Duncan is the real deal. I participated in one of his music seminars many years ago and what I learned and could do as a result,opened the door to the wonders of composing.
I am 40 right now. About 2 years ago I bought a piano for my daughter and by coincidence, I come up the very first day with the idea to count the notes. It worked and I got absolutely shocked how easy it was to count my own chords. It was two years ago and since then almost every day I spend about half an hour a day playing, experimenting and counting steps. After two years I am able to meet with friends and jam together. chords and even melodies are way much more obvious with this method. surprisingly this method is not being shown even in music schools. kids are forced to memorize tons of chords and notes and they are unable to go out of this box. even one note forgotten is making them lost. this is frustrating and many people just give up. This method is exciting for its simplicity and excitement is the main drive to play music.
All guitarists know this, you don’t need to learn all minor major sharp or flat, learn the shape of eac one and you know them all, if you don’t need to read music, as guitarists don’t, you don’t need to memorise all the sharps and flats in each scale just the patterns, nothing magical, the skill comes in learning timing, the space in between notes in a scale is music.
His approach is really good for beginners. I did music at school for 200 hours. I didn't get it and thought I was not cut out for it. Years later i joined the choir at church and figured it out from a mathematical perspective. Its really not hard.
As a music teacher I give individual classes on pattern recognition to my students. Works wonderfully and makes it so much easier for them to understand.
I have done several of Duncan's seminars. And they were all life-changing experiences. I know many people that never dared to play music or sing before The Understanding of Music seminar. And now they do. And many of my friends that did it could not sing in tune before they met Duncan and now they do. Highly recommend if you have failed purposes in music or singing. And would like to rehabilitate your abilities in this area.
All of you 'dissing' his teaching method, designed specifically to get the raw beginner to understand tonal patterns without being swamped by having to memorize and spew back vast amounts of detail they are not ready for on day one don't want to teach - you want to stroke your egos. Is he simplistic? Yup, and guess what. He is perfect for the beginner who has never touched an instrument, never heard of thirds and fifths, and on and on.
Being a total beginner and just learning my second scale (A minor) this video has helped connect something my brain was working on but couldn’t consciously put to words. I know there is a lot more to learn but thinking of these scales as patterns works
I am afraid this is that kind of shortcut that brings you to abbys of being total beginner forever because you "know music in 3 minutes, why study, why practice"
Thank You Duncan for breaking this area of music theory down to the simplicity it is. The challenging part is to take the plunge and apply it creatively. My intuition tells me that this can be done well by practicing, experimenting, and SCREWING UP over and again until the knowledge of these steps (algorithms) becomes UNDERSTANDING. I shall post the results of my intuition on my channel by late Jan 2020 or Right Now on soundcloud.
At 5 years of age I learned patterns while being taught "Old Macdonald" starting at F#. At 68 years of age, after writing and performing several hundred Songs, only now am I learning Music Theory. I was busy writing and never considered Theory until now.
What he has done here is excellent. Always start learning music theory by learning interval patterns. I know that there are lots of books and online courses that will tell you this, but the way he describes it here is for those who have no idea about anything musical, so it will work, and it may get them hooked. Would like to see his take on musical notation :)
Yes, this data may be taught in traditional school. The problem is that this important data always comes with a lot of clutter that obscures the simplicity. The most important thing is that Duncan has a product. I am a student, not a teacher. I have tried the keyboard, the guitar, the drums and ended up playing the recorder because it was a simple instrument for kids and I could play some simple tunes on it. Pretty much my musical attempts were failure upon failure until I met Duncan. I can say that Duncan was the only person in my life who completely rehabilitated my musical ambitions. His teaching method helped me understand why I was not able to understand music the traditional way and gave me the understanding necessary to play any instrument. Studying with Duncan was very relieving and worth every penny. He put music within my reach and I am forever thankful to him.
@dnewjazz1 Duncan VERY CLEARLY said that traditional names for this "step of one" are not important for now." So, my question to you is: Are you a deaf professional musician?
@dnewjazz1 Duncan's approach IS FOR "the common person understanding" (YOUR words). It OBVIOUSLY doesn't get into technical musical terms, as he is not teaching any in-depth understanding of musical architecture.
Scales are like basic early sentences: "See Jack run down the street". "Do-Re-Me-Fa-So-La-Ti-Do" There are many ways to introduce the subject, but what has to happen is you have to commit them to memory. Personally I think trying to figure out a scale by comparing to the notes (words) on the instrument to what you know it should sound like and correcting your mistakes will get you there faster then memorizing a pattern and then translating that to the instrument. However, there are many ways to get there.
This is how you play a scale: Start at C and play all the white notes. With other keys you play all the white notes except the ones that are being sharpened or flattened. For example if you are playing a scale starting at G you play F# instead of F. THIS IS THE SIMPLEST WAY TO UNDERSTAND SCALES.
Also concerning the "step" and "two steps", every musician Have heard calls that a "half step" and "whole step". This presentation just multiplies confusion!
As much as this makes sense, there's a whole lot more to actually applying these rules to playing a guitar or piano where the real hard work begins. Getting your fingers in the correct position where there is practically almost no room to deviate between what will sound good to what will sound awful is what will truly test one's perserverance. That borderline between correct and incorrect finger position is truly fine indeed and the ingredient which breaks a lot of people. After knowing these simplest of rules, much time is now spent looking at a keyboard or guitar fret board and ensuring correct positioning and becoming frustrated and de-motivated and I will add your body gets sore if you do not always maintain correct posture - ie back and neck which is when you realize what it's really all about - extraordinarily hard work ( more mental ) and commitment. In effect, you are failing millions of times to create a correct outcome although this could be said of any skill one wishes to master. But learning an instrument is up there with the hardest. That is why only a small percentage actually probably learn.
Sharavana, it's also very interesting to learn how the notes themselves arise from simple divisions of a single vibrating string. It really all comes from the fraction 3/2. Pick a starting frequency (440 Hz is common) and take successive multiplications by 3/2. So, 440*1, 440*3/2, 440*9/4, 440*27/8, 440*81/16, etc. Divide each result by 2 until the result lies between 440 and 880. Get 12 members of that sequence, and allow the 13th to be slightly greater than 880 by dividing by 2 one time less. What you have here is basically the chromatic scale (plus the first note of the second octave). Each note forms a "perfect fifth" with the note before it. In modern music we adjust these frequencies slightly to make each successive note have the same ratio to the next lower frequency (that ratio is the 12th root of 2); this also makes the highest frequency be exactly double the first frequency. That last one that you allowed to be slightly above 880 moves down to exactly 880. This is called the "equal temperament" system. None of the adjustments exceed 1.5% in frequency; the notes are close enough to the ones calculated above to be "accepted" by our minds, but are much easier to work with when it comes to things like transposing keys and so on. Since this process actually produces notes that are perfect fifths to their predecessors, perfect fifths are "neighbors," so to speak. This is why the "circle of fifths" is important in music theory. I think it's just fascinating how it all comes from a simple single string. Our minds accept the adjusted notes, but the fundamental thing that our minds really embrace is that ideal perfect fifth, frequencies with ratio 3/2. Whenever two frequencies are related by a fraction made with small integers, our minds "like the result." As the ratio moves further from such a fraction, we like it less - it starts to sound dissonant to us.
Tone , tone , semi tone , tone , tone , tone , semi tone .... I can see how this would give any beginner confidence to continue , rather than be overwhelmed ..
The most interesting thing about all of this video is how much he departs from the true language of music and rewrites the language. what he calls a step 1 is actually a half step in the language and what he calls a step 2 is actually two half steps and equals 1 step.
On returning to learning music to learn late in my life, it was this whole tone and semi-tone thing which initially confused me. If I were to rule the world (Ha-ha) I would either teach whole tone first, or the full chromatic scale before other scales, because I'm sure one of the difficulties of learning to sing - as a special case - is pitch recognition. Beginning learning with a single scale with tones and semi-tones (ie C for an amateur singer) without knowing where the semitones are, and expecting them to transpose the semi-tone sequence to another key is a real stretch. It is why, I suspect, why some people lose pitch, are pitch deaf, or why some beginners give up. It's learning uphill. We're stuck with history's ramshackle evolution of the scales, sad to say. In any case, many UA-cam videos have helped a great deal in filling gaps that music teachers often leave out.
It is easier to learn music using a guitar than a piano! The so called chromatic scale is very natural on a guitar! A guitar is also better than a violin because you can play chords on a guitar, not so much on a violin. BTW, there is a trade off between speed and melody & harmony. Scale becomes a non factor when you speed up. The faster you play, the more important "repetitive patterns" become. In other words, eventually, it is patterns that dictate music. Modern guitarists call these patterns licks. Music is much simpler than what we really think.
How do you know what I really think? Are you clairvoyant? BTW - I play keyboard, guitar, violin, harmonica (blues harp) and pennywhistle/tinwhistle - "by ear" - although I tend to use my fingers a lot. ; )
I completely disagree. You can't really expect certain notes without knowing exactly what the string is tuned to, and you never have a sense of scales or triads or chords in general, You cannot transpose anything by just moving upwards like it is with piano for example, you have to change strings completely at some point. Guitar is one of the most unintuitive instruments I have learned, I still love it to death :P
But traditional names are important if you want to communicate to any of the 100s of millions of people that already play music, so why not use the correct names of half step and whole step instead of 1 and 2?
Is that a joke? Every music school in the world teaching that, and many music books is standing that what he said. In Hungary or in Japan teaching the music with Kodaly method. That is simple and more useful as this. He wants to evoke the feeling that this is important. The purpose is good, music to explain to jung people but in this way is not so professional as he said that. The video clip is not made good made, but he surely has frankly goal to explain music..... I am from Vienna and also teaching music.
I disagree. I am an accomplished guitarist but struggled for years to learn by "rote memorization". Yes, I learned all the scales, but it was difficult and I never once was presented the concept of the relationship between scales and notes(the building blocks). If I had, it would have made life so much simpler and easier.
I come from Hungary, I went to Kodaly Zoltan Music Elementary School, which was 8 years. I've been to Duncan's seminar, and in his 4 days seminar I've learnt a lot more than in those 8 years. So no, Koday method is not simpler or more useful than Duncan's method.
Duncan Lorien. I am a music teacher with a degree. There is nothing new that you have presented here that is not already taught directly or indirectly in any music method in the world. Stop charging people an arm an a foot for common knowledge that you can find in books eg what you teach as1 step, 2 steps is commonly known as semitone and tone.
Debra Dass Unfortunately, you have missed the key idea - intervals instead of sequences and names. Lorien never said that intervals were not known. But in your phrase there are TWO different things instead of Lorien's one. On Lorien's seminar people get UNDERSTANDING (this is a key thing) of music - (including even reading of notes) in only 3 days. May be it sounds impossible for someone, but it is true. And yes, it is done in 3 days only instead of years that people spend to find key data under mountains of wrong, confused and contradicted information - in a lot of books and articles. I know personally professional musicians, also with a degree, who then graduated Lorian's seminar (I know personally music group leader, a singer, songs writer and some other professional musicians). They found a lot of new in this seminar. Come there and you will see it personally. Wish you all the best.
I was thinking the same thing. Some musicians, such as Thelonious Monk, write in number systems. Those numbers are written over standard notation. Try reading Beethoven's handwritten notations; people will run to standard notes. This system is important, the number system s only a convenience that does nothing for expressing an understanding of music. - Can't even tell what key their in. How do you denote ninths and elevenths with his number system? Move to your right 16 steps?
Debra Dass a ridiculous presentation. I agree whole-heartedly! Nothing to do with “the language” of music ( in terms of communication of emotion or feeling of any kind). If he’s going to mention Debussy...,at least demonstrate! God knows how he landed this gig!
@@AllIn1Studio I'm with you. As I read the comments though, about half say he's opened up the door for them. I'm baffled and aware only that we're all different and somehow they're getting what they wanted in music. I'm self taught and without thinking about it, I simply "coped" the stuff I loved. Then the stuff I loved got more complex but like a baby learning to walk, I didn't give up one bit. Many of the truly gifted popular musicians in my time never held a pencil once to create music, it was done on instruments, some of all of it done without benefit of paper.
Using these patterns and counting along is not an efficient way. You use the visual pattern to instantly identify where all the notes are, then you play them. That is all. You don't count the notes in a chord, unless it's a new chord you never encountered before, you remember how to play each chord. No piece of music says "play a scale of D minor" it has a bunch of notes.
Nothing new there. When you teach a scale you teach the degrees and the intervals formula, that is in this case 2 for a whole tone and 1 for half tone. He is just trying to resell basics concepts for people that want learn notes
This is nothing new....the patterns are simply the intervals between sounds measured in semitones . Music must be learnt aurally, not by numbers. Try playing a melody by thinking counting the semitones separating the different sounds.....good luck with that.....
Typicall boring learning method. Overwhelming people with terms before let them play... Quiet the opposit of learning a language. He is talking about 5 scales, about different chords and the pupil is just not playing. it´s an excellent excample of bad and rigid teaching.
Duncan is the real deal. I participated in one of his music seminars many years ago and what I learned and could do as a result,opened the door to the wonders of composing.
The best 12 minutes of music education I had in my life
I am 40 right now. About 2 years ago I bought a piano for my daughter and by coincidence, I come up the very first day with the idea to count the notes. It worked and I got absolutely shocked how easy it was to count my own chords. It was two years ago and since then almost every day I spend about half an hour a day playing, experimenting and counting steps. After two years I am able to meet with friends and jam together. chords and even melodies are way much more obvious with this method.
surprisingly this method is not being shown even in music schools. kids are forced to memorize tons of chords and notes and they are unable to go out of this box. even one note forgotten is making them lost. this is frustrating and many people just give up.
This method is exciting for its simplicity and excitement is the main drive to play music.
All guitarists know this, you don’t need to learn all minor major sharp or flat, learn the shape of eac one and you know them all, if you don’t need to read music, as guitarists don’t, you don’t need to memorise all the sharps and flats in each scale just the patterns, nothing magical, the skill comes in learning timing, the space in between notes in a scale is music.
His approach is really good for beginners. I did music at school for 200 hours. I didn't get it and thought I was not cut out for it. Years later i joined the choir at church and figured it out from a mathematical perspective. Its really not hard.
I can read music but always suspected that I should have been told something about the patterns of keys on a piano......THANK YOU
As a music teacher I give individual classes on pattern recognition to my students. Works wonderfully and makes it so much easier for them to understand.
I have done several of Duncan's seminars. And they were all life-changing experiences. I know many people that never dared to play music or sing before The Understanding of Music seminar. And now they do. And many of my friends that did it could not sing in tune before they met Duncan and now they do. Highly recommend if you have failed purposes in music or singing. And would like to rehabilitate your abilities in this area.
me too...life changing!
Impressive talk! I'm learning music basics now, and this video just solves many mysteries behind those notations
As a music teacher, this is a great and helpful talk 🎶🎵🤍🥰 and very explicit for those who wants to know more about music theory 🎼
All of you 'dissing' his teaching method, designed specifically to get the raw beginner to understand tonal patterns without being swamped by having to memorize and spew back vast amounts of detail they are not ready for on day one don't want to teach - you want to stroke your egos.
Is he simplistic? Yup, and guess what. He is perfect for the beginner who has never touched an instrument, never heard of thirds and fifths, and on and on.
100% right comment.. great for ANY recreational player..
Being a total beginner and just learning my second scale (A minor) this video has helped connect something my brain was working on but couldn’t consciously put to words. I know there is a lot more to learn but thinking of these scales as patterns works
This is awful, and not because it's simplistic. First off, it's not simplistic. It's just bad, and especially bad for beginners.
I am afraid this is that kind of shortcut that brings you to abbys of being total beginner forever because you "know music in 3 minutes, why study, why practice"
The problem is, he IS swamping the beginner with a couple of unnecessary terms, befor and during the "play".
This works for me, if you experience success early on, you will be more motivated to continue.
Thank You Duncan for breaking this area of music theory down to the simplicity it is. The challenging part is to take the plunge and apply it creatively. My intuition tells me that this can be done well by practicing, experimenting, and SCREWING UP over and again until the knowledge of these steps (algorithms) becomes UNDERSTANDING. I shall post the results of my intuition on my channel by late Jan 2020 or Right Now on soundcloud.
At 5 years of age I learned patterns while being taught "Old Macdonald" starting at F#.
At 68 years of age, after writing and performing several hundred Songs, only now am I learning Music Theory.
I was busy writing and never considered Theory until now.
What he has done here is excellent. Always start learning music theory by learning interval patterns. I know that there are lots of books and online courses that will tell you this, but the way he describes it here is for those who have no idea about anything musical, so it will work, and it may get them hooked. Would like to see his take on musical notation :)
You sir are a teacher extraordinaire. Excellent. Excellentore.
Yes, this data may be taught in traditional school. The problem is that this important data always comes with a lot of clutter that obscures the simplicity. The most important thing is that Duncan has a product. I am a student, not a teacher. I have tried the keyboard, the guitar, the drums and ended up playing the recorder because it was a simple instrument for kids and I could play some simple tunes on it. Pretty much my musical attempts were failure upon failure until I met Duncan. I can say that Duncan was the only person in my life who completely rehabilitated my musical ambitions. His teaching method helped me understand why I was not able to understand music the traditional way and gave me the understanding necessary to play any instrument. Studying with Duncan was very relieving and worth every penny. He put music within my reach and I am forever thankful to him.
@dnewjazz1
Duncan VERY CLEARLY said that traditional names for this "step of one" are not important for now."
So, my question to you is: Are you a deaf professional musician?
@dnewjazz1
Duncan's approach IS FOR "the common person understanding" (YOUR words). It OBVIOUSLY doesn't get into technical musical terms, as he is not teaching any in-depth understanding of musical architecture.
You explained it so simply that I have to learn an instrument again.
So much easier than the method i've learned. Thanks so much!
Duncan is THE BEST!!!!!!!!
Scales are like basic early sentences: "See Jack run down the street". "Do-Re-Me-Fa-So-La-Ti-Do" There are many ways to introduce the subject, but what has to happen is you have to commit them to memory. Personally I think trying to figure out a scale by comparing to the notes (words) on the instrument to what you know it should sound like and correcting your mistakes will get you there faster then memorizing a pattern and then translating that to the instrument. However, there are many ways to get there.
This is how you play a scale: Start at C and play all the white notes. With other keys you play all the white notes except the ones that are being sharpened or flattened. For example if you are playing a scale starting at G you play F# instead of F. THIS IS THE SIMPLEST WAY TO UNDERSTAND SCALES.
Also concerning the "step" and "two steps", every musician Have heard calls that a "half step" and "whole step". This presentation just multiplies confusion!
He is such a great teacher I want him to teach me math
wow! that girl was absolutely beautiful and with such a vibrant smile.
Damn straight.
She surely was - far too young for me (and I'm married), but she really lit up the stage for sure.
Very good way to learn, if you learn one major barre chord on guitar, you know them all, same as minor learn one you know them all.
As much as this makes sense, there's a whole lot more to actually applying these rules to playing a guitar or piano where the real hard work begins. Getting your fingers in the correct position where there is practically almost no room to deviate between what will sound good to what will sound awful is what will truly test one's perserverance. That borderline between correct and incorrect finger position is truly fine indeed and the ingredient which breaks a lot of people.
After knowing these simplest of rules, much time is now spent looking at a keyboard or guitar fret board and ensuring correct positioning and becoming frustrated and de-motivated and I will add your body gets sore if you do not always maintain correct posture - ie back and neck which is when you realize what it's really all about - extraordinarily hard work ( more mental ) and commitment. In effect, you are failing millions of times to create a correct outcome although this could be said of any skill one wishes to master. But learning an instrument is up there with the hardest.
That is why only a small percentage actually probably learn.
This is good info for beginner.this will mean a lot.xcelent presentation
Just fascinating... And it does motivates to learn music.
Sharavana, it's also very interesting to learn how the notes themselves arise from simple divisions of a single vibrating string. It really all comes from the fraction 3/2. Pick a starting frequency (440 Hz is common) and take successive multiplications by 3/2. So, 440*1, 440*3/2, 440*9/4, 440*27/8, 440*81/16, etc. Divide each result by 2 until the result lies between 440 and 880. Get 12 members of that sequence, and allow the 13th to be slightly greater than 880 by dividing by 2 one time less. What you have here is basically the chromatic scale (plus the first note of the second octave). Each note forms a "perfect fifth" with the note before it.
In modern music we adjust these frequencies slightly to make each successive note have the same ratio to the next lower frequency (that ratio is the 12th root of 2); this also makes the highest frequency be exactly double the first frequency. That last one that you allowed to be slightly above 880 moves down to exactly 880. This is called the "equal temperament" system. None of the adjustments exceed 1.5% in frequency; the notes are close enough to the ones calculated above to be "accepted" by our minds, but are much easier to work with when it comes to things like transposing keys and so on.
Since this process actually produces notes that are perfect fifths to their predecessors, perfect fifths are "neighbors," so to speak. This is why the "circle of fifths" is important in music theory.
I think it's just fascinating how it all comes from a simple single string. Our minds accept the adjusted notes, but the fundamental thing that our minds really embrace is that ideal perfect fifth, frequencies with ratio 3/2. Whenever two frequencies are related by a fraction made with small integers, our minds "like the result." As the ratio moves further from such a fraction, we like it less - it starts to sound dissonant to us.
Tone , tone , semi tone , tone , tone , tone , semi tone .... I can see how this would give any beginner confidence to continue , rather than be overwhelmed ..
The most interesting thing about all of this video is how much he departs from the true language of music and rewrites the language. what he calls a step 1 is actually a half step in the language and what he calls a step 2 is actually two half steps and equals 1 step.
When you go from a B to a C note, or an E to an F. Is that a half step or a full step? Always wanted to know officially what these 2 are
@@jasonbull3987 B to C and E to F are half steps.
On returning to learning music to learn late in my life, it was this whole tone and semi-tone thing which initially confused me. If I were to rule the world (Ha-ha) I would either teach whole tone first, or the full chromatic scale before other scales, because I'm sure one of the difficulties of learning to sing - as a special case - is pitch recognition.
Beginning learning with a single scale with tones and semi-tones (ie C for an amateur singer) without knowing where the semitones are, and expecting them to transpose the semi-tone sequence to another key is a real stretch. It is why, I suspect, why some people lose pitch, are pitch deaf, or why some beginners give up. It's learning uphill.
We're stuck with history's ramshackle evolution of the scales, sad to say.
In any case, many UA-cam videos have helped a great deal in filling gaps that music teachers often leave out.
WOW! THANK YOU!
I would love to be his student. I understand his method
Wow. Excellent work. Thanks
extraordinary, the encouragement is amazing!
My left earbud went numb
How many notes in the diatonic scale ?Good point about gaps between notes and not notes or tones themselves
This pattern also works on the bass guitar
II love this!! Thank you
Very helpful stuff this. Thank you, sir.
dude...the italian translations...scala azzurri?
"Tutta la scala del tono"? Ne vogliamo parlare?
"BLUES" hahahahahah they put it on Google Translator "Blues Scale" OMFG
Bellissimo, geniale
Excelente. Gracias
Amazing and veeeeeery useful
This dude’s called D’lorean.
If i have a kid, that'd be a nice name. i'd make sure he never drives 88mph though
THANK YOU
I was so afraid that he was going to have a stroke!
The patterns are not the music. How the patterns sound and how it sounds to connect patterns is music.
can we use these scales to create chords ?
A ted talk for this? Oooofff
Sadly I know this already and this is the technique i used from beginning
Can you pls share me the numbers patterns for melodic minor
They couldn't have bothered to remove that high-pitched whine from the entire length of the video?
It is easier to learn music using a guitar than a piano! The so called chromatic scale is very natural on a guitar! A guitar is also better than a violin because you can play chords on a guitar, not so much on a violin. BTW, there is a trade off between speed and melody & harmony. Scale becomes a non factor when you speed up. The faster you play, the more important "repetitive patterns" become. In other words, eventually, it is patterns that dictate music. Modern guitarists call these patterns licks. Music is much simpler than what we really think.
How do you know what I really think? Are you clairvoyant?
BTW - I play keyboard, guitar, violin, harmonica (blues harp) and pennywhistle/tinwhistle - "by ear" - although I tend to use my fingers a lot. ; )
I completely disagree. You can't really expect certain notes without knowing exactly what the string is tuned to, and you never have a sense of scales or triads or chords in general, You cannot transpose anything by just moving upwards like it is with piano for example, you have to change strings completely at some point. Guitar is one of the most unintuitive instruments I have learned, I still love it to death :P
The girl! =)
Når hun kom på scenen jeg glemte hva jeg skal konsentrere meg på :).
TED brings "VINCI's GIOCONDA " to play on the keyboard .
But traditional names are important if you want to communicate to any of the 100s of millions of people that already play music, so why not use the correct names of half step and whole step instead of 1 and 2?
WHO is responsible for the sound????? 1 ear sound yeah great idea
Looks like 1st grade lesson of music school.
Is that a joke? Every music school in the world teaching that, and many music books is standing that what he said.
In Hungary or in Japan teaching the music with Kodaly method. That is simple and more useful as this.
He wants to evoke the feeling that this is important. The purpose is good, music to explain to jung people but in this way
is not so professional as he said that.
The video clip is not made good made, but he surely has frankly goal to explain music.....
I am from Vienna and also teaching music.
Musik für alle! Your English is so bad that what you wrote makes no sense at all
Musik für alle! 😊
It IS a joke
I disagree. I am an accomplished guitarist but struggled for years to learn by "rote memorization". Yes, I learned all the scales, but it was difficult and I never once was presented the concept of the relationship between scales and notes(the building blocks). If I had, it would have made life so much simpler and easier.
I come from Hungary, I went to Kodaly Zoltan Music Elementary School, which was 8 years. I've been to Duncan's seminar, and in his 4 days seminar I've learnt a lot more than in those 8 years. So no, Koday method is not simpler or more useful than Duncan's method.
Equal temperament. Music is for public and not just for experts. The musical theory should have two version: one for experts, one for non-experts.
Is this Tedx Talks Kids Edition?
Duncan Lorien. I am a music teacher with a degree. There is nothing new that you have presented here that is not already taught directly or indirectly in any music method in the world. Stop charging people an arm an a foot for common knowledge that you can find in books eg what you teach as1 step, 2 steps is commonly known as semitone and tone.
Debra Dass Unfortunately, you have missed the key idea - intervals instead of sequences and names. Lorien never said that intervals were not known. But in your phrase there are TWO different things instead of Lorien's one. On Lorien's seminar people get UNDERSTANDING (this is a key thing) of music - (including even reading of notes) in only 3 days. May be it sounds impossible for someone, but it is true. And yes, it is done in 3 days only instead of years that people spend to find key data under mountains of wrong, confused and contradicted information - in a lot of books and articles. I know personally professional musicians, also with a degree, who then graduated Lorian's seminar (I know personally music group leader, a singer, songs writer and some other professional musicians). They found a lot of new in this seminar. Come there and you will see it personally. Wish you all the best.
You have no Idea what Duncan is teaching in His Seminars.. of course Not, You are a Music teacher 🤗
I was thinking the same thing. Some musicians, such as Thelonious Monk, write in number systems. Those numbers are written over standard notation. Try reading Beethoven's handwritten notations; people will run to standard notes. This system is important, the number system s only a convenience that does nothing for expressing an understanding of music. - Can't even tell what key their in. How do you denote ninths and elevenths with his number system? Move to your right 16 steps?
Debra Dass a ridiculous presentation. I agree whole-heartedly! Nothing to do with “the language” of music ( in terms of communication of emotion or feeling of any kind). If he’s going to mention Debussy...,at least demonstrate! God knows how he landed this gig!
@@AllIn1Studio I'm with you. As I read the comments though, about half say he's opened up the door for them. I'm baffled and aware only that we're all different and somehow they're getting what they wanted in music. I'm self taught and without thinking about it, I simply "coped" the stuff I loved. Then the stuff I loved got more complex but like a baby learning to walk, I didn't give up one bit. Many of the truly gifted popular musicians in my time never held a pencil once to create music, it was done on instruments, some of all of it done without benefit of paper.
Well isn't this 'volunteer ' cute.
Using these patterns and counting along is not an efficient way. You use the visual pattern to instantly identify where all the notes are, then you play them. That is all. You don't count the notes in a chord, unless it's a new chord you never encountered before, you remember how to play each chord. No piece of music says "play a scale of D minor" it has a bunch of notes.
JEEZ how old is the audience.......5-year olds?
1;28 anyone can learn.Not equal ...ever make some music,
I reckon he wears a Cpap at night
My headphones disliked this video
A mediocre beginner's lesson blown up into a TED talk, ha ha, so funny
Nothing new there. When you teach a scale you teach the degrees and the intervals formula, that is in this case 2 for a whole tone and 1 for half tone. He is just trying to resell basics concepts for people that want learn notes
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This is nothing new....the patterns are simply the intervals between sounds measured in semitones . Music must be learnt aurally, not by numbers. Try playing a melody by thinking counting the semitones separating the different sounds.....good luck with that.....
Blatent plagiarism. That idea is well understood by any muscian and it's many centuries old.
The point was to make us completely amateur, non-musicians understand it.
Are you kidding?! Ridiculous presentation. Nothing to do with “the LANGUAGE of music” per se.
The nose breathing ruined this for me.
Why is he talking so slowly? Is he addressing Trump voters?
Typicall boring learning method. Overwhelming people with terms before let them play... Quiet the opposit of learning a language. He is talking about 5 scales, about different chords and the pupil is just not playing.
it´s an excellent excample of bad and rigid teaching.