Impact of Carnivore Diet on Gut Microbiome | The Proof clips EP 203
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I very much respect this perspective but would like to make the note that most people who are on carnivore aren’t doing it because they already feel good. Many of them first tried a plant based diet and that didn’t work or made things worse. They are suffering and desperate to try anything, even the likes of something as extreme as an all meat diet. A great majority of people aren’t thinking about how to make it to their 100th birthday, they’re thinking about how do I wake up tomorrow and feel good enough to work, good enough to take care of my family, good enough to want to keep living. As the diet wars continue may we all keep compassion for the great struggle we are all enduring everyday we wake up and realize most people are doing their best to figure this out.
@@TheProofWithSimonHill I appreciate you filling people in with the current scientific understandings knowing what the trade off might be. As someone who did Veganism for 3 years and actually stood upon your podcast with Rich Roll to back up my reasons, I can say that I was convinced that was the way, until I got injured and sick and started looking into what might be going on. I was shocked to find people thriving and healing on meat only. It kind of shook my entire foundation upon which I thought I understood dietary health. Out of desperation I’ve gone the carnivore route, being very mindful of sourcing (which is another important variable that I’m curious if the studies you quote account for). It’s too early to report on it but I will say I’m now convinced there’s a lot more to discover regarding our food. The plant world has changed so dramatically in recent decades with soil and water being compromised by chemicals and mono-cropping. I wonder if that’s partly why a lot of people aren’t doing well on plants. I guess what I’m getting at is that it seems like there are different variables in play now and perhaps future studies will unveil what’s going on here. Cause I feel like I know nothing again. I guess the last thing to do is try to listen to my body.
How was your experience with the Carnivore Diet Brian ? Thanks !
@@briansvoboda9123how are you doing now Brian? I’ve been switching between the 2 diets for some time. Neither work for me.
That is exaclty my experience. I tried everuthing from paleo yo raw food to Gaps. Nothing worked. Nothing helped with the diseases and the pain And suffering I had. People think I'm mad but I feel like I'm living again. I can do thinks I could only dream a couple of years ago. Yes, I want to live a long live but first I want to live the live I have today.
@@TheProofWithSimonHill Are you familiar with the work of Dr. Zsofia Clemmens? She has been treating a myriad of conditions with a meat/fat only diet, including cancer and autoimmune disease, and has remarkable results. She also did a study on intestinal permeability and the meat/fat diet actually lowered IP back into the normal range. In all my years working as a GI nurse with hundreds of Crohn’s and UC patients, I’ve never seen any of them heal completely and get off all medications like the patients treated by Dr. Clemmens, and all of my patients were omnivores with a heavy focus on eating fiber. Her work is very intriguing, and I’m hoping the medical community will start looking at it.
We are the only species, that dont know what we are suposed to eat.😶
Big food and big pharma need us to be confused on the matter. But many people are waking up and they do know what's best for them.
Yep. Meat and eggs
Too much obeying, too little thinking.
Actually if you look at indigenous people, they all eat the same proportions of fat, meat and carb. Basically the opposite of our food pyramid. Also they don't have any junk food, cuz you know, it hadn't been invented yet.
@@evelineyoung7709 I think we’ve learned to eat almost ANYTHING.
I've been on a 15 year journey to heal my IBS. I was raised organic vegetarian for the first 30 years of my life. I tried being vegan and gluten free for 2 years to heal my IBS, but the diarrhea never stopped. I was doing celery juice, fruit smoothies, large salads with no dressing, sweet potato, rice, about 20 supplements, etc. I finally tried carnivore 3 months ago. It's a miracle diet for me. My body is really loving it - I didn't realize how nutritionally deficient my body was. My teeth are no longer sensitive -they're actually getting whiter!! Energy is returning, I don't feel cold as often, I have 1-2 bowel movements a day instead of 4-5, lost all my excess weight, I don't wake up with a chronic sore throat anymore, etc.
@@frogsofindia ditto! I have a similar story to share
@aliazig I just think we need to check on what the human race has eaten in our evolution. And that would take us to a carnivorous diet with very few fruits and vegetables.
@@frogsofindia that is exactly the same experience I've had. I have a huge organic garden but an organic all plant approach to eating just made me sicker and sicker. I had no idea why
I don't think any proof was provided for the assumption that a long term carnivore diet would result in negative outcomes with regard to dementia, cardio vascular disease, etc.
I tend to also like the hypothesis that a damaged or very limited, low diversity gut microbiome may be the reason people do so well on carnivore. However, it seems that some people are actually thriving on carnovire and have excellent markers of health in the areas you mentioned would suffer. If we could route just a small percentage of the trillions of dollars that flows into patent medicine research, and use it instead to study human nutrition, we would be far advanced in our understanding in as little as 10 years in my opinion.
The centenarians in Loma Linde California eat mostly plant foods, and I'am a 64 years old man with a six pack and very healthy and mobile.
I've been eating a plant based diet for almost 40 years, and I'm thriving. Really.
I know it is all about the gut.
We may disagree with the definition of thriving in the long term.
There is a man in Phoenix who has started Alzheimer's homes and has gradually used more and more of a "Keto-vore" diet with his residents. The families of his residents are blown away with the cognitive improvement of their loved ones. Wish I could remember his name. He's interviewed on UA-cam by one of the carnivore people or doctors.
It is 100% clear that our ancestors did NOT eat Vegetables, fruits and CERTAINLY not grains
There is a Mormon population living near Loma Linda. Like the Adventists, they are a wealthier, close-knit religious community. They likewise avoid tobacco, alcohol, drugs, etc while following a generally healthy lifestyle and regularly seeing doctors. That is to say they have a healthy user bias. But unlike Adventists, they eat more meat like other Americans. Their health and longevity rates are about the same as the Adventists. Why do the plant-based advocates continue to dishonestly cherry pick data?
@MarmaladeINFP This goes to show how useless nutritional science is. I will take thousands of anecdotal accounts over these worthless comparisons and intellectual arguments.
Mikhaila Peterson has been carnivore for years and eliminated all her inflammation issues? Surely if it was that unhealthy she would still be experiencing joint and arthritis problems?
@@TheProofWithSimonHill
Hi Simon thanks for commenting. There is quite a lot of scientific evidence showing that red meat is not linked to heart disease, etc. - if you watch Dr Zoe Harcombe podcasts, she qualifies every comment with journal or scientific evidence, and shows that there is evidence that many plants cause toxic inflammation reactions in humans.
I had similar issues (less extreme than her's) where in my late 20ies I started to experience joint inflammation in my knees and knuckles. It went to a point where I had to stop all physical activities and work only from home. Those were very miserable couple years. I saw 10+ doctors in 3 different countries and none of them had any idea what was causing it. MRI confirmed the inflammatory state in both knees, but there was no evidence of mechanical damage (e.g. meniscus tear) that could explain the inflammation. I had noticed some link between the intensity of symptoms and what I ate that day. As a last ditch effort I decided to give carnivore diet a try. I ended up working with Paleomedicina Clinic in Hungary, since I wanted to be properly monitored. My joint problems resolved within a month and I could start exercising, hiking and MTBing again. The joints felt great, but overall carnivore diet made me feel the worse I have ever felt. I lost around 10kg in muscle mass (looked like death), had a massive drop in libido, had mood swings, electrolyte issues (intense leg cramping every evening), elevated cholesterol, worrying kidney test results, etc. Those carnivore/keto doctors couldn't find a solution for the negative symptoms I experienced. After around 4 months I had enough and started introducing carbs again. It has been 3 years since my carnivore experience. I still eat meat, but I also eat lots of vegetables, fruit, wild rice and oats. My joints feel great and I don't have any of the issues that I experienced on carnivore. It turned out that the cause behind my joint issues was histamine intolerance, which was probably caused by gut dysbiosis and that's something I'm still working on now. It wasn't that plants were bad for me or that meat was healing for, I just simply couldn't tolerate high histamine foods like fermented dairy, dark chocolate, sauerkraut, etc. My joints improved because carnivore diet forced me to eliminate those foods from my diet. Mikhaila has been very public about having a damaged gut. I believe she has even tried fecal transplants. Meat-only diet helps to manage her symptoms, but it doesn't fix the underlying issues. Hopefully over time she can find a better solution for healing her gut, or at least we can hope that the carnivore diet continues to work for her long-term. From my personal experience and from what I have heard from other former carnivores, this type of extremely restrictive diet can be very dangerous.
Ask MIKHAILA to eat a fruit she wil be in pain..thats not human optimal
I don’t trust her anecdotes after having met her.
@@ashleynoelle7429Explain.
Why not have a debate with someone like Anthony chaffee ? Too many videos of folks who agree with each other these days, where is the challenge that is needed for growth in that?
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My understanding of this is "Use carnivore diet to reset your gut, make your tight junctions sealed and then replenish good bacteria"
the bacteria thrives based on what you eat... so if you go back to eating sugar... or carbs which turn into sugar then couldn't the bad bacteria just thrive yet again?
Stay carnivore my friends.
Easier said than done. Once you start carnivore, it's easier to just stay carnivore
Once you reset your gut, why go back to eating the way that harmed your gut in the first place that required a reset? And what kind of insane thinking suggests that the meat-loving bacteria that heal your gut aren't also good bacteria?
@@MarmaladeINFP Nobody is talking about going back to eating junk food and other nasty stuff. Once your intestinal lining is fixed introduce other food containing vitamins, minerals, polyphenols, organic acids etc. Bacteria that feed on meat are important but diversity is the key. Plenty of DOI over the internet like NCBI website.
Carnivore is what is optimal for human health.
Not much evidence to support that!
@@TheProofWithSimonHill show me double blinded control trials to prove that it's not.
@@ThunderGod9182 lmfao the burden of proof is on you. You can't just state something and someone has to prove you wrong. That's like saying someone is guilty automatically and they have to prove their innocence.
@edgetransit3320 There are thousands of people who are carnivores and have healed life long heslth issues. All you have to do is look for it. It healed me. That's all the proof I need.
I agree on most of your points except for the importance of fiber. Fiber has no impact on cancer of any kind. Fiber isn't necessary for proper bowel movements. Cancer of the colon is due to the cancer virus infecting damaged colon cells. Oxidative damage from processed foods, alcohol, pharmaceuticals, anything that's not bioavailable will damage cells. Fiber can actually cause constipation instead of what conventional Medicine claims. Whereas consuming adequate amounts of animal fat will keep the colon/intestines healthy and "lubed up". Too much fat will cause diarrhea. Insufficient fat can lead to constipation. Fiber is supposed to be digested in the appendix but, the appendix is a vestigial organ.
I've been mostly carnivore the last few weeks, and my constipation while not cured is responding much better to the magnesium I use to keep things going. I don't need as much and it is more effective.
Plant base diets are failing now because the soil microbiomes have degraded to such a degree that the plants we were able to eat for good nutrition don’t exist anymore.
There's a ton of us doing great actually.
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Well, yeah you're doing better than those on the garbage SAD diet.
@@alisonlevity I wish you well.
This is a great point, but I think the bigger issue is that all the processed and added sugar foods consumed destroy the healthy functioning of our gut microbiome and body. The lack of nutrition may be a driver for craving the unhealthy high caloric and addictive options, so it is a complicated issue for sure.
We have also "domesticated" most of our food to be high calorie and therefore less nutritionally dense. So many layers to this issue.
Citation needed
To many miss the boat on natures cycles. No grocery. No refrigerators. It only makes sense that our biome will cycle.
The problem with studies is the need to find single point results. Failing to take into account seasonal effects and the flushing of things like oxalate or going thru lean meat season.
IMO our guts aren’t meant to be static but cyclical
Interesting thought.
I agree, I tend to crave foods that are in season or within limited storage time if I pay attention. We also need different things depending on the seasons.
I don't think the data supports that conclusion. People aren't just healing autoimmune diseases on carnivore, which could indeed be primarily due to eliminating certain problematic foods from their diets. But carnivores generally have greatly improved markers of inflammation even years into the diet as well, and it's chronic inflammation that leads to many of the diseases we're being overrun by.
Can you share some published data on this?
Is there published data to say this isn’t true?
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"You win Simon" -good for you. (There are no scientific studies" yet.)
Who's going to pay for that "study ?" Archer Daniels Midland? Oh, probably not.
@@TheProofWithSimonHill your video was also devoid of anything backed up by any credible published data
Eating too many carbs may defeat the purpose. It's not 'fruit' like before it was selectively bastardised. Rotate predominately carnivore diet and careful ketosis with small and sporadic challenges to insulin. Slow and low with soluble non-oxalate fibre.
I think it’s a bit difficult say long term outcomes of carnivore diet are going to be unfavorable when so many people get incredible short term benefits. We’re not talking about a drug here if the food you’re eating is benefitting you in short term you will benefit long term as well. Your body sends signals on how you should eat and to ignore that bc someone interprets these imperfect studies that vegetarians have better long term outcomes is ignorant.
Not always true. A lot of long term Carnivores develop severe electrolyte imbalances and other problems, like Dr. Saladino and Frank Tufano. One of the most profound comments I read was on one of Dr. Chaffee's videos where the guy said he was a strict orthorexic Carnivore for 15 years and then he became extremely ill with electrolytes imbalances. He said it took him several years to get better. He also mentioned when he was sick he had the dark sunken Carnivore eyes. I immediately thought of Rick Rodriguez, the "supposed" 40 year Carnivore who looks very unwell, especially around his eyes. Dr. Chaffee's also starting to get that and Kelly Hogan definitely is starting to get it too and she looks anorexic she's so thin now. Compare her videos now to a year ago.
Both Saladino and Tufano were eating massive loads of organ meats. That might've given them toxicity of vitamin A, copper, etc. Or in the case of Saladino, he seems to have been eating far too little protein for how many hours he was intensively active everyday.
There are plenty of electrolyes and other minerals in animal foods. The only reason they might get out of balance is if one isn't gettting enough taurine from fresh meat. That might a problem in the modern diet since few of us get fresh meat any more. But if so, that is easily resolved by supplementing taurine.
As for dark eyes, I haven't noticed any of the long-term carnivore advocates with that problem. Honestly, compare long-term carnivorres with long-term vegans and tell me with a straight face that carnivores don't look healthy.
@@catsrus2890 We're only now starting to understand the importance of having a diverse microbiome for immunity & long-term health. How long can a carnivore ignore their gut health?
@@brendapeter446apparently the gut microbiome is more diverse and healthier for carnivores compared to vegans. Dangerous bacteria thrive on carbs. Carnivores are known to have eliminated all gut issues from a previous life of plant eating. From a recent study of stable N15 isotopes of long bones we know that our hominid ancestors ate >80% meat as far back as 4.5 million years ago, more than any other carnivore studied! When meat was unavailable then large tubers and infrequently fruits were consumed for survival. Check recent papers. No need to guess what our proper human diet is anymore.
@@ws7001 recent papers? any links?
I have come to the realization that everybody is different. 😂 All these diets, charts, life expectancy, all of this is non-sense. I know men who used tobacco for 90 years and ate smoked meats most of their lives and hit 90. Then I know people who exercised and lived pretty balanced diets and ended up dying younger. I honestly think each body has its own needs and wants. We have too much today and that’s part of the problem. Some people eat veggies and get messed up while others can eat those same veggies and feel great. I personally will eat a portion of broccoli and proceed to drink up the whole room with my farts and my stomach kills me while others are like “ew gross man, wtf did you eat” and I respond “same thing as you”. Find what’s good for YOU.
@@TheProofWithSimonHill I need to read more it looks like. Lol Will do!
The difference is the health of one’s microbiome and stress, trauma, bad diet, sedentary, lifestyle, hygiene and genes all have a effect all can be cured if not too damaged already and with genes it can’t be cured fully but can improve exponentially
even if damaged beyond repair you can eliminate 40-70% of symptoms or put the illnesses from the dysbiosis in remission
By following those steps
Clearly you're not a fan of statistics because a vanishingly small number of men have been able to use tobacco for ninety years.
I totally agree. My body does not digest vegetables. I tried over-and-over again to be a vegetarian - My body said no. Now I'm carnivore. No colon plug ups. No gassy discharges. Each person is different and no one diet is right for everyone.
@@profd65those statistics are correlation, generally smokers embark in other lifestyle activities that aren't healthy. It's not healthy but different bodies can handle more or less stressors
CARNIVORE FOR LIFE ‼️
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The common factor in all these diets that help people feel better is eliminating the crap. That’s why the vegan feels great and the carnivore feels great.
Exactly!
And the vegan requires a multitude of supplements… 😬 .. and dies attempting to climb Mt Everest. 😰
And the vegan will be starving all day.
yet vegans by far are the ones that feel like shit years later compared to meat eaters.
Not all vegans feel great and not always for an extended period of time. I tried every food plan, giving them all one year to track progression. Low fodmap was OK, keto was OK except for massive diarrhea, vegan made me very sick, autoimmune was OK, paleo was OK, I could go on... carnivore, I felt amazing. I had cut out the junk years before and I still felt awful on vegan. Everyone thrives on what's best for them
My favourite podcast that I recommend to all my friends. Simon delivers science in an easy to understand way and helps you cut through all the science noise out there to deliver the facts. Love your work Simon. Thank you for everything you do!
Agreed.
@@TheProofWithSimonHill but simon how do i bring back vegetables and not suffer consequences??
@@TheProofWithSimonHill if god could give us a choice we wouldnt be carnvores tbh.
Just ask the Eskimos up north! They are living on fish fat, oil and meat, they are the healthiest people on earth. ....simple.
Lol, hardly. They all die young.
@@user-te5lp6su6g you are not built the same. Your can't compare with their genetic.
It's not the diversity of the microbiome, it's the balance!
Part of our problem is Westerners are largely ignorant of the larger field of nutrition studies and other evidence. It's not only that some tribes do fine on a diet heavy on animal foods. More importantly, research in Asia shows that high meat intake is strongly correlated to better health outcomes and longer lifespan. In fact, the longest lived national populations (e.g., Hong Kong) are those that eat the most meat.
Why Westerners tend to be so ignorant is likely because of the healthy user bias. In places like the US, particularly in the past, people who ate the most meat were also eating lots of starchy carbs, sugar, seed oils, etc, in which case most of their diet was likely plant foods. On top of that, those who follow such a diet were also more likely to be of low socioeconomic status, exercise little, not take supplements, smoke and drink more, not see doctors regularly, etc.
Yet in ignorance, it was the meat getting blamed. Until we have long-term research on the carnivore diet, we should remain intellectually humble or else ignorance will continue to rule public debate. It's unlikely that continued ignorance is going to improve health.
Great comment
You clearly missed the part where they did eat a lot of greens. Just not in the form you'd expect. Even the most carnivorous tribe had 15% greens intake. And they went to great lengths for it.
right the other guy already said. Asians eat tons of greens as well. ill say it again. my gf is a health coach that has literally cured hundreds of people's diabetes. gotten them off blood pressure meds etc. this was done by eating no processed foods, fruits, veggies, and meats. only eating certain weights and teaching them how much they should be eating and what they can even eat as a snack....which she says has to be meat. no carb snacks. but veggies aren't your enemies carnivors....these extreme diets are getting crazy lol.
I never said plants are enemies. But neither are they our friends. They are simply biological chemical factories. They contain toxins, antinutrients, etc that are problematic; particularly if not prepared properly and if not eaten seasonally. But they also contain beneficial molecules. Like many others on animal-based diets, I see plants mainly as medicines, flavorings, and sometimes used for processing animal foods. Still, the fact remains that all essential nutrients can be found in animal foods. That is not true of plant foods.
Even the phytonutrients in plant foods will also be found in animal foods, if the animal ate those plants. For example, pasture-raised meat not only has high levels of vitamin A but also high levels of beta-carotene, the vitamin A precursor, along with other carotenoids. This means by eating the animal foods one gets all the nutrition from plants and in its most concentrated form but without all the problematic other stuff. The animals will filter out the antinutrients and such. Cows will even break down the glyphosate.
So, tell me again why plants are supposedly essential to the human diet? Sure, if there are many pathogens in your environment, use herbs and spices that kill them. And if you're sick, then use herbal medicines when helpful. Or if you just like variety, eat plant foods in small amounts for flavor, just as long as they are picked locally and seasonally. The point is to do what humans evolved to do over millions of years. I don't need to fear plants. They are simply irrelevant, other than as feed for the animals I eat or procure food from.
By the way, 15% of the diet as plant foods is not a lot. Sure, they went to great lengths to get plant foods when animal foods, particularly the favored fatty animal foods, weren't as available. They need nutrition from somewhere.
But keep in mind that almost all hunter-gatherers today have been forced onto sub-optimal land. They've lost their prime hunting grounds and much of their best game as been driven off by encroachment, poachers, and herders.
So, with so much less high quality animal foods, it is extremelhy telling that they still manage to get 85% of their diet from animal foods. Imagine if like in the past they could obtain all the fatty meat and fish they wanted.
Dr. Natasha Campbell McBride has the science for this in her G.A.P.S nutritional protocol. She has several versions including a carnivore healing protocol to heal the gut. Please have her on the show.
Bacteria can also eat amino acids. Many animals are carnivores, and their bacteria are fine.
Carnivore animals typically have shorter life spans.
Great video. The Carnivore Diet is a great short-term elimination diet, at best. 100% agree.
It’s a great long term lifestyle actually for alot of people. Healed my gut, cleared my adhd/depression, reduced my seb derm by 80%, no more pre diabetes and gives me more energy than any other diet (I’ve tried alot in desperation). I hesitated for near 6 yrs to go full carnivore/animal based bc I too thought it may not be healthy. FALSE. Crazy since I come from eat more veggies and fruit. Nope wasnt healing me. Never been healthier now. Blood work is perfect, fat melts off, libido sky high, productive every day, no issues working out. Colon cancer and cardiovascular risk are false. That’s sugar and carbs. I’ll be eating this way for the rest of my life and millions of others feel the same.
Antibiotics in our food may be one of many contributors to gut biome dysbiosis. Has there been a study of red meat consumption with and without anyibiotics effects on the gut biome? Thanks for all your hard, deliberate efforts on our behalf.
Excellent question. My guess; no. There are so many variables in testing and diets it is absolutely dizzying. And most people dont take half of them into account. Including the so called "medical experts."
You know what, all this diet shit just make me pissed off because of all these variables. If possible, I wish I could eat a single item all my life that would guarantee me optimal health.... or even better, I wish I didn't need food to exist at all........
I was agreeing with everything you were saying but you totally lost me at your last sentence by implying meat increases risk of cardiovascular disease, bowel disease and dementia...
This sort of reminds me of educators saying “we know that school attendance is linked to school success,” and if you point out that you have been absolutely killing it in school despite lower attendance rates than people doing far worse… they just say “oh you might not have fallen behind yet- but you will!” (Cuz the “data” shows it.”)
I guess maybe we’ll worry about that when it happens… cuz maybe the data is flawed… certain data comes about than then it’s a matter of shoe-hormone everyone’s outcomes to fit the “data” rather than being willing to adjust the data… or maybe study why certain exceptions apply.
But what do I know anyway. 🤷🏼♀️🤷🏼♀️
It's surprising to me that in 2022, we still are debating healthy diets. It just seems like something was lost in our history, or some information has been deliberately withheld from us to become this ignorant of how to feed ourselves properly. Diet seems so obvious, anyone with any attunement to their bodies knows what is healthy and what is not. Perhaps the lack of grounded, attuned, body-aware people is why we are here. It's so much more complicated than it needs to be.
Our modern lifestyles are clearly not compatible to our biology, or we'd not be seeing so many preventable, avoidable health issues, early aging, males balding at 23, women infertile at 28, flabby people the vast majority in the west, dysfunction, disease.
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I believe more people need to go study the lives of the thousands of centenarians around the world, the ones who are still thriving in their nineties and beyond. What I’ve found is that they all have the exact same commonalities, no matter where in the world they are. From my research I have found that the longest living people eat little to no meat at all. We know in Asia that soy is the protein of choice, and that it is very healthy. They grow gardens, and eat a plant-rich diet. Keep their bodies moving, and have a positive outlook on life. Science literally shows that high protein diets lead to a shorter life/health span. There are actually a few groups in the world where meat is predominant in their diet, and they don’t live very long. I encourage anyone to research the lives of centenarians and see what they eat. It’s not a ribeye steak. I particularly found the Korean centenarian study quite fascinating as they expected to find low b12 levels because of their plant rich diets, but they did not. They found that they were getting b12 from a fermented soy food that they make and from seaweed. So, little to no meat and yet these people are still living alone and working their gardens at 100…
It’s sad that the meat and dairy industry has blinded people so badly to believe they need their products to be healthy when the opposite is happening. America is the biggest meat consumer and also the most unhealthy. Heart disease is the number 1 killer and yet it’s completely avoidable. I believe the powers that be, big pharma, want people sick. The amount of money made from drugs is astounding. They don’t care about peoples health. But anyone can research this for themselves. I was once duped into believing that raw milk was a superfood, and grass fed meat was the food of the gods. Until I had blood work done, and then my eyes started to open. I’m now plant-based and couldn’t be happier AND healthier 🌱😊
That’s good, what’s your main source of carbs?
That is because most people ignore the morality question. Before you do anything, ask yourself: is it moral? If it isn't or you don't know, then don't do it. So if you start with moral question first, then you eliminate 90% of the work toward finding a healthy diet and lifestyle. All the rest is tweaking. But whereas if you don't ask and answer the moral question, then you will spin your wheels for a lifetime, forever prey for all the diet gurus and snake oil salemen out there fleecing you (they eat baby lambs for their holy religion day, you think they care about how they treat those they defraud?)
Once you add antibiotics and drugs and hormones into your body, a healthy diet doesn't seem so easy anymore when you start getting intolerant to plants, breads, milk, nuts, even fruits. And medical solutions tend to me more drugs more plants. Modern environment means we need different modern approach to healing. So I believe Carnivore isn't the diet of our ancestors, but a great tool that we have in our modern environment to heal and reset the gut.
@@plants_and_wellness1574 The idea that people in Asia eat little or no meat is a weird notion. Did you get this from China Study?
Really curious about this and glad to hear it talked about, I've been unable to come off a carnivore diet without my skin going crazy ... trying probiotics now.
This could be due to the body detoxing and rebalancing. I've had similar reactions in the past. I feel great now. Consistency and optimism are key. Making big shifts can set off initial alarms. Keep up the good work. Bless.
Probiotics can make me worse, esp after you've been on a monodiet....
I also have dry, White skin. Its easy to fix - eat More organs. Iņ my case i Cook 500g beef liver and 2 days eat, all skin problems gone.
mb stay on the carnivore diet, plants are obviously toxic to you.
@@gatisdzervens3618hahahahaha. Do not do this.
dr. Chaffee says he is eating red meat only for 20 years. or do you think he is on hormone replacement therapy
ALL diets have a impact on microbiome.
During my 15 years having IBS-D other than a 100% junk food diet, I never felt worse than when on a WFPB diet. And no one will help you to actually be able to eat more plants beyond the "start low and go slow" method like what Dr. B promotes. But as someone who has tried low-fodmap and low-fermentation diets with a reintroduction phase I still have never managed to reintroduce anything I get symptoms from. I have suffered through months of trying to eat whole grains and fruit while being told it's going to get better eventually. It's so frustrating to hear that the only diet that doesn't give me symptoms (essentially paleo with the addition of lactose free dairy) is going to kill me and the only healthy diet is one that has me fantasizing about driving into a concrete wall. I understand it's because we just don't understand IBS that well at the moment but it does make people like me feel hopeless and like I might as well just do whatever and die at 80 from a heart attack because there's no help to be had.
Well, stop bowing down to these YT gurus and listen to your own body. How do YOU feel, is the question...
@@insertmyidentityhere Where did you get the "bowing down to YT gurus" from? I've never taken dietary advice from a youtube video in my life. Just because my comment is on a YT video talking about diet strategies for IBS (where I'm literally disagreeing with the video's premise btw) doesn't mean I follow any YT "guru". I'm simply talking about my experiences with the diet they're recommending so that other people with IBS might feel less alone if they happen to try it and it doesn't work for them.
@@what.the.bleep.do.i.eat. so mb try another diet
@@what.the.bleep.do.i.eat. Uh, bc you keep talking about what you “hear” about these diets on UA-cam. 🤷♀️
@@insertmyidentityhere Just because I'm watching many different videos from multiple content creators because I'm interested in health, nutrition and how things might affect my chronic illness, that does not mean I'm automatically listening to the advice given in the videos vs my real life Dr's and actual lived experience. Hearing what people have to say is not the same as doing what they say. It's not that hard to understand 🤷♀
I have been diabetic for 12 years and on insulin. I became carnivore last January 8th and I’m not diabetic anymore and I lost over 55 pounds! It works! I was on pro and prebiotics before I tried this! Why do we have good numbers from bloodwork?
I have Ulcerative Colitis, Carnivore long term isn't applicable, Short term there have been benefits, like reduction of frequency. Full blown whole food vegan diets are opposite, and makes you go a lot more often, and relieve constipation, but don't allow ulcers to heal, and even though you may have fully formed Bowel Movements, it can be accompanied with blood and mucus, I've been incorporating Sauerkraut & kimchi into my diet (Recently removed kimchi due to the Korean peppers involved and not being tolerant to spicy foods), Now I'm having Blueberry, Avocado & un-homogenized Milk Kefir Organic, with blueberries and supplements, as well as cocoa powder, glutamine and mastic gum, I started Cabbage juice today, consuming twice daily (Breakfast + Dinner) as well as once a day, some Celery Juice which is amazing stuff.
I just wish the medical industry was more on top of things, and studied what can help people with Gut dysbiosis and IBD/IBS, because they tell you it has nothing to do with diet, when I know for a fact it has an effect whether it's just an exacerbation of symptoms or if it has a bigger impact, such as the absence of certain beneficial gut bacteria that have been extinguished from Anti-biotics and other problematic environmental factors.
Life is hard, I just want to be better, and I'm trying my best, but even when you think you're doing everything you can, you're still dissuaded by what you see in the toilet. If anyone has some insight or knowledge they can offer, I'd be happy to listen.
Edit: forgot to mention blueberries in Kefir Smoothies
Consider adding Siberian pine nut oil to your regimen.
I wanted to follow-up on this comment I made a year or so ago.
In a flare up of Ulcerative Colitis, I use Carnivore as a temporary healing diet that allows for the ulcers in my colon to heal. After 2 weeks past symptoms have dissolved, I will then slowly introduce Blueberries, and progressively increase over time (up to 150g per day). After which, I'll add Dark Chocolate (70% cocoa), again, small amounts, then increase a while, roughly 50g a day. Meat will be be a large staple while increasing fiber intake.
After Blueberries, and Dark Chocolate are tolerated, I will cook Carrots (Small and work my way up again), I now have roughly 500-600g of Carrots / Sweet potatoes, each day, removing the sweet potato skin.
I've been in remission for a while now, so, I've been able to get away with a lot more than I could during a flare. I'm able to have candy, steamed Dim Sims, and other somewhat troubled foods.
I do note that Carnivore itself has it's place, but in no way can I foresee it being a long term diet. Ketosis, and Carnivore should be used as a gateway to better health, and eventually, a diet where you're getting enough fiber and healthy foods that allow for your body to function properly.
This has taken me such a long time to fine tune, and medication has been a part of that process. (Mesalamine)
After I was without symptoms, for a while, and able to eat more freely, I was scheduled for a Colonoscopy. I did not enjoy the prep work, nor did I enjoy the procedure itself. My results were Proctitis, inflammation of the rectal area only. Which is leaps and bounds difference compared to an entire colon full of inflammation. Please note that this was only with roughly 1-2 months of healing (No symptoms), and at the moment I believe I'm quite well off in terms of my health goals.
If anyone has questions, I'll be happy to answer.
You should be on the carnivore diet
@@Tysonbaxwhy do you say carnivore is not a good long term solution? Just because you get tired of it, or do you get side effects from it?
Adding S.Boulardi and spore based probiotics and nutritional yeast helps me to control my ibs
I've had untreated SIBO for almost 10 years would carnivore help?
You need to try it
@@Dendrotera1 started already. Very expensive to do it properly. Can't get access to health care in UK. Waiting another 7 months for my gastro appointment (already been waiting 4 months) and 1 year 2 months for my neurology appointment for MS. Think I'm b1 and b12 deficient but no access to discuss options. Bit fed up to be honest. 😏 My GP won't discuss anything other than big pharma.... Asked about ttfd and betaine hcl but she knows nothing about them😕
@@nowhere982 hi,still on carnivore? 🙂
@@Dendrotera1 fraid not. I was so Ill round Christmas (missed it all being in bed for 3 weeks) didnt eat at all for 5 days then had bacon butties!!! I finally got my gastro appointment but got nowhere fast....wouldnt listen to me. All I wanted was to find out if my pancreas and gall bladder were working ok as I wanted to use betaine hcl to up the stomach acid in the hopes it would help digest all that protein but he just looked at me as if I was speaking Swahili. He told me it was unlikely I had Sibo, despite positive test years ago, he said it was a positive test due to constipation.😒😪.....I have zero gut motility. No movement unless I take loads of bisocodyl. I'm so fed up with my body. I stopped carnivore just to stuff my face but I'm regretting it as I feel no better either way. Saving up to find a nutritionist as nhs is utterly useless. If I sort the motility and stomach acid problem I will return to carnivore as other aspects were better. How you doin????
@@nowhere982all you need is eggs and ground beef
I'm on the elimination diet for chronic digestive issues (SIBO, reflux, bloating) after anti-biotics and proton pump inhibitors. How to re-introduce? What to start with? I had kidney stones too, so probably low fodmap and low oxalate reintroduction would be the way?
I had similar issues. Make sure you don't have yeast overgrowth, since yeast can overgrow when you decrease bacteria in your gut since they fight for space in your gut. Avoid sugar all type be best. Low Fodmap is great for 3 months, you can add calcium rich food source to your high oxalate food. For example, you can have spinach with grass fed hard cheese. Also, if this treatment don't work for you. You can try do a water fast 7-10 days if you can tolerate it safely with electrolytes supplement. Then do a fecal transplant. Honestly it takes long time to change your gut Microbiome. Low stomach acid can also be cause of sibo, reflux and bloating too. I know i am saying a lot, but you have find root cause of your problems, then make changes and try out different things if you dont get results.
I'm on carnivore diet, day-2
Day1: I had loose stool 3times
Day2: Also the same, but bloating little reduced.
I have heavy bloating issues.
Rosacea on face, knee pain, plantar fascitis, kidney stone, icthayosis vulgaris, broken nail, constipation
@@honeydiana9128 sounds like Oxalate dumping, see: Elliot Overton
I would agree with your approach Simon. Start with fermented foods, probiotics and polyphenol rich foods. People will be sensitive at first, fermented foods are easy to utilise and assimilate without too much side effects. Although I would be inclined to suspect whole grains, cruciferous vegetables and beans tp be eliminated for as long as needed as they can be hard on the gut especially to those with impaired microbiome.
Maybe more research into enzyme nutrition would help, those lacking the enzymes to digest certain sugars and starches may benefit from enzymes initially to help offset any digestive distress. That being said, slow and steady is best strategy as Dr B says and restoring the gut takes time. I dabbled in the carnivore diet while back, started added fruit back in first then eventually greens like lettuce then berries, cucumbers and sauerkraut. Now eat 100% plant based and average 40-60 plants a week
How long did you do carnivore diet before reintroducing fruits
So you have an eating disorder & swing from one extreme to the other is what you’re saying?….🤦♀️
Love fermented foods, however, they are high is histamine and can have a disastrous effect on a large percentage of people. Vast unbiased studies confirming this, also warnings from actual manufacturers of such products regarding this, Kefir, kombucha, sauerkraut, etc
@@insertmyidentityhere
No, they are saying that their gut was messed up, which drove them to eat a restricted carnivore diet. Over time they began to add plant foods back in slowly, and gradually increased the quantity and variety of plant foods over time. This created a very diverse and healthy microbiome over time, and now that their gut is healed, they can pretty much tolerate any food, and maintain that good health by eating a very diverse plant rich diet.
People on carnivore… “man I feel great.."other people “ya but it won’t last forever."
I Love carnivore way of eating, energy, no gas, inflammation gone, it's the best. BUT I do get concerned with Dysbiosis and not being able to handle any other food when I'm traveling the world or just want to once in a while indulge. I've noticed it completely recks my stomach eating other basic whole foods now and idk if that's something I want to be constraint to for the rest of my life, so any tips and fermented ideas that can help my gut biome while still being mostly animal based are welcomed! A good balance is something I'm more open to now but not at the expense of all the pros of a low carb diet, vegetables not acceptable tho, they have always gassed me. Disagree with the risks you stated at the very end though I must say
I added sauerkraut, berries, some arugula, still cant do cruciferous veg and no desire to eat it. I do okay with squashes and eventually could add asparagus back in....
"Vegetables not acceptable" verifies you as somebody who knows nothing about human nutrition.
I have found that a big missing piece for folks is to simply chew your food very well. Digestion happens in the mouth. Start with just small portions, chew well, drink plenty of water & see how it goes.
@@profd65that was stated because of how his body reacts to them and looking to slowly build. Calm down, you don't have to half read and assume you're smarter than others
Low calorie carnivorous diet is not discussed much.i am unable to eat fiber due to colon surgery . So carnivore works . Some low fiber fruit .
I don’t know, this seems pretty unhelpful. Please, yes, warn everyone not to continue doing the thing that is helping you -because why??? ugghh….
i did atkins/carnivore for a couple of years - it helped many health conditions at first, but eventually destroyed my microbiome even more than it was before this diet. it took me years to be able to handle carbs without instant weight gain. i’ve been adding prebiotics/plant diversity recently, but i have to take it slow, since it’s causing die-off of the bad bacteria.
Animal foods don't destroy your microbiome. It simply changes it. On an animal-based diet, you'll have more microbes that eat animal foods and less that eat plant foods. The opposite happens with the vegan diet, which is why it sometimes takes them a while to adapt back to eating meat. No permanent damage is caused and the microbiome tends to shift easily.
Keto can provide the same benefit as the short chain fatty acids that are produced from fiber digestion
When I tried a vegetarian diet 5 years ago, I noticed at first some of the fiber was not being digested, and I could see it in my poop. All of my life I would see pieces of lettuce if I had a salad. After a week or two I did not see it anymore. I'm not sure if it was from buying strictly organic fruits and veggies or if the increase in diversity had fixed that issue.
This is really sad seems like we no longer know what to eat.. everything is so extreme.. not surprised with so much sugar processed foods chemicals heavy carbs gmos vegetable oils vegetables from depleted soils meat fed gmos pumped with hormones antibiotics now mRNA and chemicals to color meat to make it visually pleasing drinking and bathing in contaminated water.. then trying to cure symptoms with antibiotics steroids and meds that cause even more issues.. we need to look at other countries with a long history to see what they eat. Foods loaded with colorful seasonal vegetables and fruits, tons of herbs and spices chili probiotics (not yogurt) lots of lemon vinegar wild seafood etc Corporations and governments have too much control over our food and water. Money has become main player in every field and greed has taken over and causing confusion and chaos. Time for us all to fix the root issue. Bring back proper farming restore soil health ban chemicals organic farmers need the support more than ever. Stop buying foods from the supermarket stop buying gmos. Communities need to get together just like how our forefathers did. Diet won’t mean sht if everything’s contaminated.
What about the pesticides on plant foods and oxolates?
We "know" it "may"
The fiber not digesting is an interesting take I haven't heard of before. But about the health risks of meat: is this supporter by evidence for grass fed meat? As far as I know such studies showing increased risks relate to regular supermarket meat
Those food borne illnesses come from poo and bacteria that grow on decaying flesh. E coli, salmonella, they can grow on it all, including grass-fed. Safe handling is what matters.
Don’t forget the toxins and pesticides absorbed into the meat by what animals are fed. Just bc they’re not loaded up with antibiotics, doesn’t mean they’re not loaded up with glyphosate.
The don't have any good studies using health conscious vegans vs health conscious carnivores or paleo.
4:53 4:55 4:57 oh dear. Loving the science.
another anecdote here. carnivore was no solution for me. (sibo, dysbiosis) I would gave it more time than 4 weeks but terrible hydration/electrolyte issues no matter how much salt or water I took in had me to push the brakes. no improvement in bathroom visits also. actually made everything worse at the end of the day. in retrospect it sounds kinda silly to jump on a diet that requires a healthy and robust digestion when you lack these things in the first place. despite what carnivores tell you that meat is easy to digest it really is not. especially breaking down these long chain fatty acids like stearic acids from beef literally asks for a furnace inside your stomach.
Human stomach acid ph is similar to carnivores and scavengers, and no where close to that of herbivores.
True herbivores dont even digest fiber, they ferment , in other words, they must turn it into microscopic animals in order to extract nutrients from it. Fiber for humans is just toilet fuel. Vegans spend way too much of their lives on the crapper.
Maybe should have worked your way into that a little slower if you were that sick. No voices out there have i ever heard recommending it cold turkey like that. I hope you figure it out. and if it turns out to be a vegan diet, please let us know exactly which of the hundreds of thousands of of plants out there that helped you.
@@trentonharris7676Omad is the dumbest idea ever. Yes, let's starve ourselves & then try to cram all our food and nutrients into one meal. 🙄 I'm sure your digestive system appreciates that....
It takes longer if you start w gut issues . You should try again w more info perhaps ?
I've been procrastinating the viewing of this video, and I thought that maybe it was going to prone the carnivore diet.
I'm glad I realized it is totally congruent with my experience and knowledge as a 64 years old vegetarian for almost 40 years.
That's exactly what I think about this elimination diet and its benefits short term.
I have become well into this topic. I almost fear extinctions of ancient micro biome strains.
I am plant based and feel like I am traveling even further down that rabbit hole.
I want to 'feed the soil, not the plant' when it comes to my own nutrition.
I really hope one day we can hand pick the team we want inside us simply by choosing our foods wisely.
I can safely say my biome is mashed. it has faced everything wrong you could get, from poverty starvation to wheat and meat dominant, to food poison in foerign lands and IBS.
I am only just coming to embrace my biome and strangely, it is notions in quantum science of a conscious universe compelling me a certain way. I used to call myself vegan, now I feel simply saying it is a vow to not hurt sentience unless no choice is more accurate. we literally do not know the connections and realities we find ourselves existing in.
Even reality isnt real. the ball of fire at the center of the earth is probably, currently not even there, but a ball of quantum potential is there instead until we observe...
and consciousness in the human brain also appears to stem from the quantum.
We have also figured out at the end of entropy, this existence simply fades back into the quantum field.
It is all connected somehow. as nuts as it sounds, we must find symbiosis with the world of bacteria and virus.
hell even the fact that the sac our babies grow in... could not have existed if we did not at some point in our pre history before we became humans, a massive global pandemic of a HIV like virus, one we actually absorbed entirely (it is part of what we used to call junk DNA but cracked it. this virus gave us a main ability to procreate...
The universe is one, and we have not truly attained real intelligence till we hit the sentience singularity...
I apreciate the content. Im really struggling hard with skin issues (Sebhorreic dermatitis) and tried everything to solve it. My eating habits were not the best, im 100% sure about that. I ate a lot of processed food last couple of years. But my skin issues go back 15 years when i was still living with my parents and eating healthy. I would really like to try carnivore as an eliminiation diet and then incorporate plants again, because they are amazing. What are your suggestions regarding the elimination period and then what foods to introduce first?
You could also do an elimination diet using only starches like potato and rice. Look at Dr. McDougall's starch solution. It's another option that may be more affordable and reduce the risks associated with a highly acidic eating strategy.
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Aight, so I've had this issue all my life, pretty severe. Been to the doctors, tried the creams.. Everything. It is your immune system reacting to a fungus naturally living on your skinn. Why is it doing that? It is confused. There is something you eat that creates trouble for your digestion. After all these years I have found what works and the skinn is clear.
No gluten, no dairy what so ever.
No suggar
No tobacco
No coffee
No vegetables from the night shade family (peppers etc.)
No vegetable oils
No soy
No lectins
No eggs
Sleep 7-8 hours, not more and not less, wake up same time every day
Start intermittent fasting
Try prolonged fasting (this very powerful)
Reduce stress with start working out or at least go for walks
Reduce karbohydrats and get more of your energy from fatty meat or fatty fish.
I'm sure you'll get the same benefits on carnivore. But stay away from dairy. Make sure you get enough fat and enough salt.
That’s what I’m doing at the moment going to reintroduce foods soon
When was the last time you took Prescription Drugs. Don't guess. List the name and date taken. This seems to be one common denominator of those who use Carnivore Diet to manage autoimmune disease. Past history of Antibiotics, NAIDs, Cortisteroids, Antiacids. Mikalia and Jordan Peterson being the prime example.
What about introducing a healthy persons feces to a person on a carnivore diets colon through a fecal enema. A few days to get the communities set up, then slowly introduce plants. Also, the younger the person, the younger the bacteria from what I hear.
I'm trying carnivore right now and if my health issues go away, there is no way I'm going back to my previous diet (which was 80% vegetables and fruit). I might reintroduce stuff slowly to test it out but I'm not concern if I can't. It would be just for variety to make it less boring.
4:47 That is all bs, btw. It's all based on shitty studies to favour big food and big pharma. Do your research.
PS: Most kids do not like vegetables but most kids love meat and eggs. If you think that's just taste preference, you are too naive.
Big food broadly means animal agriculture and junk food, which are more profitable than what evidence generally points to prioritizing plant protein, whole grains > refined grains, minimizing salty foods, and plenty of fruits and vegetables. Really, none of this profits "big food".
@@TheProofWithSimonHill If you really think big food does not profit from veganism, you are too naïve. They are promoting it heavily in recent years "because CO2 is going to kill us" which is horsecrap propaganda.
Invest time on listening to dissident voices. They are often the right ones.
@@TheProofWithSimonHillum, talk with a farmer, read the farm bill. If growing crops wasn't part of big ag, it would only be happening on small scales.
highly doubtful
Where's the proof that the missing bacteria are goid for you ?
What's going to be the healthiest for you is going to be eating as close as you can to what the majority of your most recent ancestors ate, which is meat. Carnivore is king. There isn't a single macro nutrient that the human body needs that isn't in meat. Plants are full of phytochemicals that are trying to defend the plant and your body has to try and detoxify itself of. Plant protein is almost completely unavailable to us. Not to mention the protease inhibitors that block protein and nutrient absorption. Plants are trying to kill you.
Use your own brain instead of parroting Chaffee!
Try to bite into a cow? What animal cooks their food or puts it in the fridge? Humans are different, try catching a rabbit with your bare hands yea. Cat's eat grass man
Thank goodness I found the carnivore eating plan. It is the ultimate elimination diet. I get sick now whenever I try eating vegetables and fruit again. 77 years old and have been on every diet. I have done fermented foods and probiotics for years. Please realize that different diets work better for different people.
This podcast & the Simon’s Instagram posts make health science ‘palatable’ & aspirational. He makes the WHY & HOW of becoming a healthier human achievable & exciting! 🤙🏾💪🏾👍🏾
What they are saying is borne out apparently by the experience of the Maasai people who have a lifespan of about 45 years. They live on a diet of meat, milk and blood and walk on average 19km a day due to their nomadic shepherd lifestyle. ONLY 45 years and then they die.
That is absolutely not true
I found it very intrestring what the man on the right had to say. How much did he get payed? hmm
Does this change if you don't have a colon?
A lot of mucus keeps coming up. On 2nd week carnivore diet eat once a day
Great video, men!
This guy has it nailed.. Common sense
Great job with the podcast, Simon. I enjoy your interview style and appreciate the less formal conversations with Drew.
Because you talk with many experts who don't have WFPB diets, it may confuse some about your position or interpretation of the science, glad you added this clip, it provided excellent clarification.
Simon didn’t deliver any science here.
He showed his bias to carnivore which he speaks highly of here, then he show his bias by need and trying to reintroduce plants. 😂 look into Dr Paul Saladino/CarnivoreMD and learn of his reintroduction of honey & fruit and raw dairy.
Our bodies are such that if chew a non toxic plant or animal who is in its natural form and not genetically tempered with or modified or given chemicals we thrive, diet is o ky 35-40% of our overall health. If you doing a stressful job or in a stupid relation or not have a social circle or eat packaged refined crap.its more likely to have some inflammation or other. Pls work on all areas include a bit of laugh and spirituality health is effected by many dimension and beleifs. There are happy people who undernourished but they don’t have stressful jobs or pressure to pay bills. So find a balance f you have family spent time with kids if you have chosen to live alone live it fully stay afresh each day. The debate of eating what is also a killer. We ll be never be able to understand nature completely. See how body responds and eat things n moderation and have a laugh. No one is going to last forever.
If you are 70,and a glass of wine. Puts you to sleep and you happy with your life I general you ll be fine you are fine. A slice of cake on you grand daughter s birthday or a cone with your better half on the beach is not killing you. The best of diets and cocnstant competition to beat others is what killing us. Social media is another, too much info is also a one of them. Avoid the bad boys and cook yourself avoid food which your body rejects and carb sugar veg fat gluten. And enjoy the ride while it last. Become a better version of your self and earn to meet your needs. Don’t have to be a multimillionaire to enjoy trekking of fishing. You can still do it.
I don't eat rabbit food.
It is amazing that every single one of you In the comment section have this whole thing wrong
Well then why don't you enlighten us.
I love you're podcasts. I am a raw food vegan. Lots of fruit, vegetables, seeds and nuts. I'm 67yrs old and feel great lean, strong and fit
Great topic. Hopefully, i can find more from you on this journey. I have lived on organic foods and meats 80% of my life. But still had psoriasis. A recent switch towards carnavore is finally helping! like to know more about the this topic
Gee thanks for 6 minutes of stating the obvious without, as usual, ANY SOLUTION
Solution = slowly integrate plant diversity back into the diet
I actually cannot ever imagine eating meat again, having been vegan for four years. Putting dead animals in my mouth is just counter intuitive to me now. Only took 52 years.
Your voice might be too smooth lol. I can’t focus lol
Focus 🧘♂️
@@TheProofWithSimonHill you’re right, I haven’t considered that perspective.
I agree 👍
Too much guesswork
Meat doesn't cause cardiovascular disease or others, it prevents them.
Based on what evidence?
@@TheProofWithSimonHill Based on any independent study. Look at people who have been doing a carnivore for years. Many doctors posted information online.
@@johndrocket show it don't tell
@@RHIMYM check out Dr. Chaffee., Dr. Berry..
Well im 2 years in to eating a high plant diet, lots of positives but im bloated much of the time with IBS but IBS has got slightly better over time. Maybe i need a few more years or something
I would try to get rid of ibs now if I were you. Maybe work with a gastroenterologist for a while. It'll be worth it. The last thing you want is anything causing inflammation in your body.
If ibs goes unchecked it can be a risk factor for other things.
@@Cherryoak I've had it for 25 years and tried alsorts. Its getting slightly better on the all plant diet but its taking a long time to improve and like i said i'm bloated af due to all the fibre. Cheers though :)
@@MS45636 Well if it's any encouragement I've known people who have had it most of their life and after working through it with stool testing / elimination diet have got rid of it. I think my friend had it for about 20 years too!
Great that you're symptoms have eased! So many people have it now.
@@Cherryoak Yeah that helps to know, thanks for info!
@@MS45636 my IBS/SIBO and SEVERE chronic bloating disappeared on a carnivore diet.
So... ah, what is the impact? Huh?
"The Blue Zones"
I agree the carnivore is in my mind an elimination diet, I’m curious what you think of the Animal based diet Dr. Paul Saladino is currently teaching?
Same thing . A meat heavy diet is no good
@@tazot4064 hi there, I apologize who are you? Do you work with Simon?
@@Artzenflowers
No. The comments Simon made about the carnivore diet apply to Paul saladinos diet. They are basically the same things. Paul just sprinkles In some fruit
Simon's comments are about high meat diets.
@@tazot4064 Papa, there is a woman who ate only and only meat since 13 years and she feels great!!!!
@@TheProofWithSimonHill thank you for your response, which seems to me a non response. I hear folks say your podcasts are based in science and I listen to a variety of sources to give myself the broader picture, most all of these sources base their opinions in science. Apparently science can be interpreted to suit the interpreters perspective to support their bias…and the beat goes on…
BORING - get to the point
It’s great to see anecdotal examples of people doing well practicing carnivores diet. However, I’ve yet to see people practicing similar animal dominate diets live to become Centenarians or well into their 90’s. Are there any examples available?
Many thousands of Blue zones folks practice plant dominant diets as a life style for decades or even centuries, and they show amazing life and health spans. I’d love to see alternative life styles that can do the same. I’m wide open to anything including Keto, Paleo, Donut-exclusive, all-bacon or all-potatoes… I’d even consider start smoking weed or consuming magic mushroom if there is science evidence showing I can somehow live to 150 and beyond by doing so…
From all of my research, there is no population that eats a meat dominant diet and lives to old age. It’s quite the opposite. Here’s an example, the Maasai tribe, and I’ve actually seen where people use them as an example and it baffles me because they have such a short life expectancy, “the Maasai people’s diet consists of raw meat, raw milk and raw blood from cattle. As a result, most of the Maasai people have a dangerously low life expectancy. Evidently, this causes them to be the People with the lowest life expectancy in the whole world. The average male lives to the age of 42, whilst the women live until the age of just 44. #ThePeopleWithTheLowestLifeExpectancyInTheWorld.” No thank you. Meanwhile, we see the thousands of centenarians around the world and what do they all have in common? Plant rich diets. And movement. And positive outlooks on life. Do some research on Korean centenarians. I found that one particularly very interesting. They expected to find low b12 levels because of their plant dominant diet, but they didn’t. So, they wanted to find out why/how and come to find out they were getting b12 from a fermented soy product that they make and from seaweed that they were eating. From all of my research, and I’ve been obsessively researching diet for the past ten years, I have no question that the plant based diet is the healthiest diet for mankind.
@@plants_and_wellness1574 I firmly believe that fermented food is great for just about everyone - vegetarian, carnivores and everyone in between. Besides vitamin B12, there are quite a few other known (and likely many more unknown) postbiotics including vitamin K and short chain fatty acids, as well as metabolites of all the phytonutrients (e.g. polyphenols) that are beneficial to human health. Consuming fermented food not only reinforce/improve our existing microbiome, it also gives us an opportunity to absorb those postbiotics along our digestive tracks other than the large intestine where the bulk of the microbiome resides.
@@MT-sq3jo I agree completely. I have started incorporating more fermented foods like kimchi and doenjang and I’m also trying to consume more sea veggies 😊
@@plants_and_wellness1574 Literally the longest living current civilizations eat a lot of meat. Hong Kong being number one has the highest meat intake.
@@yooper9062 they also eat a lot of vegetables and rice.
this said nothing
Didn’t you watch the video
The misconception about Cardiovascular disease and the carnivore diet stems from the misunderstanding of different types of cholesterol and how specifically LDL cholesterol should be interpreted through the context of your overall metabolic health. Most of the belief that "high cholesterol is bad" is because high LDL is *correlated* with increased risk of cardiovascular disease, when you observe people who are metabolically healthy with high LDL, you find no such correlation.
That’s not true. The strongest evidence is Mendelian randomisation studies and RCTS. These supersede the population studies you’re referring to.
Pls send a paper that supports your last statement about not finding increased risk of cvd with high LdL as long as you’re ’metabolically healthy’. Pls also define ‘metabolically healthy’.
I misspoke slightly, it's not that it doesn't increase your risk but that your risk is minimized based upon factors like your HDL. For instance, in the Framingham study they found that the difference between risk was 10x greater for participants who had HDL=25 vs participants who had HDL=85 despite sharing the same number of LDL cholesterol.
The problem arises from viewing LDL in a vacuum and not observing the other factors at play.
People who are metabolically healthy have high levels of HDL, Low triglycerides, healthy blood sugar and blood pressure levels, and finally an ideal waist circumference (more or less not obese or underweight). Around 88% of people in America are metabolically "unfit." So it would make sense that in *most* people, having high LDL is bad; However, it's important to note that LDL is highly contextual to your metabolic health as a whole and to not view it within a vacuum.
Specifically with regards to the carnivore diet:
People on carnivore diets frequently show markers suggesting great metabolic health.
Dietary cholesterol does not directly equate to blood cholesterol levels. It isn't a vacuum and is to be viewed in the context of overall diet, lifestyle, the different types of cholesterol, and the overall health of your body and organs.
The diet promotes weight loss through ketosis and the consumption of satiating foods. This has been shown to lower your LDL cholesterol, triglycerides, and improve your blood fasting glucose.
The diet eliminates foods and drinks other than water and home-made bone broth, this includes the elimination of alcohol which negatively impacts the liver, the organ responsible for regulating your cholesterol levels.
Diets low in carbohydrates can improve insulin sensitivity, which can, in turn, have favorable effects on lipid metabolism.
Chronic inflammation is a risk factor for atherosclerosis and heart disease. Metabolic health is closely tied to inflammatory status, so improved metabolic health can potentially reduce cardiovascular risk.
Also one more thing is that people on carnivore diets usually say they experienced few adverse effects and instead report health benefits and high satisfaction. The consistency of energy, improvement in mood, and particularly the reduction of inflammation all promote exercise (and optimization of health) which has a domino effect on health benefits.
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Dude Simon give it a rest with this meat based vs vegan crap. The microbiota can adapt to many diets. Vegan diet is not the only superior diet out there. Its really the composition of the diet and the macro ratios and micronutrients you bring in. There are only subgroups of individuals that need to be on either extreme side. Dont be dogmatic, I know it gets clicks and views but its misleading. I would encourage you too listen to Tommy Woods view on the microbiota, get a different perspective.
@@TheProofWithSimonHill not disputing either. Would really like for you and Tommy to discuss it. Think it would be a great collaboration.
Weston price seems common-sense show me any indigenous tribe that has lived q00s and 1000s of years on plant based its ludicrous
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If carnivores die prematurely from their hyper-violent dietary lifestyles, it seems almost poetic. It's probably not nice to say, I know.
It quite sure what is violent? Far more animals killed, habitats destroyed and destruction of insect and bird life growing beans and grains. Just finished a trip out west here in Australia and cattle are coexisting with so much wildlife, their life is happy and peaceful and they have one bad moment. That’s when they are killed at the abattoir, which is monitored closely. One cow can feed a human for a year. If I was a cow, I think I would rather have a life, and that one moment at death than have no life at all.. can’t bear to think of all the native animals killed for massive fields of canola, wheat rice, and grains. Yours is not a bloodless non violent diet, stop kidding yourself.
no money in healthy populations. WFPB4LIFE because I want to live a long healthy life
A lot of people will disagree with you and they are actual doctors
@@TheProofWithSimonHill well 6 years carnivore off all my meds my lipids are fine my eyes quit burning after year of eye pain my dry skin is a thing of the past I only need 6 hours of sleep and I have done countless hours of research....you can find literature almost any where you look that will agree with you. Not very meaningful.
What works for me might not work for you
@@TheProofWithSimonHill Yeah but what literature are we talking about? Just about any study that someone cites has an agenda and most of the studies are terrible anyway. I haven't come across one study that would promote plants as being super healthy that isn't epidemiology.
@@yooper9062 sure, but anecdotes of successful interventions are susceptible to survivorship bias. Epidemiology is the way to assess data at the population level. You can, of course, listen to Saladino et al and throw shade on epidemiology if you choose.
@@TheProofWithSimonHill blah, blah, dude, you wanna act like some academic scientist, arent you some e-commerce entrepreneur who shills vodka?? Lol. So you are peddling poison while preaching about health.... see the irony there, sweet pea?....😂😂
Someone that thinks that actual doctors have the answers for autoimmune diseases, gut disorders, diabetes.. 😂
To many miss the boat on natures cycles. No grocery. No refrigerators. It only makes sense that our biome will cycle.
The problem with studies is the need to find single point results. Failing to take into account seasonal effects and the flushing of things like oxalate or going thru lean meat season.
IMO our guts aren’t meant to be static but cyclical