Did Toyota Make The New 2024 Tundra Better?

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  • Опубліковано 10 лют 2025

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  • @Tryagain205
    @Tryagain205 Рік тому +83

    In two more years TFL be like:
    You can get window tint for an extra $35,000, so it’s a pretty good deal…

  • @citizenpark2782
    @citizenpark2782 Рік тому +137

    😂 I love how Andre avoided answering Roman’s question about missing the V8. 😅

    • @gpaje
      @gpaje Рік тому +9

      The RAM is going them. I guess that leaves Ford and GM as the only V8 engine options in the full size class.

    • @gpaje
      @gpaje Рік тому +11

      @TheRealCatof Not like the Tundra has been trouble free since it's launch either, buying a new truck and having them remove the cab to replace a turbo isn't ideal either.

    • @moonman_8935
      @moonman_8935 Рік тому +9

      @@gpaje The Nissan Titan had the most reliable bulletproof N/A V8.

    • @gpaje
      @gpaje Рік тому +1

      @moonman_8935 okay, but we weren't talking about the Nissan?

    • @Darkhammer125
      @Darkhammer125 Рік тому +5

      ​@TheRealCatofidk, regular maintenance of the coyote engine will be bulletproof

  • @mjk2374
    @mjk2374 Рік тому +133

    Make it 55 or 60K and it's a maybe. Even then, that's a lot of money. 74K is just silly.

    • @tomjohnson8737
      @tomjohnson8737 Рік тому +4

      Try ram trx and ford f150 raptor. Its 100k and up

    • @spinfish1434
      @spinfish1434 Рік тому +13

      It’s closer to $80k with TAX, Delivery and all the other BS they tack on in the finance office 🤮

    • @johnfranktullo3463
      @johnfranktullo3463 Рік тому +10

      What world r u living in ? Those days were about 10-15 years ago

    • @mikehughes8023
      @mikehughes8023 Рік тому +6

      They are in the TRD Pro model which starts at $72K. You can get a similarly optioned Limited for about $60K or an SR5 for around $55K.

    • @bobbymueller3680
      @bobbymueller3680 Рік тому +9

      I bought my ‘21 Pro 2 years ago new & it was 17K less than this.

  • @J.W.W.
    @J.W.W. Рік тому +275

    Make it better by bringing back the 5.7! A simple SR5 with low options and old tech reliable for $35,000

    • @killerb5726
      @killerb5726 Рік тому +60

      Never going to happen so we might as well move on. We can stop the push for electric if we start electing the right people on both the local and federal level.

    • @omardevonlittle3817
      @omardevonlittle3817 Рік тому

      ​@@killerb5726if voting mattered they wouldn't let you do it. You vote at the ballot box. The real votes are cashed with dollars. Millions of em.

    • @johnfranktullo3463
      @johnfranktullo3463 Рік тому

      U need to get over this v8 fascination they are not , repeat not coming back it’s like the dodo bird , dinosaurs it’s just not and that goes for the other manufacturers and why ? It’s the government stupid

    • @manoloprpr
      @manoloprpr Рік тому +32

      75k is the new 35k sadly

    • @ernestscott1076
      @ernestscott1076 Рік тому +8

      Why? It's not happening

  • @shanemb3
    @shanemb3 Рік тому +81

    These high prices shouldn’t just be accepted as the norm.

    • @Mills117
      @Mills117 Рік тому +2

      People are buying them so why wouldn't it durrr

    • @redclaw72666
      @redclaw72666 Рік тому +2

      Bought mine love it might as well get a 2nd job 😅 don't be lazy

    • @user-zb7tg5hi3t
      @user-zb7tg5hi3t Рік тому +2

      People love to drive their paychecks to look cool.

    • @iblongshia
      @iblongshia Рік тому

      @@user-zb7tg5hi3t You are so right.

    • @benschmitz554
      @benschmitz554 Рік тому +1

      I like the people saying that they won’t pay the price for a new truck. Do they think the price is going to go down? The price never goes down, it goes up every year. So I guess they are never going to buy a new truck for the rest of their life. If you want something, work hard for it and you will get it

  • @ruyguy8888
    @ruyguy8888 Рік тому +56

    I would honestly love to sell my 2006 Dodge cummins in for a new Tundra as i don't haul heavy anymore... But here in Canada interest rates ar 7-8% and the BASE tundra is about 59K plus tax and fees. Like heck i'll be making a $1000/M payment for 6 years. Im better off keeping my Diesel till the dino bones in the ground dry up.

    • @TheColorado4wheeler
      @TheColorado4wheeler Рік тому +3

      yes you would.

    • @andrewinaustintx
      @andrewinaustintx Рік тому +1

      Here in the lower 48 an 06 Ram with a Cummins doesn't use DEF. If it is in good shape, I'd keep the 06 for a few more years.

    • @YerBoyTroy
      @YerBoyTroy Рік тому

      A sr5 double cab TRD Offroad is 72k out the door with no accessories. This is just where the market is now. Even a mid trim Tacoma after tax will be costing around 60k 😂

    • @Vox-Populi
      @Vox-Populi Рік тому +1

      @@YerBoyTroythat's true. I was fortunate to buy that configuration in 2018 for $39k, plus 0% interest for 48 months.

    • @americandude3825
      @americandude3825 Рік тому +3

      New tundra still has quality issues. The windows still rattle.

  • @Can08-55
    @Can08-55 Рік тому +99

    Not having recovery hooks is a head scratcher to me. The rear bumpers need to go.

    • @drn13355
      @drn13355 Рік тому +3

      At Toyota I was getting work done to my truck and I asked them why the new Tundra has no recovery hooks. He told me it has to do with safety ratings or something. Who knows. I am sure the engineers have some reason.

    • @GeoBob-xf3hh
      @GeoBob-xf3hh Рік тому

      The bumper is fine

    • @VortexArcade
      @VortexArcade Рік тому

      To recover something from where? Starbucks? This $75k pig would get stuck in wet grass, nobody is using it for offroad.

    • @brettperkins4643
      @brettperkins4643 Рік тому +7

      It needs the Sequoia front end, an updated V8, then it would be incredible

    • @c.r.rg9529
      @c.r.rg9529 Рік тому +4

      ​@danielrn133 yeah,apparently toyota won't put them on because the truck won't pass the front collision test with them and marketing to consumers who pay attention to " safety ratings"

  • @smrtguy77777
    @smrtguy77777 Рік тому +38

    People who used to be in the market for a half ton are now looking at a midsize. A truck in the 70’s with 8% interest is not priced for the middle class.

    • @dyolinlinlin
      @dyolinlinlin Рік тому +5

      Or you could get the sr5 premium for $53,000 at a 4.99% interest rate like I did. 🤷🏼‍♂️ Not everything has to be top of the line with all of the options.

    • @chriskuntz1763
      @chriskuntz1763 11 місяців тому +1

      Or man up and get with the time

    • @lockandloadlikehell
      @lockandloadlikehell 10 місяців тому +4

      ​@chriskuntz1763 inflation and median salary vs 30 years ago is anything but "with the time", dpshtt
      Dunning-Kruger never fails.

    • @lockandloadlikehell
      @lockandloadlikehell 10 місяців тому

      ​@chriskuntz1763 always the runtiest, lowest test males speaking about manning up.

    • @Youtubeuser1aa
      @Youtubeuser1aa 8 місяців тому

      @@chriskuntz1763is that code for letting a man up you? That seems to be in style these days.

  • @secondcreekworkshop3908
    @secondcreekworkshop3908 Рік тому +24

    The Toyota Tundra who's grill was inspired by the majestic large mouth bass.

  • @allencrider
    @allencrider Рік тому +60

    It's become a huge luxury 4-door sedan.

    • @chrisrauschning7376
      @chrisrauschning7376 Рік тому +10

      Maybe, but Not really seeing the Luxury. For 72K.

    • @Sheepleton
      @Sheepleton Рік тому +6

      But everyone says the ride is poor and the seats are awful. It's just full of tech that we didn't ask for.

  • @Mills117
    @Mills117 Рік тому +15

    Surely not Roman micromanaging the entire video. Andre should start his own channel. He knows his stuff.

    • @cwqrpportable
      @cwqrpportable Рік тому +2

      Andre needs to set Roman in his place.....

    • @karenhughes401
      @karenhughes401 6 місяців тому +1

      @@cwqrpportable Roman is the BOSS

  • @donleamon8653
    @donleamon8653 Рік тому +19

    I went to my local Scottsdale dealership yesterday to order some parts for my ‘97 Land Cruiser and noted that the lot was packed with Tundras, 4Runners and salesmen just standing around. Inside there was a used 200 Heritage that they wanted $117k for 😂

    • @LukaUrushibara
      @LukaUrushibara Рік тому +2

      MONEY MONEY

    • @stevenlefebvre2991
      @stevenlefebvre2991 Рік тому +4

      That was a nice vehicle too bad they want a fortune for it. The new vehicles are garbage.

  • @LV4TD101
    @LV4TD101 Рік тому +43

    I've owned multiple Tundra's over the years, and I don't care that they got rid of the V8 but I still think it doesn't look good and the price is just absurd.
    If it was a true Hybrid and got 30 mpg, then I could over look its faults to some degree.

    • @LukaUrushibara
      @LukaUrushibara Рік тому

      mucho money :(

    • @rod1951
      @rod1951 Рік тому +9

      I don't really understand getting rid of the v8 for a hybrid not meant for efficiency 🤔.

    • @phlydude
      @phlydude Рік тому +4

      every truck is stupid expensive now - long gone is the bargain $30k truck

    • @TacoTruck17
      @TacoTruck17 Рік тому +1

      I don't care for the plastic bumpers!

    • @mikehughes8023
      @mikehughes8023 Рік тому +1

      Toyota spec’s mentioned clearly that the hybrid is for performance purposes only and not MPGs.

  • @michaelmancini5773
    @michaelmancini5773 Рік тому +11

    So I just bought a 23 Tundra Limited Crewmax, 6.5 bed, really nice truck, moonroof, JBL sound, I still can't believe I put out $ 68K for this rig, my 2015 Silverado LT ( nicely equipped), cost me $ 48K------- And yes, no tow hooks is ridiculous

  • @napalmjack
    @napalmjack Рік тому +41

    Do a video on the base model of some trucks. I wanna see your honest review of the bare minimum base model trucks.

    • @stevenwilkes9373
      @stevenwilkes9373 Рік тому +11

      I agree the trucks they review are completely outta reach for the folks that actually use these trucks

    • @c.r.rg9529
      @c.r.rg9529 Рік тому +1

      ​@@stevenwilkes9373I agree. I couldn't afford anything but the base model 23 tundra.(348hp/406lb torque) 4x4 crew max. I just couldn't afford the sr5 in my budget. I love the truck. Been driving it sine July. I don't off-road and don't tow too heavy. I have a truck for my needs and 4x4 when I need it in the winter.

  • @rondavis3232
    @rondavis3232 Рік тому +64

    YOU are living in that world. IM NOT paying that for a truck.

    • @MrPW339
      @MrPW339 Рік тому +14

      UA-camrs are enablers. Desensitizing the viewers into thinking these extortionate prices are “normal”.
      Then you have the sad individuals commenting, who lie about the products they have. Because they’re fanboys of the channel.

    • @Icutmetal
      @Icutmetal 11 місяців тому +1

      Thanks for letting us know.

    • @NomenClature-o8s
      @NomenClature-o8s 14 днів тому

      There are people for whom $75,000 isn’t a lot of money. Toyota also makes - $23,000 Corolla.

  • @NWPURSUIT
    @NWPURSUIT Рік тому +11

    Spoke to the techs at my local Toyota dealership the other day while I was there and all the techs I spoke to said stay far far away from these new tundras... even walked into the branch managers office and he said do not buy one... pretty bad if everyone at the Toyota delaership says they are junk...

  • @Toe_Knee_69
    @Toe_Knee_69 Рік тому +42

    My main complaints before trading in my 22 TRD Pro:
    1) turning radius is terrible
    2) no backseat headroom due to battery and panoramic sunroof

    • @DH-mf2lv
      @DH-mf2lv Рік тому +3

      Buy a GMC Sierra with the 6.2L ICE. REMEMBER to get the cylinder deactivation cancelled. Extended warranty would be a plus!

    • @ZmannR2
      @ZmannR2 Рік тому +2

      @@DH-mf2lv the 6.2 hasnt had cylinder deactivation for a while now

    • @DH-mf2lv
      @DH-mf2lv Рік тому

      Are you sure?

    • @ChuckHilyard
      @ChuckHilyard Рік тому

      sooo, excellent vehicle?

    • @rockygambina312
      @rockygambina312 Рік тому +1

      Don't buy a truck if turning radius is such a big deal.

  • @Ram14250
    @Ram14250 Рік тому +20

    I love the New Tundra... but I agree, I like a bigger green house / bigger taller windows. Would also like more color in that monotone screen. Seems everything is black, blue and white in that display. They do need to figure out hybrid batter location. I would want some underseat storage in the back, especially being a pick-up.

    • @bigtuck2009
      @bigtuck2009 Рік тому

      There's a box which is plug and play via USB that allows the monitor to also serve as a monitor for streaming NETFLIX, UA-cam, ect. . It's great for tailgating live sports. ~ Proud owner of '23 Toyota Tundra 1794 🙋🏾

  • @michaeltapper9004
    @michaeltapper9004 Рік тому +18

    Under seat storage is key as someone in construction who tows a lot.

    • @Zionpilot
      @Zionpilot Рік тому +1

      Don't get the hybrid version then. Super nice truck

    • @chriskuntz1763
      @chriskuntz1763 11 місяців тому

      You tow with a Cummins not a tundra … I have a 24 platinum it’s great for vacation I work my ram

  • @illinoistiger8694
    @illinoistiger8694 Рік тому +42

    The lack of recovery hooks and the lack of bumper steps are kind of odd. Seems like easy fixes for an update. The front and rear bumpers just look very plastic to me. They nailed everything but the exterior design IMO.

    • @jeffk464
      @jeffk464 Рік тому +1

      Yeah, its ugly and the Tacoma looks good,. Don't know why they say it looks like a baby Tundra. My GTI has a recovery hook and it passes crash tests with flying colors.

    • @joseperezpaz9986
      @joseperezpaz9986 Рік тому +2

      If it’s something you REALLY need, there’s an aftermarket option for recovery hooks. But for 95% of us we don’t need them.

    • @The_Opinion_of_Matt
      @The_Opinion_of_Matt Рік тому

      If anyone needs front recovery hooks for their Tundra check out the "Covert Front Bumper" from cbi Offroad.

    • @Wellh0wrya
      @Wellh0wrya Рік тому +4

      The camo is so cheesey

    • @joseperezpaz9986
      @joseperezpaz9986 Рік тому

      @@Wellh0wrya couldn’t agree more! That’s why I went with 1794 TrdOffroad.

  • @TheKeeganc
    @TheKeeganc Рік тому +17

    Low visibility, lacking storage, plastic bumpers, no front tow hooks on an “TRD Pro” and a worse turning radius? I’ll keep my 2019 1794 that I LOVE!! Great review and very thorough, as usual!

    • @dethtour
      @dethtour Рік тому +4

      Other than that, the new tundras are better in every way. Sure they sound ugly because V6 but you get more power and better gas.

    • @The_Opinion_of_Matt
      @The_Opinion_of_Matt Рік тому

      If anyone needs front recovery hooks for their Tundra check out the "Covert Front Bumper" from cbi Offroad.

    • @AlexisRiveraNieves
      @AlexisRiveraNieves Рік тому +1

      @@dethtourlet’s see how those turbos stand the test of time…Reliability is the main reason most people gets a Toyota.

    • @jpcheco
      @jpcheco Рік тому +1

      Better gas mileage? … are you serious?

    • @dethtour
      @dethtour Рік тому

      @@jpcheco I've been getting better mileage vs my other tundra. I get 22 on the freeway but also I don't speed and I have a bed cover

  • @Quicksilver314
    @Quicksilver314 Рік тому +18

    Coming from a previous gen Tundra owner, I don't like several things about these new ones. Like others have stated, not very off-road friendly with suspension that low with poor clearance, no tow hooks, especially for the TRD Pro. I like the factory lift option but it's really expensive. The tailpipe exit is not good and the back bumper looks like it has no bumper.

    • @davidhenson6337
      @davidhenson6337 4 місяці тому

      You think an aftermarket lift is cheap??........and no factory warranty.

  • @rogermeyer860
    @rogermeyer860 Рік тому +18

    I love my new 2024 Tundra 1794 non-Hybrid, coming from a V-8 F-150, but agree with Andre about the shorter front window, and plastic bumpers. There is no perfect truck.

    • @joethomlinson6878
      @joethomlinson6878 Рік тому

      I'm getting the exact same one can't wait, did you know you can watch net flip on the dashboard

  • @patrickmaxedon
    @patrickmaxedon Рік тому +2

    I bought an 09 Tundra new, and thats what i drive today, i love the new Tundras but not sold on the longevity of the twin turbo 6 just yet. I have 260k miles and still runs like new.

  • @lrcreamer
    @lrcreamer 10 місяців тому +3

    We want a v8 with a 10 speed and 355 rear end that is what we want in a truck

  • @hangandrew
    @hangandrew Рік тому +3

    I just got my 24 tundra trd pro this September in Houston!! Love it so far !!!

  • @petertrout7866
    @petertrout7866 Рік тому +6

    Did you just go through a red light at 15:33

    • @SK7u
      @SK7u 2 місяці тому +1

      He hella did 😂

  • @drive-channel1834
    @drive-channel1834 7 місяців тому +2

    Did the fix the engine problems?

  • @mikeestevez5047
    @mikeestevez5047 Рік тому +6

    Traded my 4runner trd offroad premium for a 2024 trd offroad tundra with the factory lift. My only gripe is the size of the tires at 265 70 18... Some of the interior plastic scratches easily, and the headliner if you press on it near the windshield it appears to be not very solid. I still wouldn't buy Ram or Ford or Chevy over Toyota.

  • @DavidWX877
    @DavidWX877 Рік тому +11

    Put the 5.7 v8 back if you want to make it better.

  • @dein45d
    @dein45d Рік тому +7

    Have you guys encountered any issues with wind noise around the drivers and passenger doors?

    • @mwc6849
      @mwc6849 Рік тому +1

      I own one and it is bad.

    • @RyDaHero10
      @RyDaHero10 Рік тому

      Mine isn't so bad. But then again it's a 2022. I play my music at a high volume so never noticeable or bothersome with no music.

  • @pech_wake_day1153
    @pech_wake_day1153 Рік тому +31

    This is a great mall crawling off roader. Prob best in class for curbs and speed bumps honestly.

    • @DaleWilly
      @DaleWilly Рік тому +2

      WRONG

    • @pech_wake_day1153
      @pech_wake_day1153 Рік тому

      @@allentoyokawa9068 ok butthurt Toyota fan girl

    • @pech_wake_day1153
      @pech_wake_day1153 Рік тому

      @@DaleWilly did you not watch the video?

    • @Bcp69
      @Bcp69 Рік тому +3

      I agree, poor ground clearance, break over, and approach/departure angles.

    • @Quicksilver314
      @Quicksilver314 Рік тому +1

      Prob get stuck on an ant hill.

  • @JayRay61
    @JayRay61 Рік тому +5

    My take from viewing one of these yesterday - the panoramic roof is really nice unless you are seated in the rear seat and are over 6'2".... Other than that, a really nice truck.

    • @brentworls8509
      @brentworls8509 Рік тому

      Yeah, the back seat, I couldn't fit in the middle, some weird hump in the middle and low head room.

  • @rsdaarud
    @rsdaarud Рік тому

    Highway travel in the '22 is a joy. Turning 1850 rpm at 80mph reminds me of that diesel torque without all the hassel! The oversquare 3.4 makes it possible. We'll see if it goes the distance of my first gen (264k and no issues.)

  • @airborne1283
    @airborne1283 Рік тому +16

    I just don’t know why they could not mate the V8 to the 10 speed transmission. That would have helped fuel mileage.

    • @coryernewein
      @coryernewein Рік тому +1

      That's been my question since day 1! I can't wait for someone to retrofit it online😛

    • @thegolfbeast4990
      @thegolfbeast4990 Рік тому +5

      “Emissions”. Turbos burn more of the fuel, so less gets ejected in the exhaust. It’s the EPA cramming down on car makers.

    • @vitkobylka6432
      @vitkobylka6432 Рік тому +4

      Yup, I bet the V8 with the 10 speed transmission and same rear end as the new one would get better fuel economy then the new one. Imagine the horsepower if they added the hybrid to it. I do have a 23 hybrid and love it, I wish the fuel economy was better. When towing I find it’s almost the same as the old one, driving around town I get about 30% better fuel economy. At least that’s something.

  • @jdr03272
    @jdr03272 Рік тому +23

    Toyota just totally missed the ball with this generation between this and the Sequoia. Absolutely absurd. 74,000. We went out and bought a 2021 1794 CrewMax with 40K miles. It is pristine. Growling V8. Ridiculous reliability that they are known for. Gorgeous and extremely comfortable leather. Some tech updates pending like an Alpine halo 11 and probably a custom dash kit so it all blends nice but consumers need to push back on this direction for the company. 74,000 for this truck is ridiculous. You can tell how underwhelmed you guys were every step of this way while trying to keep it professional not to piss off the Toyota suits. I hope the company can get back to their roots

    • @ernestscott1076
      @ernestscott1076 Рік тому +2

      I'm confused, because at the end of the day, Toyota still got your money with interest 🤷🏾‍♂️.

    • @jdr03272
      @jdr03272 Рік тому +5

      @@ernestscott1076 ? My goal was not to keep my money from Toyota. It was to get a reliable truck. I think they are great company or at least they were two years ago.

    • @spinfish1434
      @spinfish1434 Рік тому +4

      Agreed, Toyota has totally Failed with this abomination. It has a 4’ wider turning radius then the 2nd generation, Turbos will never go the distance of naturally aspirated engine, MPG’s suck and not much better then the 5.7. How long that battery going to last while it takes up valuable space? It’s much closer to $80k with Tax, delivery and it’s not an improvement over the 2nd generation…

    • @ernestscott1076
      @ernestscott1076 Рік тому +2

      @@jdr03272 I understand what you mean,but you have to give it some time to see if it is still reliable like the last gen. When the last gen came out, Internet wasn't as popular as now and I'm sure it was negative comments about the tundra,but it wasn't Internet exposure like now. Remember what they say Rome wasn't built in one day 😂. You take good care of that truck and don't be playing that music loud 😁

    • @gregmoessner3104
      @gregmoessner3104 Рік тому +2

      100,000 Canadian. For a half ton! Heavy duty truck is stratospheric pricing

  • @omarmandujano6772
    @omarmandujano6772 Рік тому +6

    They are attempting to price the full sizes out so you could see the Smaller trucks as a better alternative. Right now the largest growing class of truck is midsize Tacoma Colorado and Ranger and compact trucks like the maverick are selling out they don’t last a week at a dealers lot

    • @scott8238
      @scott8238 Рік тому +1

      and Frontier which is actually a midsize in comparison to the others.

  • @robertadams9884
    @robertadams9884 9 місяців тому +1

    I like the terracotta color.
    My 1983 Toyota 4x4 sport truck was terracotta! Brand new it only cost $14k

  • @robertcemper8185
    @robertcemper8185 6 місяців тому

    Love my new 24 sr5. Drives perfect with no road noise at all. Absolutely no complaints.

  • @rh9967
    @rh9967 9 місяців тому +3

    The base price of the trd pro with nothing added is $74,000!!! After taxes (and whatever else the dealership decides to add on) you’re looking at close to $80k. That is not an $80k truck. Covid price gouging at its worst.

  • @seg0328
    @seg0328 9 місяців тому +1

    Has Toyota fixed the road noise in the cab? The road noise in my 22 Tundra is terrible when going over 65 MPH.

  • @Bunkysworkshop
    @Bunkysworkshop Рік тому +14

    I guess I’m old school but I don’t want to give up my 5.7 V8.

    • @davidhorne2326
      @davidhorne2326 Рік тому

      Same here with the 4.7!

    • @Bunkysworkshop
      @Bunkysworkshop Рік тому +1

      @@davidhorne2326 I now have 128,000 miles and never a problem. Yes the mpg isn’t the best but it doesn’t spend it’s time in the garage.

    • @stevenlefebvre2991
      @stevenlefebvre2991 Рік тому +1

      There isn’t one thing about the new truck I like. I will keep my 5.7. I get 19 miles per gallon on the highway all day. And my bed is not plastic. And my interior is much bigger. And my turning radius is tighter.

    • @halftontimrvreviewsandtips3106
      @halftontimrvreviewsandtips3106 Рік тому

      Dude it’s more responsive, better mileage I’m getting 26.5, 16.5 towing 5k, it’s smoother and a nicer ride while towing. Your small penis mentality is sad

  • @kb9oak749
    @kb9oak749 Рік тому +8

    The "tie downs" look very small as if they expected nobody to actually use them, but had to put them in to avoid being destroyed by reviewers. Still no tow hooks?

  • @jwalton2297
    @jwalton2297 Рік тому +12

    Thought you guys were going to answer the question is the 2024 actually better than the 2022 and 2023?

    • @mikehughes8023
      @mikehughes8023 Рік тому +4

      They are practically the same on every regard. Other than the manufacturing date nothing has changed except colors🙁

    • @jwalton2297
      @jwalton2297 Рік тому +2

      @@mikehughes8023 I was referring to the problems that had on the last two model years. Like windows rattling, wind noise in the cabin...etc.

    • @desertdog6896
      @desertdog6896 Рік тому +1

      It’s not

    • @desertdog6896
      @desertdog6896 Рік тому

      @@mikehughes8023exactly

    • @desertdog6896
      @desertdog6896 Рік тому

      @@jwalton2297all still there

  • @michaelblock3998
    @michaelblock3998 Рік тому +8

    Looking forward to the comparison of all generations. I retire in 5 years I’ll be getting a 2nd gen to haul a wedge camper.

  • @heart4Pahoa
    @heart4Pahoa Рік тому +2

    What is with the nose cone air gap between the front grill and the AC condenser/radiator? Like shorten the front end if you are not going to use that 18” of space.

  • @05SiLLYrado
    @05SiLLYrado Рік тому +11

    So…still no from recovery hooks?

  • @tazeat
    @tazeat Рік тому +2

    No tow hooks and the painted sides on the front bumper is not going to hold up to any of the hunting roads I take my trucks on. I guess you'd pretty much be required to get an aftermarket bumper from the start.

    • @richardoaks3597
      @richardoaks3597 Рік тому +1

      Interesting comment. It holds up on the roads that I take to go hunting. Do you drive straight up to your game or do you get out and walk a little?

  • @jeffr6280
    @jeffr6280 Рік тому +3

    You won't miss the V-8 unless you own it for more than a few years and when it's out of warranty. That simply isn't an issue with the V-8's. They don't break, and the wear and tear items are easy enough for a handy owner to replace. The used market for these hybrids will probably be ok for the first seller, but nobody is going to pay the same kind of money for a 6-8 year old hybrid Tundra as people pay for V8's. The battery pack has a lifespan as do the turbos and nobody wants to be saddled with THOSE replacement costs. None of this will matter to most folks with the money to buy a new one today, but it's gonna suck for the used marked down the road.

    • @ALMX5DP
      @ALMX5DP Рік тому

      What V8's are you referring to? Everything on the market currently is electronically laden and pretty damn complex. Having a couple of turbos bolted on isnt really much different.

    • @jeffr6280
      @jeffr6280 Рік тому +1

      @@ALMX5DP The 5.7 and 4.6 of the previous gen were about as non-complex as you can get. In this case, I was specifically comparing them to the Hybrid twin turbo motors, whose added complexity is significantly greater than even the gas-only twin turbo motor.

    • @ALMX5DP
      @ALMX5DP Рік тому +1

      @@jeffr6280 well sure but those are outdated mills. Everyone is developing newer and more complex offerings even if they are NA V8s. Nothing wrong with preferring the 4.6 or 5.7, but if that’s the case it’s still pretty easy to go out and buy a truck with either of those engines to make your own. New vehicles have to keep up, just the reality.

  • @pyroretired
    @pyroretired Рік тому +2

    That sound augmentation is potentially bad news...one of the ways I keep track of my vehicle is "does it sound healthy". A fake healthy sound might hide a problem. until it's too late, unless a warning light comes on in time to save the day...

  • @fooloco
    @fooloco Рік тому +13

    My 1st gen Double Cab has front recovery hooks, a windshield that you can actually see out of and hood you can see over, better all-around outside visibility which gives it a great experience when doing things outdoors, 4 grab handles up front(2 for each front passenger), a 6.5' full-size bed, a steel rear bumper and rear seat storage not only under the seats but behind it as well. Toyota is not even trying anymore.

    • @The_Opinion_of_Matt
      @The_Opinion_of_Matt Рік тому

      If anyone needs front recovery hooks for their Tundra check out the "Covert Front Bumper" from cbi Offroad.

  • @neekopeeko9054
    @neekopeeko9054 Рік тому +5

    Why does everyone always feel the need to compare the Tundra to the Raptor? Toyota is clearly not trying to build a Raptor killer. Thankfully. The Raptor really is a silly daily driver. Way to over the top and expensive.

  • @crunchyblack2224
    @crunchyblack2224 Рік тому +10

    Why are there still no tow hooks!? Crazy!

    • @is6566
      @is6566 Рік тому +2

      Because at Toyota they know that the tow hooks are available aftermarket and in any case people really serious about off-road will rip off the front and rear bumpers for aftermarket steel bumpers and the tow hooks are built into the new bumpers. But yes it should be on any truck from factory.

    • @stevenlefebvre2991
      @stevenlefebvre2991 Рік тому +3

      Because there’s nothing in the front strong enough to hold the hooks.

    • @is6566
      @is6566 Рік тому +2

      @steven… Actually there is. Hidden low but the aftermarket guys have one that bolts to the frame. Kind of awkward to get to it but it’s possible. Ridiculous that it doesn’t come from factory with tow hooks. Manufacturers are famous about this kind of B$ and providing B$ explanations for it. Do we remember Toyota telling us for a decade or longer that we don’t need rear locker on their Tundras and Sequoias? Now finally it’s needed. 😃 How about Jeep refusing for decades to put a V8 into the Jeep because it’s supposedly didn’t fit. Surprise, at the exact moment that Ford revealed the very capable Jeep fighter Bronco, suddenly the Stellantis engineers figured out how to put V8 into a Jeep (which was done by aftermarket engine swap companies hundreds of times a year for ten years or longer). 😆 Or Ford telling us that the mustang doesn’t need Independent Rear Suspension because the solid axle is better. And then in 2016 suddenly it wasn’t any more. 😅 It’s pathetic. Now we are supposed to believe that it’s a safety requirement to not have tow hooks why every other manufacturer have it.

    • @Jimanderson124
      @Jimanderson124 Рік тому

      i wouldn't tow anything on this shit bed of a truck. V6 twin turbo i wouldn't really rely on

  • @27dmarshall
    @27dmarshall Рік тому +10

    Did they add front tow hooks?!?? Oh..... Nope.
    1345 lbs payload is low.

    • @vitkobylka6432
      @vitkobylka6432 Рік тому +1

      I’ve seen a UA-camr show a Dodge Ram with a 1000 lb payload, now that’s low.

  • @rossmiller9148
    @rossmiller9148 Рік тому +4

    With the price tag for those things they probably should've done some improvements!! Was going to look into buying a new Tacoma, but after seeing the new pricing for the TRD Off Road.... They can keep it!

    • @sacramentofoodforest
      @sacramentofoodforest Рік тому

      Facts

    • @RP-xk8ji
      @RP-xk8ji Рік тому

      Yea fuckem.... they want 60k plus and high interest for anything nowadays. The idiots that keep buying the shit are the reason why prices won't come down.

  • @richfarfugnuven6308
    @richfarfugnuven6308 Рік тому +9

    How are those front recovery hooks? Oh, wait...

  • @lucasblanchard47
    @lucasblanchard47 Рік тому +3

    For that ridiculous price, it NEEDS to come with full steel bumpers and recovery hooks. That’s pretty absurd.

  • @Robert-Moran
    @Robert-Moran Рік тому +2

    I prefer the Nissan Titan , It has the V8 that we need and is the most affordable among trucks and that is what we need to do the job and the Titan has a good reputation. I couldn't buy a tundra, not even one of the big three, they are very expensive. I bought a Nissan Titan platinum reserve. 2023 with sales and discounts for the price of a basic truck from other brands and the Titan is an option for the middle class who cannot buy a truck, just find the time and the dealer who wants to work with you thanks to John Lee Nissan Panama City, FL because it is a transparent dealer, no market adjustment, no BS on buying a warranty because this dealer has a lifetime warranty on your car. Thanks for the video

  • @dakotaracebrown
    @dakotaracebrown Рік тому +5

    I wish they would make a front bench seat. Then I’d buy one. Going to go with the new ram 1500 when it comes out

  • @frankhanes8005
    @frankhanes8005 Рік тому +3

    You guys do a great job at showing and telling us everything about these new trucks. The pice tags are just crazy anymore they want more then some people have paid for there houses. I’m ready to go get a new truck but can’t rap my head around paying 80k or more for one.

    • @scrapmanindustries
      @scrapmanindustries Рік тому

      What do you do with it? There’s trucks out there under 80k if you don’t need all the fancy crap

  • @Tacosauce81
    @Tacosauce81 Рік тому +3

    Why did Toyota, not finish the "O" in TRD PRO? Anyone else, notice that on the tailgate? It looks really funky. Overall very nice truck. I just wish they went with 35s and more ground clearance, better approach and departure angles.

    • @mikehughes8023
      @mikehughes8023 Рік тому

      It is finished. It matches the other lettering as far as being open ended caligriphy.

  • @tuckerhiggins4336
    @tuckerhiggins4336 Рік тому +1

    There's an alternate timeline where US emission laws were less strict. This world would have twin turbo hybrid v8 powertrains rn

  • @cmcconn100
    @cmcconn100 Рік тому +8

    I drove the exact trick at my local dealer recently. I agree the seats aren't great. I also noticed significant turbo lag which is weird as most modern turbo vehicles have mostly mitigated that.

    • @phobicd9365
      @phobicd9365 Рік тому +6

      I have a 23 TRD Pro, I have no turbo lag at all as the hybrid engine covers the turbo lag areas.

    • @reptoid5634
      @reptoid5634 Рік тому +3

      May be the other guy is a ford guy

    • @T_81535
      @T_81535 Рік тому +3

      The turbos in the new gen were designed spool up slower like a diesel truck rather than on a Ford eco boost which spools faster like a race engine almost.

    • @signovinces04
      @signovinces04 Рік тому

      That button for the tail gate is garbage compared to the F 150 250 350 tail gate.

    • @signovinces04
      @signovinces04 Рік тому

      The 2022 is a POS and so is the 2024🤣🤣🤣

  • @MooseDitty17
    @MooseDitty17 Рік тому +7

    Blame the departure angle for backing into a stump... 😅
    Pro Towing capacity is 11,175 btw

    • @Icutmetal
      @Icutmetal 11 місяців тому +1

      And how will it ever realistically reach that capacity with it's dismal payload capacity?

    • @MooseDitty17
      @MooseDitty17 11 місяців тому

      @@Icutmetal Payload on my Pro is 1300+. 10% tongue weight plus a driver.

    • @Icutmetal
      @Icutmetal 11 місяців тому

      @@MooseDitty17 Right…and you’ve got nothing left, plus 10% is on the low end.

    • @MooseDitty17
      @MooseDitty17 11 місяців тому

      @@Icutmetal so buy a different truck...

    • @Icutmetal
      @Icutmetal 11 місяців тому

      @@MooseDitty17 You’re not answering my question.

  • @bp5435
    @bp5435 7 місяців тому +1

    Toyota Engineers/Top Executives- “We have five recorded Tundras with 5.7L installed and over a million miles recorded on original engine. Let’s steer away from what works and fold to the green agenda”
    Makes sense.

  • @chrismarbrey9678
    @chrismarbrey9678 Рік тому +3

    All the people questioning the demise of the V8 trust me the government has their hands all in it.

  • @tlast52
    @tlast52 Рік тому +1

    Did you have wind noise at 30 mph and up my sounds like heavy wind blowing on side windows

  • @fordrac1ng81
    @fordrac1ng81 Рік тому +1

    I'm not paying $80k for a Tundra. Anyone who would is a fool.

  • @joeblack1052
    @joeblack1052 Рік тому +12

    They could have stuck the old body on the new frame.
    New transmission and the 4.7 V8 with hybrid assist and some updated interior.
    After all ford hasn’t drastically changed the basic look of the F150 for a long time.
    This doesn’t look like a Toyota , it looks like a GMC with a bad front end.
    Keeping brand recognition is important.
    Marketing dropped the ball as badly as the designers.

    • @TheJoncic
      @TheJoncic Рік тому

      Gov emissions regs won't allow for a V8. Ford and GM still have one for now because they have more frequent redesign cycles.

    • @joeblack1052
      @joeblack1052 Рік тому +1

      @@TheJoncic 2024 redesigned F150 still offers the 5.0L V8?
      The rules only apply to Toyota?
      Toyota according to one of the tundra designers toyed with the idea of going diesel.
      5.7 is too much capacity and Toyota could have figured that ages ago and design a lower capacity higher efficiency V8 or even a straight 6.

    • @ALMX5DP
      @ALMX5DP Рік тому +2

      @@joeblack1052 well to be fair, F-150 sells an order of magnitude more trucks than the Tundra so all the Ecoboosts likely offset the 5.0 in terms of CAFE and such.

    • @joeblack1052
      @joeblack1052 Рік тому

      @@ALMX5DP the Tacoma probably offsets the tundra
      No there are definitely different standards for the domestics
      They are allowed diesels.
      People say the Toyota diesels can’t pass emission standards but they are sold in Europe and Australia that have stricter standards than most of the US.

    • @ALMX5DP
      @ALMX5DP Рік тому

      @@joeblack1052 other vehicles do help offset, but there is still the issue that Tundra simply doesnt sell near as well so to develop another powertrain is a much bigger relative investment and gamble in terms of profitability. And at least for pickups, I believe the EU classifies them differently being more inline with our HD trucks or commercial applications.

  • @coryernewein
    @coryernewein Рік тому +3

    Offroad it vs Andre's 2008 Tundra, I'm curious about approach/departure/breakover🤙

  • @peeceejay
    @peeceejay Рік тому

    I'm a 2020 Ram 1500 owner and it's going back in AGAIN for stupid problems to be fixed. I'm very temped to trade it in for one of these. Maybe not the TRD Pro - I'll never go more off road than a field or a snowy parking lot - but I do tow a travel trailer, and load the bed up with lumber - and the 6.5' bed is SUPER attractive

  • @reaper0662
    @reaper0662 Рік тому +1

    Wish they would’ve done a v8 with a hybrid

  • @hugos.5059
    @hugos.5059 Рік тому +2

    Im sure you’ve heard by now but the 10 freeway is closed near the convention center here in LA… traffic is a mess so give yourselves time..🤦🏻‍♂️

    • @Jay-ns5ub
      @Jay-ns5ub Рік тому +1

      Everything is a mess in LA.

    • @hugos.5059
      @hugos.5059 Рік тому

      @@Jay-ns5ub that’s also true… lol

  • @joedfazio
    @joedfazio Рік тому +5

    1345 Lbs payload? 10,500 lbs tow rating? With 10% tongue weight that leaves approx 295 lbs for passengers and all other cargo. Does not seem very practical to me, am I missing something here?

    • @is6566
      @is6566 Рік тому +2

      @joe… ALL mid size and half tons are like that now. You have to go up to heavy duty trucks to get a decent payload. Even there some 2500 have pathetic payloads. 3500 and up are ok.

    • @The_Opinion_of_Matt
      @The_Opinion_of_Matt Рік тому

      @@is6566 INEOS Grenadier has decent payload compared to it's towing capacity. I don't remember the specific number though.

  • @JohnSmith-gp2xq
    @JohnSmith-gp2xq 9 місяців тому +2

    torque and hp are bs hybrid system is like temp boost then charge

  • @hi.bradder7929
    @hi.bradder7929 Рік тому +2

    If the new TNGA platform enables more interoperability of parts...would a V6 TT iForce Max, Tundra suspension all on a Tacoma be possible?

  • @RichardJohnson-sg3vo
    @RichardJohnson-sg3vo Рік тому

    Nothing more important than looking at the rear bumper while speeding along the interstate 😊never going to get a v6 go trade it in for a good used 2022

  • @roys.3474
    @roys.3474 Рік тому +1

    I test drove a trd pro 2024 and it drove ok a little weak on 0-60 and it's not comfortable, and i test drove 15 trucks from Toyota, ford, gmc, 1500 and 2500 trucks , ende up buying a AT4 fully loaded with suspension package v8 6.2 carbonpro , it was the best overall truck in my opinion has comfortable seats high quality interior, rides like a Cadillac

  • @jakethesk8roberts763
    @jakethesk8roberts763 Рік тому

    When you’re trying to talk about the roof in the height of the windshield and stuff, it compares more to like a chop top like when they used to chop the top on old hot rods and stuff

  • @brentworls8509
    @brentworls8509 Рік тому +2

    My best friend had his 2023 engine replaced, it was one of several in line getting replacement engines at the dealer. He immediately traded it for a 2024. First year engines are expensive junk.

    • @biggsly5000
      @biggsly5000 Рік тому +1

      I don’t think the tundra had any new engines in 2013. Just the 5.7 and 4.6

    • @brentworls8509
      @brentworls8509 Рік тому

      @@biggsly5000 edited... oops. Thumbs

  • @cooterhedrick2906
    @cooterhedrick2906 Рік тому +2

    Those track-mounted cleats aren’t strong enough for a tie down point on a motorcycle. When you go to cranking down on them, they really flex.

  • @rightwingsafetysquad9872
    @rightwingsafetysquad9872 Рік тому +17

    That payload is abysmal. Roman, Andre, Tommy, and Nathan probably use all of it without a single thing in the bed. You can probably put more weight in a Rav4.

    • @jza80king
      @jza80king Рік тому +1

      You are absolutely right. The higher the trim model (TRD pro, ZR2, Tremor) the lower the payload. Heated seats, cooled seats, other luxury features eat up capability.

    • @jza80king
      @jza80king Рік тому +1

      @@allentoyokawa9068 I am a Toyota fan boy, I'll admit that. But the payload on this and other "top tier trucks" is far from great. I would say it's good when you consider the overall package and all the luxury features you get. It's not great though.

    • @halftontimrvreviewsandtips3106
      @halftontimrvreviewsandtips3106 Рік тому +2

      Let’s be honest people, if you’re buying a fully loaded truck it’s going to have us pay load because we know somebody like that doesn’t actually use a truck to be a truck. They use it as a minivan. They’re a problem

    • @rightwingsafetysquad9872
      @rightwingsafetysquad9872 Рік тому +3

      @@halftontimrvreviewsandtips3106 Rich people need to tow their boats too.

    • @The_Opinion_of_Matt
      @The_Opinion_of_Matt Рік тому +1

      My 2009 2-door VW GTI has a higher payload than some Ford Raptors.

  • @TheBlecht
    @TheBlecht Рік тому

    Any issues drilling into a composite bed? I use the pitbull trailer restraint for my motorcycle instead of using straps so bolting the plate down would be a necessity.

  • @peterhoma6385
    @peterhoma6385 Рік тому +3

    Toyota guy here and I think Toyota fell way short on this tundra I’m trying to like but honestly just can’t , going to drive my 2021 TRD off road Tacoma 4x4 until it can’t drive anymore these newer truck I’m not a fan of at all , but that’s just me …

    • @Javelinjoe73
      @Javelinjoe73 8 місяців тому

      Driving that till it won’t drive anymore is going to take you a long long time

  • @mikemiller1502
    @mikemiller1502 Рік тому +1

    Another great video put put out by TFL. Love your objectivity.

  • @JIPlatium
    @JIPlatium Рік тому +5

    Love my Tundra, super awesome. I get 20-21mpgs on Freeway travel in my hybrid. I love how FLT bangs on the plastic coating, but they are not the only brand of truck that does this (Ford, GMC/Chevy, RAM). As for the snow brush.. behind the seat works. I have plenty of items stored behind the seat on my truck. The seats when new were a bit firm, after 6 months, the seats were perfect and comfy. I love the way Toyota did the infotainment system, it's perfect. I have a device that allows movies to be played on the screen, which is perfect for my kids. People want the infotainment system to do more, but here is the problem. For heavy integration with controls built-in the infotainment system, when that system fails, you lose function (pointing to the cheesy Colorado and Canyon truck). I don't have visibility issues, plus the camera kicks on if you get close to something on the front.

    • @gregmoessner3104
      @gregmoessner3104 Рік тому +1

      Rear seat moves forward? Maybe they used to but these designers need a slap

    • @JIPlatium
      @JIPlatium Рік тому +1

      @@gregmoessner3104 Didn't say it moved forward, but there is storage behind the right passenger seat.

    • @scott8238
      @scott8238 Рік тому

      I just bought a 23 Nissan titan pro4x and my V8 gets the same MPGs as your V6 hybrid plus I have storage under all of the rear seats because there is no battery living there.

    • @JIPlatium
      @JIPlatium Рік тому +2

      @@scott8238 Not sure about getting the "same" mpg with your truck. You are rated 15 cities and 20 highways. Also, the Tundra is larger and heavier than your truck. Has more torque and HP, tows more, and has better amenities. Willing to give up a little space for previously mentioned advantage. A lot of my inter-city driving gives me 24 mpg.

    • @scott8238
      @scott8238 Рік тому

      @@JIPlatium Ill take a naturally aspirated V8 any day of a turbo hybrid for long term reliability even if that means I have less hp and torque. They are the same size trucks unless its the XD which is a much bigger/heavier truck than the tundra. TItan build quality/materials is better than the tundra imo since i test drove both. Real world mpg is different than what is listed. As far as towing the Nissan is very conservative with their towing numbers I have already been over on payload and didn't even notice. Pricing is where the Titan really shines but I wont get into that.

  • @baylorbear0358
    @baylorbear0358 Рік тому +2

    Everything wrong with this world can be summed up into two words, “Hybrid Truck”

  • @ldmtag
    @ldmtag Рік тому +3

    This Tundra will look awesome in silver. But I love the Terra

    • @christophercarter129
      @christophercarter129 Рік тому +1

      I still think this generation tundra looks the best in Black because It low key hides that massive grill.

  • @adamwojdyla1102
    @adamwojdyla1102 Рік тому +1

    Dear Toyota - I would very much like a manual transmission in a Tundra. I know it isn't possible with the hybrid and most people aren't interested in three pedals but I would very much like the option. If you're REALLY listening - please make it available on a Platinum and down trim level :)

  • @Bingoz277
    @Bingoz277 Рік тому

    So what parts need to be removed when the turbos go out and need replacements???? Do you have to remove the body from the frame????

  • @augustoferrarese
    @augustoferrarese Рік тому +5

    The windshield is definitely an issue for me and the lack of visibility in general. When I test drove the car I also didn’t like the positioning of the infotainment that should be integrated in the center console. Tesla can get away with that screen sticking out because of the different pitch is the windshield and the better visibility.

  • @tokarski01
    @tokarski01 Рік тому +1

    Finally a black headliner in the PRO

  • @a.h.9982
    @a.h.9982 10 місяців тому +1

    They kept saying this or that was “growing on me.” Should have just said they didn’t like it 😂.

  • @moonman_8935
    @moonman_8935 Рік тому +7

    As a Lexus collector & current Toyota owner. If I were in the market for a truck. I would take a 2023 Nissan Titan Pro-4X over the Tundra. The Titan has a Rear locker & N/A V8.

    • @americandude3825
      @americandude3825 Рік тому

      I finally convinced my buddy to buy a 5.7L tundra a month ago.
      He went from the 2014 nissan pro-4x, Ford, ram, and a gladiator.
      He said regrets waiting so long. The tundra is by far is favorite.
      But…he didn’t own the current gen Titan to compare it though.
      I too love the current Titan XD pro-4x, but man the depreciate super fast. Not really matter bc I would keep it for years like my current 2008 5.7L with 217600 miles.
      The Titan dies next year sadly.

    • @troyt5309
      @troyt5309 Рік тому +1

      I recently purchased a new Lexus IS500 which has a Yamaha designed 5.0L V8 and 472hp. That paired to the hybrid system would be amazing in a Tundra, they may have missed a opportunity with that as it would've been a huge in the American market where we love our V8's.

  • @cidlopez
    @cidlopez Рік тому +2

    I’ve found driving Toyotas with that v8 to be sluggish and less responsive than their vehicles with the 6.
    What we should be wishing Toyota would do is offer their 15z inline 6 diesel in their tundra.

  • @JosephBaruzzo
    @JosephBaruzzo 8 місяців тому +1

    I’m confused with the title of your video. You didn’t answer any questions and didn’t discuss any of the changes Toyota made to the ‘24 model.

  • @scott8238
    @scott8238 Рік тому +3

    No front recovery hooks, no rear seat storage and the same mpg's as a V8....smh

    • @The_Opinion_of_Matt
      @The_Opinion_of_Matt Рік тому

      If anyone needs front recovery hooks for their Tundra check out the "Covert Front Bumper" from cbi Offroad.

  • @Jojo-ni2cg
    @Jojo-ni2cg Рік тому +4

    Toyotas Quality has plummed on all of there new models and now with only turbo engines being made buyer beware-The car care nut just made a great video on these new toyota turbo engines that anyone purchaseing these vehicles should watch.

  • @ibeemeeintp3033
    @ibeemeeintp3033 Рік тому +2

    People who complain about Toyota turbo engines have NO CLUE about their 1jz, 2jz, 3sgte, d4d engines etc etc lol

    • @SwingArmCity
      @SwingArmCity 5 місяців тому

      That was a while different ball game. Completely.