As a psychiatrist, I can honestly say I have never heard better explanations of Borderline and Histrionic Personality Disorders before. That court owes her tuition.
For reals, I felt like I was getting a university lecture with this presentation :P Fascinating stuff so expertly presented, especially for the laypeople like myself out there.
She is showing how the Magicians Performa the trick removing the magical piercer and art of misdirection. The ply book of hoe th the mental illness works now the jury can think about the prior testimony the rest of the trial and now the dots connect and act like to missing context is Maki g the answer clear. If she testifies now it's gonna be now exposed and clear wht the manipulation and overall abusive behavior is what it looks like and her start to fight or flight as she won't be able to control the perception of her barrative thar justifies her or shows she had done nothing wrong. Prediction if she fumbles and runs into trouble it won't be long before the look what you made me do talk starts her lawyers did it immediately om their questioning asking what damage the abus causes and whT where the trauma and behavioral effect are. As if tonsay the abus causes her to abuse it isn't her fault. Felt like the docs info started right there. It felt like an odd narrative e they were crafting. Toonsad
It's really about getting the room on agreement you want to look at different people and get their approval with their head. When she looks away oddly enough the previous person will focus on you to gain attention back. It's not just educational for sure ^^ she knows what she's doing
Well damn. It's like she read Amber like a book. This psychologist is a very wise woman, and her involvement in this case definitely helped to secure Johnny's case against Amber
Finally, a professional, accredited therapist and clinical psychologist can see her for what she truly is. Amber Hear whether she has these 2 disorders had forever made a disservice to the community who works with victims of DV and sexual abuse and on a positive note it finally opens a wide door to start talking about Male victims and survivors of DV. Violence and mental illness have no gender, no social status, or race. EDITED on June 14, so as you can watch AH in her interview with Savanah D, you can see that Dr. Curry was right on the money with her diagnosis.
She needs to be either in prison or a lockdown mental hospital. She's an evil, sick woman that will never work in the entertainment business again. She's TOXIC!
This doctor is intelligent, articulate and literally lays everything out before you. She's not just making accusations, she's making things clear and concise. She's so calm. Excellent testimony.
I’m a psychologist, and the way this colleague is professionally ripping the test and explaining the disorders deserves nothing more than admiration, acknowledging and congratulations. I am amused by her confidence, her steady pose and the way she points out the details with very good examples and explanations. The best? There is no way Heard’s lawyers can find holes in this. The test is scientifically standardized and it has a lot of time in the psychology world. They are going to need a lot of help to minimize the damage. My deepest sympathies for the professional. What a woman!
As she explained there are numerous other tests as well, so she compiled data from many sources to come to her conclusions. She explained that while some are multiple choice or easy to 'fake';symptoms, that particular test has open ended statements so it's apparent when there is repeated exaggeration and malingering (faking symptoms). Hahaha Heard!!;She really thinks she is the smartest one in the room, but nope GTF outta here with that ish Bish! 😂
Exactly what is the test . She sounds l me and actress playing her lines certainly does not sound like a psychologist in any sense . Way to much bias and definitive opinion .
@@milliesa969 All you have to do is look at heard and her lawyers to see what a bad person looks like. Literally everything they do is blatantly bad, incompetent, ridiculous, manipulative... it's insane
This is a sham trial. No judge in their right mind would allow such testimony in court. It's a completely subjective analysis by practitioner of pseudoscience.
There's a staggering battery of tests required to qualify even to *guard* a container which MAY have nukes, yet POTUS, who has the codes, takes none of them. The founding fathers never imagined that anyone so unfit would get so close to Executive Office when they exempted the President from such scrutiny.
Dr Demartie on the Jodie Arias case was very much like Dr Curry. Completely different case. I am just concentrating on Dr Demartie's professional knowledge and poise.
It's incredibly surreal to see it all unfold and her analysis of Amber. I have taken the MMPi2 3 times to be cleared to work/carry firearms. There's no way to "cheat" or sway these evaluations. If your goal is to "prove" something of your merit/personality or even fake something negatively it will flag and show. It isn't about "accuracy" as so much "discrepancies". This whole case has taken a turn as in a complete back fire on Amber.
This is a HUGE testimony for this case. There is no way the jury can overlook this sort of expert insight into Amber's mental health. Seems this case is leaning more in our favor everyday. Good luck Johnny!
Sadly "expert" doesn't mean anything. He hired her, and if Heard did the same thing, another "expert" would swear she's the most stable person we've ever seen :D It's just one testimony, and certainly not an independent one.
Having forty years as a mental health professional, I can say this psychologist is very smart and well prepared. One of the best I’ve seen. Not only correct descriptions but excellent ability to describe terms and processes in understandable terms. The kind of examination of materials, interviews, testing etc. represents hours of concentrated work and very careful consideration. She’s done a thorough great job.
I just want to make sure I say that I really hope this doesn’t contribute any more to the stigma against BPD people in your industry, and I hope you guys are doing a lot of real work to stomp it out💞
Does the fact that she's not board-certified in any way undermine her credibility as an expert? Regardless, I agree that she is an unusually good communicator.
@@randyevermore9323 Board-certification applies more to psychiatrists than psychologists, which means she needs to be an M.D. or any other doctoral degree to be board certified. She is a clinical psychologist and that means, by definition that she is not and can not be board-certified without a doctoral degree. I have not checked her educational background but even if she does have a doctoral degree she needs to apply for board-certification and pass the exams. Basically it is just an exam. Essentially they are trying to discredit her in any way possible.
@@stevenmcsteven6693 lmfao ... Her name is Shannon Curry ... concerning her title you can call her Dr. Shannon Curry ... You can call her Dr. Curry ... you can her Doc ... calling her Dr. Shannon is not the protocol in the USA ...
@@stevenmcsteven6693 Because when addressing someone formally or respectfully in the United States, as in a doctor for example, we refer to them by their last name. Especially when it's someone we don't know personally and/or have a close relationship with. So wtf are you talking about?
She’s just a psychologist. Not necessarily smarter than the other, it’s just literally her job to be able to communicate effectively with average people like you. Long story short - not super intelligent, just amazing social skills and emotional intelligence
@@done1961 one things for sure she’s way smarter than you.. to obtain a doctorate in clinical psychology and become accredited is no easy feat extremely extremely difficult. Always the ones that know least that seem to have the most to say lol
@@mpro9446 She is no doubt smart but she seems to be 100+ smarter in that current situation because she is facing against a bunch of idiots who objected their own freaking question and disrespected everyone in the room.
@@AO-MH Is there any way of getting in touch with you? I'm searching for therapist but can't find any good ones who after hour of talking won't say that I have problems with anger management or giving me some kind of tests to determine if I have depression.
It's fascinating how this woman went from being factual and rigid to alive and excited, she really CARES about her work. It's incredible. We need more like her.
Hm... Firstly, it's woman, not "women". Your comment seems sarcastic because you capitalised CARE and used "fascinating" to describe her change of tone. Are you hinting that she's biased against Amber Heard?
OMG, she is describing Amber word for word. Just exactly how Johnny tried to do. I had to come back to this after Ambers testimony and wow is this totally accurate
Yes she has all the traits of an abuser. I don't know if JD does or not - but since we know Amber is abusive, a lot of his verbal abuse and rage towards her may be nothing more than the normal lashing out of a victim who's realizing how bad they've been treated.
When she started talking about emotional reactivity and how people suffering from BPD have a tendency to get physical to stop people from leaving because they fear abandonment is absolutely mind baffling me. Amber's statements make so much more sense with Dr. Curry's input. What a wonderful woman, I could listen to her for hours.
This is a sham trial. No judge in their right mind would allow such testimony in court. It's a completely subjective analysis by practitioner of pseudoscience.
Amber reminds me of my kids mother. Same thing a bully who never can admit she is wrong. Will do mental gymnastics to paint herself in a good light. Always thinking of herself
@@scottinnh88 Is the comment section where you can go to get your manhood back? How about you act like a man and stop cowering to women? It's not hard, just tell them no and walk away.
@@scottinnh88 Thank you for sharing. It's always so hard to deal with those kinds of people - my mother is also sharing some of those traits. She always tries to make it seem like she is such a good person when she is really not, the issue with her is that she can't really distinguish that what she's doing is wrong since she has nothing bad or hurtful in mind. It's basically the polar opposite with the same end results.
Its great to have such people as teachers but they have so much going on in their research driven mind that they take up jobs as practitioners and scientists. That is unfortunate but nothing can be done about it. They have the best sense of explanation of any topic. God Gifted i say.
This woman is so captivating and oozes such amazing confidence but yet doesn’t come off as conceited. I would love to have a fraction of her intelligence and confidence.
@@Bspired No offense to her evidently impressive intelligence and admirable professional experience, but damn shes also very easy on the eyes. Wifey material 100%
...and just now she comes out and admits that she still *loves* Johnny. While still clinging to her story and playing woe-is-me. Amazing. 20 years from now, her picture will be in every textbook and dictionary next to the phrase "Borderline Personality Disorder." I kinda feel bad for all the BPD sufferers out there who aren't criminal psychos.
Curry just gave a superficial gloss of Borderline and Histrionic personality disorder with no specific fact checked evidence of individual occurrences where Amber is concerned.
I am a single father who lived every word and detail of a borderline partner with a child involved..... My son's mother never could accept the reality that she had anything wrong or any problem because she was just that good at hiding it to others. It is truly amazing that this testimony depicts even the ability to hide it so well. For the first 4 years of my son's life I endured every detail of the rage and behavior described here. I documented the behavior for almost 2 years only to have the court system mediator try to say that I also was mentally ill also. The court system was so broken that she had communicated with the social worker who was assigned to us prior to any meetings and filled her head with lies about me (including false accusations of sexual abuse to my own son) when they were not even supposed to be communicating. It was a literally an art form of how well she maintained looking like she was a victim. Any abuse I took from her behavior was all in my own home until I could finally evict her(with one month notice) from it, this made her go ballistic, damaging my car and throwing food at me. I went through four different attorneys before finally ending up with two women that were like angels sent from heaven. One of them specialized in women with borderline personality disorder (Irene renillo) in the other one was a judge (Denise rini). They immediately understood the severity of the situation and acted faster than anyone else I had gone to. Before even getting in front of a judge they were able to get me residential custody of my son. Want to see a grown man cry? I did that day knowing it was finally over. Even listening to this testimony I was still educated more on border lines.even though surreal and brought back terrible memories of this painful awful time in my life trying to protect my own son. For any other men out there that are stuck in this situation the longer you stick around the worse it gets. For the sake of your children please seek the legal help you need....
Sending you and your son an immense amount of love. 𝗛𝗨𝗚𝗘 spirit hug to you both. As someone who was the daughter of a father who fought for me through divorce and molestation from my moms boyfriend… I can tell you you’re efforts are not unnoticed. Just as those two wise and intelligent women saw, the manipulation will not stand. Stay strong for your your son, you’re a greater roll model than you think and you deserve every ounce of recognition for that. Truly 🙏
I am a mental health professional and have issued the very test this clinician described on multiple occasions. She did a fantastic job explaining Amber Heard's disorder(s) and is helping to educate the public. I would be remiss if I did not also add that people suffering from personality disorders can, and often do NOT abuse others if they seek help and choose not to act on their impulses.
My now ex friend, is a great friend when on her meds, but when she stops taking them, she becomes so narcissistic. And I decided that I didn't want to be her punching bag again. She's also schizophrenic.
You are right I have BPD and there are various levels of this disorder but I do not go around abusing the people that I love and whether you’re on medication or not choices are still made I also suffer from bipolar disorder and anxiety disorder and you have to be able to first and foremost take responsibility for your own actions and your own words where things escalate is when a person is a narcissist and blames others for their actions and their words which is very clear in this case with the way that Amber treats Johnny. It’s very sad actually and one of the things I wanna mention is that for a person with severe BPD they are very well aware of what they are doing and saying they just don’t care
@@JodiPatriceShaw same for me with my BPD and Co-occurring anxiety and depression - never once have I ever abused in any way or lashed out at my partner or any loved ones the way Amber and other BPD folk may CHOOSE to. And that's with me having had that as a child also. You don't treat those you love and care about like that, very wrong and completely inexcusable. One shoe definitely does not fit all like people assume.
I'm studying to become a psychologist. Not gonna lie, I've been slacking in learning my material...Kind of "Learn and forget after a test." But watching this. I realized I need to get my crap together and actually solidify all the materials and master it. Thank you for the inspiration Doctor.
Please do and take it seriously. My daughter freshman year just ended and she’s studying the same and has slacked off. Nothing better than to see the absolute best in your future field to kick your ass than something like this. I’m sure you’ll be amazing. Best of luck.
Holy crap she literally just described what everyone heard on the audio tapes. Amber saying it is “killing her” when he leaves in the middle of an argument. Johnny describing having to physically restrain her to get by her when she cornered him from room to room throughout the house. The initiating violence as a means to express this rage and then using resulting minor injuries from her own aggressive behavior as a weapon against Johnny to punish him for making her feel that way. Absolutely crazy how much this hits the nail on the head!
Omg totally makes sense. How she always complains that he is abandoning arguements midway and how she runs after him like an angry child would to a parent and bangs at his door. While Johnny is trying to cope and calm down so things don't escalate, she on the other hand doesn't make an effort to stop herself and is overcome by emotions that lead to these escalations.
I've never seen this woman before, but she was amazing in her presentation. So clear, so precise and concise. This was almost a lecture for everyone, as well as a deposition.
Not to be a dick but this is direct testimony, answering questions posed by the party that called the witness. Deposition testimony is taken out of court usually at the request of the opposing party.
she's like one of those women out of a crime book. professional. calm. intelligent. good at what she does. likeable character. imagine picking her brain for a whole day.
So impressed with this pychologist's ability to explain, in layman's terms, the ins and outs of personality disorders, to the point of using relative situations to illustrate how that plays out in relationships, situations, and circumstances. I'd take a course (or ten) from this doctor anyday! She summed up and backed up the entire scenario of these situations with Johnny and Amber by explaining borderline personality disorder succintly and how it plays out in real life. THIS is a professional doctor and witness, unlike the other psycholgoist who sounded like a defensive, biased unprofessional. Bravo!
Now compare that to the other psychiatrist and you'll see the night and day difference between a professional and a "professional", this statement is completely factual and based on evidence meanwhile the other testimony dodges talking about the actual tests administered, she lazily checks the boxes and half assedly fills out the forms, shorthands everything in her own 'style', and does nothing but refer to the victim as 'she' and the perpetrator as 'he' the entire time in a completely hypothetical scenario. All those words saying "he is the aggressor and she is the poor innocent victim who only lashes out in retaliation", all that based on hearsay and 90% of the garbage spewed out of her mouth started with "well amber told me this". Not once did Dr. Curry state even an ounce of hearsay and she gladly explained every little detail and then some about how her tests worked and how reliable they are when asked. The other 'therapist'' did nothing but bash a fellow practitioner in an attempt to discredit her but she also stated lies and misrepresented data the entire time, completely unwilling to discuss any test results even when being interrogated by the lawyers. Honestly, curry could go on for hours with interesting, factual, and relevant data and no one would even get the least bit bored meanwhile it was clear half the court tuned out 5 minutes into the other testimony and just like Dr. Curry predicted that buffoon said exactly what was foreseen, not a single fact uttered the entire time besides "Johnny does drugs" and also comedically the exact test Curry brought up; the one she proved that amber manipulated and purposefully fudged in an attempt to minimize her disorder... If that doesn't prove her credibility and lack thereof for the other psychiatrist then I don't know what would, she predicted the future by saying "here's the only test results the other 'expert' is going to bring up and here's how it's false and inaccurately filled in", and sure enough, what does she do? Brings up that exact test and jumps straight to hearsay and completely dodges anything and everything about the results... That lady needs to be disbarred and the "50 cases" that she testified on need to be reviewed and she needs jail time for the blatant sexism and abuse of the system she's shown in the court room. Curry ought to seek a defamation suit against her while we're at it, how has her blatant disregard for the tests and her obviously clouded and biased judgement made it this far without being caught or punished in the slightest???
I think borderline personality disorder has to come from CEN (Childhood emotional neglect). The parent basically teaches the child to ignore their inner feelings and conform to a certain image of “good behavior” to impress others, and not to be themselves. The child does not develop a sense of self, because they may believe it is selfish and sinful to focus on self and not others. Their identity is focused on pleasing others, and that gets exhausting. I don’t have borderline because I don’t hurt others, but I relate to some of the descriptions this lady was talking about, about the person confirming to what others expect, and great fear of rejection. Imagine putting in a ton of energy to make people like you, and then they still don’t; that can be very disturbing. I remember as a child, we were taught that it was selfish to focus on yourself, and to ignore our feelings and put on a facade of a certain image at church. I grew up with no sense of self and just mimicked others so they would like me, so I wouldn’t get rejected. 🤔 I have put great effort trying to build a sense of self separate from that over the years, because I knew it wasn’t a sustainable way to exist. But I can actually relate to this mindset. 😳
The fact that everyone in that room, including amber’s lawyers, remain completely silent when this Dr. is speaking is testament to how captivating she is when she speaks. I could listen to her teach about psychology for as long as she’s willing to talk because she just grabs my attention and doesn’t let go. What a powerhouse of a woman
You ought to listen to Jewels of Thought here on UA-cam. She is a Phd psychologist and covers this trial and other trials from the psychological point of view!
You have to wonder if Ms Heard's attorneys are setting up for a mental incapacity defense when all else fails. I cannot understand why they kept silent throughout this slam-dunk testimony. I realize that the witness is compelling and difficult to refute, but lawyers are supposed to be smart cookies too.
She's smart , hasn't let Amber's team trick her up even after trying to discredit by not being board certified, she's very attractive , intelligent and has a voice for speaking
She is a rare one, with the heart and the smarts. Unfortunately, most psychs are only a little above average smarts; poor acuity of mental vision and hence poor ability to crisply define terms and to further describe and explain in clear pictorial language with examples. The industry needs more like her.
i have bpd and she explained this so beautifully and articulately, just described the symptoms without any judgement words whatsoever, she managed to explain the hardest parts of the disorder without making me feel any shame around things that are actually really toxic, she's awesome
Before Dr. Curry got told to move on at 8:46 I legit forgot this was a testimony and not a lecture. Her passion for her work in psychology is absolutely inspiring.
This woman is amazing. As someone who has worked in mental health for 18 years, I would LOVE to attend a continuing education course given by her. She was so well prepared for this and her delivery of the information is phenomenal.
The difference between this psychologist and AH’s “psychologist” is astounding…. This lady has clear, concise evidence based on facts and evidence and only reaching conclusions from that evidence only. The other lady is nothing but hypotheticals and opinions rather than literally any facts at all and that should say everything
One is pretty, well taken care of, intelligent, has a good husband who gets muffins, doesn't let her feelings effect her opinion based on evidence, and facts... the other is not so pretty, not well taken care of, unhealthy, not so intelligent, very sexist, and bias, lets her emotions effect her opinion, ate her husband, and all the muffins.
@@ReadyPlayerTomVR Aye she's married to the Muffin Man. She's also kinda sorta hot when she puts her cheeky librarian glasses on. "Your books are overdue Mr Tom, 24 HOURS OVERDUE"
@@Thoughtland lol Oh god please stop. I wouldn't touch karen, I mean dr. Hughes. Can't control her emotions sitting in a courtroom, getting angry to be called Dr. Curry lol meanwhile she's a psychologist, calm down sweet heart lol.
I love that she addresses the jury while answering questions. They are the ones that will determine who is telling the truth, and who is lying. Excellent witness for JD!
This psychologist is sharp! She is an outstanding witness and speaks clearly and concisely in a manner that anyone can comprehend. I had a Mother with borderline personality disorder along with many other disorders and this testimony is spot on and clearly describes the disorders as well as the persons behavior attached to it. Thank god for this Psychologist and her wealth of information and intellect.
I had a grilfriend with BPD, no offense to your mother, but that most have been incredibly difficult to deal with. I have never been more confused, broken hearted, and well in pain more than I was in that relationship and the subsequent break up. I'm not sure what it was like with your mother, but the way the can make you feel like the most special and also worst person in the world is very confusing.
She described Johnny depp more than amber based off her definitions. She’s just a pickme and Johnny depp wouldn’t chose her. He would just be with amber again
We all should appreciate this trial taking place. It’s going to make history and hopefully bring more awareness to these personality disorders and the potential victims.
I have so much respect for Johnny depp and what he has done to show the world as i have gone through it and currently still do having a child with my ex.
i don’t love the way you phrased this. it’s not her fault she has personality disorders. it’s likely a result of trauma. people with personality disorders can better themselves. they shouldn’t be feared or viewed as monsters.
@@oliviastilley2838 well yes but you should view monsters as monsters? There can be understanding for people who suffer from mental illnesses but it’s should NEVER be an excuse for the disgusting behaviour that Amber Heard has shown. There’s a line
Personality disorder doesn't cause you to violently harm someone you claim to love!! A Narcissistic person is very abusive physically & mentally!! How are they missing her Narcissistic traits??
I've never listened to a psychologist and wanted them to tell me everything about myself. She's clearly knowledgeable professional but also really relatable and scientific in explaining her judgements. Plus she's gorgeous without playing on it and her voice is really easy to listen to. I could listen to her lecture all day. I reckon a person could learn a lot from her.
College lesson? Sorry brother but they don't teach this in college. this woman is on a whole different level. No politics, no ideologies, just raw facts. College Psych Professors can learn from her. I know I did.
She’s good. Speaks to the jury, doesn’t speak at them, states things in an easy way for the jury to understand, and presents herself as being very pleasant.
c'mon She definitely cant be having those issues she identifies and helps resolve 😂 Though this space of study where they label actions as disorders, needs to be consumed with caution
It's not Johnny Depp's fault that Amber Heard has borderline personality disorder nor is he a therapist that he can fix her but the judge has to see that just because she has the personality disorder does not give her the right to destroy someone's else's whole life. She needs to get help that's the bottom line
@@unexpected8166 This is a problem with how we as people judge other people. Jonny Depp needs his good reputation back and after that it would be best for all to practice ourselves in forgiveness.
I don't think she will get a lenient judgement because she previously made fun of Johnny's medical conditions and also he was not excused by having his problem.
YES! I think the next thing her team will do, is try to say OK you're right, she is this way... but it's not her fault, and she shouldn't be held culpable for her actions, because she needs help! I'd bet money on it! Just wait, they are desperate and will try anything at this point! I think they will also decide to not put her on the stand!! I hope Johnny's team gets to grill her and she shows her true colors!!!
As a Psychologist myself, I am proud of how she handled this, you can't play mind games with a psychologist, like this lawyer tried to do, most respected psychologist hold a PhD which is equivalent to a Lawyers JD
@@daniandi487 itbwasntbworrybor distress of hearing aomeoname describe uyou possibly having aa mentally illness with abusivebsyptoms and if you're the victim be upset people may avoid you. She rolled her eyes and belittled body language also with this lyer attitude. So you responded with arrogance. You mean I n a narcissistic and attitude your are right and she is lying? Just what for the Look what you made me do testimony. This doctor just gave the jury the rule book or how the trick works she will not be able to manipulate her testimony as noe people will see the mental illness at work I anticipate she will what aboutism regarding irrelevant past abuses or details to paint a victim narrative and it won't make sense or clearly look intended and said with a intent to deflect manner. It's what the real nasty ones who can't see they are ill. The ones who just give trauma and born with this. No remorse no guilt jut self survival justification for Their actions. I have been on the brutal end of this growing up. They control the world and it'd perception while the feed and abuse thei weapomized illness and ofte they do it in plain sight. Many of the real bad o es have many marriages or relation ships.she had alot of ones that ended quick was that her prey that got away? She sued Doug Stanhope for defamation and threatened is lively hood and futuree with her clout and financial power when he said hid friend was in trouble a while ago. It's starting to look clear he was abusing substandnce to cope like a majority of like victims. He talks with a deflated and apathetic tone with humor and sarcasmnto deflect and deal with the pain and trauma like majority victims. He mentioned public opinion and why he was fighting her legally sounding like his integrity and lively hold of his reputation while loosung his work and passions or taken from him. I am sensing this focus of he wanting to take her power if he is able to put doubt into public opinion he is exposing her now. Both of them are done but he unlike most victims don't get that. And live with their abuser and there damage the rest of their lives. Sad to see all this. Either way it's just a little filled with abuse and destruction. Destroying both lives.
Any therapist that gets interviewed for a job by going over the guy's house and getting wine and dined and doesn't think that's bizarre sounds like those actresses that go to Weinstein's house to get a part in a movie. It all sounds pretty sinister and sleazy to me
22 years as a psych nurse This lady knows her stuff big time !!! and nailed this disturbed individual perfectley AMAZING STUFF So refreshing to hear someone intelligent in this circus
It's also interesting to note that, if you're someone who's been looking at this case and how AH behaves, or let's her facial expressions wander, you can see how defeated she looks as the doctors talks about these issues - she went from being pissed at one point and intensively writing, to now just looking tired and worn. I think this is the most natural I've seen her look the entire time.
I'm concerned how far they are going to push AH. Only in that BPD or straight bi- polar dx has a high rate of self harm and suicide. I mean, I understand that JD is innocent. I think everyone understands that at this point. Are ppl happy to see her jump off a bldg here? They hate her this much? Is there any point where the jury can get the point without humiliating her to the point of provocation? I wonder how it will play out. It's wd be like bullying a mentally ill kid then being shocked when they hang themselves. 🙄
@@tonyploma2330 Really? I’d say it’s closer to Donald Trump. Heard is BPD, Trump is a malignant NPD, but they’re in the same general group of disorders. And would you mind keeping your politics to yourself?
@@tonyploma2330 to politicize this is an absolute ignorant/arrogant/blind disrespect about what mental health entails. Just the fact that you "othered" and put the "left" into a mental health illness category, actually says a lot more about you, than the left at all. It shows your mind is trapped in simplistic cognitive functions...such as confirmation bias, cognitive distortions, limiting beliefs. To demonize a side that you don't understand, and feel threatened by, shows low emotional intelligence. Interestingly, in most mental conditions...those people have very low emotional intelligence. While pointing fingers, looking outside yourself, for the causes of all ills...maybe take a look at your own deep rooted wounding and beliefs. Look into how fundamental attribution error plays a role in your ability to excuse yourself, give yourself grace...while vilifying others for their behaviors. Try on introspection and metacognition for size. People on the extreme left AND right, are more likely to have mental issues. Why? Because of what causes extremism...causes more blindness to more, the farther either side one goes. The more moderate, open, types, are actually generally the most mentally well.
I agree! So much of the behaviors she explained based on the results of MMPI were behaviors Johnny spoke of in his testimony, like how she got so upset when he broke her routine of taking his shoes off and getting the glass of wine himself. Something most of us wouldn't be bothered by.
I totally agree! Unfortunately, I had to live through these experiences that she is describing. It was a very traumatizing education. Hard to spot when you're in the middle of it. But once you start to connect the dots, it becomes crystal clear. The challenge then becomes ...how to get out. Hardest lesson I ever had to learn!
SMART TO NOT PERSONALIZT THE mental illness to Her she spoke directly about the symptoms and typical details of how it affects those who do functim with it. Feels like she just gave the jury the play book to apply to the prior testimony and marinate for days as the doors and clarity of everything makes to much a clear answer. Also if she testifies the doc gave the info on how th magic trick work thus delivering the misdirection and ah of the Magician. Her testimony of she is the victim is gonna start to not work and the narrative and control someone who abuses by manipulation may just start to show with her. She didn't act upset that the doc is insinuating she is a danger and mentally ill. She acted sissmissice and rolled her eyes. There hasn't been any sense of personal self awarness of having sickness our done anything wrong and is feeling almost like look what you made me do. I'm no genius but many past boy friends bolted quickly and their are many. Are they prey that got away? Just sayin
@@The_truth_is_in_the_dream Just because someone has a doctorate degree doesn't equate being capable of verbally communicating their intelligence as an genuinely well human being.
As a fellow Forensic Psychologist, I'm so glad to see people see what the profession is all about. Dr. Curry is presenting the data exactly as she should - the testing does not PROVE anything except that her scores are similar to that of others who also have these traits. And she's masterfully staying out of the pitfalls the defense keeps trying to trap her in. Although that said, the defense is just astoundingly bad. I can't help but think that any decent attorney met with Ms. Heard and said "nope."
Agreed. You know, I have been thinking, this is bottom of the barrel legal team for amber, I think she pocketed most of the money and they are working this case for that 100M payout. They really are that bad.
Hmm Mabye before I get married to a woman I should go to a Psychologist first lol ( doctor is the calm or sick in her head before marry her ) we all know the saying don’t stick dick in crazy
She has been spot on with her diagnosis of Amber. We've seen her behavior play out throughout this trial so far. It makes sense to me now why Amber looks directly to the jury when she's talking, because when Dr. Curry was explaining her diagnosis to the jury she was looking at them and actually engaging with them where as Amber is mimicking Dr. Curry and attempting to do the same. Dr. Curry definitely knows what she talking about, plus I've been thoroughly engaged while she's explaining her diagnosis of Amber. Dr.Curry has had my full attention throughout this entire video with her way of explaining Amber's mental disorders. If she had her own show I would definitely watch it.
@@orangewarm1 and how would you know what I know? Have you met me, or are you a psychologist? You made your own assumption redundant according to your own logic!
@@goliathtigerfishes well not only that mental health is way bigger then it is now and huge then it was way back then it's now being proven how mental health is real back then people didn't want to believe it or they just shunned it out
As hard as this has been, and still is for Johnny, he has done this world a favor that no amount of money could buy! Bless you Johnny. It took a massive amount of courage for him to ask for this to be filmed and shown around the world. He knew his life would be exposed to the core. He has educated the world. Let us see who uses this knowledge to help and save lives. You are so loved and admired Johnny! 💗💞💗
I can see why AH didn’t want this televised! It shows her for what she truly is, something she certainly doesn’t want happening! I feel for any lawyers firm who would have to defend her, if she ever comes before the courts again, which I’m sure she will!
As a retired heath professional who worked with domestic abuse, what Johnny Depp has brought to everyone's attention at great emotional cost to himself is the complexity of male abuse. Thank you Johnny.
Millions of men have endured these behaviours over decades. It’s taken a Hollywood celebrity marriage breakup, suing one another, to demonstrate the utter contempt the So-called Justice System has for men who’re abused by their psychotic partners. How do these women get diagnosed with their illnesses, if the Police Believe their Lies, and arrest and jail the mentality and physically beaten man? To say there’re “No Winners” here, is an understatement of biblical proportions.
Same here. I have worked with many couples where the female is the main abuser. It is so unfortunate that such women often have nowhere to obtain help because when they tell a female therapist what they are doing, the therapist often minimises, excuses or justifies the woman's behaviour and shifts the blame to the man, and so the woman receives no help and sometime even receives reinforcement of her condition. And men are mostly disbelieved. I find my own colleagues and the wider counselling industry culture to be disappointing. We need to wake up to the fact that men and women are pretty close to equal in abusing each other, and in many if not most cases -- not all cases -- the abusive relationship is a mutual dynamic which both are contributing to in some way, actively or passively, or both.
I think she's made me realise why i've been following this case so much and why I even care. My sister has this disorder, she put me through hell as teens and it just hits home so much all the stuff this woman has said.
this case is bringing this topic to the surface for so many, making it a public discussion which is great! Amber is actually doing a great service for the public haha
My therapist and I worked together for years to figure out that my sister and mom were so toxic and dangerous for my and my family’s life, well-being-mental, emotional, and physical. It was so painful to go no contact and cut them out of our lives, however, the positive impact this had on all our lives was noticeable within weeks.. I have BPD, C-PTSD, severe anxiety disorder, and major depression. Emotional regulation is possible IF YOU WORK AT IT! It requires a lot of self awareness and being able to be brutally honest with yourself and allow yourself to get constructive criticism from your closest loved ones that have your best interests at heart. My therapist has worked with my family and I as a whole, individually, in pairs… I am doing my damndest to make sure my children are getting their needs met, plus more, my husband and I have a healthy relationship, and so I can be the best mother, wife, and person possible. It’s hard but it’s worth it!
I think we all have experienced a little of what Amber did to Johnny and some have been on the other end and acted like Amber. It happens way more than others want to admit in toxic families or relationships
Textbooks can be somewhat useless (for lack of a better word) depending on who writes it. You might be getting someone who knows the field, but can't articulate/explain it or someone who doesn't even know the field very well, but has nepotism/luck in their favor and get to write the book.
@@justsomeguywithagoatee8337 our course involved very little of the book. We had the DSM IV at the time for reference but at UGA the course was basically guest speakers who were leaders in that specific behavioral study and they would lecture us on each one for a few hours a week. They talked about some of their cases and research. It was awesome!
I just understood my mom in 29 mins , something I've been trying to do my whole life...used to think she just blatantly hates me because of something I unknowingly did, thank you
I can only imagine how validated Johnny must feel listening to this, and having all his points against Heard 100% supported by a professional on a psychological level.
The quality of her testimony and crash course she gave to court aside, her immense patience of ''Do you recall'' torture in cross examination was gold.
Amber just looks like a special kind of crazy. Not that Johnny is anything special either. The way he blew thru most of his money is not the sign of someone who has it all under control.
@@trvman1 What are you even talking about uhhh objection hearsay!!!!!! Wait..............I'll object to that to your honor"......I......I.....I...I.......I'll allow it" objection!!!!! Judge: bruh....
As someone who suffers from Borderline Personality Disorder (BPD) while I can relate to Amber’s mental and emotional disorder, it isn’t an excuse to treat people like trash, if anything it is to become conscious of ourselves, take responsibility, and always striving to become better. Don’t let anyone mistreat you because of their disorder, it isn’t an excuse.
@@itsjustmaddisen Thank you, however it wasn’t always like this. I can admit that, initially, growing up I was much like Amber. I was very angry, I was verbally and emotionally abusive, I blamed everyone, accepted no responsibility, and pushed away people who genuinely loved and cared for me but couldn’t keep setting themselves on fire to keep me warm. It took me awhile to realize that I was the problem, and even longer to realize that it didn’t have to be that way. While yes we need more awareness about mental and emotional health, we also can’t enable people that they can do whatever and use their mental disorder as a crutch to mistreat others because it is a viscous cycle that will only repeat itself until we hold ourselves accountable for our behavior. Again, thank you for the kind words and have a wonderful day, I appreciate you reading and taking the time to leave a kind comment.
Elizabeth I also have BPD, and was exactly like you described. I couldn't have said these words better myself. I tell everyone that I constantly have to keep myself in check, because if I don't I can "slip up" and my old self will emerge. It's very difficult and hard to deal with especially with all the sigmatism around BPD. it is awful not only for those who have been on the"wrath side" of our disorder but also for us. Most my life it felt like I was in this deep fog with no clarity and scared, alone, etc. But then once I learned that I'm not mY BPD, can function normally and have normal emotions, and healthy boundaries it's like I woke up from that fog. It's like one day everything cleared up and I seen the world in a new light, like I had seen the sun for the first time.
This lady just read AHs mail! She literally talked about everything she’s doing! The copying of a persons look, attention seeking, anger and vanity! Utilizing their looks, lying, manipulation, always needing to shift their narrative. Scary!!!
Amber is using every fiber of her being, all the skill she’s learned during her acting days to put on a brave face here in front of what could only be described as a humiliating experience. And she absolutely deserves it.
She's a psychotic. Sadly, a lot of psychos are actors because they learn to act emotions because they lack them. That's also why so many Hollywood relationships come to a crashing end or are short flings. They don't have any real emotions. They act. All the time. Heard is one of those people. Depp is a good guy, though he shows a few signs of the celeb life, he shows no signs of being psychotic.
Her explaining how people with this personality disorder go from idealising people to thinking as lowly as possible about them matches perfectly with Amber's testimony of how she had this perfect image of Johnny and then suddenly he was a monster. She continues to put nails in her own coffin.
I think after hearing this psychologist's analysis it's VERY CLEAR that Amber's allegations are fictionalised symptoms of her personality disorder, and she was simply driving Johnny absolutely freaking insane with her unpredictable and nonsensical behaviour.
The way this psychologist describes Amber is word for word the same behavior of my ex-gf. She would give herself bruises and black eyes whenever she was unhappy with me.. and constantly fabricated literally everything with me. It was impossible to see at first, until I'd already wasted a year with her
@@tobitaktlos3241 I believe so, in a part, but she still deserves punishment, other wise she will believe she did nothing wrong, and that her mental illness allows her to be able to be abusive. I have borderline personality disorder, and have a very difficult in relationships, as I always push people away, but make them feel like it’s their fault, trying to create a codependency, and a appearance of codependency on my part. I don’t allow myself relationships rn, as I am still sick and working on my mental illness. I guarantee you that Amber feels as if she isn’t guilty
The moment I heard about Amber Heard I knew she has BPD. I have it and the things she does is highly relatable. People want to sugar coat it and say we arent actually trying to hurt people- stop the bull. If you hurt our feelings we will treat you as if you are our worst enemy. Soothe our feelings and we then idolize you. I loved all my exes but treated them terribly when they upset me and then denied it and try to justify my actions. Its until now where I actually got the help I need and realize when I am acting irrationally and what I can do to stop it and calm down.
As a victim of an abuser who I suspect had BPD (he never went to therapy so it is not confirmed, though I am in uni for psych and as the years pass it only confirms this for me) Thank you for admitting that even though you loved your partners, you treated them terribly and then denied it. My ex would never admit that, and that is the part that really hurts so fricken much. To put a person through so much, and then just say you didn't at all!! So, thank you for getting help, thank you for seeing errors in your past ways, and thank you for admitting those errors instead of hiding them in a little box in your mind.
Not that I'm siding with Amber Heard, but this is as believable as a zodiac sign fortune. She's basing ALL of this on a questionnaire that exclusively allows true or false to be selected. The determination of a written personality test that allows 1 of only 2 inputs, is inherently incredibly subjective. With the right series of questions, you could determine anyone to be anything. If that is professional psychology, then that is pure non-sense. More likely it is judicial system influenced BS.
We don’t really have empathy for those with nasty personality disorders. If a psychopath murders, do we give them leniency for their illness? MAYBE Heard is dealing with something difficult, we can acknowledge it and learn from it for future, but a nasty person is a nasty person whether it’s from a disorder or not, and she is a nasty person that needs a learning experience.
@@done1961 Yes, my mother has been unapologetically nasty to me for years, to put it lightly and one of the only ways that I can feel sorry for her is that I wish her presumed Antisocial Personality Disorder wouldn't keep her from feeling true kindness, compassion and love. It doesn't make her a good person just because she's mentally ill. She isn't helpless. She knows right from wrong and chooses to do wrong. So does Amber Heard.
@@qi47 Indeed, she did considerable psychological damage. I'm glad to see throughout the interviews that he does have people who care for his well-being around him.
On behalf of all the men out there that have a partner exactly like what she explained,I'd like to say, thank you for describing the type of emotional and physical abuse that women like this put us through behind closed doors.
As a woman who has been diagnosed with this a long time ago.....I am sorry for what you went through. I know I am much better after seeking and getting help. God bless the partners who can love us through this.
Looking at how Dr. Curry describes such complex topics shows that she is truly a profound speaker and educator! My sibling has been struggling with severe borderline personality disorder for years, which has resulted in the manifestation of many of the traits that Dr. Curry is explaining - rage, explosiveness, self-harm, externalized blame, and power struggles in relationships. I've studied human behaviour and dual diagnosis (special needs and mental illnesses) professionally and personally, and everything that Dr. Curry is saying is spot-on!
I love how the psychologist even while describing and explaining ambers scores refers to it as “people with this score show…” or “they” instead of directly addressing it as ambers. Very respectful.
Yep. This is probably not her first rodeo in expert witness testimony and she understands the limitations of her role, as well as the data she is working with. Continually referring to the research instead of the person is a key distinction of expert witness testimony, and allows her to maintain her objectivity. If she were to make any conclusions about Amber directly, they would likely be met with objections and she would be forced to rephrase her statements.
@@davemoody9263 It's interesting that yesterday when the witness was being cross examined by that female lawyer, it was established that this is the first time in all her 15 years of practice that this witness has been called to give expert witness testimony in court. It shows her level of professionalism and non-bias in her findings and testimony, and I'm sure this will help Johnny's case a great deal.
Depp’s lawyers have so cooly and calmly laid out a very strong case where we can genuinely see the truth of the matter. This testimony is coming at the perfect time in the trial to be incredibly impactful, and the questions being asked are so masterfully designed in their pertinence and relevance. Either way, Depp has won this. The world now knows the truth and this testimony sealed the coffin of Heard’s fictitious and heinous lies that could have ruined his life and legacy forever had he not been brave enough to come forward with this trial.
I don't think his life will ever be ............ the same, no matter how the trial comes to an end. I hope he is able to recover without drugs and alcohol if possible. At least he has had a great career and is respected highly for his artistic achievements. Without the burden of her charms, he may still do some fantastic work. I looking forward to that.
I was in a relationship with a woman who showed significant signs of BPD - distorted and negative self image, obsession, fear of being left alone, emotional outbursts over every small thing, etc. I did what the psychologist explained - at first all my attention went to her, I did everything to please her, didn't see my friends, barely left the house, went everywhere with her... and I did that because otherwise she would either get mad or she would be in a sour mood. I completely submitted myself to her. 2 years in, I felt that I haven't seen my friends since forever and wanted to hang with them again... she would allow it on the condition that she would come with me and no was not an answer. I told her no once and the emotional outburst was hell. Also to note is that from early on in the relationship she told me that if I wasn't with her, she would have killed herself already. This line... If you weren't with me, I'd kill myself... carried on for four years. She didn't fail to remind me that from time to time. I was unhappy and miserable, couldn't end the relationship because of fear. Tried to be my best for her, expecting a change but it only got worse... to a point that I was diagnosed with depression and had suicidal tendencies. She brushed it off as... How can you feel this way if you are with me. Gaslighting was an everyday issue. After regular therapy and psychiatrist visits I pulled myself together and told her that I'm miserable and that I want to take a time off from this. To cool down, be separate and have a chance to focus on myself for one moment... She snapped, tried to jump down from an 8th floor window... after she was denied and held back... locked herself in the restroom and drank bleach. I called ambulance, she was locked for a night in a psych ward and got heavily sedated. Later i started to think back to it... She really didn't put much effort into actually trying to jump down from a window and from the hospital they told me that she had barely ingested any bleach. In the end it was only to make a scene... to make a point that she could do it. That incident was a wake-up call for me... I just couldn't care anymore. I couldn't care less about her wanting to kill herself, because in the end I thought... If she would do it, I would be saved. I packed my bags, left... and she didn't kill herself, probably never even intended to. It was just a way for her to manipulate me.... she still lives on, looking for another guy to fall victim to her. I myself on the other hand have never felt so free. My career got a boost, i came off my medication and enjoying every single moment. I'm still single and I would say that these 4 years spoiled the concept of a relationship for me. I'm careful with dating and have trust issues, but slowly getting there. Still in therapy tho. There were even more gruesome details in this toxic relationship I could write a book about, but kept it tl:dr format. Sorry for all the typos... not a native English speaker. Take care everyone and stay safe.
Feel sorry for you mate, truly horrible story. I was with a woman who turned out to have bpd.. I'm glad I am alive today (and with few mental scars) and are married with the best woman for me. I'm not a native english speaker myself.
Oh how much I can relate to most of what you said especially the "id kill myself" part. I tried my hardest for 2 years but god knows how much it drained me to my core and im glad I got out! Happy for you that you got free from such hell! Its very easy to say to someone to leave a partner when theyre on the outside looking in. Its a whole different experience when youre actually in it.
This has blown me away. We all called it but to hear a psychologist speak about these symptoms and illnesses and being able to already confirm much of what she says through the testimony of Ms heards former assistant and Johnny's friends. And the stories out there about her sister and mother...this is as close to a smoking gun that a case like this can have.
Not really, because this just shows Mrs Turd is abusive and not well in the head..for Johnny to win he has to prove defamation since this is what the trial is about.. I'm hoping for the Jury to see it his way but winning a defamation suit is tough.
@@Awesum Many, many people suffer from one disorder or another who have learned and practice coping skills to mitigate their effects on those around them. Because the effects can be controlled, having a disorder does not eliminate culpability when harm is caused to others. Depp may or may not get the verdict he desires, but this trial has most assuredly restored his reputation and destroyed Amber’s.
@@Primus54 In the court of public opinion for sure, Amber has been unmasked. Will this give Depp his career back? That remains to be seen, I truly hope so, atleast by the end the majority will no longer view him as a abusive man
As a master's level therapist working on my doctorate with a focus on assessment, I can say that she did a really wonderful job breaking down very complex assessments and making them understandable for a layperson while still capturing the results.
@@lady7571 In my experience, Borderline and Narcissistic personality disorders share similarities and are often mistaken for one another. There may be traits there, but overall I believe that the psychologist felt her presentation was better explained by BPD than NPD.
I think this is public lynching. Medical records should be sealed in court, this is a violation of human rights. The crime is defamation not her mental health. We just need to proof what she accused him it’s not true. I am with Johnny but I don’t like public lynching. Besides you can’t judge someone if you don’t know them. A test is prejudicial. If I was the judge I would not even listen. It’s a prejudicial report against her rights. I’ll bet you everyone of us would have similar results. It’s not an exact science subject to interpretación and be prejudicial.
This was like having therapy. In half hour she described my abusive ex wife perfectly. Somehow I feel better about her as I know all the vile things she accused me off were her disorders not mine.
She said they do this at the beginning of new relationship or meeting someone as they idealize them tho. Not sure that explains why she is copying him now 🤔
Because she is an expert and has a doctorate. Also she is used to court proceedings, so she knows what precisely what language to use so that she is not rudely interrupted. It's not heresy because she is talking about general symptoms of having these disorders that clearly defined by the DSM.
Yeah, I was waiting for Amber's team to be all Phoenix Wright on her ass. But this time, Phoenix Wright decided to leave the room. Oh god. Now I'm just picturing a meme of this trial where people play Pursuit - Cornered music to Johnny's team absolutely whooping Amber's ass.
Amber sits there like “none of this has got anything to do with me” her expression is unbelievable! This psychologist is fantastic, what a blow to Amber.
I was in 10 years in relationship with women with BPD, and i know AH inside this was hardest time for her to listen all critic and couldn't gaslight, project, scream and abuse. I dont want to be person who received after this court day all anger what she have after this ....
This is a true professional therapist! She is hitting the nail on the head so directly and so precisely, I feel as though I need therapy to clearly define who I am...
I hate the negative connotation with therapy. I'm studying to become a therapist and I think it's important for people to see a therapist just like you would a doctor to take care of your mind like you do your body
@@Icehound2 There was a joke on a TV show called the Nanny, that made that joke. But it makes sense - from hearing all the crazy stuff they hear, I believe they'd need therapy!
This is so helpful to anyone who has or had an intimate partner or family member (male or female) who has a personality disorder. Johnny stood up for all of us . Being lied about behind your back is a terrible thing.
You're doing her a disservice. That was almost certainly the most effective expert witness testimony I've ever seen, and I've seen a lot of them. She also happens to be extremely attractive of course, but suggesting she was chosen for her looks is just not on
@@johnbull1568 I think you misunderstood his comment. He never said they chose her for her beauty. I don't even think he meant she was beautiful as in attractive but she is amazing at her profession.
Psychologists can see through Amber’s sophisticated manipulation and her vindictive personality traits with absolute ease. Even so, I’ve no doubt that Amber truly believed she could outsmart the appropriate tests. That’s how confident and narcissistic she is. Her deep-seeded psychological issues are so transparent, it’s kind of sad. But it is fantastic to see such a highly knowledgeable professional draw such accurate conclusions and spell it out so appropriately. I hope JD wins with all my heart. He’s been victimised enough and it’s not ok.
Well the tests aren't particularly hard to fake, take questions like the introvert test, you'll get several similar questions where you rate 1-5 based on strong agree or strongly disagree and you'll get many obvious questions like "I would rather stay at home than go out on the weekends with my friends" or "if I am invited to a party I will attend without hesitation". These types of multiple choice tests will always be easy to fake but it takes a conscious psychopath to purposefully lie and fill in the wrong bubbles; I just wish the talked more about how she detected such deceit in such a test but ambers not particularly smart just because she knew how to game it although her analysis was still spot on. All she really said was "well its complicated" but I really wish she had more time and they'd allow her to properly explain it beyond the superficial explanation she was forced to give due to the imposed time constraints...
The justice system needs to vindicate him. He was EXTREMELY patient and kind to this woman. Never pressed charges against her eventhough she chopped his finger, and punched and hit him many times. Gave her divorce settlement of 7 million dollars for a 14 month marriage-More then she got from Aquaman. For what? So that she later would write about being a victim of domestic violence. It’s truly mind boggling how much she hated Johnny. On top during the marriage she had sexual affairs with both Ellon Musk and James Franco. All the while she’s trying to set Johnny up.
As somebody who has BPD I can tell you that it is an extremely difficult thing to live with, it is like some other force has control over and your emotions. I think it is important to note that being Borderline does not automatically make you a bad person. I have the self awareness enough to seek to understand my disorder and take accountability for my actions when I let it get the best of me. I think there’s something else at play here with her like narcissistic tendencies that are causing her to attempt to destroy another persons life just because she didn’t get her way. I have never gone that far even with people who legitimately did abuse me. Anyway I’m not defending her because I absolutely think that she is guilty but I would hate for her to become the poster child for BPD because most of us are really trying to get through life with a sometimes emotionally debilitating disorder the best that we can
I have BPD+ Schizophrenia and I honestly can’t relate to anything this professional is saying. I will admit when I’m in the wrong and I know when I’ve done wrong and I will apologise. Most people with BPD have this illness due to being abused themselves and going through trauma. I feel like what she’s explaining is more narcissistic than borderline. Everybody is now gonna think that people with BPD are horrible people 😭 they are not. They are people with a severe mental illness who have been through a lot of abuse and traumas in the past and are actually decent and kind hearted human beings who are suffering every day.
I have worked with individuals diagnosed with Borderline Personality Disorder, and I have been amazed at how expressive they are with words and art. It is a tough diagnosis, but it can be treated. Stay strong, I only have empathy. I think the word petulant fits Amber.
As a psychiatrist, I can honestly say I have never heard better explanations of Borderline and Histrionic Personality Disorders before. That court owes her tuition.
For reals, I felt like I was getting a university lecture with this presentation :P Fascinating stuff so expertly presented, especially for the laypeople like myself out there.
@@Novarcharesk you mean "laymen"!
you guys dont really help you just push drugs while being ignorant and not realising how indoctrinated you are from your "education".
@@misterengineer6568 that's the same thing...
@@rite2bcreative not really, one is a word and the other is a word used by stupido people.
She’s not just giving a testimony, she’s educating the jury and the public. Very enlightening.
dude this lady is legit, interesting as well
Mike Tacos- yes she is very enlightening.
Yes very much so and she looks very good doing it respectfully / so many typos lmao
She gave the very definition of hypocrite at the beginning and it was so subtle. She was so cool butter couldn't melt in her mouth.😎
She is showing how the Magicians Performa the trick removing the magical piercer and art of misdirection. The ply book of hoe th the mental illness works now the jury can think about the prior testimony the rest of the trial and now the dots connect and act like to missing context is Maki g the answer clear. If she testifies now it's gonna be now exposed and clear wht the manipulation and overall abusive behavior is what it looks like and her start to fight or flight as she won't be able to control the perception of her barrative thar justifies her or shows she had done nothing wrong. Prediction if she fumbles and runs into trouble it won't be long before the look what you made me do talk starts her lawyers did it immediately om their questioning asking what damage the abus causes and whT where the trauma and behavioral effect are. As if tonsay the abus causes her to abuse it isn't her fault. Felt like the docs info started right there. It felt like an odd narrative e they were crafting. Toonsad
The way this professional LOOKS at the jury directly shows how much she wants them to understand what she is educating them about. Bravo ma’am, bravo!
Expert witnesses know how to talk to a jury
Well said and agreed!
What a woman and what a lucky husband she got!
Exactly what I was thinking...Amazing confidence and knowledge
It's really about getting the room on agreement you want to look at different people and get their approval with their head. When she looks away oddly enough the previous person will focus on you to gain attention back. It's not just educational for sure ^^ she knows what she's doing
Well damn. It's like she read Amber like a book. This psychologist is a very wise woman, and her involvement in this case definitely helped to secure Johnny's case against Amber
Exactly what I said! Well said 👏🏿
yeah, this was one of the most devastating analyses of anyone I’ve ever seen.
and with Amber right there in the room.
Unforgettable!
Truth!
Finally, a professional, accredited therapist and clinical psychologist can see her for what she truly is. Amber Hear whether she has these 2 disorders had forever made a disservice to the community who works with victims of DV and sexual abuse and on a positive note it finally opens a wide door to start talking about Male victims and survivors of DV. Violence and mental illness have no gender, no social status, or
race.
EDITED on June 14, so as you can watch AH in her interview with Savanah D, you can see that Dr. Curry was right on the money with her diagnosis.
It’s about time men can feel ok coming out as victims of abuse.
it'd be freakin awesome but I doubt anything will change.
DV
Why does everyone believe the abuser?
She needs to be either in prison or a lockdown mental hospital. She's an evil, sick woman that will never work in the entertainment business again. She's TOXIC!
I can literally listen to this psychologist talk and explain things for hours. She'd be a great professor
Facts
@Kelcilyn .. +1. Agreed. . And easy to look at to boot. . Some say, "Smok'in Hot".
Of course she's taken....
I thought the same thing!
Except she'd rather make decent $.
This doctor is intelligent, articulate and literally lays everything out before you. She's not just making accusations, she's making things clear and concise. She's so calm. Excellent testimony.
I’m a psychologist, and the way this colleague is professionally ripping the test and explaining the disorders deserves nothing more than admiration, acknowledging and congratulations. I am amused by her confidence, her steady pose and the way she points out the details with very good examples and explanations.
The best? There is no way Heard’s lawyers can find holes in this. The test is scientifically standardized and it has a lot of time in the psychology world. They are going to need a lot of help to minimize the damage.
My deepest sympathies for the professional. What a woman!
What test is it?
@@adosian Yes, that's the test.
As she explained there are numerous other tests as well, so she compiled data from many sources to come to her conclusions. She explained that while some are multiple choice or easy to 'fake';symptoms, that particular test has open ended statements so it's apparent when there is repeated exaggeration and malingering (faking symptoms). Hahaha Heard!!;She really thinks she is the smartest one in the room, but nope GTF outta here with that ish Bish! 😂
thank you for raating thiss per se!
Exactly what is the test . She sounds l me and actress playing her lines certainly does not sound like a psychologist in any sense . Way to much bias and definitive opinion .
This is fascinating. You can see how excited she is talking about this; you can’t fake being passionate about your job!
Totally 💯 agree with you about everything in your statement.
She’s also extremely good at describing how she arrives at the diagnosis she does.
Wish I was this happy about my job lol
My boss would disagree with you…
J/k. She is a really good professional witness and able to describe technical issues in layman terms.
You can tell she is really good at her job! I'm glad it was her that assessed AH: a great witness!
She literally just won this case for him. She described every interaction he had with Amber word for word.
💯👌
Ohh yes she established the type of bad person she is .
@@milliesa969 All you have to do is look at heard and her lawyers to see what a bad person looks like. Literally everything they do is blatantly bad, incompetent, ridiculous, manipulative... it's insane
It's all a set up. Jonny Depp is a murderer.
I told you…… NO WIRE COAT HANGERS….!!!!!!!
This psychological test should be MANDATORY for every political figure currently in office and for all future candidates.
Yes! Had it only been given to the former President, Cheetolini.
This is a sham trial. No judge in their right mind would allow such testimony in court. It's a completely subjective analysis by practitioner of pseudoscience.
@@laflaca1530 or the current president, Sleepy Joe.
This is a tremendous idea
There's a staggering battery of tests required to qualify even to *guard* a container which MAY have nukes, yet POTUS, who has the codes, takes none of them. The founding fathers never imagined that anyone so unfit would get so close to Executive Office when they exempted the President from such scrutiny.
This doctor is no lightweight.
She's persuasive and remarkably articulate. And a natural teacher who knows her craft.
Right? If she was my lecturer I’d never miss a lesson! 🤩 she’s so easy to understand & she’s engaging.
@@humixmusic4lyf : amen.super smart lady.
she explains things in
a way the average
person can understand.
Awesome.
Dr Demartie on the Jodie Arias case was very much like Dr Curry.
Completely different case. I am just concentrating on Dr Demartie's professional knowledge and poise.
She's not afraid of that defense attorney either. But apparently Rottenborn is afraid of her lol
@@humixmusic4lyf she's also a perfect woman
I actually forgot about the case entirely and just enjoyed Dr. Curry’s lecture, what a brilliant woman!
this was the only full court video i didnt get bored of wihtitn 10 minutes
It's incredibly surreal to see it all unfold and her analysis of Amber. I have taken the MMPi2 3 times to be cleared to work/carry firearms. There's no way to "cheat" or sway these evaluations. If your goal is to "prove" something of your merit/personality or even fake something negatively it will flag and show. It isn't about "accuracy" as so much "discrepancies". This whole case has taken a turn as in a complete back fire on Amber.
Lol yup
@@aznsenzation9825 : I have taken that test
twice but I have never
had a clue how the
results are scored
Yeah... great scientist, great teacher it seems, she enjoyed it You can see that clearly. xD
This is a HUGE testimony for this case. There is no way the jury can overlook this sort of expert insight into Amber's mental health. Seems this case is leaning more in our favor everyday. Good luck Johnny!
Yes! You got his Johnny! I’m Rooting for him💕💕💕
Sadly "expert" doesn't mean anything. He hired her, and if Heard did the same thing, another "expert" would swear she's the most stable person we've ever seen :D
It's just one testimony, and certainly not an independent one.
In our favor? He’s not your F..ing father, he’s a millionaire celebrity who doesn’t even know you exist, you people need to stop worshiping them😹
I'm leaning towards Johnny big time but not gonna decide anything til the whole case is over.
Time stamp pls?
I'm not a native english speaker, I've never studied psychology and yet I understand every concept dr Curry is describing. She's amazing.
Having forty years as a mental health professional, I can say this psychologist is very smart and well prepared. One of the best I’ve seen. Not only correct descriptions but excellent ability to describe terms and processes in understandable terms. The kind of examination of materials, interviews, testing etc. represents hours of concentrated work and very careful consideration. She’s done a thorough great job.
I just want to make sure I say that I really hope this doesn’t contribute any more to the stigma against BPD people in your industry, and I hope you guys are doing a lot of real work to stomp it out💞
Does the fact that she's not board-certified in any way undermine her credibility as an expert? Regardless, I agree that she is an unusually good communicator.
@@randyevermore9323 Board-certification applies more to psychiatrists than psychologists, which means she needs to be an M.D. or any other doctoral degree to be board certified.
She is a clinical psychologist and that means, by definition that she is not and can not be board-certified without a doctoral degree. I have not checked her educational background but even if she does have a doctoral degree she needs to apply for board-certification and pass the exams. Basically it is just an exam.
Essentially they are trying to discredit her in any way possible.
How Old r u, 70??
@@mirabelarmstrong433 100% agree. For too long bpd was the worst thing in life.
Dr. Curry you would never be able to fully realise how many people you’ve validated and saved through this testimony.
God bless her !
@@stevenmcsteven6693 Uniqueness isn’t always a great thing. If that’s the only thing you took out from the comment then lmfao back !
Yes, men can also carry these traits but this is a huge win for men across the country. I'm calling her office immediately.
@@stevenmcsteven6693 lmfao ... Her name is Shannon Curry ... concerning her title you can call her Dr. Shannon Curry ... You can call her Dr. Curry ... you can her Doc ... calling her Dr. Shannon is not the protocol in the USA ...
@@stevenmcsteven6693 Because when addressing someone formally or respectfully in the United States, as in a doctor for example, we refer to them by their last name. Especially when it's someone we don't know personally and/or have a close relationship with. So wtf are you talking about?
This woman is the most intelligent and straight-forward person I've heard to speak in this case yet. I feel smarter just by listening.
Fact!
She’s just a psychologist. Not necessarily smarter than the other, it’s just literally her job to be able to communicate effectively with average people like you.
Long story short - not super intelligent, just amazing social skills and emotional intelligence
Amen! It taught me a lot.
@@done1961 one things for sure she’s way smarter than you.. to obtain a doctorate in clinical psychology and become accredited is no easy feat extremely extremely difficult. Always the ones that know least that seem to have the most to say lol
@@mpro9446 She is no doubt smart but she seems to be 100+ smarter in that current situation because she is facing against a bunch of idiots who objected their own freaking question and disrespected everyone in the room.
Can you imagine sitting in court, on camera , hearing yourself being dissected like this?
Watch Ms. Heard from about 25:20
That's how it feels to be dissected like that
I'd feel naked
I was thinking about that as well. How humiliating. You can see on her face how pissed she is
Ikr🤧
She will feel it then immediately deny it or blame someone else.
100% professional. As a mental health therapist it makes me proud of how well she is representing the mental health community ❤️
You just wanted to brag
Are you kidding?
@@yeshalloween I can agree that is your perception
@@MelissaMisinco not here for debates. Everyone of us are entitled to our opinions. Some are Evidence Based.
@@AO-MH Is there any way of getting in touch with you? I'm searching for therapist but can't find any good ones who after hour of talking won't say that I have problems with anger management or giving me some kind of tests to determine if I have depression.
It's fascinating how this woman went from being factual and rigid to alive and excited, she really CARES about her work. It's incredible. We need more like her.
This *woman* . One woman, not multiple women.
Nope
@@sarahwaters8262 chill out. It’s just a typo.
Also need to protect her at all cost... Because she knows what she is talking about....
Hm... Firstly, it's woman, not "women". Your comment seems sarcastic because you capitalised CARE and used "fascinating" to describe her change of tone. Are you hinting that she's biased against Amber Heard?
OMG, she is describing Amber word for word. Just exactly how Johnny tried to do. I had to come back to this after Ambers testimony and wow is this totally accurate
Yesss! She did a great job of breaking it all down! 👏🏽👏🏽👏🏽
Dude, especially the leaving. There is a recording where he is like begging to leave, to just have a break and come back and she won’t let it happen
OMG do you think it might be because Depp hired her? LMFAO.
She describes every abusive narcissist. My ex was just like that
Yes she has all the traits of an abuser. I don't know if JD does or not - but since we know Amber is abusive, a lot of his verbal abuse and rage towards her may be nothing more than the normal lashing out of a victim who's realizing how bad they've been treated.
When she started talking about emotional reactivity and how people suffering from BPD have a tendency to get physical to stop people from leaving because they fear abandonment is absolutely mind baffling me. Amber's statements make so much more sense with Dr. Curry's input. What a wonderful woman, I could listen to her for hours.
This is a sham trial. No judge in their right mind would allow such testimony in court. It's a completely subjective analysis by practitioner of pseudoscience.
Amber reminds me of my kids mother. Same thing a bully who never can admit she is wrong. Will do mental gymnastics to paint herself in a good light. Always thinking of herself
@@scottinnh88 Is the comment section where you can go to get your manhood back? How about you act like a man and stop cowering to women? It's not hard, just tell them no and walk away.
@@scottinnh88 Thank you for sharing. It's always so hard to deal with those kinds of people - my mother is also sharing some of those traits. She always tries to make it seem like she is such a good person when she is really not, the issue with her is that she can't really distinguish that what she's doing is wrong since she has nothing bad or hurtful in mind. It's basically the polar opposite with the same end results.
@I. C. What? HOw is it easy to tell the love of your life to leave? Are you a clinically diagnosed sociopath?
I need her to explain every single disorder so we can all understand ourselves and people around us lol. So helpful!
This, God please 🙏 be a Dummies guide to life I could sure use
I recommend going to therapy! That, or study psychology. I do both. ;)
Its great to have such people as teachers but they have so much going on in their research driven mind that they take up jobs as practitioners and scientists. That is unfortunate but nothing can be done about it. They have the best sense of explanation of any topic. God Gifted i say.
Oh, no thanks....the world would be a dreadfully boring place if we understood everything about the people we interact with...
Except,she is focusing only on the traits that Amber has. Bpd is not synonymous with violence against others, many only self harm.
This woman is so captivating and oozes such amazing confidence but yet doesn’t come off as conceited. I would love to have a fraction of her intelligence and confidence.
Shes also a smoke show, damn
@@Bspired No offense to her evidently impressive intelligence and admirable professional experience, but damn shes also very easy on the eyes. Wifey material 100%
@chantelle Sadly she actually thinks the MMPI is a legitimate analytic tool.
Or she just gets paid well to say that...
The only thing stopping you is you
This woman makes me proud to be a psychotherapist. Her professionalism and her presentation were perfect!
I am a lawyer but it is lamentable that I cannot say the same for AH's lawyer however his name is perfect for him.
@@empressnannah3830 His name is perfect for him but yours isn't
İt's better than being a psychorapist
She’s very well spoken, intelligent and has something that draws her in. Attractive physically in a down to earth manner too.
Her beauty with intelligence is really attractive.
Amber Heard takes the stand and displays all the characteristics and behaviour that this witness is describing. She literally proves her diagnosis.
If she is sick then it's not her fault. She needs a shrink not a husband. Does it mean they can't charge her because she's insane?
Yep
...and just now she comes out and admits that she still *loves* Johnny. While still clinging to her story and playing woe-is-me. Amazing.
20 years from now, her picture will be in every textbook and dictionary next to the phrase "Borderline Personality Disorder." I kinda feel bad for all the BPD sufferers out there who aren't criminal psychos.
This woman should be a teacher. She's a pleasure to listen to and learn from. Beautiful work!
I was just thinking how much I would enjoy taking a class from her!
Bet she's a pleasure elsewhere too 😜
She is not board certified and she has been bought by JDs legal team … wake up.
@@kellysmith1934 objection, hearsay!
Curry just gave a superficial gloss of Borderline and Histrionic personality disorder with no specific fact checked evidence of individual occurrences where Amber is concerned.
I am a single father who lived every word and detail of a borderline partner with a child involved..... My son's mother never could accept the reality that she had anything wrong or any problem because she was just that good at hiding it to others. It is truly amazing that this testimony depicts even the ability to hide it so well. For the first 4 years of my son's life I endured every detail of the rage and behavior described here. I documented the behavior for almost 2 years only to have the court system mediator try to say that I also was mentally ill also. The court system was so broken that she had communicated with the social worker who was assigned to us prior to any meetings and filled her head with lies about me (including false accusations of sexual abuse to my own son) when they were not even supposed to be communicating. It was a literally an art form of how well she maintained looking like she was a victim.
Any abuse I took from her behavior was all in my own home until I could finally evict her(with one month notice) from it, this made her go ballistic, damaging my car and throwing food at me. I went through four different attorneys before finally ending up with two women that were like angels sent from heaven. One of them specialized in women with borderline personality disorder (Irene renillo) in the other one was a judge (Denise rini). They immediately understood the severity of the situation and acted faster than anyone else I had gone to. Before even getting in front of a judge they were able to get me residential custody of my son. Want to see a grown man cry? I did that day knowing it was finally over.
Even listening to this testimony I was still educated more on border lines.even though surreal and brought back terrible memories of this painful awful time in my life trying to protect my own son.
For any other men out there that are stuck in this situation the longer you stick around the worse it gets. For the sake of your children please seek the legal help you need....
I agree with you completely. It happens to both men and women. Thank goodness you could protect your child.
You saved your sons mental and physical health. You're a true hero to him.
Sending you and your son an immense amount of love. 𝗛𝗨𝗚𝗘 spirit hug to you both. As someone who was the daughter of a father who fought for me through divorce and molestation from my moms boyfriend… I can tell you you’re efforts are not unnoticed. Just as those two wise and intelligent women saw, the manipulation will not stand. Stay strong for your your son, you’re a greater roll model than you think and you deserve every ounce of recognition for that. Truly 🙏
As someone with borderline personality disorder, I am so sorry that happened to you.
Wow! My hats off to you, thanks for sharing your story
I am a mental health professional and have issued the very test this clinician described on multiple occasions. She did a fantastic job explaining Amber Heard's disorder(s) and is helping to educate the public. I would be remiss if I did not also add that people suffering from personality disorders can, and often do NOT abuse others if they seek help and choose not to act on their impulses.
My now ex friend, is a great friend when on her meds, but when she stops taking them, she becomes so narcissistic.
And I decided that I didn't want to be her punching bag again.
She's also schizophrenic.
What is the name of this testing, if you don't mind?
You are right I have BPD and there are various levels of this disorder but I do not go around abusing the people that I love and whether you’re on medication or not choices are still made I also suffer from bipolar disorder and anxiety disorder and you have to be able to first and foremost take responsibility for your own actions and your own words where things escalate is when a person is a narcissist and blames others for their actions and their words which is very clear in this case with the way that Amber treats Johnny. It’s very sad actually and one of the things I wanna mention is that for a person with severe BPD they are very well aware of what they are doing and saying they just don’t care
@@JodiPatriceShaw I totally agree with you. Well said!
@@JodiPatriceShaw same for me with my BPD and Co-occurring anxiety and depression - never once have I ever abused in any way or lashed out at my partner or any loved ones the way Amber and other BPD folk may CHOOSE to. And that's with me having had that as a child also. You don't treat those you love and care about like that, very wrong and completely inexcusable. One shoe definitely does not fit all like people assume.
I'm studying to become a psychologist. Not gonna lie, I've been slacking in learning my material...Kind of "Learn and forget after a test." But watching this. I realized I need to get my crap together and actually solidify all the materials and master it. Thank you for the inspiration Doctor.
That’s a whole mood
Good self-analysis. Now: get your act together and JUST DO IT !
Best of luck !
Please do and take it seriously. My daughter freshman year just ended and she’s studying the same and has slacked off. Nothing better than to see the absolute best in your future field to kick your ass than something like this. I’m sure you’ll be amazing. Best of luck.
Holy crap she literally just described what everyone heard on the audio tapes. Amber saying it is “killing her” when he leaves in the middle of an argument. Johnny describing having to physically restrain her to get by her when she cornered him from room to room throughout the house. The initiating violence as a means to express this rage and then using resulting minor injuries from her own aggressive behavior as a weapon against Johnny to punish him for making her feel that way. Absolutely crazy how much this hits the nail on the head!
right?! this is NUTS how scary accurate it is. 😬
Right, like her using the fact that her foot got caught in between the door when she was trying to force her way into the bathroom he was hiding in.
Omg totally makes sense. How she always complains that he is abandoning arguements midway and how she runs after him like an angry child would to a parent and bangs at his door. While Johnny is trying to cope and calm down so things don't escalate, she on the other hand doesn't make an effort to stop herself and is overcome by emotions that lead to these escalations.
Exactly what I was thinking.
And how she dresses like him at court
I've never seen this woman before, but she was amazing in her presentation. So clear, so precise and concise. This was almost a lecture for everyone, as well as a deposition.
I felt that too ☺️✌️
Ex bond-girl** don’t forget
Agree. She is a terrific teacher and speaker.
Not to be a dick but this is direct testimony, answering questions posed by the party that called the witness.
Deposition testimony is taken out of court usually at the request of the opposing party.
Maybe she'll start her own UA-cam channel. 🤔
she's like one of those women out of a crime book. professional. calm. intelligent. good at what she does. likeable character. imagine picking her brain for a whole day.
She gives me Dr linda from lucifer vibes
@@boomshakalaka9470 exactly what I was just thinking 😂
@@boomshakalaka9470 well played. I can see that.
Nah, I wouldn't want to. She'd probably know me better than I know myself within hours. I don't trust like that lol
And so pritty too😜
She did a great job describing the struggles of BPD and how it impacts loved ones without demonizing the disorder.
So impressed with this pychologist's ability to explain, in layman's terms, the ins and outs of personality disorders, to the point of using relative situations to illustrate how that plays out in relationships, situations, and circumstances. I'd take a course (or ten) from this doctor anyday! She summed up and backed up the entire scenario of these situations with Johnny and Amber by explaining borderline personality disorder succintly and how it plays out in real life. THIS is a professional doctor and witness, unlike the other psycholgoist who sounded like a defensive, biased unprofessional. Bravo!
if you can't explain something in its simplest form you don't understand it well enough, she knows her stuff like!!
Now compare that to the other psychiatrist and you'll see the night and day difference between a professional and a "professional", this statement is completely factual and based on evidence meanwhile the other testimony dodges talking about the actual tests administered, she lazily checks the boxes and half assedly fills out the forms, shorthands everything in her own 'style', and does nothing but refer to the victim as 'she' and the perpetrator as 'he' the entire time in a completely hypothetical scenario. All those words saying "he is the aggressor and she is the poor innocent victim who only lashes out in retaliation", all that based on hearsay and 90% of the garbage spewed out of her mouth started with "well amber told me this".
Not once did Dr. Curry state even an ounce of hearsay and she gladly explained every little detail and then some about how her tests worked and how reliable they are when asked. The other 'therapist'' did nothing but bash a fellow practitioner in an attempt to discredit her but she also stated lies and misrepresented data the entire time, completely unwilling to discuss any test results even when being interrogated by the lawyers. Honestly, curry could go on for hours with interesting, factual, and relevant data and no one would even get the least bit bored meanwhile it was clear half the court tuned out 5 minutes into the other testimony and just like Dr. Curry predicted that buffoon said exactly what was foreseen, not a single fact uttered the entire time besides "Johnny does drugs" and also comedically the exact test Curry brought up; the one she proved that amber manipulated and purposefully fudged in an attempt to minimize her disorder...
If that doesn't prove her credibility and lack thereof for the other psychiatrist then I don't know what would, she predicted the future by saying "here's the only test results the other 'expert' is going to bring up and here's how it's false and inaccurately filled in", and sure enough, what does she do? Brings up that exact test and jumps straight to hearsay and completely dodges anything and everything about the results... That lady needs to be disbarred and the "50 cases" that she testified on need to be reviewed and she needs jail time for the blatant sexism and abuse of the system she's shown in the court room. Curry ought to seek a defamation suit against her while we're at it, how has her blatant disregard for the tests and her obviously clouded and biased judgement made it this far without being caught or punished in the slightest???
I was thinking along the same lines. Very professional, very knowledgeable, and makes it easy for the lay person.
Yeah, everything she said was so digestible.
I think borderline personality disorder has to come from CEN (Childhood emotional neglect). The parent basically teaches the child to ignore their inner feelings and conform to a certain image of “good behavior” to impress others, and not to be themselves. The child does not develop a sense of self, because they may believe it is selfish and sinful to focus on self and not others. Their identity is focused on pleasing others, and that gets exhausting. I don’t have borderline because I don’t hurt others, but I relate to some of the descriptions this lady was talking about, about the person confirming to what others expect, and great fear of rejection. Imagine putting in a ton of energy to make people like you, and then they still don’t; that can be very disturbing. I remember as a child, we were taught that it was selfish to focus on yourself, and to ignore our feelings and put on a facade of a certain image at church. I grew up with no sense of self and just mimicked others so they would like me, so I wouldn’t get rejected. 🤔 I have put great effort trying to build a sense of self separate from that over the years, because I knew it wasn’t a sustainable way to exist. But I can actually relate to this mindset. 😳
The fact that everyone in that room, including amber’s lawyers, remain completely silent when this Dr. is speaking is testament to how captivating she is when she speaks. I could listen to her teach about psychology for as long as she’s willing to talk because she just grabs my attention and doesn’t let go. What a powerhouse of a woman
You ought to listen to Jewels of Thought here on UA-cam. She is a Phd psychologist and covers this trial and other trials from the psychological point of view!
You have to wonder if Ms Heard's attorneys are setting up for a mental incapacity defense when all else fails. I cannot understand why they kept silent throughout this slam-dunk testimony. I realize that the witness is compelling and difficult to refute, but lawyers are supposed to be smart cookies too.
Maybe because they're in court....jeez people are so cringe
@@bigbirdmusic8199 go look at the rest of the case and find me a clip where the defence lawyers let anyone speak for this long without objecting lol
She's smart , hasn't let Amber's team trick her up even after trying to discredit by not being board certified, she's very attractive , intelligent and has a voice for speaking
I have almost 3 decades working in mental health and found this testimony enlightening. What an ideal witness to have explain the issues so clearly.
She's brilliant. Perfect expert witness. I fully support Johnny's case, but this Dr. helped me realize some empathy for Amber.
PS: Thank you for what you do.
@@notyrmom5698 You're welcome. It's what I did up until recently.
I thought she did an excellent job too. It's difficult to explain these types of things w simple answers
She is a rare one, with the heart and the smarts. Unfortunately, most psychs are only a little above average smarts; poor acuity of mental vision and hence poor ability to crisply define terms and to further describe and explain in clear pictorial language with examples. The industry needs more like her.
i have bpd and she explained this so beautifully and articulately, just described the symptoms without any judgement words whatsoever, she managed to explain the hardest parts of the disorder without making me feel any shame around things that are actually really toxic, she's awesome
take care dear!
Dr. Shannon Curry = Impressive speaker, confident person
Luckily we have ppl like her, bravo doctor Curry
Shes awesome, a true professional
And a total smokeshow.
@@russelllangworthy8855 Whats a smokeshow?
She’s on Johnny’s side right?
Before Dr. Curry got told to move on at 8:46 I legit forgot this was a testimony and not a lecture. Her passion for her work in psychology is absolutely inspiring.
Me too, I just want to listen to her talk for hours
@@moonfish4841 and watch
Same
@@bliztix2 ok clown 🤣 we get it she’s the hot mom doctor type 😂
Ha ha… ok..🤣🤣
This woman is amazing. As someone who has worked in mental health for 18 years, I would LOVE to attend a continuing education course given by her. She was so well prepared for this and her delivery of the information is phenomenal.
Amen to that !!! The last one I went to was a bore, the speaker clearly didn't want to be there
Me too. She is absolute goals
Imagine being taught by her and Jordan Peterson!
I have histrionic personality disorder and she's taught me more about it than my doctors did LOL
Her business is about to go up!!
The difference between this psychologist and AH’s “psychologist” is astounding…. This lady has clear, concise evidence based on facts and evidence and only reaching conclusions from that evidence only. The other lady is nothing but hypotheticals and opinions rather than literally any facts at all and that should say everything
One is pretty, well taken care of, intelligent, has a good husband who gets muffins, doesn't let her feelings effect her opinion based on evidence, and facts... the other is not so pretty, not well taken care of, unhealthy, not so intelligent, very sexist, and bias, lets her emotions effect her opinion, ate her husband, and all the muffins.
@@ReadyPlayerTomVR Aye she's married to the Muffin Man. She's also kinda sorta hot when she puts her cheeky librarian glasses on. "Your books are overdue Mr Tom, 24 HOURS OVERDUE"
@@Thoughtland lol Oh god please stop. I wouldn't touch karen, I mean dr. Hughes. Can't control her emotions sitting in a courtroom, getting angry to be called Dr. Curry lol meanwhile she's a psychologist, calm down sweet heart lol.
@@ReadyPlayerTomVR She's looking at you Tom. She's looking at you over the rim of her spectacles and clicking her pen vigorously.
@@Thoughtland (screams internally)
I love that she addresses the jury while answering questions. They are the ones that will determine who is telling the truth, and who is lying. Excellent witness for JD!
So true because she's a psychologist and appreciates how the human mind functions; people want respect.
Quite possibly the best witness in the trial so far
@@Karizmatyc I couldn’t agree more!
@@ribeninua2874 Indeed!
This psychologist is sharp! She is an outstanding witness and speaks clearly and concisely in a manner that anyone can comprehend. I had a Mother with borderline personality disorder along with many other disorders and this testimony is spot on and clearly describes the disorders as well as the persons behavior attached to it. Thank god for this Psychologist and her wealth of information and intellect.
yeah, she begins every second sentence with "so"
Take a shot whenever she begins a sentence with "so".
I had a grilfriend with BPD, no offense to your mother, but that most have been incredibly difficult to deal with. I have never been more confused, broken hearted, and well in pain more than I was in that relationship and the subsequent break up. I'm not sure what it was like with your mother, but the way the can make you feel like the most special and also worst person in the world is very confusing.
She described Johnny depp more than amber based off her definitions. She’s just a pickme and Johnny depp wouldn’t chose her. He would just be with amber again
@@gw9363 I had a girlfriend with a bi-sexual disorder. So there!
We all should appreciate this trial taking place. It’s going to make history and hopefully bring more awareness to these personality disorders and the potential victims.
I have so much respect for Johnny depp and what he has done to show the world as i have gone through it and currently still do having a child with my ex.
i don’t love the way you phrased this. it’s not her fault she has personality disorders. it’s likely a result of trauma. people with personality disorders can better themselves. they shouldn’t be feared or viewed as monsters.
@@oliviastilley2838 check out the other part (with her lawyer) those two mentioned are non trauma based
@@oliviastilley2838 well yes but you should view monsters as monsters? There can be understanding for people who suffer from mental illnesses but it’s should NEVER be an excuse for the disgusting behaviour that Amber Heard has shown. There’s a line
Personality disorder doesn't cause you to violently harm someone you claim to love!! A Narcissistic person is very abusive physically & mentally!! How are they missing her Narcissistic traits??
I've never listened to a psychologist and wanted them to tell me everything about myself. She's clearly knowledgeable professional but also really relatable and scientific in explaining her judgements.
Plus she's gorgeous without playing on it and her voice is really easy to listen to. I could listen to her lecture all day. I reckon a person could learn a lot from her.
So basically she is an angel 😇
If Johnny does not win this trial I am done with this country
betta head up to Canada, the beautiful Amber will be walking out of there with a big bag of Jack sparrows loot !
@@petersmith8968 highly doubt that
@@petersmith8968 si perp odiada por mucha gente 😅
OJ Simpson killed 2 people and walked away free.
Are you kidding?
Of course he can lose.
😅that is a lot
I love how this went from being a court room testimony to a college lesson in psychology 👏
that's p;retty much what proffessional testimonies are about, educating the jury properly to judge the trial.
College lesson? Sorry brother but they don't teach this in college. this woman is on a whole different level. No politics, no ideologies, just raw facts. College Psych Professors can learn from her. I know I did.
Not just that 101 level course either. She starts at freshman and keeps you on until you are at graduate level stuff!
I feel like she somehow described some of my own traits, now I'm getting worried.
She’s good. Speaks to the jury, doesn’t speak at them, states things in an easy way for the jury to understand, and presents herself as being very pleasant.
c'mon She definitely cant be having those issues she identifies and helps resolve 😂
Though this space of study where they label actions as disorders, needs to be consumed with caution
It's not Johnny Depp's fault that Amber Heard has borderline personality disorder nor is he a therapist that he can fix her but the judge has to see that just because she has the personality disorder does not give her the right to destroy someone's else's whole life. She needs to get help that's the bottom line
Yes but also be held accountable for what she has done to Johnny!
@@unexpected8166 This is a problem with how we as people judge other people. Jonny Depp needs his good reputation back and after that it would be best for all to practice ourselves in forgiveness.
I don't think she will get a lenient judgement because she previously made fun of Johnny's medical conditions and also he was not excused by having his problem.
She shouldn’t be in a relationship without help
YES! I think the next thing her team will do, is try to say OK you're right, she is this way... but it's not her fault, and she shouldn't be held culpable for her actions, because she needs help! I'd bet money on it! Just wait, they are desperate and will try anything at this point! I think they will also decide to not put her on the stand!! I hope Johnny's team gets to grill her and she shows her true colors!!!
As a Psychologist myself, I am proud of how she handled this, you can't play mind games with a psychologist, like this lawyer tried to do, most respected psychologist hold a PhD which is equivalent to a Lawyers JD
psychologists like you and her are so very smug and condescending. It's sad!
@@cameronkrause4712 ah, intimidated by confidence I see. Sad.
@@cameronkrause4712 smug??? did you hear AHs lawyer in this examination?? 👂 she was rude asf and tried to twist words the entire time
@@cameronkrause4712 It's psychiatrist*
@@Kidzwolf101 That is thier job. No better way to test a psychiatrist. It was a good battle of wits.
This doctor is absolutely brilliant and clearly did all of the right protocols!!!
Did you see Ambers face when the doctors said manipulation ?? 2:33
@@daniandi487 itbwasntbworrybor distress of hearing aomeoname describe uyou possibly having aa mentally illness with abusivebsyptoms and if you're the victim be upset people may avoid you. She rolled her eyes and belittled body language also with this lyer attitude. So you responded with arrogance. You mean I n a narcissistic and attitude your are right and she is lying? Just what for the Look what you made me do testimony. This doctor just gave the jury the rule book or how the trick works she will not be able to manipulate her testimony as noe people will see the mental illness at work I anticipate she will what aboutism regarding irrelevant past abuses or details to paint a victim narrative and it won't make sense or clearly look intended and said with a intent to deflect manner. It's what the real nasty ones who can't see they are ill. The ones who just give trauma and born with this. No remorse no guilt jut self survival justification for Their actions. I have been on the brutal end of this growing up. They control the world and it'd perception while the feed and abuse thei weapomized illness and ofte they do it in plain sight. Many of the real bad o es have many marriages or relation ships.she had alot of ones that ended quick was that her prey that got away? She sued Doug Stanhope for defamation and threatened is lively hood and futuree with her clout and financial power when he said hid friend was in trouble a while ago. It's starting to look clear he was abusing substandnce to cope like a majority of like victims. He talks with a deflated and apathetic tone with humor and sarcasmnto deflect and deal with the pain and trauma like majority victims. He mentioned public opinion and why he was fighting her legally sounding like his integrity and lively hold of his reputation while loosung his work and passions or taken from him. I am sensing this focus of he wanting to take her power if he is able to put doubt into public opinion he is exposing her now. Both of them are done but he unlike most victims don't get that. And live with their abuser and there damage the rest of their lives. Sad to see all this. Either way it's just a little filled with abuse and destruction. Destroying both lives.
Any therapist that gets interviewed for a job by going over the guy's house and getting wine and dined and doesn't think that's bizarre sounds like those actresses that go to Weinstein's house to get a part in a movie. It all sounds pretty sinister and sleazy to me
@@kayray1111 EXACTLY!! And, so uh, she summed this all up through her little online exam with AH??!..🤔🤔🤔
@@kayray1111 does that extend to male therapists also?
She seems so passionate about her job and explains everything so perfectly and without bias, truly amazing.
22 years as a psych nurse This lady knows her stuff big time !!! and nailed this disturbed individual perfectley AMAZING STUFF So refreshing to hear someone intelligent in this circus
She's very good. I can't help but to realize her descriptions of Amber's disorders are a perfect portrayal of the leftist mind
It's also interesting to note that, if you're someone who's been looking at this case and how AH behaves, or let's her facial expressions wander, you can see how defeated she looks as the doctors talks about these issues - she went from being pissed at one point and intensively writing, to now just looking tired and worn. I think this is the most natural I've seen her look the entire time.
I'm concerned how far they are going to push AH. Only in that BPD or straight bi- polar dx has a high rate of self harm and suicide. I mean, I understand that JD is innocent. I think everyone understands that at this point.
Are ppl happy to see her jump off a bldg here? They hate her this much? Is there any point where the jury can get the point without humiliating her to the point of provocation? I wonder how it will play out.
It's wd be like bullying a mentally ill kid then being shocked when they hang themselves. 🙄
@@tonyploma2330 Really? I’d say it’s closer to Donald Trump. Heard is BPD, Trump is a malignant NPD, but they’re in the same general group of disorders. And would you mind keeping your politics to yourself?
@@tonyploma2330 to politicize this is an absolute ignorant/arrogant/blind disrespect about what mental health entails.
Just the fact that you "othered" and put the "left" into a mental health illness category, actually says a lot more about you, than the left at all.
It shows your mind is trapped in simplistic cognitive functions...such as confirmation bias, cognitive distortions, limiting beliefs. To demonize a side that you don't understand, and feel threatened by, shows low emotional intelligence. Interestingly, in most mental conditions...those people have very low emotional intelligence.
While pointing fingers, looking outside yourself, for the causes of all ills...maybe take a look at your own deep rooted wounding and beliefs.
Look into how fundamental attribution error plays a role in your ability to excuse yourself, give yourself grace...while vilifying others for their behaviors. Try on introspection and metacognition for size.
People on the extreme left AND right, are more likely to have mental issues. Why? Because of what causes extremism...causes more blindness to more, the farther either side one goes. The more moderate, open, types, are actually generally the most mentally well.
She just transfixed everyone in the courtroom with her knowledge. My hat’s off to her.
Case closed, basically.!!
Literally
This psychologist is so on-point with her clear explanations. These are complex topics to summarize and explain but she did an excellent job.
She basically described a psycho 😂
I agree! So much of the behaviors she explained based on the results of MMPI were behaviors Johnny spoke of in his testimony, like how she got so upset when he broke her routine of taking his shoes off and getting the glass of wine himself. Something most of us wouldn't be bothered by.
She's a genius by today's standards imo
I totally agree! Unfortunately, I had to live through these experiences that she is describing. It was a very traumatizing education. Hard to spot when you're in the middle of it. But once you start to connect the dots, it becomes crystal clear. The challenge then becomes ...how to get out. Hardest lesson I ever had to learn!
SMART TO NOT PERSONALIZT THE mental illness to Her she spoke directly about the symptoms and typical details of how it affects those who do functim with it. Feels like she just gave the jury the play book to apply to the prior testimony and marinate for days as the doors and clarity of everything makes to much a clear answer. Also if she testifies the doc gave the info on how th magic trick work thus delivering the misdirection and ah of the Magician. Her testimony of she is the victim is gonna start to not work and the narrative and control someone who abuses by manipulation may just start to show with her. She didn't act upset that the doc is insinuating she is a danger and mentally ill. She acted sissmissice and rolled her eyes. There hasn't been any sense of personal self awarness of having sickness our done anything wrong and is feeling almost like look what you made me do. I'm no genius but many past boy friends bolted quickly and their are many. Are they prey that got away? Just sayin
She's fantastic. She needs to have a channel describing psychological issues.
She is great at articulating her findings as a whole and not and not as an individual assessment, truly a professional in the field
Almost like she has a doctorate right ….
@@The_truth_is_in_the_dream Just because someone has a doctorate degree doesn't equate being capable of verbally communicating their intelligence as an genuinely well human being.
@@anar3602 I would disagree with you.
i think u expect women to not be so "well spoken"
@@leahmeriwether2995 Wut?
As a fellow Forensic Psychologist, I'm so glad to see people see what the profession is all about. Dr. Curry is presenting the data exactly as she should - the testing does not PROVE anything except that her scores are similar to that of others who also have these traits. And she's masterfully staying out of the pitfalls the defense keeps trying to trap her in. Although that said, the defense is just astoundingly bad. I can't help but think that any decent attorney met with Ms. Heard and said "nope."
LoL 🤣😂 totally agree with you about decent attorneys rejecting Heard.
Summed up Amber perfectly! 👏🏻👏🏻 At last the truth comes out.
@@SK-su3pt She purposefully left out a couple of diagnoses. Had she not been in a courtroom, she would have mentioned ASPD and NPD.
Agreed. You know, I have been thinking, this is bottom of the barrel legal team for amber, I think she pocketed most of the money and they are working this case for that 100M payout. They really are that bad.
Way to be unbiased SIR. As if you knew all the facts to the case…but you don’t only what the media tells y’all. Shame on you.
Oh my God, this woman is so good. What an enlightening and educative session.
Exactly what I was thinking
Ditto. Include an explanation on correlation
Yes she's brilliant and beautiful
Hmm Mabye before I get married to a woman I should go to a Psychologist first lol ( doctor is the calm or sick in her head before marry her ) we all know the saying don’t stick dick in crazy
@@bud9269 honestly am enlightened
She has been spot on with her diagnosis of Amber. We've seen her behavior play out throughout this trial so far. It makes sense to me now why Amber looks directly to the jury when she's talking, because when Dr. Curry was explaining her diagnosis to the jury she was looking at them and actually engaging with them where as Amber is mimicking Dr. Curry and attempting to do the same. Dr. Curry definitely knows what she talking about, plus I've been thoroughly engaged while she's explaining her diagnosis of Amber. Dr.Curry has had my full attention throughout this entire video with her way of explaining Amber's mental disorders. If she had her own show I would definitely watch it.
I noticed that too! She’s definitely trying to emulate Dr. Curry. But it comes off as condescending and unnatural.
@@QueenKunta exactly. I 100% agree with you.
you dont know what is spot on unless you've met Amber or are a psychologist.
@@orangewarm1 and how would you know what I know? Have you met me, or are you a psychologist? You made your own assumption redundant according to your own logic!
@@leeannsampson6050 yess biss you’re a god for that it made me giggle a bit too
I love the passion that radiates from this lady as she nerds out. Could listen all day
Your nick name and comment put a smile on my face. 🤭
She looks so happy knowing she knows what she's talking about unlike AH's lawyers.
Same here. She is so confident and just runs rings around the defense.
It's a nice opportunity to nerd out about a topic you've that you've studied extensively to a group of people who will listen.
@@goliathtigerfishes well not only that mental health is way bigger then it is now and huge then it was way back then it's now being proven how mental health is real back then people didn't want to believe it or they just shunned it out
As hard as this has been, and still is for Johnny, he has done this world a favor that no amount of money could buy! Bless you Johnny. It took a massive amount of courage for him to ask for this to be filmed and shown around the world. He knew his life would be exposed to the core. He has educated the world. Let us see who uses this knowledge to help and save lives. You are so loved and admired Johnny! 💗💞💗
Well said
What you say it's totally true.
I can see why AH didn’t want this televised! It shows her for what she truly is,
something she certainly doesn’t want happening! I feel for any lawyers firm who would have to defend her, if she ever comes before the courts again, which I’m sure she will!
Beautifully said! ♥️
AMEN💯
As a retired heath professional who worked with domestic abuse, what Johnny Depp has brought to everyone's attention at great emotional cost to himself is the complexity of male abuse. Thank you Johnny.
Indeed
Millions of men have endured these behaviours over decades.
It’s taken a Hollywood celebrity marriage breakup, suing one another, to demonstrate the utter contempt the So-called Justice System has for men who’re abused by their psychotic partners.
How do these women get diagnosed with their illnesses, if the Police Believe their Lies, and arrest and jail the mentality and physically beaten man?
To say there’re “No Winners” here, is an understatement of biblical proportions.
yup but nobody cares about this, in fact, it's laughed about.
Same here. I have worked with many couples where the female is the main abuser. It is so unfortunate that such women often have nowhere to obtain help because when they tell a female therapist what they are doing, the therapist often minimises, excuses or justifies the woman's behaviour and shifts the blame to the man, and so the woman receives no help and sometime even receives reinforcement of her condition. And men are mostly disbelieved. I find my own colleagues and the wider counselling industry culture to be disappointing. We need to wake up to the fact that men and women are pretty close to equal in abusing each other, and in many if not most cases -- not all cases -- the abusive relationship is a mutual dynamic which both are contributing to in some way, actively or passively, or both.
@@JBplumbing12 Islam fixes all of these issues.
This doctor's testimony will devastate the defense - and rightly so. She's so articulate and correct. You can tell she's no BS'r!
I think she's made me realise why i've been following this case so much and why I even care. My sister has this disorder, she put me through hell as teens and it just hits home so much all the stuff this woman has said.
this case is bringing this topic to the surface for so many, making it a public discussion which is great!
Amber is actually doing a great service for the public haha
@@mstrikesback168 Yeah, nobody really wanted another Pirates of the Carribean lol. It was getting a little stale tbh
My therapist and I worked together for years to figure out that my sister and mom were so toxic and dangerous for my and my family’s life, well-being-mental, emotional, and physical. It was so painful to go no contact and cut them out of our lives, however, the positive impact this had on all our lives was noticeable within weeks.. I have BPD, C-PTSD, severe anxiety disorder, and major depression. Emotional regulation is possible IF YOU WORK AT IT! It requires a lot of self awareness and being able to be brutally honest with yourself and allow yourself to get constructive criticism from your closest loved ones that have your best interests at heart. My therapist has worked with my family and I as a whole, individually, in pairs… I am doing my damndest to make sure my children are getting their needs met, plus more, my husband and I have a healthy relationship, and so I can be the best mother, wife, and person possible. It’s hard but it’s worth it!
I think we all have experienced a little of what Amber did to Johnny and some have been on the other end and acted like Amber. It happens way more than others want to admit in toxic families or relationships
Sorry about it bro...
We just covered these disorders in my abnormal psychology class. Her explanation is much better and easier to understand than my textbook
One of the best courses I ever took!
Textbooks can be somewhat useless (for lack of a better word) depending on who writes it. You might be getting someone who knows the field, but can't articulate/explain it or someone who doesn't even know the field very well, but has nepotism/luck in their favor and get to write the book.
@@justsomeguywithagoatee8337 our course involved very little of the book. We had the DSM IV at the time for reference but at UGA the course was basically guest speakers who were leaders in that specific behavioral study and they would lecture us on each one for a few hours a week. They talked about some of their cases and research. It was awesome!
I just understood my mom in 29 mins , something I've been trying to do my whole life...used to think she just blatantly hates me because of something I unknowingly did, thank you
❤
I can only imagine how validated Johnny must feel listening to this, and having all his points against Heard 100% supported by a professional on a psychological level.
The quality of her testimony and crash course she gave to court aside, her immense patience of ''Do you recall'' torture in cross examination was gold.
Objection, hearsay
Objection, please stop talking so we don't lose this court case
@@jhenxou4721 Objection! Hearsay. She doesn't wear that type of sunblock! She's innocent!
Amber just looks like a special kind of crazy. Not that Johnny is anything special either. The way he blew thru most of his money is not the sign of someone who has it all under control.
@@trvman1 What are you even talking about uhhh objection hearsay!!!!!! Wait..............I'll object to that to your honor"......I......I.....I...I.......I'll allow it" objection!!!!! Judge: bruh....
As someone who suffers from Borderline Personality Disorder (BPD) while I can relate to Amber’s mental and emotional disorder, it isn’t an excuse to treat people like trash, if anything it is to become conscious of ourselves, take responsibility, and always striving to become better. Don’t let anyone mistreat you because of their disorder, it isn’t an excuse.
You sound really mature and self aware. Good on you for trying to evolve and I sincerely wish you all the best and a healthy year.
@@itsjustmaddisen Thank you, however it wasn’t always like this. I can admit that, initially, growing up I was much like Amber. I was very angry, I was verbally and emotionally abusive, I blamed everyone, accepted no responsibility, and pushed away people who genuinely loved and cared for me but couldn’t keep setting themselves on fire to keep me warm. It took me awhile to realize that I was the problem, and even longer to realize that it didn’t have to be that way. While yes we need more awareness about mental and emotional health, we also can’t enable people that they can do whatever and use their mental disorder as a crutch to mistreat others because it is a viscous cycle that will only repeat itself until we hold ourselves accountable for our behavior. Again, thank you for the kind words and have a wonderful day, I appreciate you reading and taking the time to leave a kind comment.
Elizabeth I also have BPD, and was exactly like you described. I couldn't have said these words better myself.
I tell everyone that I constantly have to keep myself in check, because if I don't I can "slip up" and my old self will emerge. It's very difficult and hard to deal with especially with all the sigmatism around BPD. it is awful not only for those who have been on the"wrath side" of our disorder but also for us.
Most my life it felt like I was in this deep fog with no clarity and scared, alone, etc. But then once I learned that I'm not mY BPD, can function normally and have normal emotions, and healthy boundaries it's like I woke up from that fog. It's like one day everything cleared up and I seen the world in a new light, like I had seen the sun for the first time.
@@amaliereign7673 Thank you for sharing your experience. I am curious to know if you don’t mind me asking, what helped you with your BPD?
@@professorapetty99 Beautifully said and very informative. Continue on your path to self realization and reflection. Ur doing great! ❤️
This lady just read AHs mail! She literally talked about everything she’s doing! The copying of a persons look, attention seeking, anger and vanity! Utilizing their looks, lying, manipulation, always needing to shift their narrative. Scary!!!
Amber is using every fiber of her being, all the skill she’s learned during her acting days to put on a brave face here in front of what could only be described as a humiliating experience. And she absolutely deserves it.
Don't you know it!!!! Well said!!😘
Yes and the more normal she tried to behave the more I was creeped out.
Couldn’t agree more.
@Bob Shingles
Same!
She's a psychotic. Sadly, a lot of psychos are actors because they learn to act emotions because they lack them. That's also why so many Hollywood relationships come to a crashing end or are short flings. They don't have any real emotions. They act. All the time. Heard is one of those people. Depp is a good guy, though he shows a few signs of the celeb life, he shows no signs of being psychotic.
Her explaining how people with this personality disorder go from idealising people to thinking as lowly as possible about them matches perfectly with Amber's testimony of how she had this perfect image of Johnny and then suddenly he was a monster. She continues to put nails in her own coffin.
wow i didnt even think of that, very interesting
The disease is pride
"I couldn't even see him anymore. It was no longer Johnny"
lmao you're right wtf...
Well to be fair abusers often do behave like perfect people and then do become monsters.. so that isn't the best indicator
I think after hearing this psychologist's analysis it's VERY CLEAR that Amber's allegations are fictionalised symptoms of her personality disorder, and she was simply driving Johnny absolutely freaking insane with her unpredictable and nonsensical behaviour.
The way this psychologist describes Amber is word for word the same behavior of my ex-gf. She would give herself bruises and black eyes whenever she was unhappy with me.. and constantly fabricated literally everything with me. It was impossible to see at first, until I'd already wasted a year with her
The question is if that leads to diminished capacity on her part.
@@tobitaktlos3241
That's what I've been wondering myself.
@@tobitaktlos3241 I believe so, in a part, but she still deserves punishment, other wise she will believe she did nothing wrong, and that her mental illness allows her to be able to be abusive. I have borderline personality disorder, and have a very difficult in relationships, as I always push people away, but make them feel like it’s their fault, trying to create a codependency, and a appearance of codependency on my part. I don’t allow myself relationships rn, as I am still sick and working on my mental illness. I guarantee you that Amber feels as if she isn’t guilty
Sounds like it
The moment I heard about Amber Heard I knew she has BPD. I have it and the things she does is highly relatable. People want to sugar coat it and say we arent actually trying to hurt people- stop the bull. If you hurt our feelings we will treat you as if you are our worst enemy. Soothe our feelings and we then idolize you. I loved all my exes but treated them terribly when they upset me and then denied it and try to justify my actions. Its until now where I actually got the help I need and realize when I am acting irrationally and what I can do to stop it and calm down.
Would you mind sharing with me what you do to stop an episode?
As a victim of an abuser who I suspect had BPD (he never went to therapy so it is not confirmed, though I am in uni for psych and as the years pass it only confirms this for me)
Thank you for admitting that even though you loved your partners, you treated them terribly and then denied it.
My ex would never admit that, and that is the part that really hurts so fricken much. To put a person through so much, and then just say you didn't at all!!
So, thank you for getting help, thank you for seeing errors in your past ways, and thank you for admitting those errors instead of hiding them in a little box in your mind.
she absolutely loves to educate people about her passion and its so captivating to watch
Not that I'm siding with Amber Heard, but this is as believable as a zodiac sign fortune. She's basing ALL of this on a questionnaire that exclusively allows true or false to be selected. The determination of a written personality test that allows 1 of only 2 inputs, is inherently incredibly subjective. With the right series of questions, you could determine anyone to be anything. If that is professional psychology, then that is pure non-sense. More likely it is judicial system influenced BS.
Her report is too damning though and that raises my eyebrows.
Bro I feel like I have all those problems and disorders that she is explaining 🥹
I agree. She's helping educate me more about my own bpd than any therapist/psychiatrists I've been to!
Men of culture unite
She’s literally describing her word for word and it’s crazy how this is barely being discusses. Mental health and disorders are tough to deal with
We don’t really have empathy for those with nasty personality disorders.
If a psychopath murders, do we give them leniency for their illness?
MAYBE Heard is dealing with something difficult, we can acknowledge it and learn from it for future, but a nasty person is a nasty person whether it’s from a disorder or not, and she is a nasty person that needs a learning experience.
She isn't a victim of what she does and is, Johnny is. He's the one who lost part of his finger, and dealt with all that she is.
@@he-mememan359 losing his finger is not even the main problem here...
@@done1961 Yes, my mother has been unapologetically nasty to me for years, to put it lightly and one of the only ways that I can feel sorry for her is that I wish her presumed Antisocial Personality Disorder wouldn't keep her from feeling true kindness, compassion and love. It doesn't make her a good person just because she's mentally ill. She isn't helpless. She knows right from wrong and chooses to do wrong. So does Amber Heard.
@@qi47 Indeed, she did considerable psychological damage. I'm glad to see throughout the interviews that he does have people who care for his well-being around him.
On behalf of all the men out there that have a partner exactly like what she explained,I'd like to say, thank you for describing the type of emotional and physical abuse that women like this put us through behind closed doors.
As a woman who has been diagnosed with this a long time ago.....I am sorry for what you went through. I know I am much better after seeking and getting help. God bless the partners who can love us through this.
*certian women
And then they'll say you're weak or not a man because you let a woman make you feel like that but it's real some just don't get it
AMEN!!!
Please leave these women and make sure they get treatment help. Don’t stay in this type of relationship thinking you can fix her. Save your life.
Looking at how Dr. Curry describes such complex topics shows that she is truly a profound speaker and educator! My sibling has been struggling with severe borderline personality disorder for years, which has resulted in the manifestation of many of the traits that Dr. Curry is explaining - rage, explosiveness, self-harm, externalized blame, and power struggles in relationships. I've studied human behaviour and dual diagnosis (special needs and mental illnesses) professionally and personally, and everything that Dr. Curry is saying is spot-on!
I love how the psychologist even while describing and explaining ambers scores refers to it as “people with this score show…” or “they” instead of directly addressing it as ambers. Very respectful.
Yep
Yep. This is probably not her first rodeo in expert witness testimony and she understands the limitations of her role, as well as the data she is working with. Continually referring to the research instead of the person is a key distinction of expert witness testimony, and allows her to maintain her objectivity. If she were to make any conclusions about Amber directly, they would likely be met with objections and she would be forced to rephrase her statements.
This woman is brilliant. Humanity should be grateful for her.
@@davemoody9263 It's interesting that yesterday when the witness was being cross examined by that female lawyer, it was established that this is the first time in all her 15 years of practice that this witness has been called to give expert witness testimony in court.
It shows her level of professionalism and non-bias in her findings and testimony, and I'm sure this will help Johnny's case a great deal.
Professionalism is great
Depp’s lawyers have so cooly and calmly laid out a very strong case where we can genuinely see the truth of the matter. This testimony is coming at the perfect time in the trial to be incredibly impactful, and the questions being asked are so masterfully designed in their pertinence and relevance. Either way, Depp has won this. The world now knows the truth and this testimony sealed the coffin of Heard’s fictitious and heinous lies that could have ruined his life and legacy forever had he not been brave enough to come forward with this trial.
It’s a turning point for sure
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These diagnoses are also VERY consistent with people who have substance abuse problems ... just like Johnny Depp.
Amen
I don't think his life will ever be ............ the same, no matter how the trial comes to an end. I hope he is able to recover without drugs and alcohol if possible. At least he has had a great career and is respected highly for his artistic achievements. Without the burden of her charms, he may still do some fantastic work. I looking forward to that.
I was in a relationship with a woman who showed significant signs of BPD - distorted and negative self image, obsession, fear of being left alone, emotional outbursts over every small thing, etc. I did what the psychologist explained - at first all my attention went to her, I did everything to please her, didn't see my friends, barely left the house, went everywhere with her... and I did that because otherwise she would either get mad or she would be in a sour mood. I completely submitted myself to her. 2 years in, I felt that I haven't seen my friends since forever and wanted to hang with them again... she would allow it on the condition that she would come with me and no was not an answer. I told her no once and the emotional outburst was hell.
Also to note is that from early on in the relationship she told me that if I wasn't with her, she would have killed herself already. This line... If you weren't with me, I'd kill myself... carried on for four years. She didn't fail to remind me that from time to time. I was unhappy and miserable, couldn't end the relationship because of fear. Tried to be my best for her, expecting a change but it only got worse... to a point that I was diagnosed with depression and had suicidal tendencies. She brushed it off as... How can you feel this way if you are with me. Gaslighting was an everyday issue.
After regular therapy and psychiatrist visits I pulled myself together and told her that I'm miserable and that I want to take a time off from this. To cool down, be separate and have a chance to focus on myself for one moment... She snapped, tried to jump down from an 8th floor window... after she was denied and held back... locked herself in the restroom and drank bleach. I called ambulance, she was locked for a night in a psych ward and got heavily sedated. Later i started to think back to it... She really didn't put much effort into actually trying to jump down from a window and from the hospital they told me that she had barely ingested any bleach. In the end it was only to make a scene... to make a point that she could do it.
That incident was a wake-up call for me... I just couldn't care anymore. I couldn't care less about her wanting to kill herself, because in the end I thought... If she would do it, I would be saved. I packed my bags, left... and she didn't kill herself, probably never even intended to. It was just a way for her to manipulate me.... she still lives on, looking for another guy to fall victim to her. I myself on the other hand have never felt so free. My career got a boost, i came off my medication and enjoying every single moment. I'm still single and I would say that these 4 years spoiled the concept of a relationship for me. I'm careful with dating and have trust issues, but slowly getting there. Still in therapy tho.
There were even more gruesome details in this toxic relationship I could write a book about, but kept it tl:dr format.
Sorry for all the typos... not a native English speaker. Take care everyone and stay safe.
So glad you made it! You deserve a fun and stable relationship where both thrive and unfold
I'm glad you got out, my kids father is engaged to your ex's doppelganger, he's just as bad tho so I'm not sure how he's going to be.
Feel sorry for you mate, truly horrible story. I was with a woman who turned out to have bpd.. I'm glad I am alive today (and with few mental scars) and are married with the best woman for me. I'm not a native english speaker myself.
Wow sounds like an absolute nightmare, ask God to help you find he right woman for you
Oh how much I can relate to most of what you said especially the "id kill myself" part. I tried my hardest for 2 years but god knows how much it drained me to my core and im glad I got out! Happy for you that you got free from such hell! Its very easy to say to someone to leave a partner when theyre on the outside looking in. Its a whole different experience when youre actually in it.
This is excellent witness testimony. She’s very articulate and covers so much information in 30 mins.
This has blown me away. We all called it but to hear a psychologist speak about these symptoms and illnesses and being able to already confirm much of what she says through the testimony of Ms heards former assistant and Johnny's friends. And the stories out there about her sister and mother...this is as close to a smoking gun that a case like this can have.
Not really, because this just shows Mrs Turd is abusive and not well in the head..for Johnny to win he has to prove defamation since this is what the trial is about.. I'm hoping for the Jury to see it his way but winning a defamation suit is tough.
@@Awesum Many, many people suffer from one disorder or another who have learned and practice coping skills to mitigate their effects on those around them. Because the effects can be controlled, having a disorder does not eliminate culpability when harm is caused to others. Depp may or may not get the verdict he desires, but this trial has most assuredly restored his reputation and destroyed Amber’s.
@@Awesum the disorder makes you want to to defame people. And worse.
@@Primus54 In the court of public opinion for sure, Amber has been unmasked. Will this give Depp his career back? That remains to be seen, I truly hope so, atleast by the end the majority will no longer view him as a abusive man
@@donttrickimtricky.8567 objection your honor! Hearsay
As a master's level therapist working on my doctorate with a focus on assessment, I can say that she did a really wonderful job breaking down very complex assessments and making them understandable for a layperson while still capturing the results.
Do you think that Her diagnosis may include a little bit of npd? She seems to have less remorse like she doesn't even care.
@@lady7571 In my experience, Borderline and Narcissistic personality disorders share similarities and are often mistaken for one another. There may be traits there, but overall I believe that the psychologist felt her presentation was better explained by BPD than NPD.
Good luck with your doctorate!
I think this is public lynching. Medical records should be sealed in court, this is a violation of human rights.
The crime is defamation not her mental health. We just need to proof what she accused him it’s not true. I am with Johnny but I don’t like public lynching.
Besides you can’t judge someone if you don’t know them. A test is prejudicial. If I was the judge I would not even listen. It’s a prejudicial report against her rights. I’ll bet you everyone of us would have similar results. It’s not an exact science subject to interpretación and be prejudicial.
@@mariapilarme Quite or you will get a slap as well.
This was like having therapy. In half hour she described my abusive ex wife perfectly. Somehow I feel better about her as I know all the vile things she accused me off were her disorders not mine.
I'm sorry you went through such an abusive relationship. I'm glad you got out safely and I hope you've found healing and are doing well. ❤
Remember when everyone commented on Amber copying Johnny’s clothing style? The witness explained why Amber did that. Scary how accurate she is!
I thought the same thing as soon as this was mentioned. I bet she and her team were kicking themselves after hearing that symptom described…
@@luxurylifela4559 especially since the jury all saw that as well. Nowhere to hide on that one
I THOUGHT THE SAME THING. So creepy. I've also noticed her copying his posture whenever he's on the stand.
Right she was even copying his hairstyle - going with a ponytail the day after he did.
She said they do this at the beginning of new relationship or meeting someone as they idealize them tho. Not sure that explains why she is copying him now 🤔
This is literally the first time someone can actually complete a sentence without saying “ objection or hearsay” 💀
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Its so refreshing to see someone actually able to finish a sentence. Kept waiting for "objection: hearsay"
Because she is an expert and has a doctorate. Also she is used to court proceedings, so she knows what precisely what language to use so that she is not rudely interrupted. It's not heresy because she is talking about general symptoms of having these disorders that clearly defined by the DSM.
Yeah, I was waiting for Amber's team to be all Phoenix Wright on her ass. But this time, Phoenix Wright decided to leave the room.
Oh god. Now I'm just picturing a meme of this trial where people play Pursuit - Cornered music to Johnny's team absolutely whooping Amber's ass.
Hearsay.
Hahahahahaha 😂
So what about those muffins?
My ex-wife was diognosed with borderline personality disorder post divorce. She is explaining what occurred to the letter. It is a nightmare.
Amber sits there like “none of this has got anything to do with me” her expression is unbelievable! This psychologist is fantastic, what a blow to Amber.
I know there's a Psychological word for that lol
I was in 10 years in relationship with women with BPD, and i know AH inside this was hardest time for her to listen all critic and couldn't gaslight, project, scream and abuse. I dont want to be person who received after this court day all anger what she have after this ....
AH is turning on her seat😀
Doesn’t this in a way help her? Seems like she can say she is mentally ill as an excuse.
She seems insane here.
This is a true professional therapist! She is hitting the nail on the head so directly and so precisely, I feel as though I need therapy to clearly define who I am...
Same😬
Therapy isn't all about being crazy it is legitimately a form of healing.
I hate the negative connotation with therapy. I'm studying to become a therapist and I think it's important for people to see a therapist just like you would a doctor to take care of your mind like you do your body
My therapist once smiled at me and said, "You don't think therapists see therapists?"
@@Icehound2 There was a joke on a TV show called the Nanny, that made that joke. But it makes sense - from hearing all the crazy stuff they hear, I believe they'd need therapy!
Amber’s face during this whole thing pretty much confirms every word the therapist said.
Right... She looks pissed at this therapist
@@TheForgottenLovers she has this ice looking face everyday no emotions, no reaction no surprised, angry, happy nothing
@Victor B She was feeling threatened. Lol
You'd like that, but it doesn't.
Looks like she wants to sue her after this 😂
This is so helpful to anyone who has or had an intimate partner or family member (male or female) who has a personality disorder. Johnny stood up for all of us . Being lied about behind your back is a terrible thing.
I wanna listen to this woman speak more. Holy hell she's incredible.
She’s beautiful. I can see why they chose her
You're doing her a disservice. That was almost certainly the most effective expert witness testimony I've ever seen, and I've seen a lot of them.
She also happens to be extremely attractive of course, but suggesting she was chosen for her looks is just not on
@@JDMJACOB1 😆 back under your bridge troll!
it's all so similar to the Jodi Arias case
@@johnbull1568 I think you misunderstood his comment. He never said they chose her for her beauty. I don't even think he meant she was beautiful as in attractive but she is amazing at her profession.
Psychologists can see through Amber’s sophisticated manipulation and her vindictive personality traits with absolute ease. Even so, I’ve no doubt that Amber truly believed she could outsmart the appropriate tests. That’s how confident and narcissistic she is.
Her deep-seeded psychological issues are so transparent, it’s kind of sad. But it is fantastic to see such a highly knowledgeable professional draw such accurate conclusions and spell it out so appropriately.
I hope JD wins with all my heart. He’s been victimised enough and it’s not ok.
Well the tests aren't particularly hard to fake, take questions like the introvert test, you'll get several similar questions where you rate 1-5 based on strong agree or strongly disagree and you'll get many obvious questions like "I would rather stay at home than go out on the weekends with my friends" or "if I am invited to a party I will attend without hesitation". These types of multiple choice tests will always be easy to fake but it takes a conscious psychopath to purposefully lie and fill in the wrong bubbles; I just wish the talked more about how she detected such deceit in such a test but ambers not particularly smart just because she knew how to game it although her analysis was still spot on. All she really said was "well its complicated" but I really wish she had more time and they'd allow her to properly explain it beyond the superficial explanation she was forced to give due to the imposed time constraints...
The justice system needs to vindicate him. He was EXTREMELY patient and kind to this woman.
Never pressed charges against her eventhough she chopped his finger, and punched and hit him many times. Gave her divorce settlement of 7 million dollars for a 14 month marriage-More then she got from Aquaman.
For what? So that she later would write about being a victim of domestic violence. It’s truly mind boggling how much she hated Johnny.
On top during the marriage she had sexual affairs with both Ellon Musk and James Franco. All the while she’s trying to set Johnny up.
shes like half of america who voted for trump: insecure narcissist
toxic femininity amiright
miss nose-job psychiatrist is spot on
As somebody who has BPD I can tell you that it is an extremely difficult thing to live with, it is like some other force has control over and your emotions. I think it is important to note that being Borderline does not automatically make you a bad person. I have the self awareness enough to seek to understand my disorder and take accountability for my actions when I let it get the best of me. I think there’s something else at play here with her like narcissistic tendencies that are causing her to attempt to destroy another persons life just because she didn’t get her way. I have never gone that far even with people who legitimately did abuse me. Anyway I’m not defending her because I absolutely think that she is guilty but I would hate for her to become the poster child for BPD because most of us are really trying to get through life with a sometimes emotionally debilitating disorder the best that we can
Thank you for saying this.
I have BPD+ Schizophrenia and I honestly can’t relate to anything this professional is saying. I will admit when I’m in the wrong and I know when I’ve done wrong and I will apologise. Most people with BPD have this illness due to being abused themselves and going through trauma. I feel like what she’s explaining is more narcissistic than borderline. Everybody is now gonna think that people with BPD are horrible people 😭 they are not. They are people with a severe mental illness who have been through a lot of abuse and traumas in the past and are actually decent and kind hearted human beings who are suffering every day.
❤💝💐 Thanks for sharing your story it takes courage💐
I have worked with individuals diagnosed with Borderline Personality Disorder, and I have been amazed at how expressive they are with words and art. It is a tough diagnosis, but it can be treated. Stay strong, I only have empathy.
I think the word petulant fits Amber.
@@carrie-annaward8828yes, I would say malignant Narc too
Back after AH cross examinations - and all I could think was how accurate Dr Curry was.