Why the US has a Navy Base in a country that HATES them
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Guantanamo Bay (also known as Gitmo or GTMO) is one of the best known US Navy bases worldwide, located in South-Eastern Cuba, near the Cuban city of Guantánamo. While it achieved its infamy due its the detention and prison facilities, it is also the focal point of a decades-old dispute between the United States and Cuba which has been raging since 1959.
The origins of this dispute can be traced back to the early 1900s, when the US and Cuba signed several agreements, which allowed the US to lease the Cuban territory of Guantanamo Bay for constructing a naval station. But after the Cuban Revolution in 1959, the new Cuban leadership under Castro demanded that the US leaves the area - which the US refused. In this video, we are taking a closer look at this issue: How did the US get Guantanamo Bay? Why is the lease agreement so controversial? And what is the deal with the rent that the US continues to pay to Cuba, despite Cuba refusing to accept it?
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Timestamps:
0:00 Introduction
2:27 History
7:57 Guantanamo Bay conflict today
10:17 Why does Cuba refuse the US' rent payments?
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Sources:
Agreement Between the United States and Cuba for the Lease of Lands for Coaling and Naval stations; February 23, 1903.
Lease to the United States by the Government of Cuba of Certain Areas of Land and Water for Naval or Coaling Stations in Guantanamo and Bahia Honda; July 2, 1903.
Treaty Between the United States of America and Cuba; May 29, 1934.
Ada Ferrer (2021) Cuba: An American History. Sribner.
Jonathan M. Hansen (2011) Guantánamo: An American History. Hill and Wang.
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How is this 1 day ago when this just got posted, are you from Ohio or Wyoming
@@IndonesiaMajapahitNDPCA @China Chicken Soup I don't release the videos immediately when I upload them. First, my Channel Members and Patrons get to see them, then later it goes public.
@@PoliticswithPaint oh
@@PoliticswithPaint you know japan attacked manchuria china 1931 after they blew up their own train.just like usa blew up their own ship to attack cuba
my great uncle designed gitmo post 9-11 Taliban detention facility. head architect. he said it was alot nicer than most Americans living conditions wise.
Water boarding at Guantanamo Bay sounds like a lot of fun, if you don’t know what either of those things are.
Season passes for the beach water amusement park with ya pals, intelligent and agency. Radical brahhh.
I can hear that TV ad lol
Nice copy paste.
I'd rather Gasoline Board them, and then send them to Allah while they do a Johnny Storm from the Fantastic 4 "Impression".
I’ve always wandered what that would be like. I’d need a saftety button or word or they’d know to stop after a short while
I'd love to sign a lease agreement with my landlord that says the only way I get evicted, is if I leave, or we mutually agree to terminate the lease. That seems like a fair and balanced contract between equal parties.
Haha!
sure but countries are not equal so unequal agreements arise.
I feel like a more accurate metaphor is if someone forcibly pays you to stay in your apartment and will only leave if he voluntarily does so
That seems pretty good deal seeing as though currently it’s more like if I want, I’ll just kick you out
Why? Sounds exactly like the communist ideology that Cuba operates under which you seem to support anyway 😂 Land ownership is prohibited 😂😂
"We will only leave if we want to, which will probably never happen."
"Hey, this isn't perpetual, we clearly said we'll leave if we want to."
If I was Cuba I'd set up the largest speakers ever aimed at their direction & turn them on. I'd also blow smoke in their direction
@@GAZAMAN93X they’d just get jdam’d
@@GAZAMAN93X Maybe they should worry about feeding their citizens first.
It goes the other way though. America literally cannot leave if the Cubans don't want them to, which - considering Cuba's political situation in the decades after the agreement was signed - isn't as crazy as it sounds.
@@GAZAMAN93X That’ll just make America use or make a new EMP machine or device probably
US: "It's not about the money, it's about sending a message"
Elon musk before buying twitter
It's about hypocrisy that they inherited from their Dad.
@@rainbowbloom575 Elon bad
@@jirachi-wishmaker9242 Cough cough governments be like
@@BeeEmpress Nah, just another habitual lying, egotistical dude who has money.
I love your approach to clothes on Polandballs, gives them a lot of personality, as well as a historical context, since it's in this case about countries with very unchanging flags. In any case great video :)
They had always hoped castro was stupid enough to try and take it back by force. This woulda been a perfect justification to retake cuba
That's assuming that the US public would go along with an invasion of Cuba. The US public appetite for war limits how much the US can exert its power. Consider it wasn't the Tet offensive that caused the US to leave Vietnam, it was domestic US opposition to the war
@@ThePurplePassage none of that is relevant. When attacked first the public is easily swayed and has never failed to go along with it. Along with the fact a full invasion of cuba by the U.S would be a relatively quick occupation and setup of puppet government.
@@UnholyWrath3277 "When attacked first the public is easily swayed..." In other words, you are calling my argument irrelevant by assuming a priori that the problem I raised has already been solved and a sufficiently convincing casus belli to motivate the US public to support the war has been found.
@@ThePurplePassage read the original comment. That assumption was in the original point. Trying to sound super smart here isnt really working for you
@@UnholyWrath3277 So you consider that a Cuban attack on Guantánamo (whether successful or not) would engender a sufficiently negative reaction amongst the US public to warrant an invasion of Cuba. Maybe.
Give the imperialist overtones, the increased war weariness of the US public post-Aghanistan and Iraq and the controversial detentions at Gitmo, I am not quite so sure that a full invasion would be quite as well-supported amongst the US public as your comments suggest you believe
Good video, but I wish you'd covered WHY US turned Gitmo into a prison/detention centre (it's because their own laws against mistreating prisoners would only apply to locations on US soil)
That only applies to US citizens which none of the prisoners are people who come to the u.s. for you know living
@@cartrellsplunge1525 From a former commander of gitmo: "One of the principal advantages to placing the detainees in Guantanamo Bay or a similar location was the legal status that non-U.S. soil provided. If the detainees weren’t in the U.S., then they wouldn’t have the same rights under American laws, the argument went. Some of these included the right to legal representation, rights of prisoners, and rights to the American legal system. One government official referred to the base as the "legal equivalent of outer space." To the Bush administration, this was an immense advantage in the consideration of long-term detention."
We learn something new every day :)
(Sorry UA-cam didn't let me post the link, but if you search for this quote it should take you to the Atlantic source.)
@@aratasman77 The problem being there are a lot of terrorists in Gitmo that would be impossible to try and convict in a US court of law because evidence against them was either illegally obtained, inadmissible in court, or classified.
Of course, a lot of innocent people also ended up there. Most were afghanis turned in by other afghanis on shaky grounds and did get released after a few years. Some though, did not for whatever reason. Maybe just too embarrassing to admit we'd locked up innocent people.
@@pax6833 Hey buddy, I think you've got half-of-the-way there. US has prosecuted terrorists before and convicted them in the courts. The issue is that US puts people in gitmo to shield itself from adhering to internationally recognized rights of detainees (for example not torturing minors, go read the case for Omar Khadr) while they're deciding what should be done about them. US does convict some in gitmo, and does release some.
The broader issue is what I think you alluded to, other people's lives mean so little to US that they rather spend millions to keep them in a legal limbo than to admit wrongdoing. Just imagine YOU yourself, at no fault of your own, were put in that situation. I don't think this injustice is in any shape or form defensible.
@@aratasman77 But that doesn't make any sense because according to the own agreement the base it's still under Cuban sovereignty, which means that their basic laws still apply on it despite being a foreign military installation. The US is violating those laws on purpose.
It was sought by the US Navy as a coaling station which coal-fired navies around the world were always looking for. Once ships switched to oil, it's strategic importance became questionable.
Having a Navy base close to the mouth of the Gulf drastically helps with mainland security. However with Puerto Rico further East than Cuba, Cuba is literally surrounded by US and US ally territory. I seriously don't see any US enemy being able to send any troops/supplies there without US knowledge/permission. Just my two cents.
It's a f * colony... For things like that the non-Americans. We believe that the US is very hypocritical to be outraged by the invasion of Russia when there are colonies like this in the world
The US though has made it it's mission to crush any popular uprisings in South-America that were opposed to it. Cuba is the one that got away and that wound to their pride is still something they can't get over.
I also have some doubts Cuba will accept the deal, they will want to use it to also get the sanctions liften as they know almost everyone that isn't 100% dependent on the US also wants them lifted.
@@Jay_Franklol Cuban missiles crisis
@@firasajoury7813 That was 60 years ago. I'm talking about the current day. There isn't a true peer to the US anymore. (China will be eventually, but not yet) With modern surveillance my original statement holds true.
Fun fact: every single year the UN votes on a resolution to end the unnecessary and frankly inhumane embargo placed on Cuba, and every single year every country supports the resolution. Except Israel and the US
The UN and all members states can vote on whatever they see fit, nobody cares.
I think Obama tried or wanted to do away with thr embargo only to have Trump reinstate it. I doubt Biden would do much considering he has no idea what plant he's on most days of the week.
USA USA
Hey, you can't criticize Israel!
Cuba is a corrupt regime, it deserves all the pain it brings upon itself.
You're wrong about Castro being initially supported by the USSR. They tried to build an alliance with the soviets because they were on the brink of an invasion from the US. They were also looking for trading partners after the embargo imposed by the US.
Loving the simple paint graphics from guys like Politics with Paint and Mr Mitchell History
Cubano here! Thanks to Guantanamo Bay being a thing, a favorite fact of mine about Cuba is that it technically has a Subway and McDonald's because of it! Some things I'd like to clarify: The Cuban Missile Crisis was more than just Soviet missiles in Cuba. The bigger issue was also the US having missiles in NATO member Turkey, which used to border the USSR. The USSR was concerned Cuba would shift towards China, so to get Cuba to remain in the Soviet sphere, Khruschev agreed with Fidel Castro to place missiles on the island.
And some Cuban independence fighters actually WANTED to join the US as a state. That was the original intention of the star on Cuba's flag and why the colors chosen were red, white, and blue, which was designed by Cubans who lived in exile with Puerto Rican revolutionaries in NYC (the Puerto Rican flag was also designed in NYC). Of course nowadays, the star no longer represents that (now it just represents independence and freedom)
That's interesting. I'm wondering how life is in Cuba bcz of the sanctions. I heard that their medicine sector is strong, is this true??
Yeah... and how do you explain that the flag of Chile is exactly the same like the old cuban flag. Im cuban and that last part is no true
@@leonardovichent6616 "exactly" except it's not. The top-left square is bigger on the old Yara flag. Not to mention the square is red. While yeah, the Chilean flag's design inspired the Yara flag, the Chilean flag's colors in turn was inspired by the French and AMERICAN revolutions. The Chilean star represents Venus, while the original symbolism for the CUBAN star was to appeal to the US for statehood.
@@AverytheCubanAmerican I see you in every comments section
yeah there is a name for américans going to live in other countries and trying to encourage US invading and anexing the place they failed in cuba but succeed in other places like texas and hawai
Visited GITMO twice during the early 1970’s for shakedown training after shipyard overhauls. As for restricting commercial shipping, I recall watching a Soviet freighter pass through the bay. Escorted of course.
No restriction on shipping through G Bay, which cuts the navy base in half
@@mwduck More like, that land could be developed to increase and improve shipping. With a base in the middle, Cuba is restricted from turning it into a major economic port.
@@gatlank6080 It is what it is.
@@gatlank6080 Cuba has several ports, they do not need Gtmo to develop into a major economic port, they could do it in other Cuban ports. They are bankrupt and owe money to lots of countries that were stupid enough to loan them money. They use the money for the Cuban oligarchs to enjoy a hell of a lifestyle while they cannot feed their people.
Make it a usa state just to bug cuba
In the Treaty of Paris of 1898, The Philippines and Guam were also involved. However, through deception the Filipinos thought the US was helping them gain independence from Spain only to be dragged into another war with the Americans which lead to eventual colonization by the US for the next 47 years.
pretty much what also happened in Cuba
@@n0ban790 The Spanish American war marks America's entry into the position of an Imperialist Power. It was late on entry but is today the world wide neo liberal Empire.
@@kimobrien. a communist complaining about imperialism 😂 as if it makes a difference whether a king, oligarch, autocrat, or bureaucrat is in charge of an empire
@@liberaltears1714 You've created an Empire and now its coming apart because of the capitalist own short sightedness. You became a ruing class and now you are on your way to demise because you've been believing to many of your own lies. Capital doesn't create anything and neither do markets. Capital is just money and a market is just a place to trade. It is human labor mental and manual that creates. The stock market is just a big gambling casino. You system of finance becomes nothing but a way of privatizing profit and socializing risk. You require a huge bureaucracy to constantly overlook and manage everything down to the penny. You drive everything into the service of profit maximization. You neglect education and healthcare because you seek only to maximize profit by cutting labor time. You demand the speed be increased and more risk of our safety beciase you want bigger profits for yourselves.
@@liberaltears1714 The US Empire is based upon foreign investment playing a return back to the owners in the US. Capitalist greeds most important product is the international industrial working class.
3:28 "It's complicated, we have to skip it." when the USA uses an accident of one of their ships to start a war of aggression is a very USA thing to do.
I cut that part for the sake of time, but the lead-up to the Spanish-American war was quite complicated. In short: The US public was very supportive of the Cuban independence fighters, but the US-government was much more split, as many there wanted to keep good relations with Spain while others wanted the Spanish out. Then there were multiple events between 1895 and 1898 that heavily strained US-Spanish relations on both sides - with the USS Maine being the last event that led to the war. Its a very interesting story - but out of the scope of this video unfortunately.
If I had a nickel for every time we went to war over someone sinking our boats I’d have three nickels which isn’t a lot but it’s weird that it happened three tomes
@@supermagicalcookie2400 Well, there was one time when someone sank US boat, and US did not go to war. USS Liberty.
@@panzerhund8511 Why would the US attack their master?
@@siyacer there are already real reasons not to support Israel, you don’t need conspiracy
So, basically the problem between Cuba and the US is that the US won't leave it alone?
Not really if you pay attention its when Russia/USSR was supporting Castro, That being said a communist Cuba wouldn't be good because then Russia could store nuclear icbms/bombs only miles from US territory
@@KOSYOUNG That issue was solved a long time ago, and with the advent of intercontinental ballistic missiles and nuclear missile capable nuclear subs Russia also no longer has any need to store nukes close to American territory.
@@KOSYOUNG You mean like the US did when they stored nukes in Turkey?
@@KOSYOUNGAmerican trying to justify their evil
Interesting thing is that the justification for war with spain was also very controversial, with the USS Maine supposedly not having been blown up by the Spaniards, like the US said, but by an internal explosion or mine.
I'd like to think the US blew up its own ship as an excuse to maul the Spaniards
I was taught in school it was known as justification due to the ambiguity at the time and was later proved to be not.
Like anyone from that time would be able to investigate a sunken ship like that and find out how it sunk. Claiming they knew the cause then is ridiculous, they probably actually believe Spain sunk it. They might have; I’ve not scene any proof saying otherwise.
And 2 newpapers stirring the pot for public support of the war.... Sounds familar...
@@shonuff5297 LBJ knew it worked before so he just ran with it
Good video over all mate, can't wait to see more from you
There is actually an airspace restrictions as well, and this lead to a plane crash due to the pilot not being able to see the strobe lights. So even though it had good terrain, the means of getting there….. mehhh
I was a refugee at Gitmo and came over in a chartered 707. The plane had to make a very sharp turn right after takeoff to keep within the corridor.
Cuba : "Leave"
United states : "Nah fam we're good here.., oh and uh.., we set up a new fence and a mine-field outside it, mind your step."
In truth, the US minefield was inside the fenceline. Those outside the fence are Cuban. Ours were well-maintained. Weird, but once in a while lightning -- or a random cow -- will set one off.
I noticed you used the eu4 (europa universalis 4) rebellion noise when rebels began, well, rebelling. I thought it was a neat detail!
Triggered my EU4 PTSD😂😂
And the Victoria 2 rebel flags.
i hate it. i cant STAND that sound. every 5 seconds in any horde run. i HATE that sound
I HATE THAT SOUND I HATE THAT SOUND I HATE THAT SOUND I HATE THAT SOUND I HATE THAT SOUND I HATE THAT SOUND I HATE THAT SOUND I HATE THAT SOUND I HATE THAT SOUND I HATE THAT SOUND I HATE THAT SOUND I HATE THAT SOUND I HATE THAT SOUND I HATE THAT SOUND I HATE THAT SOUND I HATE THAT SOUND
Sent here via Kraut's recommendation, def glad I did. Subbed and liked my guy
This was a very good video. There is a lot of room for improvement so I’ll be following you.
I was just reading up on this a couple days ago! Feels weird to just hang on to this territory after all these years.
Why? Once lost it is likely lost indefinitely. US has no reason to let it go.
Cuba needs Gitmo there. It is a little bit of prosperous America on a slip of an economic cesspool. Gitmo provides hundreds (thousands?) of jobs for Cubans. GI's stationed there love the place, at least for a while.
@@0IIIIII Other than respect other countries and human beings & show a sign of U.S can be something good to the world, yeah there isn't
@@0IIIIII the US has no moral weight to lecture russia or china on anything then, especially with the people telling russia to leave crimea,
same logic "no reason to let it go"
@@NeostormXLMAX really wathcing their military power being eroded away seems like a pretty good reason to let crimea go
Two things glaringly wrong. 1. The minefields were removed decades ago. 2. Shipping through the bay to Caimanera and Boqueron was unrestricted by the U.S. With the fall of the Soviet Union, the channel traffic to the north dropped exponentially.
There is still minefields on the Cuban side
Commenting for the algorithm, this was a really well done video ^_^
The two points of the lease is so weird like... both have to agree to end it or the US abandons it are the only ways to terminate the lease.
C = Cuba wants lease to continue if true. A = US wants lease to continue if true. L = Lease persists if true.
P_1 = C ^ A; Both have to be false for point 1 to be False
P_2 = A; Point 2 is false when A is false by the US willfully leaving.
L = P_1 v P_2; Both points stand.
• Cuba wants to continue lease. So does US. Lease persists.
L = (T ^ T) v T => T
• Cuba wants to end it, US doesn't. US remains and lease persists.
L = (F ^ T) v T => T
• Cuba doesn't want to end it. US does. US abandons the base against Cuba's wishes and lease ends because of point 2.
L = (T ^ F) v F => F
• Cuba does want it end. US agrees. Lease ends.
L = (F ^ F) v F => F
L is tautological with A given the above, meaning Cuba's opinion is irrelevant. Is this self evident? Yeah. Did I need to use math to show it? Not really. Does it make the entire dilemma that much more stupid when you can say it's mathematically a bad deal? Yeah.
nice channel enjoyed the video thxs
Another reason for the USA's bizarre policies about Cuba is Florida. Florida has a high amount of Cuban Exiles (Little Havana in Miami). Because of Florida's oversized importance in US political due to it being the 3rd largest state and a valuable swing state due to the electoral college.
Obama tried to thaw relations and in 2016 a pro-embargo Trump won Florida and won it again during 2020
Thawing relations with Communist nations has ALWAYS been controversial in the US. Nixon tried to set up a long term detente with the USSR, China and the Communist Bloc as wider whole in the 70s, but once the controversy and furor over Vietnam died down and a new group of leaders came in, the interest in just letting things lie was abandoned. By the early 80s, the Truman and Eisenhower ideals of containment and eventual liberation of Eastern Europe were officially the top policy again (and after the shootdown of Korean Air 007 in 1983, vast numbers of the public got on board too).
There is also the problem that Cuba does significantly better than the US in several metrics like housing security, job satisfaction and above all healthcare. So having an openly communist country so close to Florida could give the Floridians 'dangerous' ideas.
@@MrMarinus18 it is much more based upon the Cuban diaspora in Florida hating the communist regime due to their homeland being controlled by it
@@MrMarinus18
Except for the fact none of these are true
I could not find anything about job satisfaction other than the article "Urban Cubans Optimistic About Schools, Not About Work" by the Gallup. 68% of urban Cubans are satisfied with their jobs, whereas 83% of urban Latin Americans are satisfied. Less than half believe they can get ahead by working hard, whereas 78% of other Latin Americans do. So no, job satisfaction is not to be praised in Cuba.
There is nothing secure about housing in Cuba other than overcrowding. As the Borgen Project states in its article "Hidden Homelessness in Cuba," "In addition, the inability of modern Cuba to continue building low-cost homes due to these limitations has led to an increased concentration of multifamily residencies despite the desire for younger generations to live separately." The article later goes on to say "An official report stated that 7 out of 10 homes need repair, with 7% of all houses being uninhabitable." As the Reddit post (I know, not a great source, but still a personal experience of someone that I thought would be worth sharing) elaborated, "When I went to Cuba I saw this, and many Cubans I know who have family at home have expressed that it’s great grandparents, grandparents, parents, kids, and grandkids, all living in a 2 bedroom house. It was pretty cramped when I went there. And oftentimes the roofs in the countryside were made from tin scrap metal."
The US on the other hand does not have a large problem with homelessness outside of its most progressive, quasi-socialist areas, like San Francisco and Portland. Even so, it has a homeless rate lower than other developed countries, according to the OECD, including France, UK, Germany, Sweden, Australia, New Zealand, and the Netherlands.
There is nothing good about Cuban healthcare. The point I keep hearing over and over again is Cuba has a low infant mortality rate. But this was true before the communist revolution. Before communism, it had the 13th lowest infant mortality rate in the world. Today, it has the 49th lowest. Communism caused infant mortality to increase. Not only that, but healthcare quality is horrid. The FEE found “Hospitals in the island’s capital are literally falling apart.” Sometimes, patients ”have to bring everything with them, because the hospital provides nothing. Pillows, sheets, medicine: everything.” The CEI's "That Time Obama Promoted Myth of Excellent Health Care and Education in Cuba" states "Cuba in 1957-was a developed country. Cuba in 1957 had lower infant mortality than France, Belgium, West Germany, Israel, Japan, Austria, Italy, Spain, and Portugal. Cuba in 1957 had doctors and nurses: as many doctors and nurses per capita as the Netherlands, and more than Britain or Finland. Cuba in 1957 had as many vehicles per capita as Uruguay, Italy, or Portugal. Cuba in 1957 had 45 TVs per 1000 people-fifth highest in the world …Today? Today the UN puts Cuba’s HDI [Human Development indicators] in the range of … Mexico." And before you say, "aT leASt iT iS bETTer thAn tHe US," with regards to infant mortality, that is false. "Is U.S. Health Care Less Efficient than Other Countries’ Systems?" is a good article on this subject. It notes the fact that the US has a higher rate of low birth weight babies than Europe, and the deaths of fragile babies are counted as infant deaths in the US, but not in Europe. Adjusting for these things, the article notes "Atlas reports several calculations of this type, showing that the U.S. infant mortality, adjusted in this manner, is quite low, comparable to Canada’s, Sweden’s, and Norway’s."
And Florida is one of the best states in the US. No wonder hundreds of thousands of people move there every year for good jobs, low taxes, and personal freedom, whereas California and New York lose hundreds of thousands of people, and have the largest percentage of their populations who would praise Cuba like you do. If you like Cuba so much, move there.
@@person3070Dude what, Florida is becoming a meme state. Infrastructure is literally falling apart
One of my favorite combat flight sim games as a kid was a-10 Cuba where you fly around on combat missions around Guantanamo Bay.
Lol, I did that in real life. VC-10, except we flew the A-4
@@av8rgrip confused! did you fly a vc10 in real life, fly an a4 in sim games and when did you transfer to flying harriers? 🤔🤯😄
@@billynomates920 I was based in GTMO 91-93. Flew A-4s for real. Base defense and adversary mission. I was Navy and never flew harriers. My screen name is short for Aviator Grip. Grip was my callsign.
love every vid
wow this was like... a perfect 13 minute video. GJ
Almost as good as Countryballs Explained.
Just found this channel, love the lectures with polandballs as representation. Keep it up.
Thanks for making this :)
Learned more from your post than what was taught in school. Thank you
you left out that the base is shrinking every year due to having to build inward when the fence line needs to be repaired and it's a central point where counter drug ops are conducted vis coast guard and other government agencies. i was stationed there in the mid-late 90s.
Why can’t the border be demarcated clearly to avert shrinking?
Good. I hope it shrinks entirely
@@0IIIIII There's probably some really messy writing in the treaty that causes shenanigans such as this.
Fun and informative video. Thanks for sharing
I liked his stance. (As an American) It had some well deserved pokes at the US, but not anything to start a war over. = )
gutes Video 🤝🏻
Castro was not initially anti US.That they drove him in to the arms of the USSR is one of the ironies of history. Imagine if that was not the case.
Whoa whoa whoa, the us didn't do shit. He fucked up by trying to spread communism in central America, that was on Castro.
Che would have never allowed that. At that point the Cuban rebels had already drank deep from that Socialist Kool-Aid. The Decision was well out of Castro's hands, simply it was the facts on the ground in Cuba.
All commies during the cold war will eventually be anti-US anyways. Ideology vs ideology, imperialist vs imperialist
Ho Chi Minh was also a lot more praising of the US and capitalism at first, but the ignorant easily-terrorized conservatives who drive America's policies were convinced what Communism was a unified Soviet monolith and invented an Vietnamese enemy that wasn't trying to exist.
He is a communist,
How far if any does the water boundary extend in to the Gulf of Mexico or Atlantic?
The same as with any other littoral state under the UN Convention on the Law of the Sea.
Thanks for the run down, I always wondered why this is a thing.
“2,000 gold coins”, I think, to almost every reasonable person means “2,000 one-ounce coins made of gold”, which as of the time of this comment, would be $3.6 million. Still probably a laughable amount for Cuba, but as an American I think we should at least be paying that much, and probably in actual gold coins as the treaty says we should.
The US has military bases in half of the world countries xD
Most of which hate them or have had a client regime friendly to the US put in place through either war or political meddling.
Some Americans like to keep a gun in every or most rooms in their house, just in case.
Same idea here, we got bases everywhere just in case.
@@CountKibblesNBits just in case what? That has nothing to do with trying to keep your country safe
@@hiufgterde oh it does have everything to do with keeping the country safe. Bases everywhere just in case.
@@CountKibblesNBits american occupants
I enjoyed your video. The time spent espousing the virtues of the sponsor was too loooonnnnngggg.
US news: we have such bad prisons
Russia news: you guys show off your bad things?
i strongly suspect usakistan has many secret torture prisons around the world. they just dont show them.
What a smoothbrain take. Classic nationalist idiocy.
@@rippspeck You okay? Lol it’s not that serious
US has the highest incarcerated population in the world it’s a business
US prisons have to have a full population to receive state or federal funding
So locking up Americans is a business absolute Insanity
That and US uses prisoners as cheap labor which essentially makes US prisons third world prison camps
Because of the color scheme I thought this was the 516th video about Siege of Constantinople
Isnt Green more populer for ottomans?
@@denizmergen418 It’s usually green for Ottomans and Purple for Eastern Roman Empire but it fits to modern colours
Was stationed there in 1972. Had a great time snorkeling, and going on hikes(forced marches,lol) and standing guard duty in towers along the wire/minefields. Semper Fi.
What was the attitude of the citizens towards you?
@@orlagskapten9829 I never met any other than a few Jamaican snack bar workers. Cuban nationals were allowed to come on base and work, but they were background-checked by the US govt. Remember, US military can't leave base.
Do you feel sorry that you occupies part of their land and only pays a couple hundred bucks every month? (Or damn, what a good deal)
Thank you!
They had this base a long time ago since my trip to there was in 1969 when I was in the Navy
To hold Cuba in frames. USA with this base have an access to the island. It can deploy the troops, tanks, military vehicles, artillery guns, helicopters without huge losses.
And why in 2023 It still has It? To atack more easily?
@@brunotedeschi3197 mostly to keep an eye on cuba and venezuela too.
@@brunotedeschi3197 No.
@@brunotedeschi3197 It's a good deepwater training facility for the Atlantic fleet. But more, it's just a thorn in the side of the Cuban government.
@@royals1231 yea the 2 latin American countries that arent under their imperialism
Castro initially sought to align himself with the US. It was when Eisenhower told him to go jump that he then sought out a new friend and became a Soviet ally. The Soviets were actually uninterested in Cuba after Castro came to power
That's because the Soviets were no longer head an outlook of world socialist revolition like the leadership of Lenin and Trotsky did right up to the 6th Congress of the Communist International.
Very true... & that's why the caption in this vid needs to be clarified...!!! Cuba & Cubans don't "HATE" the United States. Even after the communist revolution, the USA was the FIRST country that the Castro regime went to establish diplomatic relations & economic ties. Unfortunately, it was the US that rejected their hand of friendship & that's when Cuba was forced to turn to the then USSR for support...!!! The history of American & Cuban relationship would have been very different if the US didn't "HATE" Cuba.
That’s not true. He was a commie from the start.
What outrageous nonsense. Castro was a secret Communist already.
So trivia about GTMO: highest speed limit? It's on the go-kart track. The rest of the base is has a limit of no more than 25mph/40kph.
I never saw a go-kart track when I was stationed there.
@@mwduck It was over by the MWR and the various playing fields (corner of Sherman Ave and Kittery Beach Road). Looking at Bing Maps, it looks like it's been abandoned for several years now. I was there as a contractor in 2007.
@@nonenowherebye I was stationed there in the 80s. I guess it was built in the 90s.
Political contracts are very interesting especially for a military base this sounds some what similar to Vieques,PR
It's very simple. If you were to design the perfect harbor for warships, you'd design Guantanamo Bay. Now, otherwise, it's a miserable place. We pulled in a few times (once for "liberty", we were NOT happy about that) and it only had a commissary, a bowling alley, and a pizza place. And chickens. For some reason, I recall there being chickens. Hot as hell, and a damned desert. Even before the internment camps it was a prison.
And some considered it the best kept secret in the navy, at least until the detainee camps were built.
@@mwduck - I suppose it would depend on your job. Can't see the pilots not enjoying themselves, but the poor bastard who has to sit in trailers all day pulling the pins on CS grenades for CBRN training? Gotta be tedious, especially since there's jack-all to do when the day is done. And I never met anyone on a ship who was happy about the place. Can't imagine that being your home port.
@@sword_of_light It was great duty back in the day. As soon as work was done, we would head out into the Caribbean with two tanks. I can see the crew of visiting ships being bored. Not a lot of recreational activities during liberty, and nobody could go "out into town."
80’s squid. Visited Club Gitmo on three different occasions, two warship refreshers prior to Med deployments. Hotter than BEEP but you’re forgetting that outdoor movie screen, the softball fields and that formaldehyde beer or whatever it was at the “pizza place.” LOL! Memories like it was yesterday.
Cuba really is a green country in general, but ironically Guantanamo Bay and its surroundings are the only arid area on the island.
What similarity between US Guantanamo bay base and UK Cyprus base?
Cyprus wants it and infact needs it.. Without it turkey would take the whole island.. Uk liberated cyprus from the ottomans along time ago.. One of the ottomans rules for giving it up was it didnt go to greece and the british couldn't permit russia "liberating it" so to avoid this the ottomans gave it to the uk hence the base.. By compasion the us funded a false freedom movement to sabotage spain, bombed its own ship, attacked and attemped to annex the island and was foiled only by european pressure. See the difference here already.. Vicious predator at play... It intentionally cripples cuba using its own bay too. There was need to coal ships in cuba there its very close to us coaling stations.. When europeans blicked the annexation the us defacto annext thisland for some years like the did with haiti and they planned to keep it but to be sure thry took this territory for.. Later use against their victim
Cyprus was given independence if they allowed UK based there
A much better trade when you're made independent
@@tuluppampam cuba is independent today and was so under Batista
Both exist without the occupying powers paying a cent or farthing.
@@johngurlides9157 the UK isn't occupying it, it told Cyprus it would be made independent as long as it gave the UK bases
Cyprus could have remained part of the UK and nobody would have bat an eye today (something along the lines of Gibraltar)
Here is sonething else to throw into the mix. There are two passages form the gulf of Mexico which Cuba sits across, the Florida straight and the Yucatain peninsula Srtight, leaving Cuba as a dagger pointed at New Orlines, and thus able if backed by a hostil power could cot off all shiping at eithger passage out of the Gulf.
The voice in this video sounds like a US Marine with loads of combat experience, a real man and warrior. LOL
10:48 love the sirens in the background
this video can be summarized in a single word:
empire
"I love believing propaganda, it saves me from ever having to do the scariest thing of all: critical thinking."
Chinese bot found. tiananmen square massacre 1989. Ongoing Muslim genocide.
@@georgestark4031
what exactly is your question?
How so?
US deserves to harass and conquer regimes
I have altered the terms of our lease. Pray I do not alter it any further...
Great video!
gut vid
One of my coworkers is a marine who’s deployed there and his biggest problem seems to be the rats he’s feeding still don’t like him
Hey, are you the guy who made THAT countryballs game, dictator no peace?
I was there for 9 months.. it is so weird to look across the fence to see Cuba but cannot go there 😅
World record Holders at squatting,
US government.
It’s illegal to “Loiter” in most “public” places.
Squatting is in someone’s house this seems more like a contract loophole the ones who actually took the most land is UK Russia or Mongolia
@@ChnChn-in5kf okay let’s compare UK, Mongolian and Russian overseas military bases with America
@@mosesgoldbergshekelstien1520 US is democratic and only fights regimes. Regimes deserve to suffer, they are evil
@@mosesgoldbergshekelstien1520 in 1930, Britain would win that competition in a heartbeat
Mistake. When Castro became the leader of Cuba, he flew to the USA, and president Eisenhower refused to speak to him. Castro then boarded a plane for Moscow. Castro was a socialist, not a communist, but he needed support for his leadership. US wouldn't give it so he chose the Soviet Union. Imagine how different things could be today, if the president of the USA hadn't given Castro the middle, one finger salute.
Mind explaining the difference between socialism and communism?
The USA gave him a middle finger? Lol, he spoke with the VP, Nixon. Nixon btw communicated to Eisenhower that while Castro was a moron, he was a charismatic leader that they should try to guide.
But who do you think is the natural ally to a revolutionary leftist? The USA or the USSR? Cuba was always going to align itself with Russia.
Could have done the same thing with Ho Chi Minh.
@@TheOwenMajor castro was not even explicitly a communist in this time period, however. the cuban revolution was a nationalist revolution that adopted a communist ideology much, much later. castro himself consistently denied being a communist or socialist until he eventually became convinced that communism was the best way for cuba to develop, in part because of cuba's relationship with the ussr. when he met with nixon, he still was not a communist or socialist, he was a nationalist. america fumbled the bag.
@@geoffreyherrick298in your own words, please explain what the US could’ve done to convince Ho Chi Minh to become a US ally that the US would accept. Go on
@@wormwood8352you are arrogant speaking on matters you don’t understand. Explain and provide proof that the US could’ve done better with Castro given what they had at the time
Kraut sent me. Good recommendation. 👍
Wow what a interesting video! I wonder what the comments will be like! Hopefully there is order and not chaos
The Gitmo prison era is new. During the cold war this base appeared more like the Korean DMZ or the iron curtain. After Vietnam fell, many of us were used as reinforcements to the Marine security force already on station in Cuba. When Soviet airborne forces and the Cuban army arrived and engaged in maneuvers outside the US wire. Manned by a single battalion of outnumbered US Marines.
Now, please check out these FACTS that are on the Web: "In 250 years of existence as a nation, the US has fought against 29 sovereign countries. (In Fact, since 1785, we have been involved, for 231 years, in some kind of war. And this wars, against all varieties of nations. From going against the Sultan of Morocco, to invading the tiny island of Grenada, 1983. Well, this means that in our entire history, we have only had 17 years of peace, and even fewer, cuz here the almost 5 years of our Civil War (Union/Confed 1861‒1865), are Not counted, since this war was not with another country, but against us. And the wars against the Native Nations of America either are not counted, for the same reason). Anyway: We fought against 29 countries. We have "Grown" 711 the size of our territory from the original 13 colonies. Our Economic, Political and Military development was established thanks to the Piracy, the Slavery, the Massacres, the Opium Trade or Cocaine Traffic, and the Weakness of many abused sovereign nations. We have provoked with total impunity, 12 Genocides and 9 Massacres, ‒inside and outside our own borders‒, and Assassinations of Gov’t. Leaders, Coups d'État and Economic Blockades in 6 UN member nations. Between 1947 and 1989, the US tried to change other nations gov’ts 73 times. It includes 66 covert Ops. And 7 overt ones. In Civil Wars: The US has taken advantage of and intervened without justification in the following Civil Wars: In Marquesas Island. (Massacre. 1813). US Forces seize Nuku Hiva Island (French Polynesia 1813), and establish here «The First US Naval Base», in the Pacific. This historical fact is important, cuz in 1813, the US had NO Territorial Land nor Maritime Rights in the Pacific Ocean, until 1848, when the US seized California and other Mexican territories facing the Pacific. In Haiti. (1813 and 1901 and then 1915-1919-1934-2001). In the Philippines. (1898-1902. Genocide. One Million people dead). In Hawaii. (1889 and 1890-1893 and 1901). In Cuba. (1898 and 1901-1902 and 1906 and 1913 and 1952 and again 1960). In Island Guam and Island Wake (1898-1899 and 1902-1905). In Island of Samoa. (1898-1899). In Puerto Rico. (1898-1902 to 2023 LOL). In Colombia. (1899-1902 and 1948). In Mexico. (1836 and 1847, and 1859-1861 “Cortina Wars”. And 1875 "Las Cuevas War”. And 1886 and 1904 and 1914 and again in 1916-1917 against “Pancho Villa”). In Russia. (1918-1920). In the "Republic Banana Wars" of Central America. (Massacre. 1912-1934). In Dominican Republic. (1916-1924 and 1965-1966). In Honduras. (1903 and 1912 and 1919 and 1924-1925 and again 2009). In Venezuela. (1936 and 1945 and again in 1948). Military Coup in Peru. (1948 and 1967). In China. (1856-1859, and 1899-1901, and 1913 and 1933, and again in 1945-1946-1949). Military assistance to Chinese rebels in Taiwan. (1951-1952). In Korea. (1871 and 1950-1953). In Iran. (1953). Coup against Mohammad Mosaddegh. (Massacre). In Vietnam. (1959-1975. Massacre and Genocide.). In Albania. (1949-1953 and 1955). In Panama. (1856, and 1903, and 1964-1968, and again 1989). In Brazil. (1950 and 1959 and 1964 and again in 2016). Coup and Intervention in Guatemala. (1944, and 1954, and 1966, and again 1982-1985). Coup against Patrice Lumumba and Intervention in Republic of the Congo. (Massacre. 1960- 1961). Coup and subsequent Fascist regime in Greece. (1967). The Hunting for Che Guevara, in Bolivia. (1968). US Military assistance in the Coup in Bolivia (Copper Mining Co. 1971). The “Bombing of Laos”. (1971-1973). Terror in Uruguay. Support for the regime of Juan María Bordaberry. (Genocide. 1973). Support for the regime of Moboth, in Zaire (Genocide. 1974). Attack on Cambodia. (Kampuchea. 1975). Democratic Republic of the Congo “Simba Rebellion”. (Massacre. 1964-1967 and 1975). Entry of US Troops into Nicaragua. (1928-1932 against Augusto Sandino, and 1937 and 1972-1973, and 1983 and again 1995). Coup in Chile against Salvador Allende. (Genocide. 1973-1976). Argentina (1976-1986). Armed conflict between the Saharawi Arab Republic and between Morocco. (1976-2002). Support for the cannibal Jean-Bédel Bokassa, in Central African Republic. (Genocide. 1979). Military assistance to the rebels of Yemen and Oman. (1978-1979). Military assistance in El Salvador, special operations. (Genocide. 1980-1992). Military assistance to Iraq. (1983-1990). We, the US, assistance Saddam Hussein against Iran. (More than half a million deaths in ten years. 1980-1990). Support and funding of the Khmer Rouge. (Genocide 1980). In Angola-Namibia. (Massacre. 1980-1981-1984). In Chad. (1982-1986 and 2007). Coup in Equatorial Guinea. (1994-1997-2007 and 2021). Coup in Peru against Pedro Castillo. (2022-2023). In Bosnia. (1994-1995 and 2006)... In Libya, Djibouti, Mozambique, Zambia, Kenya, Oman, Palestine, Lebanon, Somalia, Sudan, Syria, Eritrea, Jordan, in Kosovo, Iraq, Iran, Yemen, Afghanistan, etc. And… Oh! Yeah: In Ukraine.
nothing says voluntary agreement like forcing you to sign away your land at gunpoint.
Why you shill for Cuba? They are a regime, they don’t deserve sympathy.
@@0IIIIII you do realize that "Regime" just means "the people who run the country" right? also, the land was stolen from Cuba before the revolution and even before batista when Cuba was an objectively democratic country.
The main gate was closed after a bus load of sailors returning from liberty was ambushed! It is amazing howthe people declare the base infamous!
The Spanish American war which gave Cuba its independence gave the base to the US!
The US was very fond of Batista, with no hesitation there. The USSR didn't support cuba for years after the revolution.
On Batista, I think it was more of a lesser of two evils thing AND the US crime lords and business interests wanted him in power. He was after ll the devil who could be bought. As for the USSR, if we had not launched the Bay of Pigs fiasco in '61 and then hit Cuba with the total trade embargo I am not sure that Castro would have turned to the USSR as strongly as he did. There was already a big communist movement in Cuba but the USSR was on the outside until 1961.
Free Guantanamo Bay 🇨🇺
Do you play eu4
Perhaps...
@@PoliticswithPaint as soon as I heard the rebel noise 💀
Please make Southern Patagonian Ice Field border dispute between Chile and Argentina
American Empire love military bases. They have more than 800 around the globe 💣
Of course they do, by protecting their allies and global trade routes. That’s also a factor why their military budget is sky high.
Recommendation can you talk about the Moldovan coup condocted by Russian supported men
Plus the Guantanamo bay payment can't be cashed since it's illegal for Cuba to US dollar or any checks in dollars
On one hand, i agree that we need to leave that place. Its a massive waste of money and resources. And the people along with their government. Dont want us there. The other hand is that it is a solid foot hold. One a politically hostile nation. And making land fall is a lot worse then attacking from a base. It also offers a solid port far from the us coast for other activities. And can prevent undetected craft from approaching from the south much better.
Cuba could sue the US but hasn't done so. While the one-sided treaty probably would be found illegal under international law, a court of law may find it is de facto a cession of territory, not a lease agreement, which wouldn't be in Cuba's interest.
Sure, but the most important thing about court is that the ruling body needs the power to enforce it.
With the Monroe doctrine still in practice (part of said Cuba mess above) any power not from the continent would have to contend with the very real reality America will just laugh in their face at anything they try to enforce from down range and would very willingly go to war over anything they were willing to come over to try and enforce.
Cuba isn't worth the threat of war, no matter how small, and Cuba itself knows that if the body rules in favor of the United States, it could be readily punished even for the attempt.
One sided-perhaps, but fairly entered into. The Cuban govt reaffirmed the lease in the 1930s.
@@mwduck Not really, as the video explained. While the original treaty had been negotiated under military threat, it had at least a fair compensation for a real useful function for the US navy. But the affirmation in the 1930s was so one-sided that it only benefits one side, which could also be a reason to void it legally. The unadjusted payment had become a mere token at this point, and coal wasn't in use anymore, so the wording didn't make sense anymore. At this time USA had a stranglehold over the Cuban sugar export-based economy and American organized crime was buying up large parts of the country.
@@IRmightynoob You may be unaware of it, but countries, even powerful ones like the US, prefer justice and good relations with their neighbors.
There is no such thing as international law. A law must be enforced to be a real law; who enforces "international law"?
US: We support Ukraine and its territorial integrity
Also the US
Hey don't look at me I do want that piece to go back to Cuba.
it's not the same.
the people of palestine(which you didnt mention, but it was implied) and cuba are brown(the cubans are of all colours, but brown seems an average), and thus bad.
the neona-zis of ukraine are white, and thus good.
We leased the base with the consent of a democratically elected government and the lease says we do not need to give it back unless we abandon it or agree to, Russia just straight up invaded Ukraine
@@rexblade504 you invaded and then economically blockaded cuba......dafuq are you talking about? you dont have the moral high ground to criticize ANYONE on their invasions.
@@sabin97 Well we didn't invade Cuba to get Guantanamo Bay we leased it from them and I'm going to guess you're referring to the Bay of Pigs invasion which was actually an invasion by US trained and supplied Cuban dissidents, not the US military. Which is very different. Also we can do whatever we want with our economics there's nothing wrong with that. Cuba had plenty of nations they could enter into commerce with. So I do indeed have the high ground to criticize people on invasions.
I could only imagine it being a hot spot of a powder keg waiting to blow up into a war between the US and Cuba
If you are worried about getting evicted by you're land lord just become the greatest military power lol
Spent eight or ten weeks training there on a destroyer. Six days a week twelve hours a day training.
Sounds like fun
Even though I've never been to Cuba, I've hosted President Miguel Díaz-Canel back in 2018 and he enjoyed Pyongyang very much! My grandpa hosted Che Guevara in 1960, Raúl Castro in 1968, and Fidel in 1986. Cuba even boycotted the 1988 Summer Olympics in Seoul in solidarity! Fidel said about my grandpa, "a veteran and irreproachable combatant, sent us 100,000 AK-47 rifles and its corresponding ammo without charging a cent". And when Fidel passed away in 2016, we had a three-day mourning period in honor of his life. Cuba remains one of our closest allies, and they know what it means to face harsh sanctions and move forward like we do. We hope to see the bay returned to them
the 7 fleet is a marine comamder general mc cathur sea captian admiral
US has over 800+ bases around the world in countries that don't necessarily like them to say the least
Of course they do, by protecting their allies and global trade routes. That’s also a factor why their military budget is sky high.
So i guess cuban sovereignty has a different value than ukranian sovereignty
Cuba is rogue state and a regime, like Russia. The countries are bad and morally inferior to Ukraine or the US
Because we can
You can have your independence as long as we get to keep enough soldiers in your country to take it away again.
... Cuba isn't the only place we pulled that.
US wasnt sure of Castro, but a known CIA contractor was one of the guys who trained him....
1. The Cuban missile crisis was a lot more complex, notably it was the US who first stationed nuclear missiles close to the soviet heartland in turkey
2. Equating Castro and batista entirely with the only differentiating factor between them being the power who supports this is very dishonest. Batista allowed American tobacco, sugar and fruit companies to strap the Cubans of their land, large parts of rural Cuba were in deep poverty. Castro on the other hand, while being very harsh on pro-batistans, introduced some of the most successful literacy, vaccination and public housing programs in human history, leading to cubas HDI being comparable to that of a first world nation. You may call him a dictator, but he is nothing like batista in almost any way.
Bro, you ain't seen a cuban sugar plantation in the 70s if you're typing stuff like that. Castro was another powerful aristocrat in the long line of powerful aristocrats who exploited Cuba at the expense of its people.
@@BoliceOccifer Castro also created some of the best doctors known world wide, who at times even beat the USA's brand of healthcare, so much so it's a major export for Cuba. Say you want the fact that people can even get that level of training is astounding.
@@BoliceOcciferExploited Cuba? Dude, the country has free healthcare and education paid for by the state, and I'd reckon the nation is pretty damn safe. And unlike most communist states, Cuba allows freedom of expression and assembly as well as freedom of religion and limited freedom of speech.
@@BoliceOccifer Castro was one of the first to give away his own land to to actually share it
He made Cuba into a proper communist country that suffers from bad rep due to the terrible stupid USA
@@BoliceOccifer castro was a hero of the people and any actual cuban that isnt a gusano would agree. castro made cuba infinitely more free than it was under america and batista's thumb
End the illegal embargo condemned by over 99% of nations 🇨🇺
Stfu Cuba doesn’t even have internet or a functioning government yet 😂
Freedom for Cuba from American imperialism.
No we won’t, We won’t stop till that Regime is 6 feet under
Nobody cares
Literally
Source me that 99%
(You can't because its pulled out of your ass
End the Cuban dictatorship and we'll talk
compared to what would happen to US soldiers and citizens if they went to a prison in some country they were at war with, gitmo seems like summer camp
Spent a week there back in the early 80s. Big lizards on the rocks down by the shore. Ferry connects both sides of the base.
Because you keep your friends close and your enemies CLOSER.
lol.... its funny how its ok when we do it
That's because the US can get away with it. China and Russia don't have a _Monroe_ _Doctrine,_ and can't project regional dominance like the US.