It is my understanding that Iger never left... he kept his office and continued to go to work regularly. Its bizarre that they pretended he was gone. He even kept his same office.
The quote from the bearded Rick Rubin guy caught my attention because one thing an OG told me when I was working at the (unnamed animation studio bombing on sequels right now) cafe is, "Back in the day, we used to make movies for each other." He then explained to me that the concept of a "muse" is simply "Someone you make something for". By definition, films made by committee do not possess the capacity to be "for" anyone.
Hey, MovieCynic. Were you talking about Napoleon Blownapart, when you mentioned the UA-cam guy with the $100 microphone? Usually he talks about MMA stuff, not wrestling, but I can't recommend his channel enough. Truly smart, funny guy.
It's not the first time Disney has declined. They go through these phases every so often. Actual failing, like going out of business, isn't happening. Marvel's finally starting to try to course correct. Star Wars might eventually if they ever get Kathleen Kennedy out of there.
@@rhetro777 I don't think both the Disney cartoon movies and live action movies have both simultaneously declined. And it's not like 2-3 it's like 10. Like the elemental. Kids were supposed to love that like the minions. If ever u see " cute cuddly " shit and kids aren't demanding it , something failed somewhere maybe even marketing.
If you want a real gauge of how bad Disney is doing, look no further than the Dollar Stores like Dollar Tree or Dollar General. I work at a Dollar General and we have a bunch of Disney/Marvel/Star Wars related items in our store like toys, party supplies, and even connectable cards. All for cheap. And we can't move any of it. Sure the occasional Diaper pack with Mickey's face on it will sell but that's a necessity rather than an indulgence. We can't get ANY of our Disney related stuff to move at all. If Disney can't even get cheap ass $1-5 toys to sell, do you think anyone would be willing to buy even more expensive items?
I would take those figures for free and use them to make some custom ones. But even a 1$ put towards this scummy shithole of a company is a disgrace to anyone. Only thing that disney is good at is being covered in shit like those diapers.
There's a saying: "There's no evil that lasts a hundred years", I've heard it many times throughout my life and well, seems to be having some truth in it
It truly is spectacular to realize that Disney struck out way more times than won last year in the theaters, to the point that the most fun you could have with Disney movies was tracking their trajectory right into the bomb zone. Particularly satisfying was seeing that The Marvels stopped reporting its box office earnings after less than a month, and that it was discovered that 65% was men who saw it, despite what a lot of people in the media claimed otherwise. When you had Godzilla Minus One expanding its theatrical reach while Disney was contracting, it felt real good for genuine storytelling.
It's depressing to realize that in the next 10 year movie theaters will probably not exist, the issue with Disney and Fox is they spent so many years creating such a bubble within their work space that at this point I severely doubt that there's anyone their who can write a story without trying to preach some message that has nothing to do with the action. They're so disconnected from reality it's like I am watching a parody of a movie.
Theaters are not going away, for sure. We were already seeing a down trend in movie-goers but I think that is due to the explosion of engaging content in different media. What is happening is that these Production houses are losing money left&right due to their misplaced sense of righteousness and "duty to society" and it has created an artistic vacuum. Its being filled by other media already and now, slowly but surely by the Global cinema. Looking at Netflix's content, for eg, there's very good, compelling "foreign" content to watch. Either Disney learns and does a course-correction or piece-by-piece loses its charm until it becomes just a token of Nostalgia. In hindsight.. movies like Wall-E, Ratatouille (while appreciated in their time) feel super underrated now, seeing the fresh crop of animated crap we are getting. I think Coco was the last Disney Pixar movie that I enjoyed.
Fox? Lol tf, what about the WB? Netflix, Paramount and Amazon? Btw, Disney owns Fox entertainment so you're just repeating yourself and missing all the other big players that keep bombing with their own stuff.
I don’t mind a film having a message and is trying to say something. A lot of great films do that. It just can’t be a “men suck” type message and it has to be written, shot, acted well.
Disney does not own Avatar. James Cameron' does. Disney only got the ability to distribute it nothing more. So that was $200 million they actually didn't get
I lost it when he said he'd rather watch a documentary about Stone Cold made buy a guy with a $100 microphone than a Disney movie. It's funny because it's true.
Nice summary Cynic. Kind of terrifying how powerful Blackrock and Vanguard have become. What will become of Disney - I don't really care, but then the only "new" media content I've consumed recently is Yellowstone. Sooner or later Disney will make something good ( probably by accident) but I'll be too detached to care. Anyway, stay blue! Cheers
The WEF’s plans must continue. I’d say good job on getting rid of your PM but she was replaced with more of the same. That’s okay, I’m even worse with trudo
Compare the two Luke Skywalkers. One helps Kyp Durron--the biggest mass murderer in history--to overcome his evil and turn over a new leaf. The other seriously considers offing his own nephew for fear of a potential Dark Side taint.
There is no surprise there. They try to hire diverse untalented people, then someone with a bit more experience has to fix the writing. They also hire actors from minorities, and ask yourself, have you ever noticed that they are often not very good? Passion and experience was replaced by quotes and the message. If they could make their movies just a bit worse in return of meeting DEI quotas, they would. The problem is that once they introduce those things the movie gets much much worse no matter how hard they try to go around the obstacles they created themselves
@@iqbalindaryono8984Nah those are enjoyable if for the wrong reasons, the main issue is that the new movies are boring with no real vision because of mandates and uninspired writers.
100% Would rather watch UA-cam videos over anything from Hollywood recently. Best part is... I don't have to leave my house and spend a shit ton of money on something that sucks.
If you're looking for things to watch, I'd recommend "The Tails That Bond" and "The Legend of Zelda: Hero's Purpose". They're two different SFM series that are nothing short of fantastic!
If a company invests in merger and acquisitions more than it does in its own product, you should take the hint and not invest in them either -Ben Graham
I doubt I will ever return to patronizing Disney. It's been decades since the Valdez dumped all that oil in Alaska and I still avoid stopping at Exxon whenever possible.
The difference between Exxon and Disney is that the Exxon spill was an accident (in the sense that the executives didn't wake up in the morning with the desire to dump a tanker of oil off the Alaskan coast), while everything Disney did was on purpose. I can forgive an accident. It is a lot harder to forgive malicious incompetence.
I stopped by a local theater yesterday on the way home from work and it was deserted. I mean the whole place was empty. Theaters will not survive movie producers making propaganda instead of entertainment.
Not that long ago (2 years ago), a movie theather was reopened in my town (after almost 30 years, when the og one was shut down after fall of the comunism). They used to play those big titles but I can confirm, almost noone was going to watch those. Slowly they reduced screenings of this crap to just one (ever) and nowdays they either play domestic productions, plays and sketches (there is also a scene and equipment for it there) or eventually good foregin movies. Not to mention replays of some classics
Former film crew turned builder here. Screw those strikers. I’ve been in camera since I left high school and I’ve had to change careers. Thousands of us have lost our jobs, infinitely more than the actors and writers who got laid off. Don’t forget us.
Hollywood Actors and Writers look like spoiled rich kids to me. The people making the movie look like a movie (vfx , props, cinematography, audio, scenery) you guys are unsung heroes of cinema
Iger has no intention of course correcting. If you pick up on his deliberate use of language (and omissions). “We want to quiet the noise” rather than “We are listening to our customers”; “some things aren’t political” which implies he’s dig his heels in and refusing to listen to a portion of their customers. (He also refuses ti openly state “what are those non political subjects” and always uses implications rather than specification: he’s refusing accountability for his own leadership (or lack thereof)
What confuses me is what exactly does Iger want? He doesn’t seem to be particularly motivated to insert the sjw messaging, just allows it as a side thing, so why is he so intent on defending this status quo. You might say it’s ego and he wants credit of his vision on top, but he kind of could have gotten that if he just stayed retired and let Chapek and whoever else replaced him take the fall as they’d be in charge as the decline hit.
He wants to be worshipped as a king, by Hollywood, while playing god with other peoples money. The problem is eventually those other people start asking where there money went. And buying cocaine for Bobs Hollywood friends is not a great answer. Seriously can anyone explain how She-Hulk Attorney at Law cost $250 million to make? Occam’s Razor screams wholesale embezzlement by somebody.
@@SupremeGreatGrandmaster as seen in him throwing away Lucas's original plans for the sequels and thinking he could come up with something better. Spoiler alert: he couldn't! whomp whomp
The thumbnail itself is perfection. If we always want entertainment going forward, there's anime, live-action tokusatsu shows (i.e.: Kamen Rider, Super Sentai), live-action dramas, and variety shows; all from Japan! Oh, and let's not forget Korean dramas, like Squid Game!
The problem with "inclusion" is that most of the time it's simply used as a cover for cheap and bad products. They somehow convinced themselves that if they just had a minority in the lead, people would flock to it and spend money on it regardless of quality. And because of that idea, not only are the products shit, but the "inclusion" is shit as well. It ends up being more offensive to the groups "represented", either because they are bland and boring characters, or just straight up ofensive. They make the one diversity checkmark the entire character and it ends up being a nightmare. If you want an example of good inclusion in media, you can look at shows like Castlevania, The Legend of Vox Machina, or even smaller Disney shows like The Owl House. The inclusion here doesn't feel forced because their "diversity traits" are treated as simply one aspect of the characters and story, and not the whole character or story.
It's funny that the company who had the foresight to plan an 20-year long success story at the box-office, wasn't able to predict that the train is running full steam against a wall. lol And it's so freaking satisfying to watch.
Honestly every empire must fall, and so it was with star wars and marvel. I for one look forward to independent action/historical movies and anime taking the lead.
Same here, but I feel there will be a shift....animation and film from.other nations will dominate within the west The west has been an empire and a downfall is coming
Your video is ten times better than anything Disney has done in almost two years. I’m glad I didn’t see the last Dr. Strange film. Him being relegated to secondary or third protagonist is ridiculous. It’s his movie and he’s a supporting character. I think Deadpool 3 will be Reynolds’s last one. No more Wolverine, Deadpool or Dr. Strange movies which is a bummer. My favorite characters slowly fading away. Them trying to get Johansson and RDJ back shows how desperate they are. How can they lose billions and still do the same thing over and over again? It’s like those horrible gamblers that think they’ll win if they just keep playing. It’s insanity and it’s all their own doing. You can’t save those who don’t want to be saved sort of thing. Again great video dude and you got another sub
Even if something broke even, it might still diminish brand value. Success would be breaking even, adding gloss to the brand that they can use in theme parks or toy sales, and setting up whatever they do next. If you're losing ground, you'll also giving other companies time to outmode you. If something comes along that leaves the superhero genre in the dust, then it would take Disney probably years to adjust.
Star cruiser is extraordinary. Image a couple being slugged almost 5k for a 2 night Star Wars cosplay. If those tickets sold I guess there is one born every minute.
What I loved reading was that Disney had made up its total expenditure for Star Wars (4.05 Billion) in just the sequels. That fool had no idea how Hollyweird accounting works...☺ They need to get the director of Rey to do a movie with Jennifer Lawrence. It would be the first first and possibly first movie ever with a women in the lead and a no time director taking the reins. Seriously groundbreaking stuff.
Never give the audience exactly what they want - always aim above that. The public will consume donuts and cake till they puke and then blame you for getting them sick.
For the record I am not a “hater”. I am a “lover”. I love what Star Wars used to be and I have no small amount of feelings for Han, Luke, and Leia. I love the quality of storytelling Disney showed during the golden era. I love Iron Man. It’s actually that simple.
Haunted Mansion was actually really cute. It might have done better if it was released at Halloween, but Disney's gotta Disney and make stupid decisions.
It’s scary that a company this large can be in such denial on how they are failing. At a certain point someone has to answer for ruining a business this big, almost like the United States is being ruined from the top. It’s a fact, not an opinion.
The research and messaging on this was fresh and wasnt the regurgitated info weve heard; the statement about how youd rather watch wrestling doc made by a guy with a $100 mic hit home hard lol... hits home hard for Disney too Im sure.
So basically what you are saying is. Listen to the fans.....why a business like Disney didn't baffles me to no end. I am a comic book guy, always have been and they butched every character since endgame.....decades of amazing stories in their back pocket and dei ruined them all. I fear we have gone back to the crappy comic movies of the 90s and early 2000s and worse....I fear it will never get back to good stories. Show don't tell and character development mean nothing to them. When you turn on your fans and say we are the issue and toxic, racist, bigoted etc what did they expect to happen. We made them what they are.....it's entertainment not politics. Everyone hated being preached at and then told we are awful humans for not supporting shitty movies. What did they expect? As you said we all saw this coming a mile away.....I don't think they can recover to pre endgame fanfair because they pointed the finger at us the comic fan and said we were the issue not the crappy writing, characters and dei infused schlock. I always say I don't care what sex, gender, race or religion the characters are just write them well, well written stories without the bullshit. That's what they need to do. But as you said to little to late now. They hurt their themselves too much to recover in my opinion. I haven't watched any of the modern mavel stuff....none of it. And I know fans who are die hard comic nerds who refuse to even try with them. They didn't just shoot themselves in the foot they sat on a nuke and blew themselves up. No one to blame but themselves. Activism isn't the answer, dei isn't the answer ....good, quality story telling without 15 writers is the answer. The sag strike is just going to make it worse as they are mandating 6 writers per film/tv show ....so what happens to those people who are passionate and write an amazing script to only have it butched by the 5 idiots who want to make a name for themselves....you end up with films and tv like we have. It's a real shame....a massive misstep that they will never recover from without a huge shake up....going against the Hollywood norms of now and I don't know how they will do that.
That thumbnail is the perfect visual metaphor for Disney. They're too oblivious to see they're descending so far, they're too damn sure their vessel can't ever collapse...but they are inexorably approaching crush depth. I still don't want that to happen, so go, Nelson, go! 😁
No, Disney doesn’t need to course correct. What they need is to lose a few more billion dollars to make up for what they’ve done to Star Wars, Marvel, and now Indiana Jones.
Marvel was lucky to get the 10 years it did. Endgame was the end of it. I've been alive long enough to know that these things always happen to a franchise.
At this point, it feels like Disney is trying its last ditch attempt at regaining audiences' attention without actually changing things by decreasing the quantity of releases. Hence, the Rey Palpatine movie and Moana live action remake (yes, it is still a thing).
Peltz: "Iger.. the board has rights, too. They think your new direction isn't in the company's best interes-" Iger: "I'm being responsible, that's a new direction for.. me- for the company. I mean me, on the company's behalf."
I think that your facial hair is not nearly as patchy or thin as you think it is. There's a few styles that would look good on you. You're very handsome.
The moment that Disney imploded was in, they canceled the owl house because that was one of the properties that they could’ve used a lot and they canceled it for being gay
As someone in PR/Marketing, I really don't GET this DEI... insistence. Like, HOW it's done, not the concept. Because I'm sure the people in power in Disney are aware of other IP with technically DEI content that works. Two of them even have Sigourney Weaver on them and MADE MONEY in the 1980s or 1990s - you know, those benighted times because no one was "Woke" yet - and remain cultural icons to this day. So I don't know what NUMBERS the pushers of this agenda told or continue to tell both Blackrock and Disney board members to justify the continued push. Do they honestly believe the hooha that the core of these franchises hate the "new direction" because we're bigots and misogynists? I get it when some White Knight or "activist" gets behind the push, but corporate leaders are supposed to be NUMBERS people. If you're a corp boss and the important numbers are down, you should want to see the numbers tanking those numbers. Why are we not getting the numbers we want? And you're telling me Disney boardies believe it when some "activist" marketing guy tells them "coz neckbeards" as the reason? It doesn't make sense, at least how I, as someone who was the PR/Marketing guy for a once-big corporation here in the Philippines, understand industries. I have an idea, given I was in political PR before I decamped to the "private sector", but I don't have the info to prove that speculation AND it still doesn't make sense because Disney isn't just Blackrock.
Gosh, I can't even think of the last production I liked that comes under the Disney umbrella. If not for my elderly mother using my Disney Plus subscription I would have cancelled it long ago. What a pathetic organization.
As a trained project manager........I really would like to see the line by line costs of a movie production that has a 250M budget. How much is labor, materials, and whatever the hell else that incurs cost (not counting advertising). I've planned out and executed program budgets where every dime is accounted for and reported.
Disney is failing due to their incompetency of just not making something new and sticking to their core to much they are relying on famous franchise or any franchise that represent their ideals: feminism, equality, making MEN uncomfortable, weak etc and just blaintly trying to drain money from franchises that we love.
Honestly UA-cam has been more enjoyable than pretty much most movies recently, way easier to find interesting content from LGBT creators in subjects I care about.
DEI can work with good narratives, the key is to not flanderize representation to the point where people that the representation find it offensive, include DEI in situations that make no sense in terms of narrative, or change pre-established characters for no reason. Black Ariel and female ghost busters don’t work because those are changes that weren’t needed to be changed (plus they were stories that were already told) Captain Marvel and the main character of Wish don’t work because they are written as Mary Sue’s But you know what characters do work and fall under DEI? Speedy Gonzales, Apu, Nimona from Nimona, Barbie from Barbie Movie It also helps if DEI characters and DEI coded characters are written and/or played by matching individuals (blind people playing blind characters, amputees writing for amputee characters, neurodivergent individuals creating neurodivergent characters), that way the tv and film industry becomes more accessible for minority writers and actors who want to get into the industry, and more people in the industry increase the likelihood of good films being made from unlikely individuals.
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It is my understanding that Iger never left... he kept his office and continued to go to work regularly. Its bizarre that they pretended he was gone. He even kept his same office.
The quote from the bearded Rick Rubin guy caught my attention because one thing an OG told me when I was working at the (unnamed animation studio bombing on sequels right now) cafe is, "Back in the day, we used to make movies for each other." He then explained to me that the concept of a "muse" is simply "Someone you make something for". By definition, films made by committee do not possess the capacity to be "for" anyone.
Hey, MovieCynic. Were you talking about Napoleon Blownapart, when you mentioned the UA-cam guy with the $100 microphone? Usually he talks about MMA stuff, not wrestling, but I can't recommend his channel enough. Truly smart, funny guy.
Google search images of "Disney Corporate Map". You absolute orangutan.
I think Disney rapidly declining because of their own incompetence is a testament to the age old adage:
You are *NEVER* too big to fail.
Truth.
Yeapp head assery
It's not the first time Disney has declined. They go through these phases every so often. Actual failing, like going out of business, isn't happening. Marvel's finally starting to try to course correct. Star Wars might eventually if they ever get Kathleen Kennedy out of there.
@@rhetro777 I don't think both the Disney cartoon movies and live action movies have both simultaneously declined. And it's not like 2-3 it's like 10. Like the elemental. Kids were supposed to love that like the minions. If ever u see " cute cuddly " shit and kids aren't demanding it , something failed somewhere maybe even marketing.
God himself couldn't sink the Titanic
Crazy to think that if you write a good story with good characters, the movie does well.
madness! heresy!
Hersay your honor.
Hey, wait, that's a novel concept! 😆
Nah, just buy theatre seats for your own movies.
Unfortunately no
If you want a real gauge of how bad Disney is doing, look no further than the Dollar Stores like Dollar Tree or Dollar General. I work at a Dollar General and we have a bunch of Disney/Marvel/Star Wars related items in our store like toys, party supplies, and even connectable cards. All for cheap. And we can't move any of it. Sure the occasional Diaper pack with Mickey's face on it will sell but that's a necessity rather than an indulgence. We can't get ANY of our Disney related stuff to move at all. If Disney can't even get cheap ass $1-5 toys to sell, do you think anyone would be willing to buy even more expensive items?
I would take those figures for free and use them to make some custom ones. But even a 1$ put towards this scummy shithole of a company is a disgrace to anyone. Only thing that disney is good at is being covered in shit like those diapers.
That is absolutely hilarious
Imagine if diapers never existed. That's if humans evolved without needing to use the restroom. How the world and its stores have looked like?
@@tlst94no Skibidi toilet
@@johnnyknadler1157I hate how that's the takeaway from that thought experiment
Watching snarky UA-cam commentaries about Disney's pathetic demise is the new entertainment and I absolutely love it 😂
Same I’m all over it all too
The thumbnail 😂😂
Its the perfect analogy, diving straight to the bottom before imploding
BIGGEST DISASTER FOR DISNEY'S.
Yeap, it is really good
Yeah it's "apt'.
I don't get it
All in their 100th year as well
That is very sad 😔
@@Raccoon-Formersand funny!
There's a saying: "There's no evil that lasts a hundred years", I've heard it many times throughout my life and well, seems to be having some truth in it
Bob Iger literally shat all over the Disney bed and blames Chapek
waiting for someone to mention the profile pic
Amber Heard and her dog
Also, nice profile pic.
@@Panzer_Runnerlooks like Afro Bull
He hand picked chapek too
it is. @@GeraltofRivia22
At least with the submarine it went out with a bang.... Disney is going out with a whimper.
A squeak
Pluto heard crying softly to himself because no one cares.
@@atticstatticHotdog!
It truly is spectacular to realize that Disney struck out way more times than won last year in the theaters, to the point that the most fun you could have with Disney movies was tracking their trajectory right into the bomb zone. Particularly satisfying was seeing that The Marvels stopped reporting its box office earnings after less than a month, and that it was discovered that 65% was men who saw it, despite what a lot of people in the media claimed otherwise. When you had Godzilla Minus One expanding its theatrical reach while Disney was contracting, it felt real good for genuine storytelling.
It's depressing to realize that in the next 10 year movie theaters will probably not exist, the issue with Disney and Fox is they spent so many years creating such a bubble within their work space that at this point I severely doubt that there's anyone their who can write a story without trying to preach some message that has nothing to do with the action. They're so disconnected from reality it's like I am watching a parody of a movie.
Theaters are not going away, for sure. We were already seeing a down trend in movie-goers but I think that is due to the explosion of engaging content in different media. What is happening is that these Production houses are losing money left&right due to their misplaced sense of righteousness and "duty to society" and it has created an artistic vacuum. Its being filled by other media already and now, slowly but surely by the Global cinema. Looking at Netflix's content, for eg, there's very good, compelling "foreign" content to watch.
Either Disney learns and does a course-correction or piece-by-piece loses its charm until it becomes just a token of Nostalgia.
In hindsight.. movies like Wall-E, Ratatouille (while appreciated in their time) feel super underrated now, seeing the fresh crop of animated crap we are getting. I think Coco was the last Disney Pixar movie that I enjoyed.
Fox? Lol tf, what about the WB? Netflix, Paramount and Amazon?
Btw, Disney owns Fox entertainment so you're just repeating yourself and missing all the other big players that keep bombing with their own stuff.
I don’t mind a film having a message and is trying to say something. A lot of great films do that. It just can’t be a “men suck” type message and it has to be written, shot, acted well.
I've become a huge fan of Disney this year for saving me money that I would have normally spent seeing their movies and paying for Disney+.
Disney does not own Avatar. James Cameron' does. Disney only got the ability to distribute it nothing more. So that was $200 million they actually didn't get
Yes Cameron and Lightstorm Entertainment finance and collect most of the revenue from the Avatar franchise
Same with Disney distributing Doctor Who, not owning it, contray to what Nerdrotic tells us
Anyone else feel insanely satisfied cancelling their disney subscription?
I get rocked up just thinking about it, and I haven’t had a subscription for like 3 years.
My dad made a Dinsey+ account and I've never even bother using it since.
Cause Disney+ sucks.
I lost it when he said he'd rather watch a documentary about Stone Cold made buy a guy with a $100 microphone than a Disney movie. It's funny because it's true.
Shit, I'd listen to that right now.
Nice summary Cynic. Kind of terrifying how powerful Blackrock and Vanguard have become. What will become of Disney - I don't really care, but then the only "new" media content I've consumed recently is Yellowstone. Sooner or later Disney will make something good ( probably by accident) but I'll be too detached to care. Anyway, stay blue! Cheers
The WEF’s plans must continue. I’d say good job on getting rid of your PM but she was replaced with more of the same. That’s okay, I’m even worse with trudo
Yellowstone way too Gynocentric for me to watch Beth bigdick
I will never forgive them for how they handled Luke Skywalker.
Never forgive, never forget.
@@daneparsons725 I won't.
"Nerds will never forgive them for what they did to Luke Skywalker"--me watching "Last Jedi" trailer the first time.
Compare the two Luke Skywalkers. One helps Kyp Durron--the biggest mass murderer in history--to overcome his evil and turn over a new leaf. The other seriously considers offing his own nephew for fear of a potential Dark Side taint.
Total character assassination
Even when taking out "the message", the writing is so bad that the shows/movies still suck.
There is no surprise there. They try to hire diverse untalented people, then someone with a bit more experience has to fix the writing. They also hire actors from minorities, and ask yourself, have you ever noticed that they are often not very good? Passion and experience was replaced by quotes and the message. If they could make their movies just a bit worse in return of meeting DEI quotas, they would. The problem is that once they introduce those things the movie gets much much worse no matter how hard they try to go around the obstacles they created themselves
@@Shineinpovertythey're bad because they're inexperienced, not because they're minorities. Case in point; birdemic, the room, etc
@@iqbalindaryono8984Nah those are enjoyable if for the wrong reasons, the main issue is that the new movies are boring with no real vision because of mandates and uninspired writers.
100% Would rather watch UA-cam videos over anything from Hollywood recently. Best part is... I don't have to leave my house and spend a shit ton of money on something that sucks.
If you're looking for things to watch, I'd recommend "The Tails That Bond" and "The Legend of Zelda: Hero's Purpose". They're two different SFM series that are nothing short of fantastic!
You all forget how it was before the streaming services, all these sites still exist
Let's hope Disney doesn't take over Comcast and start throttling our bandwidth of non-Disney content.
Nice profile pic deadhead! ✌🏼
@@Wolffman109what about Emesis Blue? Sure it’s not for everyone, but it’s still a good watch.
If a company invests in merger and acquisitions more than it does in its own product, you should take the hint and not invest in them either
-Ben Graham
Ooh, I like this quote.
I doubt I will ever return to patronizing Disney. It's been decades since the Valdez dumped all that oil in Alaska and I still avoid stopping at Exxon whenever possible.
The difference between Exxon and Disney is that the Exxon spill was an accident (in the sense that the executives didn't wake up in the morning with the desire to dump a tanker of oil off the Alaskan coast), while everything Disney did was on purpose. I can forgive an accident. It is a lot harder to forgive malicious incompetence.
@@antiquecardboardI don’t forgive and I don’t expect forgiveness either
@@Eatshitglobalists That's not good for your heart.
@@antiquecardboardit’s easy to forgive accidents. But it’s hard to forgive malice
What happened in Alaska is forgivable, though.
I stopped by a local theater yesterday on the way home from work and it was deserted. I mean the whole place was empty. Theaters will not survive movie producers making propaganda instead of entertainment.
Not that long ago (2 years ago), a movie theather was reopened in my town (after almost 30 years, when the og one was shut down after fall of the comunism). They used to play those big titles but I can confirm, almost noone was going to watch those. Slowly they reduced screenings of this crap to just one (ever) and nowdays they either play domestic productions, plays and sketches (there is also a scene and equipment for it there) or eventually good foregin movies. Not to mention replays of some classics
@@racingraptor4758It's interesting to think that the fate of your local theater may become the fate of Western cinema.
@@racingraptor4758Sounds like my type of theater, just one that plays movies.
one of the most deliberately irresponsible ceo's
Former film crew turned builder here. Screw those strikers. I’ve been in camera since I left high school and I’ve had to change careers. Thousands of us have lost our jobs, infinitely more than the actors and writers who got laid off. Don’t forget us.
Hollywood Actors and Writers look like spoiled rich kids to me. The people making the movie look like a movie (vfx , props, cinematography, audio, scenery) you guys are unsung heroes of cinema
13:57 "The Little Mermaid REE!!'d its way into theaters." LOL
Iger has no intention of course correcting. If you pick up on his deliberate use of language (and omissions). “We want to quiet the noise” rather than “We are listening to our customers”; “some things aren’t political” which implies he’s dig his heels in and refusing to listen to a portion of their customers. (He also refuses ti openly state “what are those non political subjects” and always uses implications rather than specification: he’s refusing accountability for his own leadership (or lack thereof)
he won't say what politics because he's scared to admit to producing capitalist propaganda while using anything left of center as a scapegoat
Disney marvel has definitely earned my apathy.
Even during it’s dark times whether it is the dark age or even the early 2000s, Disney still had viewership and respect
Even when they made that travesty of Prydain that would have filled Gurgi's poor tender head with bangings and clangings.
What confuses me is what exactly does Iger want? He doesn’t seem to be particularly motivated to insert the sjw messaging, just allows it as a side thing, so why is he so intent on defending this status quo. You might say it’s ego and he wants credit of his vision on top, but he kind of could have gotten that if he just stayed retired and let Chapek and whoever else replaced him take the fall as they’d be in charge as the decline hit.
He's busy espablishing his political cred to get appointed Ambassador to China
He wants to be worshipped as a king, by Hollywood, while playing god with other peoples money. The problem is eventually those other people start asking where there money went. And buying cocaine for Bobs Hollywood friends is not a great answer. Seriously can anyone explain how She-Hulk Attorney at Law cost $250 million to make? Occam’s Razor screams wholesale embezzlement by somebody.
Iger is a vain narcissist. That's it.
@@SupremeGreatGrandmaster as seen in him throwing away Lucas's original plans for the sequels and thinking he could come up with something better. Spoiler alert: he couldn't! whomp whomp
Insert Jurassic park reference here quote: “standing on the shoulders of giants”
The thumbnail itself is perfection. If we always want entertainment going forward, there's anime, live-action tokusatsu shows (i.e.: Kamen Rider, Super Sentai), live-action dramas, and variety shows; all from Japan! Oh, and let's not forget Korean dramas, like Squid Game!
Came here to give you a thumbs up solely on the thumbnail. It made me chuckle
“This is fine”
At least if you were on the Titan sub, you went out with a bang, Hollywood went out with a whimper.
They where squeezed into toothpaste
@@jokester3076 Instantaneously. I count that as a bang
Every empire and whoever gets to the highest point of view, fall the hardest
As the Tamarians from Star Trek would say, "Yertle, when the turtles shook."
The problem with "inclusion" is that most of the time it's simply used as a cover for cheap and bad products. They somehow convinced themselves that if they just had a minority in the lead, people would flock to it and spend money on it regardless of quality.
And because of that idea, not only are the products shit, but the "inclusion" is shit as well. It ends up being more offensive to the groups "represented", either because they are bland and boring characters, or just straight up ofensive. They make the one diversity checkmark the entire character and it ends up being a nightmare.
If you want an example of good inclusion in media, you can look at shows like Castlevania, The Legend of Vox Machina, or even smaller Disney shows like The Owl House.
The inclusion here doesn't feel forced because their "diversity traits" are treated as simply one aspect of the characters and story, and not the whole character or story.
It's funny that the company who had the foresight to plan an 20-year long success story at the box-office, wasn't able to predict that the train is running full steam against a wall. lol
And it's so freaking satisfying to watch.
Honestly every empire must fall, and so it was with star wars and marvel.
I for one look forward to independent action/historical movies and anime taking the lead.
Same here, but I feel there will be a shift....animation and film from.other nations will dominate within the west
The west has been an empire and a downfall is coming
starwars didn't fall, it was desecrated. get woke go broke
Your video is ten times better than anything Disney has done in almost two years. I’m glad I didn’t see the last Dr. Strange film. Him being relegated to secondary or third protagonist is ridiculous. It’s his movie and he’s a supporting character. I think Deadpool 3 will be Reynolds’s last one. No more Wolverine, Deadpool or Dr. Strange movies which is a bummer. My favorite characters slowly fading away. Them trying to get Johansson and RDJ back shows how desperate they are. How can they lose billions and still do the same thing over and over again? It’s like those horrible gamblers that think they’ll win if they just keep playing. It’s insanity and it’s all their own doing. You can’t save those who don’t want to be saved sort of thing. Again great video dude and you got another sub
Thank you! And the gambling analogy is spot on here.
@@TheMovieCynic the thumbnail was so funny and true since Disney followed the submarine and imploded
Even if something broke even, it might still diminish brand value. Success would be breaking even, adding gloss to the brand that they can use in theme parks or toy sales, and setting up whatever they do next. If you're losing ground, you'll also giving other companies time to outmode you. If something comes along that leaves the superhero genre in the dust, then it would take Disney probably years to adjust.
They won’t be able to fix this.
Star cruiser is extraordinary. Image a couple being slugged almost 5k for a 2 night Star Wars cosplay. If those tickets sold I guess there is one born every minute.
THAT THUMBNAIL IS WILD 💀
What I loved reading was that Disney had made up its total expenditure for Star Wars (4.05 Billion) in just the sequels. That fool had no idea how Hollyweird accounting works...☺
They need to get the director of Rey to do a movie with Jennifer Lawrence. It would be the first first and possibly first movie ever with a women in the lead and a no time director taking the reins. Seriously groundbreaking stuff.
Disney should replace Girl Boss Director with Lexi Alexander (Punisher War Zone), a director who has proven action chops.
Never give the audience exactly what they want - always aim above that. The public will consume donuts and cake till they puke and then blame you for getting them sick.
Closing a popular E ticket attraction at both Disneyland AND Walt Disney World instead of expanding.
For the record I am not a “hater”. I am a “lover”. I love what Star Wars used to be and I have no small amount of feelings for Han, Luke, and Leia. I love the quality of storytelling Disney showed during the golden era. I love Iron Man. It’s actually that simple.
The Warp Zone made a funny parody of Bob Iger and Bob Chapek that’s far far better than any actual Disney products in the past 3 years!
Haunted Mansion was actually really cute. It might have done better if it was released at Halloween, but Disney's gotta Disney and make stupid decisions.
It’s scary that a company this large can be in such denial on how they are failing. At a certain point someone has to answer for ruining a business this big, almost like the United States is being ruined from the top. It’s a fact, not an opinion.
6:17 Rick Rubin spitting Hard Truths
Just started the video, but just wanted to say, WOW what a title + thumbnail combination. Savage but funny. Well done 😂
The wound that hampers but doesnt kill...so every light saber wound under disney star wars.
thank you for posting
The research and messaging on this was fresh and wasnt the regurgitated info weve heard; the statement about how youd rather watch wrestling doc made by a guy with a $100 mic hit home hard lol... hits home hard for Disney too Im sure.
Yoooo! Whoever did the thumbnail…they need a raise! 👏🏻
Disney really out here killing the unkillable franchises. It’s getting to the point where it’s quite impressive how good they are at it.
they killed american dad
Your videos are some of the few that ALWAYS get me to uncontrollably laugh 😂
So basically what you are saying is. Listen to the fans.....why a business like Disney didn't baffles me to no end. I am a comic book guy, always have been and they butched every character since endgame.....decades of amazing stories in their back pocket and dei ruined them all.
I fear we have gone back to the crappy comic movies of the 90s and early 2000s and worse....I fear it will never get back to good stories.
Show don't tell and character development mean nothing to them. When you turn on your fans and say we are the issue and toxic, racist, bigoted etc what did they expect to happen. We made them what they are.....it's entertainment not politics.
Everyone hated being preached at and then told we are awful humans for not supporting shitty movies. What did they expect?
As you said we all saw this coming a mile away.....I don't think they can recover to pre endgame fanfair because they pointed the finger at us the comic fan and said we were the issue not the crappy writing, characters and dei infused schlock.
I always say I don't care what sex, gender, race or religion the characters are just write them well, well written stories without the bullshit. That's what they need to do. But as you said to little to late now.
They hurt their themselves too much to recover in my opinion. I haven't watched any of the modern mavel stuff....none of it. And I know fans who are die hard comic nerds who refuse to even try with them.
They didn't just shoot themselves in the foot they sat on a nuke and blew themselves up. No one to blame but themselves.
Activism isn't the answer, dei isn't the answer ....good, quality story telling without 15 writers is the answer.
The sag strike is just going to make it worse as they are mandating 6 writers per film/tv show ....so what happens to those people who are passionate and write an amazing script to only have it butched by the 5 idiots who want to make a name for themselves....you end up with films and tv like we have.
It's a real shame....a massive misstep that they will never recover from without a huge shake up....going against the Hollywood norms of now and I don't know how they will do that.
The title and thumbnail gave me a chuckle. Good stuff.
That thumbnail is the perfect visual metaphor for Disney. They're too oblivious to see they're descending so far, they're too damn sure their vessel can't ever collapse...but they are inexorably approaching crush depth.
I still don't want that to happen, so go, Nelson, go! 😁
One of the few benefits of living in the "interesting times" - witnessing the chaos
No, Disney doesn’t need to course correct. What they need is to lose a few more billion dollars to make up for what they’ve done to Star Wars, Marvel, and now Indiana Jones.
I was about to not watch this video but then I saw THAT THUMBNAIL! Also, 10/10 video!
First 15 seconds " In a weird twist of fate, a submersible was imploding at the same time hollywood was" 😂😂😂 Holy shit
Your videos are always on point and full of good points
I had no idea that they even made a Haunted Mansion movie lmao
Marvel was lucky to get the 10 years it did. Endgame was the end of it. I've been alive long enough to know that these things always happen to a franchise.
One of the best thumbnails I’ve ever seen. I laughed out loud.
At this point, it feels like Disney is trying its last ditch attempt at regaining audiences' attention without actually changing things by decreasing the quantity of releases. Hence, the Rey Palpatine movie and Moana live action remake (yes, it is still a thing).
This video has to have the best thumbnail ever. 😅
Great Horned Mickey needs to be dismantled!
Peltz: "Iger.. the board has rights, too. They think your new direction isn't in the company's best interes-"
Iger: "I'm being responsible, that's a new direction for.. me- for the company. I mean me, on the company's behalf."
Which Stone Cold documentary are we talking?
Too many solid ones to count tbh
I dont want disney to fail, i want them to get better but they wont
Dude you killed me with that thumbnail
I must watch it now!!!!!!!
Good job
Holy shit the thumbnail, the best use of steamboat willie HAHAH
It didn’t have to happen but Disney couldn’t help themselves.
I think that your facial hair is not nearly as patchy or thin as you think it is. There's a few styles that would look good on you. You're very handsome.
It was the thumbnail that sold it for me. XD That thumbnail was WILD.
They killed SW & the MCU after they screwed everything else up they owned. Wow.
The moment that Disney imploded was in, they canceled the owl house because that was one of the properties that they could’ve used a lot and they canceled it for being gay
For a second I thought this video was titled "The Year Destiny Imploded." Ah well, maybe next time.
Using william dafoe talking about his role in Bonedock saints.
boa you had me there for a sec with a big smile on my face.
The scot stainer math promo the numbers dont lie line would have been perfect for this video
That cut to Liar Liar was fantastic
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I hadn't considered the different competitors of streaming, that's a great point!
As someone in PR/Marketing, I really don't GET this DEI... insistence.
Like, HOW it's done, not the concept. Because I'm sure the people in power in Disney are aware of other IP with technically DEI content that works. Two of them even have Sigourney Weaver on them and MADE MONEY in the 1980s or 1990s - you know, those benighted times because no one was "Woke" yet - and remain cultural icons to this day.
So I don't know what NUMBERS the pushers of this agenda told or continue to tell both Blackrock and Disney board members to justify the continued push. Do they honestly believe the hooha that the core of these franchises hate the "new direction" because we're bigots and misogynists?
I get it when some White Knight or "activist" gets behind the push, but corporate leaders are supposed to be NUMBERS people. If you're a corp boss and the important numbers are down, you should want to see the numbers tanking those numbers. Why are we not getting the numbers we want?
And you're telling me Disney boardies believe it when some "activist" marketing guy tells them "coz neckbeards" as the reason?
It doesn't make sense, at least how I, as someone who was the PR/Marketing guy for a once-big corporation here in the Philippines, understand industries.
I have an idea, given I was in political PR before I decamped to the "private sector", but I don't have the info to prove that speculation AND it still doesn't make sense because Disney isn't just Blackrock.
Could I make a good horror movie released theatrically domestically on a budget of 30K? Wasn’t the first Evil Dead made on that budget?
No, it was still more than that: $375,000
@@justin2308 ok got it 👌
Gosh, I can't even think of the last production I liked that comes under the Disney umbrella. If not for my elderly mother using my Disney Plus subscription I would have cancelled it long ago. What a pathetic organization.
As a trained project manager........I really would like to see the line by line costs of a movie production that has a 250M budget. How much is labor, materials, and whatever the hell else that incurs cost (not counting advertising). I've planned out and executed program budgets where every dime is accounted for and reported.
Great vid man! Keep up the good work! 👍 Praying for you.
Disney is failing due to their incompetency of just not making something new and sticking to their core to much they are relying on famous franchise or any franchise that represent their ideals: feminism, equality, making MEN uncomfortable, weak etc and just blaintly trying to drain money from franchises that we love.
I am very happy that Kingdom Heartless is getting what's coming. Its like Christmas at the orphanage.
Honestly UA-cam has been more enjoyable than pretty much most movies recently, way easier to find interesting content from LGBT creators in subjects I care about.
That thumbnail DIABOLICAL😂😭😭
It's funny to think that when Bob Iger initially retired, there was speculation that he was going to run for Senate or President.
Given the controversy, I’m fairly certain he’s ruined his chances at either.
The thumbnail 😂🔥
Love the videos, man. Keep it up!!!
DEI can work with good narratives, the key is to not flanderize representation to the point where people that the representation find it offensive, include DEI in situations that make no sense in terms of narrative, or change pre-established characters for no reason.
Black Ariel and female ghost busters don’t work because those are changes that weren’t needed to be changed (plus they were stories that were already told)
Captain Marvel and the main character of Wish don’t work because they are written as Mary Sue’s
But you know what characters do work and fall under DEI? Speedy Gonzales, Apu, Nimona from Nimona, Barbie from Barbie Movie
It also helps if DEI characters and DEI coded characters are written and/or played by matching individuals (blind people playing blind characters, amputees writing for amputee characters, neurodivergent individuals creating neurodivergent characters), that way the tv and film industry becomes more accessible for minority writers and actors who want to get into the industry, and more people in the industry increase the likelihood of good films being made from unlikely individuals.
Omg the thumbnail 😂😂😂😢🎉