Sam Harris: Trump, Religion, Wokeness
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Sam Harris is a neuroscientist, philosopher and author. His work touches on a wide range of topics, including rationality, religion, ethics, free will, neuroscience, meditation, psychedelics, philosophy of mind, politics, terrorism, and artificial intelligence. He is the host of the podcast, 'Making Sense' and creator of the meditation app, 'Waking Up with Sam Harris.'
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Chapters:
00:00 Trailer
03:11 Intro
06:16 Twitter: Manufacturing Discord
12:24 What Happened to the IDW?
15:01 Trump Twitter Ban
33:35 Suppression of Hunter Biden Laptop Story
43:25 Why Wokeism Is More Consequential Than Trumpism
50:54 Wokeism vs The Satanic Panic
55:39 Wokeism and Religion
01:04:55 How Wokeism Allures
01:11:23 How to Be Happy
01:23:06 Working With Negative Emotions
01:29:55 How to Solve the World's Problems
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No.
Not worth it.
That Hunter Biden Laptop story was an easy test of principle for sam and he failed it badly. The rest is just clever sounding rationalization for his own lack of principle on the issue. Next time he speaks of freedom of speech or freedom of the press, he ought to be laughed at.
That oughta be good lol
Trump has been living rent free in Sam's head for 6 years and has crowded out any rational thoughts. Sad and cowardly/sycophantic behaviour from interviewers with no pushback for utter tosh psychobabble Kamala style word salad. Trigger need to educate themselves about MAGA and have someone on to counter Sam's TDS or be found out as completely partisan. I suggest Steve Bannon or Jack Posobiec. I understand why Tim Cast blocked KK.
Sam: Makes fun of God for a living.
God: Sends an orange clown to torment Sam for eternity.
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What will sam do when/if Trump wins in 24? It will be ......!?!
I listened to every Sam Harris podcast, till his one on vaccinations, where he stated any of his peers who disagreed, challenged or critiqued the efficiency or outcomes of the new vaccine was either psychotic, schizophrenic or in some way mentally ill. That characterisation of people who disagreed with him was chilling to me. He also said on that podcast in this case he believed that other peers and professionals should be censored on media platforms if they disagreed because they pose such a danger to the population. I couldn't believe my ears after all the support he has been given to speak on sensitive issues. I discovered in that podcast the depth of his intellectual dishonesty and I didn't want to hear anything more of what he had to say.
an Icelandic study just came out that says the vaxed are MORE likely to get covid again than someone not vaxed
@@anonymoustoo4945 There is no way that Sam will take on any of the new studies and information that supports everything his very intelligent and professional peers warned about. His ego is too strong and unfortunately he's becoming quite a fundamentalist in his ideas.
@@Jack-jr1yv agree .. the most important thing one can learn is to let go of our ego .. he is wayyy far from that
@@anonymoustoo4945 his ego is his god.
It took you till *then* to realise his intellectual dishonesty?
Well, I'm glad you finally realised it, and at a crucial point in human history.
You could just tell that they were NOT happy that he laid into Trump. I’m still laughing omfg lol
Why, because you are a brainwashed TDS infected MSNBC watching rube.
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You must have been watching a different interview.
@@KentBuchla No... Kos was a bit choked...
it wasnt the laying into Trump, it was the laying into democracy
@@dugg8937 SH just spews "the narrative" with gusto. Does he really believe his BS? Everything he says Trump is doing Leftists do every minute of every hour of every single day. Truth is his enemy.
Intellectuals are no more moral or immoral than anyone else. The difference is that they have a greater ability to rationalize their beliefs. And history shows us that we can reason ourselves towards evil quite easily, as in the case of communism.
Also their reach is much greater than the days of Socrates
OR fascism🤣
yup the belief comes first then the rationalization, for most people
@@shanewilson2484 Fascism is just another form of leftism like Communism. Absolute power of the state.
Very well conducted interview. Hard to listen to due to the unabated TDS and heavy bias, but interesting nonetheless.
It really seems like Trump did something PERSONALLY to him. It's odd how his objectivity just goes out the window on anything Trump related. A real vendetta.
Yay Zuby 👋. Yeah, seems so personal. A weird grudge. He’s made a total tit of himself here
Quite phenomenal, where’s the evidence to show Trump is so much worse than Hunter?
I don’t understand how he can’t see past his own bias.
He's an intellectual elitist. I think he would be happy if a specific IQ or set of certain credentials were required to even run for the office of president of the United States.
I struggle to comprehend people, like Sam, who felt Trump is an existential threat. I just don't get it.
This is some EXTREME long haul TDS. Trump was president for four years, and not only did none of the doom and gloom predictions come to pass, but things actually ran pretty well. Good economy, ended the Korean war, Abraham accords, defeated ISIS, deescalated with Russia, energy independence and better border protection. We know Trump is an asshole, but he's effective. You're not having him over for dinner, so please judge based on policy, not personality. What harmful policies were passed that would have you overthrow the electoral process and abuse power to avoid?
"Trump clearly violated Twitters terms of service, maybe not as written, but as Twitter should have had them."
... this is amazing, does he even hear himself speak?!
I burst out laughing at that point... I couldn't believe it - the ego of that statement, amongst other things!
He ONLY hears himself speak. That’s the whole problem.
The arrogance of intellectuals.
That statement, more than anything, jumped out at me, too. Extraordinary thing for him to say.
Doublethink on full display.
Sam is really right about Trump, wrong about the Laptop, right about BLM and "wokism." He also has to let the trump thing go.
Sam Harris. I'm very comfortable with the 'dark arts' of politics as long as it benefits the side i'm on.
"Liz Cheney is a total hero" -Sam Harris 2022
Honestly...what the fuck is Sam talking about.
OMG, that said it all for me. That and comparing Trump University to Hunters Laptop. Guess he missed the circulating videos of HUNTER SMOKING CRACK GETTING a foot job in the bathtub.. so sickening. Such a criminal family. So many criminals on both sides of the Isle. DC is a swamp that will never be drained.
I think the lizards got to him.
She did the right thing... this comment section is fucking insane
@@firefly9838 maybe you are insane.
@@firefly9838 Lmfao
My follow up for Sam would have been: If twitter is a private company that only wants to publish info based on its bias and without consistent terms, why not lift its section 230 liability protection and treat it as a publisher?
Boom. There it is folks.
Yep. And I'm sure that has been an argument against him other times, but these lads are British, so they're not that familiar with the details I'd wager.
"Intellectual honesty" my bottocks. If he was intellectually honest, he'd bring that argument up himself and defeat it. Instead he strawmanned it as if the government would storm Twitter HQ with firearms and override the servers. That's never been the debate, ever. The only thing the government would do is say "Sure, go ahead and sue the platform that let [insert either Alex Jones fanatics, Ethnonationalists, BLM, Antifa, Trans activist lunatics, wokists, etc] harass you without stopping them in time.", and Twitter would be dead in a week.
My follow up would be ... But Tweeter is publicly traded company and is reimbursed from tax payer money ....
It is a publisher and the sooner it (and other sm) is treated as a publisher the better for society. Once you are capable of addressing the whole world the platform needs to be regulated.
If you have your demons you have your holies, blasphemy laws, agendas, narratives. Engines of propaganda and repression are clearly what all these lawless monopolistic platforms turned out as.
It's interesting that Sam said Twitter should be able to do as it pleases and then after Elon bought it and changed the direction so that Twitter was doing as he pleases, Sam took his bat and ball and went home.
Those two things aren’t in tension with each other. “Twitter should not be able to do as it pleases…it can run itself into the ground with wokeism or turning it into an informational cesspool and shouldn’t be impeded in doing so by any entity” that’s different than “it’s no longer psychologically beneficial FOR ME to use the platform”
@@indiemagnet so what changed?
@@indiemagnet Agree
Yes, when a Dbag like Trump takes a social media platform over, things will get dangerous, because America is full of so many stupid and angry people.... aka... Trumpers. No education, no goals, no future, no success.... and seething in hate. VERY DANGEROUS.
@@LegolasFan69 Sam made a video ‘why I left Twitter’ because some people were thinking he got banned, he didn’t. He chose to leave he said because he got into a pointless argument with a troll and he said horrible things he regretted and later reflected about it he concluded Twitter was twisting how he sees humans because it brings the worst of people to light, including the worst of himself.
Jordan Peterson went through something similar too, according to him he stopped using Twitter and had his account managed by someone else but I think now he’s back to using Twitter again.
I've become a hermit from most of social media. Hearing Sam talk about the state of current discord makes me feel confident in that choice.
It has turned a very stupid society extremely angry and even stupider.
I wouldn't trust Sam's opinion on how things are haha. he is totally triggered.
@@d3maccusYou're an idiot.
Social media is not reality and is an issue.
Sam’s defense of Twitter’s behavior is contemptible and reveals the authoritarian that he has always been from supporting eugenics policies and the war on terror in the past to his support of technocratic interference in elections today.
Perfect and to the point my friend.
what eugenics policies?
Yeah he essentially said if the people new the truth they will elect Trump again. Elites think they know what’s best for us better than we do
“War on terror” no the same as Trump !
Sam Harris is not the brightest bulb.
The lack of introspection Sam has is truly incredible. Imagine if Don Jr had a job on the board of a Ukranian gas company and there were leaked emails about cash "for the big guy" lol. Sam would have to start a new podcast series of 12 episodes to cover it.
Yeah but allegedly ripping off a few students is a far greater crime against America.
He doesn't need introspection since he's the model of rationality /s
We need more interviews and intervieERS like this. So refreshing to see people who may hold different opinions have a respectful discourse, let each other lay out their arguments without interrupting. This is why I turn to podcasts like this. I have no time for histrionic mainstream news on both dem and rep side any more. You need at least an hour to get an idea what someone stands for, to hear them out. Then you can decide whether you agree or disagree. 👍
I feel like I've done this all my life but I am constantly playing "Devil's Advocate" with myself in my head. Sounds sad but it's important to how I process what is going on in the world.
kudos. Having insight and self reflection about ones opinions and beliefs is incredibly important imo. We should all be more like you.
This is how the vast majority of activists think and view themselves, and honestly, it's refreshing to hear at least one of these utterly immoral pieces of excrement say the quiet part out loud for once.
The inevitable auto-destruction of Moral Relativism.
Finally, an ADULT GUEST in this show.
Sam does not pull any punches. Let the Trump fanatics toil in their misery. 🙄
At least he's not saying we should legalize torture like he did in the Bush years.
@@pdcdesign9632 Yes, the adult guest who openly advocates for subverting democracy because Trump was an existential threat...despite 4 years proving the contrary. The American system worked, he was held in check. But we'll openly conspire to suppress information about corruption in his political opponent because the plebs might not vote the way I want.
Agreed
So sad to watch the man who I used to consider one of the brightest intellectuals of our time first praises himself for his intellectual honesty, and then proves exactly the opposite throughout most of the interview. Awesome work by F&K to allow him to do that.
How so?
He was never the brightest. He is one of the biggest scam worshipped by atheists
I don’t get what you mean.
Yeah they must have been shocked lol
Thought the same. His true colors are shining through.
This should be called "Not... Making sense with Sam Harris"
The meditation section was the most interesting for me. Since I had CBT therapy and learned to let go of my anxiety, my head became far quieter and I stopped having so many negative thoughts.
It doesn't appear to be working for Mr Harris....
Id like to ask what CBT therapy is though pease feel free to disregard this question entirely, I would like to ask you since you found success with it
@@scottyhugefellow1447 I don't know if the other guy will respond, but I've also had success with CBT, for anger management issues. They claim it can be used for depression, anxiety disorders, alcohol and drug use problems, marital problems, eating disorders, and severe mental illness. I'd be a bit skeptical that it can be effective against the more severe problems but for mild to moderate mental health disorders it probably can be.
CBT stands for "cognitive behavioural therapy" and the basic idea is to get to understand more about why you think the way you do before you actually do it. You look at patterns of thinking and feeling and try to interrupt them. You will often be asked to keep a journal, and then look back at instances where things spun out of control and you became very depressed or angry or whatever. Then you analyse the pattern of thinking and feeling that led to things spinning out of control. Often the idea will be to nip these thoughts in the bud so you don't go down the spiral, because it can be difficult to stop the feelings overwhelming you once you've started down the spiral, because your hormones come into play.
For me, I found there were certain things that triggered my anger, and they were spread out over a few months but you could detect the pattern and then find a practical solution to them. So one thing that would set me off would be getting interrupted in the middle of work (I work from home) to go and have my dinner at 6pm. I found this was a pattern I hadn't seen before. Didn't happen every time, didn't happen that often, but the journal indicated there was a pattern. Simple solution was to set an alarm for 5:45pm every evening, and inform the wife that my work wasn't finished so I'd have to go back into my home office after dinner. Problem solved. If you keep spotting these patterns you can remove a lot of the emotional triggers. Another problem I found was that I'm too optimistic. I tend to believe it will only take me 3 hours to get to the airport, my kids can climb mountains at 7 years of age, my wife is happy with a 13 hour hike. Well it turns out that these things are not necessarily true and I need to reign in my optimism - if I don't things can go wrong and then people get angry with me and then I get defensive and then I get angry back, and I'm shouting at everybody. Nowadays I like to ask my pessimistic wife what she thinks first and then we will still do the activity but perhaps make the target easier to meet my wife's expectations and work from there.
In my case I went to group therapy sessions organised by the NHS, but you can also find a counsellor. Alternatively there are self-help books which can work, depending on your condition. You don't really need to go to a psychologist for CBT, a trained counsellor will know how to apply the principles of the therapy.
CBT is often taught alongside mindfulness. Mindfulness is like meditation without the Buddhism. The idea is to train yourself to clear your mind of all thoughts, or alternatively to focus your thoughts on one specific (and often pleasant) activity. So take CBT and depression, you might have thoughts that lead eventually to depression, and they are specific thoughts that come up time and again as shown in your journal. Now the therapist might suggest specific practical solutions to cure the real problem so it goes away. If you can do that, great. But what if you can't? Your mum's died and you miss her - you can't make that go away can you? So then the trick might be to accept you can't do anything about it and stop dwelling on the negative thoughts. Well that's where the mindfulness (meditation) comes into play - you learn to detect you are having negative thoughts of a specific type, then you say to yourself "I really don't need to be thinking about this again" and you push the thoughts out of your mind. It's a funny thing but practicing mindfulness exercises makes it much easier to push these thoughts out of your head, a bit like training your muscles to become an expert arm-wrestler. Mindfulness is also something a counsellor will likely go through with you, but there are plenty of audio exercises available online and I would suggest to anybody that they give them a go, even if you don't have mental health problems. Apart from anything else they teach you to savour the good times, as well as not dwelling on the bad times.
I hope that helps. If you have any more questions, just ask and I'll see what I can do, but I'm not an expert on CBT I just know it can work.
@@scottyhugefellow1447cognitive behavior therapy
What part/tools of CBT would you say helped the most?
Trump's election completely broke this man. He's never been the same. He can't even have a podcast talking about other things unless they're far removed from politics, because the second politics comes up, he's going on an anti-Trump rant. Sad what his personal hatred of Trump has done to him.
Trump's election broke a lot of liberals brains. They bought into nonsense of 6 years now. That's the problem.
Hes projecting his own beliefs onto the orange man.
Why does he despise Trump so much?
This is very true. I’ve listened to every episode, been a huge fan, been to his live shows, monetarily supported his podcast, etc. After Trump’s election, he just became almost unhinged when speaking about him. It’s very sad to see. Cancelled my monetary support of his podcast yesterday after watching this and giving my money where it makes sense.
@@danafoley4603 why do any of them ¯\_(ツ)_/¯ whatever is causing it is visceral and utterly blinding to them..Trumps certainly a piece of work... what my old man would call a "character" whilst raising his eyebrow to show disapproval... but this raw hatred they have for him is completely out of proportion to his actions..
Harris's biggest issue is arrogance. He is terrified of being wrong, (so wrong) on any given issue. His mind will go into a pretzel before accepting he was incorrect. You can tell everything about him from that "someone is wrong on the internet" meme. He has become a laughing stock.
And being that unable to admitting being wrong is exactly the opposite of intellectual honesty. Which makes his opening statements even more laughable.
Me and my gf are reading comments and she said: that must be a German!
@@tomghzel I'm Mexican. Your GF makes a lot of false assumptions... (Just like Harris does.)
@@tomghzel as a German I can attest that pretzels are awesome 👌🏻
@@LeutnantJoker Did you go to Stanford?
Great interview. I love it when interviewers give time to the interviewee to complete a thought and not try to show how smart they are.
Well done guys!
Yeah, yeah.
@@user-rc2xs5ti2w You are a plant pot
Konstantin is a master of this and not just in interviews. I saw him on a panel show with a climate activist. His master stroke was to simply let the other party talk and if they undo themselves so be it.
Still a fan (because intellectual honesty doesn’t require you defenestrate someone because they made a point you disagree with. It seems irrational the ppl who are like “I used to like, respect, value Sam Harris for his contributions BUT NOW😤 I won’t listen to anything else he has to say bc of this SINGULAR interview😂 why is nuance so hard for the human brain?? Why can’t it arrive at I STILL value all those things previous contributed but on this point is an example of consequentialist thinking in error. Nuanced thinking of this sort is how you inoculate against cancel culture…it’s okay to say I agree with someone 80% of the time and there are topics where I VEHEMENTLY disagree..that’s how I feel about Ben Shapiro although I haven’t checked my percentage spread in a while 😅 when did things get so all or nothing?
No. What seems irrational is Sam Harris. Someone whose only claim to prominence is : rationality.
I don't think Sam Harris is too big on nuances.
"why is nuance so hard for the human brain??" That's a very good question. So good in fact that I Googled it and found the following. Nuanced thinking often requires openness, empathy, and the ability to critically analyze complex information, which can be demanding for some individuals. Because they don't think for themselves they don't learn how to see multiple facets of a situation.
People hate nuance because its hard to understand. It makes things uncertain. You can't neatly organize nuanced ideas and you can't easily categorize people when their beliefs are nuanced. This gets frustrating for simple minds.
That said, not everyone hates nuance. Some love the complexity and enjoy the finesse required to navigate the subtle details of people, ideas, or art.
"when did things get so all or nothing?" Concurrently with the tendency to not engage in conceptual or analytical thinking, as the modern education system, the media and society in general don't encourage it, hence it's a race to the bottom with everyone becoming progressively more stupid.
I used to love this guy. He goes to show however; no matter how intelligent you are; no matter how good your reasoning abilities.. if all the information you consume is corrupted you will be wrong about everything. At some point, it is definitely his fault. He pretentiously filtered his information to only come from sources that an elite person such as himself should consume. Anyone who wasn't part of the MSM was just an 'internet goon" and therefore could be dismissed without any consideration. His world view is now built on so many lies; he seems insane.
Ok. Take what you said and turn it on yourself. How do you know that's not what you did?
Most Magapedes turned to complete unreliable commentary "news entertainment" sensationalizing content with no editorial control and Facebook and internet memes from high control groups as "truth" and never fact checked any of it.
Tell me that's not you.
@@Ciph3rzer0 Well for one, the people/groups I was listening to turned out to be right about many things. I was getting exposed to MORE context, not less than those simply listening to the deliberately de-contextualized media narratives.
For example, I knew back in 2016 that the whole Russia/Trump narrative was likely JUST a Clinton campaign strategy that the establishment decided to pick up and run with. It was in the wikileaks (which people like Sam would have no idea about because the media would not be going to talk about it). Right about the time that the media started running with baseless Trump/Russia stories; there was the leaked email exchange between Clinton campaign staff about trying to tie Trump to Putin. Over the next couple of years, more and more evidence came out from groups like Judicial watch (who actually sue the government and get documents) that were revealing the ties between the completely false Steele dossier, the Clintons, and the laundering of it into the DOJ through the husband of one of Fusion GPS employees. It showed the FBI at the highest levels were corrupt, that they hated Trump and wanted to fix the wrong 2016 result. That they knew the Steele dossier was full of bullshit; but they used it anyhow as the backbone for lying to the FISA court to get spy warrants for people within Trumps campaign.
All of this information I knew years ago and I hope by 2022 you at least have some vague acceptance that the whole Trump/Russia collusion narrative and investigations for years and years were NOTHING but bullshit. People like Sam (and perhaps you by your condescending tone) were never exposed to any of this information because the media he was drank were in on the "get Trump" bandwagon the whole time.. evidence be damned.
I'd suggest to you that his reasoning abilities may have never been that sharp.
Or more popularly said: 'deranged'
You obviously don’t have a clue about him then. His own podcast is full on people outside the mainstream and from all political view points. Sam just finds that deceit is the number one threat to democracy and trump was personal deceit on top of professional deceit on top of commercial deceit on top of political deceit. There’s zero you could say to trump to change his mind.
Imagine 15 years ago at the height of the 'Four Horseman of Atheism' imagining that *Donald Trump* would be the one to break one of those seemingly great men. Make them knock themselves of their own rational and ethical pedestal through sheer unhinged hatred and self-delusion.
the only great man of the FHOA is already dead ;)
I was never a fan of Trump (can't stand blowhards), but he's done a tremendous service to people everywhere. His ability to trigger the dormant authoritarians in our midst may be the thing that ultimately saves us all. What an amazing time to be alive
I miss hitch so much.
Wow it would be interesting to see his take on this.
Sam bitched down after hitchens
Christopher Hitchens was the greatest of them because he could actually respect his opponent. I'm reminded of his friendship with Doug Wilson in the movie "Collision".
To me this argument boils down to: do you allow someone to become president to ultimately destroy democracy or do we allow the scales to become tipped to ultimately save it. Interesting conversation all around
I was so grateful to hear the only person Ive ever heard agree with me on the topic of private business freedom to discriminate. I can only speak as an American, but I believe any company, church or other organization should be allowed to discriminate on any basis they choose - BUT organizations that *opt* not to should receive tax incentives and govt. subsidies to incentivize people who don't care or who agree with whatever it is - radical politics, gay weddings, abortion and other controversial procedures, racial or other identity inclusion - etc. and everything. This modification would allow people to fully live their consciences while ensuring opportunities for everyone, just maybe not the first person or business a customer tried.
You're certainly not the only person -- nor is Sam -- to feel that way about private business' freedom to discriminate. (Ben Shapiro is another very public figure with the same stance.) There is a difference for Twitter, however, because of what it became. The President of the United States was literally conducting official business via Tweet. It's one thing to ban a user from a coin collecting forum or a person from your local diner. It's another when no bank will take a person's business, or if companies like Nestlé or P&G refused to sell to certain kinds of people. There are products and services that become so pervasive and necessary that it's a different proposition to freeze people out from using them.
(And that's putting to the side the fact that there was government coercion in who and what was being discriminated against.)
When Sam said Brett Kavanaugh was guilty because “he looked like someone who would do that”, I was done with him. His TDS made his entire “I’m the most critically honest person in the room” motif complete garbage. Totally exposed him as a fraud. And I used to LOVE Sam.
yes indeed
Yeah- hashtag me too. This is some EXTREME long haul TDS. Trump was president for four years, and not only did none of the doom and gloom predictions come to pass, but things actually ran pretty well. Good economy, ended the Korean war, Abraham accords, defeated ISIS, deescalated with Russia, energy independence and better border protection. We know Trump is an asshole, but he's effective. You're not having him over for dinner, so please judge based on policy, not personality. What harmful policies were passed that would have you overthrow the electoral process and abuse power to avoid?
Do you (or anyone else) know the time stamp for this?
I think calling him a fraud is unfair. I think he is genuine. He's just wrong to think it's ok to sacrifice principles to get rid of a person you don't like.
I agree. That was also the moment I understud there was something horrible wrong with Sam Harris.
Jordan Peterson and Sam Harris couldn't agree on the meaning of "truth". Listening to Harris speak candidly makes it apparent that he was the wrong person to discuss truth with. I don't think he grasps truth or reality. Triggernometry let him reveal himself, well done.
well, i can put that more on peterson fault, than harris
Mobs of vicious thugs? I think Sam Harris just described the left.
Or the January 6th rioters.
Marcus Aurelius said” the noblest kind of retribution is not to become like your enemy”
The ends do not justified the means, otherwise you become as immoral if not worse than the person you’re criticising.
I love the body language of the hosts staring at Sam explain how the ends justify the means with regards to getting rid of Trump. It's almost shocking to hear Sam articulate such nonsense.
Sam said absolutely nothing wrong. Twitter should have banned trump years ago for violating their TOS and letting him spread disinformation and threats to violence.
My impression of what Sam said was if Trump as a candidate to presidency and actual president can spout conspiracies and blatant false information to gain and maintain his position, then why can’t the same be used against him. To me that sounds like a more fair and democratic society. In an ideal world everything would be based off merit and truth, but that’s not how it works, even more so in politics
@@joebaker7788 Sam says Trump University is WORSE than the "plausiable" corruption of a sitting vice president and now president getting money from the CCP.
That's besides the ch!7d p0rn, drug use, etc on his laptop AND the corruption with Ukraine.... you know... the country rhe US is sending BILLIONS of dollars and worth of military equipment to
Harris is a douchebag who admits he wouldn't care if hunter biden had buried children. That is about as low as it gets .
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I don't think I've ever seen him less coherent and articulate. The cognitive dissonance is really gumming up his synapses.
It's kind of astounding how feeble he is now, having not listened to him for a few years.
He used to be so persuasive and clever that even on issues where I fundamentally disagreed with his stance, he would really make me rethink and struggle with those issues.
He sounds like a confused doddering old man now.
Hey hey don't talk like that of the POTUS! xD xD
I relate to this sentiment a lot. He comes off confused and emotional. He never sounded like that in the past.
@@andrews.5212 TDS ate up his brain. Sad
Covid brain fog?
The take on Hunter Biden and the dead kids was not even his worst take. That dubious honor belongs to his.....explanation...of why all the wokeness intensified right as Christianity collapsed in the west. It was the most meandering, poorly thought out, dear in the headlights answer i have ever heard him give.
If one team in the "digital public square" keeps breaking the rules, I'm not going to feel like they are being unfairly targeted, I'm going to support the referees trying to make sure the game is played fairly.
It's not black and white though. On the one hand there is the "everyone equal before the freedom of speech law" principle and on the other hand there is the "but he caused the group-think wild "entrance" to the, so far, comparatively civilized and democratic government -problem and this is our own company" solution. Maybe it should be collectively discussed the criteria of these new public squares, even though they are private companies, and some legislation for the extreme cases. I don't know but this should be discussed. EDIT: or maybe legislation is a bad idea... for communist reasons, but some control is obviously necessary, and perhaps twitter should either develop better rules that they follow.
Sam likes to hear himself talk.
Don't watch then
Same. Me too.
…back for more.
Sam Harris claimed that Trump’s first term was “bad” and a second Trump term would be “worse”.
I am a simple man, not a famous writer and intelectual. The Trump economy was very good for me and millions of middle class Americans and sans Covid, there is every reason to believe that a second Trump term would have been just as good.
Instead, we are mired in the worst economy in the United Sates since Jimmy Carter’s. I am probably going to have to work an extra five years at minimum because Sam Harris and people like him were scared. He and the people like him have subjected us all to a fate worse than scary Tweets and now this cabal, because it is NOT a normal administration (if you believe Biden is the actual President then you haven’t seen so much as one of his public appearances) . Record inflation, spikes in crime, impossible to find housing , lingering supply chain problems, etc. Things are not going well under this administration and they are getting worse. People are struggling and all because they were scared of his Tweets.
Spot on. I'm not American but I don't get how anyone still can pretend that Biden was better than Trump in any way (or in fact that Trump was bad to begin with)...
You forgot to mention the botched Afghanistan withdrawal that cost 13 Marines and hundreds of locals their life and left billions worth of war machinery to the Taliban. Or the fact that we have a war in Europe under Bidens watch. While Trump stood for global military disengagement and peace efforts (Abraham Accords, meeting Kim Yong Un and successfully deescalated on the Korean peninsula)..
The USA was objectively better off under Trump than it is under Biden. The world was better off with Trump calling the shots. Biden has been a disaster. I don’t know what Harris is talking about. For someone who claims to value reason and logic, he doesn’t seem to care much about numbers and statistics, or objective reality.
Sam doesn't care about any of this. He's too rich to care about the cost of groceries or oil. These are working class concerns that out of touch elitists like him do not understand. He and Bill Maher wanted an economic collapse to get rid of Trump. See how much they care about the actual sufferings of real people?
I agree that you're a simple man. You can thank Obama for the good economy, not that you will dream of doing any such thing. The economy is adding jobs at a record rate and inflation is going down. I respectfully suggest you pull your head out of your ass and look at the real situation, not the fever dreams they give you on Fox News.
But what you are failing to realize is that the 2 years BIden has been in office have little to nothing to do with the ebbs and flows of a global economy. You'd have a stronger argument levying your criticism against Trump, or Obama, or Bush, or better yet...Reagan's administration, which mortgaged all of our futures on asinine economic theory.
Sam is a great example that reading 10 books a day doesn't mean shit you can still form incredibly deranged ideas
Very true.
Do you want to buy a bridge?
Absolutely right.
I don't think anybody thinks reading 10 books a day necessarily makes you anything but a rabid reader.
Reading 10 books a day and being that naïve means he is reading so fast that he absorbed none of the information. It defeats the entire purpose of reading...
Why do they never say what policy’s trump enacted in office that they don’t like?
To paraphrase he sees half the population as a basket of deplorables.
How can anyone accept this man's level of "Literally Joe Biden could have done ANYTHING and it wouldn't be worse than Trump" and still consider him a logical, non-corrupted thinker in the slightest? Sam Harris has sold his soul.
typical TDS sufferer.
Yes he has. What an ignorant fool he is.
Sam sucks
Yeah, he’s been completely unhinged on this stuff since 2015. Had to stop with his pods around ‘17 because in Sam’s mind, all roads lead to Trump.
How come Trump can't be criticized without Cons saying TDS? As if Trump has never done anything wrong in his life
“When do you want to cease being angry so you can function intelligently” - wise words from you, Sam. When will you implement that advice?
Oh good. The eternal Spiderman finger pointing circle. Western Civilization's current mood.
How any sane person should read your comment: "Stop talking bad things about my Orange god ): "
@@Zerradable It's good to know that power and maintaining it is more important to you than speaking and maintaining truth. The truth isn't always comfortable, but to completely to deny it is pathetic. You have let your hatred of Trump literally inhibit your ability to think critically, as exhibited by your ridiculous comment.
-Sincerely,
Someone who never supported Trump
@@Zerradable you too suffer from TDS... Sad
Sam and his peers suffer from a massive case of folie a deaux.
Geez, so good, discussion with really smart people, some of whom you could disagree with...💪🏻loved it
Woof... the self importance of this guy is painful. Totally hear loud and clear how he is fine with the levers of power doing anything to secure an outcome he agrees with.
It's the exact opposite, he wants a person who obviously abused his power to be pu ished for it.
@@fuckwit6081 at any cost.
If you want to posit that his sole interest is justice for his abuse of powe,, then both you and he need to show me his demonstrated zeal at holding George Bush, Barak Obama, Hillary Clinton, Joe Biden, The NSA, The FBI, The CIA, and The CDC, (to list a few obvious players) accountable for their demonstrated abuse of power and corruption.
As it stands all I see is someone willing to have power that is aligned with his politics and world view use that power in anyway conceivable to punish those he disagrees with.
Hardly a well thought out or acceptable position.
You weren't listening.
I never thought I'd see Sam Harris so blatantly show how immoral and politically inept he is.
When you have no foundation for where your morality comes from, you can conveniently dismiss it in favor of "my truth" or "I know best because I said so".
Where have you been since 2016?
He’s always been like this he just doesn’t try and hide it with very slow carefully thought out language
@@transfiguration8865 it was there, just not as blatant.
@@NativeNewMexican some of his pinned tweets since Trump has been elected have shown this fairly blatantly.
Sam is scattered and totally lost in this interview. It's strange seeing him justify horrible immoral ideas with little to no actual evidence. This was very weird.
It's sad that for years he advocate rationality, promote free speech and anti censorship.
Today he is opposite what he used to advocate like more emotional, anti free speech and pro censorship.
Not to mention "hollier than thou" attitude that he adopt today.
Trump scammed people with Trump University therefore we must actively destroy every system and principle this country was founded upon in order to see he never comes close to power again. Let us ignore those who would claw their way to the top in the confusion. They're no threat, I promise. They're the good guys, trust me. Blue checks on Twitter are intelligent, adversarial journalists to the permanent state, take my word for it. Dead kids in the basement? Trump might try to sell me some shitty steaks. Yuck.
Sam is an intelligent person. It is incredible how a mind like his can be so thoroughly broken by TDS, but it really makes you wonder if Sam can succumb to it then how easily lesser men did, too.
I thought so as well. I had trouble following his thought train and the accusations without any evidence was disingenuous. There are a few times he starts to form a coherent thought and then immediately drops into TDS/Alex Jones hate.
@@yudhiadhyatmikosiswono9082 Trump really broke a lot of people including very intellectual people. They had it in their mind that society would continue on a certain course and when trump put a halt to that it really damage them. Probably living under 4 years of a president you despise is enough to do that to many people. We really are 2 different countries forced to occupy the same space.
Which ideas do you find unjustifiable?
Sam really has a hard time answering a question in less than 5 minutes lol.
He certainly didn’t inherit his mother’s sense of humor. Hard to believe his mother produced the Golden Girls and other great sitcoms.
He said the quiet part out loud...
These intellectuals dont care about democracy or your right to choose who governs you and Sam is doing some GIANT backtracking
Of course they don't care about democracy, because it means the plebs would be making the big decisions rather than just the enlightened intellectual elite. The same elite who think their position entitles them to rule on the lesser people's behalf as they see fit.
It's always a big shock for them to notice they really aren't superior to the layman or when the layman isn't as petty and stupid as they've convinced themselves to believe.
100%, they would rather we be ruled by so called "experts" than anything else.
Cognitive Dissonance is a helluva drug...
They think we are not smart enough to know who to vote for and what is right.
He is the perfect encapsulation of the arrogance and pomposity of these elite leftist.
I have more respect for corrupt charlatans like Biden and Clinton that I do for this arrogant dickhead.
Sam Harris appears to be saying that people should be taken-out, by any means necessary, before they can ever run for political office, because he personally is the supreme judge of the Universe.
That is exactly what he is saying. And the hypocrisy of that coming from someone criticizing Islam, for saying it holds the ultimate truth, is through the roof.
His political opinion are worth more than yours so he can justify any lie to implement his politics.
His stupidity creates a massive arrogance.
@@LeutnantJoker easy to criticize medieval barbarians, even if they had no choice where they were born or what evil they were taught as children.
But Trump has already run for office. And he was trash. Yall are just slurping on his berries like he's your daddy, and can do no wrong.
@Manish Mims is there a video about them?
Sam admitted that he’s perfectly reasonable and capable of lying in the pursuit of what he believes is a greater good.
Wrap your head around that.
Of the many criticisms one could level at San Harris here, I'm not sure how well that one really lands.
Bear in mind this is the man who defines morality as the maximising of human happiness and minimising of human suffering... Does telling a lie or two to ensure consequences that would benefit them not fit his definition of "moral"?
I thought he acquitted himself very poorly here, and showed an insight into a character that's not nearly as benign as often made out, but I'd rather find arguments that wouldn't have obvious responses... To each their own, perhaps?
Who isn’t
He's a liar for sure and defending him over it is admitting that you worship human beings. Christians don't believe in theocracies... Catholics do but not Christians... Let Caesar's be what Caesar's.
What a strange thing to say. Everyone should be capable of lying in the pursuit of what they believe is the greater good, and this is trivial to show. If you can't think of a few examples of situations where lying in pursuit of a greater good is morally obligatory... then you either lack imagination or you lack a reasonable set of ethics.
@@jaarneal you’re right but don’t get upset when you lose all credibility when you become a known liar. That’s all I meant by that.
35:14
"But if you accept my supposition that this is the public square, then it is the law."
Yeah, that's what it means to have a disagreement.
I felt like I was watching a documentary where they wanted to give a living example of "elitism" and "trump derangement syndrome" trapped in one man's formerly sane mind.
There is no question that elites will rule you, but what kind matters.The Trump Derangement Syndrome? Lol Show your cards why don't you.
The worlds smartest reeetard. It was one of the most petty and moronic takes from someone who’s supposed to be an intellectual and deep thinker. His answers were that of children, like he never gave a second of thought to any position he stands on. Outstandingly unimpressive
Trump derangement syndrome*?
Quite the opposite, a neuroscientist who recognises a dangerous psychopath has manipulated cult followers into giving him power. He's exactly right. Nothing to do with being left either btw. This is a common opinion among rational people in the middle ground and on the right. He has a cluster B personality disorder and should be nowhere near power. Anyone who understands personality disorders can see it so clearly.
I hope Sam sees this interview in 5 years and realizes how uninformed he sounds in respect to the accomplishments of the first term and the absolutely Goebbles-esque reality warping, gaslighting efforts by 90% of the media
Even Bernie Sanders said that kicking Trump, then still the sitting president, off Twitter, was a bad precedent to set.
Sanders had his moments.
@@Si_Mondo It's more like the moments where he failed were so monumental that they overshadowed his better moments. I still think that if it wasn't for that podium hijack, he would've been the Dem nominee against trump. That would've been very interesting to see and even more interesting if he'd won.
Alas, the podium was taken, Hillary was the nominee and Sanders fell in line.
It's amazing how determined people are to be one sided... Russia Ukraine Israel Hamas conflicts would have never sparked had Trump been in power. Whether you like him or not, he was successful at maintaining and working towards the closest thing to peace we have seen in a long time
The first line - intellectual honesty - so high and mighty and such lack of self awareness. Hypocrisy and smugness knows no bounds - Sam is the poster child for both. Thanks guys for providing the forum and asking the questions that leave no doubt as to his TDS and the lefts appetite to burn down very institution to achieve their goals.
For as much as Sam rails against religious people this dummy is as mind controlled as isis.
It was like watching a car crash, seeing in real time how badly that aged. Can't write this stuff
What’s he intellectually dishonest about?
@@Theactivepsychos Can pseudo-intellectuals be dishonest?
@@simpleton8073 you know anyone can be dishonest right?
I have to add: Sam is now officially part of the problem, not the solution.
Sam isn't a problem, there's a dozen more ppl like him willing to take his spot. The problem is people got a taste of progressiveness, and they completely forgot about the ground they were standing on, and they just keep pushing the boundaries, when they need to take a step back, and remember what got us here in this advanced society. It's a corrupt version of progressiveness. Destroy the idea, not the person.
@@salvatoriom7422 agreed and well put.
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Can anyone sum up what happened for someone (me) who's lazy/busy to watch this today?
@@davidabkk Actual Justice Warrior has a pretty good analysis on it
As someone who has been impressed by Sam, I cannot believe how much he's twisted intellectual thought to just be on his side of thinking despite the obvious flaws if those thoughts are taken to their own inevitable ends!
What thoughts specifically? A quote would be appreciated.
i guess that’s technically a sentence
around 30ish minutes Sam says, he would be okay with someone not being investigated for being a child murderer if it would prevent Trump from being a elected a 2nd time.... that's pure trump derangement syndrome@@TheGreenHeartofItaly-fl3wv
@@meshzzizk Technicalities aside it is a mark of decency to address the content rather than make a trite criticism of the writing or writer.
@@TheGreenHeartofItaly-fl3wv lmao it is a MARK of DECENCY SIR to ADDRESS the CONTENT of the NEBULOUS WORD SALAD. listen, if you can find any, then by all means, do the right thing
This is my second view of Sam, The first being the interview of Brett Weinstein about Sam. I am unconvinced by him and his arguments. The govt wanted to exclude certain people from social media, not force them to accept the "deplorables" . On Trump.....how much hatred vitriol and misinformation did he have to suffer. For the record Trump was defending himself. Sam is in favour of banning and cancelling. No to Sam.
This guy is utterly psychotic.
I’ve never held against Harris being born into hundreds of millions of dollars, thus allowing him to engage in utter idolatry and frivolity and self serving nonsense with no fear of starving.
That was a terrible mistake on my part.
You are not alone... it's like he microwaved his head but somehow retained that pompous tone and manner of speaking.. he sounds soooo high on hearing his own voice.. the introduction they gave didn't help, however it may have been strategic in order to lower his guard completely.. I like how the hosts talk very little, do not lead and just let their guests go on about themselves
He basically sounds like any British toff too :- conceited, narcissitic, vainglorious.
@@mark4asp an utterly apt comparison given the UK's track record of defending pedophilia and child abuse.
@@FolstrimHori and the us government as well as the entire democrat party embracing grooming and pedophilia
yep … he has NO IDEA what it feels like to be a normal American … he is textbook left/commie
The contempt in Sam's eyes when Francis challenged him said it all.
What was timestamp
Yeah whats the time stamp on that?
In
@@testudo2185 I guess around 37:37
I don't see it. I did notice that there's absolutely no soul in his eyes though, much less a conscience.
Sam Harris is the most sane, logical person I’ve ever heard.
Dude said Trump clearly violated the terms of service, and in the same breath said or what their terms of service should have been. He's a joke.
@@pickj76 Ya. So? It’s a private company. They can decide what to allow on their platform. A responsible company wouldn’t allow someone that spews lies constantly and vilifies anyone that opposes him, putting their lives in danger by his cult followers.
This rambling, incoherent explanation for going against everything this country is founded on shows what happens when a great intellect is not grounded in morality and objective truth.
Well, to be fair to Sam, he does claim to be grounded in those two things. His entire career is based on attempting to articulate an objective morality. The issue is not his ostensible lack of morality or favor of objective truth, but his ego.
I've been hearing a lot about Sam Harris recently and was curious about his views. Thank you, FF & KK, for saving me the trouble of investigating further.
I was thinking the same thing...heard much about him but not from him. I got through half of it (Trump stuff) then that was enough.
Finally, an ADULT GUEST in this show.
Sam does not pull any punches. Let the Trump fanatics toil in their misery. 🙄
@@pdcdesign9632 why spam the same comment everywhere? Pathetic.
I actually had a ton of respect for him, going back years. Wow. That was ugly.
@@Atomb same
It just goes to show that you don't need religion to be blinded by ideology. It's sad to see the state Sam is in.
This is amazing. It's like he's not even the same guy!
I don't think atheism is exempt from becoming the basis for a religion. Once things get to the point of having an all-encompassing Grand origin story (GOS Evolution), which is taken to be THE TRUTH, religiously, I think it will operate as a religion.
@@johnknight3529 you may have misunderstood what atheism is. Atheism is the null hypothesis of the god question. If you were an atheist, you'd neither believe a god exists, nor believe a god does not exist. It's not an assertion on the god question, and it certainly isn't an assertion about evolution (?)
Atheism isn't necessarily the basis of a religion, but I will agree that there are a ton of people who are self-proclaimed atheists for very dogmatic reasons.
@@jmh31890 I don't see how it's even possible for it to be the basis of a religion. There isn't really anything one can deduce from the statements "There is no god" or "I'm not convinced there is a god". Whatever moral framework is formed needs to be based on additional assumptions.
@@martinm6368 those who misunderstand what atheism is such they assert "there is no god" and subscribe to it as dogma would be a solid foundation for a religion, from my perspective. Though, I guess then it depends on how you define religion and my usage of the word here is something akin to "dogmatic belief"
Edit: a word
Great interview guys, I don’t agree with everything Sam believes, but I do agree about disconnecting with meditation and to disengage with angry people on social media.
Sam is quite eloquent yet to quote Andy Dufrane - "How can you be so obtuse?"
I used to watch this guy in school being a snarky atheist, then slowly became intellectually alienated from him
Well the snarky Atheist will always shift over to the next figurehead, without ever having to acknowledge that they were publicly wrong about something. Reminds me of Catholics who protected abusive priests.
@@TOUGHEYES I can't speak for your experience, of course, but in America the % of pedophiles in public schools is greater than the percentage in the Church. On the merits, you're right, The Catholic Church owns a number of monasteries on rocks sticking out of the North Sea and could have put all the pedo priests in those... but literally nobody understood that these guys can't get better at the time.
Hopefully you've dropped the snarky athiest part too. It can be healed with maturity and time.
Johann - Does that mean that you are now a theist,? Or are you an atheist who chooses not to be snarky? Or something else entirely?
@@TOUGHEYES brutal!
I admired this man for his intellectual rigor. Here, he is arguing that immoral means to achieve a noble end (in his opinion) is perfectly fine. If that is true then his philosophy crumbles like a house of cards.
By that argument a religious maniac stabbing Rushdie to achieve a purportedly noble end would be fine and dandy.
Well, maybe it is. Was firebombing German cities moral? No. Did it help achieve the greater good of ending war? Yes. Life is complex.
@@dickmonkey-king1271 Indeed. Soviet and German annihilation of millions was even better. Welcome to moral bankruptcy!
He should be reminded of the proverb The Road To Hell Is Paved With Good Intentions
@@dickmonkey-king1271 No it isn't, and the fire bombing of cities is an extremely immoral act and you thinking that you get to decide that supposedly helping to end the war (soldiers fighting soldiers) is the greater good (against roasting non-combatants including children and babies in their homes) shows a staggering level of intellectual arrogance.
@@SMacCuUladh Sorry, I should clarify... It wasn't me making those decisions. I'm only 39. I wasn't around then, and I wasn't one of the great figures of history who saved our civilisation against the greatest evil the world has ever known who made those decisions. But I agree... these actions were horrific - truly barbaric. But when you realise that the Nazis killed 27 million Russians, performed medical experiments on children, and exterminated millions of undesirables, then, maybe, just maybe, it was wroth engaging in barbaric acts to stop an even greater barbarity. But I don't know. You seem to be pretty certain about these things. You tell me. Maybe we should have been nicer in fighting the Nazis. And if that meant a few more million Jews being killed, then so be it. If that means a few more thousand children being dissected alive, then cool. Etc. etc. You see, for you it is easy to open your mouth and sound high and mighty in your morality because you probably haven't given any of these issues a second thought. For you, the import is to appear to be virtuous, not to actually wrestle with and understand such complex and diabolical issues. Nevertheless, it was just an example. And I am sure you can think of an example where a little bit of bad means is justified for a good ends.
for reference, here is Konstantin's interview with Sam H. Sam's advocacy for censorship starts about 30:00 and heats up about 35:00, corpses about 36:10
Is twitter censorship censorship by a Private Business or by a Government Agency?
@@hellodavey1902 (1) freedom of speech is an ethos as well as a legality. Sam H generally advocates for the ethos, but makes an exception for here, which means that his advocacy was always a farce.
(2) Have you seen the twitter files (any of the episodes)? If yes, why are you asking the question? If no, where have you been?
"10 minutes is enough to ruin your life." - Sam Harris
Prophetic
I was not sure about posting on this video but I have a genuine question. Firstly, I am no fan of President Trump and admit he can be brash, divisive, controversial etc. However, what exactly did he do wrong during his time in office? Trump did not start any wars, the US economy was strong and providing opportunity to many, he was trying to get a grip on illegal immigration, he promoted American self reliance on energy and no doubt many other things. Was Donald likable? Probably not and his use of Twitter was very questionable. I am not sure any of this is reason to circumvent democracy. As for the Biden administration, it is far too early to see how history will remember his presidency. America has a buckling economy, a proxy war in Ukraine, 40 year highs in inflation, tensions with China over Taiwan, an even more divided nation. Is this really a better situation? Playing Devil’s Advocate…
Precisely! Asking a leftist what Trump has actually done so wrong is an excersize in futility. The best they can come up with is 'awful tweets'. Just the same with asking them to define a woman. No coherent answers.
Also Operation Warp Speed. The crazy son of a bitch actually got us a vaccine
Sam dismissed policy outright in the interview. There is nothing Trump did, nor could he do, to earn redemption in Sam's eyes for past sins.
Pulling out of the Paris climate deal seemed not good.
but somehow he was a wrecking ball 😂
When it comes to trumps Twitter ban, Sam is using libertarian free association arguments, which are fine, but he would never support those arguments in any other context. In reality, the government already says businesses can't discriminate against their customers, why would Twitter be any different?
Plus that Twitter is enjoying a legal liability shield from the government with section 230. If Twitter wants to take a political stance, by all means, but it has to renounce its status and privilege as a public carrier in that case.
Yeah, it's always been amazing how the left is for free association when it suits them and never are otherwise. I don't think the right is great consistently on this either, but at least has some among its ranks that are pretty solid (well the more libertarian among them at least).
Also, Twitter is publicly traded and receives tax breaks. At that point, the government does in fact get a say.
Also, Sam can't reconcile how blogs, publishers, and social media platforms work or skirt around legal requirements.
@@cendrizzi the only ones consistent on free association are people who are openly against it (authoritarians, traditionalists etc) and anarchists (usually ancaps)
I came here to present this exact same argument!
I get what he is saying, but i think for the trumpets listening the second he says something inflammatory like the kids quote, their minds shut down and they don't hear anything he says after that.
Information is suppressed and amplified to serve the interests of those who own that information all the time. None of our news or social media platforms are unbiased and they never will be unless we nationalize them.. which would be its own even worse nightmare.
I don't know if Harris know that, but he built his career over it and just can't retreat now... But there's an enormous problem with his philosophy. Namely, he based it all on a premiss, that religion is the biggest threat to humankind, as it's not based on reason. He didn't ever understand, that religious thinking can't just be separated from human experience. He was close to admit it, as Peterson called him on Hitlerism and Stalinism on their debate. Harris himself mentioned, that those weren't exactly religion-free philosophies, but quazi-religions. So are his beliefs. There is no escape. If you think, that you're 100% reasonable and dogmatism doesn't exist in your life, all what happens is that unconscious problem manifesting itself without your control. Here we can see it very well. He could throw his ethics on a pile of rubbish, because he believed in a dogma of the ultimate enemy that must be stopped at all cost. Everyone sees how unreasonable he is, but he's religious passion closed his cognition on it.
BTW as Harris got the question about religion from Konstantin it's so obvious, that he just quickly thought how he makes it not the case only because of his hate against religion. The arguments he mentioned are really vacant, given that Nietzsche has given a more complete answer more than 100 years ago. Where's that "intelectual honesty", when we just forget about the intelectual progress of the mankind?
How can Sam square claiming all Trump supporters are psychopaths while also arguing for social engineering for the "greater good"?
Because he lives by "do good" instead of "don't be evil".
"The greater good" is dangerous. People believing in "the greater good" is too often ready to sacrifice the individual on their way. A Lot of the real evil stuff of history were done by zealots thinking they were serving something good.
Not much evil has ever been done by those who refuse to trample on the individual on their way.
He's evil and he likes it. That's why.
I think he meant Trump and Jones are the ‘psychopaths’ and the supporters are merely ‘morons’. Nice way to win friends and influence people/at least half the country hey!
@@veryverysaline3376 nothing screams objective as the exact dialouge trees I can find on reddit and twitter. Its almost as if leftists are not real people. They're literally NPC characters with the same programming.
When you have no firm grounding for your morality, and outright reject that a firm grounding exists, it's easy to dismiss your morality in favor of "the greater good" as you see it.
"They're just talking to themselves. And claiming they know things they don't know." And the rest of that rant. Lmao the irony. Someone hold a mirror to this man!
The woke thing won't just go away. You can't get away with what's been suggested. There will be a backlash and it might be even worse. It's like a car that's started sverwing to left and right at a high speed. It will end up in a ditch.
39:14.
The system is corrupt.
So it is morally defensible to subvert the democratic process to ensure the candidate you approve of is given power over the person you disapprove of.
Not anti-democratic ... much.
“Intellect is not wisdom.” “Some of the biggest cases of mistaken identity are among intellectuals who have trouble remembering that they are not God.” Dr. Thomas Sowell, a true genius.
[51:18] sums up this interview
The problem with intellectuals and other academically gifted people is that they think they are brilliant in all aspects of life and they think know better than everyone about everything: this is why they never develop and lack wisdom and self awareness.
@@jackspring7709 Nearly ALL are only gifted in a few aspects of life and TERRIBLE at the others.
@@espada9 Very true - and they all insist that they know what's best for everyone - sometimes with catastrophic consequences.
Great quotes that definitely sum up the dysfunction we’re seeing here.
Its amazing how the media has propagandized normally smart people to the point where they're simply NPC's who use bigger words and have longer winded explanations that ultimately ends up at the same "Orange Man Bad" conclusion.
Imagine letting one man who you've never met in person completely control your ability to critically think.
Way to go Sam, you did it!
It's amazing how the chud universe has made a billion little Magapede automatons that simply boil any criticism of their big beautiful boy to TDS and "orange man bad"
It truly is impressive how many of you barely functioning brainstems there are out there.
Yup
Absolutely correct. I just cannot understand, especially with the latest FBI debacle, that people like Harris aren't even beginning to see what has been going on with the quest to finish Trump.
i know right? got so tired of all the 'mustache man bad' that happened in the 1950s. Ugh! come up with better arguments
ironic, isn't that what the trump sheep do every day? they don't think they just do/say whatever trump tell them.
These two look heartbroken as Sam very clearly lays out the may arguments against their beloved trump.
I feel like I’m watching one of those police interrogation videos where the suspect is so confidently stupid that he thinks his confession will impress the detectives.
You must be a dumb dumb then
Yup that would never be the right...
The look on Konstantin and Francis' faces when it cuts to them after he says, "Liz Cheney has no bigger fan than me" says it all.
As a Wyomingite, I can say it showed how he lacks any awareness of the little people.
I see nothing surprising about Sam Harris holding in such high regard the daughter of and aspiring warmonger and war criminal herself, Liz Cheney. That the Cheneys are now the darlings of the supposed left is evidence to me that we are actually living in a simulation and whomever is in charge of it is really fucking with us now.
Sam: thank you for teaching me to be against the censorship that you now stand for.
This is extremely sad to me. I loved waking up the book and his free will book. He was always one of my favorite thinkers. He stood for free speech, stood next to hitch, and always brought forth rational & well thought out responses. However it seems as though covid and Trump broke his brain. He’s another victim. He took the stance of being pro-mandate and pro vax. He didn’t challenge the cdc & the sketchy data coming out. Further, It was so sad seeing him be pro-Censorship and be against freedom of information. he took the weird stance of “orange man bad no matter what” which can be seen in this interview.
Didn’t work too well for Liz either.
Was scrolling quickly, reading most comments and was waiting for someone sane to actually comment. I thought I was the only one who saw what you saw! I like to think my self as an independent mind, but Sam’s current views spew “hate the orange man, censorship is alright”
It has been so sad to see him completely lose it.
Agree. Use to love listening to Sam. He was a deep thinker. Maybe i'm wrong, maybe he is, but he doesn't seem to be standing back and thinking through these issues
I believe his late friend Christopher would offer him a well-deserved Hitch slap for this.
Chesterton said it but was not the original author.
When men choose not to believe in God, they do not thereafter believe in nothing. They then become capable of believing in anything.
Émile Cammaerts~
So Sam agrees with some of Trump's policies and, on Lex Friedman's podcast, said he agreed with "many" of his policies ... since that's the case, why was Trump so dangerous? He got stuff done, and he scared the hell out of every other world leader because he has balls. Russia would not have invaded Ukraine if Trump won. Also, how could any human being not come off as unhinged (sometimes) if tens of millions of people are attacking him about things that ended up not being true?
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"he agreed with "many" of his policies ... since that's the case, why was Trump so dangerous?"
Politicians are more than their political positions. Saying that the only way Joe Biden could win in 2020 was via fraud was clearly not a policy position. It is a claim about the world. And if people believe the claim (which was preposterous), very bad things can happen. Like January 6th. We are lucky that January 6th was as minor as it was, and that more people weren't killed. Now that Trump supports pardoning those who infiltrated the halls of the most important and powerful democratic institution that has ever existed... you can bet the next such insurrection will be worse.
"Russia would not have invaded Ukraine if Trump won."
I suspect this myself, but I don't know it, and neither do you.
"Also, how could any human being not come off as unhinged (sometimes) if tens of millions of people are attacking him about things that ended up not being true?"
Every single President of the United States in the last 50 years, plus many other figures, have managed it. Welcome to dealing with the media maturely... it's called having a "thick skin".
Is Sam seriously this intellectually blind to his own ideas? I am genuinely jaw dropped listening to him stumble through answering these questions about Trump v Twitter.
Go watch his opinions on recent health mandates on locals. It gets worse.
He's trying to manufacture consent among the people on the behalf of the managerial class (the current order), to which he belongs. They are existentially threatened by Trump and the plebs (their purported service unit, as it were).
He's also not very good at it lol.
Trump may be a lot of things but as soulless as the current order, that he is not.
Go home.
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Yes, he is. I was an ardent supporter and fan of his for many years, but during the Trump years, his Twitter capture started to shine through. About a year ago he did a podcast explaining why he personally contacted Jack Dorsey to have Trump removed. This was shocking behavior from a one time personal hero. It was when he started raving about NFTs that I turned off the podcast and desubscribed from it and his meditation app.
It hurts me to know how low Twitter and ego have dragged this once great man.
The two T's are total worthless garbage. That's how they are similar. We would be better off without them.
My nigga i was couldn't believe it either. #DAFUQ?!
I've never been a huge Harris fan, but I've always found his quirky perspective to be a valuable addition to the IDW. This interview completely collapses any respect I have for him, however. His total lack of recognition of his own hypocrisy - and the sheer magnitude of his blind spots - are just stunning. I wont spend another minute on him.
I used to listen to him all the time but stopped because it seemed every discussion with him devolved to Trump. I have always wondered if I was being unfair but this interview tells me I was not mistaken, he has TDS.
Another comment lambasting h without a single example why. Tell us why he is so wrong on one of his points! I’m not seeing it
I couldn’t believe everything he was saying. He doesn’t seem to be able to see himself honestly. He seems to think that he is superior intellectually than everyone else…I couldn’t even believe how he threw everyone in the “intellectual dark web” under the bus. just wow! Everyone deserves a bit of criticism but he basically called them morons which obviously they all are very intelligent people.
Intellectuals like Sam always seem to believe that they are worldly and that everyone else is living in a small bubble of nativity but it is really them that that live in the smallest bubble. never exposing themselves to other people and other thoughts. he is as closed minded as one can be. I might believe strongly in what i believe but at least i can recognize how nothing is simple and understand how other people come to different conclusions without demonizing them. just wow!
@@topdog5252 All of his assertions about subverting democracy stem from the supposed "existential threat" Trump represented. No one believes that after 4 years of a Trump presidency, the system worked. Trump was held in check. ...but we're gonna suppress information about corruption in Biden because the "morons" might vote for Trump instead.
Well said. He is a fraud.
It's a sad day when the Brits are have to explain to the American how freedom works
This reminds me of the Time magazine article ( March 2022) boasting how the anti-Trump dirty tricks campaign to "fortify" the Liberal vote were justified to ensure the correct candidate was elected.
So censoring and lying isn’t above them… why should we allow partisans to run our elections
I followed Sam for years and respected him. It is today that my opinion of him has changed. He and his line of thought is literally part of the problem and the reason why this country has had such a HUGE moral decline.
"You must elect MY candidate or you are a Nazi" and "everything done to stop the Nazis is ok by me"
@Joe and The Ho Gotta Go You think that's bad? I voted for Biden! I admit it, I was part of the problem. NOT ANYMORE!
Keep in mind the neoconservatives have the same mindset. Both the modern left and right advocate lying and misrepresenting the truth.
America is doomed unless enough people decide that the truth is important.
@@RenlangRen I see republicans are easily able to have a conversation whereas the left (any left) do not know how to converse.
If one side refuses to have a conversation it's all for nothing. I left the democrats. They supported my thoughts but gave no reasons. I was just a sucker....
Took you tell today?
Can't believe I once admired Sam Harris. His complete lack of any self awareness is breathtaking
His smugness screamed GRIFTER! at my first exposure.
yep don't you feel sheepish haha
Saw him as a hack of sorrs several years ago. He's been high on hia own flatulence foe quite sometime.
i always knew he was a shmuck
@@wizard4203 I'd say I'm more gullible than sheepish
Help me understand; Does Intellectually honest mean intellectually stupid these days?
1:15:51 For most people, most of the time thoughts are incessant, uninspected and their arising is unnoticed. [The object of meditation is to interrupt the identification of self with this voice], where suddenly mind is much more vast... so that it doesn't feel like there's a subject in your head, looking out through your eyes, at a world that is not you, forever implicated in the glances and opinions of other people, thinking it's just me in here, and my embattled ego, trying to navigate a world that is fundamentally or at least potentially hostile to my interests.
1:34:58 Your capacity to be offended is not something that anyone need or should respect in you.
"Conscious evil is a rare thing" he says, immediately after saying that the second most powerful person in the western world knows the numbers but it's not in her political best interest to reveal them. This man's mental gymnastics are astonishing.
I thought the same thing there.
"Sam doesn't believe in God, but he believes in the devil - and it's Trump" - Dave Rubin
Laugh Out Loud
So true!
This is a brilliant quote by Rubin
May have some veracity, but consider the asinine source 🤣
No because that’s an ad hominem. Which in truth merely reveals your own asininity
Totally agree with Sam's point just after the 31:05 mark.
I used to be a frequent listener and reader of Sam, but something changed in him during the Trump era and the COVID pandemic. He’s become remarkably arrogant and snobbish, which is quite astonishing to witness. It makes me wonder if he ever introspects and considers the possibility of being wrong.