Yeah, they way underestimated it. I’m on stock turbo right now with just a dp and fuel pump on my 340. It’s ~490 to wheels on OTS flex fuel map This thing with a hybrid turbo and custom tune is 550-620 to the wheels easily lmao
@3Pedal_ Accord lol the funny part was when Sam asked "so it makes about 500 uhh BRAKE HP?" Instead of at least asking something relevant like crank or wheel.
Went for spin in Abdul’s 340i that day and man that thing makes insane torque, way more than the stock GTR. Thoroughly impressed! The torque figure stated is definitely misquoted. Also what people often forget is that a hybrid turbo may not make much more peak horsepower but the powerband (area under the dyno curve) is way better!
B58 is not even close to being a Legend, you mean a 2JZ, RB26, VR38, those are true legends. You don't see no 2000 hp to 3,500 hp engines out of a B58. Talking bout 6 Cylinders only. Come on man, Lmao.
@@Charlie589 Why you have to make all that power to be legendary? With a simple tune, and down pipe, the M340i makes about 500hp. That’s all I need for a car like that. No need to blow your motor and rebuild it to make a point. Respect all engines capable of making reliable power.
@@socalmrt B58 is not legendary, it's the baby out of the 6 cylinders with a fast shifting gearbox, that's cause it's all new technology that's why. 2JZ, RB26 that's like 30 year old technology still notorious out there. VR38 that's like 15 year old technology still the baddest 6 cylinders out there, B58 compares nothing to it, only with new technology that's all. Imagine if Nissan or Toyota came up with newer motors and gearboxes, that's game over!
@@Charlie589 If the 2JZ is so bad ass, which I do agree when built, why wasn’t it used in the new Supra? Or some variation out of that engine? Emissions play a big roll these days. That’s why all the tech is involved in today’s engines. Almost 400hp stock and still getting 30+ mpg on the highway. The B58 engine is very good. You can’t deny it. I’ve had Two Evos 4G63 and 4B11T 4 cylinder engines and no where near as efficient as the B58 engine. Again, I’m not knocking on any of those engines.
@@Youcallthesebagels_ daaang my guy…that was almost a week ago, you still shook about the 340? 🤣 You are comparing a 100k+ sports car to a 40k sedan 🤦🏻♂️ …” if ” a bicycle were running the same power the 🚲 would teleport, what’s your point? “Fact” of this video is that particular GTR got humbled. PERIOD. You can talk “ if’s ” all day…why can’t people just stick to the subject at hand?
@@shabanajannik2600 if you listen he says 480 to 500whp excuse me...either way with that setup he's 640 to the wheels not 500. That GTR with power train loss is making just about 497 or so to the wheels.no where close to being a fair race.
@@akazi1582I’d say 600+ wheel. I can make 480+ on stock turbo. Hybrid turbo with just fuel pump and down pipe can get you close to 700 whp with the right tune
GTR's are still very relevant performance wise especially in the streets, mile events, and drag racing events. Things still dominate the TX2K events along with the Lambo's.
Why do people keep saying that BMW under rates their power ? Power is NOT something that is rated, MOVIES are rated, rating are opinions/ veiw-points. Power is measured..by anyone that has the tools like a dyno-meter.
My 340i has a downpipe, pure800 turbo, TU HPFP and a couple of minor supporting mods. It made 551 wheel at E30 on a mustang Dyno at 2700ft elevation after hours of messing on the Dyno with hot IAT's. I'd be surprised if he only made 500, as others mentioned.
So no one is going to mention the fact that he say's that this is a 2009 GTR, not a 2018. The 2009 has 480HP at the crank. I'm pretty sure that a 2018 would have made the race alot closer. *edit.. my bad, I had to listen harder when he mentioned 2009.. he says, "has been in the market since 2009". I stand corrected.. lol. Yes the Bimmer is quick.
I would love to see what a tuned gtr would run against that b58..tuned to around the same hp,just to improve the PowerBand. EVEN though This b58makes less power ,it just seems to have a better overall PowerBand than the gtr
As a BMW owner myself I’m proud that BMW is winning however this BMW has more HP than stated for sure or the GTR has lost its power somehow. No way in hell with less HP and only 100 lbs less that BMW can beat the GTR just like that.
At first I was wondering how a tuned 340 would be that fast. Come to find out it has upgraded turbos. And with the higher flowing fuel pump my guess is it's running some e85. It all makes sense now lol.
Love this race. At this point though, I think that 340i is pretty maxed out power wise? I know the owner has his car dialed in pretty good - curious what Abdul thinks is left to get out of the engine to push even more out of the B58 on stock internals. This GTR is bone stock with an absolute mountain of bolt on performance upgrade possibilities + tune. Seeing the R35 stock hang in there, was still cool. Good stuff Sam!
Far from it actually, b58 can handle well over 700whp on stock block, just go watch 1fastf30, he did 9s 1/4 mile, and b58 are very reliable even when modded
The 340 is definitely not maxed out with that setup. I have a 340i with his exact setup and I am currently at 623 whp. The difference is fuel used. I have an e50 tune and a 93oct tune which the 93 puts me at 500 whp. If I add port injection I am easily at 700plus whp on stock internals. The GTR is awesome though!
🤣🤣🤣 not even close, this 340i is not even in the 100 fastest 340i out there, many 340i b58 running high 9s on stock engine and stock Transmission with just PI and custom tuned, if u think this is fast, wait till you about the mrnohesib58 gang
@@chrismacandrew9692 tf are you talking about wasting money? That gtr was made for track and it would annihilate that bmw on any track. "I wasted my money" lmao suuuure kid
@@jponz85 its a shit car on track.. its only fast with all the electronics driving for you, its a boat without them. i.e its crap on track, its a boat unless you let the a.i drive for you which is not the point of a track car. also the gtr pricetag is the m4 pricetag, not this one ;) ~salty tears~
4:45, shaking of the head that is all... That Bimmer makes some serious power ...prob more than is advertised based on the pulling on each gear... Don't forget that GTR has a DCT...
The 340i is a crazy tuning platform and it's a great daily but if you've ever been in or around a GTR it's so much cooler and feels a lot more special. The 340i is so obtainable compared to a $100k car though and if it's anything like the E92 335i's, you'll be able to one 10-12 years for a quarter of the original price
True man, where I am the depreciation on the euro stuff is pretty bad, starts off twice the price of a corolla, ends up half the price & not many people want to buy it
@@dood4623 I actually like the rwd's, traction can become an issue but they're fun to drive, I definitely would've bought an r34 gtr if I knew the price was gonna go so stupid though ffs lol
B58 just out performs everything, like wtf is up with that car man, I know the 340i is tuned but apparently it's very cheap to tune and get ridiculous power out of that thing. That GTR is already over 120k at least, and to get beat by some B58 with just a couple mods is insane, I know the gtr would win if it's modded too but than that's like a 200k at that point. For the money, B58 triumph
B58 are beast. They beat pretty much everything, but their biggest nemesis are Vr30's. Those Infinitis make a lot of power with a few mods too and you see them walking a lot of 340s. The other is that 5 cylinder Audi TTs & RS3's. But, that Gtr never had a chance. It's nice to see this, as long as that Gtr doesn't get modded, they are guaranteed to make 2000 ponnies
@@Sneezeaddicts there are plenty of engine platforms that have greater potential than the B58. It's s matter of how much you wish to spend. B58 and Vr30 are just cost effective to get decent power gains. If you have the money there are many engine platforms to trounce them. A popular one is the Ford & shelby coyote & predator engines Before you say it. I run BMW and Mercedes myself. I own a B58 and an N54. I'm not hating on them at all. Just calling it a it is.
I think bmw made the b58 way too powerfully much less with tune, it's out performing everything it competes with so much that it's going up against much higher competition and even then it's walking them, let's not forget that gtr is well over a 100k and they need alot of $$$ in mods to make them faster too. And gtr's always seem to run into problems when tuned, on carwow, throttle house all the tuned gtr always have some problems..
I’m stage two with a downpipe making 420 whp 456wtq. If u have upgradeee fuel pump and hybrid turbos, above 500whp even without ethanol mix. With ethanol u can easily push 600 Whp with. His setup. But yea b58 is a beast for the price point. And stage 3 xhp tcu tube flash is a must when pushing over 450 Whp on zf8, so I’m pretty sure he might have that, if not he should.
Those are pretty much the same numbers that i was making on my 16 340i with mhd stage 2 on 91 dp and injen intake i did blow the turbo to smitherines though haha. Then sold it and bought a 2016 lexus gsf then sold that and got a 2021 charger hellcat redeye sold that cause it landed me in jail now im in a 2021 civic type r lol. My 340 was fun because it was the base model so it was a complete sleeper minus the vorsteiner 20 inch wheels with 295 on rear
@@StevenSVT ya of course those 1800hp+ gtrs are usually the price of supercars... cool but cheap crap. Im a fan of Japanese culture/art. I appreciate their cars and watches but man people put the gtr like its some god tier car. Its fun its fast but its pre crap in person.
Second race you can really see the weight difference come into play. If he wants to win either massive weight reduction from the car or upgrade engine +trune
Yeah but you’re comparing apples to oranges my dude, you can get that year/model bmw and tune for for around 30-35k all set and done, you need easily over 100k on the cheap to get the gtr to beat a car that cost almost 4 times less, that’s what you’re failing to see here lol
@@frankcastle1578 except that the GTR is a way better car and won't be a one trick pony. GTR could do drag racing one weekend and set 9 sec passes with minimal mods and go destroy cars the next weekend all day on a circuit course m
I wish he said what turbo he was running, he said hybrid so I’m thinking probably a pure 800? If so, that’s really impressive performance he’s getting out of that thing.
I know owner of that bmw, he always have really fast cars, I remember his Honda cvt was shocking everyone here, no surprise his b58 is super fast too, felt bad for gtr owner though , man look sad, don’t be bro it’s all fun man
@@Youcallthesebagels_ and for every M4 there's 5 million Nissan's. It lost it's cool factor (for me) because Nissan has been building on the same platform for 14 years. Why should I get more excited about seeing a 2022 GTR than a 2008 GTR? To put this in better perspective, my nephew was 4yo when the GTR debuted. He's in college now, lol.
I love 340i’s but a turbo kit+down pipe+fuel pump+tune is much more than just a “tuned 340i” lol. You’re taking a 4 second 0-60 awd car and giving it probably 200 extra horsepower and even more torque, and it’s not going to struggle to put the power down because x drive is phenomenal from a dig. There are very few cars on the market that could beat that 340i while being completely stock. We all know how awesome GTR’s are, if you did these same mods to it, there’s .01% of cars that could beat it and the ones that could would not be street cars, they’d be drag rigs with slicks and race fuel. Just a little perspective, really awesome 340i but I think it’s a little out of context if you ask me. I’ve seen people getting 700+ horsepower with those mods on the newer M340i, even more if they’re running ethanol or meth.
Is the b58 reliable? Looking into getting one specifically a RWD 2020 model but don’t want to get into it and regret down the road. I plan on driving it daily btw
Some didn’t say the truth here .. I respect the new inline BMW engine but most people knows the performance of that engine well at what stage can beat the gtr !
First of all, the BMW isn’t “just tuned” as you implied on the opener. It’s essentially full bolt on, upgraded turbo and tuned. The GTR is completely stock. Also you say the GTR is more HP, but you compare manufacturers claimed HP (which is always crank) and then compare it to the BMW’s current HP, which is WHP and is 500…. Which puts that BMW at clearly ahead at about 575 if you add in the 15% drive train loss. Lastly the beemer is lighter. Props to the BMW, they tune out nicely, but let’s be honest if you just do a tune on the GTR, some intakes and a downpipe/midpipe the GTR drives out of that 340i’s life for good. Bottom line is, same mods on a GTR (hybrid turbos) we are talking 850-900whp not 500 lol
@@DQ333 well, I paid 111k for my 2020 GTR Brand new off the lot, what’s an M3 or M4 comp xdrive hitting for now? 104-105? I mean if you wanna compare apples to apples?? Point is, the ceiling is higher on the GTR, and there’s plenty of 9-10 sec Q50’s and q60’s if you wanna talk about pricing of cars, I didn’t make this video tho, it’s dumb because everyone knows that stock to stock or mod for mod the GTR is in a whole other galaxy than a fake m3. As for the Tesla drivetrain in other cars, Throtle put one in a Z, shit is slow
lol just take the K and chill :-D GTR s are tunerd and running lambo's and you all feel boss and prais yourselfs upon how cheap it is and with the right mods it kicks ass, well same thing here TAKE THE L!!! the new M4 makes soup of it anyways as STOCK , the M5 CS spankes it closed eyes
Stock turbo 340, stage 2+ makes around 470 hp. On E40 around 530 / 540 HP. (Not whp). Hybrid makes it around 500 whp. Guess they are talking about whp. I'm pretty sure a stock turbo on e40 would give the GTR a run for its money
who Wouldnt love a GTR? when you see one of these in person, I can tell you, they are Something Special and they Standout... theres a dead serious, beefy, brawny, "I will eat you alive" vibe that these GTR's have and it comes from the capabilities and long history.
No XHP on the bimmer ? And he didn’t mention the tune he has it has to be a custom tune. And no I wouldn’t take the GTR because I don’t take cars just because of their names but for performance and power, to choose the GTR over the 340 and lose every race is foolish.
He listed reasons why he'd take a GTR over that car, also the BMW isn't stock. Throw some simple mods on the GTR with e85 and a tune, and the race is completely different.
The races with Tuned car do not interest me at all. Even if I had any interest no information about the tune specs are provided. The heads up stock races are outstanding
That BMW making much more power than driver let on. And I suspect it has multiple map settings, he dialed in the aggressive one. It is definitely a tuned sleeper.
@@billygarrick4811 GTR is bone stock. It was performing to the best it could. That BMW is just a faster car. If you follow the channel the owner Abdul is known for having cars with tunes that do well. His CVT tuned Civic totally out ran many higher horse power cars even BMWs. He got a knack for getting the most out of engines.
People need to realize that GTR's were considered super car killers 10 years ago when a common super car were running low 11's in the 1/4 mile. That was 10 years ago, now low 11's are common for saloons straight from the factory. GTR's never caught up to the competition as time went on and just stayed the same. I don't know why people are shocked that a tuned b58 with d/p's and a hybrid turbo inched out a win over a stock GTR. They're not as quick as most people think in stock form, it's a 15 year platform.
Having spent some time in a stock GTR on a track, I highly doubt the BMW stands much of a chance on a road course. The GTR has immense traction, especially pulling out of a high speed corner.
@@colinstafford1015 Well yes, all GTR's were made to be track cars, so it was a shock to the car community when the r35 came out, that it was so quick in a straight line also. It's no comparison between the two on a track. BMW stop caring about track cars and driving experience a while ago and seem to only care about acceleration numbers.
Hey Sam I don’t think you should do the intro like that. It kind of ruins the surprise factor of who wins. I like to be surprised like as a fan think about it if a random person sees the intro they’ll watch that and be like BMW won and click off right away! Anyways love the content and thanks for always being consistent
The Bmw driver could have gone even faster with the sunroof closed.No way the 340i is making 480hp he is pushing at least 550-575hp,has a hybrid turbo plus high flow fuel pump and wouldn't be surprised even ethanol injection to go that fast.
This isn't a "tuned" 340i. It has Pure Turbos, is my guess. The fastest "tuned" 340s are barely cracking 120mph in the 1/4. This GTR runs 126+. Misleading title.
This is a troll video. The owner is lying about what power the car makes or doesn't know how much power the car is actually making. 640+ Wheel Horsepower. It's simply NOT possible to walk a stock GTR especially on a roll without making at least 550 wheel horsepower.
The guy with the tuned BMW 340i is clearly lying about the actual horsepower that the car makes that’s why he gave an approximate figure of 480-500hp. Based on the performance that car is making well over 600hp
Crazy 340i but a GTR is a GTR.
Buy it, Sam. Life is too short to be hesitant, especially if you're capable of buying it.
And but is a but
Said a Nissan fan boy lol
It is. Crap..
Still nissan
The 340i makes way more than 500 hp if it has an upgraded turbo and flex fuel lmao. 500 if achievable w just dp and tune on e mix
I think bmw makes 500hp to the wheels. So around 590 crank hp
Yeah, they way underestimated it. I’m on stock turbo right now with just a dp and fuel pump on my 340. It’s ~490 to wheels on OTS flex fuel map
This thing with a hybrid turbo and custom tune is 550-620 to the wheels easily lmao
Jes but the GTR is Stock
100% agree lol. When i heard 500 w those mods i was like 🧐
@3Pedal_ Accord lol the funny part was when Sam asked "so it makes about 500 uhh BRAKE HP?" Instead of at least asking something relevant like crank or wheel.
Im a BMW Technician and those B58’s even stock are insane I love driving the tuned ones
I️ love B58 so much I️ have 2
@@bitcoochie4093 Ha when things brake you are gonna be broke twice LOL.🤣🤣🤣
@@cammgt3rs3701 is leased the other is under warranty… Also the correct word is break* not brake
@@cammgt3rs370 ?
@@danielionanov5620 I posted that because he said he has 2 B58s.
The B58 engine is the new 2JZ, brilliant engine
Went for spin in Abdul’s 340i that day and man that thing makes insane torque, way more than the stock GTR. Thoroughly impressed! The torque figure stated is definitely misquoted. Also what people often forget is that a hybrid turbo may not make much more peak horsepower but the powerband (area under the dyno curve) is way better!
I wasn't expecting the outcome but wow! That B58 is a legend. Tuned or not. I'm happy with my purchase.
B58 is not even close to being a Legend, you mean a 2JZ, RB26, VR38, those are true legends. You don't see no 2000 hp to 3,500 hp engines out of a B58. Talking bout 6 Cylinders only. Come on man, Lmao.
@@Charlie589 Why you have to make all that power to be legendary? With a simple tune, and down pipe, the M340i makes about 500hp. That’s all I need for a car like that. No need to blow your motor and rebuild it to make a point. Respect all engines capable of making reliable power.
@@socalmrt B58 is not legendary, it's the baby out of the 6 cylinders with a fast shifting gearbox, that's cause it's all new technology that's why. 2JZ, RB26 that's like 30 year old technology still notorious out
there. VR38 that's like 15 year old technology still the baddest 6 cylinders out there, B58 compares nothing to it, only with new technology that's all. Imagine if Nissan or Toyota came up with newer motors and gearboxes, that's game over!
@@Charlie589 If the 2JZ is so bad ass, which I do agree when built, why wasn’t it used in the new Supra? Or some variation out of that engine? Emissions play a big roll these days. That’s why all the tech is involved in today’s engines. Almost 400hp stock and still getting 30+ mpg on the highway. The B58 engine is very good. You can’t deny it. I’ve had Two Evos 4G63 and 4B11T 4 cylinder engines and no where near as efficient as the B58 engine. Again, I’m not knocking on any of those engines.
@@Charlie589 Dude relax. ☠️
My guy did it all with the tilt sunroof 😈 Savage!
ayooo 🤣🤣
And Still just a bland 3 series lol. I’ll take the gtr please
Guy also lied about his power, if they were running the same power gtr would walk away
@@Youcallthesebagels_ daaang my guy…that was almost a week ago, you still shook about the 340? 🤣 You are comparing a 100k+ sports car to a 40k sedan 🤦🏻♂️ …” if ” a bicycle were running the same power the 🚲 would teleport, what’s your point? “Fact” of this video is that particular GTR got humbled. PERIOD. You can talk “ if’s ” all day…why can’t people just stick to the subject at hand?
He’s definitely lying about the power lol
No way is that making 500 hp. Sam you need to start requesting Dyno sheets as proof. On modified cars of course.
Tuned 340s are OD.
@@roozevelt21 he don’t know about them. Lol
Stay hurt lol
1oo% ... That car is making way more then the GTR. To pull away like that is insane power. But props to the GTR
500 to the wheels seems like a better estimate here.
GTR still holding up after 14 years of essentially the same platform.
and - I'd still take a gtr over the dime a dozen BMW products...
@@07wrxtr1 Exactly
14 years later and they increase the price I'm sure R&D has been covered by now.
14yrs for the competition to catch up and yet it's still holding up with old technology. If it ain't broke don't fix.
The Bmw is making 640 to the wheels with that setup maybe more...not 450 like he said.
If he's not running Ethanol at all he should he making around 530 hp on the crank. Not whp. With Ethanol deffo 500 wheel
Man said 500hp, where yall hearing 450..too much old people
@@shabanajannik2600 if you listen he says 480 to 500whp excuse me...either way with that setup he's 640 to the wheels not 500. That GTR with power train loss is making just about 497 or so to the wheels.no where close to being a fair race.
hes on pump gas so i doubt hes making that much in the video
@@mattsmith7379 exactly lol I see these hybrid turbos at every meet they make high 500s on pump and mid 600s on E
So basically this is what a tuned supra GR B58 motor will do to a GTR.
Sam, I never thought a 3 series would be able to outrun a GTR?? 🧐Anything is possible with the right Tuning.😎. That BMW probably has closer to 600HP
550 realistically
@@akazi1582I’d say 600+ wheel. I can make 480+ on stock turbo. Hybrid turbo with just fuel pump and down pipe can get you close to 700 whp with the right tune
@@akazi1582actually your right more like 550+ on 93. Assumed he was running a blend
That BM has way more power then stated!! Fair play it’s crazy quick but still prefer the GTR.
GTR is now a relic Man.
GTR's are still very relevant performance wise especially in the streets, mile events, and drag racing events. Things still dominate the TX2K events along with the Lambo's.
@@dalisobanda5575 if a GTR is now a relic then what's the point of lying about his hp just to win to prove what?
I'm thinking the BMW is wheel HP not flywheel HP.
Why do people keep saying that BMW under rates their power ? Power is NOT something that is rated, MOVIES are rated, rating are opinions/ veiw-points. Power is measured..by anyone that has the tools like a dyno-meter.
My 340i has a downpipe, pure800 turbo, TU HPFP and a couple of minor supporting mods. It made 551 wheel at E30 on a mustang Dyno at 2700ft elevation after hours of messing on the Dyno with hot IAT's.
I'd be surprised if he only made 500, as others mentioned.
I didn't believe any of that mess either. It's more horsepower than what he's saying.
So no one is going to mention the fact that he say's that this is a 2009 GTR, not a 2018. The 2009 has 480HP at the crank. I'm pretty sure that a 2018 would have made the race alot closer. *edit.. my bad, I had to listen harder when he mentioned 2009.. he says, "has been in the market since 2009". I stand corrected.. lol. Yes the Bimmer is quick.
Go to 2:00 Min.
He displayed that it is 2018 GTR.
its new one lmao
I would love to see what a tuned gtr would run against that b58..tuned to around the same hp,just to improve the PowerBand. EVEN though This b58makes less power ,it just seems to have a better overall PowerBand than the gtr
Thats the whole thing. That 340 doesnt make 500 bhp. Its more. Maybe whp.
@@zatilla it’s on 93, it makes 500 whp on 93 buddy.. it also on hybrid turbos
Nissan gtr34 was lats good nissan
Why not compare something more in the GTR's weight and price range.. like a m5 comp
A tuned FBO GTR will smoke it
We need some of that tuned vr30 vs b58 action on this channel!
b58 on top
@@zaid.5739 would be a good race though, mod for mod they make a good race
@@ivanq9643 i agree
It was in the background in the beginning of the video
Because Nissan only has the Q50, Q60 VR30 and the new Nissan Z
As a BMW owner myself I’m proud that BMW is winning however this BMW has more HP than stated for sure or the GTR has lost its power somehow. No way in hell with less HP and only 100 lbs less that BMW can beat the GTR just like that.
The gtr driver adds 200kg extr
That gtr is the facelifted 2017 model, you can tell by front bumper and updated interior
It is, HP jus a number in specific rpm most important the power curve, and how to maintain that power throughout the gears, and how to be delivered.
@@tanthaman don’t forget about the bmw drivers weight…
At the end of the day, gtr should have won easily if the power numbers shown were correct.
That BMW is knocking on 10's in the 1/4 if not already there! Insane!
I ran 10.6 in my 340 with just hybrid turbo, downpipe and fuel pump it’s def there
At first I was wondering how a tuned 340 would be that fast. Come to find out it has upgraded turbos. And with the higher flowing fuel pump my guess is it's running some e85. It all makes sense now lol.
It has one turbo only
Love this race. At this point though, I think that 340i is pretty maxed out power wise? I know the owner has his car dialed in pretty good - curious what Abdul thinks is left to get out of the engine to push even more out of the B58 on stock internals. This GTR is bone stock with an absolute mountain of bolt on performance upgrade possibilities + tune. Seeing the R35 stock hang in there, was still cool. Good stuff Sam!
I think with just a few mods on the gtr it would be wayyy closer with the bmw it wasn’t too far behind on the rolls
Far from it actually, b58 can handle well over 700whp on stock block, just go watch 1fastf30, he did 9s 1/4 mile, and b58 are very reliable even when modded
The 340 is definitely not maxed out with that setup. I have a 340i with his exact setup and I am currently at 623 whp. The difference is fuel used. I have an e50 tune and a 93oct tune which the 93 puts me at 500 whp. If I add port injection I am easily at 700plus whp on stock internals. The GTR is awesome though!
🤣🤣🤣 not even close, this 340i is not even in the 100 fastest 340i out there, many 340i b58 running high 9s on stock engine and stock Transmission with just PI and custom tuned, if u think this is fast, wait till you about the mrnohesib58 gang
@@darrenwebster8054 lol if you want to compare fastest BMW 340 to the fastest R35 just remember the R35 record is 6.51 seconds in the quarter mile.
With the sunroof cracked, just flexin.
Would like to see the r35 with dp, on E, would be another story🔥
With all the mods on the BMW, it's still less expensive than the GTR. You can see the "Man I wasted my money" look on the owner's face.
@@chrismacandrew9692 tf are you talking about wasting money? That gtr was made for track and it would annihilate that bmw on any track. "I wasted my money" lmao suuuure kid
@@jponz85 suddenly a gtr isn't a drag car anymore when they lose huh...🤣🤣🤣
@@niecefooker997 Yea any excuse right! 🤣
@@jponz85 its a shit car on track.. its only fast with all the electronics driving for you, its a boat without them. i.e its crap on track, its a boat unless you let the a.i drive for you which is not the point of a track car. also the gtr pricetag is the m4 pricetag, not this one ;) ~salty tears~
Guys its an upgraded turbo B58 lol this is expected vs bone stock GTR.
Lol he lied about the hp numbers it’s making more than 500hp
That B58 is a monster of an engine and I am surprised how well that 340i performed against the GTR.
4:45, shaking of the head that is all... That Bimmer makes some serious power ...prob more than is advertised based on the pulling on each gear... Don't forget that GTR has a DCT...
the new BMW AWD models are just crazy fast
The 340i is a crazy tuning platform and it's a great daily but if you've ever been in or around a GTR it's so much cooler and feels a lot more special. The 340i is so obtainable compared to a $100k car though and if it's anything like the E92 335i's, you'll be able to one 10-12 years for a quarter of the original price
True man, where I am the depreciation on the euro stuff is pretty bad, starts off twice the price of a corolla, ends up half the price & not many people want to buy it
Yeah r35 gtrs really do feel special when you drive them. The 3 series is very sterile and no soul.
I'd actually suggest the opposite and say the R35 GTR is nothing more than a Japanese Veyron, fast but no character. Give me a R34 any day of the week
@@dood4623 I actually like the rwd's, traction can become an issue but they're fun to drive, I definitely would've bought an r34 gtr if I knew the price was gonna go so stupid though ffs lol
B58 just out performs everything, like wtf is up with that car man, I know the 340i is tuned but apparently it's very cheap to tune and get ridiculous power out of that thing. That GTR is already over 120k at least, and to get beat by some B58 with just a couple mods is insane, I know the gtr would win if it's modded too but than that's like a 200k at that point. For the money, B58 triumph
The B58 is solid but this race doesn’t make the GTR irrelevant. The GTR would take it on a track where all areas of performance are exploited.
It’s also a 2009 GTR which makes less power vs the 2018.
The GTR platform has greater overall power potential as well.
There are GTRs out there making 2000+ hp.
The B58 isn't anywhere near that yet
B58 are beast. They beat pretty much everything, but their biggest nemesis are Vr30's. Those Infinitis make a lot of power with a few mods too and you see them walking a lot of 340s. The other is that 5 cylinder Audi TTs & RS3's. But, that Gtr never had a chance. It's nice to see this, as long as that Gtr doesn't get modded, they are guaranteed to make 2000 ponnies
@@Sneezeaddicts there are plenty of engine platforms that have greater potential than the B58. It's s matter of how much you wish to spend.
B58 and Vr30 are just cost effective to get decent power gains.
If you have the money there are many engine platforms to trounce them.
A popular one is the Ford & shelby coyote & predator engines
Before you say it.
I run BMW and Mercedes myself. I own a B58 and an N54. I'm not hating on them at all. Just calling it a it is.
Wow and the BMW forgot it’s sunroof ajar and yea that also plays a role in drag!!
Sam, I have to hand it to ya. I love when the owner thinks he can do better 😂
Couldn't really hear what mods the BmW had, but was it a downpipe, tune, and an upgraded turbo?
i heard hybrid turbos.....
i bet the hp numbers of the bmw are to wheels not the flywheel.
@@willnav its most likely a little over 500whp depending on fuel he's using.
I think bmw made the b58 way too powerfully much less with tune, it's out performing everything it competes with so much that it's going up against much higher competition and even then it's walking them, let's not forget that gtr is well over a 100k and they need alot of $$$ in mods to make them faster too. And gtr's always seem to run into problems when tuned, on carwow, throttle house all the tuned gtr always have some problems..
I have a Tuned FBO GTR, no issues… I think across the pond they have issues… I don’t see that state side
It has to do with 1500+ hp GTRs. Thats when you run into problems
@@blade643 no lol , more like passing 800whp
R35 will lap 30 times faster than the 340 tho
That door to door action hit different💪🏾
I’m stage two with a downpipe making 420 whp 456wtq. If u have upgradeee fuel pump and hybrid turbos, above 500whp even without ethanol mix. With ethanol u can easily push 600 Whp with. His setup. But yea b58 is a beast for the price point. And stage 3 xhp tcu tube flash is a must when pushing over 450 Whp on zf8, so I’m pretty sure he might have that, if not he should.
Those are pretty much the same numbers that i was making on my 16 340i with mhd stage 2 on 91 dp and injen intake i did blow the turbo to smitherines though haha.
Then sold it and bought a 2016 lexus gsf then sold that and got a 2021 charger hellcat redeye sold that cause it landed me in jail now im in a 2021 civic type r lol. My 340 was fun because it was the base model so it was a complete sleeper minus the vorsteiner 20 inch wheels with 295 on rear
5:28 make sure your in drive mode! Duh 😂 maybe he meant spot
Why are these bmws so fast 😂
340i look will aged better than r35 and 4 doors ..
Thumps up for the B58...this engine deserves accolades , stock or tuned, it's Mawe!
WHAT THA HELL ‼️JUST A TUNED ‼️🔥👌🏾
Not surprised with the B58 having an upgrade Turbo and Tuned. But GTR will always be bmw's Daddy
Daddy? How lol😂
@@stefanfreestylez I believe he is referring to the modified monster GTR’s that you can search online that make 3000hp that are basically untouchable
@@StevenSVT Unusable HP.. gotta love people chasing big numbers to make up for small penis's.
@@StevenSVT ya of course those 1800hp+ gtrs are usually the price of supercars... cool but cheap crap. Im a fan of Japanese culture/art. I appreciate their cars and watches but man people put the gtr like its some god tier car. Its fun its fast but its pre crap in person.
I kind of feel sorry for the GTR driver as it seems like the car loses in every video 😂 but hey at least he owns an amazing overall dream car
I mean you can make any car faster than a gtr if you just put enough power in it
I agree
He should tune it and come back and show them what Godzilla looks like
It’s stock GTR lol that Beamer will blow up later in if that Beamer was stock idk what it is going to be left like crickets 🤣
@@KeithJay707 b58 don't blow, yall car people?
He needs to mod that shit and come back
Oh men, this should be good. But the title makes me take that gtr lost terribly
The little 340i that could.
Omg the way the BMW went like a bullet in roll race 1🤯😲😲
Second race you can really see the weight difference come into play. If he wants to win either massive weight reduction from the car or upgrade engine +trune
Yeah but you’re comparing apples to oranges my dude, you can get that year/model bmw and tune for for around 30-35k all set and done, you need easily over 100k on the cheap to get the gtr to beat a car that cost almost 4 times less, that’s what you’re failing to see here lol
@@frankcastle1578 except that the GTR is a way better car and won't be a one trick pony. GTR could do drag racing one weekend and set 9 sec passes with minimal mods and go destroy cars the next weekend all day on a circuit course m
To be honest you need 2 drivers who weigh around the same as it does make a difference. Great video though. I'd still rather have the gtr though 💯
I wish he said what turbo he was running, he said hybrid so I’m thinking probably a pure 800? If so, that’s really impressive performance he’s getting out of that thing.
What aftermarket tuner measures power numbers in BHP? Most will advertise using WHP. BMW power number has to be in WHP.
That BMW makes 500 at the wheels. It's a hybrid turbo.
As soon as I saw the numbers, I knew it was more than just a tune on the BMW. Seems like that hybrid turbo is the way to go, very responsive.
I know owner of that bmw, he always have really fast cars, I remember his Honda cvt was shocking everyone here, no surprise his b58 is super fast too, felt bad for gtr owner though , man look sad, don’t be bro it’s all fun man
Who’s the owner? Does he have Insta? Great build.
@@SkiMaskSavage_ the_batmobile0.4
Nice Video! What mount did you use for your car in top? Ty
The 340i take off on the first roll race is crazy. 500bhp is cap, even 500whp is cap
I used to be a GTR fanboy back when they first appeared... in 2008... 14 YEARS ago. Now I'm about as excited to see one as I am an Altima.
A GTR is a GTR even 60 years from now. That thing is still capable of beating current performance cars
@@SamCarLegion Oh I'm not doubting it's performance. I'm just saying for me personally, it's lost its cool factor. Still one beast of a machine tho.
@@psI6 how did it lose its cool factor. It’s still a rare car lol. For every gtr there’s like a million bmws.
@@Youcallthesebagels_ and for every M4 there's 5 million Nissan's. It lost it's cool factor (for me) because Nissan has been building on the same platform for 14 years. Why should I get more excited about seeing a 2022 GTR than a 2008 GTR? To put this in better perspective, my nephew was 4yo when the GTR debuted. He's in college now, lol.
I love 340i’s but a turbo kit+down pipe+fuel pump+tune is much more than just a “tuned 340i” lol. You’re taking a 4 second 0-60 awd car and giving it probably 200 extra horsepower and even more torque, and it’s not going to struggle to put the power down because x drive is phenomenal from a dig. There are very few cars on the market that could beat that 340i while being completely stock. We all know how awesome GTR’s are, if you did these same mods to it, there’s .01% of cars that could beat it and the ones that could would not be street cars, they’d be drag rigs with slicks and race fuel. Just a little perspective, really awesome 340i but I think it’s a little out of context if you ask me. I’ve seen people getting 700+ horsepower with those mods on the newer M340i, even more if they’re running ethanol or meth.
Is the b58 reliable? Looking into getting one specifically a RWD 2020 model but don’t want to get into it and regret down the road. I plan on driving it daily btw
Yeah they're gonna put em in Lexus. So toyota's vouching for them in reliability
Wow a full tune car with less weight is faster than a stock car unbelievable....
🤣
It should be no surprise by now that the B58 is so good. The S58 is going to be blowing more minds very soon.....
B58 really is the modern day 2JZ.
How much hp does that BMW make? 700?
550-600
Why dnt u have timing gear draggy or somethin?
Some didn’t say the truth here ..
I respect the new inline BMW engine but most people knows the performance of that engine well at what stage can beat the gtr !
First of all, the BMW isn’t “just tuned” as you implied on the opener. It’s essentially full bolt on, upgraded turbo and tuned. The GTR is completely stock. Also you say the GTR is more HP, but you compare manufacturers claimed HP (which is always crank) and then compare it to the BMW’s current HP, which is WHP and is 500…. Which puts that BMW at clearly ahead at about 575 if you add in the 15% drive train loss.
Lastly the beemer is lighter.
Props to the BMW, they tune out nicely, but let’s be honest if you just do a tune on the GTR, some intakes and a downpipe/midpipe the GTR drives out of that 340i’s life for good.
Bottom line is, same mods on a GTR (hybrid turbos) we are talking 850-900whp not 500 lol
GTR is how much? Heck, for that price, you can put a Tesla drivetrain into the BMW
@@DQ333 well, I paid 111k for my 2020
GTR Brand new off the lot, what’s an M3 or M4 comp xdrive hitting for now? 104-105? I mean if you wanna compare apples to apples?? Point is, the ceiling is higher on the GTR, and there’s plenty of 9-10 sec Q50’s and q60’s if you wanna talk about pricing of cars, I didn’t make this video tho, it’s dumb because everyone knows that stock to stock or mod for mod the GTR is in a whole other galaxy than a fake m3. As for the Tesla drivetrain in other cars, Throtle put one in a Z, shit is slow
@@Superdimensional you’re 💯 if the gtr had those same mods it would destroy that bmw
lol just take the K and chill :-D GTR s are tunerd and running lambo's and you all feel boss and prais yourselfs upon how cheap it is and with the right mods it kicks ass, well same thing here TAKE THE L!!! the new M4 makes soup of it anyways as STOCK , the M5 CS spankes it closed eyes
@@Superdimensional the gtr gets spanked by a stock m5 comp....so what's ur point?? An it loses to an m4 comp from a dig....pathetic
Stock turbo 340, stage 2+ makes around 470 hp. On E40 around 530 / 540 HP. (Not whp).
Hybrid makes it around 500 whp. Guess they are talking about whp.
I'm pretty sure a stock turbo on e40 would give the GTR a run for its money
340i probably makes 470-500 whp on pump 91/93 gas . On e it should be making up towards 600whp . And in this video I’m sure the 340i is on no E
They're lying about the BMW stats. Has way more than 500 BHP
who Wouldnt love a GTR? when you see one of these in person, I can tell you, they are Something Special and they Standout... theres a dead serious, beefy, brawny, "I will eat you alive" vibe that these GTR's have and it comes from the capabilities and long history.
I would still buy a GTR
8:12, Sam is obviously GTR hard-core fan. I don't blame you 👏🤣
I am no lies
I don't know if it's fast here because the surrounding environment has an optical illusion effect that makes the car look slow.
So the lighter modified vehicle beats the heavier stock vehicle. This is spectacular ground breaking news.
And 340i had sunroof on tilt so it could have been even faster lol 😂
Check the compression on the GTR there’s something wrong with it. Do a tune on the GTR and bring it back again.
Dude definitely went to acg after this one and came out with 1000+ to make sure it doesn’t happen again
Bms are pretty good now no doubt, next up tuned r35 vs stock 340?
Tuned- software remap/retune
Modified - bigger turbo, bolt on parts ect
When did people start calling full bolt on mods ‘Tuned’ wtf
No XHP on the bimmer ? And he didn’t mention the tune he has it has to be a custom tune. And no I wouldn’t take the GTR because I don’t take cars just because of their names but for performance and power, to choose the GTR over the 340 and lose every race is foolish.
He has a hybrid turbo. It's a custom tune.
He listed reasons why he'd take a GTR over that car, also the BMW isn't stock. Throw some simple mods on the GTR with e85 and a tune, and the race is completely different.
Wow, didn't think that would happen to the GTR, just shows how they much they need to refresh that thing
Tuned vs stock😂
To be fair GTR should compete with m4 comp
@@bman1668 I agree, an m4 vs gtr would be a good run
The races with Tuned car do not interest me at all. Even if I had any interest no information about the tune specs are provided. The heads up stock races are outstanding
A stock 340i wouldn't stand a chance.
With a hybrid turbo a B58 gen 1 should make over 650hp easily
I would take a M4/M5 over a GTR. This is 2022 man, the only GTR's that people care about are R34's.
That BMW making much more power than driver let on. And I suspect it has multiple map settings, he dialed in the aggressive one. It is definitely a tuned sleeper.
Agree 💯. Either that or gtr not performing as it should or combination of both.
@@retsehcnamdetinu1672 gtr are known to have problems, maybe it was cutting power
@@billygarrick4811 GTR is bone stock. It was performing to the best it could. That BMW is just a faster car. If you follow the channel the owner Abdul is known for having cars with tunes that do well. His CVT tuned Civic totally out ran many higher horse power cars even BMWs. He got a knack for getting the most out of engines.
it´s very easy to say, BMW engines are on a other level.
Powerful
The Japanese prove otherwise, RB26 & 2JZ are bulletproof & can easily be modified to 1000hp, tune that GTR & it will destroy the Beemer
@@russell3436 can't forget the 4g63....just saying😁
Lmao are you on drugs? BMW engines are on another level? Do your homework and come back and comment on here.
People need to realize that GTR's were considered super car killers 10 years ago when a common super car were running low 11's in the 1/4 mile. That was 10 years ago, now low 11's are common for saloons straight from the factory. GTR's never caught up to the competition as time went on and just stayed the same. I don't know why people are shocked that a tuned b58 with d/p's and a hybrid turbo inched out a win over a stock GTR. They're not as quick as most people think in stock form, it's a 15 year platform.
Having spent some time in a stock GTR on a track, I highly doubt the BMW stands much of a chance on a road course. The GTR has immense traction, especially pulling out of a high speed corner.
@@colinstafford1015 Well yes, all GTR's were made to be track cars, so it was a shock to the car community when the r35 came out, that it was so quick in a straight line also. It's no comparison between the two on a track. BMW stop caring about track cars and driving experience a while ago and seem to only care about acceleration numbers.
@@colinstafford1015 m5 comp completely destroys the gtr frtom a dig from a roll....an on the track....
@@djzulumask2138 2 equally set up cars, the GTR wins everytime.
@@colinstafford1015 there is nothing to setup on an m5 comp….stock vs stock…the gtr gets destroyed in every catergory…0-60,1/4 mile,trap speed…etc
Where do you race ?
Beemer is clearly 50-75 more bhp and torque to pull on the gtr like that
Hey Sam I don’t think you should do the intro like that. It kind of ruins the surprise factor of who wins. I like to be surprised like as a fan think about it if a random person sees the intro they’ll watch that and be like BMW won and click off right away! Anyways love the content and thanks for always being consistent
Them B58 aren't joke, you will be humiliated
Yea that 340 is definitely making more than 500hp to be gapping a gtr like that ....where do you guys get the info from ?
The Bmw driver could have gone even faster with the sunroof closed.No way the 340i is making 480hp he is pushing at least 550-575hp,has a hybrid turbo plus high flow fuel pump and wouldn't be surprised even ethanol injection to go that fast.
Methanol injection. Ethanol is blended into most gasoline already.
That probably 500whp. 🤣
Even that is understated, this is probably more like 550-600whp lol
@@ivanq9643 on e50 more like 650 lol these guys are clueless
@@brandonUwanawich954 damn was this guy on a blend?? Yeah this guy clearly lied on his numbers lol
340i wow...that ride pulls harder than a ninth grader. Nice match up, respects to the 340i, but like you Sam, I'd still take the GTR.
Pulls harder than a 9th grader? sus at its finest
Bruh
This isn't a "tuned" 340i. It has Pure Turbos, is my guess. The fastest "tuned" 340s are barely cracking 120mph in the 1/4. This GTR runs 126+. Misleading title.
Never seen a GTR get destroyed so badly but then again it is stock nonetheless good race 🙃
Gtrs are slow stock….they get destroyed all the time…..only modified gtrs are quick…
Consider yourself lucky that you didn't met a 2000hp GTR (available on UA-cam)
Suggestion please add speed odometer view in your videos
Nice race. However, in the first roll race, the BMW was slightly ahead of the GTR
This is a troll video. The owner is lying about what power the car makes or doesn't know how much power the car is actually making. 640+ Wheel Horsepower. It's simply NOT possible to walk a stock GTR especially on a roll without making at least 550 wheel horsepower.
this b58 launch control is better than DCT launch control
The guy with the tuned BMW 340i is clearly lying about the actual horsepower that the car makes that’s why he gave an approximate figure of 480-500hp. Based on the performance that car is making well over 600hp
thats just a stock gtr, you don't need much on a b58 to beat one, just catless dp, hpfp upgrade and e30 blend will be enough just on stock turbo.
More like 580-600whp on b58 if it has pure800 turbos.