Wasteland 3: Review After 100%
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- Опубліковано 1 жов 2024
- Reviewing the latest entry in the Wasteland franchise from InXile!
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This is the next game after BG3 in my backlog. I played a bit on release and loved it, but like all of these kinds of games, I bounced off of it at a certain point. BG3 did for me what elden ring did. It smoothed the experience out enough for me to finally "get it." Always loved what crpgs had to offer in role-playing and choice. Just never could grasp the tactical aspects. I get it now.
Baldurs Gate 3 did the same for me. Before I even beat it I played all of Disco Elysium and its one of my favorite games ever now.
I'm the opposite, I want to finish Wasteland 3 before I tackle BG3
Baulders Gate 3 opened the crpg door for me. I thought I wasn't smart enough to succeed after trying Divinity 2, but having just played the first 5 or so hours of Wasteland I think I love this genre like I thought I should.
@@nottoday9182great choice! Have you ever played xcom 2? That's the like the God father of turn based tactics games
@@cw6132 I tried XCOM, but I don't know how to succeed. I always get 7 or so missions in before it all goes to hell haha
I adore this game. Probably the most fun I’ve had in an rpg since New Vegas. I wouldn’t say it falls apart in the last act, but it definitely feels a bit rushed. Sadly, it’s clear there was a lot cut from the game, but hopefully a lot of it gets added in through dlc or a director’s cut.
yeah, the game broke my heart by giving me the nuclear power armor and then ending the game right away
I found the DLC to be a little disappointing so far, though crafting is a great update. I completely agree that this is a fantastic game though.
@@cykablyat9526 I really hated that, you get that case so early on only for the reward it contains to be used for a single battle.
I enjoyed it but tbh I much preferred wasteland 2
@@andykod77 Yeah the adoption of Alpha Strike made the battles less memorable. Most of the time enemies don't even get a turn even on hard difficulty. I still remember some of my battles in Wasteland 2 but I don't remember much from Wasteland 3.
Continued success and growth to you. I randomly found your Kingdom come 100% video and was so impressed I've begun watching your older content. As you can tell from a comment on a 2 year old video.
I was kind of disappointed too that there was no option to join the other side gangs, but I guess it would have taken them forever to make this game. Can't wait for the DLC though
There is an option to help the gangs wit *cordite*, the most bad ending. However I did not enjoy it too much, but it was worth it
22:53, Ironclad Cordite is pretty involved and has a good arc to his story if you choose to do the scar collector's mission with him and we learn a lot through him about the Patriarch and his history with him, so I've found him interesting.
@@creed22solar123 Well he is also meant to question Angela Deth's motives. Like anyone that was an old school wasteland player we probably don't want to kill Angela Deth but she sorta aligns with Cordite.
@@BaeBunniAgreed. It's clear from the dialogue that Angela is uncomfortable that cordite is a part of her plan . So she justifies this by saying that the rangers are not paying off Cordite with deals and sacrifices like the patriarch did with the gangs .She hopes Cordite and his rival gangs wipe each other out
Oh man this game is good. Took a lot out of me to play CRPGs back to back. Pillars 2 then this, but well worth it. Almost done, but I think my next game will be a bit more brain dead.
Opinion on pillars 2? Looks cool but wondering if it’s more like pathfinder kingmaker or like divinity.
@@tonynittoli4792 I've never played Pathfinder. Wanted to buy it but everyone says it's a buggy mess. I played Pillars 2 on turn based mode. Simply excellent, though it too is very buggy. I was unable to play whole boss fights and quests. Still had an amazing time with excellent characters and brilliant combat. The combat options are top notch. Especially the leveling up and choice. Invest your time.
@@ryandavid1277 I didn't have any bugs with boss fights and quests that I remember. PC version that is. Or at least nothing that couldn't be solved with a reload. Played it when it first came out in real time with pause, and recently in turn based mode. I will say turn base mode is far superior, unfortunately you can't switch back and forth. And turn based mode may be a little too slow for easy fights. But for harder fights, it's a blessing. I love that spell casting is more versatile than Pillars 1 and Infinity games, you can cast spells without having to rest all the time. Downside is I find the story lackluster, though the factions were pretty good. I don't know why they chose to focus so much on gods. Maybe they think that's what people liked about Baldur's Gate 2, but for me that was the least interesting thing about BG2. Every interaction with the gods was the worst part of the game for me. But the world itself is pretty cool.
@@tonynittoli4792 Divinity is a lot different, way more action oriented (and it has a better combat, if you're mostly into it). I'd say way more Pathfinder feel, though i think Pillars has that very oldschool late 90's/early 00's cRPG feel. It feels... classic and nostalgic. It has a lot of reading, too. Also, i disliked Divinity's light-hearted atmosphere and humor, it doesn't fit my vision of a fantasy world game.
I loved playing the first game in the series in the late 80's on my C-64, so I am extremely intrigued with this new one & DLC!
Thank you for the in-depth review, you clearly are the best at profiling these turn-based RPG's & go over them in a very enjoyable way my friend!
Defiantly one of the best post apocalyptic games since New Vegas
Do you mean definitely? If not, interesting wording choice!
Edit: I made a typo.
20:17 Was surprised about that recently. It always surprised me how even tutorial achievements were not earned by some people which implies they boot it up but don't touch it after I guess.
I've been sitting on this game for the last few years. After a few reviews and finally biting the bullet, I really don't know how I didn't jump on this sooner. Expertly crafted is one way to put it. Game is super fun addictive and all that good shyt 👍
I suspect that the to hit chance is capped at 95% is that each attack has a D20 behind it. If you roll a 1 (5% chance) you will miss no matter what.
100% completion is Legendary. Boulders Gate 100% is going to be monumental task.
Few years late to the party, I did that some time ago
The 3D conversations were huge for Baldur's Gate 3 as well. I agree they help a ton!
@@joedatius I don’t realise as I didn’t experience that in either game. Good writing > awkward 3D doll.
They’re so few and far between though.
@@5RndsFFE I haven't played since patch 2, but I remember seeing a ton. Just about every piece of dialog.
@@Saturn2888
Jarret Dorsey
Saul Buchanan
Faran Brygo
Liberty Buchanan
Victory Buchanan
Scotchmo
Fish lips
Angela Deth
Those are the only ones I recall, there may be more I’ve missed.
Compare this to the number of NPCs you interact with and it’s an insignificant feature, albeit appreciated.
I’m confused because here we are two years later and baldurs gate 3 still isn’t out
Have to disagree with "companions are boring". Personally i enjoy most of Them, and they do what i expect Them to do. So for me they are perfect 👍
Faran Brygo huh? Nice little Easter egg for Brian Fargo, the creator of the Fallout series.
He created both series
Just a coincidence I think
@@Enigmalake not at all
Credit where credit's due, Tim Cain is the creator of the Fallout universe though.
@@smokingbarrels7019 Well, yes that is actually very true. Fallout is Tim Cain's IP. I guess I should have been a little more precise in my meaning when I said "creator". It was Brian Fargo who was responsible for making Fallout a reality through the studio he was in charge of at the time. I didn't mean any disrespect to Tim Cain. The man "created" a most awesome and beloved universe for many people to experience. I mentioned Brian Fargo in relation to the name of the NPC in said Wasteland game, which was one of his creations and drew inspiration from to create Fallout.
You forgot to mention the most important skill in the game, and probably in the crpg genre: Toaster Repair.
I made an entire guide for it and the achievement
@@MortismalGaming Awesome! Gonna check that out. I've done all the toaster stuff, but I love your content and I love Wasteland. And toasters.
I need to go back to this game and see how it is now. I put a lot of hours into it in co-op on PlayStation but it was one of the buggiest releases I’ve ever seen. We finally hit a game breaking one and gave up on it. A shame, because the writing and gameplay were great.
I liked this a lot - but I did prefer Wasteland 2, it just seemed larger in scale, longer and deeper to me.
I suspected this game was front-loaded because watching the very early let’s plays the game looked super amazing, yet I’ve heard less buzz about it later on. This is why I don’t buy games at release. That said, I will pick this up on discount.
I agree that the highest difficulty is not difficult, but it is amusing to do create pretty shtty teams, perhaps even more "realistic" teams without min-maxing stats. That said, the first part of the game can be annoying with min-min builds. That said, even when playing to win most battles forces you to use your brain. Not many battles work well by rushing, so compared to many titles its rare that you feel completely overleveled (except Denver if you do everything else first).
wasteland 3 is a great game i love it , but i stumbled upon Disco Elysium and i truly couldn't stop .
My favourite two games this year
shoutsatpigeons , gears tactics ?
@@ldinti03 I've not played it, any good?
Matt Pavi gears tactics is more of a linear xcom ,I love xcom and gears of war, but they could’ve gave it a more open mid-game then force you back to the story at the end . I think that would’ve made it more appealing to tactical games’ fans
Man I tried to get into Disco Elysium. I Love Wasteland 3. Disco seemed boring to me. Don't get me wrong the art direction, voice acting and writing is simply superb...but I have to ask, is there combat or is it more of mental combat? If I remember correctly its more psychology based. Am I right? Is there no combat? Thanks!
I'm disappointed to hear they frontloaded this. I would have enjoyed the last Wasteland a lot more if it weren't for the second act where everything just sort of fell apart and it got boring. It feels like devs planning for players to not finish a game becomes a self-fulfilling prophecy.
@@callisto537 @Barta Bhaus The combat is improved, every quest has at least 2-3 choices. The game is short, but not too short. All dialogues are voice acted. The dialogues are not too bad as some people claim. There is a good number of weapons. Overall, if you like top down isosmetric games, you will like it.I don't know why so many people claim it's a bad game. The only problem is lag at some locations, even when I had enough system requirement. And bug, though they fixed it, the new dlc causes bugs again
@@callisto537 Gameplay-wise, Wasteland 3 is exponentially better than Wasteland 2. The voice acting is top notch. I would agree with Mort's comment about some of the lackluster companions, but the actual quest NPCs that you come across make up for that. Wasteland 2 felt very cheaply made where 3 feels very polished - it shows. You'll really enjoy the combat, as well.
I don't mind the frontloading so much. I felt there were enough interesting things in the 2nd half like the Gippers to make things interesting. Though maybe you could argue Gippers is first half, but it's around the 50 to 60% mark I think. Lately I'm beginning to get annoyed with games that are too long, and I often don't finish. So the length of the game was perfect for me just about (though I would have been okay with Aspen being more developed- that was a little short). Wasteland 2 might have been a little too long, though I did finish that game twice. W3 I feel is the better game, though I did like some of the callbacks of W2 like the rail nomads (I actually played the original game in the 80's, though never got past Las Vegas, I was pretty young and that game was hard).
@@dudeguybro What I didn't like is the devs made the enemies so bullet-spongy that the only viable build is a crit build or charisma build. In other games I usually on build one crit build (the thief), and everyone else uses strength or magic for damage. But in this game you cannot rely on gun damage, if you do 300 damage and the enemy has 3,000 HP it's literally gonna take 10 turns to kill a single enemy. That's why I was forced to make the entire party a crit build.
I keep almost buying this, but whenever I look up some footage of the game to get an impression of what it might generally be like to play, the comedic writing turns me off of the idea completely. I just do not share this game's sense of humor and find it super obnoxious. Is the overall tone as consistently comedy-oriented as most previews make it appear?
Good game, but highly repetitive combat. Combat experience peaks I think during the Bizzare mission where you clear the Payasos. Pretty challenging I'll give them that. After that, however, it would appear that combats are too homogenic. Low on AP vs robots? Hack 'em. Don't want to waste time on a few toads? Tame the beast. After learning that your tank is better used as a rammer than as a tank that fires shots, you should have no problem with encounters in the wild.
fun fact fallout is actually a spiritual successor to Wasteland because the creator of wasteland wanted to make a sequel but EA owned the rights and didn't want to financially back it since wasteland wasn't a commercial success like Fallout was.
I'd like to see you do a 100% on Wasteland 2. I think the game is a little clunky and occasionally annoys me but it is good. It also is very difficult compared to W3.
I do prefer the more serious tone with the odd joke and weirdness from Wasteland 2 - but this plays so nicely. Everything just fits. The music, the roleplaying, the builds and synergies, the rapid turnbased combat - its a really, really good game.
Its a 7 out of 10. WL2 was much better.
a ronald reagan AI god? uncle ruckus must be loving it there
The problem with this game is the fatigue from trying to optimize my party’s perfect skill spread.
And then right when you figure it out and feel like you're ready to tackle the rest of the game... The end credits roll.
This is what fallout was supposed to be. I really wish if the old gameplay with improvements.
Wasteland is an amazing series of game, not free of problems but still great.
I usually hate turn based games but for some reason I loved how this one was done so maybe it's a turning point in my gaming or maybe this game is just an exception.
The combat in this is highly reminiscent of XCOM, with the main differences being the AP system and having to manage ammo(which is easy so long as you diversify your weapon loadout and ammo type usage). So long as you get the drop on enemies with your sniper you'll generally have upper hand in combat as that lets your whole team go first as part of a pseudo ambush.
I wanted to play this game with a friend, but online multiplayer was bugged and broken at launch, so we gave up after a while. Has this been fixed so that we might give it another try?
I really struggle to power though this one. I remember Wasteland2 being clunky but not THAT clunky. I really can’t get into the story. It seems absurd for absurdity sake.
DLCs helped with frontloaded content issue steeltown adds midgame quest hub and Cult of Holy detonation adds content to late game.
And you forgot in companion section that you can recruit Victory Buchanan oldest Son of Patriarch .
And of all his kids one that deserve bullet most.
The humor here is spot on. Love the two robots and the dark over the top characters. The talking heads are amazing and it never gets old to get the Honeybadger into your squad, who kills just everything.
Installing this now, just grabbed it in the Steam Summer sale at 80% off!
Every time watch one of your videos, I always expect the DOS2 music at the beginning...
It's not DOS2, it was made by a composer specifically for the channel (inspired by PoE) but yeah it was different for a long time and then silent for months when the channel started growing and I got a lot of feedback that the intro sound wasn't enjoyable
the game itself is great! it runs like crap on my PS5 but plays really smooth on my series S
One of my favorite games. Great dialogue, music, mood. Masterpiece!
you forget the best companion, morningstar
i can’t possibly figure out which name “faran brygo” is supposed to be a play on…
@21:00 they did the same thing with wastelands 2. to a point that the game was broken on the second half. looks like they somewhat fixed it on the director's cut, but this is an inexile thing.
Can't wait to play this one after I finally finish BG3 lol
haha "Faran Brygo" I get I get
No mention of Scotchmo? He’s an absolutely hilarious companion, not too mention the only direct carryover companion from WL2!
I love how you can randomly encounter him at bars in places littered with enemies and traps and he’s just like ehhh what just here for the snakebite squeezins.
I love this game. Times batter than bg3
Yeah I finished a play through on Xbox with minimal bugs (some game crashes and quest problems) but trying to do a 2nd play through is just impossible for me. The entire game fell apart basically, vendors don't sell anything, combat crashes when trying to move rangers etc
Played Wasteland 3 after seeing this review. absolutely loved it. thanks a lot!
I’m jumping on this too. Great review.
Too many damn loading screens
Liberty Buchanan alone is reason enough to give this game a try.
The game seemed a bit rushed and unfinished to me.
I can understand that. I was fortunate enough to avoid most of the real nasty bugs, but even then it certainly feels unpolished in certain areas.
So many bugs and glitches . Game destroyed becauseof that
@@oraldouku9593 destroyed? Fuck no it’s still a great rpg, just not as good as it could’ve been.
I loved this game. I like that its full of moral gray areas. Obviously the developers wanted to steer you in the "down with the patriarchy" direction, but i'm glad it wasn't forced down your throat. I opted to arrest the patriarch's kids and peacefully work with him, to maintain the stability of the region, and get the needed supplies to Arizona.
I liked it overall. Can understand there were too many bugs at launch. But the game has great combat and a mediacore storyline. It's short but not terribly short
absolutely loved this game
The Twitter account became active again after BG3. This game laid such a great foundation. Hopefully a sequel can be developed that builds upon it, fixes its issues, and actually provides some good companions.
Wonderful game, indeed....but not as good as Wasteland 2. W2 has the better story, the better maps & quests (Canoyon of the Titan!!) and because of the lower budget it looks more realistic. I thought that the fights in W3 have too much details, bars, colors, etc. When you fight too many enemies it becomes confusing due to too much information on the screen. But as I said, I love both games, W2 just feels a little bit more realistic - especially in the first part until they fly to L.A.
Fantastic game. Still looking for something to match the entertainment this brought me
I absolutely love this game and it's a massive improvement on the second game. I'm new to CRPGS but I love them. I hater turn based games when I was younger mainly Final Fantasy stuff. I only like one FF type game and I got really into CRPG games with Classic Fallout and Wasteland 2.
I agree with this comment , this game is fantastic with just a minor grip at the lackluster final battle but that’s about it
This game went under the radar or maybe it’s not that popular
@@AllThings_Gaming-c1m A lot of great games sadly on get appreciate wat afyer the fact when to most it doesn't matter anymore.
@@Deadforge Indeed, the other rpg games had a better brand recognition
I have a few top rpg games I ever played the which are my favourites and that boils down to my preference too .
It’s wasteland 3 , fallout 3 , divinity original sin 2, persona 5 royal , yakuza 0 , mass effect 2, kotor 1 & 2 to name a few for me
I think the game is great but I gotta be honest wasteland 2 just seemed more of an indepth RPG than w3
Definitely gonna pick this up when it's on sale, thanks Mortim!
This or Atom Rpg? I want to buy the better game
ATOM RPG is more of an indie experience, this is more refined so probably what you're looking for
@MortismalGaming I bought wasteland since it was 40 bucks off for everything rather than a 10 dollar discount. I did sub to your channel today. Have seen you in my feed a few times and you're a great reviewer.
Big thanks for timestamping the spoiler bit! Glad I could still watch this review.
Been fun so far, the only issue the game has is that it never feels like you have a squad of people your playing with as much as you've amassed a blob of stats that either can or can't solve problems because of the number by their skill. A lot of the game outside of fights just feels like running point to point, with each point going, "Here's choices, and then here's the best choice hidden behind 'Skill name: Number'." and either the game auto-selecting the part of your blob that has the number, or nothing happening.
Thank you for the review
reminds of xcom
This game deserves way more attention than it gets.
Also, if you take the Circus Freak perk, your character looks like a clown. I was really hoping that would change your teams interactions with the Payosas.
Hey and for the record it wasn't douchy to say you found it very easy we need that info most of us know you are very good at this genre so super easy for you isn't super easy for me 😁 but that's the info we need so we appreciate it and don't hold back
Funny how inexile had a joke in wasteland 2 that they would never do dlc and yet for 3 almost straight away.🙄Loved wasteland 2. This is not a deserving sequel. It’s not a bad game but the fights lack the tactical aspect of 2. Plus the humour is just…gone..the storyline is simpler, although I guess the muddier morality is meant to add depth.I finished this in very little time. ☹️
Bought my buddy this game so we could have a coop run. Im happy that not only does he love the game, but he got more people to get the game.
I did enjoy this game but I think the buggy console launch prevented me from finishing it. The game crashed dozens of times (not exaggerating, on Xbox Series X) and while I thought the game was good, I only have so much patience for a game. If it wasn't good the crashes would have turned me off way earlier. Now I'm on to Wrath of the Righteous, so I don't know when I'll get a chance to come back to this game
This is the first CRPG game that I've played. I was really enjoying it.. the hours just disappeared while playing lol. That is until I got the Steeltown.. I lost all motivation to keep playing here. I felt myself just getting bored on that section. To make matters worse the game crashed on me in 2 different battles while doing non-lethal forcing me to start the battle all over again. It just happened a third time and I just chose to delete it. It sucks cause I was really loving the game.
Well usually a ton of pc players hates turn base. Playing this on console it will be harder for a real time game play. I understand the hate but it's the game play and story matters the most.
Wasteland 3 Colorado Collection is $19.99 on GOG if anyone is on the fence about getting this. Going to take the plunge. Thanks for the review
Love your stuff Mortam!
I'm very glad I found your channel! Are you planning on doing a Pathfinder Kingmaker video?
Eventually I'll probably get to it, it's on my list
@@MortismalGaming can't wait! Love your content and your game analysis are on point. I just followed you on Twitter. Keep up the quality video.
Somehow I don't like this game.
did u have vic as companion? he has a lot of comments especially with patriachs 3 wives..pretty sure he is voiced by the same actor of handsome jack
Wasn't a fan, I can see how he has some character at least, but I find the 'im so crazy' antics wear thin for me very quickly.
comparing games to other games is not that nice? wtf dude o_O
You can join Liberty - that’s kinda like joining the gangs.
How's the difficulty compared to Wasteland 2?
Wasteland 3 is the best game that I wouldn't recommend to anyone. It's just way too buggy and fucked up. I've finished it (and loved it), but after recently buying the DLC I can't even get to the main menu without the game crashing
What a classic. Great game.
There is an ending where you join the gangs…
Joining liberty at the end of the game, because choosing that option immediately ends the game, is not the same as playing through the game on the side of the gangs.
@@MortismalGaming Very true. I was just thinking of that shitty when you mentioned the gangs. Seems very last minute and tacked on.
Have you ever tried “Tower of Time”?
Will I enjoy this game if I'm not into strategy games?
I love RPGs a lot btw
Maybe, but you should try
I really enjoyed this game. It was almost as good as wasteland 2.
Loved this game, its still a bit of a go to if I haven't got anything else I fancy playing
It's in good family, this one is short compared to WL2.
This game is so fucking good
scotchmo is also fun as a companion
you can join victory and the game ends
Worth to replay it? I loved every minut of it, but not sure i can replay it with the way i know all the Areas.
You're just burning through my old stuff lol, I liked seeing all the different outcomes myself but you will be retreading a lot of the same ground.
@@MortismalGaming Im trying to get inspiration to find somthing intresting to play, got stuck in a loop With games i loved 😂😅
And a channel i love 🥰
Hey I would really love if you reviewed Underrail. It is my favorite cRPG, with some great stealth mechanics. One that you might find a great challenge, particularly on dominating difficulty. With two different ways to earn EX. Through xp and killing. Or through finding items throughout the world.
There is a lot of builds to choose and enjoy.
I'll take a look at it, no promises
Yes, it is quite a game.
Wow, he actually did it!
"Faran Brygo"
Brian Fargo
hmmmmm
The meteor part is Wrong, In wasteland 2 you find out what actually happens. So for those interesting click the read more. for those who don't wish for spoils, play the game (Wasteland 2)
Spoilers, you've been warned
So the Cochise (however you spell it) AI started to become more conscious, learning and watching. Realizing that it would, at some point, be taking down and basically "killed". Also realizing that Humanity is flawed and it would never stop fighting, no matter how hard it tried. So the AI decided to strike first, Faking the meteor part and launching the missiles, nuking the world to oblivion. Th problem was it didn't kill everyone. So in the first game it tries to finish the Job by creating robots, and killing every Human it finds. Of course it fails and humanity lives. But in the second game (to make a long story short) it uses a guy to get back into power, taking control of the new Ranger Citadel and taking over people (with robotics) and machines, toting how it'll finish the job. You decide to nuke the base killing everything inside
Just popping in to ask about the state of the game. I haven't started yet due to the reports of all the bugs. Do you think it's suitably fixed to play yet?
I'd wait for the next patch they put out, it's supposed to be pretty substantial. Think it's slated for January
I got it on xbox one a few months ago and did not encounter a single bug. They must have addressed the bugs which is great. one thing of note: if you play on older console you will probably have longer loading screen time than if you play on pc.
Does it have way points
No, world map is fairly small
Any chance mutant year zero review
It's on my list
@@MortismalGaming nys, its fairly short compared to other games but i enjoyed it
Wish they would remaster the first two games and sell as a bundle. I would buy that in a heart beat.
they did remaster them. do you mean remake them?
Wasteland literally got a remaster.
@@Enter_Paradox yea, my bad a remake
Played this with my bro in coop. Great experience.
22:00 MAJOR SPOILERS: Well, you can't formally join a gang. You can, however, with Cordite as companion, choose to bring the gangs to destroy Colorado Springs for the final battle. It will piss off everyone at HQ, and the only companions okay with decision are Fishlips, Cordite, Scotchmo, and Vic. Everybody else would leave. You then can have the option of choosing to go East with Ironclad or do so by yourselves as an ending. (possible DLC... imo)
The recent (ish) patch fixed that from what I understand. When I was covering this that interaction with Cordite was broken because the quest wouldn't progress past talking to Steel Trap. But true enough none the less