Tired Franchises Hollywood Refuses To Let Die
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I remember the creator behind Powerpuff girls saying on Twitter he pitched something like 9 original shows and none of them got picked up. But as soon as he said reboot Powerpuff girls the studio was all over him
Exactly! I’m tired of seeing that “Hollywood has no original ideas” or “creativity is dead”. The problem is studios not trusting audiences to become invested in something new.
@@andiman44THIS is exactly the problem!
@@andiman44 so true.
It's always the higher up making the dumbest decision
It’s worse than that: he pitched SIXTEEN original shows to Netflix and all of them were turned down. It’s so messed up
The Powerpuff girls TV show reboot was canceled already 😆
The worse thing about Harry potter is that there are so many things they can talk about: the marauders, the founding fathers, even focusing on the trio's children, idk. Why retell the story of Harry, Hermione and Ron again?
Why? Money, that's why
it would be cool if the muggle society (baseline human society) accidently discover magic through scientific experiments and that triggers hogwarts and other magic schools to investigate this.
They could even expand outside of Hogwarts. Show us more of the Wizarding World, the other schools and ministries. Why focus on one country when there are the wizard communities in South America, Africa, Asia and other parts of Europe. Harry Potter has tons of international fans across the world, they could make movies that aren't even in English.
Why not making a movie version of The Cursed Child? That play was amazing.
she has an insistence on editorial control which keeps leading to really weird racist/antisemitic stuff popping up, like the whole "grindlewald wanted to stop world war 2 and all the wizards were like noooo, don't do thaaaat" and her signing off on the _insane_ levels of goblin/antisemitic crossover bullshit in hogwart's legacy, so i think the idea of exploring anything outside of the main story that was told before she went off the deep end of right wing fearmongering is pretty much out of the question unless you work for like, the daily wire's film company or whatever? which is really a shame, because i would love to see the wizarding world _out_ of her control, i would _love_ to see someone redo a lot of the garbage like "one wizarding school for all of africa" and look, while the american wizarding school/indigenous north american stuff is pretty bad i mean, as an indigenous norht american, i gotta say... it tracks, like, it is definitely how i think american wizards would name their wizarding school lmfao. but it _is_ definitely offensive. sorry for rambling.
Dear Hollywood,
We are tired of the same story being told for decades. Also, action and CGI and special effects can’t replace a great story with good characters. Sincerely, the whole world
Couldn't have said it best 😂
They're not gonna listen coz genuinely terrible movies can still make profit. That's been Hollywood's goal for decades
Dear KelsoRockz,
Thank you for your honest and insightful comment. We here in Hollywood always appreciate hearing from the fans. Of course, our first priority is to YOU, the fans, and not our Billionaire Investors who have the final determination of whether any of us will have a job come tomorrow morning.
Currently, we are working on some spectacular scripts that are both New and Exciting!
Hahaha! Just kidding! Nothing we make in the next 20+ years will be New or Exciting.
Literally EVERYTHING we create going forward will be a reboot, reimagining, or just a shot for shot remake of some existing IP.
Why, you may ask?
Because F*ck You, that's why! We don't work for you! We work for BILLIONAIRES! We realize that you may spend money on our products, and ultimately YOU are the ones who "pay the bills" around here, but never forget...
The Billionaires pay us BEFORE you ever even see the first scene of any movie we make. That is an important distinction.
This is not to say that we don't care about you, the fans...
But we don't. Just being honest (for once).
While we hope that you will continue to shell out your hard earned money for the crap we produce, in the end, we just don't care.
We get paid either way! Hahahaha!
Suck on that, Mr KelsoRockz! Hahaha!
Sincerely,
Hollywood
This message has fallen on deaf ears unfortunately. Hollywood is up their own ass and they don’t care.
honestly the funniest thing about james bond is how checked out daniel craig is. you can tell he's just there to collect a paycheck most of the time. watching the first knives out movie was so wild for me because he was giving like 120% compared to the bare minimum he's doing in most of the bond movies. hilarious
This!! 100% this! I mostly knew Daniel Craig for his roles as James Bond, so imagine my astonishment when I watched Knives Out. I had no idea this guy was such a good actor. He's incredible, and it was very, VERY enjoyable to watch.
that's why it took 15 years to make 5 movies, Craig was so burned out after Skyfall and they gave him alot of time to collect himself and he still wasn't really thrilled at doing another movie so he was given quite a bit of creative freedom and oh yeah a drinks truck of cash to come back
They should have moved on from Craig after Skyfall - that was the right exit.
So I’m 100% behind Amanda’s idea: Redemptions instead of remakes. Was technologically not able to support your concept? Was great technology and concept failed by an inept director or casting agent/cast? Prove it! Fix the “issues” and redo it right!
I feel like the better tv successor for Charlie’s Angels was She Spies.
I agree as well. The problem is that instead of using a proven success, it would be taking a risk on a proven failure, and Holleywood just does not like taking risks
@@bramverbist8325The ironic thing about that is thanks to the nauseation, reboot strategy is far more risky than going all into giving a new promising project a chance.
Redemption isn't exactly popular with shareholders tho. All they care about is short-term cash grabs that look good in the next financial report. Even if those movie concepts were never given a chance to begin with Hollywood looks at them as failed IPs and Investing in something that is proven not to sell is the least they want to do. To summarize the creative process of mass media: monkey-brain happy when stonks go up.
This is why I think Twilight would actually be an okay thing to reboot. Those movies were popular, fun, had a lot of potential, and ultimately were not very good, which is the perfect recipe for a reboot.
I have a gut feeling that the Harry Potter series won't be that good
Was the franchise ever good, or overrated thrash... I'm getting tired of getting positive comments about Harry Potter, I'm an anarchist and I consider JK to be a bougoiuse bitch
@@Tacom4ster it was good for a while then become overrated
@@yamisukihiro4132without the rose tinted glasses, it feels just exhausting how inconsistent the series really was
@@Tacom4ster Cry less
@@yamisukihiro4132 Nah
Just a side note: The "Planet of the Apes" franchise has been in existence since 1968. There was a television series in the early seventies as well.
I think its because the new movies are spread out and tell a different story, and the tones are so dissimilar. Also they are actually good movies, cant say that for these other franchises tho
"Bigger equals better" is what really killed many good frenchises. Like Alien 1, it was more intimate with the audience, really trying to handcraft a world for you and each action against the enemy had weight. Mowing down hoards of them isnt better then handcrafted scenario with meaning!
It infested many many other movies unfortunately..... Im missing the small scale scenarios, delivers way more content then bloated wars with no soul.
And what probably adds to it is when the characters are either overpowered or have endless plot armor this making the stakes very low to non existent
@@devonmunn5728 Its just so lazy!
Do they even enjoy making movies?
Excellent point. Stories about saving the entire country / planet / universe might feel like high stakes for the first time, but when the universe needs saving every other movie, the whole thing just loses its luster.
I agree with some of your conclusion, but Aliens is a bad example. Aliens switched up the formula in order to use it to say something different, but it was still ultimately a deliberate movie that constructed its themes with gravity and consequences.
The marines went in thinking this would be a simple 'bug hunt', confident that their training and technology would carry the day, and by the midpoint of the film we're down a bit over half the entire cast. Leaving us with a small squad of survivors holed up in the ruins of the LV246 colony as the xenomorphs closed in.
And know what, that's a good thing. The worst thing that could ever have been done with the Xenomoroph was making the entire universe revolve around it, and yet that's what the alien franchise has done.
It's taken this creature, that is mostly a threat due to corporate hubris, and made it the 'perfect being' that Weyland-Yutani is utterly obsessed with attaining at every turn.
@@Bustermachine None of the other movies impacted cinema culture like the first.
And im not a fan, but i get why its so beloved.
It feels like in the rest of the franchise they had a much biggee budget but they missed the point.
The "Home Alone" movies deserve an honourable mention. The first two with Macaulay Culkin are undeniable classics, but everything afterwards has been the same old tired formula. The most recent movie tried to spruce things up by making the burglars sympathetic, but it backfired by making you root for them over the obnoxious kid protagonist.
omg yess!! The rest without Macaulay are difficult to watch 😅
@LambdaIsLoveDeltaIsLife In 2021, Disney Plus released "Home Sweet Home Alone", starring Archie Yates, AKA the British kid from "JoJo Rabbit" in the Kevin Mcallister role. It was a massive flop, and the only decent thing it accomplished was having Buzz cameo as a police officer.
Yes and American Pie too. That "series" is a mess
@@trinaqThat one was laughably bad 😂 are we to believe Kevin is still 10? It's a different Kevin? Okay I guess 😂
@@rahbeeuh The main kid is named Max in the sixth movie, so luckily he's not supposed to be Kevin. However, Kevin is mentioned by Buzz in his cameo, who states that Kevin often claims that houses are being burgled just to mess with his brother.
The ending of Toy Story 3 felt like a fitting conclusion, with Andy accepting that he has to grow up, and giving Woody, Buzz and the others to Bonnie. The fourth movie was alright, but still felt unnecessary. However, with the announcement of a FIFTH installment, it just feels dragged out, especially since Woody is no longer with the other toys.
Yeah, a lot more people watched and liked the fourth movie. I never watched it and never will but it can be the most movie of all time and would still be unnecesary
If they wanted to have Woody find Bo again, they did not need to make a whole 4th movie out of that. He could’ve stayed with Bonnie and then they show in the credits of Toy Story 3 a few pictures of like woody meeting Bo again because she was sold in a yard sale to Bonnie. And a few other pictures showing the toys all having a fun time. Then they show one final picture after the credits scene of the whole group standing there taking a big photo together. The end.
Frr, as a kid born after the first 2 came out (2004), after I had watched the first two and the 3rd one came out it really felt like a full circle ending to the franchise. And then the massive gap between the 3rd and 4th didn’t help bc now i had left Toy Story in my childhood (I was 14 when the 4th one came out). And was solid with its ending, but I guess I only watched the 4th one for nostalgic reasons and it didn’t really feel like a good conclusion to the franchise as the 3rd one did.
i was 12 or so when toy story came out, so i kinda liked it, but was *just* too old for it to really be a huge part of my childhood, was straight up a teenager when toy story 2 came out so really only ever passively saw it babysitting, but i remember getting hammered and watching toy story 3 with a long time long distance friend who was visiting and we just _wept_ through the _whole ending,_ it was so poignant and i absolutely fully agree with you that it feels like him giving bonnie all the toys *SHOULD* be the ending of the series _but..._
look at it from disney's perspective. him giving the toys to bonnie is actually them just setting it up for more sequels. a whole new chapter with a whole new character! it's pinky and the brain and elmyra now and you're gonna love it, kids! which just. bleh lmao. it really should have stopped with them getting handed off, but there's still mileage in that there space suit, and if tom hanks won't play ball, he's got like what, 6 brothers who all sound just like him and _they_ all got kitchens to remodel. tim allen? shit, if you let him inject some kinda redpill bullshit in there, he'll practically work for free. they can milk this shit forever lol
I don’t even consider 4 a movie. Toy Story had 3 films and that’s it. 4 is just a nothing money grab and nothing can change my mind.
The story ended with 3 that’s it
Normally my line is: "If you want it to die, don't go watch the crap" - but there are too many cases these days, where flop after flop happened and the studios keep churning out films or TV shows in the franchise. No idea here...are those films making their money on bluray and streaming? Through commercial breaks when broadcasted or sold abroad?
But at the end of the day, we can claim "everyone hated xyz" - but you only need 100 million people to spend 10 dollars on their ticket and you get the success of Aladdin or so. 100 million sounds a lot, but that is just 25 million families if mom, dad and the kiddies go. Disney won't care if 8 BILLION people hated it ^^ (which I am pretty sure didn't hate it of course)
I got no problem with Disney despite some box failures, I personally really love the movie ‘Elementals’ . It seems very creative and showed us something more interesting that fairytale which seemed logical considering the failure of the movie « Which » . As for franchises, « Jurassic World » seems to have creative stories as we saw with the spinoff « Cretaceous Camp » which is about to have a sequel but with the « Terminator » franchise, despite introducing a new story and a new future in « Dark Fate » , it the same story over and over also with the same kind of climax .
all of these were such great picks to talk about never ending franchises. massive kudos to you man. if there were anymore to talk about (other than star wars and the mcu of course), it would be predator, transformers, and home alone. and speaking of film franchises having obscure animated spin off shows, i just found out that theres a jurassic world animated series out there. end all suffering...
What confuses me the most about the Harry Potter reboot series is: what are they going to do about merch? what about the theme parks? what about the WB studios tour in London? They can’t completely erase the movies because they’re still very significant in pop culture and generate a ton of money. The theme parks and merch are licensed for the movies specifically and use the voices and likenesses of the movie’s characters. When the series comes out will they just have two competing adaptations? Who would buy TV Harry’s wand when movie Harry’s wand is right there? They’re setting up the series for failure already just by comparison.
You know I had never thought about this and you’re right. The movies ARE Harry Potter to most of the population. The actors and set design and props are fully fleshed out. How can they make a new Hogwarts that looks wholly different from the movie depiction? It just wouldn’t be Hogwarts. I don’t understand this reboot at all
They'll be hoping everyone who bought the merchandise will go out and buy everything again but with different faces on 😂
omg as a Potterhead, I didn't thought about it. I know I wouldn't buy a merch from the TV show when I grew with the other version. And most children ( who could grow with the new tv show ) already know the previous adaptation ( i live near a primary school and a lot of them already have HP clothes or backpack ). I think they're going to keep the same aesthethic but then what's the point. It's really stupid. If they wanted us to go back to hogwarts, why not a marauders tv show ?
I didn’t even think about this but you’re absolutely right. Everything is already set up in parks across the world. Now they’re just making an even stupider business practice by having to remake everything.
@@hikaru78- a Marauders show would’ve been a much better idea… but the same could be said about Fantastic Beasts and we all know how it all went (or still going? Are they still making the rest of the movies?)
What do you MEAN there was an animated Fast and Furious TV show with 6 seasons in 2 years
I never heard a single thing about it until now
When you rank all the DreamWorks shows someday you’ll have to cover it.
@@ajzeg01I haven’t gotten to that part yet, it was made by dreamworks????
@@coalkingryan881 dreamworks makes a lot of universal studio movie spinoff shows, now that I think about it. they made that jurassic park one as well
I sense a future video.
There was/is also a kids' TV show for Jurassic World. It's entertaining enough to be watchable, but it's not good.
Netflix also made an animated Jurrassic World spin-off show - Camp Cretaceous. They made a ton of seasons pretty fast. It was obviously aimed ar kids but was surprisingly good and far better than the Jurassic World movies.
In general, Jurasic Park 1 was good because it was based on an AMAZING book. Lost World's book was written between movies 1 and 2, so it wasnt as strong because of the movie's influence and was immediately turned into the 2nd movie, although the movie was MUCH more loosely based on the 2nd book. I think the lack of pre-planning and meticulous editing a novel goes through is what sank the rest of rhe film series. They were all based on trying to attract audiences and make money rather than focusing on telling an amazing story.
U said live action Aristocats and my heart broke...that animation was a classic...like really classic...a live action will shit on that legacy 😢
Same with The Hunchback 9f Notre Dame. Oh I am calling it that they are going to make Frollo sympathetic.
One of the most painful things about Charlie's Angels is that it _had_ a successful... well not a franchise but a very-clearly-inspired-by animated series in Totally Spies so we even know it's doable, Hollywood just can't do it.
Same thing happened with The Kingsmen; Hollywood see the numbers and act like “people are tired from heros/spies/witches/vampires” when in reality we’re tired of seeing bland and uninspired crap being tossed on screen hoping the brand name alone makes it a hit.
I loved the movies they were great spite the drama surrounding Bill Murray and Lucy Liu.
totally spies was so good too. I loved that show as a kid.
@@zombie_dancer2836 Totally Spies has a reboot. It’s being released next year as season 7, but the producer counts it as a reboot, since the girls will be back in high school, move to a new city, and there will be updates, BUT it’s supposedly gonna keep to the original charm that made the show iconic.
@@BeccasaurousRex270 That's awesome. I'll be keeping my eye out for that :)
It's frustrating but not suprising to see studios prioritize cashing in on established brands over taking risks on new ideas and stories.
In theory, all sequels can make some sense as long as the premise of good versus evil is something that still exist in that world. For example: hero spends three movies, trying to kill villain, then finally kills villain, but if they didn’t defeat, the concept of evil itself meaning, they didn’t essentially destroy the ability to even become evil than in theory there’s always logical possibility that is almost inevitable that a new villains and new problems will show up eventually. 🤔
Yeah it makes sense, since they don’t respect film at all, why make a great movie that’s not guaranteed to make a lot of money as opposed to a dog water movie thats makes bank
Cough *Disney making live action remakes instead of making more owlhouse* Cough
Honestly, I wouldn't even mind studios prioritizing established brands IF they could just be f*cking bothered to do something fun and interesting with it. Like, the original idea for Fantastic Beasts was great, a fun adventure series about monsters set in the Harry Potter universe, but with different characters and taking place in a different time period. That is a phenomenal concept that uses the established brand but goes in a different direction with it. But that series tanked so hard (both creatively and financially) when they tried turning it into a direct Harry Potter prequel.
Yes well when they take the risk they usually end up losing, so they take the safe, bet. If people would stop spending their money on reboots and remakes, then maybe they would listen! They’re not gonna listen to people whining on the Internet, but they will listen to where people spend their money.
Indeed we live in a CAPITALIST WORLD 🔥🔥🔥🔥🔥
This video made me realize how much I love the 2000s Charlie’s Angels that I went out and bought it… and watch all two movies in one go 😂. Thanks for the video!
Soooo on point in every single one of those takes. Thank you!!
I think the only franchise that truly deserves a reboot/revival is Percy Jackson. The movies we got never did justice to the original and unlike most other IPs, fans have *actually* been asking for it to be redone. Not only that, but Rick Riordan is very obviously taking his time with the show, being involved in every step of the way. It truly feels more like a passion project than a cash grab and because of that I think it's one of the few of these revival projects that will actually be good. I just hope it won't underperform due to people being so exhausted of reboots.
I wouldn’t put much faith in Rick. His work I feel was never as good after the first Percy Jackson series, and even then it had some weird continuity errors. I do want the adaptation to be good, but I just have no faith in it
"yes, yes, that's nice and all
buuut.."
presses the giant red harry potter button
The Dark Tower.......😐
Here's the thing. Not all books even need a fucking movie. Maybe the problem wasnt that they didnt do justice to the books. Maybe the problem was that they felt the need to turn the books into movies, solely on the basis that adaptations have historically been profitable.
Eragon.
It is a holy miracle that Back to the Future hasn’t had a sequel, spinoff, reboot, remake or TV show made yet. I had met one of the writers at Comic Con several years ago and asked if we’ll ever see a fourth movie and his answer was “We will never see a sequel as long Zemeckis breathes on this earth.” But let’s not be naive, Universal WILL make a fourth BTTF movie that will be the starting point of a 5 movie franchise that will crash before it even starts
I know...and _oh_ I'm dreading that day.
There is a BTTF series. It came out back in 1991 and had 2 seasons.
@@perreinn8432 And a BTTF comic
I vaguely remember a cartoon TV show of BTTF. Could be a childhood fever dream though 😂
@@WilliamTice that show was good
Really enjoyed that. Thank you.
Robocop already got a reboot with the movie from 2014 that I completely forgot about until my girlfriend reminded me of it when I asked if she'd seen the movies while I was playing Rogue City. I love the originals (except the third movie), and hearing there's going to be ANOTHER one, blows my mind and annoys the hell out of me.
The problem with rebooting/remaking popular movies and TV shows is that they're at a disadvantage by default, as audiences will naturally compare them to the original, making it harder for the new projects to win people over.
It's been pretty obvious for awhile (for me the last Jedi) that Hollywood simply Will not reform itself. It has all of the ability in the world, but that's not what it's owners want from it.
Just like so many industries, what the billionaires want and what the average person wants is so far removed from each other, that the average person HAS to disengage.
Yea the same thing happened with man of steel and amazing spiderman
Luckily there is enough pre ~2010 films to last a lifetime. Forget all this new rubbish.
@@Weird.Dreams If you only focus on major franchises and Hollywood blockbusters, sure. But there are plenty of original movies coming out every year
Actually the problem with reboots and continuations is that they try to capture the same magic with the same formula that made the original successful.
Also the actors themselves tend to be irreplaceable which is a problem Marvel Studios actively tried to resolve
For me, it's Star Wars. What once was the most magical franchise to ever exist and the inspiration to a whole generation of filmmakers, is now a soulless cash cow for the biggest corporation in Hollywood.
Yeah. I think I'm going to go back and reread the old EU books I grew up with. As far as I'm concerned Disney era Star Wars has been a bunch of overpriced fanfic.
Andor is decent, though. :)
George LUKE us, selling Tatooine and Aldaaran to the Emperor.
There's still some hope for Star Wars yet. TBoBF, Kenobi, and season 3 of Mando pretty much all sucked, but Andor was incredible. There's a good chance the Ahsoka series will turn out good as well
I feel like Marvel is the exact same. There was some charm back in the day, but now every movie feels boring and repetitive.
In defence of Jurassic Park 3 the film took a much different approach than the first, the first being adventure/sci-fi and 3 being an action/sci-fi. 3 had many more horror/thriller based elements and was aimed at a more adult audience. The acting and effects were also great despite a basic narrative.
The unwitting message Hollywood is giving imo is "there are no happy endings, you will struggle until life is done with you then you will fall and all that you built will crumble into ash.
We seriously need a part two of this. Hollywood will not rest until every single franchise is available on IMAX.
For reals
Not really. Part 2 could only include Star Wars and MCU, both of which would be beating a dead horse.
@@SirBlackReeds Harry Potter to start in part 2 of this video
@@SirBlackReeds They could bring up Transformers but I would argue against it being a "hollywood franchisee that refuse to die" Considering the series has always had different universe and series with each team putting their own spin on things like the political and violence of the idw comics, the popcorn of bayfilms, the classic of g1 or the attempt of a big series with the aligned continuity that include the games. It's less of a hollywood thing and more of a small scale everything else series. They could cancel any future movies and it will still keep going.
we need a franchise of this video 🤣🤣
"Fate the Winx saga was cancelled two seasons in" hit me like a truck
Not because it got cancelled, but because the second season released at all
Hahahshshshahahah
Apparently the winx saga got a LOT better in s2!!
@@princessmanitari4993 guess the damage was done bc s1 was so shit and all the hate-watching of s1 wasn't effective in fostering morbid curiosity.
I am fumbfounded by it's excistance. Looks like a generic "dark" teen series, if it don't look like you are overdosing on pixie sticks and glitter then it don't look like Winx.
SAME
I agree with most of what you said, but I have to say: the way you changed from 4th to 3rd (with the "I'm lying!, Toy Story!"), I had to pause the video because I just started laughing so hard I couldn't keep watching. 🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣
Anyway, it was a good way to start 2024. :D
Happy New Year and hope everything goes well for everyone. :)
I think that’s Fast & Furious died Movie 4, became Paul Walker die as the movie. Went from low classic people with bit of, a criminal background to super hero working for.
The government and people on the top and just adding, new people to the roster and becoming good people.
As a film student, constantly hearing about Hollywood's never-ending cash grab remakes seriously sucks my soul out. I really want to make at least a small mark with story ideas that come from my heart, but the current state of the film (and TV) industry is very disillusioning for me.
agreed :'-0
There are still a lot of small indie films getting made, the big budget cash grabs take away most of the attention but there are always smaller gems out there. Beau is Afraid just got made and that’s one of the most unique visions ever put to film. There is some hope left.
On the upside, we're seeing UA-camrs with a Patreon starting to be able to raise the funds to make their own film projects. Corporate cinema is stagnating, but maybe that just means a new front is opening up.
stop writing to be famous
Might as well go indie
Matt Damon was asked about lack of new ideas in movies during a Hot Ones show, & he said the reason is because of the downfall of DVD's. He said half of the revenue made on movies used to come from DVD sales, & when that went away, Hollywood only wanted to finance movies they knew would make a profit.
Yep. And ironically, the downfall of buying movies is mostly the industry’s fault. When DVDs, which allowed people to have ownership of movies, were supplanted by digital delivery, corporations refused to implement proper ownership and instead pushed the “you’re only renting it” angle ultra hard. They also made digital ownership far worse than DVD ownership by forcing everyone in mutually-incompatible walled gardens.
As it turns out, people don’t like being eternal renters or being restricted to a cloud account for their ownership, so they just stopped buying movies outside of cinemas.
You could fix this by introducing a legally mandatory digital ownership system that guarantees simple access to digital property rights, but if you pitched that idea in congress 70% of them would decry it as communism or something.
I miss the days when you could just buy DVDs at grocery stores and gas stations. It used to be normal, but in my country today is it non-existent.
DVD’s are superb as you own it and can watch it any time you want unlike streaming services. I hope they don’t reboot Apocalypse Now.
@@vestavind Interesting. Here in Gemany i still see them at some places.
@@Blaze6108That’s why we need to dismantle the government and the giant corporations.
"All things end, Dante. Even us."
-Son of Sparda, Vergil, 2020~
Just found your channel. This 51 minutes FLEW by. It was a really well done video with excellent narration. I am subscribing to check out more.
I'm not nearly the cinephile you appear to be, but I enjoy movies and I will say I dont know of a movie franchise that were ever better than their original 2 or 3 films. You made a great point of how a lot of these movies were PERFECT for their time, be it the 70s, 80s, 90s, 2000s and re-doing them because Hollywood is basically lazy and cant come up with anything better / new. I refused to see Toy Story 4 when my wife and kid went to see it, the story ended PERECTLY with the toys nearly being incinerated thanks to an asshole Bear, before being saved and then taken to begin a new of play.
One exception for me is the Jurassic Park franchise. I love all of them. What can I say, I like watching people try to contain Dinosaurs before they get inevitably released, go on a killing spree before fighting each other while the hero's get away. Then they completely forget about what happened the last time they tried it and the up the ante with bigger, newly created Dinosaurs, cause what could go wrong this time? Maybe it brings back the kid in me that loved Dinosaurs, but I still love that franchise.
Finally, one series I keep waiting for them to either Reboot or find new ways of doing is the Saw franchise. Let that one go...it's been done, let's move on.
The Toy Story reboot hurts the most. For kids who grew up with the films, the ending in 3 was perfect. Literally put into film the exact thing we were all feeling watching it. Almost a coming of age experience. Then they brought it back for what was not necessarily an awful film like a lot of these reboots are, but just soulless and sad. It was such obvious nostalgia baiting, it wasn’t even trying to tell a “Toy Story”, it was just saying “hey, remember these films from when you were kids?”
Did you watch the six hour long video? I sure did and agree.
yeah i watched the first 3 in elementary school and i refuse to watch the 4th
Haha same
What about Mary Poppins reboot?
But they have to be retold for "modern audiences"....🙄
One of the most annoying things about this is that there’s so many stories out there that deserve to be made into movies/shows. There’s so many books/short stories that I’ve read and thought “wow this would be an amazing story to develop into a movie/show”. But no. Just a reboot of something that already exists.
Honestly, I also want less adaptations. I’m craving for truly original IPs
@@lnt305exactly no more books to movies just a original show
Adaptations themselves are quite common since the origin of filmmaking. As long as movies have been made there's been adaptations
But i haven't heard of those books and short stories. I don't read. I only want things i've already seen.
I could also get behind that! There's so much creativity out there that deserves a platform@@lnt305
This was the best commentary! So on point!
As a screenwriter and musician, have experienced studios and record companies not wanting originality but wanting the same but different
The part that hurts most, and a notion I've heard other people echo, is that there are tons of original projects not getting attention because of stories we've already heard that happen to make these corporations a crap ton of money. I don't want more reboots or adaptations, UNLESS that reboot or adaptation is going to significantly alter the story in a compelling way or try a different artistic medium. If that aspect is not present in the project, it shouldn't be done.
To be fair, some people are successful enough to break the trend. Specifically looking at Christopher Nolan, who regularly is given 100-200 million dollars to make unique projects. Also, I absolutely agree about your thoughts on reboots and adaptations. One good example is The Batman, which is a well shot, well acted, interesting take on a well known character. Meanwhile, every other franchise is just chasing their most popular entry without trying to move beyond it.
The fact is people dint magically get tired of these. The bad writing and woke nonsense finally drove them away.
I so agree, especially if the original project was successful and managed to capture the potential of the concept and story. If something already got the meaning across successfully, why do it again?
I know Warner's was talking about a series of movies based on the Dragonriders of Pern. I wish they would get on the ball with it.
Toy Story 3: a fantastic end on an individual level, as a trilogy, AND in the meta context that thematically addresses every possible emotion the audience could be feeling and is literally perfect
Toy Story 4: Here's a spork
Wait until you hear about Toy Story 5
that movie is about a kid’s unhealthy relationship with some objects. it’d be different if he knew that those objects loved him, but he doesn’t. and that kid is NOT ready for college btw
yeah i couldnt fucking finish toy story 4, i was a kid when the first couple of movies came out, and a teenager during toy story 3, but like it did not need a 4th movie, that shits boring as hell.
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Don't get me wrong, "Casino Royale" is my favorite Bond movie of all times. I like "down to earth" feeling of it, music (which is great in almost a all Bonds), struggling, unwanted hero vibe and of course Mads Mikkelsen part (I might or might not be biased by his role in it because he is my favorite actor). It is exaggerated action movie but I love it. All the next movies get too much "franchise" feeling to it but Craig's Bond is still my favourite one. I think if all movies had separate plots, not linked to other films, it will be better.
Tony's boys sounds like an alternate universe thing
Amanda had it right. Take movies that had great concepts but weren't executed well and bring those to the forefront. I love to see a redo of a movie like In Time (Justin Timberlake and Amanda Seyfried) that was such a good dystopian concept but just needed to be more fleshed out.
I was thinking about the same movie 😂
@Medeah Slytherclaw thank god😭 cuz idk how many people saw that movie. I still watch it cuz it's such a good concept but I always have so many questions. It could be a great dystopian duology or trilogy.
I was thinking of League of Extraordinary Gentlemen. I feel like that movie had the perfect idea but horrible execution and totally deserves a re-make.
My beloved series from childhood was Eragon and then the movie... Ugh.
This is how I feel about the Disney remakes as a whole. There are some movies in their filmography that had AMAZING concepts (Atlantis or Brother Bear) or were based on good IPs (The Black Cauldron), but either were poorly executed, or were alright, but could have been made better. There is no need to remake movies that we well executed, well made, successful the first time around.
The fact that Hollywood would rather take already existing IPs (some of which ended perfectly like Toy Story or HP) and bring them back just because they
1. Can’t come up with anything new
2. Don’t Care enough to hire aspiring writers and directors who have been pitching their show forever and would rather make shows they know would be awful
And 3. Don’t trust the consumer to watch something new that isn’t tied to and existing franchise
Makes me want to smash my head into the wall until I look like Abraham from TWD.
Ironically TWD is now becoming a tv show universe
Perfectly said
You literally mentioned the real issues of Hollywood unlike some people who screams woke garbage instead of analyse the real issues going.
I don't care about the little mermaid being black, I'm simply tired of Disney lazy live action remake especially after Pinocchio
I have to completely disagree with everything you’re saying. I think the only reason they make reboots is because they make money. Hollywood is a business, all they care about is making money, people are more willing to spend their money on IP they’re familiar with than IP they’re unfamiliar with. If people would start taking risks and stop spending their money on reboots and remakes, then they will listen. They’re not gonna listen to people, whining online, when people are still spending their money on reboots and remakes.
Correction for number 1, they REFUSE to hear new voices/stories
Fast and furious is it's on whole universe lmao
My favourite reboot out of anything i've seen is Ghostbusters Afterlife. The first two Ghostbusters are so fun (i haven't seen the 2016 one) and I had such a fun time watching Afterlife even with limited knowledge of the ghostbusters movies at that time. I'm also quite excited for Frozen Empire in march (even if they're just going back to New York again but the concept of the icy ghosts seems fun) cause I feel like it has the potential to continue to be a really good reboot if they expand the world a bit more, like adding new ghost concepts or being in new settings.
I literally shouted NOOOOO when you mentioned 'Parasite,' and my heart sunk at the announcement of 'Beetlejuice 2.' It's disheartening to see these companies refusing to embrace anything new and instead relying on milking established franchises. They should invest in paying their writers to come up with fresh stories and series. Their uncreative greed seems to sabotage the potential for new concepts and stories, ultimately affecting the audience's willingness to accept and embrace innovation.
parasite being americanised when one of the movie's theme is the idealisation of america from koreans is.... YIKES
Have you seen whose writing their stories? These writers couldn't write themselves out of a paper bag. Paying them to make original IPs wouldn't solve anything.
@@SirBlackReeds I don’t think the problem is writers but how they’re treated. I mean just look at the writers strike going on now. They aren’t paid well, they aren’t given big enough voices, etc. I don’t think the problem is any shortage of new ideas. It’s that Hollywood doesn’t want to take risks and trust that audiences will get invested in new stories.
@@zeppelinzeppelini it also feels like its being remade because americans/westerners cant possibly see themselves relate to what parasite is telling just bc its in a different setting and language to them
Parasite is one of my all time favourite movies. It is utterly brilliant in its storytelling. Americans need to get over their fear of subtitles and watch the original.
I'm 100 percent convinced that they are not making movie reboots at Disney because they think they need it or we want it, but because it's an effective way to dodge the fact many of their IPs are about to fall to the public domain because they're old enough now. Even a bad movie will get views and make money, and the cost of production is worth keeping the copyright alive and in their hands.
I don't think Moana is in any danger off becoming public any time soon ...
@@viddork Yeah feels like the Rock just salty his Black Adam bombed. Moana isn't even 1 decade old yet to warrant a remake/reboot.
Most of the remake were of movie that are still decade from being public domain. When it comes to Moana and Frozen, people who were kids when those came out are literally still kids.
Ouah, I've never thought of that, you are brilliant!
the copyright will still fall into public domain no matter how many reboots they make though
Have subscribed and liked. Love from England.
The pop culture stagnation is, quite honestly, baffling...
For me, Toy Story 4 was the worst thing to happen to the franchise. TS3 ended perfectly, bringing many people to tears with the bittersweet scene of Andy giving his toys to Bonnie, and seeing how the little girl loved Woody so much. So, making a movie where Woody is discarded and forgotten, and wanting to leave his child was hypocritical to the other 3 movies. My brother and I just compared the movie to a fanfic. From the story, the characters, the dialogue, and the jokes, everything seemed like fanfic that can be read on Wattpad.
While TS3 the pinnacle of the franchise for me and I'm happy if that was where it ended. I still have a soft spot for TS4, genuinely. Key & Peele as Bunny and Ducky were hilarious, but especially the return and evolution of Bo Peep. While Forky were meh, and Buzz Lightyear were demoted to a clown jock in that film (because Tim Allen?), I still at least enjoyed the film.
TS5 tho... I just don't understand.
I fully agree😊
TS4 angers me endlessly. The ending undoes the original three movies worth of character development for all the toys!!
I jave never seen Toy Story 4, and I never will. Toy Story 3 was the perfect ending and farewell to the franchise.
I don't know what you're talking about- there's only three Toy Story movies, the story ended with TS3 🤧
Someone wrote a small review titled “The Importance of the End”, which talks about how important The End used to be to a story. The idea that this is the final time we are going to be in this world, being with the characters, and seeing how it all ends was a reward in their own right. Take Back to the Future for example, a trilogy that has remained finished for decades and is remembered fondly for it.
It also talked about how when an actor, book, or series makes a return after the supposed final, it’s taking away from impact of the final installment had and its relevance. Even if some loophole is found to try and make the final stay final, it still takes away from its importance because the end is supposed to be “The End”.
I would like to read this. Do you know where I can find it?
I think it can be frustrating just for the fact that..the story is told. As Kevin Smith once said, "haven't we seen everything we need to know about Beetlejuice?" More than anything, it's the irrelevance of the things that come after. Indiana Jones is a good example..I don't even hate the Crystal Skull. It's fine..but...who cares? Indy's character arc is done through the first three movies, and anything after just reaches the "oh here's how han got his jacket" territory.
@Malik The Star Wars sequels are the worst for this. Leia has apparently been fighting the same war for 30 years and its the most depressing thing ever.
@@Illersvansen In my opinion, the sequel trilogy is not canon and only the first 6 movies are canon.
@@Rishi123456789 *first 3 movies
It's not the franchises that's the problem, it's that there's no passion behind the vision. Deadpool is a passion project, and the passion leaks through, and we love it. Dune as well, first Wonder Woman is, but the second has so little passion it's a paint by numbers project
I wish the 21 Jump Street crossover would've happened. It's the perfect next step for the Jump Street movies.
Hollywood won’t let franchises die a dignified death meanwhile Netflix cancels any original tv series after *ONE* season 😑 So fans need to watch the shows constantly on repeat for the following 4-6 weeks to increase the chance of a second season.
i remember the scramble of good omens s2 where everyone was rewatching and getting their families to watch it and making new accounts to watch it because everyone was worried amazon prime would trash it before the conclusion to spite neil gaiman during the writers strike (+ G-G-G-G-GAY!!!!!!). pretty weird stuff honestly, the only way to keep a show alive is to form a cult for it and keep the number goin up
i'm pretty sure execs have admitted they don't care about watch time. they make renewal or cancellation decisions based not on whether it was good or liked or if people watched it but whether they think they're likely to get more sign ups if they renew or not.
The Dark Crystal: Age of Resistance 😭😭😭
She said it perfectly. Well done and successful movies should be left alone. Terrible movies that had a good concept or where the original lore had a solid foundation should get a reboot
The only reboot that was way better than the original was battlestar galactica.
I just hope nobody ever touch Back to the Future... it would an even bigger disaster than what they did with the female Ghostbusters. Also the last Ghostbusters movie wasn't bad, just let it die right there too.
"They Live" is an iconic film I'd like to see updated. It would have to be not a big studio, so that it gets respect it deserves. We all know the quote, the imagery. However the film is a bit slow for modern audience and could use a bit more character development. As a wrestling fan I can appreciate a good fight, but even I have to admit 10 or whatever minutes of punching takes away from the pace and essence of the plot, like a commercial break in the middle of the film. You get frustrated by the characters like it was a soap and instead of doing the obvious thing, they waste time.
They should reboot Erogon
If you don’t like Chappie, then all of your opinions are invalid
It's odd how the best latest entries to the Alien and Terminator (and Robocop) IP were video games. For Aliens was Alien Isolation (alien dark descent is also an ok game); for Terminator was Terminator: Resistance (it acts as a direct sequel to T2 and ends the trilogy); and for Robocop was Robocop: Rogue City (released a last month)
Terminator TSCC was actually quite a good series that should have continued past its two seasons.
An interesting problem with a lot of these franchise installments -- if they DIDN'T have the franchise name attached, they'd probably have done better without the expectations that come with that. You can make a "dinosaurs in the modern world" movie without it being beholden to the Jurassic Park backstory. You can make a fun hot-girl action flick without having to shoehorn in 50 years of character references and history and make it fit a certain vibe. The argument goes that the franchise name makes it easier to sell, but I think if the marketing was done well, lots of these could have been decent original films, and I think a lot of fans are running out of patience for the rebootmakes
Oh god, this is how I felt about Mean Girls 2 when that came out (which I stress I HAVE NOT watched since, it may not hold up). But I remember thinking it was a decent enough movie, but definitely shouldn't have been fucking Mean Girls 2
That, and if a movie isn't chained to some big name (gotta have cameos and mid-credit teasers and what not) it has more creative freedom.
As for the action girl: I think that characters like Ellen Ripley just changed the game there. Once you've seen a character like that, it gets a lot more difficult to make those pin-up fights in stiletto heels & skin-tight leather outfits palatable.
I'm surprised this man never mentioned transformers in the video lol. Guess it's not that bad
I still think Charlie's angels isn't a product of its time
@@graffiti.777 he only mentioned franchises that were once considered good. ^^
I'm honestly glad that I know there is no way in hell that Disney is ever going to touch Pocohantas from 1995.
"Challenge accepted!"
- chortles the MouseCorpse
@@trazyntheinfinite9895 😂
Dont hold your breath
Maybe they could make it accurate, or remotely close
i wouldnt be so sure as disney seemed fine with rebooting mulan from a perfectly fine movie to one thats riddled with controversy (e.g the filming location being near internment camps and the main actors offensive history)
Now I want a list of movies that had amazing plots/concepts but were executed poorly that really need/deserve a reboot today
Star Wars …. Drive a light saber through it …
Oh wait a minute …. Light sabers don’t hurt people anymore
I think the biggest issue is not that they refuse to let things die, but that they also simultaneously refuse to let them grow.
Even when they make massive changes they are doing so with the intent of replicating the original, not because they have something to say or things to expand from the original. This is just another instance of corporations trying (and failing) to create a "forever product" that they can keep selling us eternally with minimal effort.
Yeah exactly. It's like they dont trust their own work, which shines thru in the presentation.
the only only one succeeding (or not) is japan. they still make new episodes of pokémon and one piece
@@miaya3898they've also been pumping out new Gundam shows since the original in 1979, and they're still fresh and relevant.
In a hilarious twist, it's done this by becoming MORE explicitly left-wing as time goes on, with the latest entry (g-witch) all but chanting "eat the rich!" by the last episode. Apparently deep dives into political science is the gift that keeps on giving.
@@miaya3898 I don't know about Pokemon in this regard, but One Piece is written by just one person, so the vision of the overall work can still be preserved. Japan as a whole is an interesting case study tho.
@@miaya3898They always produce a new Godzilla movie every few years.
Tony's Boys is honestly the most fruity and mafioso name that they could come up with for a spinoff. I love it.
Good countdown, I didn't know about a lot of these! Of the franchises I'm familiar with, I agree with you 💯
I'm surprised that Planet of the Apes didn't make your list. What's your criteria?
Imagine how incredible the MCU would have been if endgame actually was the end… it would go down as one of the most impressive feats of movie making ever. Instead they are intent on beating a dead horse until it goes the way of the western.
What's insane to me is that people say "we wouldn't have remakes if people didn't see them" but even that doesn't stop them. Hellboy 2019 flopped so hard it was pulled from theaters after only a few weeks, but they still announced another reboot this year.
Anything to put the onus on the people see, or don't see, these movies instead of the business making them.
I wonder if the problem comes down to people being unable to conceive that audiences are disinterested in seeing these sorts of remakes. If one succeeds, the studio sees it as proof that everything can be remade. If one flops, the studio sees it as proof that the people they hired to do the job weren't the right people for it, so they'll get new people next go round.
It's because they want to milk every IP for what they can, and potentially make the next MCU.
Making "new" movies is risky. If they just make everything a sequel/reboot to a movie tons of people have already seen, then it's more likely that those people will go see it, even if it's total dogshit.
The studios think as long as they keep throwing shit at the wall, eventually it will stick, and they can make the next big franchise like Marvel.
This trend has potential to bleed them dry though, hopefully they realize this soon and it will die out
If it makes money, they'll keep making new ones. But tbh I don't think any of the titles in this video are on anyone's top list of films to see or even talk about. Charlie's Angels? I mean cmon. Nobody cares, that was a fluke.
I don't know anyone who likes or watches the Disney remakes. And they're still slowly re-creating every entry in the Animated Canon. The only one l can think of that might be good is Hercules. But even then, James Woods shouldn't be touched as Hades. On the other end, if the animal effects continue like in The Little Mermaid, l shudder to think of a live-action of the Rescuers.
Here's the thing with Jurassic Park: Little Kids and dinosaurs have this really odd, spiritual connection. Kids know EVERYTHING about EVERY dinsasour ever made. It's quite an unexplainable connection that has been written about.
Having said that, it's time for Universal to kill that franchise. It's horrible.
agree with you totally
I call the one with the volcano ... fallen kingdom (honestly I don't care enough to go look it up) ... the funniest comedy featuring dinosaurs ever ... because the pyroclastic flow stops at the beach and lets the boat drift away slowly ... and they out run the pyroclastic flow ... on foot ... for MILES ... pyroclastic flows move as fast a NASCAR race car ... you ain't out running that shit on foot ...
@@dragonstooth4223 you should also agree to some correct punctuation
James Bond : just make a tough but fun stand-alone spy flick - it will sell
Yes ❤❤❤❤❤
Alien 3 is still one of David Fincher's best three movies, the other two being Se7en and Fight Club. Loved Prometheus. I am so glad Blomkampf didn't come in to stick a middle finger up at the fans.
The one thing Hollywood doesn't have is original ideas
Oh they have them. They just won't fund them because it's too risky, they sit on them and mistreat the writers and act surprised when they strike.
hollywood do have original ideas and good original movie coming in recent year but nobody watch it, let be real most people go see movie to escape real life, and we tend to want to escape to a familiar place that we know about hence the reboot, adaption, and franchise sequel.
It does have them, they're almost all independent films. 90% of the movies that big studios make are just the most crowd-pleasing ones in ther eyes.
They have had original ideas, the problem is the studios then immediately want to turn them into franchises which drains the life out of whatever good idea existed in the first place.
Hollywood seems mostly full of entitled, arrogant, domineering personalities. Most of whom seem infected by the WMV. They no longer prioritize unique, new IPs, with good plot, writing, and narrative. They seem to prioritize insinuating social issues and ideological/political topics into existing IPs that were once successful.
Personally, I will never underestimate the ability for the James Bond franchise to revive itself. People have been saying that they were over it and that it was long past its glory days ever since the '70s, and yet it still persists and it still makes movies that, contrary to what Dylan says here, were quite well-received. The James Bond franchise supposedly died after Diamonds are Forever in 1971, only for Live and Let Die to come out in 1973, be regarded as good, and revive the franchise; it supposedly died again in 1989 with Licence to Kill, only for GoldenEye to come out in 1995, be regarded as excellent, and revive the franchise; and it supposedly died for good in 2002 with Die Another Day, only for Casino Royale to come out in 2006, be regarded as very excellent, and revive the franchise. My point is that James Bond as a movie franchise has died and been revived more times than your average comic book superhero. In fact, the franchise even addresses this directly by having the struggle to remain relevant in a changing world be the primary theme for Skyfall, which I consider to be the best Bond film of the bunch and is one of my favourite movies of all time. After No Time To Die I think the franchise will have a harder time reviving itself since they decided to take the MCU route and interconnect everything in what had previously been a franchise with mostly self-contained installments, but I wouldn't put it past James Bond to come back stronger than ever because of the fact that it's done it before.
James Bond is somewhat of an exception, since the audience has long since accepted that it's a neverending series which every now and again changes the actors and the tone, may reboot and whatnot. But you're right, the Bond series has been deemed dead several times only to bounce back to relevance.
English people, that’s how
James Bond does it fine, the spy genre doesn’t have too much going on so it’s maintained a niche, it’s not forcing the same continuity over decades, and regularly shakes it up. Certainly not every one is a hit, but I don’t mind it being continually revived. Same sort of thing as Doctor Who (though that has some more continuity/an in-universe reason to reboot). While there’s an overarching brand, they aren’t coasting on the exact same tone/ideas, it really is like comic AUs.
Both James Bond resurrections were done by the same guy - Martin Campbell, who did both GoldenEye and Casino Royale... as soon as he took his hand off the wheel, his good work was buried in trash - first slowly, then with increasing levels of shameless garbage. The Brosnan 4 became sequentially dumber, and then the Craig 4 did the same thing. It's true that real talent is extremely rare.
"No time to die" was possibly the worst experience i had watching a movie in the cinema. it was so horribly loud, i left the theatre with a throbbing headache.
It’s funny to me how someone can say in the same sentence “no one likes these movies”and “these movies keep making money at the box office.”
Some people consume media mindlessly. They just want effects & actions and don't care about creativity or good storytelling. The studios aim at this type of public, but not so many people will actually spend money on a shitty blockbuster nowadays. Hence, box office failures.
@@shanouboubou show me the person that spends money on something they DONT like. Today’s entertainment landscape is crowded. There is an infinite amount of things to spend your time and money on. If the majority of the movie going audience were not interested in a franchise, the box office numbers have shown it.
Good thing in 2023 most of Disney's movies have bombed lately so Disney can stop wasting our time with more remakes and pathetic mcu movies
Never thought about this no wonder sequel and reboot are common nowadays
the thing that annoys me the most about the disney live action remakes - the two movies that actually have a solid chance at working in live action are Atlantis the Lost City and Treasure Planet. they'll probably never capitalize on that because Atlantis and Treasure Planet were monetary flops despite them being very good films.
This ties in with what the woman in the video said, movies with good concepts but were poorly executed or just didn't perform well should get the remake treatment. Essentially a do-over and a 2nd chance at becoming beloved by audiences. But studios are too scared to take a story that had previously failed and instead milk proven successes until audiences can't stand them anymore.
I'm not against Disney doing live action remakes, I just think they should do it for stories like Treasure Planet which aren't that well known and should get a 2nd chance at life, instead of famous and perfectly fine movies like the Little Mermaid.
@@rebecca4680little mermaid makes money also thru toys and merchandise. Those movies are expensive to make/promote and they need to be able to make money thru other ways and be family friendly
If we want some redos of bad Disney movies, they could do remakes of The Black Cauldron, Oliver and Company, Home on the Range, Brother Bear, and Chicken Little should be the ones to get another shot, each for their own reasons.
The Black Cauldron was a super interesting story that was bogged in the box office because it was poorly presented and it was Disney's first PG movie, which hurt it badly.
Oliver and Company was made to look like a modern NYC version of Oliver Twist, but with talking animals. It would be perfect to have the story in Live Action NYC in today's version of the setting.
Home on the Range is unique as it was Dinsey's final 2D movie until Princess and the Frog, and it deserves to be remade into a better version. One with less burping, less toilet humor, and giving more backstory to the villain, Alameda Slim.
Brother Bear needs redone as it had the potential to be something great. But they butchered it with filler and cutting out the part where Kenai tells Koda (spoilers)
And finally, Chicken Little needs to be redone to wipe the stain of Disney's worst animated movie, where it gets things right and doesn't live in Shrek's shadow.
I think one of the biggest problems is that they're making everything for everyone now. So even if they remake/give a sequel you a movie from 20 or 30 years ago, the stories get so hollowed out of any real meaning they end up not appealing to anyone. And everything starts to feel the same and a waste of time to even watch.
I don't really follow, can you elaborate?
I feel ya, but still the box office is amazing cause we all go see it and then they will repeat the same formula. Sooo unless that changes they don't care whether it's actually good or meaningful in our eyes. Also you have to consider that we als film fans do no represent the majority audience.
Damn, I can't shake the "hollowed out" feeling and it's been lingering around for a LONG time.
"James Bond." Me: Thank you for reading my mind. Another one, SAW. One was enough. #LetItDie
The shot of the rock on the beach clapping his hands was perfect “Moana” 🤣🤣🤣🤣
I’ve been a huge Harry Potter fan for almost my entire life and my friend has been a huge Star Wars fan for most of his life. One time we were talking about both our respective franchises and we just looked at each other like I imagine soldiers from the same war would nod at each other when passing by. Then we just collectively groaned and said, “God what have they done.”
You have also grown up and these things should be for children. Adults clinging to these things is part of the problem. Things were good when you were young cause you knew less and now you have experience. The thing I don’t want is woke reboots
@@randomdude189they may have not been great (I think they were), but the rebooting will only serve to make them worse
@@randomdude189 oh my god let people enjoy things, or is that idea too woke for you
I certainly don't mind a proper reboot. Make it 7 seasons instead of 10 (or at best 8 seasons). There are lots of informations that was cut out from the books. 4th and 6th movie were bad because the people incharge didn't care to read the story or give emphasis to main part of the story. While on that regard, 5th movie was better than the 5th book. So, there are definitely some elements that can be used from the movies, but mainly a more accurate set to the books would be good enough.
@@randomdude189 , sorry but there is nothing great coming up or the studios do not want to release something audiences might not like. The costs of making movies and TV are too high for a financial flop.
Not sure how highly you rate the first Despicable Me movie, but it was pretty well received when it came out and at least attempts to have an actual story with heart. The same absolutely can not be said for any of the Despicable Me sequels or Minion movies, the latest of which was so bad that even my 5 year old nephew turned to me in the theater and said he was bored. I rue the day those yellow suppositories started making Universal so much money that my nephew will probably have to suffer through the 30th Minions movie with his own children.
Also - Shrek has to be left the fuck alone in the early 2000's. A reboot would have nothing new to say in a modern entertainment landscape already over stuffed with ironic and self-referential humor.
A reboot of Shrek is a bad idea, but hey, what if they actually have ideas? Puss in Boots 2 came out after 11 years and it's a masterpiece!
Any new Shrek movie will be disowned by the fandom. We already disowned Shrek the Third, we're not afraid to do it again.
Give Rise of Gru some credit. It showed that Gru achieved greatness because he had a strong male figure in his life who gave him guidance. How many Hollywood movies have you seen lately that have that same kind of figure in them, huh?
i have nightmares that dreamworks is bought by disney and they turn shrek into a live action film
@@andiran23 I will concede that PiB The Last Wish was amazing, Puss can get all the movies he wants.
I remember seeing bus stop ads near my high school for that 2011 Charlie's Angels show back then. Nobody saw it lol
great vid, surprised u didnt mention the james bond jnr cartoon series that ran in the 90s
Remember, to a studio an IP isn't a story or a piece of art. It's a commodity that they own. Every piece of media they make with it is an investment. They can't let it die because if they do, their commodity loses its value.
If corporations are people, why do they lack heart
@@cassinipaniniThey aren’t people in the first place, that’s why.
videogames have the exact same problem
Amanda's point about terrible movies with great concepts getting rebooted is an absolute yes for me. If I'd want a reboot, it's that getting rebooted or movies that were misunderstood at it's time getting rebooted. An example of the latter would be May (2002), a horror movie about a woman in her early thirties that's been socially isolated her entire life and eventually snaps and starts killing people to make a doll out of theirs parts to have a friend. At it's time, people were too hung up on the Frankenstein-esque parts of it to really focus on the commentary of how social isolation can absolutely break a person, and I feel like if that movie were to be remade, and with the pandemic being the final thing that snaps the lead, the movie would have hit a lot of people close to home.
Having the movie take place during the pandemic would be a great idea, I think!
Or Police Academy? Why don't they reboot that franchise? Nobody cares about Police Academy. Reboot that instead of classics like Robocop or Total Recall.
I can see why they don't though, once something get a failure brand on it, rebooting wont be the success they hope for. They rather lazily buy up some popular IP and screw up the script enough for it to fail miserably instead in hope they find a new huge franchise.
The smart way is to start small, like Marvel did with Iron man and slowly get fraction with good movies to turn it into a huge IP but that takes hard work and planning and I don't think they really have the imagination for that anymore. Instead they buy up older stuff that used to be popular and rebooting it or as I said, buy up something people love and "adapt" it for movies (change everything so you hardly recognize it and dumb it down so much they can).
They also miss the little fact that if you actually make a good movie, you are losing all the goodwill by releasing a bad sequel or 2, people will watch the first one but after that you are killing off the IP. With a TV series you can have some bad episodes in there as long as some are good but that doesn't really work when you only release the movies every other year and they are expensive to watch. A movie IP is just as good as the last movie, the exception is if you have several good movies, then it takes a couple of bad ones to sink it.
Sometimes I can buy that they thought the movie would be good but it still failed but often they must know it will suck when they read the script and yet they still make them. They really need to learn when not to turn a script into a movie because these failures are both expensive and kills of their IPs at a breakneck speed.
It’s true what you said they just want to latch on to something successful and milk it dry to the point we don’t even want to see the franchise in the future at all . And btw my last one was Tokyo drift and I’m not sorry
“A product of it’s time” is an awesome concept❤ ❤ ❤
There is only 1 three part movie. That is back to the future. Back to the future 2 picks up pretty much immediately where 1 left off, and 3 picks up where 2 did. You can (and I have) watched all 3 movies back to back in one sitting and feel like all you did was watch one particularly long movie. I remember my mum telling me about how annoyed she was when she found out that all three movies had been shot at the same time because she was frustrated by having to wait a year to see what happened after each one. In fact, first time I watched them, she was there and she made me and my brother stick the 2nd and 3rd ones on immediately afterwards unlike what me and my brother planned to do (watch one movie a day over an extended weekend (we had a Bank Holiday Monday)) because she was so frustrated by how the 1st and 2nd movies led into the 2nd and 3rd respectively and she remembered the year long waits between each movie.
I would add that the Lord of the Rings trilogy sure feels like a three part movie. :)
When Return of the King came out, some theatres were actually playing all 3 movies back-to-back-to-back (which was amazing). :
I have never seen lord of the rings so, unfortunately, I cannot give judgement, but I do know that they have good reviews for a reason. But for me, it's just one of those things that the more I say I should watch it and the more people agree that I should, the less likely I am to do so for a very long time.
@@bethanybrookes8479 do yourself a favour… watch those movies!! Watch the extended cut if possible. Just start with the first film… then you’ll feel like you need to watch the other two!!
I actually think it's really sad how so little new ideas in TV get a chance. I am pretty shocked to see how most of the new stuff we see is either based on books, on comics, on other movies and shows, etc. Can no writer develop their own ideas anymore? Where are all the creative minds that were there when television boomed?
There's no simple answer. Avatar 2 had some great concepts Cameron could of worked with. "Would you kill a whale for eternal youth?", "would you colonise another species' homeworld to save the human race from extinction?" In a 3+ hour movie each concept got 1 throw away line each. Art is meant to be edgy, it's meant to challenge you, to make you reflect on yourself and the human condition. It's not art anymore, it's just a product.
Writers can develop ideas.
The problem is that they have a tough time making executives put any money into them.
@@suezuccati304 ....yeah, it's always those bunch who only know how to read a profit chart in their conference room.
@@changsangma1915 their endgame is basically finding a mathematical formula to spit out movies with minimal effort required. If you can find a a+b= money you can just keep making the same movie and profiting off of it np.
Peaky Blinders,Happy Valley and Line of Duty
The irony is, now original IPs are commercial successes while franchise are losing insane amounts of money.
You ever heard the saying 'No one ever got fired for buying Microsoft'? (Back in the day it used to be 'No one ever got fired for buying IBM'.) It's a cynical expression from the IT industry about how, while the best thing is trying something new that works, the _worst_ thing you can be is the employee who tried something new and then it _failed._ Businesses _hate_ that and employees _fear_ that. So you do the thing that everyone else does. You buy Microsoft, because everyone else buys Microsoft. If it works, great, and if it fails, hey - you did everything right! It's not your fault.
Same thing with franchise IPs. Sure, it's great when you try something new and it succeeds. But who the hell is crazy enough to risk that? Why not try another movie in the franchise that's been limping along for _thirty years?_ If it works, great, and if it fails, hey - you did everything right!
@@KillahMate thats not "you did everything right" thats just you lost with everybody else, so you dont have to actually try and can excuse mediocrity with being sheep. if you failed you clearly didnt do everything right, because there are successes that are doing something different, either you fear failing but going all out and prefer to just be like everyone else and not have to feel bad or accountable because "everybody else is doing it",
i agree with you point but the "you did everything right, its not your fault" just seemed so off to me lol it should be "you did what everyone else is doing, so you deserved your failure"
@@KillahMate wait wait wait you just explained why the writers' strike matters! Of course, you can't create good original stories when you have a knife to the throat ! 🤯
Franchises like Fantastic Beasts and the DCU are doing badly, but that’s due to bad writing and studios beating dead horses. Otherwise, franchises and remakes are still the safest bet and still making the most money. Look at Strange World from Disney and that right there explains Toy Story 5, the movie is unique and it bombed. Meanwhile Disney’s highest grossers are still franchises and remakes.
I was legit ready to impatiently say BUT WHAT ABOUT TERMINATOR, right before you said it 😂
One series I really wish they'd try to tackle again is Christopher Paolini's Eragon. The movie had terrible reviews, mostly because it was rushed to fit into a movie in a time where 3+ hrs was rare. It would be the perfect series to get many seasons and be able to build an entire franchise around it.
Paolini just released the fifth book in the series. He's known for taking his time, and the story always shows it. Having him close by to ensure faithfulness would make it One of the most watched series since Game of Thrones.
Completely agree.
I was scrolling for this! For a show like Eragon, a reboot would be justifiable because the series never really got off the ground, and in my opinion, I believed, even way back when, that it would have worked better as a TV show.
But Twilight? Harry Potter? Those are fine! Leave them alone!
Edited to add: LEAVE AVATAR THE LAST AIRBENDER ALONE MY GOD!
I was 12 when the first movie came out. We had read eragon aloud in class the year before, and I loved it. I finished Eldest in the car on the way to watch Eragon in theaters.
Needless to say, I was enamored by the movie the first time around, but I also picked it apart. 17 years later, my mom still remembers me complaining for the entire hour and a half car ride home.
@@McGoofy1001well I’d be mad too if I had to drive for an hour and a half, three hours in total, to go watch a movie just for the movie to be ass
Something that you missed in the Alien bit was the fact that a couple days ago it was reported and confirmed that Disney has been sitting on a fully developed and FINISHED Alien Anime but has decided to keep it under lock and key because they do not know how to release it apparently it was finished right before the Disney and Fox merger and was gonna be released before Disney got their hands on it which is utterly insane
"Alien anime by Disney"
This HAS to be AI generated, I refuse something that sounds this awful could exist
@@CaptainZaimon It's an Alien vs. Predator anime that was made before Disney bought Fox, so, not Disney, to be exact
They could sell it to someone willing to publish it. I'm sure the reason why they can't release it it's because it contains "problematic" stuff that would go against the current political stance of Disney.
@@DioBrando-qr6ye or maybe it’s the fact it’s probably a hard rated R property and Disney is family friendly, not everything has to be political
@@aiwash2766 Sure, but at the same time; by being R-rated it probably contains edgy stuff, and by being an R-rated anime it probably contains heterosesual sexy stuff, both of which are seen as problematic by a certain political current very influential at Disney right now. So, we could be both right.
Also, Disney has the Miramax label for releasing R-rated stuff.
Nothing has compromised my faith in humanity than watching in abject horror as the Lion King Remake just kept raking in mountains of cash with each passing week in the box office.
For reaaaaal
I agree with you on most of these franchise movies, except for the James bonds movies. Those movies are not continuations of any other movie, those are different stories and different times that can still be successful.
I gave up on American TV and movies as primary entertainment decades ago and turned to international programs and movies. Their approach is to use the traditional format of character development. Interesting stories, good actors in relatable roles, good production values, etc. Old format stuff. The products can be quite unique. Yanks can produce some good products but quality is rare. A region free Blu-ray or access to international TV opens up a new world. Good hunting.
A reboot that I think worked well from the last 10 years was Mad Max Fury Road. When the first Mad Max came out, apocalypse genres weren't really a thing but there was clearly a lot of passion to the movies, and there was a lot of passion with Fury Road. When I watched the lightning/sandstorm for the first time, I was blown away and, yeah, it's camp but it's fun and awesome spectacle. I think where most reboots fail is that they are clearly just cash grabs and nothing else, there's no real love to see these things born again it's just money, and merchandising
It wasn’t a reboot though? It was sequel.
@@mhawang8204 It was a sequel that took so long that Mel Gibson got too old to play the aging Max he was supposed to play. If you've watched the movie, in the end Max leaves, but in the original script, where he was supposed to be played by a middle-aged Mel Gibson, he stays on the platform, his long journey coming to an end.
Tom Hardy filled in. He starred in Taboo a very good television series about an ex EIC man taking on the East India Company
@@mhawang8204 I meant reboot as in relaunching the franchise, like Dr Who being rebooted after the classic series ended ages before
@@oblivionfiend2037 in this case, I'd like to nominate Dredd as a well done reboot as well
Y'all, I cannot describe the soul-wrenching anger I felt when in the intro, FSN told me that they're doing an American version of "Parasite." That felt like the final boss to the "Don't swear out loud in front of strangers" Challenge
Eh, can you blame 'em? Look at the kind of people who Bong Joon-ho buddied up with, or do you think it's a coincidence that he showed signs of Trump Derangement Syndrome.
You hit the nail on the head with that comparison. Parasite is one of my all time favourite movies. It is utterly brilliant in its storytelling. Americans need to get over their fear of subtitles and watch the original.
That sounds even worse than when they treaten us with JJ Abrams adaptation of Your Name. It´s been several years and there were nothing said abuut that project so maybe it get stucked in preproduction hell if not abandoned completly (but when I was that lucky)
Very thorough presentation! Would love to see Toy Story: Tokyo Drift and Toy Story vs Superman: Dawn of Justice.
This made me feel old.. especially the James Bond part.