I mean to fair all persona games do go “we going to beat shit out you” it just with persona 4 and 5 it more like “we going to save you.....by beating the shit out of you!”
Not gonna lie. I've seen some crazy plots before but never in my wildest dreams did I ever consider Nazis dropping mechs into Japan in order to capture some alien technology. All for that to have been because two godly entities made a bet. This game is wild.
This is something they have to put in nowadays because the Japanese rating board, CERO, has a regulation against using real life people and organizations in video games. That rule was implemented after the release of Persona 2 on PlayStation, which is why the PSP version is censored. Look the original "last batalion" cutscene up, there are Swastikas everywhere.
@@Outside998 Based and Reichpilled. Shame weakness of mind is pushed everywhere ever more. Imagine the hilarious stuff we'd get, if the 'public' wasn't all about keeping a bunch of bad lies and misguided correctness guidelines enforced.
@@kichiroumitsurugi4363 _ESPECIALLY_ if they're exposing your deepest, darkest, most embarrassing secrets...which is pretty much always the case give the nature of things...
I like to headcanon that the team members of these games are ALL wildcards but they are Not as Developed as the 'true' wildcards Minato, Yu and Joker who can summon God killing Personas. Kinda like Adachi or Akechi.
It's not the wild card, it's affinities. Wild Cards are stronger cause they can use any persona with no downsides. Affinities allow you to use any persona but have a lot of downsides if you have little affinity with them and you straight up can't use them if you have no affinity.
@@harishramachandra1746 as in a Persona fuelled by several Arcanas that is capable of easily dispatching Gods of the human subconcious. An ultimate persona that due to being fuelled by a 'true' wildcard can reach more power than a normal ultimate ever would. Messiah, Izanagi no Okami, Satanael you know?
Tatsuya shares an English VA with Shido and now I can’t stop thinking about the cursed timeline where Tatsuya doesn’t meet the main characters, changes his name to Masayoshi Shido, and becomes a corrupt politician.
Its really the only saving grace to the ending. The ending sucks, a lot. Genuinely awful. So punching philemon is what keeps it as a 0.1 instead of a flat 0
@@tylerlackey1175 It's awful for a reason. It's to show that even with all the power in the world, a bunch of Persona users are nothing compared to a god
@@tylerlackey1175 I played P5, I played Nocturne, I played P4G. And honestly, the end of the world in IS was a better way to wrap things up, even if I am iffy on allowing a timeline reset after this
@@kichiroumitsurugi4363 Its not the end of the world, however it is a waste of fucking time. I spent 2 weeks sloughing through the last boring half of IS and only to find out none of it was worth it and we have to undo it all. Even a fucking redditor wouldn't think it's a good ending. Very poorly done, not bothering with eternal punishment
@@ghoxtlyrose4724Honestly, I don't actually know.He is said to be the demon of sloth,so maybe that's why or maybe the medieval rumors of demons coming out of the toilet played a role in how he is depicted.
Yeah, if he decides to do a run with Persona 2:Eternal Punishment, I really want to see him struggle in the Guido(if he play Nate's Route) and Metal Trio fight. Especially with Metal Trio, when Metal Jun have that damn Terror Fortune.
That is possibly the most accurate depiction of what would happen if the earth stopped rotating. The earth's rotation is responsible for a ton of different day to day effects like our day/night cycle, seasons, high tide and low tide(with help from the moon), and most importantly gravity. Every living being on earth would die if that happened so good on you game.
Man from all persona protagonist's in the series Tatsuya suffered the most, Naoya was just there, Makoto/Hamuko lost their parents in a car crash and were transformed to seal to make sure mankind survived, Yu nearly lost nanako, and Joker was treated like shit for a crime he didn't commit. But Tatsuya watched maya get killed, None of his friends remember him, was forced into a rigged gamble against Philemon and nyarletholep, among other stuff. The poor guy can't catch a break
In terms of Personal Bad Endings, both Hamuko/Kitaro and Tatsuya just evoke: which is worse? Having to forget your friends and they forget you or becoming a seal for how long, sure your friends still remember you but you're now pretty much robbed of any chance to live or pass on.
I actually like that the choices seem to want you to let the other characters do things on their own to 'grow' versus you always being involved assisting. Maybe Persona 3 having the characters go through their proper arcs and 'growing' besides the social links was influenced by that. I vastly prefer the characters developing on their own without you being directly involved all the time.
I know this comment is a few months old but I'm just so glad to see someone else mentioning this about Persona 3. I talk about this all the time when I praise that games characters and plot compared to 4 and 5. I'm not a huge fan about how the protagonists have to be present for almost EVERYTHING that happens in those games, and your party members get almost no development when you're not there with them. Persona 3 wasn't afraid to cut away to focus on the other characters and explore their relationships with each other and how they grow as people over the course of the year. Same thing goes for how Ultimate Personas are obtained. In Persona 3 the characters all gain their Ultimate Personas as part of the main story of the game because their development is directly tied to that story. They each have a defining moment that signifies how they've grown as an individual, and that's when their true power awakens. In Persona 4 and 5, they don't get them unless Yu/Joker is around to listen to them have a one sided conversation with them. Mechanically I know it's a good way of incentivising players to max out party member social links, but I really think it's detrimental to the main story of the games.
@@coneyisland428yeah, i've been saying this. 4 and 5 are directly inferior games because they're afraid of letting the cast exist without the protagonist. 5 has other issues too, but that's a big one.
@@alicevioleta3184 Yeah it's strange that they don't let it happen to the same extent that P3 does. It's probably some idea of wanting the story to feel like it's entirely from the protagonist's perspective, but both P4 and P5 still feature cutaways to other scenes the main character isn't present for. So if you're allowing that, I don't see any reason all the party members have to have their development rigidly bound to the protagonist's presence. Also it just kind of sucks that these party members all have their emotional breakthroughs from just you sitting there listening and occasionally saying a sentence or two lmao. With NPC social links I get why that has to be the case, they can't always be present for the main story to develop, but the cast members were the exception to this in P3 and should have stayed the exception in the following games imo
The main fact that the protagonists has a motorcycle 🏍 automatically makes him the best/coolest main protagonists of the Persona franchise. Also the fact that he’s the only main protagonists that goes from high school to young adult.
Here's an interesting idea for a challenge: Digital Devil Saga human form only? I doubt it's possible, considering your attack is really limited by ammo and you can't use any spell, buffs or debuffs, but you do have items, so I'm curious how far you can get in the game with this idea
I did part of the run using grenades and the OP Cielo gun. Cielo can attack multiple times doing high damage, Arguilla never fails a bullet and crit a lot and the protagonist because... He uses also a gun, I guess.
And now, we wait for Nyarly to suffer by doing this in EP. Note: You severely underestimated mutations, they are still unreliable, but can be broken if you know you'll use the same Personas for a long period of time.
@@derekmartin5340 The thing with the late game bosses in genearl is, Tatsuya's starting Persona is Apollo in EP, so that would lower the dificulty a great deal, especially since Sugawara is weak to fire.
I would like to thank you for introducing me to the persona series, I started playing because of these videos and now the Persona series are some of my favorite
Beat the game about a month ago and what a game that was.... Kinda sad it's usually never acknowledged by Atlus, I hope they remake it at some point so people who can't stand the gameplay get to experience the story and characters
@@bobgray6498 They’d become the brand new fan-favorite games. Plus, people would finally remember the true Persona Chad, Tatsuya Suou(He’s my favorite protagonist for his genuinely tragic life and the way on how they defined his character in both games, but he does gain bonus points in regards to his memetic chad potential being hilariously far greater than even freaking Minato Arisato, who is only ignored because of the more blatant Yu Narukami and Joker). Plus, there’s also the fact that practically most of my favorite characters of each Arcana are in these Games, with Lisa being my all time favorite Lovers Arcana character by a long shot(the only character who has her Lovers arcana actually fully represent her life, even more so than Yukari, and it not defining her personality like Ann and Rise which, while it is interesting on paper, is not how Tarot cards work, where they represent the paths of our lives and the future we face, they aren’t a fancy personality reader, since her actual personality is more akin to Chie, especially with her interactions with Eikichi being similar to Chie’s interactions with Yosuke, without any of the double standards/cliche trope bs that annoyed me in Persona 4). I pretty much have the same opinions as Nyarly on favorite persona games, except 3 is my second favorite and 2 is my absolute favorite.
PSP version is somewhat easier than the fan translation of the PSone version. For example, a single Longinus knight was thought by the game as a different group than the rest, so spells like Maragidyne (or Maha-Agidhain as it's named in that) connect with only one knight when cast, not all of them. (They also spam their lightning attacks more than in the PSP version etc.)
I love this kind of videos. And not really because of the challenge itself, but because you show how knowledgeable you are about these games. Hearing your strategies and how you organize the playthrough is a pure joy. Keep up the great work!
This video got me to start innocent sin and I'm at smile hirasaka. I haven't been fusing demons because I hate the way this game handles negotiation. I mean how the hell am I supposed to know which demons wanna hear my motorcycle impression? I've only been using base personas but I think i'm gonna use the prime and ultimate personas
That was stated in the video. But since if you don't help Ekichi he gets a new persona, according to the rules of the challenge, then this fight is mandatory.
Persona 2 innocent sin from psp was my first megaten game, so it warms my heart to see it having some recognition. Thank you nyarly, nice video as usual.
I love the older Persona/SMT's character artstyle. Really wish they didn't go for the standard anime look in the later games... Also this story is batshit insane lmao.
29:17 the cutscen with the robots The music is so good i love it. I remember seeing the op and seeing the robots being like " what is happening" and now it's like "sh!t is happening."
I want to thank you on a personal level you are one of my biggest inspiration to play as many of the SMT games as possible. I went out of my way to buy physical copies of these games and I wanted to thank you for making me want to play such an amazing game series you really are amazing. These challenges are so difficult and am impressed that you spend the time to do these challenges. So thank you for spending the time to make such amazing content you are my favorite SMT and JRPG content creator
"this is too unreliable to count on though" me, who has a play time of 55 hours in innocent sin because he always wanted to max rank and mutate his personas before continuing the story: oh
wow great job finishing your challenge! I played persona 3 and currently playing 4 from steam and boy persona 2 has a crazy apocalyptic story than I expected. well done
Chikarin is hella cute. Definitely best waifu. The voice acting for this game is honestly a cut above what was available at the time. The Spirit Rib is really nice
man I'm really disappointed hearing the stuff that went down with you nyarly, I hope you better yourself and never hurt someone like how you did to your ex again. we love you and want the best for you, please better yourself
@@noblegalifreyan4551 Wait, what? I didn't hear anything about this. Christ, why does every-other content creator end up being scummy in some way? This sucks.
Such an interesting video! I hope they re-release this game and release the other one too. This was a great challenge, also it looked like Eikichi had the finishing lines for every major battle
To answer it quickly, yes, and it's surprisingly easy. Let's see if Nyarly had difficulty or not (I finished the game like that the 1st time, because I didn't understand the card system)
just finished devil survivor today, and went to download innocent sin, this video arrived, thankfully I didn't start playing, I was going to do a lot of dumb shit
I haven't played the psp version of Innocent Sin (just emulated the ps1 version) so I don't know if it's the same, but as challenging as the gameplay was I really appreciated the fact that if Tatsuya dies, it's not game over. It literally shocked me when I realized the other games didn't work like that.
Head to keeps.com/nyarly to get 50% off your first order of hair loss treatment.
I'm 16, so no
@@BitchChill you never know
@@BitchChill you never know kid
What did you bleep out during the first theater Quest
@@jovif.spemudaindonesia1841 I do
Persona 4: "you're not me! I won't believe it!"
Persona 2: "Stfu and throw hands you bastard."
*Villain has monolouge*
Persona 5: " we can still save you"
Persona 1: " who tf asked bitch? We are going to beat you to death"
I mean to fair all persona games do go “we going to beat shit out you” it just with persona 4 and 5 it more like “we going to save you.....by beating the shit out of you!”
@@bowu1772 I just played them, what the heck are you talking about?
Persona 5: We Aren't killers >:(
Persona 2: If It Bleeds. We Kill It
Kinda unfair tho; Persona 4's characters doesn't have the means to throw hands with their shadows unlike the 2s.
Nyarly:"But first, a word from our sponsor!"
>Tanaka's amazing commodities shop music starts playing
This never gets old
Hello there Cirno.
love that song
@@ilovetweek000 me too
This vid has two modes:
Calm Nyarly explanation
&
"LET'S GO EVERYBODY!"
Y O U A I N 'T W O R T H M Y T I M E
Not gonna lie. I've seen some crazy plots before but never in my wildest dreams did I ever consider Nazis dropping mechs into Japan in order to capture some alien technology. All for that to have been because two godly entities made a bet. This game is wild.
And then be defeated by a bunch of teens
@@morganhe-man3543 With imaginary friends
@@EdyAlbertoMSGT3 And the power of friendship
All that happens simply because citizens of a town believed in Nazis being alive too hard it actually became real
Thanks gonna have to play thru this on my vita
"Sunglass man might not seem so bad at first."-History Teachers when they start the unit on WW2.
True
True
Solid guy, did nothing wrong btw.
He was just a misunderstood artist... Until he murdered half of the european population
So... Is it safe to assume that a world war started because of a misunderstanding?
"Any similarities to people living or dead is purely coincidential" And then they steal Wolfenstein guy.
They are messing with the mein kamph copyright atlus is gonna get sued
This is something they have to put in nowadays because the Japanese rating board, CERO, has a regulation against using real life people and organizations in video games. That rule was implemented after the release of Persona 2 on PlayStation, which is why the PSP version is censored. Look the original "last batalion" cutscene up, there are Swastikas everywhere.
@@Outside998
Based and Reichpilled. Shame weakness of mind is pushed everywhere ever more.
Imagine the hilarious stuff we'd get, if the 'public' wasn't all about keeping a bunch of bad lies and misguided correctness guidelines enforced.
@@Mayhzon I’m pretty sure the “ public “ doesn’t enforce game laws, also what are these “ bad lies and misguided correctness guidelines enforced “ ?
"We are legally required to pretend that Fuhrer is our original character. Do not steal."
“Our girlfriend Lisa”
Man Lisa wishes that was true.
Lisa and Maya best waifu
Nobody has made room jokes
My ears immediately twiched at this
Communism intensifies
Lisa is like Misa from Death Note
Take a shot every time a fight is finished with "LET'S GO, EVERYBODY!"
Weeb
@@BitchChill shut up weeber
Do want me to fuck up my liver?
do you want me to die?
Me, a ghost: Haha, these pathetic drinking games cannot kill me
Hearing eikichi go "shut the fuck up oh my god" to his shadow never gets old, its always so funny to me
P4: You're not me, I don't believe this, this isn't what i'm like!
Eikichi: Nut up or shut up.
@@Ender41948 I'd be pissed too if my Shadow kept blabbering on and on and not get to the damn point
@@kichiroumitsurugi4363 I mean that's basically what Naoto does until you actually get to her.
@@kichiroumitsurugi4363
_ESPECIALLY_ if they're exposing your deepest, darkest, most embarrassing secrets...which is pretty much always the case give the nature of things...
@@diamondseraph9369They can't expose your secrets with a broken jaw 😂
Nyarly: *breathes*
Ekichi: "LET'S GO, EVERYBODY!"
lol
Wildcards: I can use multiple personas! Damn, I must be really special.
Persona 1 & 2 protagonists: LOL.
I like to headcanon that the team members of these games are ALL wildcards but they are Not as Developed as the 'true' wildcards Minato, Yu and Joker who can summon God killing Personas. Kinda like Adachi or Akechi.
@@l30ng62 what's your definition of God killing personas
It's not the wild card, it's affinities. Wild Cards are stronger cause they can use any persona with no downsides. Affinities allow you to use any persona but have a lot of downsides if you have little affinity with them and you straight up can't use them if you have no affinity.
@@l30ng62 It's my headcanon that when Philimon and Nyarly left they took the rules with them.
@@harishramachandra1746 as in a Persona fuelled by several Arcanas that is capable of easily dispatching Gods of the human subconcious. An ultimate persona that due to being fuelled by a 'true' wildcard can reach more power than a normal ultimate ever would. Messiah, Izanagi no Okami, Satanael you know?
Petition to replace ‘I’ve been waiting for this’ with ‘Let’s go everybody’
Why not both?
Eikichi: "LET'S GO EVERYBODY!"
Akihiko: "I'VE BEEN WAITING FOR THIS"
Futaba: "ALL OUT ATTACK!"
"Did ya see that shinji?"
*When doing a fusion spell*
Tatsuya:
Lisa:
Maya:
Yukino:
Jun:
Eikichi: L E T S G O E V E R Y B O D Y
Eikichi: Y O U A I N T W O R T H M Y
T I M E
He's the spirit of the team
It hyped me up each time I heard it, ngl. Like the voice actor.
@@peterhousen7974 it's troy baker lol
@@peterhousen7974 his VA troy baker also voices Kanji and Nanjo
Tatsuya shares an English VA with Shido and now I can’t stop thinking about the cursed timeline where Tatsuya doesn’t meet the main characters, changes his name to Masayoshi Shido, and becomes a corrupt politician.
Do you think that's cursed? In japanese, he's Dio.
@@Neonlight3934 Tatsuya’s persona Apollo can stop time
How about Eikichi and Kanji sharing same VA xD.
Damn brat ill vroom
loses all his hair, steals katsuya's sick glasses
The Tanaka's commodities music during the sponsorship is brilliant LMAO
He clearly devoured the fruit of man
Mothers basement has been doing this for a while. Great minds think alike I guess
You didn't skip it?
As soon as I heard it, i really got interested
Absolutely
Philemon: Now that I'm saving everyone's lives, is there anything you want to say?
Nyarly: *right hook*
@@gaelurquiz5755
It's when he went to Rudy's house after he got stabbed
Did someone keep a “Let’s go, everybody!” counter on hand?
I did. 17 times
I got eleven times, here.
@@tallflipkick wow
After looking at tallflipkick and Hayato's numbers, I came to an "Average" of 14. Let's go with that
You ain't worth my time, m'kay
2 weeks later: Persona 2 IS on the switch
Nah. Persona 2 got a full remake is on PS4/5, Steam, and Switch
@@BitchChill please
@@BitchChill Yes please
@@BitchChill both version in one with updated graphics the battle system can stay the same
@@bloodhuntimintherabbithole3583 and quality of life changes and rebalancing pls
"I don't think ill be doing challenge runs anytime soon after this"
Months later:
I mean, he was right.
Depending on your definition of soon.
I mean I aint complaining
what a dumb comment, this was not "soon"
Room temperature IQ comment
@@TheGoku741 I mean. The wait for this one was just as long if not shorter than any other
I love how Maya & Yukino just fly in all dramatic to soak up that juicy exp
I'm a simple guy: I see Tatsuya, I like instantly
Tatsuya is one of the best persona protagonist
Same here
best persona protag imo
@@anxivty same here
Tatsuya and Makoto are simply the best protagonist.
Eikichi’s little love moment is honestly pretty damn cute.
Eikichi is the most based persona guy. he's great.
"Alright, who spread a rumor about the nazi's coming back with gundams?!"
"At this point this game is almost over"
*minute **40:02** of an almost 80 minute video*
oh my.......
I had the same reaction lol
He does the side quests.
@@HarbingerYT man I just finished p2 the theater fucking SUCKS
Yes, because: fusion spells
Yep too bad modern persona games doesn't have this feature
CAUSE IT"S PAYDAY
Persona 3 was the last one to have fusion spells...
Between the MC's Personas...
@@chainsawplayin Rip Fusion spell
@Nobody arent bacily persona 2 spells showtimes, but since the party members in persona 5 cant change personas they are by characters, not abilities?
The fact that you can hit Philemon at the end just makes this game so much better...
Its really the only saving grace to the ending. The ending sucks, a lot. Genuinely awful. So punching philemon is what keeps it as a 0.1 instead of a flat 0
@@tylerlackey1175 It's awful for a reason. It's to show that even with all the power in the world, a bunch of Persona users are nothing compared to a god
@@kichiroumitsurugi4363 say that to the other persona games and every SMT game. The ending is just plain shit so a sequel could be made
@@tylerlackey1175 I played P5, I played Nocturne, I played P4G. And honestly, the end of the world in IS was a better way to wrap things up, even if I am iffy on allowing a timeline reset after this
@@kichiroumitsurugi4363 Its not the end of the world, however it is a waste of fucking time. I spent 2 weeks sloughing through the last boring half of IS and only to find out none of it was worth it and we have to undo it all. Even a fucking redditor wouldn't think it's a good ending. Very poorly done, not bothering with eternal punishment
Now Persona 2 will get more recognition since a selection of its soundtrack has been added to Spotify
I have the full version of innocent sin psp intro on spotify
The opening is such a blast!
Subs: do the persona 5 only arsene now how you finish persona 2
Nyarly: persona 2 eternal puneshment will be the next game
it's because Eternal Punishment is based
inb4 persona 2 ep PSP translation never and he pivots again to smth like SMT Strange Journey only gun
I mean, he's got to finish the story first
P5 is garbage anyway
@@557deadpool i think it's pretty good, especially in the music design
Wait, THAT'S why Belphigor is on a toilet in later games?!?!
Well he is depicted as sitting on a toilet in actual demonology
@@spawnofchaos9422 Oh. Why though?
@@ghoxtlyrose4724Honestly, I don't actually know.He is said to be the demon of sloth,so maybe that's why or maybe the medieval rumors of demons coming out of the toilet played a role in how he is depicted.
@@spawnofchaos9422 In all honesty whenever I feel lazy I sit in the toilet
@@ashadow4313 You sit inside of a toilet?
I imagine this will be more of a challenge in Persona 2: Eternal Punishment. Innocent Sin is really easy.
Yeah, if he decides to do a run with Persona 2:Eternal Punishment, I really want to see him struggle in the Guido(if he play Nate's Route) and Metal Trio fight. Especially with Metal Trio, when Metal Jun have that damn Terror Fortune.
Well, the game’s called “Eternal Punishment for a reason.”
Yes I know it was for story reasons, but it’s a good joke.
Will be a hell because just maya s'persona learns media this mean just one healer
@@luizgamer2.026 No, Odysseus got Soothing Melody as a Mutation skill too
@@hoangthemanh4072 só baifu is healer?
That is possibly the most accurate depiction of what would happen if the earth stopped rotating. The earth's rotation is responsible for a ton of different day to day effects like our day/night cycle, seasons, high tide and low tide(with help from the moon), and most importantly gravity. Every living being on earth would die if that happened so good on you game.
Man from all persona protagonist's in the series Tatsuya suffered the most, Naoya was just there, Makoto/Hamuko lost their parents in a car crash and were transformed to seal to make sure mankind survived, Yu nearly lost nanako, and Joker was treated like shit for a crime he didn't commit. But Tatsuya watched maya get killed, None of his friends remember him, was forced into a rigged gamble against Philemon and nyarletholep, among other stuff. The poor guy can't catch a break
In terms of Personal Bad Endings, both Hamuko/Kitaro and Tatsuya just evoke: which is worse? Having to forget your friends and they forget you or becoming a seal for how long, sure your friends still remember you but you're now pretty much robbed of any chance to live or pass on.
yeah, he's super broken in EP mentally, and it makes perfect sense. i'd be depressed, too.
"before we go, Philemon asks if theres anything else we want to say, so i hit him"
i laughed too hard at that line, the delivery is gold
“So what’s your favorite movie?”
“It’s complicated.”
Ooh, Complicated! I love that movie.
The beggining says that noone of the characthers are real..... but hitler tho
Yep perhaps that's the main reason why original ps1 version never get Localized
Maybe hitler wasnt real and it was all a prank
@@ConFlow247 lol you got it right, it was just a guy dressed like hitler. his real name was michael smith and he’s a nice guy, he bought me a pint
@@tataladdd4251 You joke, but's not Hitler. It's the Fürher! (jk it's Nyarly).
Führer for the PSP version
"I wish that other Persona games would do something like this" What I preach everyday to the people.
I actually like that the choices seem to want you to let the other characters do things on their own to 'grow' versus you always being involved assisting. Maybe Persona 3 having the characters go through their proper arcs and 'growing' besides the social links was influenced by that. I vastly prefer the characters developing on their own without you being directly involved all the time.
I know this comment is a few months old but I'm just so glad to see someone else mentioning this about Persona 3. I talk about this all the time when I praise that games characters and plot compared to 4 and 5. I'm not a huge fan about how the protagonists have to be present for almost EVERYTHING that happens in those games, and your party members get almost no development when you're not there with them. Persona 3 wasn't afraid to cut away to focus on the other characters and explore their relationships with each other and how they grow as people over the course of the year.
Same thing goes for how Ultimate Personas are obtained. In Persona 3 the characters all gain their Ultimate Personas as part of the main story of the game because their development is directly tied to that story. They each have a defining moment that signifies how they've grown as an individual, and that's when their true power awakens. In Persona 4 and 5, they don't get them unless Yu/Joker is around to listen to them have a one sided conversation with them. Mechanically I know it's a good way of incentivising players to max out party member social links, but I really think it's detrimental to the main story of the games.
"Man up"
*Mans up and gains a lot of power*
@@EdyAlbertoMSGT3We're gonna Social Link our way to the top baby
@@coneyisland428yeah, i've been saying this. 4 and 5 are directly inferior games because they're afraid of letting the cast exist without the protagonist. 5 has other issues too, but that's a big one.
@@alicevioleta3184 Yeah it's strange that they don't let it happen to the same extent that P3 does. It's probably some idea of wanting the story to feel like it's entirely from the protagonist's perspective, but both P4 and P5 still feature cutaways to other scenes the main character isn't present for. So if you're allowing that, I don't see any reason all the party members have to have their development rigidly bound to the protagonist's presence.
Also it just kind of sucks that these party members all have their emotional breakthroughs from just you sitting there listening and occasionally saying a sentence or two lmao. With NPC social links I get why that has to be the case, they can't always be present for the main story to develop, but the cast members were the exception to this in P3 and should have stayed the exception in the following games imo
Take a shot when eikichi says “Let’s go everybody” on his fusion spells.
Ayyy Nyarly getting those sponsors now! Always love it when youtubers start getting ads.
The main fact that the protagonists has a motorcycle 🏍 automatically makes him the best/coolest main protagonists of the Persona franchise. Also the fact that he’s the only main protagonists that goes from high school to young adult.
I mean, the P5 party gets a camper van at Strikers.....
@@EdyAlbertoMSGT3 but can they imitate motorcycle/construction sounds that sound exactly like stock sound effects for both of those?
Here's an interesting idea for a challenge: Digital Devil Saga human form only? I doubt it's possible, considering your attack is really limited by ammo and you can't use any spell, buffs or debuffs, but you do have items, so I'm curious how far you can get in the game with this idea
I thinked to do this for myself, but i play in the ps2, so i can't record and everything
Y E S
I did part of the run using grenades and the OP Cielo gun. Cielo can attack multiple times doing high damage, Arguilla never fails a bullet and crit a lot and the protagonist because... He uses also a gun, I guess.
Tu é br?
@@lucasp1809 ?
And now, we wait for Nyarly to suffer by doing this in EP.
Note: You severely underestimated mutations, they are still unreliable, but can be broken if you know you'll use the same Personas for a long period of time.
Is it even possible for him to beat EP? Sugawara would be pretty bullshit
@@derekmartin5340 The thing with the late game bosses in genearl is, Tatsuya's starting Persona is Apollo in EP, so that would lower the dificulty a great deal, especially since Sugawara is weak to fire.
@@adamsmith2122 true, Tatsuya would be a saving grace
@@adamsmith2122 but you still should outdamage him.
@@adamsmith2122 Apollo and Makakaja beads exist to save the day
Never has a samurai clicked a video so fast!
Hoy what are you saying!
Behold, his demons!
Will you end it thus like you did with a certain enemy?
Such is the samurai skill!
@@ace-trainer-aj he probably missed trying to end thus
"There's only one option I can go with"
*doesn't choose Eikichi*
The story of Innocent Sin is basically an Indian Jones movie.
@Pedro Albino sounds like a lot of Mayan folklore/ mythology. Honestly an underrated ancient culture
"I'm Ready"
- He who dwells in a pineapple under the sea.
You make him sound like an outer god.
@@ffffffffROTHY Maybe he is,
Maybe we have a pineapple dweller in us all....
I would like to thank you for introducing me to the persona series, I started playing because of these videos and now the Persona series are some of my favorite
You can prevent getting the Ultimate personas by not picking up the Featherman masks in Mt. Iwato, btw
The timing of the bleep at 40:50 and Eikichi coming in with that face is great.
No one:
Eikichi: LET'S GO EVERYBODY!!!
Beat the game about a month ago and what a game that was.... Kinda sad it's usually never acknowledged by Atlus, I hope they remake it at some point so people who can't stand the gameplay get to experience the story and characters
To be fair....we have the P1 and P2 Clothing and Items in P5R even with a little P2 Easter Egg.
@@Zero_de_Nova also the p2 reference in p3
P1 & P2 with P5 graphics and gameplay would demolish the competition
@@bobgray6498 They’d become the brand new fan-favorite games. Plus, people would finally remember the true Persona Chad, Tatsuya Suou(He’s my favorite protagonist for his genuinely tragic life and the way on how they defined his character in both games, but he does gain bonus points in regards to his memetic chad potential being hilariously far greater than even freaking Minato Arisato, who is only ignored because of the more blatant Yu Narukami and Joker). Plus, there’s also the fact that practically most of my favorite characters of each Arcana are in these Games, with Lisa being my all time favorite Lovers Arcana character by a long shot(the only character who has her Lovers arcana actually fully represent her life, even more so than Yukari, and it not defining her personality like Ann and Rise which, while it is interesting on paper, is not how Tarot cards work, where they represent the paths of our lives and the future we face, they aren’t a fancy personality reader, since her actual personality is more akin to Chie, especially with her interactions with Eikichi being similar to Chie’s interactions with Yosuke, without any of the double standards/cliche trope bs that annoyed me in Persona 4). I pretty much have the same opinions as Nyarly on favorite persona games, except 3 is my second favorite and 2 is my absolute favorite.
Ill be honest
Revamping the battle system.would take away a lot of irs charm
50:02
What a let down.
Eikichi is clearly the best waifu.
This is how I played the whole game normally 💀
Same, I was stupid so I didn't know to make contracts so I just used the default.
I think I did the same as a kid cuz I got confused with the tarot cards cuz I am retarded
Same, I was 20 hours in and never had a problem in a fight with the initial personas
PSP version is somewhat easier than the fan translation of the PSone version. For example, a single Longinus knight was thought by the game as a different group than the rest, so spells like Maragidyne (or Maha-Agidhain as it's named in that) connect with only one knight when cast, not all of them. (They also spam their lightning attacks more than in the PSP version etc.)
@@sheepgod5884 to be fair P2 is pretty easy, both
Couldn't the characters just spread a rumour that they are max level and stuff like that
Oml
but then the game will be tremendously easy
that would be great... But broken
I mean, when you try to spread crazy good rumors they don't work because people don't believe them, so maybe it's something like that as well
Yeah, that's the reason for rumors, it has to be something believable to have a lasting effect on the world
every battle ending can be summarized by one sentence: "Let's go, everybody!"
The man with sunglasses is clearly Johnny Bravo.
yeah clearly
Philemon deserved that suckerpunch at the end. 100%.
I love this kind of videos. And not really because of the challenge itself, but because you show how knowledgeable you are about these games. Hearing your strategies and how you organize the playthrough is a pure joy. Keep up the great work!
Wait, that’s not how you play the game?
lmfaooo
hey did you know you can actually run out of mp in the game?
@@byel2844 no, it really didn’t 🤔
@@byel2844 I don't think it did, they were making a counter-joke
This video got me to start innocent sin and I'm at smile hirasaka. I haven't been fusing demons because I hate the way this game handles negotiation. I mean how the hell am I supposed to know which demons wanna hear my motorcycle impression? I've only been using base personas but I think i'm gonna use the prime and ultimate personas
@@tataladdd4251 lol i remember I was half way through the game and think. "Wait, how come I never ran out of SP?"
Involving the Leader boss fight: You only fight him if you opt to help Eikichi. You don't if you leave him alone.
That was stated in the video. But since if you don't help Ekichi he gets a new persona, according to the rules of the challenge, then this fight is mandatory.
Yeah, but he ended up saying either way it ends up in a fight. A little contradictory..
But yeah, I know.
Persona 2 innocent sin from psp was my first megaten game, so it warms my heart to see it having some recognition.
Thank you nyarly, nice video as usual.
Lucky, you got to experience p2 duology in the riggt order.
I played EP first so I got confused a lot
I love the older Persona/SMT's character artstyle.
Really wish they didn't go for the standard anime look in the later games...
Also this story is batshit insane lmao.
The artist for the older games left Atlus which is why the artstyle changed
@@KatelynTeaKaneko didn't leave until recently lol, Soejima just took over for Persona while Kaneko mentored Doi and other artists.
29:17 the cutscen with the robots
The music is so good i love it. I remember seeing the op and seeing the robots being like " what is happening" and now it's like "sh!t is happening."
This games story is wild. Fun run to watch! Good stuff :)
We still need a persona 2 anime
Also I like your cut nyarly
But he doesn't like your's
@@BitchChill damn, you kinda got me there
There was that short...
@@Samm815 yes i saw that trailer
Still want a full anime series
I mean ... You really don't ...
A-1 pictures could buy the rights
The most important contribution to p2 made to the series is the introduction of jojo like designs in the main cast personas
Personas are just stands with more steps
Now I kinda want a JoJo game made by Atlus
I want to thank you on a personal level you are one of my biggest inspiration to play as many of the SMT games as possible. I went out of my way to buy physical copies of these games and I wanted to thank you for making me want to play such an amazing game series you really are amazing. These challenges are so difficult and am impressed that you spend the time to do these challenges. So thank you for spending the time to make such amazing content you are my favorite SMT and JRPG content creator
Persona 2 is so easy and the starters are so powerful I'd be surprised if this was a fail.
Ekichi: the fusion of Ryuji and Kanji
lol
more like the origin of both; Hashino's games borrow heavily from p2.
The way Eikichi accepts his shadows was way better than how it was done in Persona 4
According to the channel trend this means a remake of persona 2 is comming.
Looking forward to seeing how you'll handle doing this in the literal cbt that is Eternal Punishment. Cant imagine it being possible in that
36:14 You probably saw him on Time Magazine, he was on the cover for the 1938 Person of the Year.
"this is too unreliable to count on though" me, who has a play time of 55 hours in innocent sin because he always wanted to max rank and mutate his personas before continuing the story:
oh
it isn't unreliable, but 3 years ago, there wasn't much documentation about Tsumi's mutation chances.
I actually didn't switch my persona once in Innocent Sin. Now it's a Nyarly challenge!
wow great job finishing your challenge! I played persona 3 and currently playing 4 from steam and boy persona 2 has a crazy apocalyptic story than I expected. well done
Chikarin is hella cute. Definitely best waifu.
The voice acting for this game is honestly a cut above what was available at the time.
The Spirit Rib is really nice
@Shadow Gravity Better late than never :D
And when the world needed him most... he returned...
Fuck yeah!, persona 2 rocks
Hell yeah baby!
LET'S GO EVERYBODY!
"So I hit him."
man I'm really disappointed hearing the stuff that went down with you nyarly, I hope you better yourself and never hurt someone like how you did to your ex again. we love you and want the best for you, please better yourself
@@noblegalifreyan4551 Wait, what? I didn't hear anything about this. Christ, why does every-other content creator end up being scummy in some way? This sucks.
Wait what? What happened? I'm kinda a new fan so forgive my lack of knowledge 😣
@@noblegalifreyan4551 Damn, that sounds scummy as hell. Why is every other youtuber I like turning out to a scumbag lately? 😣
@@Artemus973 At least we got ProJared back. He was able to clear his name and make a good comeback.
@@bergonath8851 Yes, thank effin God ^^
Such an interesting video!
I hope they re-release this game and release the other one too.
This was a great challenge, also it looked like Eikichi had the finishing lines for every major battle
To answer it quickly, yes, and it's surprisingly easy. Let's see if Nyarly had difficulty or not (I finished the game like that the 1st time, because I didn't understand the card system)
It’s always great when Nyarly posts a challenge run or any other type of video. Thank you, man. Truly appreciate you.
I thought this day would never come
18:57 I love how the missing party members get xp even though they didn't actually participate in the battle.
I just started Persona 2, and I love it. Confusing but great
just finished devil survivor today, and went to download innocent sin, this video arrived, thankfully I didn't start playing, I was going to do a lot of dumb shit
What emulator and what site did you get it from I wanna play 1 and 2 on psp
54:19
“You will know no-“
“YOU AINT WORTH MY TIME”
I appreciate the little slide show that came with the sponsor. I’d actually watch them if more people did that
Mfw nyarly was playing persona 5 irl 😳
Damn this little series is addicting lol Good job Nyarly!
I haven't played the psp version of Innocent Sin (just emulated the ps1 version) so I don't know if it's the same, but as challenging as the gameplay was I really appreciated the fact that if Tatsuya dies, it's not game over. It literally shocked me when I realized the other games didn't work like that.
i think it's okay for persona 3, but 4 and 5 should have changed back to how it was in 2.
Literally every time it shows the end of a battle: "LET'S GO, EVERYBODY!"
Idk why, but I've never commented in a video before. But I'd reaaaaally love a eternal punishment challenge
this was literally my first nyarly video ever, best video of 2021 ever, thank u for getting me into the og persona games nyarly.
THATS WHAT WE’VE BEEN WAITING FOR!!! ITS WHAT WE WANTED ALL ALONG!!!
Spongebob reference?
@@davidlarkin1040MoistCritikal.
WE DID IT GUYS.
NOW THAT NYARLY DID A CHALLENGE RUN ON PERSONA 2 WE WILL GET A REMASTERED!
"The coolest cinematic in the series".....
Nazi Gundams.