This was my first game ever at the Horseshoe. Immy seats were in B deck near the closed end of the shoe, it was so loud you couldn't hear the person next to you.
Texas, California, Florida, Georgia, Louisiana, Ohio, and Alabama are the top seven states in the country in production of football prospects. Five of these states feed into SEC football programs. This gives the SEC the lead in talent, having the greatest talent gives spark to attracting greater attention to football over other sports, having greater attention to football attracts heavy focus in spending more resources on top coaching and facilities, and so on. I'm sorry if you cant handle that?
Just think....all those young people in the stands are on their way to being old now.......me included, I remember watching these games as a young kid. I'll be 48 this yr....Time Flies.
I hear ya. Every now and then I'll watch the Holy Buckeye video. And I always think to myself man I can't believe that happened almost 20 years ago. All good times though.
I know the SEC doesnt control it but as structered with the BCS , to prove the true national championship it needs to change. Long ago it was a reward for us to go south or west for winning the Big Ten and treated it like a vacation. Us midwestern boys would never dream of going to California or South or if we did it was once in a childhood. Now with airfare being so cheap its not so much of a challenge. So lets make it fair and bring one BCS game up here and yes it will fill.
Its not about stadium size, its about filling the stadium. While your point that people from the south would like to see a white christmas is a good point, because i myself would love to experience real snow, its not good enough of one obviously for the businesses who make the decisions as to where the bowls are located. You act as if the SEC controls it. Also, you must remember that the majority of sec OOC games are scheduled at the beginning of the year, so its very unlikely to go up in nov.
Yes he was. I remember being a kid and him having a game winning catch against Iowa when they were ranked really high. I'm pretty sure they were top 5 and guaranteed a win against OSU and were at home. That was huge. Had to be like 1989-1990. I was only like 11.
You are spot on it was November 10,1990 Iowa was ranked # 5 and in the big ten lead OSU was coming off a tough stretch where they lost to USC Illinois and tied Indiana then they beat Purdue Minnesota and Northwestern smashing all three badly and I told my buddy watch out OSU was playing excellent but where he lived in San Diego it was all Midwest transplants rooting against OSU but Not that Saturday Olive made the game winner and OSU upset Iowa 27-26 I also remember on 1985 Iowa was ranked #1 and OSU shocked them 22-13 Sonny Gordon blocked a punt and the Buckeye defense were amazing that game
I dont want a big playoff.. I just want it spread out. The Rose Bowl is a tradition and want to still play there as you in the Sugar Bowl. We just have to live with the traveling and still reward these kids with that trip. But as far as the other minor bowls spread it out. Let them play out the Bowls and and the top two from there play again in the BCS championship game. If they cant figure out the top two after the bowl games im lost. I am a traditionalist and want the best of both worlds.
I will never forget this game because I was there with my cousin. When that game got out of hand he was mad and said let's go. And I said no way. As soon as things started turning around I looked at him and I said are you ready to go now. Every time we inched closer I said are you ready to go now. When we took the lead I said are you ready to go now. When the game was finally over I said are you ready to go now and we just celebrated in the stands with the rest of the fans. It was fantastic. We were all hugging and giving high fives to everyone. It was one of the most excited days of my life!
@@FSUOSU25 Funny I failed to mentioned after Urbans Gators beat Ohio State for the national championship in football...a few months later the Gators beat Ohio State for the national championship in basketball. I bet this NCAA record will never be broken..
LSU was never the same after this loss they would not even win another bowl game until 1995 some 7 years later. One of the greatest moments in OSU football history. GO BUCKS!!!!
Ohio became a state in 1803..the Louisiana Purchase was 1803. The majority of Ohians were Pennsylvania Dutch and later German immigrants and Louisiana was French. Dont go saying we dont have culture here. As far as the convention I am sure its to help the rebuilding effort due to Katrina in which we helped. Dont go ripping the people that has been helping you. Oh, the football hall of hame is here for a reason.
I was at this game, sitting in B deck. A lot of people had left because they didn't think we had a chance to win. Because of all the empty seats, we had moved down probably 20-30 rows as a result. It was the loudest I had ever heard the stadium. I will never forget Bobby Olive, #8, making that diving grab.
I remember when I was 4 years old. I was playing outside and was scared to death when from inside I heard my Dad through the shut doors and windows screaming at the top of this lungs. My first Buckeye memory and I wasn't even watching the game: 5:39.
It has everything to do with the creation of football. You wouldnt even believe what it is like here in Columbus in the fall. We live OSU. Remember we dont have pro sports here except for the hockey team. You would get the same thing in Lincoln Nebraska. All I am saying if you want a true national champion which the BCS is trying to achieve spread it out. They say home field is worth three points so if thats the case we would have at LEAST two more national championships.
If a team is playing 500 to a thousand miles from their home stadium they have no home advantage whether the game is played in the North or South. Usually Ohio State has the advantage because they travel with a larger fan base. Ohio States problem is when they don't have at least 30% of their roster coming from the South and can't match up SEC speed and talent. The last 3 beat downs Clemson (ACC) beat Ohio State i'll bet Ohio State had a larger fan base at the game. Tell you what. Next time Ohio State plays a top SEC team lets let only mid-west players play for the Bucks and only let Southern players play for the top SEC team. Guess What. Ohio State looses 99% of the time. Have Ohio State fans any regional pride? Why do they root for the Bucks when so many of their players are from the South?
I like Tressel but he was absolutely dogged by out of conference opponents, especially the SEC, not trying to troll but we had a few times where the ball bounced our way in that 2002 Championship game, Miami wins that 9/10 times. He also benefited from talent rich Ohio while other Big 10 recruiting was sub par. We cruised through the Big 10 cause of superior talent then got our asses whooped everytime we played an elite out of conference team. Urban is easily the greatest coach in Ohio State history, I just don't understand how people compare the two. He upped the program from a very good program to an elite program and also raised the recruiting level of the Big 10 by taking a more national approach.
Who can forget when Urban took his Florida Gators and beat Ohio State. With his SEC experience Urban knew Ohio State could not compete against the SEC unless Ohio State had at least 30% of it's roster coming from the South with special attention payed to Texas players. Enough said about regional pride. LSU, Alabama etc. have regional pride and always have 90% or more of their players coming from the South. Ohio State had to lose their regional pride if they were ever expected compete against the SEC.
Louisiana has more culture than ohio could ever hope for. How can a program with the mascot of a TYPE OF NUT put down anyone else, what a laughing stock!
Great seeing some names I haven't heard in ages like Carlos Snow, Greg Frey, Bobby Olive, Mike Sullivan etc. I remember watching this game and being worn out mentally!
Greg Freakin Frey the master of teo most remarkable comeback wins OSU history. This one of course and one the next season which would become the largest-ever deficit for a Buckeye team to overcome. It was in late October 1989 on the road against Minnesota. The Buckeyes were getting their asses kicked and all of a sudden Frey took control and engineered a masterful comeback. I have thanked him personally for making that disastrous game the memory of a lifetime. Thank you Greg Frey #15!!
But you are forgetting about travel. We are sleeping in strange cheap motel beds in a different environment and the home team is sleeping in their beds. We are sight seeing while the home team goes about their daily lives. Totally different experience and no about the 50/50 deal. I remember from every Rose Bowl game it was more like 70/30. We had our little section and they had the rest.
Down 13 with just under 2 minutes left to an SEC LSU, this remains the number 1 comeback of my 50 plus years watching Ohio State. A milestone, it boosted Cooper so high, but he was going to crash, badly, in his first season. Still, the final 4 minutes are a treasure, to be savored, over and over.
@@lawrenceredfilm8650 I think Urban Meyer taking his Florida Gators and beating Ohio State for the national championship is bigger. Because a few months later the Gators beat Ohio State for the national championship in basketball. What an embarrassment.
Losing to Michigan was Cooper's only problem at Ohio State. Cooper was an outstanding recruiter and fielded many top squads. But he always struggled to beat Michigan. Ohio State coaches have to beat Michigan. Games vs. Michigan are MUST WINS. If you're an Ohio State coach and you keep losing to Michigan, you're gone. It's that simple.
...one of, if not THE greatest heart surgeon in the world, Dr Debakey, and the founder of yahoo. Pretty good for a city of 72,000, and 180,000 people in its metro area. I would be willing to BET that lake charles ALONE has more cultural impact than the entire state of Ohio. You obviously do not understand what culture means. Again, its not about the people you produce, its about your impact on people outside of your society and your uniqueness and flavor of living.
Region that will attract a crowd? Big Ten has three of the five largest stadiums if not the top three and fill them every game. Believe me it will sell out. And for people wanting to come to the "north" yes if they are from the south they might want to experience what a white christmas is all about. Instead of a bowl game how about scheduling a game for the SEC to come up her in Nov. to play a regular season game?
OSU has only won 2 national championships in the last 31 years. Ohio State has a losing record to the top teams in the SEC. 1-3 against Alabama...0-1 against Auburn...0-2 against S. Carolina...0-2 against Florida...0-1 against Georgia...0-1 against Tenn.1-1 against LSU. OSU is 2-10 in Bowl games against the SEC and OSU historically has a losing bowl record. Also Mason Dixie line has nothing to do with winning or losing. Both teams are not playing in their home stadiums and must uproot themselves to play. OSU usually has a crowd advantage when both teams play. Plus OSU cannot compete unless 30% of the players on their roster comes from the South.
@@nedstewart1 Ohio State will always be in the national championship conversation. 3 straight big ten titles, 8 national titles, Rose bowl, Fiesta bowl, Sugar bowl , Cotton bowl victories. Only played Georgia and Tenn once and would beat them now.Ohio State and the Big Ten defeated all conferences and went 4-1 vs Sec teams in 2018 bowls.
@@christiancharles2866 Been following cfb for many years. Can even remember when FSU beat Ohio State 2 times with in a years time in the Shoe. Turf from the Shoe is buried in FSU's Sod Cemetery. Teams have up and down periods in their history. Ohio State is no exception. * national titles. The gold standard for National Championship has been the A.P. national Championship Trophy. Ohio State has 5 A.P. National Championships. 42' 54' 68' 02' 14' Been following cfb for many years. Lets face it. Ohio State cannot compete unless at least 30% of their players are from the South with a real co-dependence on Texas players, Ohio State historically has a losing bowl record. Against the ACC's FSU and Clemson Ohio State is 0-7. Biggest embarrassment is Ohio State being 0-7 against FSU & Clemson. Ohio State could not even think of competing if most of their players were from the mid-west.W/O 30% of Ohio States roster being from the South they could not compete against the big boys. Ohio States bowl record against the SEC 2-10 is a real embarrassment.
He sure did recruit a lot of damn speed when he was there. I'll give him that. He was a master recruiter. Never got many great QBs. Bobby Hoying and Joe Germaine were his best.
@Extra Introvert In the 98' Sugar Bowl Bobby Bowden's boys showed them what defense and speed was all about. The 2 QB's Germaine & Jackson who both started were so beat up it looked like they didn't want to play the 4th. qtr. Michigan that season hid in the Rose Bowl and claimed a co-championship while Nebraska played for the national championship in the Bowl Alliance National Championship game & took home the crystal football. FSU & Nebraska were the two best teams in the country that year & should have played in the Bowl Alliance National Championship game against each other for the crystal football. But the media wanted Michigan to be the national champions because Mic;higan had not won a championship in 50 year's.
home field is worth 3 points, why? because of the crowd. In all bowls, the tickets are sold 50/50 between teams... so where it is has very little effect on the game. USC lost to texas in their backyard, Florida traveled further away to destroy ohio state in arizona, sure the superdome is close to baton rouge but i know damn straight that lsu's crowd didnt have an advantage over the rowdy osu crowd. So im sorry, im just not buying the argument of the bowls giving anyone an advantage.
Im talking about average population over its existance, its much more complicated than that. Ofcorse you have culture, but nothing that comes close to what we have in louisiana. Louisiana doesnt have much to bragg about, culture and excellent sporting is about it. Im sure ohio has more as far as other things to brag about. And yes, the football hall of fame is in ohio, but i think the reason has more to do with the creation of football and the schools in the vicinity who were successful100yrsago
The SEC is dominant because they don't have academic standards. Half of your players cant spell there name let alone graduate with any kind dignity. Let the NCAA crack down on this and you will lose half of your players. This is the south we are talking about. Why doesn't the SEC ever come up here to play? Every bowl game is in their backyard. Eliminate the derelicts you have and play on equal ground and you might have an argument.
Yes, But with the game that counted they lost to LSU in the BCS national championship game. 1-1-1 record against LSU. And OSU also has a losing record to all other major SEC teams.
HUH? Lets see...Eight Presidents, the man who invented the light bulb, the three greatest union generals in Grant, Sheridan, Sherman, the men who invented the airplane, the first man to orbit the earth, the first to walk on the moon and so many others. What do you have down there? Justin Wilson?
Notwithstanding the win, I still think Cooper hurt our program. I also remember the win against LSU the following year. Frankly, I'll take Tressel any day of the week.
Oh, and trust me, i want a playoff system just as bad as you. Its all about money and nothing about true results, and thats disgusting. Oh i believe yall go crazy for OSU, and trust me when i say the entire state of Louisiana is all LSU, you cant drive from one place to another without seeing atleast several vehicles decked out with LSU something, that or even houses decked out with lsu apparel. I wouldnt have a problem with say, the rose bowl alternating between cali and ohio or illinois.
How nice of LSU to heave an incomplete pass with 1:40 left and the Buckeyes out of timeouts. "Breakdown in communication," nothing, what was with that playcall??
I was there on the very top row of seats in 10C. People were leaving the game before the comeback. After taking the lead I looked over the ledge and saw the fans who left stop and look toward the stadium to see what was going on. I told the guy next to me that they were so dumb to leave early cause anything can happen. Well, it did. What a comeback.
Did you see the LSU vs Ohio State national championship game. Here YouTUBE: lsu vs ohio state national championship 2007 Theirs a reason why the Ohio State is 2-10 against the SEC in bowl games.
Horrible coaching by Mike Archer to take the safety only up 6. After the free kick/punt the ball was returned to their own 40 anyway. Just trust your guys to get the punt off like you would any other time. Now LSU would've only been able to tie with a FG.
Ok, im pretty sure you cannot compare Ohio that has a population thats ten times greater over the history of its existence as a territory with Louisiana over the amount of influential people produced. Secondly, the people produced by a state has little to do with the culture of a state. Louisiana's culture > Ohio's, thats a fact. The GLOBAL cultural convention is being held in Louisiana this year, give me a break. And just to go along with you, my own city, lake charles, itself has produced...
I was at this game and rushed the field at the end. With about four minutes to go....I think about 30 to 40 % of the OSU fans had left the stadium. I could see them from C-deck heading out of the stadium. By the last minute I had moved down to about 15 rows behind the OSU bench. Still one of the best games I ever watched (P.S. OSU finished only 4-6-1 that year)
Uh...sorry...its Texas, California, Florida, Ohio, Pennsylvania, Illinois. Any gains the south has had in talent has been due to the migration of northerners who have lost employment here and yes its bad. Dont think we are migrating to the swamps though.
also Pete Carrol USC's coach served under Ohio State's program Under Earle Bruce he later became the Trojans head coach in 2000.Bob Stoops Oklahoma's coach is from Ohio I could go on and on but just to put thing in perspective 15 of the last 22 teams that played in the national championship had head coaches who were either from Ohio or came out of Ohio States coaching system. I could go to the NFL and name coaches from Ohio but you probably couldn't handle it so I'll stop there
Bobby Bowden made a fool out of Ohio State Football. Fact is when your in a conference who for many years hid in the Rose Bowl we can only count OSU's 2-10 bowl record against the SEC. How many of those loses were their Ohio Coaches? Why did it take so long for those Ohio coaches that a cloud of dust and 3 yards offense could not beat Southern speed and athleticism?
....and this was the last time any SEC ventured north to Ohio Stadium. We have Tennessee (the only SEC team with balls to play a decent OOC opponent) in 2018/19 I believe, but come on. The SEC is just too afraid to travel north of the mason-dixon. GO BUCKS!
regardless of what has happened with the Buckeyes people should still show a little respect. They didn't put the football hall of fame in Ohio for nothing.this state has done so much for the game it would be a sin to place it somewhere else.All the buckeyes are going to do is recruit faster players on the line and they will play with SEC teams because that's where they were getting beat.you actually think they don't see what the SEC is doing! everyone sees that's why they are making changes
ourhonordefend said: Dog on John Cooper all you want, but he has more victories over an SEC school than Jim Tressel. In this classic, the Buckeyes, under first year head coach John Cooper, stage an impossible rally to best the #6 ranked undefeated LSU Tigers. Before that point, the Tigers had won 14 straight road games. What got him fired was his 2-11-1 record against Michigan
Reason is Nick Saban has balls! Look at the SEC non conference games the last two years. Not to mention there havent really been any great teams besides Florida and Alabama the last few years. SEC is way over rated!
If Coop could have beat Michigan, he would have been one of the greats. Many hearts broke under his tenure, yet he could recruit and coach. Still can't get over Ron Zook. I'll never forget November 17 of 2007. Great post again, and keep up the good work. GO BUCKS!
Never said it was, your still grouping an entire region that comprises of 10 states... TEN, into one group, thats just utter stupidity. If its not stupid its down right ignorance. All o the major bowls are in regions that can attract a crowd... who the hell wants to visit the "north" in the middle of the winter? Here we go with trying to create prestige for your entire region by naming influential people. Jimmy Carter? I would personally disown him, but you know better than to use him as a label
i love watching these minimally corporate games. just a different feel to football back then. field lined with fans, celebrating with the team. now they cart out 100 uniformed police officers to line the field.
I really have to give it to John Coop. here. I couldn't stand that guy as a coach...he just couldn't pull out the big wins. But this time, he looked like a genius! Go Bucks!
@@nedstewart1 Burrow's pic should be with LSU. I still think he was the most NFL ready QB OSU had 3 years ago, and they should have stuck with him. Our loss is LSU's gain.
my favorite game ever...somemorable. a miracle.
Back watching this after the Notre Dame game.
My first game in Ohio Stadium. Still have the ticket stub!
This was my first game ever at the Horseshoe. Immy seats were in B deck near the closed end of the shoe, it was so loud you couldn't hear the person next to you.
A long time ago!!! Not anymore... it's to cold up here...
Heart breaking loss. Fortunately LSU got Revenge in 2007.
Carlos Snow was a beast out of high school!!
Texas, California, Florida, Georgia, Louisiana, Ohio, and Alabama are the top seven states in the country in production of football prospects. Five of these states feed into SEC football programs. This gives the SEC the lead in talent, having the greatest talent gives spark to attracting greater attention to football over other sports, having greater attention to football attracts heavy focus in spending more resources on top coaching and facilities, and so on. I'm sorry if you cant handle that?
Wow an SEC team playing north of the Mason Dixon line!
It seems LSU is the only one ever willing to do it.
@@adambear5720 yes, and we saw what happened! GO BUCKEYES!
Same thing I was thinking. The Citadel must have been busy that week.
Don't they know it might be cold? Or wet? Or windy?
Well they now know about the Horseshoe.
And you see what happens. Which is why they never play North of that line.
I was at this game.It was so exciting when Ohio State won.Then they lost at home next week to Illinois
Just think....all those young people in the stands are on their way to being old now.......me included, I remember watching these games as a young kid. I'll be 48 this yr....Time Flies.
I hear ya. Every now and then I'll watch the Holy Buckeye video. And I always think to myself man I can't believe that happened almost 20 years ago. All good times though.
I'm an old guy and saw FSU beat Ohio State 2 times with in the period of a year in the Shoe & later beat them in the 98'Sugar Bowl.
I think the year b4 they played to a 13-13 tie in Baton Rouge
I know the SEC doesnt control it but as structered with the BCS , to prove the true national championship it needs to change. Long ago it was a reward for us to go south or west for winning the Big Ten and treated it like a vacation. Us midwestern boys would never dream of going to California or South or if we did it was once in a childhood. Now with airfare being so cheap its not so much of a challenge. So lets make it fair and bring one BCS game up here and yes it will fill.
A young Zooker coaching for Oh St.
LSU fans will always remember the name Bobby Olive.
Its not about stadium size, its about filling the stadium. While your point that people from the south would like to see a white christmas is a good point, because i myself would love to experience real snow, its not good enough of one obviously for the businesses who make the decisions as to where the bowls are located. You act as if the SEC controls it. Also, you must remember that the majority of sec OOC games are scheduled at the beginning of the year, so its very unlikely to go up in nov.
Bobby Olive was a clutch player
Yes he was. I remember being a kid and him having a game winning catch against Iowa when they were ranked really high. I'm pretty sure they were top 5 and guaranteed a win against OSU and were at home. That was huge. Had to be like 1989-1990. I was only like 11.
You are spot on it was November 10,1990 Iowa was ranked # 5 and in the big ten lead OSU was coming off a tough stretch where they lost to USC Illinois and tied Indiana then they beat Purdue Minnesota and Northwestern smashing all three badly and I told my buddy watch out OSU was playing excellent but where he lived in San Diego it was all Midwest transplants rooting against OSU but Not that Saturday Olive made the game winner and OSU upset Iowa 27-26 I also remember on 1985 Iowa was ranked #1 and OSU shocked them 22-13 Sonny Gordon blocked a punt and the Buckeye defense were amazing that game
I dont want a big playoff.. I just want it spread out. The Rose Bowl is a tradition and want to still play there as you in the Sugar Bowl. We just have to live with the traveling and still reward these kids with that trip. But as far as the other minor bowls spread it out. Let them play out the Bowls and and the top two from there play again in the BCS championship game. If they cant figure out the top two after the bowl games im lost. I am a traditionalist and want the best of both worlds.
my dad played this game, on defense. #95, John Kacherski.
Nice. Bet you’ve heard stories huh?
Now do the 2007 title game.
I will never forget this game because I was there with my cousin. When that game got out of hand he was mad and said let's go. And I said no way. As soon as things started turning around I looked at him and I said are you ready to go now. Every time we inched closer I said are you ready to go now. When we took the lead I said are you ready to go now. When the game was finally over I said are you ready to go now and we just celebrated in the stands with the rest of the fans. It was fantastic. We were all hugging and giving high fives to everyone. It was one of the most excited days of my life!
That is awesome! Go Bucks!
Very cool. Thanks for sharing that.
A young Kirk Herbstreit congratulated the QB on the sideline. John Cooper at his finest. Carlos Snow. Buckeye fans in a frenzy!
Cooper wins, Tressel and Meyer bring championships to OSU.
And Urban Meyer and his Florida Gators beat Ohio State 41-14 and won the Gators a N.C.
@@nedstewart1 Fancy seeing you here. Normally your grinding it out on the Fiesta Bowl videos.
@@FSUOSU25 Funny I failed to mentioned after Urbans Gators beat Ohio State for the national championship in football...a few months later the Gators beat Ohio State for the national championship in basketball.
I bet this NCAA record will never be broken..
LSU was never the same after this loss they would not even win another bowl game until 1995 some 7 years later. One of the greatest moments in OSU football history. GO BUCKS!!!!
I think 2 of the greatest victories in FSU history was FSU beating Ohio State 2 times with in the period of a year in the Shoe.
We won the game that mattered in 2008.
Ohio became a state in 1803..the Louisiana Purchase was 1803. The majority of Ohians were Pennsylvania Dutch and later German immigrants and Louisiana was French. Dont go saying we dont have culture here. As far as the convention I am sure its to help the rebuilding effort due to Katrina in which we helped. Dont go ripping the people that has been helping you. Oh, the football hall of hame is here for a reason.
I was at this game, sitting in B deck. A lot of people had left because they didn't think we had a chance to win. Because of all the empty seats, we had moved down probably 20-30 rows as a result. It was the loudest I had ever heard the stadium. I will never forget Bobby Olive, #8, making that diving grab.
I remember when I was 4 years old. I was playing outside and was scared to death when from inside I heard my Dad through the shut doors and windows screaming at the top of this lungs. My first Buckeye memory and I wasn't even watching the game: 5:39.
It has everything to do with the creation of football. You wouldnt even believe what it is like here in Columbus in the fall. We live OSU. Remember we dont have pro sports here except for the hockey team. You would get the same thing in Lincoln Nebraska. All I am saying if you want a true national champion which the BCS is trying to achieve spread it out. They say home field is worth three points so if thats the case we would have at LEAST two more national championships.
If a team is playing 500 to a thousand miles from their home stadium they have no home advantage whether the game is played in the North or South. Usually Ohio State has the advantage because they travel with a larger fan base. Ohio States problem is when they don't have at least 30% of their roster coming from the South and can't match up SEC speed and talent. The last 3 beat downs Clemson (ACC) beat Ohio State i'll bet Ohio State had a larger fan base at the game. Tell you what. Next time Ohio State plays a top SEC team lets let only mid-west players play for the Bucks and only let Southern players play for the top SEC team. Guess What. Ohio State looses 99% of the time. Have Ohio State fans any regional pride? Why do they root for the Bucks when so many of their players are from the South?
Thanks for everything you post!
I like Tressel but he was absolutely dogged by out of conference opponents, especially the SEC, not trying to troll but we had a few times where the ball bounced our way in that 2002 Championship game, Miami wins that 9/10 times. He also benefited from talent rich Ohio while other Big 10 recruiting was sub par. We cruised through the Big 10 cause of superior talent then got our asses whooped everytime we played an elite out of conference team. Urban is easily the greatest coach in Ohio State history, I just don't understand how people compare the two. He upped the program from a very good program to an elite program and also raised the recruiting level of the Big 10 by taking a more national approach.
Who can forget when Urban took his Florida Gators and beat Ohio State. With his SEC experience Urban knew Ohio State could not compete against the SEC unless Ohio State had at least 30% of it's roster coming from the South with special attention payed to Texas players. Enough said about regional pride. LSU, Alabama etc. have regional pride and always have 90% or more of their players coming from the South. Ohio State had to lose their regional pride if they were ever expected compete against the SEC.
Louisiana has more culture than ohio could ever hope for. How can a program with the mascot of a TYPE OF NUT put down anyone else, what a laughing stock!
This was the first game I also watched as a kid living in Ohio and been a buckeye die hard ever since
This was the first Ohio State game I can remember watching as a kid.
Bobby Olive dropped the ball in the end zone it was visible from a local news camera but no replay in 1988.
Great seeing some names I haven't heard in ages like Carlos Snow, Greg Frey, Bobby Olive, Mike Sullivan etc. I remember watching this game and being worn out mentally!
One of the loudest crowds I ever heard at an OSU game and that was after thousands had left thinking the game was over.
It was just insane. I just remember hugging everybody around me in the stands!
Greg Freakin Frey the master of teo most remarkable comeback wins OSU history. This one of course and one the next season which would become the largest-ever deficit for a Buckeye team to overcome. It was in late October 1989 on the road against Minnesota. The Buckeyes were getting their asses kicked and all of a sudden Frey took control and engineered a masterful comeback. I have thanked him personally for making that disastrous game the memory of a lifetime. Thank you Greg Frey #15!!
LSU vs ohio state 1988
But you are forgetting about travel. We are sleeping in strange cheap motel beds in a different environment and the home team is sleeping in their beds. We are sight seeing while the home team goes about their daily lives. Totally different experience and no about the 50/50 deal. I remember from every Rose Bowl game it was more like 70/30. We had our little section and they had the rest.
That's the last time you beat LSU
Down 13 with just under 2 minutes left to an SEC LSU, this remains the number 1 comeback of my 50 plus years watching Ohio State. A milestone, it boosted Cooper so high, but he was going to crash, badly, in his first season. Still, the final 4 minutes are a treasure, to be savored, over and over.
William Smith bigger than Bama 15 Sugar? I know points were less, but stage was bigger.
@@lawrenceredfilm8650 I think Urban Meyer taking his Florida Gators and beating Ohio State for the national championship is bigger. Because a few months later the Gators beat Ohio State for the national championship in basketball. What an embarrassment.
Losing to Michigan was Cooper's only problem at Ohio State.
Cooper was an outstanding recruiter and fielded many top squads. But he always struggled to beat Michigan.
Ohio State coaches have to beat Michigan. Games vs. Michigan are MUST WINS.
If you're an Ohio State coach and you keep losing to Michigan, you're gone. It's that simple.
It took 10 losses (2 wins, 1 tie) for Cooper to get canned. He “kept losing to Michigan.” Since him, OSU has lost twice. TWICE. This entire century.
@@ImVee10 should fired him after 3-4 losses
2 outstanding games between these 2 in 87-88. So great.
Yes i believe it was a 13-13
I was eleven years old when this game was played!!!!! I wish i would of saw it live!!!!!!
I was there and you are right it was incredible live!
...one of, if not THE greatest heart surgeon in the world, Dr Debakey, and the founder of yahoo. Pretty good for a city of 72,000, and 180,000 people in its metro area. I would be willing to BET that lake charles ALONE has more cultural impact than the entire state of Ohio. You obviously do not understand what culture means. Again, its not about the people you produce, its about your impact on people outside of your society and your uniqueness and flavor of living.
Bobby! You were so Young!
Why didnt the LSU coach go for 2 after that last TD by them? Up 12 or 13, makes no difference, you lose if you give up 2 tds either way.
Region that will attract a crowd? Big Ten has three of the five largest stadiums if not the top three and fill them every game. Believe me it will sell out. And for people wanting to come to the "north" yes if they are from the south they might want to experience what a white christmas is all about. Instead of a bowl game how about scheduling a game for the SEC to come up her in Nov. to play a regular season game?
AMERICA'S TEAM THE OHIO STATE BUCKEYES.
OSU has only won 2 national championships in the last 31 years. Ohio State has a losing record to the top teams in the SEC. 1-3 against Alabama...0-1 against Auburn...0-2 against S. Carolina...0-2 against Florida...0-1 against Georgia...0-1 against Tenn.1-1 against LSU.
OSU is 2-10 in Bowl games against the SEC and OSU historically has a losing bowl record. Also Mason Dixie line has nothing to do with winning or losing. Both teams are not playing in their home stadiums and must uproot themselves to play. OSU usually has a crowd advantage when both teams play. Plus OSU cannot compete unless 30% of the players on their roster comes from the South.
@@nedstewart1 You forgot that Penn State is our rivals now. Not the team up North. Don't hate. OSU is always in the conversation.
@@nedstewart1 Ohio State will always be in the national championship conversation. 3 straight big ten titles, 8 national titles, Rose bowl, Fiesta bowl, Sugar bowl , Cotton bowl victories. Only played Georgia and Tenn once and would beat them now.Ohio State and the Big Ten defeated all conferences and went 4-1 vs Sec teams in 2018 bowls.
@@christiancharles2866 Been following cfb for many years. Can even remember when FSU beat Ohio State 2 times with in a years time in the Shoe. Turf from the Shoe is buried in FSU's Sod Cemetery.
Teams have up and down periods in their history. Ohio State is no exception.
* national titles. The gold standard for National Championship has been the A.P. national Championship Trophy. Ohio State has 5 A.P. National Championships. 42' 54' 68' 02' 14' Been following cfb for many years.
Lets face it. Ohio State cannot compete unless at least 30% of their players are from the South with a real co-dependence on Texas players,
Ohio State historically has a losing bowl record.
Against the ACC's FSU and Clemson Ohio State is 0-7.
Biggest embarrassment is Ohio State being 0-7 against FSU &
Clemson.
Ohio State could not even think of competing if most of their players were from the mid-west.W/O 30% of Ohio States roster being from the South they could not compete against the big boys.
Ohio States bowl record against the SEC 2-10 is a real embarrassment.
@@nedstewart1 Ohio State is the big boys. What are u talking about.
Amazing comeback!
6:35 Kirk Herbstreit on the sideline
WAS THIS COOPER'S GREATEST VICTORY? I'm thinking...YES!
nah , 97 Rose Bowl
i miss the old uniforms
This Cooper's "slow white guys" team
@James Kirk John Cooper said we had "too many slow white guys" on that team.
The overwhelming majority were Earle Bruce guys.
He sure did recruit a lot of damn speed when he was there. I'll give him that. He was a master recruiter. Never got many great QBs. Bobby Hoying and Joe Germaine were his best.
Joseph Ringling krenzel he turned out ok
@Extra Introvert In the 98' Sugar Bowl Bobby Bowden's boys showed them what defense and speed was all about. The 2 QB's Germaine & Jackson who both started were so beat up it looked like they didn't want to play the 4th. qtr. Michigan that season hid in the Rose Bowl and claimed a co-championship while Nebraska played for the national championship in the Bowl Alliance National Championship game & took home the crystal football. FSU & Nebraska were the two best teams in the country that year & should have played in the Bowl Alliance National Championship game against each other for the crystal football. But the media wanted Michigan to be the national champions because Mic;higan had not won a championship in 50 year's.
home field is worth 3 points, why? because of the crowd. In all bowls, the tickets are sold 50/50 between teams... so where it is has very little effect on the game. USC lost to texas in their backyard, Florida traveled further away to destroy ohio state in arizona, sure the superdome is close to baton rouge but i know damn straight that lsu's crowd didnt have an advantage over the rowdy osu crowd. So im sorry, im just not buying the argument of the bowls giving anyone an advantage.
Im talking about average population over its existance, its much more complicated than that. Ofcorse you have culture, but nothing that comes close to what we have in louisiana. Louisiana doesnt have much to bragg about, culture and excellent sporting is about it. Im sure ohio has more as far as other things to brag about. And yes, the football hall of fame is in ohio, but i think the reason has more to do with the creation of football and the schools in the vicinity who were successful100yrsago
LSU's Head Coach, Mike Archer was selected over Mike Shanahan and Steve Spurrier...TYPICAL of LSU ADs. Look at the coaching situation today for LSU.
The fact is, most SEC schools really do lack academic prestige. A higher graduation rate doesn't necessarily prove that it is a good school.
The SEC is dominant because they don't have academic standards. Half of your players cant spell there name let alone graduate with any kind dignity. Let the NCAA crack down on this and you will lose half of your players. This is the south we are talking about. Why doesn't the SEC ever come up here to play? Every bowl game is in their backyard. Eliminate the derelicts you have and play on equal ground and you might have an argument.
One of Ohio State's few wins in 1988.
I remember they tied with LSU in 1987 in Baton rouge.
Yes, But with the game that counted they lost to LSU in the BCS national championship game. 1-1-1 record against LSU. And OSU also has a losing record to all other major SEC teams.
Ohio State's offense was terrible in 07.They were lucky 😳 to get a 13-13 tie on the road.
HUH? Lets see...Eight Presidents, the man who invented the light bulb, the three greatest union generals in Grant, Sheridan, Sherman, the men who invented the airplane, the first man to orbit the earth, the first to walk on the moon and so many others. What do you have down there? Justin Wilson?
Notwithstanding the win, I still think Cooper hurt our program. I also remember the win against LSU the following year. Frankly, I'll take Tressel any day of the week.
Are you still alive?
They tied LSU the year before and lost in Jan ‘08. You remember dick.
I LOVE HEARING THAT COMMENTATORS VOICE
Oh, and trust me, i want a playoff system just as bad as you. Its all about money and nothing about true results, and thats disgusting. Oh i believe yall go crazy for OSU, and trust me when i say the entire state of Louisiana is all LSU, you cant drive from one place to another without seeing atleast several vehicles decked out with LSU something, that or even houses decked out with lsu apparel. I wouldnt have a problem with say, the rose bowl alternating between cali and ohio or illinois.
was there but the people I was with wanted to leave early,listened to the end on the radio
Damn, that sucks. I stayed. It was incredible!
LSU was dumb for passing on 3rd down when OSU had no TO's left.
How nice of LSU to heave an incomplete pass with 1:40 left and the Buckeyes out of timeouts. "Breakdown in communication," nothing, what was with that playcall??
I was there on the very top row of seats in 10C. People were leaving the game before the comeback. After taking the lead I looked over the ledge and saw the fans who left stop and look toward the stadium to see what was going on. I told the guy next to me that they were so dumb to leave early cause anything can happen. Well, it did. What a comeback.
Did you see the LSU vs Ohio State national championship game. Here
YouTUBE: lsu vs ohio state national championship 2007
Theirs a reason why the Ohio State is 2-10 against the SEC in bowl games.
@@nedstewart1 Yes, sadly I watched it. Not a good game by the Bucks. Some you win, some you lose. But Ohio State is a better team and so is LSU.
Horrible coaching by Mike Archer to take the safety only up 6. After the free kick/punt the ball was returned to their own 40 anyway. Just trust your guys to get the punt off like you would any other time. Now LSU would've only been able to tie with a FG.
Ok, im pretty sure you cannot compare Ohio that has a population thats ten times greater over the history of its existence as a territory with Louisiana over the amount of influential people produced. Secondly, the people produced by a state has little to do with the culture of a state. Louisiana's culture > Ohio's, thats a fact. The GLOBAL cultural convention is being held in Louisiana this year, give me a break. And just to go along with you, my own city, lake charles, itself has produced...
I was at this game and rushed the field at the end. With about four minutes to go....I think about 30 to 40 % of the OSU fans had left the stadium. I could see them from C-deck heading out of the stadium. By the last minute I had moved down to about 15 rows behind the OSU bench. Still one of the best games I ever watched (P.S. OSU finished only 4-6-1 that year)
Uh...sorry...its Texas, California, Florida, Ohio, Pennsylvania, Illinois. Any gains the south has had in talent has been due to the migration of northerners who have lost employment here and yes its bad. Dont think we are migrating to the swamps though.
Can you do some more '02 games, please? Penn State, Washington State, or Wisconsin would be great.
We're coming back this year believe Ohio State believe
also Pete Carrol USC's coach served under Ohio State's program Under Earle Bruce he later became the Trojans head coach in 2000.Bob Stoops Oklahoma's coach is from Ohio I could go on and on but just to put thing in perspective 15 of the last 22 teams that played in the national championship had head coaches who were either from Ohio or came out of Ohio States coaching system. I could go to the NFL and name coaches from Ohio but you probably couldn't handle it so I'll stop there
Bobby Bowden made a fool out of Ohio State Football. Fact is when your in a conference who for many years hid in the Rose Bowl we can only count OSU's 2-10 bowl record against the SEC. How many of those loses were their Ohio Coaches? Why did it take so long for those Ohio coaches that a cloud of dust and 3 yards offense could not beat Southern speed and athleticism?
....and this was the last time any SEC ventured north to Ohio Stadium.
We have Tennessee (the only SEC team with balls to play a decent OOC opponent) in 2018/19 I believe, but come on. The SEC is just too afraid to travel north of the mason-dixon.
GO BUCKS!
regardless of what has happened with the Buckeyes people should still show a little respect. They didn't put the football hall of fame in Ohio for nothing.this state has done so much for the game it would be a sin to place it somewhere else.All the buckeyes are going to do is recruit faster players on the line and they will play with SEC teams because that's where they were getting beat.you actually think they don't see what the SEC is doing! everyone sees that's why they are making changes
@takeurlumps actually the last sec team came north and that was vanderbilt in 06 when they faced northwestern.
Before instant replay. That last touchdown he didn't have possession of the ball. I was 4 when this game was played. I'm 36 now
greg Frye really was a good QB.
Minnesota come back win, 33 to 3 at half time.
@smallrails My father was one of those who left early. Poetic justice!
ourhonordefend said: Dog on John Cooper all you want, but he has more victories over an SEC school than Jim Tressel. In this classic, the Buckeyes, under first year head coach John Cooper, stage an impossible rally to best the #6 ranked undefeated LSU Tigers. Before that point, the Tigers had won 14 straight road games.
What got him fired was his 2-11-1 record against Michigan
Reason is Nick Saban has balls! Look at the SEC non conference games the last two years. Not to mention there havent really been any great teams besides Florida and Alabama the last few years. SEC is way over rated!
I thought the Buckeyes had never beat the SEC before that Arkansas game... this is clearly a win.
Why did I click on an OSU win!
If Coop could have beat Michigan, he would have been one of the greats. Many hearts broke under his tenure, yet he could recruit and coach. Still can't get over Ron Zook. I'll never forget November 17 of 2007.
Great post again, and keep up the good work.
GO BUCKS!
Never said it was, your still grouping an entire region that comprises of 10 states... TEN, into one group, thats just utter stupidity. If its not stupid its down right ignorance. All o the major bowls are in regions that can attract a crowd... who the hell wants to visit the "north" in the middle of the winter? Here we go with trying to create prestige for your entire region by naming influential people. Jimmy Carter? I would personally disown him, but you know better than to use him as a label
how stupid could LSU be... Passing?? lol
run the clock out!! lol
anyway, GO BUCKS
WOW.....you stuck on this. If I was an Ohio st fan I would forget about the 2006 National title game against the LSU Tigers to.
If I were you, I’d open an English textbook, you Clown.
it was 2007, and that was a rebuilding year
In fairness, Alabama has visits upcoming to both Penn State and Michigan State.
Bo/Mark Pelini was a captain this team? Starter! Husker Pride for our coach!
i love watching these minimally corporate games. just a different feel to football back then. field lined with fans, celebrating with the team. now they cart out 100 uniformed police officers to line the field.
my dad played this game, on defense. #95, John Kacherski. Pause at 2:56, he's on the right.
are you cade?
The Buckeyes have a winning record in BCS games. Thanks for asking.
And have won 2 national championships in the last 31 years.
I really have to give it to John Coop. here. I couldn't stand that guy as a coach...he just couldn't pull out the big wins. But this time, he looked like a genius! Go Bucks!
not in the last what... 5 years? what?
2:20 Those high-top hair do's are making a come back - I'm seeing dudes in the NFL with them.
All I can say is Ohio, thank you for Joe Burreaux
Never understood why Meyer couldn't adjust his game plan to Burrow (that's how we spell it in Ohio, lol). Kid was NFL ready 3 years ago.
@@davidheilman1928 It took an SEC team to develop him. His Heisman trophy picture will be with him wearing a SEC jersey.
@@davidheilman1928 Yes Urban Meyer and his Florida Gators developed Tebow.
@@nedstewart1 Burrow's pic should be with LSU. I still think he was the most NFL ready QB OSU had 3 years ago, and they should have stuck with him. Our loss is LSU's gain.