Turbo E46 Issues... | Turbo Drain Redesign |
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- Опубліковано 5 жов 2024
- With some newfound issues, tuning is currently on hold until they get resolved. On top of that, I test some theories on oil drain design for bottom mount turbo setups (specifically ebay manifold) and find out that...well watch the video and find out.
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Hey man im glad u finally make an update 🤙🏻
I saw dylan hughe’s e36 turbo build video on royal purple youtube page. He modified that turbo manifold to allow the turbo sits a bit higher and he doesn’t got smoking problems. Probably thats help. Good luck with the build man
Yup! The maxpeedingrods manifold just sits too low. I think at some point if I have more issues I’ll go spa.
@@nuisance_carl Bro I don't know alot about turbo builds but I have an e46 I do alot of work on and I can tell you it came with maxpeedingrods suspension and the car was literally undriveable, it felt broken. I would never support that company or buy any of there products again. That manifold could be your issue right there
Haven’t been this excited for a video to drop in a long time. I’m planning to turbo my e46 aswell these vids have been very helpful. You planning to cover the mapping ?
Yup! I will be covering some basic mapping. Hopefully sooner rather than later
@@nuisance_carl can’t wait ! Hopefully but either way have fun with the build
@@obsidianforce7542 Thanks!
@@nuisance_carl ima be making a video hopefully next week on tuning and what not 🙂 the correct way and all so if you have any questions lmk.
Also what size oil restrictor you have. I was having same issues and turns out my oil restrictor was to big
@@the_e46lover96 Thanks, will do! I'm running the "stock restrictor" for my ebay turbo. At this point, I'm just going to run a scavenge pump.
I know it's old video but the problem is the concept. Your idea about the water thing is correct.
But if your drain line is at the same level as your oil in your oil pan then the drain tube will act like a dipstick tube.
The oil in the pan will create pressure which will make the oil go up and restricting the oil draining from the turbo because the oil is draining due to gravity not atm pressure as the oil drain is not open to atm pressure.
In the video, I added a vent to the drain so that both the drain and oil pan were under the same atmospheric pressure. Theoretically, the oil level should have equalized (obviously it didn't).
@@nuisance_carl yes but it is still at oil level
And also take into consideration crankcase pressure that may create back pressure in the turbo drain line.
@@keshav4324 It's definitely not crankcase pressure that's causing it to back up. Verified that by removing the oil cap and no change.
Yeeeeeah i been waiting for a vid
Likewise. Constant issues aren’t fun 😂
Good work and video. Will be following as well..
Thanks!
Top mount that bad boy, problem solved!
You’re right, that would work but I’ll pass lol not a fan of top mounts
Crankcase vacuum should make it drain faster if it above the windage tray
Miss my turbo e46. Gotta get another one.
Do it! For the time that I was tuning it, it was all smiles.
Thanks for posting
Of course! Thanks for watching lol
hi man can i use the sam turbo manifold as you for a top mount turbo? or is it a bottom mount only turbo manifold. and thank you for the detailed videos.
It's a bottom mount manifold. Some have used it as top mount if you make a custom adapter.
Hey brother...i intend to use that same manifold for a top mount set up waiting on it from ebay rn everything else is in hand..anyway do you have any idea what type of fab is needed to run this as a top mount. Like a t3 to t3 45° or a 90°??
@@chrispuff5278 Sounds about right. 90° might be a little over the top but I've seen as much as a 180° to position the turbo behind the headlight.
Hi, it told you the oil drain problem of bottom mount. I had the same manifold and the same problems. You can not solve this without scavenge pump......
Oil level is to high with bottom mount. If you fill up the oil it will be in the level of turbo shaft, also with your small catch tank there
Yes you did. Plain and simple, I hate scavenge pumps, but it is what it is lol
I also hate this pump. Im building a mid mount manifold. When im ready i can give you the cad data.
If you want to remain this manifold then you can bolt the pump at the dip stick und pump from turbo to connecting point of ccv of dipstick
where you have the bung on the sump is too low that is the problem need to move it up near to engine block. gravity feed on return is the problem also the push on the oil in the pan from blow by also. you need a propper oil catch can set up also factory stuff now is rubbish, also to add that ccv will be restricting crankcase breathing! This is one of the disadvantage of having bottom mount manifold, this is why most people choose top mount manifolds on these engines.
It’s a little too late for me to add a higher bung to the oil pan, and still have a possibility of it not working. I already have a catch can setup but will be adding 2 -10an breathers in the future. I also don’t like top mounts lol
i had same issue and solved it with scavenge pump, and i made drain to the oil pan on the dip stick side.. right near it at the highest possible place on oil pan... i have some pictures( i guess) can send u them on instagram if u want... i located scavenge pump near crank shaft pulley (where factory AC pump sits) and hose goes from scavenge pump to oil pan righ above place where oil dip stick sits in oil pan. with low mount u cannot really do better without scavenge pump because oil level as i measured on my m54 is right under oil pan gasket... so basicly ur oil level is in ur turbo drain line ...
I should be good on pictures. What pump did you go with? I just picked up an rb racing pump
@@nuisance_carl i have some ebay scavenge pump, its noisy but works fine
Good diag bro
If i remember correctly you still have ac 🙃? Just asking because drift cars with ac are king lol. Either way cant wait to hear this thing making all kinda turbo noises going sideways.
Yup a/c! “Street cars” are the thing nowadays lol
@@nuisance_carl hell yea!!! I hope youre able to fix that oil issue man id hate for you to have to listen to a scavange pump all day long.
@@em2attic I'm already set on going scavenge pump. Shouldn't be too bad for noise. There are some quiet pumps out there. I'm more concerned about the added complexity, but I'm over that at this point.
Mines a 330Cd
204 stock I had it mapped stage 1 to 270bhp. The thing is a completely different car once mapped !
Oh I’m sure!
@@nuisance_carl completely different car, gears, cars feels lighter, torque is great in 2nd at 2.5k revs
Bruh. I’d be so pissed 😤 hope you figure it out.
I don’t know anything about turbo oil setups, but could that shorty line be your issue?
Possibly, but the root problem is the manifold positions the turbo too low. I could fiddle with other drain solutions but I’m throwing in the towel and going scavenge pump 🤮
did your oil feed line have an oil restrictor in it? or did the turbo side of the oil feed have a restrictor in it? if not maybe the turbo is getting too much oil
Yea I added an oil feed restrictor after this video. Definitely a band aid for this specific turbo though.
@@nuisance_carl looks like you’ve tried everything, if it’s still a problem then it may just be the turbos seals
@@yuno3364 Definitely slightly smokes after the restrictor, but it's much better
YYYYYYEEEEEESSSSSS FINALLY!!!!!
Right?!
another question i have is where can i get the same rear fender panels as you?
Rear fenders are from a company called DTM Fiberwerkz
Where was the vacuum leak ? I'm chasing the same issue
It was at the injectors. A good way to test it is to spray carb cleaner at all possible leak areas. If it is leaking, you’ll notice a change in idle. Don’t do this on a warm engine though.
Hey man, do you think youre having this issue because its a bottom mount setup?
Not necessarily because it’s bottom mount. There are bottom mounts that work with just gravity drain. It depends on manifold design, how much oil your turbo requires, and your oil drain design.
Can I just run a drain hose from turbo to oil pan drain bolt (top mount)
People have done it before, but I personally am not a fan of it. You’d still have to drill it out to have the same inner diameter as 10an, which I wouldn’t do on the car. At that point, might as well put a separate bung on
Think of adding a one way diaphragm ?
Although it would stop oil travel from the oil pan to the turbo, it still wouldn’t help evacuate oil from the turbo.
Move you oil drain little upper in pan, i got zero issues with smoking or oil consumption with that.
At this point I’m done fiddling with gravity drains on this manifold, especially if it means pulling the pan to fit another bung and plug up the old one. A scavenge pump should be super easy to set up and get me up and running
Please make a similar tank and ship it to me in sweden? 😜😜😁
You need a scavenge pump
Unfortunately yes, that’s what will be happening
@@nuisance_carl I installed one on my boosted Tacoma and it works great
M56 valve cover swap
Eventually I will
@@nuisance_carl Yo doing a great work men.. your videos motivated me to start working again on my e46 watching from Oregon
@@gerardogoveche8064 Awesome dude!