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This was an excellent review! It covered a lot of little things that I've not found in any other reviews. Currently have a 2019 Odyssey and i have to say the driving experience in this car is second to none. The power is phenomenal for ANY vehicle ... never mind a van. HOWEVER ... I absolutely HATE HATE the look of the Odyssey ... have never liked it from day one. (it was my wifes choice) Since I want a SUV but the wife insists on getting yet ANOTHER minivan (sigh) the look of the Carnival is the closest thing to an SUV as any other mini van out there. The only thing (for me) that is the big advantage of the Odyssey is the resale value and I must admit that's a biggee. The famed reliability of the Odyssey was not the case for us cause we've had just as much problems with it as any other car we've owned.
Agreed. We own a 20 EX-L and besides the issues with our stereo system which still haven't been resolved after almost 5 years an 100K miles, reliability has been great. We spent at least 3 months hard, looking into each minivan, and at the time, we really wanted the Sienna on the outgoing body. But after EVERY Toyota dealership we went to in the 75 mile radius all treating us like crap, and then finally getting to drive one (that was on less than 15 miles-to-empty) we went with the Odyssey. The middle seats, even the jump seat, is insanely comfortable. The seats move side-to-side and can all be removed which is a huge plus for 3 kids, along with the stadium style seating they brought back from decades ago. My biggest issues with this thing is the HVAC system and how outdated things feel, even when it was only a couple years old for the refresh. The HVAC system takes YEARS to get warm in the cold on auto, and even longer in the summer to cool down. The vents aren't in the greatest of spots, and the airflow is mainly coming from the front, and more like the feeling of an overhead air valve on a plane, than any real feeling in the back. It gets drafty in the cold, even at 74/75 degrees, and same in the summer when it feels like 66 isn't catching up (since new). And the tech in this thing feels worse than my 2018 Crosstrek I finally traded in as my daily. And that's saying something since they aren't keen on updating either. I love that Kia includes some super cool and convenient features and great HVAC systems in their vehicles, but at the resale and possibility of having to wait months for replacement engines and repairs, I don't think I'll go with the Kia this time around either. As much as we like it. I was truly hoping for them to do something like the 2.0t in the Accord and hybrid it up like they did in the CR-V but still keep the performance of the Accord like usual. But that's clearly not coming for another year or 2. AWD would be great, but at that point we can just hop in our truck.
I reviewed both cars and did a test drive myself and, without a doubt, I'd choose Odyssey. Kia has a bit more features, but Honda wins for overall ride, comfort, and handling and obviously the value for the money.
Practically the same besides the new upgraded ones with 2n row passengers where the Odyssey is poor, and the Kia is marginal. Simply search either one of these vans and IIHS and it's the video that has all 4 minivans on the cover.
@path8817 good info for folks who don't know, though when doing comparisons and assigning scores like this video does, factoring in these safety ratings seems important, especially for a family mover minivan. Cheers
Interesting to see this comparison. We just bought a 2025 Honda Odyssey Sport (in Canada) over the 2025 Kia Carnival LX+ a few weeks ago. We were coming from a 2004 Toyota Sienna LE8 that we had involuntarily totaled off in a fender bender. A Sienna was off the table as the wait times were 8 months for FWD and 2 years(!) for AWD. To us, it felt like Kia threw features at you like spaghetti at a wall, hoping it would stick. The Odyssey, in contrast, felt like a more refined experience. I really thought we would end up on the Carnival given invoice pricing and preponderance of feature. However, Kia wanted a $10K premium above and beyond which made it an easy decision to get the Odyssey with its leather seats, sunroof,rear seat entertainment and power lift gate which the Carnival did not have in its trim. I really like the Odyssey's digital/analog combination intrument cluster, not repurposing the climate/audio controls and using actual buttons for the climate controls rather than touch sensitive panel. I had watched your individual reviews of the 2025 Odyssey and 2025 Carnival and found them to be much better overviews of the features than I got at the dealerships! 😀
We went with an odyssey as well coming from a 2013 odyssey that we put 320k miles on. It still ran just fine when we sold it but we were ready for a new vehicle. The reliability of Hondas made it a no brainer for us. Honda and Toyota are more reserved when it comes to adding new features making sure they are fully refined and problem free before release which explains why they have less features for the money.
Given that the Carnival's engines are prone to needing full replacements, with those taking 3-6 months or longer to get in, while most dealerships don't offer courtesy vehicles, I'd take my chances with staying with an Odyssey.
Will Kia carnival be introducing an AWD option in the future? Also, in cold-weather regions like Indiana, Chicago, Minnesota, would it be problematic not to have AWD? Can you provide some guidance?
Great video! Thank you!!! I've been waiting for the new Honda to come out and was debating between going with these two vehicles. I can't thank you enough for comparing every angle to make my decision even easier!!! Thank you!!!!
@CarConfections great video!. been reading up way too much about Carnival these past few months so already felt it was the winner but nice to see this. Personally feel the Kia could've won extra points on the ceiling vents since that's a big pain point for the Odyssey especially if you have little kids in car seats. Would love if you guys could do a night review for the Carnival! Given the updated front lights, I'm curious how you would compare the non-SX Prestige trims to the 2024 models that had a "Poor" rating for visibility. thanks!
Odyssey... all the way, by far the finest Maxi Van made. The 10-speed transmission is just incredible and unrivaled by any other manufacturer. It looks very nice on the outside but I would avoid the Kia for resell value alone. Also there's just no comparison the Honda engine is so much more refined and dependable in the long run.
I recently rented the Honda for 8 days and about 750 miles. I strongly disliked the push button transmission, I never got used to it. You have to think about what to do every-single-time you use it. The memory seat was a pain, I had to push the seat memory button every time I started the van, and even then it never went to the correct position. Maybe there was something in the owner’s manual about how to use it, but Enterprise Rental conveniently left it out of the glove box. I thought, “but hey, it has a V-6!” When I got home and first drove my Toyota Highlander Hybrid (which “only” has a four cylinder) I was shocked about how much quicker it felt, probably because of the electric motor assist. There was no comparison, unless you really need the room get a 3-row SUV. (IMO)
8 days are not enough to get used to the shifter. That being said, once you get used to the buttons, you can’t go back to the traditional shifter for the exact reason you dislike it. You can push the buttons without looking down.
I loved my Element, but the Odyssey has had issues. My computer kept messing up. Had guidlines after I shifted out of reverse back into drive. Sometimes the rear camera wouldnt switch off at all. Then all my dash lights flashed and my transmission wouldnt shift. Scared the crap out of my kids. Didnt know if we'd make it home. Unfortunately the mechanic never listened, replaced other parts and the problems continued.
How did you gets skip over the autonomous driving feature of the kia carnival sxp prestige? That is a huge feature, self drives almost like a Tesla. That's a BIG feature....
Kia does not offer an autonomous driving system or any kind of hands-free right now. HDA 2.0 is excellent driver assistance but it still requires the driver's participation at all times.
@@CarConfections you only have to touch the steering wheel every 30 seconds to 1 minute, otherwise its hands free. its still a great feature to compare and mention
Question for minivan customers. How important is it to have the built in rear entertainment system? I feel like nowadays everyone has iPads and fire tablets so it may not be as big of a necessity as it used to. But let me know if I’m wrong.
@@mrgurulittle7000 safe as in the well rounded choice. It does everything well. Theres no category bmw falls behind in vs other brands. No other brand is going to be nearly as well rounded and balanced in all aspects like bmw
@@naveenthemachineBMW makes solid and well engineered engines and trannys. It’s the electronics that are the problem. Also the plastic bits that they use such as the plastic oil pan and other engine bits are what breaks. I wish they were more reliable because there are several BMW that are in my wishlist.
Looking at slightly used kia carnival vs honda odyssey. Current prices makes a used Kia thousands cheaper than a used Honda. Im leaning towards Kia for affordability.
Test drove both the 2025 Honda Odyssey elite and 2025 Kia hybrid SX. Really wanted to to get the Kia but after test driving both - I thought the elite felt more quiet like wind noise and maybe less firm. So, I'm not sure anymore. Also, the back seats are easier to move around in the Honda. It just seems like the Honda is a little bit more well built.
Honda and Toyota are very comfortable with their position in the market that don't provide any innovation in any area like infotainment, security, driving and others. I would never buy a 90' look car because it will rest for 20 years. Usually, people change their vehicle in 5 years. Lol..
I’d get the Kia, since it looks a lot nicer, also super practical, also has a V6, and is actual newer while the Honda feels outdated and ancient inside. Nothing wrong with that, but if I want the odyssey, I’d get a good, low miles, 2-4 yearused one that’s basically the same.
I am a long time Odyssey fan but 2025 model really disappointed me: no 360 camera view, no heads up display, no hybrid option. Odyssey is taking it for granted. Sienna has all those plus awd and super high mpg. I wish there was a Sienna V6 hybrid, or Odyssey with V6 hybrid plus the missing features.
What part of "2025 Kia Carnival vs. 2025 Honda Odyssey" suggests that? We have a separate comparison Sienna and Carnival on the channel if you want to check that out 👍
Something must have glitched… I wish I had taken a screen shot… the video I was watching was only about the Carnival but the title was the “vs.”. I’m seeing it again now and yes, it’s a comparison… Thanks!
Honda looks dated in and out. This is no different than the one made in 2015. The front looks dated as well, like they didn't even try. The designers for the Honda all went on vacation. So they chose to use the same design as the 2020 model.
Although it’s still no real comparison, you didn’t mention the tailgate mode of the rear seat of the odyssey; they can be locked in a chair configuration facing out the back for tailgating!
For kia to make more sales they had to make it look fancy, but I'm driving a 2019 Honda odyssey elite due to reliability, better resale, and parts and services are cheaper then kia because all kia parts will have to come from Korea.
I know you gave points to that dash and infotainment system, but the fact that it's all one screen is both ugly, and horribly impractical if it breaks in my mind. You lose infotainment, speed, and cabin control if that goes out? Horrible design. Also you failed the mention removable seats. In these trims, Honda wins with total space due to removable seats. Otherwise good video! Reliability and resale value won out for me but the Kia does have a great product.
I’m shocked at all the things you value as minor (0.5 point) vs major (1 point) differences. The magic slide feels like a 2 point feature improvement but you only give 0.5 point. Also, families would not benefit from the Kia VIP seating but you casually chuck on another 0.5 for Kia for have that option.
I prefer the Honda Odyssey hands down in terms of style and comfort it's very Acura like if Acura added a minivan to it lineup. So I'm definitely picking the odyssey.❤
When Chinese cars can be sold in the United States, the prices of these two cars will be reduced by $20,000. Are you sure they are good? It’s not that you don’t have more choices!
@ drivetrain wise no it isn’t. Honda has the least amount of engine failures of any brand. They have the most strict quality control when it comes to building engines and they are the largest engine manufacturer in the world so it’s not a myth rather than fact. As a whole the Honda isn’t the most reliable vehicle but drivetrain truly is
@@brokeboy87 Hyundai and Kia are still struggling and I’d say they’re just average. Most people don’t realize they still use a lot of cheap plastics and rubber in hidden parts. That’s how they save on costs. That’s the trade-off for their fancy interior.
Honda needs to do a major redesign of the Odyssey Minivan. The Side Profile (Lightening Bolt) of the Odyssey is horrible and the tiny rear bumper is laughable! The Kia Carnival is more attractive truck like side view. The Front Clip on the Kia is BAD! The Kia Rear Clip is OK. Honda needs to take the like of the Pilot and Passport and slap them onto the Odyssey, this would dramatically improve the styling of the Odyssey and improve consumer acceptance.
Can Honda make this not look like a floating turd on wheels? It just looks dated. Trying to convince my wife to go van over SUV and she only likes the Kia because it looks nice. I would prefer the reliability of the Honda and that proven V6.
They have the same utility and also drive similarly. You can make the point about reliability but there's no need to pretend the Odyssey does anything special over the Carnival. Cuz it doesn't.
@@victreebel170 They don’t have the same utility. The Carnival centre console is terrible. And the magic slide seats are #1 all time for transporting lots of kids. Which is why people buy vans. Not to mention the tailgating couch off the trunk. And yeah you must not understand driving dynamics if you think they drive similarly. The Carnival is a boat.
@@TheBMurdaCarnival doesn't have the hot garbage transmissions of the Honda and has far more usable cargo capacity. Although I do prefer having the Honda people drive up the price of the old Honda junk and keep down the price of the Carnival.
@@PaulDo22 incorrect bullshit, the Honda uses the 10 speed which is widely considered among the best on the market. You can stop talking about the 9 speed which was discontinued almost 5 years ago any time. Also, far more usable cargo capacity? lol.
@@TheBMurda Yeah now it does. For years they didn't. They aren't bullet proof. Honda has its issues. But I'll let you pay for their overpriced platform.
Honda and Toyota are soooo boring!!!! They just rely on their reputations for reliability and do nothing in terms of taking aesthetic risks, innovating or improving!!!! My phat ebony donk deserves better!!!! Miss my hot and sexy yams with that Honda mess boo boo!!!!!!!
@@markkropf8295 Except AWD does nothing for winter traction. It's a common misconception. Winter tires are the solution you are looking for and you'll think it's AWD with how well they work.
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This was an excellent review! It covered a lot of little things that I've not found in any other reviews. Currently have a 2019 Odyssey and i have to say the driving experience in this car is second to none. The power is phenomenal for ANY vehicle ... never mind a van. HOWEVER ... I absolutely HATE HATE the look of the Odyssey ... have never liked it from day one. (it was my wifes choice) Since I want a SUV but the wife insists on getting yet ANOTHER minivan (sigh) the look of the Carnival is the closest thing to an SUV as any other mini van out there. The only thing (for me) that is the big advantage of the Odyssey is the resale value and I must admit that's a biggee. The famed reliability of the Odyssey was not the case for us cause we've had just as much problems with it as any other car we've owned.
Agreed. We own a 20 EX-L and besides the issues with our stereo system which still haven't been resolved after almost 5 years an 100K miles, reliability has been great. We spent at least 3 months hard, looking into each minivan, and at the time, we really wanted the Sienna on the outgoing body. But after EVERY Toyota dealership we went to in the 75 mile radius all treating us like crap, and then finally getting to drive one (that was on less than 15 miles-to-empty) we went with the Odyssey. The middle seats, even the jump seat, is insanely comfortable. The seats move side-to-side and can all be removed which is a huge plus for 3 kids, along with the stadium style seating they brought back from decades ago.
My biggest issues with this thing is the HVAC system and how outdated things feel, even when it was only a couple years old for the refresh. The HVAC system takes YEARS to get warm in the cold on auto, and even longer in the summer to cool down. The vents aren't in the greatest of spots, and the airflow is mainly coming from the front, and more like the feeling of an overhead air valve on a plane, than any real feeling in the back. It gets drafty in the cold, even at 74/75 degrees, and same in the summer when it feels like 66 isn't catching up (since new). And the tech in this thing feels worse than my 2018 Crosstrek I finally traded in as my daily. And that's saying something since they aren't keen on updating either.
I love that Kia includes some super cool and convenient features and great HVAC systems in their vehicles, but at the resale and possibility of having to wait months for replacement engines and repairs, I don't think I'll go with the Kia this time around either. As much as we like it. I was truly hoping for them to do something like the 2.0t in the Accord and hybrid it up like they did in the CR-V but still keep the performance of the Accord like usual. But that's clearly not coming for another year or 2. AWD would be great, but at that point we can just hop in our truck.
Kia is truthfully stepping up there game, I hope the reliability jumps up too
there = their
Not yet
@@MapleGX550there reliability has gotten somewhat better from being ranked near the bottom to now in the middle of the pack.
Carnival reliability is rated higher.
I'm been buying kia's for 10 years and I've never had a reliability issue with any of them. I don't even know where that's coming from.
I reviewed both cars and did a test drive myself and, without a doubt, I'd choose Odyssey. Kia has a bit more features, but Honda wins for overall ride, comfort, and handling and obviously the value for the money.
No way is The Odyssey a better value for the money. The features matter.
I've had the kia Carnival since 2022 and honestly you can't even compare. Kia Carnival all the way!!!
reliability has left the chat
Excellent comparison, Carnival for me!
I wish you would cover safety and crash test ratings.
Practically the same besides the new upgraded ones with 2n row passengers where the Odyssey is poor, and the Kia is marginal. Simply search either one of these vans and IIHS and it's the video that has all 4 minivans on the cover.
@path8817 good info for folks who don't know, though when doing comparisons and assigning scores like this video does, factoring in these safety ratings seems important, especially for a family mover minivan. Cheers
Interesting to see this comparison. We just bought a 2025 Honda Odyssey Sport (in Canada) over the 2025 Kia Carnival LX+ a few weeks ago.
We were coming from a 2004 Toyota Sienna LE8 that we had involuntarily totaled off in a fender bender.
A Sienna was off the table as the wait times were 8 months for FWD and 2 years(!) for AWD.
To us, it felt like Kia threw features at you like spaghetti at a wall, hoping it would stick.
The Odyssey, in contrast, felt like a more refined experience.
I really thought we would end up on the Carnival given invoice pricing and preponderance of feature.
However, Kia wanted a $10K premium above and beyond which made it an easy decision to get the Odyssey with its leather seats, sunroof,rear seat entertainment and power lift gate which the Carnival did not have in its trim.
I really like the Odyssey's digital/analog combination intrument cluster, not repurposing the climate/audio controls and using actual buttons for the climate controls rather than touch sensitive panel.
I had watched your individual reviews of the 2025 Odyssey and 2025 Carnival and found them to be much better overviews of the features than I got at the dealerships!
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We went with an odyssey as well coming from a 2013 odyssey that we put 320k miles on. It still ran just fine when we sold it but we were ready for a new vehicle. The reliability of Hondas made it a no brainer for us. Honda and Toyota are more reserved when it comes to adding new features making sure they are fully refined and problem free before release which explains why they have less features for the money.
Carnival vs Sienna please ❤
They have made a Sienna vs Carnival video
@@jenniferbrito846yes but no kia is fighting back with its hybrid.
@@jenniferbrito846 Not the '25 Sienna, the interior has signifcant changes
Sienna has a +($10k plus markup) price difference for hybrid and AWD but is losing the middle seat in the second row, which is critical to me.
Though I wouldn’t get the Kia, Honda needs to redesign this with a hybrid like yesterday!
can't afford it?
I would rather they just put 4 wheel and make the backend more flat.drive on it. I love my Odyssey 2019..
We're going with the Honda, Long-Term Reliability and Resale Value. Great review
Thanks!
I'm going with Kia on this one. It has a solid Na engine paired with an automatic transmission. This should last up until the 10-year warranty.
Given that the Carnival's engines are prone to needing full replacements, with those taking 3-6 months or longer to get in, while most dealerships don't offer courtesy vehicles, I'd take my chances with staying with an Odyssey.
@@path8817I don't know where you're getting that information from. I don't know of any carnival needing an engine replacement.
Kia is stepping up their game such a beautiful vehicle.
Will Kia carnival be introducing an AWD option in the future? Also, in cold-weather regions like Indiana, Chicago, Minnesota, would it be problematic not to have AWD? Can you provide some guidance?
carnival smokes the odyssey in almost all categories
Great video! Thank you!!! I've been waiting for the new Honda to come out and was debating between going with these two vehicles. I can't thank you enough for comparing every angle to make my decision even easier!!! Thank you!!!!
Glad we could help! Thanks for watching!
@CarConfections great video!. been reading up way too much about Carnival these past few months so already felt it was the winner but nice to see this. Personally feel the Kia could've won extra points on the ceiling vents since that's a big pain point for the Odyssey especially if you have little kids in car seats.
Would love if you guys could do a night review for the Carnival! Given the updated front lights, I'm curious how you would compare the non-SX Prestige trims to the 2024 models that had a "Poor" rating for visibility. thanks!
Odyssey... all the way, by far the finest Maxi Van made. The 10-speed transmission is just incredible and unrivaled by any other manufacturer. It looks very nice on the outside but I would avoid the Kia for resell value alone.
Also there's just no comparison the Honda engine is so much more refined and dependable in the long run.
Honda are specifically designed for their manufacturing industry in which they provide hell of money in their business owners
what
who, what? please proof read.
the kia do be looking nice though
Great comparison, I’ll take the Carnival
Odyssey looks dated and more "soccer mom" style, and for that reason my $ goes to Carnival, more sporty and modern.
Carnival❤
If Honda added more tech and hud it would beat the Kia but as always, Honda in the usa always remove things and charge more.
Been driving Odysseys since gen 1, about to replace my 2014 gen 4 with another Odyssey of course.
Drew, Matt which do you prefer Kia or Honda as you tested in this video?
I honestly think they enjoyed the Kia Carnival a lot more than the Odyssey. But they would rather not say because of the Honda fanboy bullies.
@@jraheemjefcoat429 Indeed
Ok ok in my opinion my parents are to Japan but Kia’s still looks better
nice job fellas
I recently rented the Honda for 8 days and about 750 miles. I strongly disliked the push button transmission, I never got used to it. You have to think about what to do every-single-time you use it. The memory seat was a pain, I had to push the seat memory button every time I started the van, and even then it never went to the correct position. Maybe there was something in the owner’s manual about how to use it, but Enterprise Rental conveniently left it out of the glove box. I thought, “but hey, it has a V-6!” When I got home and first drove my Toyota Highlander Hybrid (which “only” has a four cylinder) I was shocked about how much quicker it felt, probably because of the electric motor assist. There was no comparison, unless you really need the room get a 3-row SUV. (IMO)
Never had any issues with the push button transmission a have a 2017 MDX and is not hard at all I guess some people refuse to get used to it
8 days are not enough to get used to the shifter. That being said, once you get used to the buttons, you can’t go back to the traditional shifter for the exact reason you dislike it. You can push the buttons without looking down.
and for people buying them here in Canada, Carnival is $10k cheaper than the Odyssey. It is simply a no brainer.
I loved my Element, but the Odyssey has had issues. My computer kept messing up. Had guidlines after I shifted out of reverse back into drive. Sometimes the rear camera wouldnt switch off at all. Then all my dash lights flashed and my transmission wouldnt shift. Scared the crap out of my kids. Didnt know if we'd make it home. Unfortunately the mechanic never listened, replaced other parts and the problems continued.
How did you gets skip over the autonomous driving feature of the kia carnival sxp prestige? That is a huge feature, self drives almost like a Tesla. That's a BIG feature....
Kia does not offer an autonomous driving system or any kind of hands-free right now. HDA 2.0 is excellent driver assistance but it still requires the driver's participation at all times.
@@CarConfections you only have to touch the steering wheel every 30 seconds to 1 minute, otherwise its hands free. its still a great feature to compare and mention
@@Jallelab99141I have that in my 2025 K5 Ex. I love it
You didn’t really show the internal cargo capacity views with the third and second row seats folded/removed.
Question for minivan customers. How important is it to have the built in rear entertainment system? I feel like nowadays everyone has iPads and fire tablets so it may not be as big of a necessity as it used to. But let me know if I’m wrong.
It's good for road trips with friends and long drives with kids. Putting on horror movies with friends while driving was always a fun tim
I had my 24 Odyssey touring since July 2023, the kids only used the rear entertainment once😂😂😂. They prefer using their phone.
Like the new Tahoe, all car manufacturers should instead provide tablet holders in the headrest.
Also if you get the Kia make sure you check how fast the seats fly into the screen if you pull the lever.
It's worthless. They are never up to date and overpriced.
The sweet spot on both of these is the lower-mid trims. Much cheaper with way less crap in them.
You should incorporate the aspect of 2+ , 5+ years of use and what will be car conditions after use ..
Honda will be much better
I am going to purchase the Kia Carnival …
I’ll take the carnival but the odyssey is more dynamic and like the average bmw, the safe option
Average BMW isn’t safe, man.
@@mrgurulittle7000 safe as in the well rounded choice. It does everything well. Theres no category bmw falls behind in vs other brands. No other brand is going to be nearly as well rounded and balanced in all aspects like bmw
@@naveenthemachine🤔Wish BMW was more reliable.
@@mrgurulittle7000 bmw b58 and zf 8 are bulletproof afaik
@@naveenthemachineBMW makes solid and well engineered engines and trannys. It’s the electronics that are the problem. Also the plastic bits that they use such as the plastic oil pan and other engine bits are what breaks. I wish they were more reliable because there are several BMW that are in my wishlist.
Kia is more attractive than honda that looks old 😊😊😊😊😊😊
I wish both brand would quit jacking off and make awd available.
That Kia constantly sitting at the mechanics will look so much older lol
That's the only thing kia is good at. It looks good.
Looking at slightly used kia carnival vs honda odyssey. Current prices makes a used Kia thousands cheaper than a used Honda. Im leaning towards Kia for affordability.
In June 2024, a safety scandal involving the Japanese auto industry rocked the country's car manufacturers.
Reliability??!!!😂😂😂😂😂😂 my ass 😂😂😂😂😂😂😂
its always russian roulette with airbags in japanse cars
@uludak8468those recalled airbag inflators spanned the industry, what are you talking about? my dad's Toyota and my Mazda weren't affected at all
Higher reliability and resale value and just 1.5 points!? This is literally the most important factors when comparing cars. Jeez.
"Higher reliability" and resale value is a myth that Honda fans keep repeating. Those days are over.
@@Jonathan-pp3duThat’s not really a good dad joke. KIA is not even in the top 5. 😅
When it comes to minivans, Kia Carnival is always my no.1
Btw please can you review ❤Carnival and seinna ❤
Honda = past glories
Kia = new style
This carnival blew that outdated Honda Odyssey away. I know the Honda fans won't accept it but it is what it is.
I like the Kia’s center console, because Honda’s sliding door to console always gets stuck, so I think Kia prevents that.
Test drove both the 2025 Honda Odyssey elite and 2025 Kia hybrid SX. Really wanted to to get the Kia but after test driving both - I thought the elite felt more quiet like wind noise and maybe less firm. So, I'm not sure anymore. Also, the back seats are easier to move around in the Honda. It just seems like the Honda is a little bit more well built.
Reliable goes to Honda. However, the same look from 10 years ago won’t get me to the dealership. I would go with the Sienna for 50k.
Honda and Toyota are very comfortable with their position in the market that don't provide any innovation in any area like infotainment, security, driving and others. I would never buy a 90' look car because it will rest for 20 years. Usually, people change their vehicle in 5 years. Lol..
I’d get the Kia, since it looks a lot nicer, also super practical, also has a V6, and is actual newer while the Honda feels outdated and ancient inside. Nothing wrong with that, but if I want the odyssey, I’d get a good, low miles, 2-4 yearused one that’s basically the same.
I am a long time Odyssey fan but 2025 model really disappointed me: no 360 camera view, no heads up display, no hybrid option. Odyssey is taking it for granted. Sienna has all those plus awd and super high mpg. I wish there was a Sienna V6 hybrid, or Odyssey with V6 hybrid plus the missing features.
Why did you suggest in the title this was a comparison with the Sienna?
What part of "2025 Kia Carnival vs. 2025 Honda Odyssey" suggests that? We have a separate comparison Sienna and Carnival on the channel if you want to check that out 👍
Something must have glitched… I wish I had taken a screen shot… the video I was watching was only about the Carnival but the title was the “vs.”. I’m seeing it again now and yes, it’s a comparison… Thanks!
Honda looks dated in and out. This is no different than the one made in 2015. The front looks dated as well, like they didn't even try. The designers for the Honda all went on vacation. So they chose to use the same design as the 2020 model.
No word about the slash in the carnival rear quarter panel
Although it’s still no real comparison, you didn’t mention the tailgate mode of the rear seat of the odyssey; they can be locked in a chair configuration facing out the back for tailgating!
Why do ppl always talk about reliability ? When I look at used cars most are traded in at the 80k mark no matter what the make is !
Exactly.
I would rather have a mini van any day, to bad Kia got rid of the Sedona
For kia to make more sales they had to make it look fancy, but I'm driving a 2019 Honda odyssey elite due to reliability, better resale, and parts and services are cheaper then kia because all kia parts will have to come from Korea.
I know you gave points to that dash and infotainment system, but the fact that it's all one screen is both ugly, and horribly impractical if it breaks in my mind. You lose infotainment, speed, and cabin control if that goes out? Horrible design.
Also you failed the mention removable seats. In these trims, Honda wins with total space due to removable seats.
Otherwise good video! Reliability and resale value won out for me but the Kia does have a great product.
Honda will have better resell but I do like the style of the Kia
Honda is not going to have a better resale with this outdated look.
KIA all the way!
I’m shocked at all the things you value as minor (0.5 point) vs major (1 point) differences. The magic slide feels like a 2 point feature improvement but you only give 0.5 point. Also, families would not benefit from the Kia VIP seating but you casually chuck on another 0.5 for Kia for have that option.
You're allowed to mentally weight the points any way you want to
How do you know what families are going to benefit from? That's your personal view.
I prefer the Honda Odyssey hands down in terms of style and comfort it's very Acura like if Acura added a minivan to it lineup. So I'm definitely picking the odyssey.❤
Deadpool has convinced me.
When Chinese cars can be sold in the United States, the prices of these two cars will be reduced by $20,000. Are you sure they are good? It’s not that you don’t have more choices!
Kia Carnival
Honda for sure. For those saying they want the attractive one calm down it’s a minivan you want the reliable one.
Honda being more reliable is a myth.
@ drivetrain wise no it isn’t. Honda has the least amount of engine failures of any brand. They have the most strict quality control when it comes to building engines and they are the largest engine manufacturer in the world so it’s not a myth rather than fact. As a whole the Honda isn’t the most reliable vehicle but drivetrain truly is
kia carnival all the way
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Hyundai should turn the Palisade into a van like Chrysler did w/ the Pacifica
Good idea
Or at least have their own version of the Carnival. Not sure Hyundai is willing to try that again like with the Entourage.
Coming soon
Notice Kia doesn’t publish the wattage to their Bose system. Whereas Honda says 550 watts for their top trim.
You forgot that Kia offers 3 years of maintenance currently.
@@lookatthis8455 do they?
Only Hyundai and Genesis do, not Kia
Kia does everything to make the look attractive, adds a lot of tech and lights. But overall quality is really CHEAP!!!
Quality and reliability are excellent. Would take the Carnival over a Honda everyday.
You are correct the Honda is vastly superior in quality. No doubt there.
Honda vehicles are superior in every with the best mechanical packaging, design, and engines! Not even a comparison.
Kia looks better but it still needs some improvement in its unreliable powertrains.
Kia is actually average to above average in reliability. Just avoid anything with a Dct. VW still hasn't figured that one out either.
@@brokeboy87 Hyundai and Kia are still struggling and I’d say they’re just average. Most people don’t realize they still use a lot of cheap plastics and rubber in hidden parts. That’s how they save on costs. That’s the trade-off for their fancy interior.
@@MapleGX550 They have had well-publicized issues with certain engines, but they don't cheap out in the parts bin like Nissan, GM, and VW do.
@@victreebel170 you never know them.
Carnival based on available hybrid and more muscular look. I strongly dislike swoopy car styling.
The honda will keep it's value
Honda needs to do a major redesign of the Odyssey Minivan. The Side Profile (Lightening Bolt) of the Odyssey is horrible and the tiny rear bumper is laughable! The Kia Carnival is more attractive truck like side view. The Front Clip on the Kia is BAD! The Kia Rear Clip is OK. Honda needs to take the like of the Pilot and Passport and slap them onto the Odyssey, this would dramatically improve the styling of the Odyssey and improve consumer acceptance.
Like the hyundai!
HONDA HANDS DOWN!!!!!
Still no hybrid or electric van. Disappointing
Carnival has a hybrid
@@PaulDo22 oh sht. You're right. I just did more research after your message. Thanks.
What do you prefer?
No doubt the Honda is a good car, but up against the Carnival visually, its design is stale and outdated.
Can Honda make this not look like a floating turd on wheels? It just looks dated. Trying to convince my wife to go van over SUV and she only likes the Kia because it looks nice. I would prefer the reliability of the Honda and that proven V6.
Don't even hesitate, Carnival is great, reliability has been excellent. Honda is sleeping.
Both of them don't offer an awd and a hybrid option, I'll stick with the Sienna the only good Toyota they still make
One has more features and bling, one is a far better vehicle that will last, drives better and has incredible utility
They have the same utility and also drive similarly. You can make the point about reliability but there's no need to pretend the Odyssey does anything special over the Carnival. Cuz it doesn't.
@@victreebel170 They don’t have the same utility. The Carnival centre console is terrible. And the magic slide seats are #1 all time for transporting lots of kids. Which is why people buy vans. Not to mention the tailgating couch off the trunk. And yeah you must not understand driving dynamics if you think they drive similarly. The Carnival is a boat.
@@TheBMurdaCarnival doesn't have the hot garbage transmissions of the Honda and has far more usable cargo capacity. Although I do prefer having the Honda people drive up the price of the old Honda junk and keep down the price of the Carnival.
@@PaulDo22 incorrect bullshit, the Honda uses the 10 speed which is widely considered among the best on the market. You can stop talking about the 9 speed which was discontinued almost 5 years ago any time. Also, far more usable cargo capacity? lol.
@@TheBMurda Yeah now it does. For years they didn't. They aren't bullet proof. Honda has its issues. But I'll let you pay for their overpriced platform.
Honda all day long over Kia.
Not even close. Those Honda transmissions are hot garbage.
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The carnival isn't for me. I loathe engine drone up hills. V6 all day w the Odyssey. I test drove the carnival sx trim and the hud is a gimmick.
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I wish Genesis made a minivan. Honda look so bad.
Kia is no way nearer to Honda odyssey . 9/10 . Carnival 6/10
this person is bullshinting about this van
Honda is a joke with the tech
Kia steering wheel looks horrible
Odyssey is so ugly inside and out. It has aged like milk. One of the worst minivans currently. Carnival and Sienna are miles better.
no odyssey hybrid? rip honda
HONDA FOREVER!
Honda and Toyota are soooo boring!!!! They just rely on their reputations for reliability and do nothing in terms of taking aesthetic risks, innovating or improving!!!! My phat ebony donk deserves better!!!! Miss my hot and sexy yams with that Honda mess boo boo!!!!!!!
and the winner is:
Toyota Sienna
reliability over looks
not honda and toyota
Honda transmissions are notoriously unreliable.
Honda is ugly. Both need a awd option because that alone could make me choose that vehicle.
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Nobody needs an AWD minivan.
Because of winter weather. Get around on slick roads.
@@markkropf8295 Except AWD does nothing for winter traction. It's a common misconception. Winter tires are the solution you are looking for and you'll think it's AWD with how well they work.
@@PaulDo22 sorry disagree. I do agree however winter tires make a huge difference