@@EthanClouser Thank *you* very much for the Super Thanks, Ethan! I greatly appreciate the support and your encouraging comment :) I shall do my best to keep it up!
Thank you for the lessons. Well structured, good instruction and thoughtful method. Appreciate when you note there is a difference in modern Greek when applicable.
An example of a derivative of τειχος is “teichoscopy”. Wikipedia: “Teichoscopy or teichoscopia (Ancient Greek: τειχοσκοπία), meaning ‘viewing from the walls’, is a recurring narrative strategy in ancient Greek literature.”
@@fruitytarian I’m happy to hear that the videos are helpful! :) I see! I myself learned Greek largely through independent study (I say “largely” as I did also attend a two-week summer school for Greek three times). I wish you the best of luck and encourage you to keep learning! :)
@@ludcol I see! It is really great there and I am sure that it will go very well for you. I went there for the first time as a total beginner in 2019 and then I continued learning Greek through daily independent study. I went back to the summer school in 2021 and 2022 at the intermediate and advanced levels, respectively. I am pleased to say that I learned Greek well enough to undertake an MPhil in Classics at Cambridge and achieve a Distinction, and I shall actually be starting my PhD at Cambridge later this year :) At the end of the summer school, they will encourage you to consolidate your learning independently, and I would encourage you to do that, and even to build on what you have learned in addition to consolidating your learning. If you do that, then you will certainly succeed. All the best - let me know how it goes at Bryanston!
Interesting how these are pronounced in the exact same way in my native language finnish, with the exeption of ou. Smooth sailing so far, although i’m afrad that will change soon haha. Teixos reminded me of the spanish word for roof - techo, although i don’t know of theres any etymological connection.
In ‘classical attic’ ο was a short CLOSE mid back [o] and ω was a long OPEN mid back [ɔː] so it WAS a dipthong in that both sounds were pronounced. en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/IPA_vowel_chart_with_audio
No 'ui' does not sound just like the French word oui. That is pronounced oui (with a greek ou). It does sound like 'ui' in the French word 'pluit' (rain) however. But then we're learning Greek not French :-D. And I've also always said 'dip thong' and recently wondered if I'd been saying it 'wrong' all this time. So I appreciated your justification. Note that some of the pronunciation you are teaching is NOT supported by research, and that yours is merely one convention among several. So for full disclosure rather than 'this is how you pronounce ancient Greek' you could say 'this is how I was taught' or 'this is the "blah" pronunciation convention'. For a completely obsessive (and somewhat opinionated) run down on the finer points of much of the research, see Luke Ranieri's video : ua-cam.com/video/dQBpwKWnZAo/v-deo.htmlsi=VMqAOj5FBS1rkXNr All that said - though I'll be using what Luke has gathered from his 'research of the research' on attic, I am enjoying your videos and look forward to the part where we actually dig in to the Greek - cheers!
Sorry to be your 666'th subscriber. :D I hope you will gain more subs soon. Would you by any chance be interested in providing a personal lecture over the internet?
Enjoyed the second video too on diphthongs...Good practice for me...thank you very much, David.
I'm glad to hear that :) You're welcome; keep up the good work!
This is amazing I love your videos I have been studying for about a month now at about an hour a day and I can do very basic reading thanks to you
This guy is a master of Philosophy in Cambridge university😲
He is a smart guy,
Thanks for creating this! Keep it up :)
@@EthanClouser Thank *you* very much for the Super Thanks, Ethan! I greatly appreciate the support and your encouraging comment :) I shall do my best to keep it up!
I have only ever heard them called dip-thongs, never dif-thongs so I found the tangent at the beginning really interesting
Glad to hear it! :)
Thank you for the lessons. Well structured, good instruction and thoughtful method. Appreciate when you note there is a difference in modern Greek when applicable.
An example of a derivative of τειχος is “teichoscopy”. Wikipedia: “Teichoscopy or teichoscopia (Ancient Greek: τειχοσκοπία), meaning ‘viewing from the walls’, is a recurring narrative strategy in ancient Greek literature.”
Nice! Thanks for sharing this :)
Related to activities at Troy by any chance? :)
Thank you for the lessons
This is so helpful! Glad I found you 🙏🏼 currently trying to learn ancient Greek on my own 😅
@@fruitytarian I’m happy to hear that the videos are helpful! :) I see! I myself learned Greek largely through independent study (I say “largely” as I did also attend a two-week summer school for Greek three times). I wish you the best of luck and encourage you to keep learning! :)
@@LearnAncientGreekwas that at Bryanston
@@ludcol It was indeed :)
I have it in 2 weeks, hopefully it goes as well as it did for you
@@ludcol I see! It is really great there and I am sure that it will go very well for you. I went there for the first time as a total beginner in 2019 and then I continued learning Greek through daily independent study. I went back to the summer school in 2021 and 2022 at the intermediate and advanced levels, respectively.
I am pleased to say that I learned Greek well enough to undertake an MPhil in Classics at Cambridge and achieve a Distinction, and I shall actually be starting my PhD at Cambridge later this year :)
At the end of the summer school, they will encourage you to consolidate your learning independently, and I would encourage you to do that, and even to build on what you have learned in addition to consolidating your learning. If you do that, then you will certainly succeed.
All the best - let me know how it goes at Bryanston!
Interesting how these are pronounced in the exact same way in my native language finnish, with the exeption of ou. Smooth sailing so far, although i’m afrad that will change soon haha. Teixos reminded me of the spanish word for roof - techo, although i don’t know of theres any etymological connection.
Ploion - could it be "deploy" comes from it? Like "remove from the ship"?
Hey man great job :)
Keep going with the videos
What would be great are very basic sentences (comprehensible input stuff in your later videos)
Thank you very much! I have a new lesson coming soon which does end with some very simple sentences, so look out for that! :)
Teichoscopy - a dramatic technique
Thank you!
Sir , can you please make on ELISION??
Since omicron and omega are considered as short and long versions of the same sound, is the word βοώτης Boötes a dipthong?
In ‘classical attic’ ο was a short CLOSE mid back [o] and ω was a long OPEN mid back [ɔː] so it WAS a dipthong in that both sounds were pronounced. en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/IPA_vowel_chart_with_audio
@@raederle9070 Thanks so much!
Aren’t οι, ει, υι pronounced i and αυ av, and ευ ev?
In modern - yes
No 'ui' does not sound just like the French word oui. That is pronounced oui (with a greek ou). It does sound like 'ui' in the French word 'pluit' (rain) however. But then we're learning Greek not French :-D. And I've also always said 'dip thong' and recently wondered if I'd been saying it 'wrong' all this time. So I appreciated your justification.
Note that some of the pronunciation you are teaching is NOT supported by research, and that yours is merely one convention among several. So for full disclosure rather than 'this is how you pronounce ancient Greek' you could say 'this is how I was taught' or 'this is the "blah" pronunciation convention'. For a completely obsessive (and somewhat opinionated) run down on the finer points of much of the research, see Luke Ranieri's video : ua-cam.com/video/dQBpwKWnZAo/v-deo.htmlsi=VMqAOj5FBS1rkXNr
All that said - though I'll be using what Luke has gathered from his 'research of the research' on attic, I am enjoying your videos and look forward to the part where we actually dig in to the Greek - cheers!
Sorry to be your 666'th subscriber. :D I hope you will gain more subs soon. Would you by any chance be interested in providing a personal lecture over the internet?
it is still hard to pronounce sentences
It was all Greek to me. 😊 Not anymore. 😊
Thank you 👍🏻