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It would be a good thing to have a TV program to discuss the lies that these people tell. Their acolytes may not watch it but it would be good to call them out. It may annoy them and that would be a good thing.
@@jacklondon999I would be more interested if S. Harris was more evenhanded and cautioned the Israeli PM not to overreach or listen to the orthodox in Israel. Maybe now that the orthodox have to serve in the army they will be less militant. Evenhandedness wins support; one-sidedness does not. Stay off Christianity; the Church was tasked with keeping the Dark Occult out of the mainstream on the ascent from The Dark Age to the Age of Reason. Harris is clueless about this so until he educates himself, he shouldn’t comment on it. The Cartoonists were stupid; is it the business of the free press to mock anyone’s religion or belief? With all the problems in the world they should find something better to do.
This is the most I ever heard Sam discuss his own spiritual searching and the personal suffering that brought him there. You gave Sam a lot of space to expand upon themes. Great super rich conversation!
I made it 37 min in and bailed but stopped here before leaving and will at min find the portion you reference. Sam is brilliant enough to sound so even when he is pounding sand with his own biases, rationalizations and invocation of sweeping generalizations that, to be correct, would require a level of intimate knowledge of the hearts of billions of people to be founded on anything but what is essentially an elitist and one liberal worldview that is stuck in the best moments and the apex of utility of the new atheist moment. Even then, he was willing to ignore the depth of history and the layers of obvious resource and geopolitical primacy that underlie the whole Jihad vs McWorld thesis (the foundation of the post soviet reboot of empire/western centric status quo). Jihad was an obscure, irrelevant relic until our heavy handed post OPEC machinations in the oil drenched middle east escalated. We in fact helped create the tiny jihadist mindset through the we'll studied effects correlating US military bases with the same and through our covert (at the time) mobilization of a jihadi ethos in the proxy war of Afghanistan. Here he opens with references to a broken discourse and our inability to agree upon basic facts but can't even pause for a breathe after lamenting censorship to begin asserting that there is a binary (simplistic garbage) and that his facts are the correct ones and the knuckled riggers of the flyover states and the Muslim world are ignorant rubes to q one. Its Straussian elitism at its finest while enticing we listeners to feel smarter as he artfully reasserts the same lamentably binary frameworks that he cut his teeth on. Covid? Not worth exploring how lost he has been since day one. Vocally, assertively lost. Public health and the need for trust (despite he and Rich agreeing it has been tarnished for at least some amount of legitimate absurdities) which if you listen closely, is an appeal to shut down your faculties and trust experts. This is either an elitist and dim view of human capacity to reason or a fear based assumption that the masses are idiots. Either way, its illogical drivel that needs to ignore the failures and transparent corruption of leadership in society by a disproportionately influential segment of the same that numbers in the thousands for all practical purposes. I won't recount his madcap utterances the past few years, and I do sense that he is crawling towards something less overconfident and strident, but he simply can't seem to see the forest yet from his elitist perch in the trees. Its sad because i still find myself very interested in the segment you mention. I've listened to a fair amount of Sam's meditative material and his depictions of his dabblings with psilocybin. There and hear depth and equanimity. When he speaks about world events it all goes out the window and he's oblivious. Calling for earnest dialog e while subtly asserting that Hamas are the only unhinged bad actors in that context is willfully ignorant and absurd when you account for the role of Israel and her allies in literally dropping up Hamas openly in the formative years to serve their own aims. When Sam stops suggesting that the devout of one religion have overcome a fear of death in mqsse, suggesting they are essentially no longer human and he starts weaving in the possibility that much of the geopolitical landscape contains the frankenstein creations large and small of the west after millions dead through murky conflicts their of our choosing, i will gladly reengage and listen for the wisdom i hear in his personal/quasi spiritual content. But in these broader contexts, i find him to be a profoundly self deluded ideologue doggedly defending an elitist worldview and failing to adjust it in real time to events giving it the extremely ironic basis of what looks very mom like Faith that present secular, neoliberal elites who' power and machiavellian use of the same continue to outpace any wisdom or efficacy they may still represent broadly. Godspeed Sam.
Sam Harris is a gift to us all. His eloquence and clarity in conveying ideas is remarkable. His Waking Up app is truly magical, you almost instantly learn to cut the half life of all your negative thoughts and perceptions. Great interview RR!
The clarity and cognizance with which Sam Harris speaks on these topics is what draws me in, because I generally share his viewpoints on many things, but haven't done the level of intellectual rigor (perhaps not wired to either), where I can express these topics in such an eloquent way. Rich shares the same ability, which is why he's such a top tier podcaster. Always thorough and succinct.
People will think that anyone who speaks with clarity, is articulate, and once in a while throws in a word they haven't heard of, it must mean that the content of what they are saying is true. Unfortunately, this is not the case for Sam.
Rich, you have my utmost respect for uploading this fascinating interview with Sam. I'm afraid many people are too attached to their narratives and will cover their ears, but you've done a lot of good for the sake of truth and honest discourse. As someone who lives in a warzone, I appreciate this tremendously and can confirm what he's saying. Ignore the snowflaky unsubscribers; the truth-seekers and the deep-thinkers will thank you for this, as do I 🙏
I noticed negative comments too. Their minds are obviously closed, didnt read the book and have no idea what they are parroting. They dont know how to have discourse 😂
@@thomaswipf7986 99.9999999999% of the time, if you simply ask said closed minds to provide, well anything, that supports their view of Sam, they'll either choose not to respond or assert they need not support their assertions, heh
What is a Sam Harris? He isn't the point, nor is anyone else. Read "Closing of the American Mind" and maybe you'll understand. It's the why not the what....why do you believe what you believe?
“Are too attached to their narratives” Yes both sides are. Each has numerous puppets that spit out lies on a daily basis - Tucker, Maddow, Lemon, Hannity, Dyson etc etc
How can one best describe Sam Harris? His eloquence, compelling command of language, and critical thought process are gifts to anyone looking for truth and meaning in life. Such a pleasure listening to your conversation with him, Rich. Thank you!
I like a lot of his thoughts. I’m only 45min in and he trashes Trump and the right. But nothing about any issues on the left. When discussing US politics you would think he would level some amount of criticism on the other party as well. Too bad. I don’t like either side. But what I hate more is people who think one side is more holy than the other. Too bad.
Same man, which is why its so wild to me to go to some comment sections and people are just calling him the weirdest stuff, acting as if he is stupid or something; it's so fascinating to be on the same planet and seemingly experience such starkly different realities.
@@FoulBundywhen you get big or known enough there will undoubtedly be people that MUST do this - the problem is they pretty much do not know why or could barely substantiate it. This is the issue with contrarianism WITHOUT the actual study of the concept. And countering just for the sake for countering, no pragmatic functionality or value at all…
@@JackSchitt-p9t I do believe it… instead of saying nothing how about you actually try to prove a point? Or do you actually just have nothing to say?? If you have nothing to say then I recommend shutting the fuck up 👍
When he was on "Triggernontery" with Eric Weinstein (who I have far more respect for, except on this issue)... They both make all kinds of excuses for Israel acting the way it does. They even denied that there's an occupation. Not sure how anyone can come to that conclusion
@@MattAngiono You and I are arriving at this comment section from different points of view. I don't see Israel's actions as genocidal and therefore defense of those actions wouldn't qualify as genocidal rhetoric in my eyes.
Okay, now I love Rich Roll too! What is it about people who Sam chooses to spend his time with? I do tend to like them! Rational, debatable, mostly sane conversations with much learning to gain!!
Sam so often has to address the same facile arguments over and over again. It was a joy to see an interviewer who could take Sam's thoughts to the next level.
@@brianmeen2158 it’s because they truly love thinking and talking about them. Sam’s mentioned this before, he hasn’t had a single day of work since he decided to converge his life passions and his “job”.
@@cinemar Think about that for a moment. Do you actually believe that he has one way of thinking on every single topic except the two that you disagree with him on?
Every 6 months or so a 2 hour plus interview of Sam comes along, and I always save it for later. I know I'm about to get a refreshing shower of coherence and inspiration. I have many disagreements with Sam on ideas, all of which are dwarfed by his incredible contributions to spiritual clarity. He's a hero of mine.
I have to say this is the best podcast with Sam Harris I have ever heard. Mostly the talk of his spirituality and how it came about. He’s only just dabbled in it, but he really explained it a greater detail. Such detail I could actually understand it for once.❤
Social media has caused everyone to think that they are experts in every conceivable topic. Hence, if you don’t agree with the majority or whatnot, that you don’t support them and want to suppress them. You can agree to disagree with people and know it’s not all bad intentions.
Everyone wants to be famous and rich. No one cares about truth since it won't enrich them. As a matter of fact any change that gets you 'likes' is ok since you only wish to get paid.
I love Harris. Have been reading his work since college over a decade or so now. I’ve always admired him and frankly am jealous I’m not this brave or smart❤.
I agree. He sounds particularly level headed. He tends to lose his patience which I understand but it’s easy to tell he’s in a good, perhaps more stoic place right now. I love it. Gives me faith in the world 😅
You can always count on Sam Harris to calmly, and logically dismantly fallacious and absurd claims and then extrapolate on the implications it has on us a society. Best conversation yet.
Dangg!!!! Rich you have been on streak!!!! Empowering our minds back to back with all these amazing guest & their own unique perspectives!!!! You are definitely leveling it up!!!! Loyal listener to the content you gift us consistently & eloquently!!!! I’m learning full circle & tapping into my own limited beliefs that have been ingrained since I was child!!!! Ommggg love this podcast episode 🙏🔥🔥!!!!
15:28 Our institutions have repeatedly and consitently proven that they are corrupt and not what's best for most people. They might do what's best for a very few people (hint: the ruling class) under the guise of general welfare but examples of this -- the general good that is -- are vanishingly rare.
The channel's description clearly states that RR is exploring the human potential across a spectrum -- mind, body, and spirit. Sam is an influential reasonable figure in at least two of these areas. Thanks for bringing Sam.
“A Hopeful Way Forward” would’ve been a perfect title for this episode. (We all already know, very unfortunately, what’s wrong with our world.) Sam’s voice is a critical one in the landscape of superfluous noise in the digital space; so grateful for the both of you.
I disagree with the assessment of people who object to the genocide in Gaza. We can feel that Hamas is evil and still feel that Netanyahu is doing great evil in his response.
Only if you buy into the misinformation about what's going on in Gaza. Because genocide is not happening, and yes it's clear in what side evil resides. Netanyahu is not doing great evil, he's waging war after being attacked. Had he waged evil, this war would have been over in 2 weeks, because there would then truly be just endless indiscriminent bombing in Gaza like people such as yourself believe are happening now, rather than a house to house ground troop war for the most part, that has Israeli soldiers killed and wounded on a daily basis where that would not happen if Netanyahu just didn't care about civilian lives and bombed the Xhit out of Gaza to prevent Israeli soldiers from being killed and finish this war in no time. The fact that he does not do that and people like you still claim he does is the real tragedy and misconception of this current conflict. Get your facts straight.
I’m an Israeli, and for what it’s worth, i love Sam Harris and his view of how dangerous religion and dogma are to humanity. I’m so happy he gets to voice his opinions on this podcast. This is so important for Rich Roll’s viewers to hear.
Let's also ditch the "Jewish" part of every law in Israel and get rid of apartheid, and maybe your country can make it to the end of the century. I have nothing against your people, so long as they stop treating others like animals
coming from a lousy youtube interview with elon musk(the supposed genius), I had to adjust to the structured/compressed/highly sensitive way of speaking/thinking Sam Harris naturally has..what a relief...
A very interesting discussion. Thank you. I’m interested in the assessment of what is happening in Gaza but feel disappointed in the lack of recognition of the huge loss of life over there, particularly on the Palestinian side.
This was one of your best episodes Rich! I enjoyed the conversation and the fact it lasted for such a long time. I appreciate both of you and Sam is absolutely one of the greatest.
As someone who does not consume politically driven media and does not have take sides, I’m confused why Rich’s guest brings every point he makes back to a political agenda. He’s very well spoken and competent, and his delivery is highly refined, but his message lacks authenticity and appears to be driven by an external motivation. The behavior he exudes is inconsistent with natural conversation. He is so sure to close every thought with a politically driven objective statement, and clearly favors one side. I’ve listened to the entire podcast because you can learn just as much if not more from people you don’t agree with, but subjectively, this guy uses every point he makes to take a political stance. I do not like the personal and/ or external factors that detracted from the podcast. Whether you’re a fan of his guest, or dislike him, all should give honest thought to why every point gets brought back to making a political argument. I don’t find this man very trust worthy.
@@keatts23 I would advise you to read his books. I’m quite sure he’s full of compassion for the civilian population of Gaza but he sees a bigger picture. Hamas knew exactly what would happen to them after their attack. It’s tragic beyond belief. 😰
Hitchen's commented many years ago that having TWO messianic cults wanting the same space will not likely end well or peacefully. Both sides insist that god is only on their side. Current troubles seem in large part to me to be a result of the Balfour declaration in 1926? I have listened since Golda Mier and Edward Said days to both sides but there seems to be no statesmen today from either side working toward sharing the same space and living in peace so we continue to have death, hatred and war. Thanks much for having Sam Harris on Rich.
This is a lazy reduction of reality. It's not as simple as one religion vs. another. Only one "cult" keeps staring those wars. And flying planes into buildings, or suicide bombing shopping markets, and glorifying the historic and present perpetrators, while publicly preaching hate.
You're oversimplifying. This is not a my-god vs. your-god scenario. If you want to know who the bad guys are, ask yourself which side actually needs weapons to stay alive, and which side could bring peace by dropping their weapons today.
I’ve been following Sam for years and I use his Waking Up app daily. No surprises in the content here specifically but it was great to hear you two vibe so well. Thank you 🙏 Edit - the “mummy mummy is that you” pilot scenario made me lol
While I agree with Sam on many topics. I am baffled that what he says and sees as Hamas support isn't the issue. Nobody supports Hama! Where is the support for the pawns in the conflict, the Palestinians? These people are held hostage by Hamas and the targets of Isreal and Hamas....it's tragic
I can relate. Lost some family during Covid along with getting older and all the psychological baggage that brings… crashed hard. That’s WITH an amazing family in tow. The negative emotions were still there. I started reading all about meditation, Buddhism etc. Haven’t looked back. Feel the best I have in years. The mind is everything.
16:46 Sam, bro, this is a silly analogy. The pilots have as much to lose as everyone else so they are highly incentivized to do the right/best things. This is not the case with our institutions, not even a little bit.
Wow I was thinking the same thing as he said this. I agree with most of his beliefs, but his deference to modern government institutions is not one of them.
What an island of sanity, and expert communication this show demonstrated. Made me an instant subscriber. Thank you, and thumbs up. As an avid Alan Watts fan for over 50 years, I was delighted to see I'm far from alone.
I’ve supported Sam financially through subscriptions for over 15 years and never regretted it. He’s a voice of reason in troubled times and has the courage of his convictions.
Keep it radically and thoroughly simple. Self-awareness reveals thoughts arise without a thinker. Continuing self-awareness realises itself as the consciousness that contains all things, simply because there is no thinker, so there is no world external, nothing outside you. The emergent properties of this realisation are love, bliss, and wisdom. All that is left to do is to maintain self-awareness, acting in complete freedom.
I feel like Sam is speaking my thoughts here. I know this is boring but I agree with almost everything he says here. Thank goodness for him. He's a one-off.
I experimented quite a bit w drugs back in my 20s, and NOTHING came even close to how great MDMA was. It was just the most amazing experience, every time I took it. I was always with friends, and everyone was just so free to express themselves without any thought of how it would be perceived. People telling each other how much they loved each other and how much they meant to each other. It just makes you feel so good physically and mentally. The predominant feeling that I and others I knew that took it was LOVE. They used to use MDMA in couple's therapy, because of how open and expressive people are under its influence, so couples can hash out years of problems quickly. People finally tell each other how they really feel about each other, without any fear of rejection or awkwardness.. Raves were full of people on MDMA back in the 90s, and everyone was so cool and friendly, and open with each other. Even strangers would say things that you normally don't hear from even your closest loved ones lol. Made many friends on ecstasy, and they are some of my fondest memories of my 20s.
I like sam, but the big piece he doesn't seem to ever factor into his arguements are the economic realities of young people and poor people. Young people and poor people are much more apt to cynicism and rejection of popular narratives because it is obvious to them these institutions are have become economically corrupted. A college Education is student debt slavery. Healthcare is medical debt slavery. Jobs are wage slavery. Owning or renting a home is land slavery. The Food causes diabetes and cancer. The drug companies are in bed with the insurance companies. And on and on. So my point is, it comes off that sam only crafts his arguements to appeal to subset of educated affluent white americans to whom are still insulated from the above economic realities. If you are poor then the calculus for cynicism and believing grifters becomes exponentially easier because you know just thinking you are a `good person` or not doesn't put food on the table. But, I imagine Sam can't confront this as a reality, because he knows he was born to wealth and likely shares the same upper class notions that poor people don't matter and investing in free public goods like education and healthcare for them is a betrayal of conservative ideals. Let them eat cake Sam!
The irony is that the concept of institutions being utterly economically corrupted is itself a popular narrative that is uncritically adopted by predominantly young people. There's a reason most people grow out of these beliefs and it's not just that one earns money; it's that these systems ultimately work relatively well most of the time, for most people, in spite of their corruption. One comes to realise that there is actually no viable alternative to compromised systems, and that true progress is to tweak the set of compromises for the better. And I saw this as one such poor young(ish) wage slave myself. A lot of my young comrades and compatriots can reel off all the way in which they are enslaved by the system but none of them can explain how a better future emerges from tearing it all down.
I kind of enjoy listening to Sam, but I've heard all of this stuff before from him. The real star here is Rich Roll. Rich really shows off his chops by being able to keep pace with Sam in terms of knowledge, eloquence, clarity and balance. Thank you RR!!!!
I've never listened to a full talk by Sam Harris, because his style of speaking although well thought out, seems dry to me. What ideas or thoughts of Sam Harris do you do find most important?
I am not on the left and not an atheist and I find Sam to be one the best mindfulness communicators there is. I could listen to him for countless hours. Great teacher! As for Rich: he is new to me, but he seems like a really good interviewer.
There is an answer/solution to the question of what is consciousness. Two epistemological 'puzzle pieces' in the solution are 1) thought is physically made of forces flowing through neural structures that include loops, comparitors, and differencing, and 2) existence is always and exactly now (the duration of every Now is zero). This is why when being in states of flow, the sense of time disappears. After experiencing this, and with practice, one can step into this state by simply choosing to BE. The causal continuum that is the universe is just running. Enjoy the ride.
Honestly when you listen to Sam, HOW can you honestly deny his logic? Just because he/we cannot present an as compelling belief system does not mean the current religions are any more believable
I would argue with Sam that there would absolutely be plenty of people lining up to do all sorts of horrendous things to robots which appear human in every way. All the mind ever needs to defend its actions and reinforce its beliefs is a good justifier. In this case, the intellectual understanding that these "people" are simply highly advanced machines would serve as an excellent justifier, which would allow them to act against their own conscience without consciously experiencing the pain of it. It's a scary notion, but all too probable. Better for everyone if we just never go there as a species. 💜
I agonize with the IDF killing thousands of children. At what point is the mission accomplished? It is not so clear as SAM wants to make it, at least to me.
Balance that thought with the knowledge that the overwhelming majority of Palestinians celebrate the human sacrifice of themselves. So much so that keeping hostages is a higher priority. Hamas is in total control of their dead.
You “agonize” so much that you can’t be bothered to actually read reputable sources as to what is really going on? You prefer to digest terrorist propaganda? The IDF is NOT killing thousands of children - but people like you who brainlessly spread Hamas lies absolutely guarantees that they’ll ensure even more innocents die, because Western virtue signallers will loudly pretend to care and thus further demonise Israel. Think. Please think. Can you do that? Or is showboating about how “agonized” you are more important?
@@mickeylanaThe “strategy” is to eliminate a psychopathic death cult that murders Jews and impoverishes it’s own citizenry by employing every possible safeguard against killing innocents, even while the terrorists deliberately put them in harms way to provoke Western virtue signallers. The IDF have achieved the smallest number of civilian deaths vs combatants in human history - and you’re “enraged”? Your fury is fuelled by your ignorance which would be cured by reading a bit more.
@@honestlyforreal6304yeah that’s fucked up but we should leave them alone to evolve out of that themselves. Jews moving in to their territory is asking for trouble. Either scorched earth or leave them alone. Those are the 2 options.
This is a great piece of media. I honestly will have to watch this again and write up all the pieces of wisdom, Mr. Roll brilliantly extracted from Sam
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Tell your guest that he his boring like hell.
It would be a good thing to have a TV program to discuss the lies that these people tell. Their acolytes may not watch it but it would be good to call them out. It may annoy them and that would be a good thing.
@@rollyknevels3570I thought the protestors were supporting the Palestines not Hamas. What is the proof they were supporting Hamas?
@@jacklondon999I would be more interested if S. Harris was more evenhanded and cautioned the Israeli PM not to overreach or listen to the orthodox in Israel. Maybe now that the orthodox have to serve in the army they will be less militant. Evenhandedness wins support; one-sidedness does not. Stay off Christianity; the Church was tasked with keeping the Dark Occult out of the mainstream on the ascent from The Dark Age to the Age of Reason. Harris is clueless about this so until he educates himself, he shouldn’t comment on it. The Cartoonists were stupid; is it the business of the free press to mock anyone’s religion or belief? With all the problems in the world they should find something better to do.
This is the most I ever heard Sam discuss his own spiritual searching and the personal suffering that brought him there. You gave Sam a lot of space to expand upon themes. Great super rich conversation!
Generous to call it a conversation =)
@@Jay-ft3xh Thanks. I always aspire to being generous.
Spiritual searching? He's an atheist. Maybe Buddhist thought?
Sams a know it all prick
I made it 37 min in and bailed but stopped here before leaving and will at min find the portion you reference.
Sam is brilliant enough to sound so even when he is pounding sand with his own biases, rationalizations and invocation of sweeping generalizations that, to be correct, would require a level of intimate knowledge of the hearts of billions of people to be founded on anything but what is essentially an elitist and one liberal worldview that is stuck in the best moments and the apex of utility of the new atheist moment.
Even then, he was willing to ignore the depth of history and the layers of obvious resource and geopolitical primacy that underlie the whole Jihad vs McWorld thesis (the foundation of the post soviet reboot of empire/western centric status quo). Jihad was an obscure, irrelevant relic until our heavy handed post OPEC machinations in the oil drenched middle east escalated. We in fact helped create the tiny jihadist mindset through the we'll studied effects correlating US military bases with the same and through our covert (at the time) mobilization of a jihadi ethos in the proxy war of Afghanistan.
Here he opens with references to a broken discourse and our inability to agree upon basic facts but can't even pause for a breathe after lamenting censorship to begin asserting that there is a binary (simplistic garbage) and that his facts are the correct ones and the knuckled riggers of the flyover states and the Muslim world are ignorant rubes to q one.
Its Straussian elitism at its finest while enticing we listeners to feel smarter as he artfully reasserts the same lamentably binary frameworks that he cut his teeth on.
Covid? Not worth exploring how lost he has been since day one. Vocally, assertively lost.
Public health and the need for trust (despite he and Rich agreeing it has been tarnished for at least some amount of legitimate absurdities) which if you listen closely, is an appeal to shut down your faculties and trust experts. This is either an elitist and dim view of human capacity to reason or a fear based assumption that the masses are idiots. Either way, its illogical drivel that needs to ignore the failures and transparent corruption of leadership in society by a disproportionately influential segment of the same that numbers in the thousands for all practical purposes.
I won't recount his madcap utterances the past few years, and I do sense that he is crawling towards something less overconfident and strident, but he simply can't seem to see the forest yet from his elitist perch in the trees.
Its sad because i still find myself very interested in the segment you mention. I've listened to a fair amount of Sam's meditative material and his depictions of his dabblings with psilocybin. There and hear depth and equanimity. When he speaks about world events it all goes out the window and he's oblivious. Calling for earnest dialog e while subtly asserting that Hamas are the only unhinged bad actors in that context is willfully ignorant and absurd when you account for the role of Israel and her allies in literally dropping up Hamas openly in the formative years to serve their own aims.
When Sam stops suggesting that the devout of one religion have overcome a fear of death in mqsse, suggesting they are essentially no longer human and he starts weaving in the possibility that much of the geopolitical landscape contains the frankenstein creations large and small of the west after millions dead through murky conflicts their of our choosing, i will gladly reengage and listen for the wisdom i hear in his personal/quasi spiritual content. But in these broader contexts, i find him to be a profoundly self deluded ideologue doggedly defending an elitist worldview and failing to adjust it in real time to events giving it the extremely ironic basis of what looks very mom like Faith that present secular, neoliberal elites who' power and machiavellian use of the same continue to outpace any wisdom or efficacy they may still represent broadly.
Godspeed Sam.
Sam Harris is a gift to us all. His eloquence and clarity in conveying ideas is remarkable.
His Waking Up app is truly magical, you almost instantly learn to cut the half life of all your negative thoughts and perceptions.
Great interview RR!
SO, WHAT IS Truth.
We will never trust any institutions again.
Trump really broke this man.
What a pleasure it is to see two people whose bodies of work have impacted me so positively. Thank you, Rich!
The clarity and cognizance with which Sam Harris speaks on these topics is what draws me in, because I generally share his viewpoints on many things, but haven't done the level of intellectual rigor (perhaps not wired to either), where I can express these topics in such an eloquent way.
Rich shares the same ability, which is why he's such a top tier podcaster. Always thorough and succinct.
i feel the same way. i’m so fascinated the way he articulates himself and frankly envious that i can’t do the same 🤣
Same here...same here
@@CominDownCandy You need some Buddhism for that envy :D
Would you vote for these guys on a presidential ticket?
People will think that anyone who speaks with clarity, is articulate, and once in a while throws in a word they haven't heard of, it must mean that the content of what they are saying is true. Unfortunately, this is not the case for Sam.
Rich, you have my utmost respect for uploading this fascinating interview with Sam. I'm afraid many people are too attached to their narratives and will cover their ears, but you've done a lot of good for the sake of truth and honest discourse. As someone who lives in a warzone, I appreciate this tremendously and can confirm what he's saying. Ignore the snowflaky unsubscribers; the truth-seekers and the deep-thinkers will thank you for this, as do I 🙏
I noticed negative comments too. Their minds are obviously closed, didnt read the book and have no idea what they are parroting. They dont know how to have discourse 😂
@@thomaswipf7986 99.9999999999% of the time, if you simply ask said closed minds to provide, well anything, that supports their view of Sam, they'll either choose not to respond or assert they need not support their assertions, heh
watch jimmy dore he will tell you about sam harris
What is a Sam Harris? He isn't the point, nor is anyone else. Read "Closing of the American Mind" and maybe you'll understand. It's the why not the what....why do you believe what you believe?
“Are too attached to their narratives”
Yes both sides are. Each has numerous puppets that spit out lies on a daily basis - Tucker, Maddow, Lemon, Hannity, Dyson etc etc
Sam harris has to be one of the most influencial and articulate person out there. Always inspired by the way he thinks and articulates his thoughts.
How can one best describe Sam Harris? His eloquence, compelling command of language, and critical thought process are gifts to anyone looking for truth and meaning in life. Such a pleasure listening to your conversation with him, Rich. Thank you!
A let down. That's how I describe him from now on.
He is the clearest thinker that I know of.
I like a lot of his thoughts. I’m only 45min in and he trashes Trump and the right. But nothing about any issues on the left. When discussing US politics you would think he would level some amount of criticism on the other party as well. Too bad. I don’t like either side. But what I hate more is people who think one side is more holy than the other. Too bad.
@@chadadkins900 He constantly criticizes the Left. Check out his podcast.
A racist!
Sanity. Thanks for having Sam on Rich.
Sam Harris is my guru. I have been listening to him for the last ten years and his insights have profoundly influenced my life
Agreed.
Same man, which is why its so wild to me to go to some comment sections and people are just calling him the weirdest stuff, acting as if he is stupid or something; it's so fascinating to be on the same planet and seemingly experience such starkly different realities.
save yourself while you can
Same here. His wisdom and mindset pulled me out of a deep depression and I’m forever grateful.
@@FoulBundywhen you get big or known enough there will undoubtedly be people that MUST do this - the problem is they pretty much do not know why or could barely substantiate it. This is the issue with contrarianism WITHOUT the actual study of the concept. And countering just for the sake for countering, no pragmatic functionality or value at all…
It’s so refreshing to listen to two people who are rooted in reality
Imagine believing that.
When it comes to Trump, Sam is not in reality.
@@JackSchitt-p9t ok explain…
@@Seekthetruth3000 explain then
@@JackSchitt-p9t I do believe it… instead of saying nothing how about you actually try to prove a point? Or do you actually just have nothing to say?? If you have nothing to say then I recommend shutting the fuck up 👍
This may be my favorite guest you’ve had. Thanks Rich.
I listen when Sam Harris is talking .
Not me after he called me idiot for not getting kill shit
"MoMmY mOmMy is that you?!" 😂 ✈️
lmaoo
😂
Sam needs to do standup lmao
lol
Shit was genius 😂🤣😂🤣😂
Sam has been one of the most lucid thinkers on the planet 🌎. Thanks for having him on Rich.
Lucid on his g3nocidal rhetoric as well?
@MattAngiono can you please specifically cite the articles or pod episodes which left you with the impression that Sam puts out genocidal rhetoric?
When he was on "Triggernontery" with Eric Weinstein (who I have far more respect for, except on this issue)...
They both make all kinds of excuses for Israel acting the way it does.
They even denied that there's an occupation.
Not sure how anyone can come to that conclusion
@@GoogleIsRuiningEverything like your name by the way...
Google pisses me off constantly
@@MattAngiono You and I are arriving at this comment section from different points of view. I don't see Israel's actions as genocidal and therefore defense of those actions wouldn't qualify as genocidal rhetoric in my eyes.
Okay, now I love Rich Roll too! What is it about people who Sam chooses to spend his time with? I do tend to like them! Rational, debatable, mostly sane conversations with much learning to gain!!
Sam so often has to address the same facile arguments over and over again. It was a joy to see an interviewer who could take Sam's thoughts to the next level.
Amazes me that these folks can talk about these issues over and over and over
@@brianmeen2158 it’s because they truly love thinking and talking about them. Sam’s mentioned this before, he hasn’t had a single day of work since he decided to converge his life passions and his “job”.
Sam has the rare ability to hit current issues with a jarring dose of common sense
I agree, but not with covid and Trump.
He's a dumb intellectual.
@@cinemar Think about that for a moment. Do you actually believe that he has one way of thinking on every single topic except the two that you disagree with him on?
yeah, if you think voting for 'biden and friends' again, is the best bet. theres nothing to even talk about here
The best.
All Set to dive deep into your conversation with SAM HARRIS, thank you RICH for very RICH PODCAST’S on regular basis 👍❤
Best guest ever, please have Sam back soon
Sam Harris is one of my favorite minds on the planet. This episode was fantastic. Thank you so much for this incredible conversation!
Sam is a great human being and thinker, thanks for having him
a racist?
I respect Sam Harris. Well done for having him on Rich. Certainly beats listening to Gisele talk about how it's all about hard work and no luck!
Lol! So true.
Yes, exactly. Thank you 😅. So damn true
@@mizzounycI found Giselle to be very grounded and humble considering... you just hate her because you can't have her
@@jessee7334 Given the fact I'm a heterosexual female your "brilliant" analysis is a little bit off. Lol!
@@jessee7334If Tom Brady of all people couldn’t have her, then no man can
Rich, please try and do round two soon. We love Sam’s work and energy and you are the perfect extractor of his wisdom.
Loved it. Sam is a joy to listen to.
Every 6 months or so a 2 hour plus interview of Sam comes along, and I always save it for later. I know I'm about to get a refreshing shower of coherence and inspiration. I have many disagreements with Sam on ideas, all of which are dwarfed by his incredible contributions to spiritual clarity. He's a hero of mine.
I like how Rich listens. It's very sincere, and unlike many podcast hosts who just want to join in or lead.
I have to say this is the best podcast with Sam Harris I have ever heard. Mostly the talk of his spirituality and how it came about. He’s only just dabbled in it, but he really explained it a greater detail. Such detail I could actually understand it for once.❤
Social media has caused everyone to think that they are experts in every conceivable topic. Hence, if you don’t agree with the majority or whatnot, that you don’t support them and want to suppress them.
You can agree to disagree with people and know it’s not all bad intentions.
Everyone wants to be famous and rich. No one cares about truth since it won't enrich them. As a matter of fact any change that gets you 'likes' is ok since you only wish to get paid.
@@deanf7061 Yep! Thanks capitalism! Profits over People!
Sam Harris 100% of the time: 🤨
Cursed to always smell what the Rock is cooking.
That must mean you’re jabbed, no heart or cancer problems yet?
😂
finally someone said it 😂love Sam
I love Harris. Have been reading his work since college over a decade or so now. I’ve always admired him and frankly am jealous I’m not this brave or smart❤.
Do not put yourself down. When it comes to Trump, his critical thinking shuts down.
This podcast is a master-class in effective articulation of complex concepts and commentary. Very insightful Rich and Sam.
Ohh Sam Harris . . . Queuing this one up for the drive to work tomorrow here in Oz.
FACTS
Is it a 3h drive? haha (hopefully not and you'll listen to it in chunks)
@@CianBrennan It's one hour each way so I'll be listening in slices.
This is some of the best of Sam Harris.
I agree. He sounds particularly level headed. He tends to lose his patience which I understand but it’s easy to tell he’s in a good, perhaps more stoic place right now. I love it. Gives me faith in the world 😅
You had me at Sam Harris x Rich Roll 🤩
Rich is the best at letting his guests speak uninterrupted
When people are speaking untruths, they should be interrupted.
Sam needs to be interrupted, and called out on his bullshit.
@@SaviorMoney-777ok, so tell me whose books should i read , and please dont say the Christian bible
@@jtflores4681 Books? You think something is valid because it's in a book?
@@SaviorMoney-777 oh you are right, it should be a tiktok video instead. Thanks for your remarkable insights
Sam Harris is a sane voice and I admire his courage ❤.I’ve been waiting for this conversation
Sam’s ability to use the right words to explain complex ideas is impressive.
This is the show I’ve been waiting for. Thanks RR - can’t wait to watch.
You can always count on Sam Harris to calmly, and logically dismantly fallacious and absurd claims and then extrapolate on the implications it has on us a society. Best conversation yet.
Dangg!!!! Rich you have been on streak!!!! Empowering our minds back to back with all these amazing guest & their own unique perspectives!!!! You are definitely leveling it up!!!! Loyal listener to the content you gift us consistently & eloquently!!!! I’m learning full circle & tapping into my own limited beliefs that have been ingrained since I was child!!!! Ommggg love this podcast episode 🙏🔥🔥!!!!
15:28 Our institutions have repeatedly and consitently proven that they are corrupt and not what's best for most people. They might do what's best for a very few people (hint: the ruling class) under the guise of general welfare but examples of this -- the general good that is -- are vanishingly rare.
The channel's description clearly states that RR is exploring the human potential across a spectrum -- mind, body, and spirit. Sam is an influential reasonable figure in at least two of these areas. Thanks for bringing Sam.
“A Hopeful Way Forward” would’ve been a perfect title for this episode. (We all already know, very unfortunately, what’s wrong with our world.) Sam’s voice is a critical one in the landscape of superfluous noise in the digital space; so grateful for the both of you.
Hope you noticed the title change!
The way Sam Harris speaks is an art form. He strings together seemingly different concepts through analogy so flawlessly. 🤌🏻
Yeah a little better than camela
This is becoming my favorite pod❤
Sam is a valuable and refreshing beacon of clear thinking in a confused world. Thanks for this discussion
Thank you so much for letting him speak. 🙏
I disagree with the assessment of people who object to the genocide in Gaza. We can feel that Hamas is evil and still feel that Netanyahu is doing great evil in his response.
and yet only protest at one side... you are only objecting to one party, not the other
What genocide? The IDF is the most moral military force in the world. Hamas started the war and then complains about the consequences of that war!
Only if you buy into the misinformation about what's going on in Gaza. Because genocide is not happening, and yes it's clear in what side evil resides. Netanyahu is not doing great evil, he's waging war after being attacked. Had he waged evil, this war would have been over in 2 weeks, because there would then truly be just endless indiscriminent bombing in Gaza like people such as yourself believe are happening now, rather than a house to house ground troop war for the most part, that has Israeli soldiers killed and wounded on a daily basis where that would not happen if Netanyahu just didn't care about civilian lives and bombed the Xhit out of Gaza to prevent Israeli soldiers from being killed and finish this war in no time. The fact that he does not do that and people like you still claim he does is the real tragedy and misconception of this current conflict. Get your facts straight.
@shukimonster Look into the mirror and repeat. You're welcome.
@@Seekthetruth3000 Sad you are, "Yoda said." 😂
I’m an Israeli, and for what it’s worth, i love Sam Harris and his view of how dangerous religion and dogma are to humanity. I’m so happy he gets to voice his opinions on this podcast. This is so important for Rich Roll’s viewers to hear.
Of course you love Mr Harris as an Israeli, because he's willing to look past the g3nocide your country is pursuing with glee
I'll add that my country, is enabling that...
But I have nothing good to say about the people who deny what's happening.
Let's also ditch the "Jewish" part of every law in Israel and get rid of apartheid, and maybe your country can make it to the end of the century.
I have nothing against your people, so long as they stop treating others like animals
coming from a lousy youtube interview with elon musk(the supposed genius), I had to adjust to the structured/compressed/highly sensitive way of speaking/thinking Sam Harris naturally has..what a relief...
A very interesting discussion. Thank you. I’m interested in the assessment of what is happening in Gaza but feel disappointed in the lack of recognition of the huge loss of life over there, particularly on the Palestinian side.
Sam is a top notch thinker with reason and rational thinking paramount. Always love to hear from him.
Thank you Sam, very cool!
41:10 "If you choose not to decide, you still have made a choice!" Rock on, Sam ~
This was one of your best episodes Rich! I enjoyed the conversation and the fact it lasted for such a long time. I appreciate both of you and Sam is absolutely one of the greatest.
As someone who does not consume politically driven media and does not have take sides, I’m confused why Rich’s guest brings every point he makes back to a political agenda. He’s very well spoken and competent, and his delivery is highly refined, but his message lacks authenticity and appears to be driven by an external motivation.
The behavior he exudes is inconsistent with natural conversation. He is so sure to close every thought with a politically driven objective statement, and clearly favors one side.
I’ve listened to the entire podcast because you can learn just as much if not more from people you don’t agree with, but subjectively, this guy uses every point he makes to take a political stance.
I do not like the personal and/ or external factors that detracted from the podcast. Whether you’re a fan of his guest, or dislike him, all should give honest thought to why every point gets brought back to making a political argument.
I don’t find this man very trust worthy.
You must of missed a lot of the show if that’s all you got from it.
I agree I have a bad feeling about him.
@@keatts23 I would advise you to read his books. I’m quite sure he’s full of compassion for the civilian population of Gaza but he sees a bigger picture. Hamas knew exactly what would happen to them after their attack. It’s tragic beyond belief. 😰
Almost everything is political in some way. Good luck trying to dodge that.
Why did this conversation have to end?! 😩 Loved every word! ❤️
Hitchen's commented many years ago that having TWO messianic cults wanting the same space will not likely end well or peacefully. Both sides insist that god is only on their side. Current troubles seem in large part to me to be a result of the Balfour declaration in 1926? I have listened since Golda Mier and Edward Said days to both sides but there seems to be no statesmen today from either side working toward sharing the same space and living in peace so we continue to have death, hatred and war. Thanks much for having Sam Harris on Rich.
This is a lazy reduction of reality. It's not as simple as one religion vs. another.
Only one "cult" keeps staring those wars. And flying planes into buildings, or suicide bombing shopping markets, and glorifying the historic and present perpetrators, while publicly preaching hate.
You're oversimplifying. This is not a my-god vs. your-god scenario.
If you want to know who the bad guys are, ask yourself which side actually needs weapons to stay alive, and which side could bring peace by dropping their weapons today.
I’ve been following Sam for years and I use his Waking Up app daily. No surprises in the content here specifically but it was great to hear you two vibe so well. Thank you 🙏
Edit - the “mummy mummy is that you” pilot scenario made me lol
This podcast highlights the subject matter that I've loved to hear Sam elaborate on over the years.
Just what I needed this Monday morning ♥️♥️ Thank you Sam and Rich.
Both of you have helped me so much these last few months.
I cannot thank you enough for doing the heavy lifting in sense making Mr. Harris
While I agree with Sam on many topics. I am baffled that what he says and sees as Hamas support isn't the issue. Nobody supports Hama! Where is the support for the pawns in the conflict, the Palestinians? These people are held hostage by Hamas and the targets of Isreal and Hamas....it's tragic
I agree, Kate.
I really appreciate the way Rich approached this interview and I loved the details that Sam went into about the experience of non-dual awareness. 👌
Thank you, guys. Happiness is a state of mind, not a state of affairs. Let's be happy! 😀😀😀
One of the best interviews with Sam. Criminally underrated.
Thank you Rich
Yuck, yuck and more Yuck: Sam Harris. Why Rich, why?
@@rphardy1924 why yuck? FIrst time I see Harris, whats wrong with his views?
@@hyperadapted most likely it’s a woke samaritan passing by
Thank you Sam, you keep me sane right now ❤
I can relate. Lost some family during Covid along with getting older and all the psychological baggage that brings… crashed hard. That’s WITH an amazing family in tow. The negative emotions were still there. I started reading all about meditation, Buddhism etc. Haven’t looked back. Feel the best I have in years. The mind is everything.
16:46 Sam, bro, this is a silly analogy. The pilots have as much to lose as everyone else so they are highly incentivized to do the right/best things. This is not the case with our institutions, not even a little bit.
Wow I was thinking the same thing as he said this. I agree with most of his beliefs, but his deference to modern government institutions is not one of them.
Rich maxed out his vocabulary in that intro
What an island of sanity, and expert communication this show demonstrated. Made me an instant subscriber. Thank you, and thumbs up.
As an avid Alan Watts fan for over 50 years, I was delighted to see I'm far from alone.
I’ve supported Sam financially through subscriptions for over 15 years and never regretted it. He’s a voice of reason in troubled times and has the courage of his convictions.
Keep it radically and thoroughly simple. Self-awareness reveals thoughts arise without a thinker. Continuing self-awareness realises itself as the consciousness that contains all things, simply because there is no thinker, so there is no world external, nothing outside you. The emergent properties of this realisation are love, bliss, and wisdom. All that is left to do is to maintain self-awareness, acting in complete freedom.
I feel like Sam is speaking my thoughts here. I know this is boring but I agree with almost everything he says here. Thank goodness for him. He's a one-off.
That was epic. I’m very familiar with Sam and adding him to your podcast was awesome. Thank you.
Excited for round 2! These topics are all close to my heart!
Only thoughts create suffering..nothing 'really happens' but this moment..your 'entire life' being only a moment.
Amazing how many people still like sam harris
Amaaaaazzzzzing
that's what i'm saying! you have to remember, most of these people were on the same side as him, that's why!
enthralling convo. thanks gentlemen!
My two favorites. Bless you both. Om shanti.
I experimented quite a bit w drugs back in my 20s, and NOTHING came even close to how great MDMA was. It was just the most amazing experience, every time I took it. I was always with friends, and everyone was just so free to express themselves without any thought of how it would be perceived. People telling each other how much they loved each other and how much they meant to each other.
It just makes you feel so good physically and mentally. The predominant feeling that I and others I knew that took it was LOVE.
They used to use MDMA in couple's therapy, because of how open and expressive people are under its influence, so couples can hash out years of problems quickly. People finally tell each other how they really feel about each other, without any fear of rejection or awkwardness..
Raves were full of people on MDMA back in the 90s, and everyone was so cool and friendly, and open with each other. Even strangers would say things that you normally don't hear from even your closest loved ones lol. Made many friends on ecstasy, and they are some of my fondest memories of my 20s.
I like sam, but the big piece he doesn't seem to ever factor into his arguements are the economic realities of young people and poor people. Young people and poor people are much more apt to cynicism and rejection of popular narratives because it is obvious to them these institutions are have become economically corrupted. A college Education is student debt slavery. Healthcare is medical debt slavery. Jobs are wage slavery. Owning or renting a home is land slavery. The Food causes diabetes and cancer. The drug companies are in bed with the insurance companies. And on and on. So my point is, it comes off that sam only crafts his arguements to appeal to subset of educated affluent white americans to whom are still insulated from the above economic realities. If you are poor then the calculus for cynicism and believing grifters becomes exponentially easier because you know just thinking you are a `good person` or not doesn't put food on the table. But, I imagine Sam can't confront this as a reality, because he knows he was born to wealth and likely shares the same upper class notions that poor people don't matter and investing in free public goods like education and healthcare for them is a betrayal of conservative ideals. Let them eat cake Sam!
The irony is that the concept of institutions being utterly economically corrupted is itself a popular narrative that is uncritically adopted by predominantly young people. There's a reason most people grow out of these beliefs and it's not just that one earns money; it's that these systems ultimately work relatively well most of the time, for most people, in spite of their corruption. One comes to realise that there is actually no viable alternative to compromised systems, and that true progress is to tweak the set of compromises for the better. And I saw this as one such poor young(ish) wage slave myself. A lot of my young comrades and compatriots can reel off all the way in which they are enslaved by the system but none of them can explain how a better future emerges from tearing it all down.
I kind of enjoy listening to Sam, but I've heard all of this stuff before from him. The real star here is Rich Roll. Rich really shows off his chops by being able to keep pace with Sam in terms of knowledge, eloquence, clarity and balance. Thank you RR!!!!
I've never listened to a full talk by Sam Harris, because his style of speaking although well thought out, seems dry to me. What ideas or thoughts of Sam Harris do you do find most important?
'entangled with mind without the awareness of it. The full arrival of the present moment. Beautifully said. The conversation I need. Peace
Thank you both gentlemen, as an RN who was broken by the pandemic, I really needed that.
I can’t imagine.
This was a great conversation. I am looking forward to Sam being back on, hopefully very soon!
Best description of non-duality ever!
I am not on the left and not an atheist and I find Sam to be one the best mindfulness communicators there is. I could listen to him for countless hours. Great teacher! As for Rich: he is new to me, but he seems like a really good interviewer.
Cool guy. Great interview. Thanks Rich❤
Now this is a crossover I never would have imagined when I read Sam´s and Rich´s books each years apart, great stuff! Thank you for having Sam on!
There is an answer/solution to the question of what is consciousness. Two epistemological 'puzzle pieces' in the solution are 1) thought is physically made of forces flowing through neural structures that include loops, comparitors, and differencing, and 2) existence is always and exactly now (the duration of every Now is zero). This is why when being in states of flow, the sense of time disappears. After experiencing this, and with practice, one can step into this state by simply choosing to BE. The causal continuum that is the universe is just running. Enjoy the ride.
I dig this comment.
Happy to see Sam Harris talk. Wish the click bait would be dialed back though. Can RR's social media team please take a chill pill
Honestly when you listen to Sam, HOW can you honestly deny his logic? Just because he/we cannot present an as compelling belief system does not mean the current religions are any more believable
my favorite podcast for many years. Thank you Rich!
Why
I would argue with Sam that there would absolutely be plenty of people lining up to do all sorts of horrendous things to robots which appear human in every way. All the mind ever needs to defend its actions and reinforce its beliefs is a good justifier. In this case, the intellectual understanding that these "people" are simply highly advanced machines would serve as an excellent justifier, which would allow them to act against their own conscience without consciously experiencing the pain of it. It's a scary notion, but all too probable. Better for everyone if we just never go there as a species. 💜
I agonize with the IDF killing thousands of children. At what point is the mission accomplished? It is not so clear as SAM wants to make it, at least to me.
Perfectly said. What is the strategy? Was there ever one? It's not wrong to question that or be enraged about it.
Balance that thought with the knowledge that the overwhelming majority of Palestinians celebrate the human sacrifice of themselves. So much so that keeping hostages is a higher priority. Hamas is in total control of their dead.
You “agonize” so much that you can’t be bothered to actually read reputable sources as to what is really going on? You prefer to digest terrorist propaganda? The IDF is NOT killing thousands of children - but people like you who brainlessly spread Hamas lies absolutely guarantees that they’ll ensure even more innocents die, because Western virtue signallers will loudly pretend to care and thus further demonise Israel. Think. Please think. Can you do that? Or is showboating about how “agonized” you are more important?
@@mickeylanaThe “strategy” is to eliminate a psychopathic death cult that murders Jews and impoverishes it’s own citizenry by employing every possible safeguard against killing innocents, even while the terrorists deliberately put them in harms way to provoke Western virtue signallers. The IDF have achieved the smallest number of civilian deaths vs combatants in human history - and you’re “enraged”? Your fury is fuelled by your ignorance which would be cured by reading a bit more.
@@honestlyforreal6304yeah that’s fucked up but we should leave them alone to evolve out of that themselves. Jews moving in to their territory is asking for trouble.
Either scorched earth or leave them alone. Those are the 2 options.
This is a great piece of media. I honestly will have to watch this again and write up all the pieces of wisdom, Mr. Roll brilliantly extracted from Sam
Noticing the thought, and detaching one self from that thought, love this skill, over time all thoughts and emotions can be fun to notice 😂
This is probably the best podcast I've ever seen with Sam Harris. Bravo!