GOLF: Why The Pros Hit Their Irons So Solid
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- Опубліковано 8 чер 2024
- GOLF: Why The Pros Hit Their Irons So Solid
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This video is actually inspired by a concept Brian Manzella introduced several years back - the Pull Back, Run Up and Jump. That concept lays out that the pros have their left shoulder work in three distinct motions that allow them to hit the ball so solid. In this video I’ll take you through those lead shoulder motions and explain how they help you get shaft lean and a shallow angle of attack and ultimately help you hit the ball better
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This is the best golf video on UA-cam. I’ve watched hours of videos and not ever has someone hit the golf swing motion more accurately than this. Thank you so much.
Thanks, Cole! Appreciate it man...hope it helps and hope you are well!
Great video! Love your content and delivery! This not only helped with low point, it helped many other facets especially closed clubface at impact(for me anyway)! Everybody has their struggles and you have targeted many without a bandaid approach! Keep it going pal!
Thanks, David! Appreciate it!
That is just so cool so easy to understand , explained to perfection !! well done Eric 🏌🏼♂️👍🏼
Thanks, David! Appreciate it!
Very well explained. I can't believe this info is free. I've seen plenty of videos and so far this one is the best when it comes to ball striking methodology. I'm just learning to do this and get the feel for it but it does take some time to learn the feel because that is what this part of the swing is all about. Not about trying to hit the ball harder but to execute all the moves in rhythm as a feel like when throwing a baseball. I can feel more ball now then ground and it is definitely a distinct sensation which is new to me and I been playing for several years. Thank you for sharing this info as I'm sure it's going to change some lives....
Thanks, Maximus! Appreciate the kind words and appreciate you watching!
I had to withdraw from my last tournament because I never saw this video until now. I had no idea why my swing was off, this is a great video to help identify where things are off. Great work, thank you .
Thanks for your reply of using an 8 iron for most of your iron lessons. Great lesson. Tried it yesterday at our range , really made a great difference in my iron shots. Bob, Myrtle Beach.
Excellent! My pleasure!
Thank you so much Eric! I tried today, it worked so well!
Excellent!
This drill has really helped me.
Thank you
Love to hear that!
Love it. Coincidentally, I’m working this feel currently on the range. Really is helping. Can think: get the shoulder down on the backswing. Then switch to keep the left shoulder low thru the ball....and keeping my right shoulder driving thru the shot.
I think the low shoulder thru the ball thought also keeps my left hip low (and rotating). The other thought is : don’t it the ‘wall”: spin / rotate the left hip ( don’t slide).
Yes-love those feels for you!
Phenomenonal video! Thanks Eric.
Thanks, Angelo!
Absolutely love this video! I only had a few minutes of light but I see the difference in strike and divot. I'd love to see the driver please.
Excellent! That video is coming within the next 2 weeks!
there is nobody explained better about the left shoulder movement in details. Erice is the best on this planet.
Thank you :)
Great stuff...thanks! Never heard it explained this way
My pleasure!
Great video! Iam having big issues hitting my long irons. I will try some practice swings doing this, then to the range to try it. Thanks
Thank you!
Fantastic clip...thank you. this is what I'm working on. I noticed you said different with the Woods & Driver. Can you explain these adjustments please?
Thanks! Yup-that video is coming within the next 2 weeks!
ERic, today y practiced your video moving my left shouder the way you tell. Finally I could get the feeling and started to hit the ball and then the grass ahead of the ball. I study a lot and never could understand this theory until now. Thank you very much.
Excellent!Love to hear that my friend!
Awesome content. You are the best. Really appreciate the different filming location......no distractions behind you. :)
Agree one hundred percent.
Haha! Will try and find a solution for that moving forward!
Thanks a lot Eric, I am waiting for the adjustment for the fairway woods and driver.
coming up!
The shoulder turn through the ball is so underrated. You explain it well. There is another instructor that talks about eating the ball. I didn't under stand it for awhile. Played today after hitting 300 balls. It was soo much better. Smoother swing and control. Short irons was hitting low spinners. Thanks man
Excellent! Appreciate it...my pleasure!
Great lesson. Thanks
Appreciate it1
Great stuff.
I came up with a key "Left Shoulder Over" for that middle phase. All because I would get the shoulder moving up too quickly, which really a symptom of early extension.
Thanks, Matt!
Two focused thoughts : Left shoulder working down and left arm in a straight line with the shaft at impact. Contact pure every time. Eric , you did a video similar to this last fall and it saved my iron game. Also on a random live chat I asked “what about instructors that teach spine tilt ?” Your two word answer “RUN AWAY” . Game changing vid for players that drop the right shoulder.
:) We are on the same page my friend!
Wow.. this could be huge for me!! Never used my shoulder that way..I always hit low pull shots.. thanks Eric!
My pleasure-Roger! Hope it helps!
Great explanation, I read the article by the original author, Brian but I could not understand. thank you very much now I understand.
Thanks, Jerry!
Good Teaching !!!
Appreciate it!
One of the best instructions I received ever.Does the same method apply for drivers?
Thanks!
Nope....we have Driver vs Iron swing coming out within next few weeks!
Eric Cogorno Driver vs iron
Great video Eric. What I found interesting was that at 5:58, just at impact, his club is almost perfectly vertical and his hands are just ever so slightly ahead of the clubhead. So often we hear that you have to have a great deal of shaft lean at impact, or your hands have to be way ahead of the club, but this video illustrates that that clearly is not the case. The wrist hinge has been completely released at impact, and the head of the club has caught up to the hands at this point.
Thanks! Agreed-I see most good players with hands over left thigh or left shoe(ish) at impact
I would also add a note to make sure you are maintaining your spine angle through the swing. I noticed when focusing on the shoulders I would become more upright.
For sure
Great tips. This particular motion eliminates arm swings and gets your big muscles into the motion. This produces piercing shots and great spin on the green.
Thanks, Tod! Appreciate the kind words!
Develop a fundamentally sound descending blow into the ball. Your shoulders are just along for the ride. Best tip I ever received that changed my iron play forever? Loose relaxed arms swing faster than tense arms. And forward shalt lean? Do it half as much as you think you should. Also this: A descending blow actually gives you more room for error than trying to cleanly pick the ball. You may take too deep a divot but you will always hit the ball first, then the ground. Attack angle is key and when you get it right, the ball sizzles with a penetrating flight. When trying to cleanly pick, you can hit it fat/thin if you are not perfect. I know, developing a descending blow is easier said than done but for iron play it is pretty much a necessity. A good drill to get on the right track is to practice taking divots by keeping the trailing wrist slightly cupped going into impact. That slight cupped trailing wrist will also keep the club face square because the wrist is not flattening and rotating over until well into the follow through, post impact. See 5:30 for Adam Scott's slightly cupped trailing wrist at impact. Good luck out there. Once upon a time I hated irons. Now they are my favorite part of the game.
Very good tips. You did with words too much. Blessings
Glad you found some good feels for you! Appreciate the feedback!
GOOD JOB ! Eric
Thanks!
Awesome stuff Eric,,, ty Eric is it a big deal.not to be able to rotate as far ,,,?? Cant get my logo to ball on back swing ,, when I try lead arm starts to break down and is it alright to have a slight bend in lead arm at top of back swing??? Ty again your the man!!! Kevin from New York
Hey Kevin! Thanks for the message!
It's OK to not turn as much during the backswing....but it can limit some factors....
1. How much depth you can get of club, arms and hands.
2. How much speed you can create (distance)
It would be OK to have a little bend in arms.
Having backswing turn is like having a Ferrari. You don't NEED one...but its sure nice to have....and the best seem to have it :)
You can get from point A to point B in a Honda (less turn) ...maybe won't pick up as many chicks for it works :)
Thank you this helped my contact and power. This tip helped me create a more fluid and stronger swing.
Love to hear that, Jon!
Amazing tip
Thank you!
Wow, Eric I think this is the tip i've been searching for, months. Having problems hitting fat shot under pressure.I'll let you know if it works.Thanks
Thanks, Mark! Hope it does help my friend!
Great video but please explain the difference with the driver. My “guess” is that you don’t need as much (or any) of the “further down and forward” with the driver because you don’t want to hit down on the ball.
Hey Greg! That video is coming in the next 2 weeks!
Hi. Bob in Myrtle Beach. Can you mention what club and loft angle you using in your lessons. Thanks for the great drills, have really improved my golf swing. Bob
Hey Bob! Generally I am using an 8 iron when demonstrating...
hei Eric, love your videos: extremely well thought out and detailed. Would love to subscribe to your Elite plan but unfortunately you only review videos on Facebook apparently. What about those of us who are not on FB or don't want to be? Do you offer another platform?
Hey Neelesh!
Thanks for the message and the kind words! As of right now we only have the Facebook group, no other options. Perhaps that will change as some point but for now thats it!
Hope you are well!
Great feeling really felt it just swinging with left arm. Would this be good with driver too ??
Awesome! Yup!
Good job Eric
Thank you!
Nice tip. Another simple way to do the same thing is ---> Keep your chin stable and bring your left shoulder under chin on back swing and then bring your right shoulder under the chin on downswing. Tip to keep the chin stable is to hold a TEE in your teeth and keep it pointed at ball.
That works!
I've found that I have to work in practical terms for best results when it comes to my golf swing. That said, I've figured out that if I don't even look at the ball and I just focus on digging a little hole(divot) right in front of the ball, that one thought makes this happen for me beautifully. I just make that divot my target. Try that sometime people who struggle with this. Don't overthink it, just hit out that little divot and forget about the ball until you're watching it fly on the green.
Yessir-sometimes its that simple. Other times it's not.
I've watched about 346 of your videos in the last 72 hours and am now comfortably aboard the pure train. Thank you.
Lol love it
How can we apply this feel as more external thoughts like what we are trying to do with the clubhead? Grazing the ground light and in towards us just Infront of the ball perhaps
Yes...lots of options.
Inherently this video is all about internal cues, as you know, which there are a lot of options for.
External-feeling the clubhead working more narrow early, wider later. Longer "flat spot"....wider circle at the bottom....clubhead working more level to the ground through impact vs more DOWN.
Your videos make sense just like dozens of others with dozens of things to do to make a solid impact. How does an average golfer trying to get a consistent swing piece all the videos together into a repeatable swing?
They join Cogornogolf.com and have me coach them through it
Is getting the shoulder going down and forward on the DS an effect of the glutes going further away from the ball?
Its a combination of factors....left leg increasing flex, lead side of pelvis lower, not going into right side bend too much too early... etc
Very good video
thanks, Kenny!
If you had a driver in your hand, what would be different? Thanks for a great channel!!
Yes it would-have a video coming on that within the next week or so!
@@CogornoGolf Great news!
Hi, this works very well for me, the only difference being that I focus on the left shoulder for the complete back swing, and for the down swing, I shift my attention to the right shoulder.... the entire downswing and through motion is with right shoulder ... It helps me to a) find a better connection with the ball strike b) for longer irons , easier to strike-thru and up c) the idea of taking it thru and up helps me to complete the swing with better weight transfer from left to right foot : ) ... Please feel free to correct me as I am not a very good golfer (18 h/c)
That works!
fantastic drill !! Thank you,,,,,
My pleasure!
Eric is the best instructor in the world @@@@@@@@@@
Thanks, Rob :)
I'm a bit confused by one of your comments regarding the movement of the left shoulder. In your video you share that the left shoulder should move down, IN, and back. However, in Brian Manzella's April 2015 article that he wrote for Golf magazine, he states that in the backswing the left shoulder actually moves down, then OUT, specifically 5 inches out and then back. Could you please clarify this for me?
Yes you are correct-I was using the terms "IN" and "BACK" interchangeably there to describe the movement of the shoulder AWAY from the target.....
Not toward or away from the ground/ball like he was.
Sorry for confusion.
@@CogornoGolf Thanks for the clarification--and the prompt reply. Your explanation makes perfect sense.
Thanks again!
Would these shoulder motions be the same through the bag?
Not exactly...
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it took me 45 years to work out that all i have to do is point out front foot and move the left shoulder correctly it is amazing.
:)
I have a hard time getting my back facing the target as my flexibility is not good but I do understand
On backswing? Lots of ways to help you get more turn even with lack of flexibility!
The pros are not trying to control the lead shoulder positions. They get the shoulder into those positions and movement pattern as a consequence of lower body action.
Thanks for the feedback, Oscar! Not saying they do or don't "control" the positions...just showing people what they do! Hope you are well.
It seems to me that if you make a good tension free backswing and have correct lower body motion, most of this will happen by itself.
For some people a lot of good happens "by itself" or automatically....
For others a lot of bad happens by itself or automatically
I would tend to guess, it's the opposite. Up and back for long irons, Hybreds and Drivers
Yup!
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"Where their (front) shoulder works. :)
Yessir! Huge part of their success!
why wouldn't this work for good driver shots too? thx and great video.
It could....here is full explanation
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solidly
Thanks for the feedback, Paul!
@@CogornoGolf Eric, I am a fan! :)
Appreciate ya!
Do any good players actually think about this, or is it just a result of good fundamentals?
I would say both.
Most times someone who is good at anything in life doesn't have to "think" as much as someone who's not.
So if you do it naturally, no thinking. If not, then you must think to change it.
If you're naturally skinny you don't need to do anything....if you're not you do.
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A lot of 💰💰💰!
Thanks!
So solidly. Why is the ly disappearing from our language? Solid is an adjective. An adjective describes a noun. "He hit a solid drive." Solidly is an adverb. It modifies a verb. "The pros hit their irons solidly." This isn't that hard to understand. Eric, you are not alone with this. It's showing up everywhere.
Thanks for the feedback, Michael! Sorry about that. I have a hard time spelling my name half the time. Will work to be better.
@@CogornoGolf Honestly, I probably shouldn't have posted this last night. I guess I got a bit triggered. I see and hear this mistake made in so many places, both online, in media, and in person. I am surprised that no one on your production crew recognized your grammar error. Maybe the language is changing and I just need to get over it.
@@CogornoGolf Thank you for your channel. I have been getting better at golf and your tutorial is helpful.
No worries, Michael! I have nothing but love for you. It's a valid point. I hope you enjoyed the holiday season and some of our future videos can be of value!
Hi Eric.
Not taking it away from you Eric but you are making the golf swing so technical difficult!!!!!!
Everybody naturally moves differently.
Age, body build, flexibility.
You cannot expect everybody to do what you are showing them.
Everyone as a natural golf swing its down to a good coach to bring that out of them.
I know you favor George Gankus his Brill also but he is the same as you.
Look up Terry Bradley on the 2/6 easy golf swing with only to swing thoughts.
Now thats a way to learn to play golf.
You seem a nice guy and I would like to say thankyou for your free content on line.
Good for golf.
Thanks
Thanks for the feedback, Marcus!
Good job, shoulders aren’t talked about enough..
Thanks!
possibly the worst thing any golfer can do (whilst playing golf.) it is the left chest that rotates.
Thanks for the feedback!
@@CogornoGolf de nada. it is the left side of the head that presses down, when you start down, and not the left shoulder.
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To me this is common sense. If you are tilted forward at address, do a one piece takeaway; then your shoulders cannot help but follow this path. Yes, if you stand up in your backswing, then this path will not happen.
Yessir
Why The Pros Hit Their Irons So Solid: 5,000 range balls a week for 10, 20, 30 years.
Haha thats part of it!
They hit their irons so solid because they've hit then a million times... Look in a certified instructor as well but there's nothing I can teach you that will work if you don't put in the effort and there's some of you not coordinated enough to ever be below a 10 handicap... Yeah it pisses people off to be told that but I'm not a miracle worker.. I'm a teacher, I give you the information and it's up to you to earn the results
Thanks for the feedback my friend. No getting around hard work to get good at anything!
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"ABC ABC" is a little flagrant with his comment but he is probably thinking what I'm thinking - without some intense supervision over learning this concept you could be ingraining one of the worst moves in golf - coming up and out of your swing too early.
Appreciate the feedback!
Too complicated! To hit like a pro, go play and practice everyday like them for a good 2 yrs. i guaranty you'll hit it solid. Unless your body is shaped like them then you can think about the mechanicals. But u dont need his complication of the mechanics. Go hit balls and have fun cause u aint no pros
Thanks for the feedback!