Recently bought the Ruger American Hunter 6.5 with the grey stock. I love it! This thing is a tack driver! I topped it off with a Vortex 4-16x44 Viper HS LR and it is perfect for it.
I’m looking between Ruger American hunter and the predator do you find the 20 inch barrel to be any sort of issue at long range and are you getting sub moa?Thanks not a lot of info out there on the hunter
Good to hear Kyle! Just ordered the Ruger American Hunter in 6.5 with the desert tan stock. 22 inch heavy barrel with the ruger muzzle break. It’ll be topped with an Athlon Helos BTR 6-24x50 with IR MIL. Have a Texas hog trip all set up next winter so I’m dying to get it to the range once it comes in next week and get it zeroed on some steel.
It's rapture go to glass. No...it's not a $5k S&B but the SS 10x42mm is indeed a hard core mil spec unit (still seeing use in the middle east) that has decent glass, 100% accurate tracking turrets at a ridiculous affordable price.
It’s really chapping the asses of some guys that budget Ruger rifle is capable of shooting so well and it’s not just the 6.5 round either. They’ve been impressive with the .308 & .243 as well.
My Ruger American Predator in 6.5 CR shot about 2MOA out of the box. Added muzzle brake, 30MOA scope mount for long range shooting but was still about 1.5 MOA. Then put the Magpul stock on and suddenly I had a rifle that shoots .75 MOA and occasionally I get a .5 MOA group. I love this rifle. Even with all the additional purchases to get it to run good, it's still a very affordable rifle.
You are exactly right. I have nothing against the guys who can afford 5k or 10k for a gun, that's just out of my budget. I am not saying that my first Creedmoor w/Vortex Scope (for $349), and on it's first hunt dropped an 8 pt @243 yds, is better than yours. I am just saying don't be mad at my budget. I also have the Ruger 6.5 GoWild (cause it was purrtty), lol... 4 groupings of three, all touching....No one is saying it's the greatest round or gun ever, but, you also can't deny the results.
I bought one three years ago paid $325 for it put an mdt chassis under it vortex viper pst gen ll changed some internal parts on the bolt anarchy outdoors cut some coils off the trigger spring shoots great 👍🏻👍🏻🇺🇸🇺🇸🇺🇸🇺🇸
I have this gun. But I built mine. It hadn't been invented yet. I got one of the first Magpul Hunter stocks. Ruger predator. I can shoot .333 moa. Have achieved 1/4. It's as good as my Howa chassis rifle. I also shoot the Hornady. They are affordable on sale.
I had my RA Predator in 22-250 at the range. the guy scoffed at me and said i needed an AI to shoot good groups. Load testing.. was all sub moa.. on load testing. He left the range. I think he was upset with his life choices.
That's awesome man. Guys like that need to be humbled and no better way to make them realize money can't buy talent than to shoot lights out. Expensive guns are nice, and high quality, but that doesn't make someone better at shooting. Good for you! 👊
I was the guy who scoffed at you with your RA Predator in 22-250. You need an AI to shoot good groups. You were way over MOA... on load testing. I left the range. I was happy with my life choices.
@@adambees2174 "I was happy with my choices," yet here he is looking at reviews of the Ruger rifle. lmao You're a loser. Sell your AI for psychology courses. It'd do you good.
I just took out my new Ruger American Hunter 6.5 CM, which already has the Magul stock on it. It is a tack driver, but I'm having feeding issues with Remington Core-Lokt, 140 Grain and Winchester Power Point, 129 grain. The gun runs perfectly with the Hornady American Whitetail, 129 Grain Jacketed Soft Point, which has the more pointed tip. Anyone else having feeding issues?
Exceptional project kit; would be nice if Ruger would sell the barreled action only. Then head to Anarchy Outdoors for the needed bits & pieces. Stocks, super high quality bolt components, Timney trigger, 30 & 40 moa replacement pic rails, etc. One can build a exceptional kit at an affordable price.
@HarvestAlaska I do. It's still an awesome rifle, and I also shoot a 7 PRC this year. But when I have any issue at all with any rifle, like scope (Vortex had to be sent back) or my 300blk ATN scope needs to be rezeroed, I ALWAYS go back to grabbing this rifle. I know it's on the money and I trust it.
@@brockedandloaded6034 right on bro I love to see the budget stuff get it done you should bring it out and make a video banging some steel what do you have in 7prc like to see a video on that to bro good stuff u put out
Just build the same rifle and was wondering if you had a uneven gap on either side of the free float barrel? Been trying to figure out if issue is on ruger or magpul.
Hey BL Great video. A big reason leading me to get the Ruger American Hunter .308 as my first hunting rifle. I did have a question tho if you can help me out. I'm contemplating between buying the American Hunter as-is from my dealer for around $800. And the other option is doing a build, buying a Ruger predator (~450) then buying a magpul stock (~250).. From my understanding and research the gun itself barrel/receiver is all the same. The only difference i'm seeing is the Ruger break the Hunter comes with. Do you know what i'm missing in the two compersions or options? seems like a no brainer pricewise, but not seeing much info about people building from base vs buying the Hunter (most videos are out dated pre-Hunter release from Ruger)
I'm not 100% on this, but on the Facebook group for Ruger Amemrican rifles it seems like they are quite the same. The hunter actually has a slightly thicker barrel if I remember correctly, and it's shorter also, right? I was thinking the predator was 22" and the hunter was 18/20". Personally, it depends on what you want it for. If you're going 308, you may not see the accuracy I'm seeing in the 6.5. For some reason, 6.5 rifles tend to be more accurate out of the box than 308s do. Not to say either are bad, I'd bet money you'll get 3/4 MOA out of a factory 6.5 nine out of ten times. I can't make that bet with a 308. But if it's for hunting, and not shooting extreme long range, it won't matter. Run strelok or a ballistics app and determine the velocity you'll gain/lose between the two models if the barrels are different lengths, and ask if that is going to make a difference in the woods. Its always a tradeoff isn't it? Weight for speed? For the most part anyway
@@brockedandloaded6034 my thinking is to just have this one rifle for all my hunting needs. probably wont shoot out more than 300yrd, so the .308 will just do the job. So factoring that in.. is there a benefit to a larger diameter barrel?
Won't get hot and string shots as fast. But thats not an issue if it's mainly a hunting rifle. For extended target shooting it may matter. Thicker is better
Sorry for the confusion. I meant the original Ruger stock. It was flimsy. It actually did really well afterwards. The Magpul one fixed everything no problem though. Stiff, free floated, and bigger channel for aftermarket heavy barrels.
Brocked and Loaded because this has been several months. Does the MagPul stock need sanded and epoxy? I’m looking into one of these for my first long range rifle.
@@brockedandloaded6034 amen brother. I use the 6x for hunting & 10x for fun. Or 10x for hunting sometimes too. I’m up in Alaska they can really handle a beating and still track like a mother fucker 😎👍🏽
Brock, awesome video. I recently purchased a Ruger American 6.5cm predator but it didn't come with the clip that you had with the original setup. Is that what you added or did it come with that clip? It looks like it can hold 5+. Mine can only hold 4 rounds.
I can't remember if mine came with a 4 or 5 round one. I added a ten rounder from magpul, AICS pattern short action 308, but the first two to three rounds have trouble clambering. After that its fine. I typically only use the 4/5 rounder though. No issues there. Mine has a brown follower, which I'm told is specific to the magpul stock
Not sure if my first reply posted or not i dont see it i got the indian creek designs mofo chasis mine fires .223 but my friend has the same set up you have and i really love the stock, the way it fires and honestly think i prefer the 6.5, for the price its a hell of a gun
At 6:10 you said you had 750-800 rounds through the barrel. Because most 6.5 ammo comes in a 20 round box we will split the difference and say 740-760. At today's prices the average price for non-reloaded ammo (that I have seen locally here in Indiana) is priced from $40-$65 a box depending on brand. So we will use the average of $55 which is the most common price I have seen locally. As of March 2021 to shoot 740 rounds it is $2035 and for 760 rounds it is $2145. That's only if you can get your hands on any ammo. I only got my 6.5 last year during the pandemic because a buddy was freaking out and needed money. I love my Ruger American 6.5 but damn is the ammo expensive. (and damn was I bored to do all that math) :)
Am sure I'm the one confused here, but isn't that the Ruger American *Hunter*? Looks different than the Predators I've seen. Just trying to figure out what I'm missing, been looking at these guns and trying to understand.
No its the Predator, but I added an aftermarket magpul "hunter" stock, that comes factory on the Ruger American Hunter. However, the Roger American hunter and the Roger American predator arent exactly the same rifle. Different barrel profiles and lemgths.
Creedmoore, Creedmoore, Creedmoore, now it's 6.8 Grenell, what about the 6.8 Remington SPC? Roundup reviews needed but not limited to one cal, whata think?
I've got the same setup in 6.5 CM, super accurate. It loves the ELD bullets by Hornady. Hats off to Magpul for that stock. A little heavy for stalking deer or elk but doable. I bought the rifle including a Vortex 4-12 scope from Cabelas for about $650. Add the Magpul stock for $300. That's under $1k complete for a very competent rifle. It's a keeper !
That's a sweet deal! Which vortex? Diamondback or what? Also, do you hunt with it? I'm curious on that end how it does against different game. That's what I'll probably get into next. Thanks for watching!
@@brockedandloaded6034 It's the Crossfire 2 by Vortex. I'm sure it's Vortex's cheapy scope but it's pretty nice. I've not hunted with it yet - this fall. Thanks much for the vid!
I don't unfortunately. I just took the stock off, poured the epoxy in, let it set up, then took a socket that was the right size as the barrel channel in diameter and wrapped it in sandpaper and sanded it down until the barrel was free floating again. Kept putting the action back in over and over checking. Then sanding some more. Wish I had video of it now. It wasn't really hard though. I just figured if I screwed it up it would give me an excuse to buy the Magpul
Hahah. Well I’m going to give it a try now. Good logic with the magpul backup plan. They look great and sounds like increased accuracy. So the epoxy was cheap, but if you were to do it again, what kind would you use? Thanks in advance long gun Jedi
I’m putting together essentially the same rifle. I noticed my scope is mounted about where yours is and it seems farther back then most peoples. Are you able to remove the bolt or do you have to remove the cheek riser first? Great video!
Thanks! So I can get my bolt out barely. I have to rotate it so the angled part of the shroud is down giving you clearance to take it further back. It would definitely be a pain it it wouldn't. Have you tried that?
@elkhuntr2816 I haven't cherry picked anything. This rifle has quite literally never shot a group over 1". Ever. I'm about 1500 rounds through by my best estimation, and Ive taken it out to a mile going 4/5. Its an absolute shooter. I'm not saying every one out there will shoot this well, but it does. Where dI'd you get the idea I cherry picked a group?
@@brockedandloaded6034 "Where dI'd you get the idea I cherry picked a group?" Its my assumption based on what most youtubers are doing. Once they shoot the first MOA group, they stop. That's meaningless. The next group could be 2" because all shots will be randomly dispersed. If you have truly shot 1500 rounds (500 groups?) and never shot over MOA, that would be truly rare indeed, especially with no point of impact change. A lot of people would love to see that. Its very helpful when trying to make a decision on a hunting rifle. Just show us 10 consecutive groups (10 cold bore shots), and overlap them so you have one big group that takes into account any point of impact shift.
@elkhuntr2816 first, sorry if that came across the wrong way. Caught me at a bad time. I totally understand the internet sub moa claims people make and cherry picking groups. I just never made a youtube channel to prove to people my skill level or how well a gun shoots. Fortunately this rifle is well, well documented as an exceptionally accurate rifle, despite some of its flaws, but i may one day do what you're asking if I get bored. The amount of time I have in reloads and drive down to my range isn't worth it right now but if I get bored I may do that. The only issue is those expectations may have to shift just a hair wider now, as I am approaching the mark where round counts start eroding the throat and accuracy opens up. I have zero doubt it's still sub moa with 10 shots, just isn't what it used to be. Its primarily a hunting rifle now, and my new range toy is my 7 PRC. I'm consumed with that. But if I have time, and I'm bored enough, I'll throw it in the bag and tote it down there to shoot a group. I cant send it to you unless I have your info, so if you wanna subscribe in case I do do it thats the only way I know of for you to revisit it. It likely won't be during hunting season but maybe right after. Part of me is interested in seeing how much it's opened up at this round count myself. Not many people have put this many rounds through these rifles. I should probably show how much empty 6.5 brass I have as proof of round count too. In fact, I'm liking that idea the more I think of it. Have a couple product reviews I've gotta knock out first though.
Oh man only going out to 500, that SWFA I run is going to be very hard to beat. There's a bunch that are great if you're only going to 500, just make sure the glass is clear and tracking is there. Magnification will NOT be an issue at 500. I've shot irons out to 600. Not optimal, sure, but you won't need over 10x at all. Even small targets. Just make sure your reticle is thin enough also. Many people buy a scope with a thick reticle and it covers their target. Personally I have the swfa which I'd recommend all day long everyday, the Primary Arms apollo 6.5 which is pretty good, and the Vortex Diamondback tactical ffp. All will do 500 yards easy. Hell I shoot 500 with my 22 and the diamondback
Hey Brock I was thinking About going with the ruger american hunter in 6.5...it has the heavy barrel and break. But it has a 20 in. Barrel. What do you think about it. I was thinking about getting the predator and doing a stock swap like you did bc it has the 22 in barrel. In stuck between the 2.
That extra velocity you'll get out of the 22" is worth it, considering it's already on the slow end of the 6.5 velocity wise. Also, I may be wrong, but I don't think those are exactly the same gun. I was thinking one wasn't cold hammer forged or 5R rifling or something. Just my .02, but the guns are relatively cheap, so I'd add the stock later and shoot today with 100% the right gun instead of have the stock today and possibly have a gun that limits you at some point.
@@brockedandloaded6034 thats what i was thinking. Get the predator, swap stocks, drop a nice scope on. The ruger hunter3 in 6.5 has a bull barrel and already haa the muzzlebreak. I just dont want I lose the velocity. Ita hard to walk away from the american hunter in 6.5 bc it has everything already but the.2 extra inches.
My Ruger American predator must've been sanded at the factory because mine is currently a 0.35-0.38 pretty much cutting holes at 100 & still 0.50-0.75 moa at 200. Gun is toped with vortex diamondback tatical FFP ebc-2r in 4-16x44. Hornady precision 143 eldx
Thank you, I'm actually so happy with it , that probably not going to change anything until I bed it and see if I can get out to 1000, thanks for the reply, looking forward to your next video!
I do, but I think at some point you start getting into rifles like Savage 110s and stuff which I think are definitely worth considering. I think at 500 I'd maybe go Savage. It's hard though.
The new models for the predator and ranch have much better stocks. Very ridged and stiff. For the magazine fed predator, you have to rock it in almost like an ak and it goes in smooth. Its not defective because its plastic.
It works with either version. In fact most people buy this to get a standard AI type mag inlet. If you have the rotary mag version and get this you can use the provided Magpul mag that comes with it and after market ones also depending on caliber.
I can't remember. Just went to home Depot and got epoxy for plastics. It was more like a Bondo type paste, but if I did it again, I'd 100% use the mix together clear epoxy in different tubes. I think it would last longer. But when I did it it did work. Just didn't feel like it would last forever if you know what I mean.
Try googling gun deals. Its a website I use for things all the time. Really good deals. Or you can look on ebay and just search Ruger American Magpul Hunter short action. I've seen it on there for pretty cheap
I honestly don't remember. Until I walk my lazy butt outside into the garage to verify, I'm 90% sure it was the medium. I think low was extremely close to touching so I went medium just to be safe. Turned out well. I can look and get back to you though. I'm halfway through Goose Island Kentucky Bourbon Stout right now so might be tomorrow haha.
I literally bought this gun Friday and ordered the makeup stock today... I have a small cerakote operation and thinking about coating this barreled action. Might wait for the scope first though. Athlon optics is pretty local to me (Kansas) and I've been eyeing an 8-32x56 FFP they have for this rifle. I've never attempted a shot beyond 300 yards before. You've convinced me to go all in on this rifle. I'll have roughly $1250 in it total. But a 1 mile gun for that price is very reasonable.
@@Damnitmathew absolutely. One thing to keep in mind is elevation. I think if I remember correctly the one drawback to the athlon scopes, which are pretty awesome, is that they don't have a lot of adjustment. The SWFA has quite a bit. Not trying to sell you on that one, just wanted to make sure you knew you'll need a lot for long range. I also have a 20 moa base, to further increase my usable elevation, and still needed to holdover 14 moa. If you're going straight long range, I'd probably get a 30-40 moa base. Keep in mind reticle size also. The finer the reticle the more of the target you can see. The thicker the more it will mask it at that distance. I'd go for clarity over magnification all day long. Just a few things to keep in mind. Thanks for watching man let me know how it turns out.
Brocked and Loaded The outfitter is 120 gr GMX. It’s a great round. That and the Black 140gr both shot less than 1” triangular groups at 100 yards. With the Precision Hunter 144 gr ELD-X I shot just under 1” straight group, no triangulation. It was about a 10 mph wind that day and I don’t claim to be the best shot, but that’s what I came up with.
Love your videos brother! You have inspired me to build a similar rig. I wonder if you or anyone else could please help a fellow overseas gun-brother out by sheding light on the following questions: 1. What is the distance between the barrel rim to the closest part of the stock? I am asking because it'll inform my choice overlapping suppressor to come. Currently investigataing my native Swedish Stalon suppressors. 2. Is it possible to load this rifle directly via the chamber? Cheers! :)
Thanks! And thanks for watching. I'll measure it when I get home. You're asking about barrel clearance right? Like gap distance between the barrel and stock? And yes, you can breach feed it with a magazine in.
Nope. Plenty of clearance. It will probably fit an aftermarket barrel of a pretty thick profile too so no worries if you burn the factory one out about it not fitting. Not sure on MSRP. I paid 279 I think at Cabela's. Pretty sure I've seen them as low as 229.
Got mine today from primary arms 209 to the door. Then a 6-24x50 diamond back tactical from B&H photo 299. Was ringing 4/10 at 1000 with the green stock then used my buddies set up like this and it’s like shooting 100 yard huge improvement
It's a PWS PRC brake. I caught it on sale for like 20$. It definitely works, hut not for the premium normal price of like over 100$. If get something else like a VG6 or Lantac dragon before I paid that much for this one.
It an SWFA SS (super sniper) fixed 10x MOA quad reticle with rear focus. Id recommend the 12x if you plan on shooting past 1000, or maybe even the 16x if you plan on shooting past 1000 mostly. Look up Tiborasaurus Rex UA-cam channel and his review on the SWFA SS. It's the most in depth review out there. I can confirm everything he says is 100% spot on. His scope review video with tracking, clarity, features, etc is worth checking out too. This scored extremely high on it.
Have you had any feeding issues with the magpul stock. I just got the Ruger predator in 6.5 creedmoor and the magpul stock but it down not like to feed the cartridges properly.
With the provided magazine, not at all. The off the shelf AICS Magpul mags I have. It doesn't like the ten rounders as much. First few rounds submarine going in and jam. Unless you go really slow
Squatch Rescue Tactical my 5 round magpul mag that came with the stock did the same thing. I purchased separate a 10 round magpul magazine and that feeds fine. It is the magazine. I emailed magpul and they are sending me out another 5 round magazine. Just email or call magpul they will send you another.
Thanks for the input. I ordered 2 more magazines and took a dremel to the feed lips of the one I was having trouble with. I’ll contact magpul and see if I can get a replacement.
Brocked and Loaded I have the box AI mags and it almost seems like a feed ramp issue, but possibly an issue with the mag, because the last round of the mag will load just fine, but all the ones before that will not go into the chamber unless you back the bolt out and hit the round into the chamber a few times
@@steeleoliver3619 are you using the longer mags? Or the one it came with? My 5 rounder it came with works fine but the ten round one I purchased sometimes has an issue with the first few rounds. Once I get past those the last rounds feed fine. Almost like a spring issue or something. I do know the Magpul mag that comes with the stock is slightly different than the ones you buy. Not sure how, but they confirmed it. I remember reading that a while back.
Recently bought the Ruger American Hunter 6.5 with the grey stock. I love it! This thing is a tack driver! I topped it off with a Vortex 4-16x44 Viper HS LR and it is perfect for it.
I’m looking between Ruger American hunter and the predator do you find the 20 inch barrel to be any sort of issue at long range and are you getting sub moa?Thanks not a lot of info out there on the hunter
T Ww with a longer barrel you’ll get better accuracy at further distances
Good to hear Kyle! Just ordered the Ruger American Hunter in 6.5 with the desert tan stock. 22 inch heavy barrel with the ruger muzzle break. It’ll be topped with an Athlon Helos BTR 6-24x50 with IR MIL. Have a Texas hog trip all set up next winter so I’m dying to get it to the range once it comes in next week and get it zeroed on some steel.
Daniel Ricci out of interest what height scope rings did you go for?
Thank you. Good looking rifle. 1/4-3/4 MOA impressive. Accurate rifles are one of the best things in life👍🏼
Scott Milam the rifle is really good I have it and it’s outstanding
I ordered mine. Can't wait to take it to the range. Thanks for your input.
That SWFA is the hidden gem of budget long range shooting. I absolutely love mine and my RAP
It's rapture go to glass. No...it's not a $5k S&B but the SS 10x42mm is indeed a hard core mil spec unit (still seeing use in the middle east) that has decent glass, 100% accurate tracking turrets at a ridiculous affordable price.
It’s really chapping the asses of some guys that budget Ruger rifle is capable of shooting so well and it’s not just the 6.5 round either. They’ve been impressive with the .308 & .243 as well.
Can't wait to get my ruger Hunter 6.5. Been saving and Im so close now I can smell the gunpowder.
My Ruger American Predator in 6.5 CR shot about 2MOA out of the box. Added muzzle brake, 30MOA scope mount for long range shooting but was still about 1.5 MOA. Then put the Magpul stock on and suddenly I had a rifle that shoots .75 MOA and occasionally I get a .5 MOA group. I love this rifle. Even with all the additional purchases to get it to run good, it's still a very affordable rifle.
Nice. What ammo were you shooting?
You are exactly right. I have nothing against the guys who can afford 5k or 10k for a gun, that's just out of my budget. I am not saying that my first Creedmoor w/Vortex Scope (for $349), and on it's first hunt dropped an 8 pt @243 yds, is better than yours. I am just saying don't be mad at my budget. I also have the Ruger 6.5 GoWild (cause it was purrtty), lol... 4 groupings of three, all touching....No one is saying it's the greatest round or gun ever, but, you also can't deny the results.
And for a decent price, which is what Ruger is known for. Awesome.
Great Rifle. Shot mine this AM under 1moa. All Stock with a coil cut off the trigger spring. Hornady 140gr hpbt and Barnes 127gr copper bullets.
Nice! I cut two coils off because I wanted it low as possible for ELR. The trigger is pretty good after the coil cut modification.
Brocked and Loaded this may sound stupid.... but are you literally just clipping the spring so it’s a shorter pull?
Same length of pull but reduces the brake. And yes clipped two coils of and sanded back down.
I bought one three years ago paid $325 for it put an mdt chassis under it vortex viper pst gen ll changed some internal parts on the bolt anarchy outdoors cut some coils off the trigger spring shoots great 👍🏻👍🏻🇺🇸🇺🇸🇺🇸🇺🇸
I have this gun. But I built mine. It hadn't been invented yet. I got one of the first Magpul Hunter stocks. Ruger predator. I can shoot .333 moa. Have achieved 1/4. It's as good as my Howa chassis rifle. I also shoot the Hornady. They are affordable on sale.
Any more video on this rifle, just added the Magpul stock to mine.
I've got another one about shooting a mile with it, but no, haven't made much more about it. I'll try to get some more content with it.
I had my RA Predator in 22-250 at the range. the guy scoffed at me and said i needed an AI to shoot good groups. Load testing.. was all sub moa.. on load testing. He left the range. I think he was upset with his life choices.
That's awesome man. Guys like that need to be humbled and no better way to make them realize money can't buy talent than to shoot lights out. Expensive guns are nice, and high quality, but that doesn't make someone better at shooting. Good for you! 👊
I was the guy who scoffed at you with your RA Predator in 22-250. You need an AI to shoot good groups. You were way over MOA... on load testing. I left the range. I was happy with my life choices.
@@adambees2174 "I was happy with my choices," yet here he is looking at reviews of the Ruger rifle. lmao You're a loser. Sell your AI for psychology courses. It'd do you good.
put that boy Adam out sad🤣
You can get this rifle, a vortex high powered optic, bipod, and front and rear sling points for about $1100 not a bad setup.
Usually you end up paying about 3 times that for that sort of precision.
My local shop has one with the Vortex scope, and sling points for $699. My buddy is about to but it.
Bought mine last week with the magpul stock installed
I won an 18” 6.5 Creedmoor with the Magpul stock Monday. Picked it up yesterday. Gotta figure out what scope and suppressor I’m going to put on it.
Won?!? That's awesome man!
Mine absolutely loves the 143
Mine too. I found out this hunting season it may like the 143 the best
I’ve taken two deer, one at 100 yards and one at 130, neither went more than 10 feet.
@@richvalentine1889 nice. Took a pretty good sized doe last year at about 75 and it fell over immediately and didn't move
Awesome factory ammo!
I just took out my new Ruger American Hunter 6.5 CM, which already has the Magul stock on it. It is a tack driver, but I'm having feeding issues with Remington Core-Lokt, 140 Grain and Winchester Power Point, 129 grain. The gun runs perfectly with the Hornady American Whitetail, 129 Grain Jacketed Soft Point, which has the more pointed tip. Anyone else having feeding issues?
@patrickhershey3134 I've only ever shot 140eldm 143eldx and maybe some winchester deer season xp which all have similar pointed tips. Zero issues. Idk
Exceptional project kit; would be nice if Ruger would sell the barreled action only. Then head to Anarchy Outdoors for the needed bits & pieces. Stocks, super high quality bolt components, Timney trigger, 30 & 40 moa replacement pic rails, etc. One can build a exceptional kit at an affordable price.
I agree. That would be sweet
Hey man love the video even tho it’s been out for awhile you still have this rifle
@HarvestAlaska I do. It's still an awesome rifle, and I also shoot a 7 PRC this year. But when I have any issue at all with any rifle, like scope (Vortex had to be sent back) or my 300blk ATN scope needs to be rezeroed, I ALWAYS go back to grabbing this rifle. I know it's on the money and I trust it.
@@brockedandloaded6034 right on bro I love to see the budget stuff get it done you should bring it out and make a video banging some steel what do you have in 7prc like to see a video on that to bro good stuff u put out
@@HarvestAlaska thanks. I've got a Savage 110 Ultralite in 7 PRC with an Arken EPL 4-16x
Just build the same rifle and was wondering if you had a uneven gap on either side of the free float barrel? Been trying to figure out if issue is on ruger or magpul.
I don't think so but can't remember. I can look and get back to you. At work today
@@brockedandloaded6034 appreciate the response, get back to me when you can.
Hey BL
Great video. A big reason leading me to get the Ruger American Hunter .308 as my first hunting rifle. I did have a question tho if you can help me out. I'm contemplating between buying the American Hunter as-is from my dealer for around $800. And the other option is doing a build, buying a Ruger predator (~450) then buying a magpul stock (~250).. From my understanding and research the gun itself barrel/receiver is all the same. The only difference i'm seeing is the Ruger break the Hunter comes with. Do you know what i'm missing in the two compersions or options? seems like a no brainer pricewise, but not seeing much info about people building from base vs buying the Hunter (most videos are out dated pre-Hunter release from Ruger)
I'm not 100% on this, but on the Facebook group for Ruger Amemrican rifles it seems like they are quite the same. The hunter actually has a slightly thicker barrel if I remember correctly, and it's shorter also, right? I was thinking the predator was 22" and the hunter was 18/20".
Personally, it depends on what you want it for. If you're going 308, you may not see the accuracy I'm seeing in the 6.5. For some reason, 6.5 rifles tend to be more accurate out of the box than 308s do. Not to say either are bad, I'd bet money you'll get 3/4 MOA out of a factory 6.5 nine out of ten times. I can't make that bet with a 308. But if it's for hunting, and not shooting extreme long range, it won't matter. Run strelok or a ballistics app and determine the velocity you'll gain/lose between the two models if the barrels are different lengths, and ask if that is going to make a difference in the woods. Its always a tradeoff isn't it? Weight for speed? For the most part anyway
@@brockedandloaded6034 my thinking is to just have this one rifle for all my hunting needs. probably wont shoot out more than 300yrd, so the .308 will just do the job. So factoring that in.. is there a benefit to a larger diameter barrel?
Won't get hot and string shots as fast. But thats not an issue if it's mainly a hunting rifle. For extended target shooting it may matter. Thicker is better
I like the factory stocks. They’re comfortable, the green is cool, and they are lightweight. They are also tough and absorb recoil well.
you know best😃
When you said you sanded the barrel channel and added epoxy, was that on the ORIGINAL stock or did you have to do that to the MAGPUL stock?
Sorry for the confusion. I meant the original Ruger stock. It was flimsy. It actually did really well afterwards. The Magpul one fixed everything no problem though. Stiff, free floated, and bigger channel for aftermarket heavy barrels.
@@brockedandloaded6034 Thanks for the clarification and keep up the great content!
Brocked and Loaded because this has been several months. Does the MagPul stock need sanded and epoxy? I’m looking into one of these for my first long range rifle.
No it's great as it is. Still love it
@@brockedandloaded6034 Perfect. I understand now. Thanks.
Nice hat. 6.5 is addictive. 30 year 6.5 shooter here.
Wow. Swede? Thanks for watching
@@brockedandloaded6034 Yep, swede. 1945 production.
SWFA is very badass glass. Best kept secret in rifle scopes in my opinion unreal value
I agree. I keep going back to this scope.
@@brockedandloaded6034 amen brother. I use the 6x for hunting & 10x for fun. Or 10x for hunting sometimes too. I’m up in Alaska they can really handle a beating and still track like a mother fucker 😎👍🏽
Nice. Man I watch these hunting videos and want to hunt elk or caribou or bear so bad. White tail is fun but those things are huge
Brock, awesome video. I recently purchased a Ruger American 6.5cm predator but it didn't come with the clip that you had with the original setup. Is that what you added or did it come with that clip? It looks like it can hold 5+. Mine can only hold 4 rounds.
I can't remember if mine came with a 4 or 5 round one. I added a ten rounder from magpul, AICS pattern short action 308, but the first two to three rounds have trouble clambering. After that its fine. I typically only use the 4/5 rounder though. No issues there. Mine has a brown follower, which I'm told is specific to the magpul stock
My ruger American came with 2 10 round mags and 1 5 round
What is the different between the Ruger American Predator and Ruger Predator ?
Wound up going with the predator swapped the stock, love this gun
Nice! What stock did you go with?
Unfortunately currently all the ranges up here are currently closed due to covid so ive only got to take it to the range once since the stock swap
Not sure if my first reply posted or not i dont see it i got the indian creek designs mofo chasis mine fires .223 but my friend has the same set up you have and i really love the stock, the way it fires and honestly think i prefer the 6.5, for the price its a hell of a gun
At 6:10 you said you had 750-800 rounds through the barrel. Because most 6.5 ammo comes in a 20 round box we will split the difference and say 740-760. At today's prices the average price for non-reloaded ammo (that I have seen locally here in Indiana) is priced from $40-$65 a box depending on brand. So we will use the average of $55 which is the most common price I have seen locally. As of March 2021 to shoot 740 rounds it is $2035 and for 760 rounds it is $2145. That's only if you can get your hands on any ammo. I only got my 6.5 last year during the pandemic because a buddy was freaking out and needed money. I love my Ruger American 6.5 but damn is the ammo expensive. (and damn was I bored to do all that math) :)
Haha don't worry it will come back down. When I was buying it it was around 1-1.25 a round. Like 20-25 bucks a box for the eldm
Am sure I'm the one confused here, but isn't that the Ruger American *Hunter*? Looks different than the Predators I've seen. Just trying to figure out what I'm missing, been looking at these guns and trying to understand.
No its the Predator, but I added an aftermarket magpul "hunter" stock, that comes factory on the Ruger American Hunter. However, the Roger American hunter and the Roger American predator arent exactly the same rifle. Different barrel profiles and lemgths.
@@brockedandloaded6034 Ah, got it. Thank you for helping me with that.
I like that choice, it looks a lot a better.
@@BrentonDowdy no problem. Definitely confusing
Creedmoore, Creedmoore, Creedmoore, now it's 6.8 Grenell, what about the 6.8 Remington SPC? Roundup reviews needed but not limited to one cal, whata think?
I've got the same setup in 6.5 CM, super accurate. It loves the ELD bullets by Hornady. Hats off to Magpul for that stock. A little heavy for stalking deer or elk but doable. I bought the rifle including a Vortex 4-12 scope from Cabelas for about $650. Add the Magpul stock for $300. That's under $1k complete for a very competent rifle. It's a keeper !
That's a sweet deal! Which vortex? Diamondback or what? Also, do you hunt with it? I'm curious on that end how it does against different game. That's what I'll probably get into next. Thanks for watching!
@@brockedandloaded6034 It's the Crossfire 2 by Vortex. I'm sure it's Vortex's cheapy scope but it's pretty nice. I've not hunted with it yet - this fall. Thanks much for the vid!
Great review! I may have missed it, do you have a 20" or 22" barrel?
22"
Do you have more pics or a video of epoxying the stock? Great videos. 👊🏻
I don't unfortunately. I just took the stock off, poured the epoxy in, let it set up, then took a socket that was the right size as the barrel channel in diameter and wrapped it in sandpaper and sanded it down until the barrel was free floating again. Kept putting the action back in over and over checking. Then sanding some more. Wish I had video of it now. It wasn't really hard though. I just figured if I screwed it up it would give me an excuse to buy the Magpul
Hahah. Well I’m going to give it a try now. Good logic with the magpul backup plan. They look great and sounds like increased accuracy. So the epoxy was cheap, but if you were to do it again, what kind would you use? Thanks in advance long gun Jedi
I’m putting together essentially the same rifle. I noticed my scope is mounted about where yours is and it seems farther back then most peoples. Are you able to remove the bolt or do you have to remove the cheek riser first? Great video!
Thanks! So I can get my bolt out barely. I have to rotate it so the angled part of the shroud is down giving you clearance to take it further back. It would definitely be a pain it it wouldn't. Have you tried that?
Brocked and Loaded I can get it out, barely as well. It seems to be more of a PITA to put it back in.
Nice video! How many rounds does that magazine hold? Was that purchased separately?
It's either 4 or 5. I can never remember because I usually use the 10 round magpul one I bought later.
And no that one came with the stock
Would be nice to see what it really can do. No cherry picked groups. Show 10 3 shot groups in a row.
@elkhuntr2816 I haven't cherry picked anything. This rifle has quite literally never shot a group over 1". Ever. I'm about 1500 rounds through by my best estimation, and Ive taken it out to a mile going 4/5. Its an absolute shooter. I'm not saying every one out there will shoot this well, but it does. Where dI'd you get the idea I cherry picked a group?
@@brockedandloaded6034 "Where dI'd you get the idea I cherry picked a group?" Its my assumption based on what most youtubers are doing. Once they shoot the first MOA group, they stop. That's meaningless. The next group could be 2" because all shots will be randomly dispersed. If you have truly shot 1500 rounds (500 groups?) and never shot over MOA, that would be truly rare indeed, especially with no point of impact change. A lot of people would love to see that. Its very helpful when trying to make a decision on a hunting rifle. Just show us 10 consecutive groups (10 cold bore shots), and overlap them so you have one big group that takes into account any point of impact shift.
@elkhuntr2816 first, sorry if that came across the wrong way. Caught me at a bad time. I totally understand the internet sub moa claims people make and cherry picking groups. I just never made a youtube channel to prove to people my skill level or how well a gun shoots. Fortunately this rifle is well, well documented as an exceptionally accurate rifle, despite some of its flaws, but i may one day do what you're asking if I get bored. The amount of time I have in reloads and drive down to my range isn't worth it right now but if I get bored I may do that. The only issue is those expectations may have to shift just a hair wider now, as I am approaching the mark where round counts start eroding the throat and accuracy opens up. I have zero doubt it's still sub moa with 10 shots, just isn't what it used to be. Its primarily a hunting rifle now, and my new range toy is my 7 PRC. I'm consumed with that. But if I have time, and I'm bored enough, I'll throw it in the bag and tote it down there to shoot a group. I cant send it to you unless I have your info, so if you wanna subscribe in case I do do it thats the only way I know of for you to revisit it. It likely won't be during hunting season but maybe right after. Part of me is interested in seeing how much it's opened up at this round count myself. Not many people have put this many rounds through these rifles. I should probably show how much empty 6.5 brass I have as proof of round count too. In fact, I'm liking that idea the more I think of it. Have a couple product reviews I've gotta knock out first though.
Is that the original Barrel or did you put an aftermarket on
Original
I’m gonna buy the .308 version, any recommendations on budget scopes? Really only looking to shoot 500yds
Oh man only going out to 500, that SWFA I run is going to be very hard to beat. There's a bunch that are great if you're only going to 500, just make sure the glass is clear and tracking is there. Magnification will NOT be an issue at 500. I've shot irons out to 600. Not optimal, sure, but you won't need over 10x at all. Even small targets. Just make sure your reticle is thin enough also. Many people buy a scope with a thick reticle and it covers their target. Personally I have the swfa which I'd recommend all day long everyday, the Primary Arms apollo 6.5 which is pretty good, and the Vortex Diamondback tactical ffp. All will do 500 yards easy. Hell I shoot 500 with my 22 and the diamondback
Get the MCARBO trigger spring for $13, that's the only upgrade you "need" for the new models.
I clipped two coils off the factory spring and mine is perfect. I have heard the mcarbo is a good option also.
@@brockedandloaded6034 iv seen some use a spring from a mechanical pen.
Hey Brock I was thinking About going with the ruger american hunter in 6.5...it has the heavy barrel and break. But it has a 20 in. Barrel. What do you think about it. I was thinking about getting the predator and doing a stock swap like you did bc it has the 22 in barrel. In stuck between the 2.
That extra velocity you'll get out of the 22" is worth it, considering it's already on the slow end of the 6.5 velocity wise.
Also, I may be wrong, but I don't think those are exactly the same gun. I was thinking one wasn't cold hammer forged or 5R rifling or something. Just my .02, but the guns are relatively cheap, so I'd add the stock later and shoot today with 100% the right gun instead of have the stock today and possibly have a gun that limits you at some point.
@@brockedandloaded6034 thats what i was thinking. Get the predator, swap stocks, drop a nice scope on. The ruger hunter3 in 6.5 has a bull barrel and already haa the muzzlebreak. I just dont want I lose the velocity. Ita hard to walk away from the american hunter in 6.5 bc it has everything already but the.2 extra inches.
@@brockedandloaded6034 hey was you shooting in SC
@@stephenknecht7189 I was. Clinton house in Clinton, SC
@@brockedandloaded6034 really. Are you in SC. I live in the upstate
My Ruger American predator must've been sanded at the factory because mine is currently a 0.35-0.38 pretty much cutting holes at 100 & still 0.50-0.75 moa at 200. Gun is toped with vortex diamondback tatical FFP ebc-2r in
4-16x44. Hornady precision 143 eldx
Nice!
Thank you, I'm actually so happy with it , that probably not going to change anything until I bed it and see if I can get out to 1000, thanks for the reply, looking forward to your next video!
Well after you change the bold and the insides, are have a $1000 rifle.
Do still feel like it's still a good deal for this even at $499? That's the cheapest I've seen. Thanks.
I do, but I think at some point you start getting into rifles like Savage 110s and stuff which I think are definitely worth considering. I think at 500 I'd maybe go Savage. It's hard though.
The new models for the predator and ranch have much better stocks. Very ridged and stiff. For the magazine fed predator, you have to rock it in almost like an ak and it goes in smooth. Its not defective because its plastic.
did you sand and epoxy the magpul stock or the standard stock?
The standard one.
@@brockedandloaded6034 Awesome, did you do anything to the Magpul one?
Nope. It was ready to go out of the box.
Does this stock work with an American Predator that has stock rotary mag? Or do I need the AI version of the rifle for this stock to work?
It works with either version. In fact most people buy this to get a standard AI type mag inlet. If you have the rotary mag version and get this you can use the provided Magpul mag that comes with it and after market ones also depending on caliber.
You may have already answered this, but what epoxy did you use for the stock?
I can't remember. Just went to home Depot and got epoxy for plastics. It was more like a Bondo type paste, but if I did it again, I'd 100% use the mix together clear epoxy in different tubes. I think it would last longer. But when I did it it did work. Just didn't feel like it would last forever if you know what I mean.
Do you have any links to where I can get that stock
Try googling gun deals. Its a website I use for things all the time. Really good deals. Or you can look on ebay and just search Ruger American Magpul Hunter short action. I've seen it on there for pretty cheap
what scope ring height did you use?
I honestly don't remember. Until I walk my lazy butt outside into the garage to verify, I'm 90% sure it was the medium. I think low was extremely close to touching so I went medium just to be safe. Turned out well. I can look and get back to you though. I'm halfway through Goose Island Kentucky Bourbon Stout right now so might be tomorrow haha.
I literally bought this gun Friday and ordered the makeup stock today... I have a small cerakote operation and thinking about coating this barreled action. Might wait for the scope first though. Athlon optics is pretty local to me (Kansas) and I've been eyeing an 8-32x56 FFP they have for this rifle. I've never attempted a shot beyond 300 yards before. You've convinced me to go all in on this rifle. I'll have roughly $1250 in it total. But a 1 mile gun for that price is very reasonable.
@@Damnitmathew absolutely. One thing to keep in mind is elevation. I think if I remember correctly the one drawback to the athlon scopes, which are pretty awesome, is that they don't have a lot of adjustment. The SWFA has quite a bit. Not trying to sell you on that one, just wanted to make sure you knew you'll need a lot for long range. I also have a 20 moa base, to further increase my usable elevation, and still needed to holdover 14 moa. If you're going straight long range, I'd probably get a 30-40 moa base. Keep in mind reticle size also. The finer the reticle the more of the target you can see. The thicker the more it will mask it at that distance. I'd go for clarity over magnification all day long. Just a few things to keep in mind. Thanks for watching man let me know how it turns out.
Not sure if I ever confirmed it but I did look yesterday when cleaning the garage up and found the box. Seekins medium rings.
South Carolina?
Yes
So far I've had the best accuracy out of the Hornady Black and Outfitter. The Precision Hunter did very well but not as good.
Never tried the outfitter. I'll have to try that. The eld x shot really really well out of mine
Brocked and Loaded The outfitter is 120 gr GMX. It’s a great round. That and the Black 140gr both shot less than 1” triangular groups at 100 yards. With the Precision Hunter 144 gr ELD-X I shot just under 1” straight group, no triangulation. It was about a 10 mph wind that day and I don’t claim to be the best shot, but that’s what I came up with.
Wow! 750 rounds through it already and at current ammo prices, that’s over twice the cost of the rifle just in 6.5 creedmore cost! Do your reload?
I do but I've had quite a time with reloading for it. I eventually went back to factory ammo. Got some reloading things to work through
Love your videos brother! You have inspired me to build a similar rig. I wonder if you or anyone else could please help a fellow overseas gun-brother out by sheding light on the following questions:
1. What is the distance between the barrel rim to the closest part of the stock? I am asking because it'll inform my choice overlapping suppressor to come. Currently investigataing my native Swedish Stalon suppressors.
2. Is it possible to load this rifle directly via the chamber?
Cheers! :)
Thanks! And thanks for watching. I'll measure it when I get home. You're asking about barrel clearance right? Like gap distance between the barrel and stock?
And yes, you can breach feed it with a magazine in.
Brocked and Loaded
Thanks for your fast reply. 😃 I have illustrated the measurement that I am looking for in the following image:
ibb.co/jZRSZtQ
So if i got the magpul stock i wouldnt have to do any sanding to the barrel? And whats the msrp on the stock?
Nope. Plenty of clearance. It will probably fit an aftermarket barrel of a pretty thick profile too so no worries if you burn the factory one out about it not fitting. Not sure on MSRP. I paid 279 I think at Cabela's. Pretty sure I've seen them as low as 229.
Got mine today from primary arms 209 to the door. Then a 6-24x50 diamond back tactical from B&H photo 299. Was ringing 4/10 at 1000 with the green stock then used my buddies set up like this and it’s like shooting 100 yard huge improvement
@@1991kirby awesome to hear! How's you like that scope?
@@1991kirby wait, you got the rifle for 209$?????!!!?
Now i got the rifle for $150 because of academies screw up. The stock was 209 still is till Saturday
What brake are you running
It's a PWS PRC brake. I caught it on sale for like 20$. It definitely works, hut not for the premium normal price of like over 100$. If get something else like a VG6 or Lantac dragon before I paid that much for this one.
Is this available in left hand action?
I'm not sure, but I believe it is in certain calibers
I have a left-handed Ruger American predator in 6.5 creedmore. Nice rifle!
What's your height over bore?
1.94"
@@brockedandloaded6034 thank you!
Hey great video ! Ruger offers 2 models of the 6.5 creedmoor Predator . which twist rate did you get?
1/8. You're talking about the gen 1 and gen 2? I thought they were both 1/8?
That is sick 👍👍👍
Thanks!
@@brockedandloaded6034 what scope are you using?
An SWFA SS Fixed 10x. Love it
What muzzle break did use on the RAP 6.5CM?
Should have read further I see it now...
I wish that stock came in left hand!
what optic is that?
Thinking about getting into precision rifle. In the research phase. You mentioned you like the scope. What's the model?
It an SWFA SS (super sniper) fixed 10x MOA quad reticle with rear focus. Id recommend the 12x if you plan on shooting past 1000, or maybe even the 16x if you plan on shooting past 1000 mostly. Look up Tiborasaurus Rex UA-cam channel and his review on the SWFA SS. It's the most in depth review out there. I can confirm everything he says is 100% spot on. His scope review video with tracking, clarity, features, etc is worth checking out too. This scored extremely high on it.
Where did you get the barrel from?
It's the factory barrel
Every body had better be budget conscious!!!
Have you had any feeding issues with the magpul stock. I just got the Ruger predator in 6.5 creedmoor and the magpul stock but it down not like to feed the cartridges properly.
With the provided magazine, not at all. The off the shelf AICS Magpul mags I have. It doesn't like the ten rounders as much. First few rounds submarine going in and jam. Unless you go really slow
Squatch Rescue Tactical my 5 round magpul mag that came with the stock did the same thing. I purchased separate a 10 round magpul magazine and that feeds fine. It is the magazine. I emailed magpul and they are sending me out another 5 round magazine. Just email or call magpul they will send you another.
Thanks for the input. I ordered 2 more magazines and took a dremel to the feed lips of the one I was having trouble with. I’ll contact magpul and see if I can get a replacement.
One thing for sure the gun is really heavy
Ehh, it isn't particularly light but I hunt with it
Anyone else having issues feeding right out the box?
What's the issue and it's it the rotary mad or box mag version
Brocked and Loaded I have the box AI mags and it almost seems like a feed ramp issue, but possibly an issue with the mag, because the last round of the mag will load just fine, but all the ones before that will not go into the chamber unless you back the bolt out and hit the round into the chamber a few times
@@steeleoliver3619 are you using the longer mags? Or the one it came with? My 5 rounder it came with works fine but the ten round one I purchased sometimes has an issue with the first few rounds. Once I get past those the last rounds feed fine. Almost like a spring issue or something. I do know the Magpul mag that comes with the stock is slightly different than the ones you buy. Not sure how, but they confirmed it. I remember reading that a while back.
Brocked and Loaded it’s the 5 round one that came with it, but I suppose I’ll contact ruger and try to get them to send me another mag
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Hey brock. Man I finally got my build done.. Id send ya a picture if I could hit ya up on fb
Yeah man send me one I wanna see it
@@brockedandloaded6034 what's your name on fb
@@stephenknecht7189 I sent you a message
And this was before the 6 mile shots you made. Yeah, the original stock sucked @$$.
What height scope rings do you have?
Medium Seekins Precision
What kind of bipod did you get?
Harris BRM-S
What kind of bipod do you have on that weapon?
Harris 6-9" BRM-S with pod lock
@@brockedandloaded6034 thank you