Be sure to use the timestamps if you want to go through the information quicker! 00:00 Intro 01:26 Reason for the Light System 02:20 6 Phases and 13 Steps 03:33 Vaccinate Breeders - Step 1 04:06 Turn on the Lights - Step 2 04:28 Pair Up the Breeders - Step 3 04:47 Setup YB Loft with Lights - Step 4 07:00 Wean and Settle Period - Step 5 08:06 Loft flying and Ranging - Step 6 08:23 Pre-molt Toss Training - Step 7 09:05 Cut the 9th and 10th; Lights Off - Step 8 11:00 Pull 9th & 10th; Lockdown - Step 9 13:40 Release Birds to Loft Flying - Step 10 15:40 Toss Training Schedule - Step 11 16:32 Last Long Toss - Step 12 17:20 Ready for 1st Race 🏁- Step 13 17:32 Wrapping Up 17:53 CJC Combine & Dark System 20:05 Thanks for Watching
@@MaydisLoft I thought you just feed them , keep the loft clean and raced them. After watching a few video clips it’s a science. Very interesting. I might give it a go now I have the time. Keep them coming my friend.
17 hours of light everyday? i have a timer light in the loft if i set that to come on 5 am. turn off 7 am (natural light) leave off until 7 pm - turn back on until 10 pm that 17 hours. the daylight here in ireland will change so I will have to work around that. but no matter the case it's 17 hours of daylight exactly for 9 weeks? I am racing for the first year the light system looks like it is so much easier for me with work etc.
17 hours is good, some people do 18 or more. The point is to then stop the artificial light which will reduce the day light horizon and triggers the moult since they think fall is coming. I'm glad you're using that system, best of luck 👍
awesome video Sir, very put together information. I'm kind of new to the sports try to learn everyday I just got one question what happened if you start your breeding let say the end of december how would this system works? any advice would greatly appreciated. FYI club season on august. thank again for the video you have a new subrcriber.....
Great tips for new fanciers like myself, assuming you got babies at the beginning of the season (Jan-March). What if you have your babies weaned in May-June and your race season is 15th of August?? You won't have time for all of this, especially cutting & pulling feathers. What steps from your plan would you consider skipping to be at least somewhat competitive with the ones who weaned early in the year. Or what to consider as important steps to have your YB flying few races (3-4 races) and be ready for next year's OB season. Thanks for the video. You have a new subscriber 🤜🤛.
I have 5 birds in the team weaned late April and May. I try not to. I had to train them in June to catch up to the others to toss training together in July and August for the races. They were only on the natural system, molting later than the others. They will still race but likely their performance will be best mid season to end of season. The important part is to look at their wings and if they dropped the 9th and 10th I usually don't race them until they regrow. They're the most important flights for performance and they'll have a hard time coming home in a long race. Many flyers still do well on the natural system and is best actually for OB. All else equal it's still the quality of the bird that makes the difference. Best of luck buddy
Thanks a lot for your advice. I enjoy watching your videos so keep them coming. I had no other choice but to buy late hatches. So I do it on natural since there's no other way to do it better at such a short time - and I agree that a lot has to do with the pedigree and how well you can teach them homing. We will see. I'll try your method next year when I have some breeders from this year's YB season. All the best from Poland.
Thanks fo this video. I followed this system with my first rounders this year. They just got done growing in their 9th and 10th. Unexpectedly a couple birds dropped their 10th again, one even dropped his 9th and 10th. Any advice as to why this happened?
Awesome video Professor Silvio!.. I know that took a lot of time and effort to put together and it turned out great. Thanks for taking the time to do that for everybody.. Awesome information indeed... 👍👍👨🎓
Crazy. I’m just getting back into the sport after 20 years or so. I kind of felt behind or my timing was messed up. So I chose to make a system and our timelines are so similar. I shut lights off on the 12th and cut on 15th. At least now if your timeline work similar for my birds I have a better idea of how to manage. Thanks for sharing
They're about 4 or 5 feet long which plugs right into the outlet. It's good, economic and the light is super bright. I'm not sure what brand but I got it at home depot
Here's the link for exactly what I have. The great thing about it is that you can link one to another light fixture! www.homedepot.com/p/Metalux-SHP-4-ft-96-Watt-Equivalent-Integrated-LED-White-Shop-Light-5000-Lumens-4000K-CCT-4SHP5040RL/320924641
I got it my first YB will be puted into the loft around end of march and second round also. What about pulling last flights should i do it? and We got last race about 25th Sep. Will YB moult second time ?@@MaydisLoft
Isn’t that why they stopped the Darkening system in your because it’s an advanced just like the light system is an advance if anyone flies the natural system?
That's a good point! I think the difference is that between the natural system and the light system is still a narrow difference regarding performance, an acceptable advantage. Everyone has an option to use one or the other. Some say YB on the natural system are better OB! But the difference between natural and dark system is way different in performance with the latter having too much advantage. But the real problem is that while honest hardworking guys on the dark system could then be competing with dishonest people with birds on something bad, and it's difficult to manage integrity vs drug testing. I wonder how other Combines that allow the dark system manage it!?
Back out 30 to 35 days from race 1 so you can do a good toss training program. Back out 30 days for the moult - pull the flights and lock them down for 3 weeks inside with no flying and 1 week let them out with no pressure or toss training as they'll still be finalizing regrowing the flights and start flying again. Go easy on the 1st week of toss traing. Back out 2 weeks that's when you cut the flights and shut off the 18 hours of light and they will moult. You can only use 1 week before pulling the flights. You may not have time to do a long pre-moult training, so after your birds are ranging good, use a 5 mile radius educating them on a short toss training program. You want to get a few tosses before the moult, I think it's crucial. You will need to shorten the time window for most steps, but I think it's doable. Put it on paper backtracking. It's tight, but doable. Where do you race that starts in June?
I will love to talk more about this system because here in the Caribbean it is hot and I learn that the dark system will give my birds respiratory problems
No, you turn off the lights to only natural light mid May. It’s at step 8 but I only mentioned it at step 9! 11:00 Pull 9th & 10th, & Lockdown - Step 9
Be sure to use the timestamps if you want to go through the information quicker!
00:00 Intro
01:26 Reason for the Light System
02:20 6 Phases and 13 Steps
03:33 Vaccinate Breeders - Step 1
04:06 Turn on the Lights - Step 2
04:28 Pair Up the Breeders - Step 3
04:47 Setup YB Loft with Lights - Step 4
07:00 Wean and Settle Period - Step 5
08:06 Loft flying and Ranging - Step 6
08:23 Pre-molt Toss Training - Step 7
09:05 Cut the 9th and 10th; Lights Off - Step 8
11:00 Pull 9th & 10th; Lockdown - Step 9
13:40 Release Birds to Loft Flying - Step 10
15:40 Toss Training Schedule - Step 11
16:32 Last Long Toss - Step 12
17:20 Ready for 1st Race 🏁- Step 13
17:32 Wrapping Up
17:53 CJC Combine & Dark System
20:05 Thanks for Watching
Thank you great info
Thanks buddy
Nice tutorial Profesor Silvio! 🙋🏻♂️
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Just trying to share what I know! 😆
Absolutely fascinating. I never knew the sport was so technical. Nice job my friend. 👍
I think it becomes second nature after a few years but i think for the new comers it helps to have a timeline like this.
@@MaydisLoft
I thought you just feed them , keep the loft clean and raced them. After watching a few video clips it’s a science. Very interesting. I might give it a go now I have the time. Keep them coming my friend.
17 hours of light everyday? i have a timer light in the loft if i set that to come on 5 am. turn off 7 am (natural light) leave off until 7 pm - turn back on until 10 pm that 17 hours. the daylight here in ireland will change so I will have to work around that. but no matter the case it's 17 hours of daylight exactly for 9 weeks? I am racing for the first year the light system looks like it is so much easier for me with work etc.
17 hours is good, some people do 18 or more. The point is to then stop the artificial light which will reduce the day light horizon and triggers the moult since they think fall is coming. I'm glad you're using that system, best of luck 👍
awesome video Sir, very put together information. I'm kind of new to the sports try to learn everyday I just got one question what happened if you start your breeding let say the end of december how would this system works? any advice would greatly appreciated. FYI club season on august. thank again for the video you have a new subrcriber.....
That's my schedule too! It applies perfectly.
Great tips for new fanciers like myself, assuming you got babies at the beginning of the season (Jan-March). What if you have your babies weaned in May-June and your race season is 15th of August?? You won't have time for all of this, especially cutting & pulling feathers. What steps from your plan would you consider skipping to be at least somewhat competitive with the ones who weaned early in the year. Or what to consider as important steps to have your YB flying few races (3-4 races) and be ready for next year's OB season. Thanks for the video. You have a new subscriber 🤜🤛.
I have 5 birds in the team weaned late April and May. I try not to. I had to train them in June to catch up to the others to toss training together in July and August for the races.
They were only on the natural system, molting later than the others.
They will still race but likely their performance will be best mid season to end of season. The important part is to look at their wings and if they dropped the 9th and 10th I usually don't race them until they regrow. They're the most important flights for performance and they'll have a hard time coming home in a long race.
Many flyers still do well on the natural system and is best actually for OB. All else equal it's still the quality of the bird that makes the difference. Best of luck buddy
And thank you for subscribing 👍
Thanks a lot for your advice. I enjoy watching your videos so keep them coming. I had no other choice but to buy late hatches. So I do it on natural since there's no other way to do it better at such a short time - and I agree that a lot has to do with the pedigree and how well you can teach them homing. We will see. I'll try your method next year when I have some breeders from this year's YB season. All the best from Poland.
@@marcinpasternak8144 Awesome! Make sure you watch my next video!
Thanks fo this video. I followed this system with my first rounders this year. They just got done growing in their 9th and 10th. Unexpectedly a couple birds dropped their 10th again, one even dropped his 9th and 10th. Any advice as to why this happened?
Awesome video Professor Silvio!.. I know that took a lot of time and effort to put together and it turned out great. Thanks for taking the time to do that for everybody.. Awesome information indeed... 👍👍👨🎓
Thanks. If 1 person can benefit from the video then it was worth it!
Crazy. I’m just getting back into the sport after 20 years or so. I kind of felt behind or my timing was messed up. So I chose to make a system and our timelines are so similar. I shut lights off on the 12th and cut on 15th. At least now if your timeline work similar for my birds I have a better idea of how to manage. Thanks for sharing
That's awesome, welcome back to the sport.
What kind of lights do you use.I know you said led but what specifically were they?
They're about 4 or 5 feet long which plugs right into the outlet. It's good, economic and the light is super bright. I'm not sure what brand but I got it at home depot
Here's the link for exactly what I have. The great thing about it is that you can link one to another light fixture!
www.homedepot.com/p/Metalux-SHP-4-ft-96-Watt-Equivalent-Integrated-LED-White-Shop-Light-5000-Lumens-4000K-CCT-4SHP5040RL/320924641
Thanks so much for this video
My pleasure, hope you get something of value out of it 😊
Hi thanks for this video. Will it work with YB if I start breed from february
Absolutely! It's the change in length of light that pushes them to molt. Good luck next year.
I got it my first YB will be puted into the loft around end of march and second round also. What about pulling last flights should i do it? and We got last race about 25th Sep. Will YB moult second time ?@@MaydisLoft
Excellent video
Glad you like it, hopefully it can be helpful.
Great video very informative you took your personal tome to share this info with us grear gratly appreciated 😊
My pleasure buddy!
Pareces o professor da primaria 😅
Lol, falta a cana da india, 😆
Hey Mr. Fancy shirt 😂😂
It's got to be ugliest one I had in the closet! 😆 🤣
@@MaydisLoft you look very nice and professional.
Isn’t that why they stopped the Darkening system in your because it’s an advanced just like the light system is an advance if anyone flies the natural system?
That's a good point! I think the difference is that between the natural system and the light system is still a narrow difference regarding performance, an acceptable advantage. Everyone has an option to use one or the other. Some say YB on the natural system are better OB! But the difference between natural and dark system is way different in performance with the latter having too much advantage. But the real problem is that while honest hardworking guys on the dark system could then be competing with dishonest people with birds on something bad, and it's difficult to manage integrity vs drug testing.
I wonder how other Combines that allow the dark system manage it!?
Thanks for sharing! Very informative! How do you they tell whether birds are on the dark system or not?
By their performance being out of the norm, I would think 🤔
Yes, when your birds are kicking ass, week after week.. LOL
Thank you
Thank you for sharing my friend, now I have better idea for next year…👍
Cool, maybe you can use some info, 👍, good luck
Hey sir thank you for your time and efforts ... My question to you is if my young birds season starts in June, July how can I use this light system
Back out 30 to 35 days from race 1 so you can do a good toss training program. Back out 30 days for the moult - pull the flights and lock them down for 3 weeks inside with no flying and 1 week let them out with no pressure or toss training as they'll still be finalizing regrowing the flights and start flying again. Go easy on the 1st week of toss traing. Back out 2 weeks that's when you cut the flights and shut off the 18 hours of light and they will moult. You can only use 1 week before pulling the flights. You may not have time to do a long pre-moult training, so after your birds are ranging good, use a 5 mile radius educating them on a short toss training program. You want to get a few tosses before the moult, I think it's crucial.
You will need to shorten the time window for most steps, but I think it's doable. Put it on paper backtracking. It's tight, but doable.
Where do you race that starts in June?
I am from Trinidad and Tobago where most times ybs starts at June or July depending.
I will love to talk more about this system because here in the Caribbean it is hot and I learn that the dark system will give my birds respiratory problems
Very nice video. Nice explanation of everything. That's crazy how they banned the dark system.
Yeah, I'd like to try the dark system, hopefully some day the rule changes here at CJC
@@MaydisLoft Yessir, seems like an antiquated rule for a widely accepted practice in 2023.
@jasonjordan9101 Agreed 100%, I might bring it up on the next Combine meeting
A very informative video, thanks!
Thanks for the support buddy!
Thanks for sharing sir!
Thanks for watching! Be sure to stay tuned next month! I got something different for the subscribers, fun and enticing! You don't want to miss it!
So the young birds are on 18hr of light throughout all the steps? Do you continue 18hr throughout the race season?
No, you turn off the lights to only natural light mid May. It’s at step 8 but I only mentioned it at step 9!
11:00 Pull 9th & 10th, & Lockdown - Step 9
If he is a not a champ why should we follow. Just asking
Then don't follow buddy, no champ here!