Can You Beat Persona 4 Golden On Very Hard Doing Only Mandatory Battles?

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  • Опубліковано 30 вер 2024
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    After beating Persona 5 Royal using only Gun Damage we go back in the series for some more Persona 4 Golden stuff. This time we will try to beat the entire game without fighting any random encounters. Basically we only do the mandatory battles and that's all!
    I hope you enjoy and sorry for the long video :)
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КОМЕНТАРІ • 227

  • @Yes-----
    @Yes----- Рік тому +1263

    even though the run was invalidated when you didn't help Nanako with her homework, this was one of the coolest runs I've seen!

    • @steam-powereddolphin5449
      @steam-powereddolphin5449 Рік тому +38

      For legal reasons, this is a joke.

    • @eyoshinthemaximum
      @eyoshinthemaximum Рік тому +195

      @@steam-powereddolphin5449no it isn’t, not helping Nanako is a sin

    • @demonking41-l8j
      @demonking41-l8j Рік тому +8

      @@eyoshinthemaximum Too bad. Not everyone is part of the hivemind like you.

    • @eyoshinthemaximum
      @eyoshinthemaximum Рік тому +117

      @@demonking41-l8j its not a hivemind its a fact its not a hivemind its a fact its not a hivemind its a fact one of us one of us one of us one of us SINNER

    • @kvotheosem-sangue
      @kvotheosem-sangue Рік тому +39

      @@demonking41-l8j He persists on his sin 😢

  • @Haastuur
    @Haastuur Рік тому +809

    Great vegetables

  • @NitsuaGamer
    @NitsuaGamer Рік тому +471

    Wow, this was honestly insane man! HUGE congrats to you for not only doing this run, but doing it on Very Hard Difficulty. I honestly would have gave up and called it impossible, especially after Mitsuo and Ameno-Sagiri who seem to be the most brutal part of the whole run. But you did it! Huge congrats to you! And hey, I got to learn a few things from this run too! Like how KO'd members can debuff Ameno during Bewildering Fog or how Kunino never goes for physical, so you can just endure the whole thing with magic mirrors or makarakarn. Good job getting through this run! Definitely one of the most brutal challenge runs I've ever seen on this game.

  • @Roxas90250
    @Roxas90250 Рік тому +352

    The most brutal part of this challenge was not the hellish difficulty, nor the stringent resource management. No, it was the relentless bullying of poor, poor Nanako. This is truly the worst timeline, True Golden Ending or no.

  • @misheruzinho
    @misheruzinho Рік тому +237

    After years of playing persona i realized through this video that Goho-M is a pun "Go Home"

    • @helghast_7203
      @helghast_7203 7 місяців тому +24

      Oh my sweet god.

    • @Hiroakiarai88
      @Hiroakiarai88 7 місяців тому

      You're very dumb!

    • @arseneholmes6266
      @arseneholmes6266 7 місяців тому +9

      Why haven't I noticed that

    • @conicthehedgehog9166
      @conicthehedgehog9166 6 місяців тому +7

      Holy shit, first yu then this

    • @Jaeisthename
      @Jaeisthename 5 місяців тому +4

      How did it take you so long? I found out as soon as Morgana gives you one in P5 😭

  • @StallionX3
    @StallionX3 9 місяців тому +76

    Gotta love how the party members almost never level up by defeating hard af bosses, but immediately do by watching a damn movie.

  • @sakura368
    @sakura368 Рік тому +127

    i like how narukami is the only one good enough to actually successfully land after the crowd moves out of the way, he really is the king

  • @sarapoda
    @sarapoda Рік тому +122

    What a tenacious person. I'm seriously impressed. This feels like a persona challenge run for the ages, my dude. Congrats!

  • @coltonandjen
    @coltonandjen Рік тому +131

    26:28
    Teddie: "Wow, that was intense! Are you all right?"
    Everyone dead on the ground:

  • @marioagainsttheworld6248
    @marioagainsttheworld6248 Рік тому +77

    That challenge was BRUTAL man! Congratulations on beating it!

  • @madbrosheo1514
    @madbrosheo1514 Рік тому +35

    Bro, I can’t believe this is even possible. Probably isn’t in vanilla p4 because no Rise help, but at this point, nothing would surprise me.

    • @chamclamtv
      @chamclamtv Рік тому +32

      The first mini boss in yukiko's dungeon doesn't even have a weakness in vanilla, so it might just end right there 💀

    • @pokeharvester4899
      @pokeharvester4899 20 днів тому

      ​@@chamclamtv no weaknesses+ no floor reset for treasure farming, the OG P4 Shadow Yukiko was a madness

    • @YukiSnow75
      @YukiSnow75 2 дні тому

      @@pokeharvester4899bro what she’s easy I beat her in 3 try’s.

    • @pokeharvester4899
      @pokeharvester4899 2 дні тому

      @@YukiSnow75 >easy
      >Took 3 attempts
      So is she easy or not, things that take you multiple attempts to complete can be considered difficult

    • @YukiSnow75
      @YukiSnow75 2 дні тому

      @@pokeharvester4899 the only reason I lost was really just because I came with no plan the hardest part of the fight was Chie giving Yukiko 2 turns I was able to skip the summoning of her prince by damaging her enough before she spawns him

  • @PinkBorussia
    @PinkBorussia Рік тому +76

    I haven't finished the video yet but if this is possible you need the most incredible RNG

  • @PacesetterREAL
    @PacesetterREAL Рік тому +92

    You put in a lot of work for such a small channel, love your videos. Just as a piece of constructive criticism, when you are explaining your strategies for certain bosses, it would be nice to have some graphics that match what you are talking about on screen. The Mitsuo fight was a good example of this, its really hard to compartmentalize everything that you are saying in my head, and I feel like some graphics would be helpful in making the fight more understandable from a viewers perspective, as well as freshen up the footage past the gameplay that is being shown. I know that these videos take a lot of time and effort to make, and I'm not trying to diminish your already amazing work. Excited for the next video!

    • @RagnarAlvarrGaming
      @RagnarAlvarrGaming  Рік тому +52

      This is something I actually thought about as well, even more so when things get a bit more complicated (like the Mitsuo fight). The problem was that I was already so accustomed to everything that it became somewhat "normal" for me, hence why I didn't do anything extra for the most part but it is definitely something I'll keep in the back of my mind for future videos!

    • @truewhissan
      @truewhissan Рік тому +10

      I love to see this, genuine criticism that comes from a good place and positive reception. It gives me hope in UA-cam after darn near losing it. Props to you both! 👍

    • @steam-powereddolphin5449
      @steam-powereddolphin5449 Рік тому +3

      @@RagnarAlvarrGaming I have a question about the RNG manipulation: how do you reliably exploit it to acquire Barbaric Bracers or Chakra Rings from locked chests in the areas where they can appear?

    • @RagnarAlvarrGaming
      @RagnarAlvarrGaming  Рік тому +2

      @@steam-powereddolphin5449 as far as I know there is only known item manipulation for the Divine Pillar at the moment since it is used in speedruns. Technically you can manipulate every drop but you'd need to trial and error to find a matching pattern

    • @topasu9454
      @topasu9454 10 місяців тому

      "such a small channel" bro what the fuck? 9k subs is huge

  • @PinClockFuntime
    @PinClockFuntime Рік тому +36

    As someone who did this challenge myself I knew the boss with the most focus would be Ame no Sagiri, that guy is absolute hell for this run.

  • @venrexx
    @venrexx Рік тому +12

    For those who didn't know, if you want to make the Shadow Teddie fight easier, when Shadow Teddie charges up to do Nihil Hand, you can stagger him out of it by just dealing enough damage to him before he can use the actual ability, forcing him to forfeit a turn.

  • @Sock_ket
    @Sock_ket Рік тому +37

    This is so cool! Not only is this a super impressive challenge to watch it was a great look into the bosses AI. It really felt like i was learning with you lol

  • @zerotalent297
    @zerotalent297 Рік тому +9

    Atlus: Persona is not a grindy game, you can beat it without a single non-story battle.. probably.
    Ragnar: Aight, bet.
    Phenomenal run! Would love to see a persona 2 challenge run of some sorts, though as nails game without grinding and getting lucky with evolutions.

  • @Moffattt
    @Moffattt Рік тому +6

    ahahaha no hesitation
    "do you like kids?"
    "i hate kids!"

  • @codewraith1
    @codewraith1 Рік тому +13

    "stuck with izanagi" excuse me that's precisely why it's a doable run lol

  • @steam-powereddolphin5449
    @steam-powereddolphin5449 Рік тому +5

    Somebody who went by the name Soulgrunt actually did something like this a while ago, but their channel seems to have disappeared.
    I still have a copy of all their pre-boss save files (as they were generous enough to provide these shortly after the first long-awaited port released on June 13, 2020), and I used them to make pre-miniboss saves of my own. If anyone wants these saves, I'm happy to share what this legend left behind...
    Edit: I believe they also disallowed movies and the Haikara Shirt, and split EXP from every big battle starting with Shadow Mitsuo. The protagonist's final level was a mere 27, and they also relied on dodge strategies later on. (I can tell this because I have the aforementioned saves from the lost legendary run). Even so, your run is still very impressive!

    • @croc3862
      @croc3862 Рік тому

      Aight put your money where your mouth is

  • @chaostails7
    @chaostails7 Рік тому +10

    This must have taken FOREVER. Kudos to your perseverance

  • @hugswanted7954
    @hugswanted7954 Рік тому +2

    I'm sorry i cant, dislike unsubscribe and stopping the video. how could you not help Nanako you monster.

  • @SilverInterpolFire
    @SilverInterpolFire 6 місяців тому +4

    This was easily the most entertaining challenge run I've seen. The Ameno Sagiri fight was hype 😅 amazing!

  • @DraconisLeonidas
    @DraconisLeonidas Рік тому +7

    Wow, that was intense. A really fun watch, and I think the way you did commentary this time around is solid. It certainly was easy to follow and it was nice to hear the thought process, something that can get kinda missed in post-scripting, I think.

  • @skelecon4647
    @skelecon4647 Рік тому +2

    21:35 bro did not hesitate

  • @icee711
    @icee711 Рік тому +4

    Narly's izanagi run on steriods

  • @angwelio
    @angwelio Рік тому +4

    Is that pain and suffering playing an arbitrary challenge in persona 4?
    Oh, yes please

  • @bubbletea_
    @bubbletea_ 9 місяців тому +1

    huge props to you bro. i would never do this. i'm doing a low level (not mandatory encounters, i'm allowing gold shadow grinding cuz they give no exp and i don't think i can win the game without weapon fusion) run of persona 3 fes and this challenge actually seems worse to do. which is funny because most people would consider this game easier on a normal run.

  • @jvever4904
    @jvever4904 Рік тому +6

    This run is INSANE. Amazing that you managed to pull it off!

  • @Voidsealer
    @Voidsealer Рік тому +4

    you absolute madlad, god damn impressive.

  • @RosyMiranto
    @RosyMiranto Рік тому +3

    Oh hey, didn't expect someone actually did P4 Golden No Grinding after i heard someone said it's impossible. So this will be fun...

  • @STR1V3F0RL1F3
    @STR1V3F0RL1F3 7 місяців тому +1

    Hydrogen bomb(bosses) vs coughing baby(yu)

  • @edzarahmadya5491
    @edzarahmadya5491 Рік тому +3

    Bro that calculates damage thingy is a really mindblowing holy fk

  • @Juni_Bowman
    @Juni_Bowman Рік тому +1

    I’d love for you or someone else to do this run on p5, it’s a interesting run but I can’t watch the p3 version of this by someone else cause I’m still early game p3

  • @ballistic2527
    @ballistic2527 Рік тому +3

    I did this challenge a few years back when i was bedridden for a while. One of the most fun times i've ever had playing a persona game, second only to my first playthrough of Persona 3 FES. I do recommend.

  • @roguetoxic4207
    @roguetoxic4207 Рік тому +1

    5:51 how are you able to access the shop so early? I beat Yukiko’s castle and still can’t access it. (First play through btw)

  • @person3231
    @person3231 5 місяців тому +1

    Amazing run! This might be one of the greatest accomplishments for a Persona game

  • @Slyfox2235
    @Slyfox2235 7 місяців тому +1

    This was by far the most interesting challenge run i have seen

  • @kohganightbane9430
    @kohganightbane9430 Рік тому +3

    This is honestly my favorite Persona game, so I always love seeing people do challenge runs of it.

  • @Linkforlife199
    @Linkforlife199 11 місяців тому +2

    Ragnar, hats off to you for completing this run. I was on the edge of my seat for some of these fights, but you pulled through.

  • @kademaxwell6025
    @kademaxwell6025 Рік тому +2

    Damn this was so insane and even learned some new things about the game, too. Especially the bewildering fog trick. Congrats!

  • @Kaiserdudegaming
    @Kaiserdudegaming Рік тому +1

    effectively Minimum Battles, reduced EXP and Money, Handicaped against player to max (You do less damage and they do more damage)? Yeah that's *harsh*

  • @onetoughpickl1729
    @onetoughpickl1729 Рік тому +1

    Imo you should’ve kept using yosuke bc his super ability is really good for evasion and healing. Still a great run!

  • @skeith804
    @skeith804 10 місяців тому +1

    Nice man! I'm doing Very Hard, not a low level run, but I kinda don't just want to grind up to recommended as I might as well have played Hard if I were gonna do that. This is extremely helpful! I'm on Mitsuo right now and man he's a pain.

  • @SnowFleiqs
    @SnowFleiqs Рік тому +1

    1:35:45 Yukiko walking all the way to slap teddie xD

  • @kevindropbox7502
    @kevindropbox7502 Рік тому +2

    this is beyond insane, you put the low level megaten gameplay to the next level with this, props!!

  • @EmEm-fm4nn
    @EmEm-fm4nn Рік тому +2

    I had relied on dodges multiple times in P4 in a lot of challenge runs, you’ll be surprised how well it worked.

  • @kain1799
    @kain1799 Рік тому +1

    I felt really dimb being like why would you replace someone woth noato who excels at random encounters. Then realized. Ahe comes with a ton of levels and should be able to out dps izanagi and has better element coverage whixh yu cant do this run

  • @HarbingerYT
    @HarbingerYT Рік тому +1

    Megaten fans: decides to do a challenge run of Persona 4 (Golden)
    Shadow Mitsuo:

  • @lazypaladin
    @lazypaladin Рік тому +1

    _Oddly poetic that Void Quest forced you to use Damage Calcs._

  • @toressykes
    @toressykes Рік тому +1

    bro your viewer counter per video is so high but your subscriber count is so low. thats not fair. i subscribed :)

  • @Jimmeeehhh
    @Jimmeeehhh Рік тому +1

    Yu out here unleashing Ultra Instinct against Ameno-Sagiri.

  • @angelobruno9809
    @angelobruno9809 12 днів тому

    I think this type of run is what made atlus turn the first shuffle time and shadow negotiation obligatory in every game after p4 so the player doesn't lack options like what's happening here

  • @mAceOfHearts
    @mAceOfHearts Рік тому +1

    Really impressive stuff, man. Your determination's quite something.

  • @leftoflove
    @leftoflove Рік тому +1

    i can't believe how crazy this was. I had to grind for hours to beat this game.

  • @LuisParson
    @LuisParson Рік тому

    My first playthrough of this game was actually a low level run on very hard. I find it interesting your MC and Teddie are the same level as mine when I fought Ameno-sagiri. And this is with me fighting normal enemies for quest and shuffle time.

  • @Bruder_Benny
    @Bruder_Benny Рік тому +1

    yesterday i watched your P5R Video today this one. Great ones. And i love Persona Games so much, it was so fun to watch them. sub inc

  • @DeadShoot48659
    @DeadShoot48659 Рік тому +1

    I uh was also doing this... damn nice

  • @bigman6868
    @bigman6868 2 місяці тому

    Couldn’t he just shuffle time a miniboss by killing it with an all out attack?

  • @aiikrstn
    @aiikrstn Рік тому +1

    I was literally just thinking about doing this challenge and I couldn’t even get to chie awakening 😅 so good luck on that

  • @Hattythebuissnesowner
    @Hattythebuissnesowner 10 місяців тому +1

    cool i cant beat even normaly final boss

  • @lewisspring35
    @lewisspring35 Рік тому +1

    1:01:52 WAIT, HOW. Isnt that attack Almighty?

    • @steam-powereddolphin5449
      @steam-powereddolphin5449 Рік тому +2

      Mute Ray deals Mute-type damage, as Resist/Null Mute can mitigate its effects as well.
      (That said, skills that deal damage belonging to ailment types are incredibly rare outside of Nocturne and Digital Devil Saga, as far as I'm aware).

  • @muddybuddy9299
    @muddybuddy9299 Рік тому +1

    Great Vegetables

  • @jadebayoba7073
    @jadebayoba7073 Рік тому +1

    Honestly i CANNOT imagine fighting Yukiko's persona without the butterfly prince

    • @jadebayoba7073
      @jadebayoba7073 Рік тому

      No bc literally THE ONLY WAY to survive Burn to Ashes is to block, i swear to god no matter how much def u put in, you will DIE if you don't block

    • @jadebayoba7073
      @jadebayoba7073 Рік тому

      15:50 THAT'S ALSO WHAT I THOUGHT, BUT THEN THIS BITCH DECIDED TO SILVER RONDO MY MC?! I WAS SO FLABBERGASTED AND SO MAD AT THE GAME I HAD TO FALL BACK AND BREATHE

  • @ren2089
    @ren2089 Рік тому +1

    Great vegetables

  • @lolialf
    @lolialf Рік тому +1

    you failed Nanako, you disappoint me

  • @mapledaz3353
    @mapledaz3353 Рік тому +1

    an amazing challenge run, wish i was there when you streamed this. take my like you deserve it and more for this.

  • @varyosc
    @varyosc Рік тому +5

    It was always deemed impossible till you did it. Great video man thanks for the great content as always

    • @steam-powereddolphin5449
      @steam-powereddolphin5449 Рік тому

      Only one other person I know of has done something like this: Soulgrunt.
      Their channel and videos may be gone...but I still have their saves as proof that it's been done.

  • @starempresshel1211
    @starempresshel1211 Рік тому +1

    Very impressive! I tried this before on the easiest difficulty and just couldn't do it. Congratulations on the clear!

    • @steam-powereddolphin5449
      @steam-powereddolphin5449 Рік тому

      I did a similar thing on Very Easy myself. My biggest stumbling block was Ameno-Sagiri as I just didn't have enough of the right items. I had to rely on multiple free revives just to get past, because I didn't have much time or patience then.

  • @webpombo7765
    @webpombo7765 4 місяці тому

    Moral of this run: Items op

  • @that_dude_over_there
    @that_dude_over_there Рік тому +1

    I’m so mad, how do you get the damn golden ending!? I maxed out Marie social link and I still didn’t get the hollow forest scenario! I know dumb comment for this man’s insane accomplishment but I’m still allowed to be mad

    • @Kyubeyisbestboy
      @Kyubeyisbestboy Рік тому

      Marie and adachi

    • @that_dude_over_there
      @that_dude_over_there Рік тому

      @@Kyubeyisbestboy did that, nothing

    • @daiyahigashikata
      @daiyahigashikata Рік тому

      if you maxed out marie's social link before dec 31st and fought adachi then you shouldve seen it? weird

    • @that_dude_over_there
      @that_dude_over_there Рік тому

      @@daiyahigashikata THATS WHAT I SAID! I don’t know why it didn’t happen! The only thing I could think of for why it didn’t work was because I didn’t accept Marie romantically.
      That or i didn’t read all her poems in the velvet room.

  • @skeith804
    @skeith804 10 місяців тому

    Update! Grabbed some Magatamas myself thanks to your strat and it helped me push through the armor rebuilds! It was weird though. For a few attempts when he started doing the 2-stage rebuild he finished the 3rd one on the following turn where I only had gotten off around 650dmg. Since I'm not doing low level I lasted a bit against the Gigadynes but eventually lost it.
    On the attempt where I won he did a 2-stage build and I threw a Bufudyne and 2 Magatamas but then thought back to the last few attempts. If he was gonna take the 3 turns we thought he should I'd still have enough actions but if he finished his rebuild I'm gonna want a Rakukaja on MC. I didn't have enough output to down the 2nd stage rebuild in one turn so might as well buff. Well I buffed and he Dekaja'd and evil smiled! I knocked him down and he started only doing 1-stage rebuilds again which was just like what? Anyways not gonna complain. I took the W. Thanks for the help

  • @polishedrelish
    @polishedrelish Рік тому +4

    Crazy run, probably the hardest way to play the game

  • @ВиталийМакаронов

    Cool challenge idea, well done

  • @lilinberce9386
    @lilinberce9386 Рік тому

    Still in Yukiko's part of the video, I'm betting it's just gonna be mirror grinding and Rise null damage support the entire time.
    Edit: I was going to mention it, but forgor the 21:45

  • @LovelyNyx7
    @LovelyNyx7 Рік тому

    I'm not gonna lie. I did not think you were gonna be able to beat the challenge bc of how hard Izanagi is. I literally could not beat her and had to lower the enemy dmg down in the menu to beat her and I regret it. I'm playing P4G again just to beat her without lowering it.

  • @TheKharymusic
    @TheKharymusic Рік тому

    Without even watching, I'm going to say the teddie fight was a nightmare. Even going in fully prepared, it's a slog.

  • @robert23456789
    @robert23456789 7 місяців тому

    Nan close enough ..... Stoll better then 99% of us will do

  • @GrayD_Fox
    @GrayD_Fox Рік тому

    I've scorpioned twice, I can't believe I didnt break my back

  • @Shadowreaper8435
    @Shadowreaper8435 Рік тому

    man I can't even beat kunino sagiri on easy playing normally and this man does it solo with a handicap on very hard

  • @EmEm-fm4nn
    @EmEm-fm4nn Рік тому

    I had relied on dodges multiple times in P4 in a lot of challenge runs, you’ll be surprised how well it worked. I always disliked the divine pillar lol.

  • @Q-gf8vb
    @Q-gf8vb Рік тому +1

    1:32 RISE TUMMY

  • @therenegadegamer7422
    @therenegadegamer7422 Рік тому

    Just looking at the title and I'm already worried for your sanity this run sounds like actual torture

  • @arifmasri9772
    @arifmasri9772 Рік тому

    Even normal difficulty are already challenging for me😢

  • @sh1tler
    @sh1tler Рік тому

    glad I'm not the only one who's always forgetting to grab the orb of darkness

  • @natesadz
    @natesadz Рік тому

    I don't know why but for some reason when I read the title I assumed it was something like a non randomized run and was very confused before realizing it meant required encounters only

  • @mgray6357
    @mgray6357 Рік тому

    Amazing video, prolly gonna try to pull off something like this in p3p

  • @azure4622
    @azure4622 Рік тому

    This is p4g but the velvet room doesn't help you

  • @tricmagic
    @tricmagic Рік тому

    All those movies really paid off in the end, huh.

  • @oatstealer5075
    @oatstealer5075 Рік тому

    21:45 Joseph anderson did permenant damage to the persona fandom

  • @howisthis8849
    @howisthis8849 3 місяці тому

    adacher🥺

  • @Baratinha
    @Baratinha Рік тому

    Maaaan I spent the entire week watching piece by piece. Tnks for the content and for your time. This is the ultimate Persona Challgenge and Im grateful someone did it for us to watch haha keep going man, cheers from Brasil

  • @D-OS_II_Fan
    @D-OS_II_Fan Рік тому

    When I first saw this in my recs I thought it was another low effort challenge run video but you're probably one of the best runners out there. Love your content❤.

  • @Radovid_G
    @Radovid_G 11 місяців тому

    Pero se tenia a los minijefes para farmear y no eran aleatorios xD

  • @drackestalentorgen166
    @drackestalentorgen166 Рік тому

    you are a savage
    amazing

  • @Celestigames
    @Celestigames Рік тому

    Holy what a beautiful run and challenge, now am gonna watch all of ur challenges videos 🐐

  • @franbh94
    @franbh94 Рік тому

    Maybe I skipped this but, which was the reason of having Yukiko unstead of Kanji? (Higher level)

    • @RagnarAlvarrGaming
      @RagnarAlvarrGaming  Рік тому +4

      Yukiko learns Matarunda via bike trips which is literally our only available attack debuff and also the only reason we can tank some of the hits later on. She also puts out some serious DPS in the Kusumi-no-Okami bossfight so unless you're relying on dodges, she is a better choice than Kanji.

  • @jacobconley3721
    @jacobconley3721 9 місяців тому

    Didn’t think it was possible

  • @fox-milessavioroffoxes3782
    @fox-milessavioroffoxes3782 Рік тому

    Yu achieved Ultra Instinct

  • @padnoob6998
    @padnoob6998 Рік тому

    I forgot it too buddy. I forgot it too.