wasn't hot garbage.
I thought Bob Iger was a shitty CEO when I realized he left Chapek to flounder around in the pandemic but still hovered around like a vulture for Chapek's downfall Ever since then i have been hearing one bad thing after another about this guy and i cant wait for him to just be gone
Bob Iger could start to get some credibility back by cancelling the new Snow White before it embarrasses Disney...it was Disney's first feature film and a historical work of genius, Iger could get some respect by saving that before it's destroyed. But you have to realize that he *can't do it* because he actually has to destroy Snow White otherwise he'll be ostracized from the sub-billionaire progressive community who are his few friends in life. Do you think Bob Iger is going to lose his friends and take some stand against the destruction of Snow White? All his friends have a similar mindset and think like the way KK does and they're going to be highly offended if he doesn't support the destruction of Snow White. He has a herd mentality so there's no other choice for him.
Hey Nutsa, I just wanted to say I loved the video but I do have one question. When you said Disney is “Star Wars-ing Marvel” what did you mean? If anything, Disney forced the sequel trilogy to be more like Marvel with their bad jokes at inappropriate times and bumbling comic relief characters that served no narrative purpose.
Superb video. Thoroughly enjoyed this, and despite some heated arguments with friends I totally agree. The identity politics, the poor story telling, the shoddy quality of the films themselves, both in look and script, the predictability of the plots, the releases, the milking of one successful IP only to destroy its legacy. This has been a long time coming. Call me crazy, I would welcome Apple purchasing Disney, cos they are making some extremely thought provoking well made, by carefully selected films and television. On a sensible budget to boot. Do I want Apple to take over the world no. But do I want them to save some of my favourite IPs, yes yes yes.
Not sure about the business hate. George Lucas was both a creative and a savvy businessman. He merchandised the heck out of Star Wars, and he used it to build both his special effects studio and the small empire that became lucasfilm. Pixar had Steve Jobs, the Ying to John Lasseter’s Yang. But I think the point about the companies noticeably getting worse at the point at which Iger likely started to pay more attention to them is fascinating. It’s hard to appreciate someone’s legacy in the thick of things. I remember Eisner being incredibly reviled by the time he was ousted, and now we look back fondly on a lot of what he accomplished. Especially in the parks, a lot of the expanding happened under Eisner. But I think they kind of follow a similar trajectory. They accomplished a lot of things early on, some of it really good, and by the end they were not willing to hand over the reigns, even as their shortcomings were starting to show. I know Chapek was not popular, but I was curious to see what he could do. Disney has real financial issues, and Chapek was supposed to be good at that. He was a lousy politician though, and that sort of killed him in the end.
I really disagree when people talk ill of Eisner. The man made his fair share of poor decisions, especially at the end of his time and especially with the parks - But when he came on in the early 80s, Disney was in serious trouble, and it only got worse. While you can hardly say he caused the Disney Renaissance, I think that execs like him being there who had the trust to be hands off creatively was extremely important in allowing these films to take off. Eisner said in an interview once that they're committed to animation because it's the soul of the company. Compare this to Iger, who's successes early on were mostly overseeing films that had been in production for ages, or just watching an already well established production machine.
Eisner did to Disney theme parks what Iger did to Disney’s Cinema; over saturated the brand with impulsive business moves with next to no thought nor creativity behind them. Disneyland Korea was a train wreck, Disney quest was just a desperate attempt of copying chuckie cheese when that franchise was booming at the time, and he’s one the the reasons people began to precieve Disney as culty because how impulsive he was. Like Iger after a while Esnier was doing nothing with his ideas but costing them money, Not as much but he had questionable flops in during his run.
@@sideeyed7682 Again, I don't think Eisner did much good for the parks at all, but at least he did well with the movie business for the most part. I think that Iger hast failed at both.
"You can fool some of the people all of the time, and all of the people some of the time, but you can not fool all of the people all of the time" - Abraham Lincoln And this is the reason why Disney will fall.
So you generated a shitton of money and attention by carefully and precisely planning out an entire movie series ahead of its start? Haha good one, now get back to work on that random movie about the strong green guy and his competition with his strong green girlfriend. The fans will love it.
Patreon (if ur interested ofc): patreon.com/nutsa
For the record I don’t sound dead in the announcement part of the vid cause I’m not excited, but because I had the worst case of insomnia when I had to record it so my voice was just *not* operating xD
But anyway I’m surprisingly proud of this video..it should’ve been a lot more rough than usual, which it is in some sense, but it turned out pretty cool and I’m so happy about it. I REALLY hope algorithm will be on my side on this one, it really has been a tough month.
Chronology was pronounced correctly.
🤣😂🤣😂 I believe some of your mispronunciations are strategically intentional. 😂🤣😂🤣😂🤣Cha-pek! You’re the best!!!
Your channel is do underated af
when you chose to record it, woooooooo
"Bob the sequel" got me. A comedic and accurate summary of their dissent. When looking at Pixar, I believe Bob Senior got involved after Cars 2 in 2012, what do you think?
Poor Bob can only afford 29 yachts this year because of elemental
Practically homeless😢😢😢
Fortunately people still give Disney money for expensive trips to their amusement parks. Bob and Disney tourists are both experiencing luxuries 99% of the world cannot, except we don't complain about them because Bob is even richer.
Man, how on earth will he be able to financially recover from this devastating blow? Perhaps another half baked souless sequel would solve it?
It keeps the yacht builders, maintainers and sailors in business so I'm fine with it.
And this is why the writers and actors are on Strike.
Bob Iger sounds like a guy who had a good garden, went out and bought some really expensive plants to add to said garden, was praised for how beautiful he made the garden....and then forgot that you have to tend to your garden regularly and that different plants needing different things not just a sprits of water now and again.
And forgot the very expensive exotic plants weren't suited for the climate of the garden (brand).
In French, there's an old adage which goes like this : ''Un jardin ne survit pas à son jardinier''. (Which roughly translates to : A garden is nothing without its original creator). Which applies perfectly to the whole Disney debacle.
More like he bought everything so as to emulate EA and destroy every semblance of competition.
Turns out you can't just buy creative genius, huh
@@blackosprey2219 You can foster and increase the chance of it flourishing but if your mantra is extracting value for shareholders, the chance of it becoming viable decrease exponentially. So many software houses and development studios through the years were razed to the ground trying to pump out game after game, chasing the new trend (remember the platform craze of the early 90s when clones of Super Mario World were all the rage?).
I thank Sony for holding on to the Film Spiderman rights because I can only imagine what would happen if Disney got a hold on it.
FINALLY someone that agrees!
What do we do if Disney tries buy Sony tho. •_•
@@Letsjustnot9597 If Sony bites, then goodbye Spiderverse :(
Can you imagine the universe where WDAS made a generic animated Spider-Man movie with a twist villain?
@@Letsjustnot9597 Isn't Sony a japanese company? Japan's government makes it harder for foreigner corporations to buy national companies.
Bob Iger will be remembered forever, his name will echo throughout the ages, and his story will be taught in school textbooks for centuries to come...
...As the man who singlehandedly bankrupted (creatively and in some cases monetarily) every single great franchise, film, and piece of art so dearly loved by his own customers.
You act like he never did a good thing in his life.
@@achaudhari101In the grand scheme of things, they get overshadowed by his recent actions.
@@achaudhari101He is destroying Walt’s dream. He deserves no credit. He mostly just bought out already successful brands. He didn’t have a hand in building the brand and the success of the company.
@@achaudhari101 i mean, did he? Disney went from a pillar of american culture to the poster child for everything that can go wrong with capitalism thanks to him. He made a lot of money for a bunch of already wealthy people, at the expense of his company's long term survival.... is that really a legacy to be celebrated?
@@josephbrown9685 Except he has done some good like getting Oswald back under Disney for instance. Probably didn’t even know about that didn’t you?
I was laughing my head off when I found out Disney was taking Iger back on as CEO in an apparent attempt to save the company. Anyone who's been paying attention should know that the current issues with Disney started under Bob Iger's reign. He's not saving ANYTHING
I think he came back to dispose of the evidence. Seems so with the current firings. He got rid of woke agenda director, the previous king killer, and if the rumors are true, the kk demon has been bottled in a magic lamp after indy 5. And yet, his contract extension by the board means he's going to have the time to burn everything down to ashes. I dont think it's his intention, just his only talent left.
It was like repeating history of when they hired JJ Abrams back to finish off the sequel trilogy.
@@alexhayden219Hey Force Awakens was Great!
@@alexhayden219 That isnt the fault of JJ, but Kathleen who change director midway and expect JJ to finish the story when the story is already ruined on the 2nd film.
@@cbandit7715 that sh*t sucked ass. yalls standards are LOW
"A man who ran the company into the ground by 15 years of buying Barbies only to behead them 5 minutes later" is a great quote.
Bob Iger - a guy who is responsible for being the destructor of all creativity.
That guy ruined Twin Peaks for fuck sake
> destructor of all creativity.
That's overselling it. The destructor of Disney's ability to be creative.
@@rommix0 Absolutely. 👍
That almost sounds like some Lord Vishnu-level shit. I love it.
nah
That guy screaming "I f*cking hate Star Wars" nearly made me cry. That is the sound of a man who has watched something so precious and dear to him be absolutely destroyed, and all he can do is watch
I understand them. I mean, I didn't scream in a similar fashion, but I have never seen another SW property... SINCE 2019. I have never seen any of the tv shows beyond clips, I was gonna binge Mando after it completes but ended up deleting it from my downloads (D+ was not yet available in my country at the time). And every time I hear a new SW show/movie is announced, I have a knee jerk reaction to stay the fuck away. I CAN'T EVEN LOOK AT THE OG TRILOGY ANYMORE WITHOUT BEING REMINDED THAT RISE OF SKYWALKER IS THE ULTIMATE ENDING OF THE FRANCHISE. I've heard so much great stuff about Andor, but even that could not make me watch it.
The Madaloerian was good you should watch it if you can.
@@hudsondunn8385 they've ruined that now too by trying to turn it into an interconnected series of shows
@@hudsondunn8385just stop, it’s over
17:10 man is broken
Bob Iger does indeed have a legacy. He'll forever be remembered as the man who took a company once focused on innovation and creativity and turned it into a completely rapacious monstrous devourer of iconic IP and an overall shell of itself, as well as destroying most of Hollywood thanks to said company acquiring about half of it. What a legacy to have.
I wouldn't call that a 'legacy' though, so much as a 'trail of ashes'.
he left a snail line of shit behind him
Bob Iger did achieve some good things early on… but it’s most likely on people like Lasseter, not Iger. Thus Iger started getting rid of them and/or bending them to his will.
Not even. Half those stories. Lion king, snow white, little mermaid, finding Nemo, all ripoffs of old stories and films from Asia and the Russian Germany area.
People like to shit on Michael Eisner, but forget he presided over Disney's most profitable period since Walt's departure. There's a reason they call Mike's tenure as CEO the "Disney Renaissance."
Whenever Bob finally skulls back to whatever rock he crawled out from, his reign will be remembered as a Disney Collapse.
People also forget the good things Iger did… and deservedly so at this point.
@@austinreed7343Bob’s negatives far outweigh his positives. Especially with how he showed how much of a scumbag he was in regards to the strike.
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More cynically, his positives could almost always lay at the feet of others; Roy E. Disney, John Lasseter, Stan Lee, Dave Filoni, etc.
You know it’s bad when you’re making people nostalgic for Michael Eisner
LMAO comment of the year
Sister's wedding: 🧑🌾
Disney's downfall: 🤵
Disney going bankrupt: 🧑⚖️🤩
And it’s all Iger’s fault.
@@AlonzoMarquisGraychipmonk mostly for what they did to the owl house
“The Shadow that bred them can only mock, it cannot make: not real new things of its own.”
- J RR Tolkien
Finally, someone uses the REAL quote by Tolkien. 👏
Disney DOES make new things actually.
Great video and thank you for pointing out the ridiculousness of people blaming Bob Chapek for recent Disney failures, when nearly all of these projects were approved while Bob Iger was still CEO the first time around.
Iger also remained CEO in principal during Chapels short tenure too.
I’m convinced Chapek was always meant as a fall guy: someone Iger brought in to take the blame for all his failures, while he could go on to be remembered as some kind of Disney legend.
And wasn’t Bob 1.0 still chairman of the board or something? There’s no way he can shirk blame and act dismayed by what Bob 2.0 supposedly did
yeah I think a lot of the blame comes understandably from Chapek’s very public, creatively bankrupt and out of touch takes on what “consumers want” from the parks and media. But like what else do you expect from billionaires who have no sense of reality and only operate under short term quarterly profits and stocks 🤷🏻♀️
Bob's biggest weakness is ego. Like Kennedy, he can't acknowledge his own mistakes, so he won't ever be able to win [back] the respect of the fans. The audience is more savvy than either of them realised, and no amount of mainstream and access media labelling fans toxic will change that.
That second sentence can be done.
A quote, can't remember the person who said it.
"You can ignore reality, but you can't ignore the consequences of ignoring reality."
Well said 👏🏽
@@achaudhari101 You don't understand how respect works then. I didn't Lucasfilm or Disney can't 'win back' fans - i.e. make something popular - I said Iger and KK won't ever be able to win back respect.
But by not disagreeing with the rest of my comment, I presume you agree that Iger and KK have the inability to admit mistakes, and they did indirectly blame the fandom for the backlash or drop in profits.
In which case, there's no need for you to comment further, even though I know you love to disagree.
@@weilandloveland Yeah, well Iger's concern has always been the bottom line. And he's forced to reach a conclusion, even if he's unable or incapable of actually identifying the root cause. Like many of his kind, 'investor confidence' clouds every single comment he makes.
There's an additional element to Iger's start at Disney that, on one part, should have been a warning, but on another part, seems completely comical considering how things turned out. The first is the desperate search for the next Pirates of the Caribbean, where they tried to have their own Lord of the Rings/Harry Potter with Narnia, they tried to revive Tron, they tried to make the Lone Ranger, they tried MORE Pirates movies... and it continued to fail. Tron Legacy is kind of an odd one in particular as it was written with the intention of being a new trilogy, stumbling into the same mistake Universal would with The Mummy re-remake. Granted how much of that was started by Iger is unknown, but Iger became President of Disney in 2000. There's a good chance he was moving chess pieces even back then.
But the really interesting thing is that a lot of those films were also part of the motivation for getting Marvel, and later LucasFilm, in the first place: to try and appeal more to boys. Disney had the young girl market in their pocket ever since The Little Mermaid, and so they started to purchase brands like Marvel and Star Wars and make movies like Wreck-it-Ralph to make up for their demographic shortcomings. By the latter half of the 2010's, however, well... let's just say there's a lot of reasons I want to forget Ralph Breaks the Internet exists, and one of those is a clear demographic change.
Granted you could open up a bigger discussion on how busted Western media is in regards to how it focuses on demographics and draws a lot of assumptions on them, when on the other hand I grew up watching Sailor Moon and enjoying it because it still had a good story despite clearly being targeted towards girls. But for the purposes of Bob Iger, it's just interesting to see that his intent to appeal more to boys got completely hijacked and now we have She-Hulk.
The really bad MCU stuff is aimed at “more mature audiences”, like SI.
Three things: 1. Bob Iger isn't a businessman, he's a corporate bureaucrat; 2. The marketplace is sometimes slow to react, but it almost always punishes (usually very permanently) businesses that pump out sub-standard products and take their customers for granted; 3. Disney has being playing accounting games, which has masked they real severity of their financial issues, notably their actual free cash flows and working capital is what's driving this crisis.
This last point is really critical: Disney's actual financial health (much like Enron and Lehman in their last days) is much worse than a cursory review of their annual and quarterly balance sheets might first indicate. This is why Iger is driving cost-cutting so hard: their ability to fund operations has become a real problem because lenders are starting to seriously question their asset valuations (specifically IP, franchises, studios and theme parks) based on the poor performance of nearly every segment of their business. Worse, Iger can't take the obvious step of unloading problem / damaged assets like Lucas Film, because everyone knows it would go to someone else for pennies on the dollar. Borrowing is facilitated, in no small part, by asset valuation and future revenue generation of those assets and, right now, it's pretty obvious that both near and long-term prospects for Disney are poor.
So why do I say Bob Iger isn't a businessman (or a very poor one, if the moniker most be applied)? Because a businessman must care about creativity if they're to continue producing superior products that customers will buy. This is actually true in every business, no matter how mundane a business may first appear. That creativity might be in the artistry of animation, the design of an automobile, the engineering of a semiconductor, the flavor of a toothpaste, and so on. It also manifests in the work of marketers, packaging folks, new concepts and ideas, research and development and, yes, even the necessary bureaucratic processes needed to facilitate all of this efficiently in a large company. Bob Iger has respected none of these things, and the results are now obvious. A simple analogy: it's as if Iger took over Procter & Gamble, started buying all the competition while making every tooth paste taste like licorice, every shampoo, shaving cream, etc., smell like lavender, crapping out ever more identical licorice and lavender flavored products, and then blamed the customers who don't like licorice and lavender when customers complain and products sit on store shelves. Oh, and liking the taste of regular old, pre-licorice flavored Crest makes you a bad person.
Say what you will about Michael Eisner, but he absolutely did know how to run a company. He invested in the creative aspects of the company, understood that the studio producing quality creative output was absolutely necessary to support the other parts of the business. He understood how to drive growth throughout Disney. He left Disney in a state where it was an absolute titan of the industry. Not that Eisner wasn't without flaws, but he'll be remembered as Disney's greatest CEO, whereas Iger will be remembered as the guy who ran the company into the ground (along with every studio and property he bought).
His buying spree was fueled by record low interest rates. With global capital drying up and now in an era of rising rates due to inflation, Disney is doomed and May eventually go bankrupt due to the debt overhang.
Which is why attacking Chapek is misguided. Only theme park folks have a point, hating him for cutting costs. Corporate America has three main groups of leaders: accountants, marketers and bureaucrats. Chapek is an accountant but when he took over and took power, he tried his hands at being a marketer by trying to find projects that made more money for him to account for but he wasn't too good at it obviously. But he tried to right the ship. Iger is just a bureaucrat who does behind the scenes deals with his relationships, selling BS buzzwords to shareholders, and is not good at creating or selling anything to customers, like a marketer (say Mike Eisner) is. Pixar and Marvel had passionate creators at the helm till Bob Iger took power away from them, right before he left. Chapek wanted to empower the marketing team again, then, Iger came back and TOOK POWER AWAY FROM THEM AGAIN to give to bureaucratic controller types again like he did right before he left! Chapek knew what he wasn't good at and tried to fix it. Iger is blind to his own weakness because he's a smug prick and Disney is PAYING for it!
Iger did have some good traits though.
I will always admire Disney as animation studio. Disney as a company on the other hand...
disney is not what it used to be.
Eisner was the best after Walt. He had a lot of misfires, but he knew what Disney had to be in its core.
Iger is probably in third, though his recent actions are really pushing his legacy down the shitter.
I don’t know why Eisner gets such a bad reputation, he saved Disney from filing for bankruptcy and stressed the importance of creativity within the company. He had an ugly departure but not enough to justify the way people scoff about him. Frank wells and Michael Eisner were prime for Disney both in the parks and on the big screen. The Disney renaissance secured Disney’a position and ability to make award winning animated pictures.
Mike wore Mickey Mouse on his freaking ties. He cared so much about the stories and “magic” Disney was founded upon.
Bob saw a money-making machine and ran it to the ground by ignoring what made it so special to the masses. He churned out mediocre stories using beloved IPs as vessels just to justify his costly acquisitions. It’s devastating.
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More cynically, anything good Iger did was because he was being held back by others, and what we are seeing now is the true, unrestrained Iger.
@@austinreed7343 sheesh that is cynical and probably true. His recent comments have seemed so out of character, but it’s probably who he’s been all along.
I wish the stories and characters we loved/grew up with weren’t collateral but alas…
"Buying Barbies only to behead them minutes later" pretty much sums up this era of acquisition.
Comparing Eisner to Iger without talking about Frank Wells seems like fundamentally not understanding the difference between the 2 people and how they managed Disney. Eisner Was actually awesome in terms of understanding Disney as a creative company. But he had a lot of flaws as a business man. Frank Wells was the Ying to his Yang. Before Wells dies Eisners and Wells had the company in the best place its maybe ever been. After Wells Died Eisner had to handle significantly more including things he wasn't very good at. Which lead to a few financially disastrous decisions. Mainly Euro Disney (now Disneyland Paris) and DCA. Iger was always an Empty Suit. He was brought in to make sure the financial failures that happened toward the end of the Eisner era wouldn't happen again. He never understood the company creatively and never will. Walt Disney was Largely the same way as Eisner where His brother Roy handled a lot of the business aspects of things where Walt was about the creativity of it all. What Made Eisner and Wells different from Walt and Roy is who died first. Walt died before Roy and Left a creative vacuum in the company for a long time. Wells died before Eisner and Left a Business savyy vacuum that lead to some bad business decisions that hurt the company financially. Iger is Just the business guy. so there is no creativity and the company does not care. Iger is Infinitely worse than Eisner ever was.
Iger also had a period where he was good, too.
The corporate types like Bob Iger aren't true bussinessmen they're politicians.
Bureaucrats.
@@Grubnar They're both of those.
We are way past blaming left wing liberal Democrats with this whole “going woke going broke “ bullshit.
@@AlonzoMarquisGraychipmonkSomeone's coping.
The deal is that Iger's whole plan was reliant on Alan Horn, who is already considered the most successful Hollywood executive of all time just for his time in WB, the run the film division, as well the nonexistent interest rates the world central banks set after 2008 and didn't raise until 2021.
And while we like to give Eisner flack over that "we want money, no arts" quote he was quite the creative guy, he even considered himself as the last creative CEO in Hollywood, when LotR became too expensive to the Disney-owned Miramax to make he offered to have Disney co-producd it just to Harvey Weinstein to not give the script and just have it be shipped to New Line. Iger was the one who ruined Twin Peaks for fuck's sake.
Wasn’t Iger the head of ABC at the time Twin Peaks was initially released?
Also this is probably one of the saner comments there is, as you mentioned Alan Horn - who with Barry Meyer made WB into a box office juggernaut during their time at the company.
Bob Chapek took the blame for every single bad decision made by Bob Iger.
I'm starting to think that was exactly the plan. Bring in a fall guy then Iger will be back to "save the day".
Ikr?
…Iger didn’t disrespect Animation out loud the way Chapek did
@@mrchrisliddell It was exactly the plan. Let's be clear Chapek did himself no favors as he was absolutely horrible. But that was probably planned too. "Bring in this guy who really sucks so when I when I come back in I won't get blamed for any of the shit I got us into and People will act like I am the Hero"
@@erikripley9285 absolutely agree. But guess what, Iger? Nobody's fooled. What a mess.
After his comments on SAG and the WGA, I don’t know how anybody, even people who do like some of the lesser liked Disney projects, can even tolerate this guy. If said comments are anything to go off of, he’s straight up evil.
It sounds like negotiations on AI have gone soooo terribly... it really tells me that he has no care for creativity or art
@@ashlyn37 For all corporations, no matter what they tell you, the end goal is and always will be profit. It's not the art, or the employees, or the culture, it's ALWAYS profit no matter the cost. Iger embodies that.
@@MrRapmaster19 Really? Because last I checked people thought everyone in Hollywood were all wokesters who shouldn’t have been writers to begin with.
@@achaudhari101 Your point? "Wokeness" (whatever the hell that means anymore) doesn't have anything to do with people working in arts being exploited and taken advantage of, unless you're talking about studio heads mandating agendas from their writers to give off a brand image they think people will enjoy at the cost of good scripts.
@@MrRapmaster19 Actually it is since a lot of these recent failures by Disney were due to agendas by the people in Hollywood. It is as they say “cruel but necessary evil” after they abused consumers for so long with mediocre quality and writing.
“No, pleeeaaase don’t strike, you’re being unrealistic and you’ll ruin businesses 😢” - Bob Iger while on his private yacht
Bob Iger how dare workers asked for mimum wage so unrealistic what do These people think of made of money
Can you repeat that in english or with punctuation or something?
minimum wage workers support the policies that inflate our money to be worth less. They make bad decisions in voting and in life.
@@MAGAMANthe beauty of English is that that sentence can actually be understood even though it's written like that lol
This man will end up being THE most hated man in the movie world probably for many years going forward. I can see in 200 years people still using the term “don’t Igor it or your fired!” I guess his name will live on infamy, just not the way he wanted lol
Even on some channels I thought knew better, the line "Iger is back to save Disney!" was being echoed when Chapek was ousted, and I couldn't resist dropping comments telling them they were horribly mistaken... Iger has NOTHING to do with any Disney successes that I am aware of. Acquiring other intellectual property isn't an achievement if you just throw enough money at it... what you DO with those franchises is what showcases your abilities.
Someone needs to convonce Iger to buy the Pokemon franchise, it would be fascinating to see that franchise stop making bank.
Yeah, it's hilarious that people complained Chapek was 'cheap', and rejoiced when Iger came back, for him to continue exactly what Chapek was doing, while also scapegoating him. Chapek was also lumbered with the pandemic fallout, not just the creative time bomb Iger left him.
Eww. Fuck that.
Pokemon is it's own problem
If Disney buy Pokémon, Japan will declare war on America. Please, stop! 😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂
Dude.... awesome video! Sorry the algorithm isn't catching for you, because you're making quality content. You can see all the hard work you put into your projects. It bleeds through the screen. All the editing research script writing etc etc. All you need is 1 video to catch fire and you're off to the races. Keep doing your thing. I'll keep being here to watch 🤘🏻
I think this one was it.
I feel bad for Bob Chapek. The guy was clearly trying to turn the company around, using the same strategy as WB's CEO David Zaslov, but he greatly underestimated how deep Disney's problems ran. While Iger will be remembered as a modern day Icarus, Chapek will be seen as the textbook example of a fallguy
I'd say there was definitely studio intervention in Marvel earlier. You can feel it in the marketing and the toyification and plots making room for newer betterer differenter characters... And also a lot of failed side projects. A LOT of failed side projects. Most of which turned into half-assed TV shows... Even when they were announced as something else. Like Inhumans.
Toyification was baked into the foundation of Marvel Studios, both Ike Perlmutter and Avi Arad were toy guys.
its a shamme
I genuinely didn't think they could kill my interest in star wars, but they somehow did it. I fell almost entirely uninclined to keep up with anything star wars and it makes me happy to see that they are now paying for it.
Same. I used to regularly binge the whole saga but after TROS, it was years before I realized I hadn't watched them in years because I didn't care anymore. Like damn.
And this is why I’ve been stuck on Kotor 2 forever and ever. Because you look at this new dreck and it just doesn’t compare to the majesty of Kotor 2
This but with marvel . As a massive f4 I couldn’t give a shit what Disney is planning to with it .
You can tell just by looking at Chapek that he's on edge 100% of the time. He knew what he got handed, and I bet he wanted out lol.
02:18 [ Iger ] is not a "money-hungry Capitalist"... He's a Corporatist. They're not the same. In fact, they're anathema to each other.
Among the many, fundamental differences:..
Corporatists are all about acquisition and consolidation, to the point of ((if allowed to get away with it)) creating monopolies... and they're very-Very-VERY risk-averse. _Capitalists are the exact opposite. They esteem and advocate competition, especially concerning one of its symbiotic/synergistic components -- innovation.._
[ Iger and those like him, which is roughly 99% of contemporary mainstream entertainment industry ] are the consequence of America's departure from Capitalism. A departure which began decades ago....
....What we're witnessing, not just in Disney but throughout nigh all of Hollywood is the consequence of not just Corporatism, but worse, a Corporatism blended and guided by Cultural Marxist theory... ergo, the beginning of its collapse.
Thank you! I was literally about to comment this distinction as I thought it when I heard that. Most people don't understand the difference. Most capitalists despise corporations because of how parasitic they are and how they destroy real capitalism. Corporatists are more akin to politicians than capitalists, looking out for themselves and their /power/ not the long term financial health of their business as they'll just sell companies and divisions off and buy new ones. Companies have to deliver what the consumer wants and are thus healthy and beholden to the people, corporations are not.
@@knightfenrirwulfhart2866 You're most welcome 😊
What's so funny is that Disney has been consistently deconstructing so many of their previous properties. If the Rey movie was a deconstruction of her, that could actually be super interesting...but they'd *never* do that.
“Deconstruction” was and always has been just an excuse to get rid of the Old and replace it with their New. And Rey IS the New it was meant to bring in all along.
I bet if someone were to deconstruct Rey, it would be very mean spirited and not even try to give her respect.
Dude I absolutely love the way you make your vids man
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Disney acquiring all these studios and IPs was much like collecting the Infinity Stones but unfortunately the power was too much and they inevitably crumbled.
I will never forgive Bob after what he did to George Lucas, the greatest filmmaker of our time.
Making him rich(er)?
@@Grubnar In Bob Igloo's book he says how he swindled George into making the deal, and obviously running the franchise into the ground, giving it a grape and sucking out it's soul didn't make him happy either.
@@kelp7060 George Lucas is no moron, he knew what he was doing. Just look up his "white slavers" comment.
Now, with that having been said, I am sure Lucas had NO IDEA Disney would mis-manage what he had created THIS badly!
@@kelp7060 i never forgive bob iger for what he did to the owl house with his bad choices
I find it hilarious that Disney tried so hard to push Nimona down the toilet while they already have so many projects stuck in development hell: the Darkwing Duck reboot, the threequels for National Treasure, Tron and The Princess Diaries, every Star Wars movie, a Pirates of the Caribbean movie, the live action African princess movie, Sade, which I'm convinced at this point they turned it into the live action Little Mermaid movie.
And at the same time, Nimona has gotten so much critical acclaim, Disney's neverending sabotage of their animated movies is biting them in the ass with a counting number of blox office flops! It's like poetry, it rhymes! They also sabotaged every live action movie that isn't part of the brands they bought or studio they own. I mean, I'd love to see another ORIGINAL PG 13 live action franchise but they don't care.
Wish I would've gotten to see Nimona in theaters. We don't see many queer leads in kids/family movies or animated movies on the big screen.
A film where the viewership is low and would have costed Disney money for being woke.
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Well, there’s so many bad woke works that a good woke one would not merit any attention from Disney. They’re oversaturated.
@@austinreed7343 Problem is no one wants to keep those good things sacred or are lazy to do that even.
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Actually, there ARE good woke stuff like Nimona and the Owl House.
Owl House is ehhhh.
A lot of what it drags it down is Luz.
She is awful.
Wow big props on the editing, Nutsa! This video was a blast to watch.
Disney needs to be run by a "Walt and Roy" duo. Like how Walt was the creative visionary while Roy was the business and money man. A perfect balance. Give too much power to one or the other and it goes out of balance. Iger is a money man running Disney which just doesn't work.
Great video! It’s a shame how far Disney has fallen, but when you’ve got Bobby Iger on board I guess that’s what’s bound to happen. It’s really funny how all the shills were cheering at his contract extension, it’s like Disney signed their own death warrant with that move. Iger stepping down was a “big-brained” move by him to avoid personal responsibility once the shit hit the fan. It was kinda brilliant actually: use the pandemic and Chapek’s refusal to do anything as an excuse for why movies bomb and park prices going up while services go down, then come back and be the knight in shining armor. Unfortunately for Bobby, more and more people are seeing past his bullshit, and after his comments on the SAG-AFTRA strikes, he’s definitely taking Eisner’s place as the CEO that brought Disney down. The downfall can’t come soon enough.
Another great video, Nutsa. You are consistently putting out some of the best content out there. Keep up the great work. Now...
Bob Iger is bad but I tend to believe just how bad Micheal Eisner got and was after Frank Wells passed away was worse. Igar has done a lot stupid things but Eisner basically created Disney's main rival in animation in Dreamworks with his treatment of Katzenberg. With Eisner so much damage had been done there was a break between Eisner and Pixar chairman Steve Jobs, with Pixar abruptly abandoning its partnership with Disney. Eisner bought ABC, which has been a dragged on the company ever since, The overpriced acquisition of Fox Family(now FreeForm). The search engine GO was a disaster. Hell, Eisner misjudged Michael Ovitz, a man who was not only "the most powerful man in Hollywood" but also his friend, whom he appointed as Disney president and immediately wanted to fire. Disney under Igar has been awful but Disney under Eisner there was an actual revolt within the Broad.
You are right - There was so much revolt that Roy E Disney initiated the Save Disney campaign. Both Eisner (Being a bit of a shit head later in his career as a CEO as what you mentioned) and Iger (focusing too much on financial gains and acquiring existing properties in expense of long term creative health) have wrecked Disney in more shapes than one, but the way they did it differs.
Funnily enough, Roy Disney is not exactly a saint either - he was a contributing factor in why Katzenberg (who happened to be an egoist as well) noped the fuck out to form Dreamworks with Geffen and Spielberg (hence where SKG came from).
Harvey Dent's "you either die a hero or live long enough to see yourself become the villain" will always ring true for all corporations
Looking at the amount of criticism Hollywood has taken it's exposed how empty our lives are without the distraction they use to bring. You'd hope that if a movie failed it wouldn't set off people the way it does. You'd hope people would have many meaningful things going on in their lives and we'd all just move on but that's not what's happening.
As Hollywood has gone to shit I have had to start looking at my life and asking what gives me meaning? I never realized how much these movies meant to me and without a steady flow of new quality entertainment I'm left to confront the void in my life and seeking to fill it with more meaningful things.
Most people don't actually care that much. The section of the public watching entertainment opinion pieces on YT and commenting about them is pretty small tbh.
Most of my friends are into their work, families, sports, physical fitness etc. How well Disney is or isn't doing is pretty far down the list.
"There's a level of expectation that they have that's just unreasonable... I can't tell you why, it just is."
Bob Iger 2023, when discussing why he can't pay writers a fair wage.
This will be his legacy, along with all the other crap he's done
@@zogwort1522 yeah absolutely. CEO's provide no value to any company or society as a whole, and yet, they have a salary that is absolutely ridiculous and generally unreasonable. Just like landlords they are no better than parasites on society, then again even a parasite can have it's uses.
Bob Iger never left. Chapek was the CEO for no more than 6 months. The remaining 16 months Iger was in control. And now he’ll stay until the day that he dies.
Reminder. Bob Iger was the one that officially killed the Buena Vista brand.
Always a pleasure to see you upload
Say what you will about Eisner near the end his tenure, but during his leadership he ushered in the Disney Renaissance and took the company to creative and monetary heights that hadnt been seen in years. Iger is the one who slowly drove it into the ground by buying and then immidiatly killing golden geese. Disney is no longer a brand that is synonymous with quality. Now its a joke where the entertainment is seeing it burn to the ground.
13:25 Chapek did have enough time to order some coffee! Unfortunately, it was Kathleen Kennedy and Victoria Alonso that fetched it for him…
The distinction between nostalgia and reputation is a great way to explain why people are finally saying "screw it!".
Really well made video! You’ve become a lot better with English pronunciation and comedic timing over the years. For your Patreon, it might be smart to include a little “About” section to tell people who you are and your future goals
Bob Iger is neither a financial risk taker nor a capitalist.
He's an ESG cultist.
exactly. people blame capitalism -- offering products in exchange for money -- for Disney doing this. No one wants woke stuff, that's why it's in decline. Capitalism forces companies to sell us something we wanna buy. But leftists prefer a system where we are forced to give our money for stuff we didn't ask for.
Can we agree he us both that three things
That last sound byte you played from Bob Iger was fantastic.
The man is literally telling us why Disney is failing right now.
First, I want to let you know that I love your videos. I can tell you put a lot of love, time, and care into them, and it really shows. Additionally, you are very good at articulating your thoughts, making it easy to follow your ideas and understand what you want to communicate. I truly enjoy hearing your ideas and viewpoints!
I Agree 100% with what you said. Towards the end, when you were talking about reputation, it got me thinking... Why haven't I seen any Star Wars or Marvel shows for over a year? Oh, it's because of the reputation they now have. This reputation is a result of their own work, and it has nothing to do with reviews or videos of other people speaking poorly about them, at least not in my case. I stopped watching their shows and movies because the quality has become incredibly poor (I mean, the last Star Wars show I watched was Obi-Wan, and what a huge disappointment that was). I simply stopped caring about them.
I've always liked Indiana Jones; I've never been a huge fan, but I enjoy those movies (the three that matter). When the last movie was announced, I felt nothing, absolutely nothing. I didn't even have a sense of curiosity. I didn't watch it, and I don't think I ever will.
Star Wars used to be my favorite franchise by far. When I was little, I became a fanboy of Harry Potter, but even back then, if you asked me what my favorite universe/franchise was, I would have still told you it was Star Wars.
Imagine my surprise when I watched The Last Jedi, thinking that it was impossible for Star Wars to have a bad movie... and walking out of the theater feeling like a part of me had just died. The impossible became possible; a bad Star Wars movie was created, and I was unlucky enough to witness it.
Now, I've heard that Lucasfilm plans to make that acolyte crap and a new movie with Rey as the protagonist, and just as you clearly stated in your video, their reputation makes me not give a damn. I KNOW they will be bad. But I also KNOW this is not Star Wars. It may bear the same name and exist in a similar universe, but this is something else. Star Wars died the day George Lucas sold his company to the devil in a mouse's disguise. The same goes for Marvel, Pixar (a company I also believed could never make a bad movie), and so on.
Anyway, this company is going down the drain, and I couldn't be happier. Not because I wish them harm (I actually feel kind of sorry for all the good people I know who work there and genuinely care about art and telling good stories), but because HOPEFULLY this will bring about a change in the company and they will finally fire Kathleen Kennedy for her crimes against humanity.
You know not everything they make is garbage right? I mean we have seen some gems recently.
@@achaudhari101 That's true, some of the things they have done are pretty good. But those are few and far between. I did watched Guardians 3 for example, but that's an exception and I watched that for James Gunn, because I still trust him. The Marvels for example, is a movie I won't watch because I feel no interest in it, like Indiana Jones.
I hope the good things they do become the rule and not the exception, just like the old days.
@@achaudhari101 yeah, some of it almost reached the heights of forgettable mediocrity.... which is what the name Disney was synonymous with before Iger, right?
@@petriew2018 No.
I have to admit, I've been pretty much the same way as far as being hugely in love with Star Wars when I was younger but feeling almost nothing for this franchise anymore like I used to since Disney took it over.
On the flip side I wasn't very interested in Star Trek when I was younger, but revisiting it on Paramount+ it has grown on me to the point where I can now see why it's always had its own strong following. So I'd definitely say the pendulum for these two iconic sci-fi franchises has finally been shifting for me, which I'm sure has not been helped by Disney's own handling of Star Wars today.
Now I become Bob Iger the destroyer of creativity.
I know someone that works for Disney advertising, they adore the dude .
Some kind of cult like thought that they still think they are winning
Ngl im almost glad that disney is finally starting to collapse, its gonna be nice to see them have to make their way back to the top using all of the IPs they own in actually creative ways for once
Bob Iger sounds like the kind of guy who'd look at latte foam art and then drink it immediately before someone gives him the idea to take a picture of it
Can you imagine not so long ago back in 2020 we were so scared of Disney becoming a huge monopolies controlling most of our entertainment? And they're now falling under their own weight LMAO.
And thankfully, Disney is going to be trust busted and broken up in the not too distant future so that means bye bye Marvel, Lucasfilm, ABC, Pixar, etc.
Why are you not a famous director yet? Your editing skills are incredible.
Just like the man who started it all 100 years ago, Bob Iger will leave the company with a complicated legacy. The man who built a media empire to now potentially sharing a similar fate as Michael Eisner did in his final years, with the company’s reputation going down with them.
George Lucas does deserve a large portion of the blame for the destruction of Star Wars. He sold it to Disney and it was his idea that Kathleen Kennedy would run Lucasfilm.
No
It wasn't his idea, though it did convince him to sell, since he had worked with "Kathy" for a long time and thought she was trustworthy.
eh, that depends a lot on how much information we simply don't have.
If Lucas was lied to by people like Iger and Kennedy about what they intended to do with star wars, then no, he doesn't deserve much, if any blame
If he know just how utterly fucking stupid Kennedy really was but just signed for the money anyway, then yes, he's quite guilty
it all really depends on what he believed Disney intended to do with the franchise
@@petriew2018 Lucas didn't 'sign for the money'. Kennedy was someone he trusted, and Iger was someone he felt he 'owed' for help getting the Young Indy Chronicles made.
His core motivation was for Star Wars to keep being made for fans at a point he was too old, and more importantly for LF to survive and therefore his company and its staff had a secure future (or hypothetically would have).
LF needed a big win again, like more Star Wars, and he didn't want to spend 10 years making another trilogy.
Disney also had the capability to develop a Star Wars theme park, which was also part of the decision.
Lucas didn't need to sell, they just needed to sit on the IP and let it continue printing money for them for the foreseeable future like gainax does with evangelion. Now the IP has no value and Lucas wants nothing to do with it. What a waste.
"Dont ask questions, just consume product and then get excited for next product"
I could not be happier to see this outcome. Indie movies are coming back, hollywood monopoly with Disney at the helm is breaking and it is just about time this be broken, let the market speak.
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It actually *hurts* to remember how much I *loved* the mcu. Not just liked, *loved* Being born in 2004, it was my childhood, it was my constant growing up. I remember how much I cared about the movies and more importantly, the characters. I remember SOBBING in the theaters during Endgame. I will never feel like that again, ever.
I want Disney, the animation to soar!
I want Disney, the monopoly to burn!
Man, there were so many people cheering when Iger was coming back to the company and I was like… really? He’s the CAUSE of all the issues Disney has and you all want him back?! Insane. Also, Bob Iger did not leave because of his contract, he was supposed to leave in 2021 and stepped down early and it was a HUGE surprise… done suspiciously close to when the COVID lockdowns occurred and the company took their first huge hit. 🤔
I'm in awe at the quality of the editing and analysis here, really excellent.
Bob Chapek wasn’t exactly innocent, he made horrible decisions as well.
He introduced Disney genie, continued to increase park prices to the even MORE absurd levels that they’re at today, went crazy with spending on a million marvel shows, alienated his own employees in Disneys war against Ron Desantis, and was effectively flopping around accidentally making everything around him much worse lol
Don't Forget Bob Chapek Closed Down Blue Sky.
Can someone please explain to me why everyone kind of hates Elemental? When I saw it, I knew it wasn't perfect, but it had some cute moments. Honestly, it's been so rare for Disney to put out any film these days where romance is a focal point that I appreciated the move.
To me Elemental didn’t had a strong enough hook to make me go “OH HELL YEAH! I want to see this in theaters!”
Don't know why can't we just ignore the name of the studio and just watch it?
It has so far made 314 million dollars at the box office. Not a big flop, but still a huge disappointment. It seems like word of mouth keeps the movie in theatres and people still wanna go and see it. I am going to see it tomorrow as I am writing this down.
I think the Year of Failure was being set up as early as 2017. From there it was a steady cascade of quality drops across the film and park divisions. Pricing and predatory market practices were growing out of hand, and production budgets vs. quality were getting out of control. Long-established IPs were being overtly disrespected and treated like annual FIFA or CoD releases. Cap that off with clear ideological busybodying in all of its offerings and there's really no mystery to be solved.
I do not & cannot understand why you aren't a bigger channel.
I swear ive been seeing your videos for at least a year and I've always thought:
Editing is spot on,
Scripts are funny,
Timing is good,
Background music is well chosen.
11/10 hope you blow up sometime soon and get the recognition you deserve.
The Infinity Saga was more of Ike Perlmutter’s brainchild than it was Kevin Feige’s
By looking at how Iger demoted Ike back in 2018 and charting the progression since the start of Phase 4, this became especially clear once we started seeing Kevin Feige + Victoria Alonso being completely unchallenged.
The reason I say this has everything to do with what Ike Perlmutter WAS for Marvel: the Merchandising/Toy Maker Magnate that meticulously crafted stuff as to maximize profits specifically by being a penny pincher. He’s basically the “George Lucas of Marvel Studios”, albeit not the guy completely involved with the legacy of the company
You’ll beg for Phase 4 when we get to the purely Alonso phases.
So Bob Iger is like EA....just buy studios then crash them.
Great video. Somehow though, I have this sinking feeling that even if Bob Iger manages to completely raze Disney to the ground he won't care because he himself will still walk away a multi millionaire. That said, perhaps then we will see change; after all, who on EARTH would ever hire him again with that kind of reputation?
people vote with their dollars. They are telling Disney they are okay with this.
@@willdegra317No, they're not. That's why Disney is losing money.
Ugh, I hate how UA-cam randomly tries to put down creators like you. Keep making good content!
Suddenly Michael Eisner doesn't seem so bad after all.
I love how u ignore the biggest problem, the woke crap that they shoved everything, like destroying all old heroes and producing their movies "for a modern audience"
The ridiculous thing is If the plan was to buy all the competitors, make actual good content with them, while introducing new franchises & properly paying their workers. they'd be better than fine right now but no they somehow just can't fathom making actual good content that would actually benefit them.
The Funny thing about the Infinity Saga. It almost didn’t happen. Kevin Feige threatened to leave the MCU if he wasn’t promised the ability to make more diversity focused characters and stories after the Infinity Saga ended. So the MCU we currently see, the one that has performed mediocrely, this was the Marvel he WANTED to make. The Infinity Saga might I’ve looked different if Feige was give complete autonomy. It truly was lighting in a bottle.
The truth is that Iger never left.
Disney supported woke democrat politics and the decline began.
Abandoning family values and attacking society for democrat politics have killed the reputation of this once wholesome company
If they truly were in it for the money, the second their movies started selling less than stellar, they would have instantly fired Kathleen Kennedy's ass as well as everyone else and fixed it so it wasn't hot garbage.
I thought Bob Iger was a shitty CEO when I realized he left Chapek to flounder around in the pandemic but still hovered around like a vulture for Chapek's downfall
Ever since then i have been hearing one bad thing after another about this guy and i cant wait for him to just be gone
bob iger must get sure to get security for his funeral, because i can imagine millions of people want to throw rocks at his coffin
Bob Iger could start to get some credibility back by cancelling the new Snow White before it embarrasses Disney...it was Disney's first feature film and a historical work of genius, Iger could get some respect by saving that before it's destroyed. But you have to realize that he *can't do it* because he actually has to destroy Snow White otherwise he'll be ostracized from the sub-billionaire progressive community who are his few friends in life. Do you think Bob Iger is going to lose his friends and take some stand against the destruction of Snow White? All his friends have a similar mindset and think like the way KK does and they're going to be highly offended if he doesn't support the destruction of Snow White. He has a herd mentality so there's no other choice for him.
Hey Nutsa, I just wanted to say I loved the video but I do have one question. When you said Disney is “Star Wars-ing Marvel” what did you mean? If anything, Disney forced the sequel trilogy to be more like Marvel with their bad jokes at inappropriate times and bumbling comic relief characters that served no narrative purpose.
Superb video. Thoroughly enjoyed this, and despite some heated arguments with friends I totally agree. The identity politics, the poor story telling, the shoddy quality of the films themselves, both in look and script, the predictability of the plots, the releases, the milking of one successful IP only to destroy its legacy. This has been a long time coming. Call me crazy, I would welcome Apple purchasing Disney, cos they are making some extremely thought provoking well made, by carefully selected films and television. On a sensible budget to boot.
Do I want Apple to take over the world no. But do I want them to save some of my favourite IPs, yes yes yes.
Not sure about the business hate. George Lucas was both a creative and a savvy businessman. He merchandised the heck out of Star Wars, and he used it to build both his special effects studio and the small empire that became lucasfilm. Pixar had Steve Jobs, the Ying to John Lasseter’s Yang. But I think the point about the companies noticeably getting worse at the point at which Iger likely started to pay more attention to them is fascinating. It’s hard to appreciate someone’s legacy in the thick of things. I remember Eisner being incredibly reviled by the time he was ousted, and now we look back fondly on a lot of what he accomplished. Especially in the parks, a lot of the expanding happened under Eisner. But I think they kind of follow a similar trajectory. They accomplished a lot of things early on, some of it really good, and by the end they were not willing to hand over the reigns, even as their shortcomings were starting to show. I know Chapek was not popular, but I was curious to see what he could do. Disney has real financial issues, and Chapek was supposed to be good at that. He was a lousy politician though, and that sort of killed him in the end.
Crazy just how much grace you’re giving Chapek lol.
17:16 what the heck is happening there? They all sound like they're screaming in hell
I really disagree when people talk ill of Eisner. The man made his fair share of poor decisions, especially at the end of his time and especially with the parks -
But when he came on in the early 80s, Disney was in serious trouble, and it only got worse. While you can hardly say he caused the Disney Renaissance, I think that execs like him being there who had the trust to be hands off creatively was extremely important in allowing these films to take off.
Eisner said in an interview once that they're committed to animation because it's the soul of the company.
Compare this to Iger, who's successes early on were mostly overseeing films that had been in production for ages, or just watching an already well established production machine.
Eisner did to Disney theme parks what Iger did to Disney’s Cinema; over saturated the brand with impulsive business moves with next to no thought nor creativity behind them. Disneyland Korea was a train wreck, Disney quest was just a desperate attempt of copying chuckie cheese when that franchise was booming at the time, and he’s one the the reasons people began to precieve Disney as culty because how impulsive he was. Like Iger after a while Esnier was doing nothing with his ideas but costing them money, Not as much but he had questionable flops in during his run.
@@sideeyed7682 Again, I don't think Eisner did much good for the parks at all, but at least he did well with the movie business for the most part. I think that Iger hast failed at both.
Somehow, Iger's contract was renewed.
Wait, do we believe this?
To quote Breaking Bad fans, are they dumb?
"You can fool some of the people all of the time, and all of the people some of the time, but you can not fool all of the people all of the time"
- Abraham Lincoln
And this is the reason why Disney will fall.
So you generated a shitton of money and attention by carefully and precisely planning out an entire movie series ahead of its start? Haha good one, now get back to work on that random movie about the strong green guy and his competition with his strong green girlfriend. The fans will love it.