Ancient Rhythms, Modern Technology | Elijah Aaron | TEDxOhioStateUniversity

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  • Опубліковано 15 бер 2015
  • In this talk, Elijah is a one-man band. He uses technology such as a looper and a synthetic drum, in addition to a guitar and his voice to create fantastic musical pieces. The looper allows Elijah to add and subtract layers of sound and music as he improvises the song.
    Elija Aaron Palnik is a faculty member in the Dance Department at Ohio State who also tours across the country performing as a one-man-band.
    This talk was given at a TEDx event using the TED conference format but independently organized by a local community. Learn more at ted.com/tedx

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  • @elijahaaron
    @elijahaaron 3 роки тому +53

    Elijah from the video here :) Swing by channel for some new loop videos! Thanks for all the love!

  • @TheSoloistic
    @TheSoloistic 3 роки тому +154

    This made my heart smile. this is a man who found his calling.

  • @mannygotdahits6534
    @mannygotdahits6534 4 роки тому +256

    he's basically a music producer. that drum thing is insane. he has mad drum skills forreal.

    • @dreamcyfer7793
      @dreamcyfer7793 2 роки тому

      Try it... a couple hundred for that Korg drum, sure,but worth it....It is easier than you think, let your inner monkey go wild and you'll be surprised!

    • @gregoryhwin
      @gregoryhwin Рік тому +4

      Mad percussion skills, indeed!

    • @redneczgonewild
      @redneczgonewild Рік тому +1

      @@gregoryhwin when he got down into that drummer “bobbing” I knew we were in for a treat as far as percussion goes.

    • @colinbyne6940
      @colinbyne6940 Рік тому +1

      I play drums and that’s just a machine
      What mad drumming skills
      Drummers use four limbs and sit behind a drum kit they have spent 1000’s of hours practicing and perfecting their playing.
      Percussionist’s have done the same
      With various percussion instruments
      And practiced and played till their fingers bled.
      Both drummer and percussionist have perfected their instruments, learning what sounds they can achieve from stick or hand.
      All of a sudden drums and percussion become one
      People started calling percussionist a drummer and drummer being called percussionists
      Those who played drums would say “I’m not a percussionist, I am a drummer” and the percussionist would say “I am a percussionist, not a drummer” only to be ignored and still labelled as one
      Then we get replaced by a machine in the 80’s and people start saying about that machine “wow amazing drum skills”
      As time goes on we know have people impersonating drum sounds with their mouths are they get called “human beat box” and again the “wow amazing drum skills” is used
      Now a machine with pads and every drum and percussion sound sampled into it
      Rendering both drum kits and percussion instruments to be pushed even further away
      And again the term “wow amazing drum skills”?
      No
      He is not a drummer
      He is not a percussionist
      He is just a guitar strummer using pads on a machine.
      A sample box and impersonates a drum kit
      No mad skills in drumming
      Yes I take bloody offence to the usage of “Mad drumming skills”

    • @davidjackson787
      @davidjackson787 Рік тому +2

      ​@@colinbyne6940 lol, waste of energy mate.

  • @gmichaelprice668
    @gmichaelprice668 4 роки тому +3

    This was about a fusion of African rhythms and modern folk-pop. Very nicely done. It was not about sequencing for rude those comments below.

  • @modrammeh2400
    @modrammeh2400 2 роки тому +40

    That was amazing! My father is from The Gambia! This is exactly what our country (All countries) NEED!

  • @greyfoxeye
    @greyfoxeye 4 роки тому +464

    I feel like a lot of people are missing the point of this performance. Its not intended to be a history lesson; rather a physical demonstration of how technology has removed limitations previously insurmountable to individuals, and how inspiration can be drawn from all areas of life, as opposed to our socialized stereotypes.

    • @frankoflight1128
      @frankoflight1128 4 роки тому +23

      And plus he's a cool guy and he's able to talk about his passion in a hilarious and attractive way. That's what the people are missing.

    • @mattasticmattattack8546
      @mattasticmattattack8546 3 роки тому +6

      Bro where you get your shrooms?

    • @b52_vishwajeetpatil99
      @b52_vishwajeetpatil99 3 роки тому +1

      Ian which country broda

    • @omnigar9611
      @omnigar9611 3 роки тому +7

      the lesson you take from it is the lesson you need. don't put limitation's on it

    • @jamesjones-qs4ol
      @jamesjones-qs4ol 2 роки тому +1

      Exactly on point bro. Absolutely true.

  • @nmikloiche
    @nmikloiche 4 роки тому +58

    I got the Paul Simon album b/c of "You Can Call Me Al' but I have this very clear memory of hearing "Diamonds on the Soles of Her Shoes" for the first time. It was like nothing I ever heard before. Mixing a pop song over top of of this very ancient sounding tribal rhythm was like speaking two languages at the same time, but having it make sense. It just below my young mind away. I have a similar memory of "'Darling Nikki' from Prince, "Cult of Snap" by Snap, and 'Rush' by Big Audio Dynamite.

  • @TheTruthKiwi
    @TheTruthKiwi Рік тому +7

    Elijah is talented and he knows how to entertain. Very clever technique warming everyone up with his improv bit and then blowing everyone away with the S & G cover. Bravo

  • @jaingaobo9705
    @jaingaobo9705 5 років тому +51

    The man who invented this dude was a genius

    • @roycecaraveo9256
      @roycecaraveo9256 4 роки тому +1

      Very underrated but very true you deserve a like sir **tips hat

    • @afonsotatiano8239
      @afonsotatiano8239 2 роки тому +6

      God invented him. A reflection of God HIMSELF.

    • @robertwintersteen3065
      @robertwintersteen3065 Рік тому +3

      I imagine a woman was involved in the discussion.

    • @dearred2923
      @dearred2923 Рік тому

      @@afonsotatiano8239 I was about to say exactly what you said but you already said it so I don't have to. Thanks 👍

  • @anujraymajhi812
    @anujraymajhi812 6 років тому +131

    he enjoys what he do!
    see his smiles while he play songs!

    • @zz4165
      @zz4165 2 роки тому

      Vallah?

  • @STUDIOPHOENIX-UK
    @STUDIOPHOENIX-UK 2 роки тому +4

    Another example of how technology has allowed pure raw talent to SHINE ✨

    • @naturalnice
      @naturalnice 2 роки тому

      surely you mean how technology has enabled whites to to create some semblance of sophisticated and intricate polyrhythmic music previously only produced by Blacks,

    • @STUDIOPHOENIX-UK
      @STUDIOPHOENIX-UK 2 роки тому

      @@naturalnice what a toxic comment, no that is far from what I meant!

    • @naturalnice
      @naturalnice 2 роки тому

      Unpalatable truths are often considered toxic, Hence we have the maxim "Bitter Truth".

    • @STUDIOPHOENIX-UK
      @STUDIOPHOENIX-UK 2 роки тому

      @@naturalnice who are you to tell me, what i “meant to say”?. You may have your views on how to read my comment and that is fine, however that in know way overrides my own. take your “bitter truth” and troll someone else

    • @naturalnice
      @naturalnice 2 роки тому

      @@STUDIOPHOENIX-UK We understand....truth hurts.... But Truth stands irrefutable

  • @out9of9Aeo
    @out9of9Aeo Рік тому +5

    50 some years dancing and teaching, OMG how I wish to have had a musician of this level 🙏

  • @bigbore4498
    @bigbore4498 4 роки тому +293

    This is what a guitar, a looper, a Korg wavedrum, a ton of talent, and 2 tons of pot will get you.

    • @blackforest2808
      @blackforest2808 3 роки тому +9

      thank you, was looking for the name of the drum looper

    • @omnigar9611
      @omnigar9611 3 роки тому +16

      he did say " a big bag of chill" lol

    • @jonathanfelso
      @jonathanfelso 3 роки тому +11

      ...don't forget the beard. Can't do any of it without that facial acoustic treatment.

    • @jeffreyparish8393
      @jeffreyparish8393 2 роки тому +5

      Congratulations of winning comment of the year last year

    • @darilphillips4949
      @darilphillips4949 2 роки тому +2

      Not Wrong on to it Yeah?

  • @jakemasters2674
    @jakemasters2674 4 роки тому +7

    I like how genuinely he enjoys his career

  • @meenboli
    @meenboli Рік тому +1

    Now this is a man who understands music.
    Constructed back to front somehow.
    Total admiration. F’in brilliant.

  • @xanderzwemstra5950
    @xanderzwemstra5950 5 років тому +7

    You can not be unhappy after watching this

  • @dominiquedourneau7425
    @dominiquedourneau7425 4 роки тому +1

    Music will bring worlds together always...

  • @sumsumb778
    @sumsumb778 Рік тому

    Unforgettable talk.

  • @13thBear
    @13thBear 6 років тому +100

    Man! All dat music going on his head at da same time! He making it up as he goes. He's a magic man, he is.

    • @reecedeyoung6595
      @reecedeyoung6595 6 років тому +2

      13thBear well technically it's not all going on at once. He just has to come up with a new part that will compliment the underlying parts. Which is not to say it's not impressive.

    • @zephirol4638
      @zephirol4638 6 років тому +2

      13th Bear: Just as Reece stated, it's not nearly as complicated as you're making it out to be and honestly any adept musician should be able to do it. Though his style is very fun and interesting.

    • @upplsuckimcool16
      @upplsuckimcool16 6 років тому +1

      I'm not sure it's that hard though.....
      but again I even commetned on this video, "i never liked loopers" but I liked this guy.... he was entertaining.

    • @EvaluateAssimilate
      @EvaluateAssimilate 5 років тому +1

      Once you're practiced in the instrument, there's a lot of head space left to create since it is not filled with learning and the effort that comes with focus. Once you have that head space, it becomes easier to "vocalise" those melodies that pop in and out of your head. Loopers are great for this as you're then able to record one line of melody whilst complimenting it with many other phrases that you see fit. Music is alchemy, music is remedy, music is the key of life. Whether you're a consumer or creator, like math, it's a language the world understands and, should, appreciate.

  • @choloverde
    @choloverde 4 роки тому +15

    Didn’t realize that I was about to watch a looper show when I played this, but now I have another great looper to look for! Awesome!

  • @sokhaktham476
    @sokhaktham476 6 років тому +228

    This guy deserved more recognition!

    • @jackik1410
      @jackik1410 6 років тому +2

      I have to say though that he does seem a bit like a child, hitting the drum-synth. He also seemed to have misjudged the microphones a bit. His music is otherwise very nice.

    • @sabanu899
      @sabanu899 4 роки тому +3

      @@jackik1410 That's how you hit a drum!

    • @jackik1410
      @jackik1410 4 роки тому

      @@sabanu899 99% of it, yeah, posing afterwards? No ^^

    • @sabanu899
      @sabanu899 4 роки тому +4

      @@jackik1410 That's not posing that's the feel you get when you get the tune right!

    • @BRedFilms
      @BRedFilms 4 роки тому +1

      He would be more recognized if he wasn't such a dork lol.

  • @jamesbowerman5477
    @jamesbowerman5477 5 років тому +72

    Man he's talented..all that going on in his head at once and improvising it?? Just FLOWING with it..loved it. I'd liked to have heard a LOT more of his improv. I got to look up more about him..amazing talent and he loves it so much.

    • @kierancreighton96
      @kierancreighton96 2 роки тому +1

      Its not in is head its quite literally looping in projection

    • @paulcondren610
      @paulcondren610 Рік тому +1

      I love what your doing. The world needs to hear you Sir. Love the music . Your brilliant .

  • @moroudurmarog8995
    @moroudurmarog8995 4 роки тому +9

    I've seen a lot of people using loop stations but this man got them vibes right

  • @christophharriso653
    @christophharriso653 5 років тому +198

    "You're a wizard Harry!"

  • @BobbyDsouza
    @BobbyDsouza 4 роки тому +20

    this is brilliant , loved the seamless conversation with the audience and his on the spot creative music creation

  • @swissaroo
    @swissaroo Рік тому +2

    Where has this guy been hiding? A creative force, unique no his understanding of rhythms and musicology, and then his flair and talent for improvising and adding his own layers that touch us all on a deeper primal level. A lot of artists are overrated but this man is underrated! I will follow him hereon!

  • @semperparatus3685
    @semperparatus3685 4 роки тому +7

    If this man stood between a Portland protest and started playing we may get pummeled but I'd stand with him for peace and music! Just one big bag of chill indeed.

  • @thomashoyle2997
    @thomashoyle2997 Рік тому +5

    I got myself a drum machine/looper pedal earlier this year (Boss RC10R) and, even as a fairly accomplished guitarist and semi-okay drummer, most wouldn't believe how hard what he's doing with that pedal is.

  • @rockeysingh8841
    @rockeysingh8841 Рік тому +3

    Phenomenal is all I can humbly offer. Truly Phenomenally Phenomenal.

  • @Faus4us
    @Faus4us Рік тому +1

    He is in the zone. Looks like so much fun!

  • @didcomusic
    @didcomusic 2 роки тому +7

    Yes , rhythms are so important in music. And most powerfull is the creativity associated. Creativity often comes when you take an idea from its original context and you move it somewhere else; it's amazing. I love the magic moment where things are different and interesting but stay in the same format .

  • @noahbeljaars4345
    @noahbeljaars4345 5 років тому +6

    Paul Simon is like my favorite person ever, and when i heard him say he was gonna play paul simon i got so happy

  • @tatin3736
    @tatin3736 5 років тому +15

    That's the soul of music....i am from india ...our urban music something connected with african music...for that reason i loved very much that type of music.....
    AND HATS OF TO U WHAT A ARRANGEMENT AND TIMING....SALUTE..

  • @lisab7798
    @lisab7798 3 роки тому +9

    I love everything about this guy! Even the beard, it fits his fun, creative personality. Big 👍

  • @divinecomedy0
    @divinecomedy0 Рік тому +2

    I am mesmerized by his talent and rhythm. He’s totally in the zone with his creativity. I imagine him in a blissful state as he creates these orchestral pieces. BrAvo!!

  • @aryavijaykumar4700
    @aryavijaykumar4700 Рік тому

    Thank you all very much

  • @jasonpalgon7141
    @jasonpalgon7141 4 роки тому +2

    I had a bad day today. But this guy got me dancing. Thanks!!

  • @mangayidagoloh2380
    @mangayidagoloh2380 2 роки тому

    WOOOOY ELIJAH AARON YOU REALLY KNOW YOUR THING

  • @NAMADJIRA
    @NAMADJIRA Рік тому +1

    Shalom, very good !

  • @zacherysellards4275
    @zacherysellards4275 Рік тому +3

    Bro you are unbelievably talented! Just your first little song was amazing! Thank you!

  • @thabangcucu2649
    @thabangcucu2649 Рік тому +1

    Wish I could have that thing never seen something like that in real life, I'm so blown away that's real talent it comes from deep within him it's in his head and his heart, the inventor's of that machine are super intelligent

  • @freddieendencio3480
    @freddieendencio3480 5 років тому +8

    I like the way he drums. :-)

  • @EmmanuelCuny
    @EmmanuelCuny Рік тому +5

    An accomplished musician indeed! And a real drummer, I like it!

  • @mellmorus
    @mellmorus 2 роки тому +1

    you, are born to entertain!! luv it!

  • @zikermu
    @zikermu 5 років тому +2

    This guy is really great. He breathes and sweats rhythmic music .

  • @Trendset01
    @Trendset01 2 роки тому

    es ist unglaublich was er da macht

  • @jimmyscott7414
    @jimmyscott7414 Рік тому +3

    One big bag of chill ❤️
    I’ve watched a lot of loop videos and this is one of the best. Dude has talent.

  • @storycorps1234
    @storycorps1234 Рік тому

    One of my favorites

  • @treborironwolfe978
    @treborironwolfe978 5 років тому +3

    "Diamonds on her Shoes" = "Swallow your pride". Thank you, it all makes sense to me now. Greatly enjoyed your Talk :)

  • @noblekman
    @noblekman Рік тому +2

    The musical soul of the likes of Vusi Mahlasela and Johnny Clegg. You're definitely top 100 best musicians in the world right now, Trust

  • @practice_Chinese_yoga
    @practice_Chinese_yoga 3 роки тому +5

    Absolutely a stunning inspiration!

  • @jackchevanty
    @jackchevanty 3 роки тому

    Glad to see you still doing well and spreading the love, old friend. Be good.

  • @TebogoMotlhale
    @TebogoMotlhale 2 роки тому +1

    he's UNBELIEVABLE ! he has completely broken free of his cultural limitations to truly explore and understand deeply what lies BEYOND the life of a stereotype :)

  • @TheSportsPROgram
    @TheSportsPROgram Рік тому +1

    Technology but also lots of talent involved .....that was great .....

  • @jonasisrael1359
    @jonasisrael1359 Рік тому +1

    Incredible! This will make your heart smile and your mind sing, as the hair on the back of your neck stands at attention.

  • @fshalor738
    @fshalor738 Рік тому +1

    Stuff like this is awesome. Dovadas is another core one-man band exemplar of the tech finally coming even with what people can do in their minds.

  • @jendakafec7631
    @jendakafec7631 Рік тому +1

    Bought this record for my mom after seeing the concert after midnight on polish channel back in Czechoslovakia when I was 14 yrs old
    Run to the store next day and had to have it... it was crazy expensive then... of course I played it 🙃 most of the time

  • @DavidStockford
    @DavidStockford 2 роки тому +1

    His drumming skills are amazing

  • @norbertb.
    @norbertb. 2 роки тому

    Thank you 🙏🏻

  • @Ajglasspick
    @Ajglasspick 6 років тому +19

    What a phenomenal musician, let alone percussionist! I love when I feel and see music, I hear music all the time, but when I see it and feel it it becomes an experience. I don't mean seeing it being performed either, I mean visualizing the experience. Love you man, great job, your an inspiration.

  • @mollypinto4666
    @mollypinto4666 Рік тому +1

    You're amazing. Thank you for sharing. Love love loved it 💓

  • @davidcertain2492
    @davidcertain2492 Рік тому +6

    I’m blown away by the depth of this human. That he is connected to dance academia rather than a “jazz” program it shows us the purpose and where this music wants to go.

  • @geemorgan3161
    @geemorgan3161 5 років тому +686

    I used to be in a one man band, but we split up due to musical differences.

    • @ThePapjort
      @ThePapjort 5 років тому +6

      Spot on :) :) :)

    • @greywolf271
      @greywolf271 5 років тому +16

      Was it a harmonious separation or did you feel flat ?

    • @geemorgan3161
      @geemorgan3161 5 років тому +7

      @@greywolf271 Harmonious, unfortunately.

    • @dhirajgawande007
      @dhirajgawande007 5 років тому +1

      😂😂😂

    • @Tomzupp
      @Tomzupp 4 роки тому +5

      Because of schyzophreny

  • @uchenwobodo6346
    @uchenwobodo6346 2 роки тому

    Music has no boundaries. Thank you for this.

  • @nikrusty
    @nikrusty 6 років тому +13

    Wow, super fantastic. So much fun and rhythm!

  • @essexisbest
    @essexisbest Рік тому +3

    Oh my God, what a great tribute to one of my favorite songs. Incredibly well done!!! Love this performance and demonstration of a game changing technology!

  • @sourabhmukherjee7461
    @sourabhmukherjee7461 Рік тому

    Speechless

  • @kenbaker9738
    @kenbaker9738 Рік тому +2

    What a wonderfully brilliant performance. It seems as tho he has more talent in his little finger than most of have in our whole body.

  • @remington-michael-1969
    @remington-michael-1969 5 років тому +3

    This is awesome. I use to go see a band down in Florida (back in the early 90's) called Future Perfect. The were a brother-sister team who used looping like this. They could turn the two of them and their instruments/vocals into a full symphony. This kind of creativity is just amazing to me. Thank you.

    • @mechanix1960
      @mechanix1960 5 років тому +2

      If you're interested in, just have a look at DOVYDAS here on YT. Very similar eqipment and a great musician, too!

  • @Sam-de8tc
    @Sam-de8tc 5 років тому +3

    The last song makes me happy

    • @gezenbilir8438
      @gezenbilir8438 5 років тому

      officially sam What is it name The last song?

  • @FelFree
    @FelFree Рік тому

    His Rhythms are Outstanding
    Ancestry Flows through
    God Bless

  • @evolutiondailiam7733
    @evolutiondailiam7733 Рік тому

    why do this beautiful thing jst pop up after 7 years? i feel good even jst found out this artfull music.

  • @kontessadous8397
    @kontessadous8397 Рік тому +1

    Damnnnn and that’s how he’s making people fall head over heals for him!! I’ve got goosebumps!! Hope he has more content on the internet!!

  • @marcosaracastro597
    @marcosaracastro597 4 роки тому

    ELIJAH AARON RULES! 🎉🎉🎉

  • @liamcampbellhaha
    @liamcampbellhaha 4 роки тому +234

    Came for an interesting talks on the different rhythms of history, got a guy fascinated by a loop pedal...

    • @E2kiwik
      @E2kiwik 4 роки тому +12

      ha ha yes ! i was : "And now that you have finished making fun with this looper, can you tell us more about the relation between these ancient rhythms and that modern technology?" XD

    • @liamcampbellhaha
      @liamcampbellhaha 4 роки тому +16

      @@E2kiwik It should have been maybe a minute, explaining his kit, then used it to talk about rhythms of the world, how they differ, where they come from, where their influence pops up in popular music etc. - that's the ted talk I came for!

    • @alexsmith8987
      @alexsmith8987 4 роки тому +1

      @@liamcampbellhaha
      AB-SO-LUTELY

    • @liamcampbellhaha
      @liamcampbellhaha 4 роки тому +2

      @@thebongwizard. I came to learn about ancient rhythms, his talk was more about the loop pedal, which is nothing interesting or special

    • @lisakayreed
      @lisakayreed 3 роки тому +4

      I really don’t think any of you would know an “ancient rhythm” if it came up to you and bit you on the a%%.

  • @thelondoners-lifeisart
    @thelondoners-lifeisart 3 роки тому

    Elijah Elijah you shine bright my friend xxxxxx

  • @bobhancock8630
    @bobhancock8630 Рік тому +1

    You just got me high Sir... for free. Thank you.

    • @nicknaylor1698
      @nicknaylor1698 Рік тому

      This guy is a great companion when one is on a psychedelic trip. Playing the guitar and stuff great fun guy. Good vibrations!

  • @MsJocelynC
    @MsJocelynC 4 роки тому +1

    You’re an incredibly skilled human and a pleasure to watch.

  • @steveelam4810
    @steveelam4810 6 років тому +15

    Best I've heard all day,a positive for you tube this time

  • @LAVISHING
    @LAVISHING Рік тому

    Absolutely amazing!

  • @Patina.Street
    @Patina.Street 2 роки тому +1

    Amazing!!!! The Best song!

  • @worlds8843
    @worlds8843 4 роки тому +1

    he's just enjoying life I love it!!!

  • @sfar024
    @sfar024 4 роки тому +3

    I was just thinking of Paul Simon as you were creating your track. Love diamond on the souls of shoes.

  • @sargammusicstation1999
    @sargammusicstation1999 5 років тому +2

    A grand salute to you and your talent sir 💐💐

  • @dearred2923
    @dearred2923 Рік тому

    This guy is awesome

  • @Patina.Street
    @Patina.Street 2 роки тому +1

    amazing musician and with a very good mood
    open a gateway to musical possibilities...I loved your style.Drums from Africa,Beatbox....

  • @tsuni-versetiajaellis5709
    @tsuni-versetiajaellis5709 5 років тому

    Brilliant transference of creative energy!

  • @livemusic1184
    @livemusic1184 5 років тому

    Love this song

  • @InterWebGuy99
    @InterWebGuy99 6 років тому +24

    Every one who enjoyed this should check out Dovydas on UA-cam. He's the master of looping and has dozens of amazing songs in all genres.

  • @johncunningham8344
    @johncunningham8344 5 років тому

    Beautiful and inspiring.

  • @ToadstoolNgema
    @ToadstoolNgema Рік тому

    so beautiful and organic.

  • @j0tt0
    @j0tt0 4 роки тому

    That percussion is sick

  • @craig4002
    @craig4002 5 років тому +12

    Well done guy. You sound legit. His flare with the drums is the best tho XD

  • @kristianpersson7127
    @kristianpersson7127 2 роки тому +1

    Amazing. 👍🤟👍

  • @leolightwork
    @leolightwork 4 роки тому +2

    6 minutes in and that improv was really dope Elijah straight loop master 🤘🏼

  • @professorpopkiss
    @professorpopkiss Рік тому

    Markus K. uses the Korg Wave Drum. fantastic session btw. Loved it.

  • @unishema
    @unishema 5 років тому

    This makes me so happy

  • @lordghast1845
    @lordghast1845 6 років тому +6

    Music is so amusing

  • @view5558
    @view5558 Рік тому

    Fantastic.

  • @tqoe62
    @tqoe62 Рік тому

    I really enjoyed that so much.