What If Germany Was Defeatist In 1939 - Hoi4 MP In A Nutshell

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  • @SerPinkKnight
    @SerPinkKnight 6 місяців тому +1789

    Intro: The only good bit was Spain
    Bo: Is Spain
    The modest snake of Denmark

    • @SaucyJack97
      @SaucyJack97 6 місяців тому +31

      Of where? Never heard of that place

    • @SerPinkKnight
      @SerPinkKnight 6 місяців тому +128

      @@SaucyJack97 it's one of the seven kingdoms of westeros

    • @raven-dq6ox
      @raven-dq6ox 6 місяців тому +13

      He does this often tbf

    • @zeux5583
      @zeux5583 6 місяців тому +17

      ​@@raven-dq6ox Yea cuz hes a SNAKE

    • @Renault07
      @Renault07 6 місяців тому +6

      "It seems my superiority has led to some controversy"

  • @liladoodle
    @liladoodle 6 місяців тому +1403

    Germany: *Everythings keeps going wrong, begins acting as a defeatist.*
    The Allies: "I don't know, I didn't think I'd get this far".

    • @Iron_Blood_Enjoyer1933
      @Iron_Blood_Enjoyer1933 6 місяців тому +58

      Meanwhile, Italy pulling a 'Mad Jack' Churchill: "Alright, who's next!?".

  • @Official_Kezzie
    @Official_Kezzie 6 місяців тому +1782

    “I’ll just hold the east. I don’t mind dying to the Allies.”
    Didn’t know this guy was a passionate LARPer

    • @THEBUBBLEBASSBOY2025
      @THEBUBBLEBASSBOY2025 6 місяців тому +36

      Lol that line killed me

    • @HDreamer
      @HDreamer 6 місяців тому +146

      It's Seemops, he's german so might be genetic.

    • @Sana_a04
      @Sana_a04 6 місяців тому +33

      He's even got Himmler as leader

    • @SkepCakes
      @SkepCakes 6 місяців тому +17

      He got that Karl Donitz DNA

  • @joebloggs7514
    @joebloggs7514 6 місяців тому +900

    Explains and deploys a spain strategy that is damn near idiot proof whilst marshalling the whole team which is akin to herding cats. Somehow fails to kill France by 41, seems legitimate.

    • @Supercohboy
      @Supercohboy 6 місяців тому +180

      Imagine having to play as Germany and Spain at the same time duing early-game, while also serving as a secondhand advisor to every other European Axis member on the team.
      Even if he'd finished doing what needed to be done to get the Spanish Civil War under control prior to it starting, he still had to PLAY Germany at a competitive level against the Alliesbros during that and afterwards, AKA he was pulling double-duty. Any time I've ever attempted competitive-whatever and someone had to handhold somebody else, that's usually when things start to fall apart, you can't think 2 thoughts at the same time/play 2 characters at once and be at 100%.
      Nonetheless, big L in the chat for the Germany guest. He tried, but then his morale totally caved when he should have kept playing to win against a team that was likely to make at least a couple of costly blunders.
      Also, I can't tell if Golden was being especially crappy this match or if the edits just make it look that way, but wow, bro still shit-talks after playing a god-awful Japan. During a match when somebody was willing to be patient and keep the Spanish Civil War from exploding again. I'd hate to play with this guy.

    • @Astral_Alchemist
      @Astral_Alchemist 6 місяців тому +124

      @@Supercohboy Golden and Braun are the most consistently toxic players, Braun especially makes some of the videos unwatchable with his incessant whining. Swimmy makes absolutely terrible decisions really often but ends up creating hilarious content, and doesn't try to blame others or getting super salty about it. That's a lot more fun to watch than someone just having a meltdown and going "You suck, you suck" and screeching autistically at the team.

    • @caleb972
      @caleb972 6 місяців тому +31

      @@Astral_Alchemist Jesus, that Warno vid from a few weeks ago where Braun was one of the Comintern players was legit hard to watch. Just constantly shit-talking Cheese, his own teammate, because they weren't doing as well as they wanted, but then the stats showed Cheese was actually carrying the team lmao. I felt sorry for Cheese. I'd hate to be on Braun's team.

    • @hugo7946
      @hugo7946 5 місяців тому

      ​@@Supercohboy funny, for me it's the German player i wouldn't want to play with

  • @Mumbos_Trusted_Advisor
    @Mumbos_Trusted_Advisor 6 місяців тому +1957

    What if Hitler and Chamberlain swapped minds in 1938?

    • @ThemoonsFullofgoons-qn9xl
      @ThemoonsFullofgoons-qn9xl 6 місяців тому +10

      Makes no sense sorry bro better luck next time 😂

    • @Mumbos_Trusted_Advisor
      @Mumbos_Trusted_Advisor 6 місяців тому +155

      @@ThemoonsFullofgoons-qn9xl It kinda does mirror the allies bro. Extensive Interwar Plans, stalled offensive in the Rhine, not really getting anywhere until 1943.

    • @ThemoonsFullofgoons-qn9xl
      @ThemoonsFullofgoons-qn9xl 6 місяців тому +2

      @@Mumbos_Trusted_Advisor ​​⁠I was thinking along the lines is allies appeased the axis didn’t the axis did have extensive plans but they went out the window quick I can kinda see your point on the Rhine and in 43 that’s where I’m coming from there’s a lot that didn’t hit than things that did hit it would have made sense if it wasn’t chamberlain as he was gone very early into the war

    • @ThemoonsFullofgoons-qn9xl
      @ThemoonsFullofgoons-qn9xl 6 місяців тому

      @@Mumbos_Trusted_Advisor Germany was the one with the plan you saw it at the start how can they be the allies you’re just wrong and all the people liking your comment agreeing with you are wrong too 😂

    • @Nothing-1w3
      @Nothing-1w3 6 місяців тому +6

      ​@ThemoonsFullofgoons-qn9xl it does, better luck next time

  • @Zirtip
    @Zirtip 6 місяців тому +1012

    HOI:
    1939 - no, it's over already
    IRL:
    1945 - no, we still got this, Steiner's going to counter attack

  • @TheArklyte
    @TheArklyte 6 місяців тому +401

    Tbh I felt bad for Germany player in the beginning of the video. Their attitude felt like they've felt like they already threw the game and didn't want to drag enjoyment of other people down with them. Usually german players immediately demand everyone to drop everything and die for them, but here it was like "yeah, everything on fire, but please don't get involved, I don't want you to lose your desert tiles in NA because of me".

    • @b1indmailman
      @b1indmailman 6 місяців тому +166

      Yeah, I feel bad for him also. He sounds like he's experienced and knows the game well but either he had a bad build or the Allies just had a perfect game. I hope he gets a chance to redeem himself.

    • @lemonsisu686
      @lemonsisu686 6 місяців тому +138

      @@b1indmailman Seemops is as far as i have seen a pretty chill guy, he's usually pretty quiet tho

    • @aloha8765
      @aloha8765 6 місяців тому

      seemops is the biggest yapper and shit talker lol. He shit talks basically everyone if you play with him

  • @Paleo-y1y
    @Paleo-y1y 6 місяців тому +190

    The end is like a bunch of gangsters climbing over each other to get the best plea deal from a judge.

  • @Joey_Freshwater
    @Joey_Freshwater 6 місяців тому +374

    Bo: "It's March '40 Germany. Once we hit '41, then we can start worrying."
    *Timeskips to October 1940*
    Bulgaria: "No, this is bad! Go back across the river!"
    *Axis lose 6 tanks*

  • @cpp3221
    @cpp3221 6 місяців тому +434

    I can't believe ICBM was replaced for that.

  • @takeeto9894
    @takeeto9894 6 місяців тому +129

    "It's only 40, if we get to 41 we'll have a problem"
    (immediately jump-cuts to an unchanged frontline in mid-October '40)

  • @germanpanzer38t
    @germanpanzer38t 6 місяців тому +249

    Mappies are here

    • @hti5795
      @hti5795 6 місяців тому +27

      Someone is always happy for Mappies

    • @germanpanzer38t
      @germanpanzer38t 6 місяців тому +9

      @@hti5795 you best believe it!

    • @tricot6468
      @tricot6468 6 місяців тому

      I can’t tell if you mean pedos or ppl who like map games

    • @SafeRemain
      @SafeRemain 6 місяців тому +1

      I'VE WAITED A WEEK FOR MAPPIES AND NOW ITS RUINED

  • @Official_Kezzie
    @Official_Kezzie 6 місяців тому +189

    Also if one only watched the first minute and twenty seconds they’d assume that the Germany player was the best team player of all time.
    Seriously. The underlying command of his voice is overwhelming

    • @hummussapien7.6billion68
      @hummussapien7.6billion68 6 місяців тому +30

      Bro has a mortal flaw

    • @empireofitalypsstimfromano5025
      @empireofitalypsstimfromano5025 6 місяців тому +29

      Spanish Civil War Expert, Elite Commander Of The Spanish Volunteers

    • @tmo_117
      @tmo_117 6 місяців тому +25

      Honestly seemed like he would’ve been a pro, just needs more practice he’s pretty good at giving orders in the most chaotic lobby when it’s a small front lol

    • @Balsiefen
      @Balsiefen 6 місяців тому +5

      @@tmo_117 If this were a larp game he'd be great for Germany: Competent management; understands when he's beaten; Negotiates a favourable peace with the Allies.

    • @fourthknower9831
      @fourthknower9831 6 місяців тому +2

      @@Balsiefen So the complete opposite of the actual Germany in WW2

  • @PalmorPalmito
    @PalmorPalmito 6 місяців тому +91

    At Minute one, he said "Cordoba", a city in southern Spain

  • @ArrangedKarma
    @ArrangedKarma 6 місяців тому +33

    "So in this game, the Axis had a fantastic Spanish Civil War. Thats it"
    Oh boy oh boy, when you read something as ominous as that, you know that this is an episode that requires seatbelts and popcorn.
    Especially when it isnt one of the usual suspects like Swimmy or Golden on Germany lmao

  • @logoncal3001
    @logoncal3001 6 місяців тому +71

    Ive seen live plays of Seemops and yeah, hes very doomer. Which is a sad problem of his, cause hes incredibly good

  • @lukalolleonardo4797
    @lukalolleonardo4797 6 місяців тому +38

    Bo wasn't even a part of the peace deal so he would have goten away with extra land

  • @Ahmet-c9i7h
    @Ahmet-c9i7h 6 місяців тому +86

    I literally had the widest grin ever after I saw “48 seconds ago”

  • @StephenParlow
    @StephenParlow 6 місяців тому +28

    After several episodes of complaining about the incompetency of Spain, Bo takes matters into his own hands...and watches as the rest of the Axis fall on their face. A little self indulgent with script today, hmm?

  • @Spiderfisch
    @Spiderfisch 6 місяців тому +67

    Is he defeatist because he learned that the west has fallen?

  • @patron_only
    @patron_only 6 місяців тому +15

    1:19 if that statement was targeted directly while talking with Flowjoe, Lennard or Dankus, the idiot proof would no longer be idiot proof anymore
    It was so funny! 😂

  • @mhug162
    @mhug162 6 місяців тому +24

    Man if one of these videos actually ended with a conditional peace and Operation Unthinkable, I would coom bricks

  • @andreamarino6010
    @andreamarino6010 6 місяців тому +25

    "I am retaking Marsaille"
    *skip frame*
    *allies outside Barcelona*
    Classic ratkoen moment

  • @rafidog
    @rafidog 6 місяців тому +9

    5:56 that's the German equivalent of the Wilhelm scream

  • @taptiotrevizo9415
    @taptiotrevizo9415 6 місяців тому +18

    Defeatist was the one word you know won't apply to Swimmy and Golden

  • @_Meres
    @_Meres 6 місяців тому +2

    this is the equivalent of mastering chess openings and nothing else

  • @Schaapdatmekkert
    @Schaapdatmekkert 6 місяців тому +39

    EAW nuttshel when ?

  • @LaynaStambaugh
    @LaynaStambaugh 6 місяців тому +2

    Golden talking to Germany about not being a total bitch is like. Verbatim what I was thinking lol

  • @Vadim_Korolev
    @Vadim_Korolev 6 місяців тому +9

    I may be wrong, but wasn't tactic on Spain with 2 provinces and CAS was already been explained before by Bo to some other Spain player? That game plan didn't go well due to Germany's dementia. But why does Bo acting as if this was first time he heard that strat? Is that old footage?

    • @Bokoen1
      @Bokoen1  6 місяців тому +17

      This was the first time I was taught it. Videos aren’t necessarily chronological

  • @tomm9963
    @tomm9963 6 місяців тому +4

    How did we go from Germany being a Pep Guardiola in the Spanish Civil War to Doomer Post almost instantly?

  • @creasedknight6222
    @creasedknight6222 6 місяців тому +2

    This is basically how the allies thought the war would go at the start there

  • @Sam-im5tc
    @Sam-im5tc 6 місяців тому +2

    A failed Axis that didn't feature a Swimmy or Golden Germany? Impossible.

  • @asriellian
    @asriellian 6 місяців тому +4

    Idk man i thought that this script was really good, something new and refreshing!

  • @Holsp
    @Holsp 6 місяців тому +1

    "You can do x, if you have the time." Is way too polite for these scripts.

  • @KonradKawka0000
    @KonradKawka0000 6 місяців тому +4

    damn ratkoen do more meme games it's like super interesting to see some actual geopolitics between players who are "good" at this game:D

  • @DarmanMI
    @DarmanMI 6 місяців тому +3

    The Seamops doomer game. I remember the insanity that was this mess

  • @ryane3703
    @ryane3703 6 місяців тому +2

    German player going full historical larp at the end there

  • @bencurran3204
    @bencurran3204 6 місяців тому +2

    Why wasnt i surprised seemups was being defeatist

  • @nathanpitek3177
    @nathanpitek3177 6 місяців тому +2

    Somehow by the title alone I know Swimmy is on Germany

  • @Speed_Walker
    @Speed_Walker 6 місяців тому +4

    I can't believe we didn't get ICBM.

  • @hydra7427
    @hydra7427 6 місяців тому +1

    Japan with that accent is unexpectedly hilarious.

  • @Forlyn0
    @Forlyn0 2 місяці тому

    Man, that spain was explained so well. Then somehow france was such a fail.

  • @antorseax9492
    @antorseax9492 6 місяців тому +11

    0:56 Germany said Cordoba.

  • @drewbinsky8249
    @drewbinsky8249 6 місяців тому +2

    Classic ratkoen ratting out his allies

  • @Corium1
    @Corium1 6 місяців тому +1

    the alt hist where Italy is the competent one lol

  • @peoplesoft2784
    @peoplesoft2784 6 місяців тому +1

    2:22
    I KNEW IT WAS A GOLDEN JAPAN XDXDXD

  • @AlejandroP123
    @AlejandroP123 6 місяців тому +34

    Where Hoi4 MLP in a nutshell?

  • @megabotvideos
    @megabotvideos 21 годину тому

    imagine seeing how much the allies invested in defending france then your japan tells you theyre doing late war. does golden know hes throwing by doing that or what

  • @advkatten
    @advkatten 6 місяців тому +1

    when was the last time Spain actually worked out for the axis?

  • @gamerz1172
    @gamerz1172 6 місяців тому

    Honestly I love how in these "Everything goes wrong for the axis scripts" Its never Japan dying early, its always japan going late war

    • @ultimatestuff7111
      @ultimatestuff7111 6 місяців тому

      Golden unlike seemops is not defeatist in the slightest, and is very delusional, and often competent

  • @veeliski4792
    @veeliski4792 6 місяців тому +29

    the spanish civil war wasnt a war, just a coup

  • @gengarboi8745
    @gengarboi8745 6 місяців тому

    It was really funny to see the video cut to the French already at the Rhine.

  • @voldosvankino2974
    @voldosvankino2974 6 місяців тому +1

    Intro:The only good was the Spanish Civil War and then the video starts and it’s Bo on the Spanish 🗿

  • @haroldearlgray5629
    @haroldearlgray5629 6 місяців тому +1

    Lord bokoen bring back empire at war

  • @mountain6215
    @mountain6215 6 місяців тому

    This Germany just needs to become the Golden of Spain and become a special advisory to any Spanish civil war

  • @gruger41
    @gruger41 6 місяців тому +1

    Next script: what if Hitler was a sigma male

  • @gojo76
    @gojo76 6 місяців тому +3

    This mod is so Axis bias it’s insane, Packer and BOBG should all show their google chrome history smh (yes, it’s filled with germany bias)

  • @patron_only
    @patron_only 6 місяців тому +1

    8:37 I have never seen a Germany player doing a conditional surrender!
    God what a skill issue sadly : (
    If was funny though not gonna lie 😂

  • @cerillant2797
    @cerillant2797 6 місяців тому +1

    If only swimmy was playing it would of been of a easy win

  • @electricxplorer
    @electricxplorer 6 місяців тому +1

    Braun doesn't know where Cordoba is?

  • @stefanidk7371
    @stefanidk7371 6 місяців тому +1

    The bokoen try not to post a losing game challenge:
    Jk love u man

  • @nomnomxddd7341
    @nomnomxddd7341 6 місяців тому +2

    I was thinking I never saw Bo play Spain
    Now what about China?

  • @Uglukkk
    @Uglukkk 6 місяців тому

    Start of the video is such shock! A competent germany!? On this channel?

  • @thatcontrollerguy5838
    @thatcontrollerguy5838 5 місяців тому

    and of course seemops is germany when the video includes the words germany and defeatist

  • @brendenstuder6119
    @brendenstuder6119 6 місяців тому

    When in doubt, blame it on Golden.

  • @thetruegoldenknight
    @thetruegoldenknight 6 місяців тому

    Video starts with Bo getting mentored on how to win Spanish Civil War...oddly heartwarming by the channel's standards. :)
    But that ending was...a surprise twist.

  • @hunter-wm1hk
    @hunter-wm1hk 6 місяців тому +2

    how did germany fuck up that bad, for a template their tanks didn't look half bad, did they not do their doctrines? not enough air support for their tanks?

    • @kaiserwilhelm8029
      @kaiserwilhelm8029 6 місяців тому +3

      It looks like a few mistakes here and there broke them. Plus the allies seemed like they had slightly more tanks than the axis, or used them where necessary.

    • @Normacly
      @Normacly 6 місяців тому +2

      Looks like College came in clutch with his B2 build. With those, the Germans really can not pierce the B2 unless the German went heavy with anti-gun build.
      Therefore, the B2 were just able to smash the Axis frontline and encircle entire divisions.

  • @ordomachinum4016
    @ordomachinum4016 6 місяців тому

    I love that “script is trash”

  • @thomasrinschedebartz
    @thomasrinschedebartz 6 місяців тому +2

    I think at 0:56 he meant “Cordoba”

  • @Antidisestablismentarianism
    @Antidisestablismentarianism 6 місяців тому

    this is going to be a fun episode, I can tell.

  • @test-subject_1342
    @test-subject_1342 6 місяців тому

    Can someone make a playlist of all the videos the guy whos playing japan is malding at the game/other people

  • @zurabsiradze7822
    @zurabsiradze7822 6 місяців тому +1

    When will we get EAW edit?

  • @noneofyourbusiness9489
    @noneofyourbusiness9489 6 місяців тому

    I thought it was going to be Thomas.

  • @Crusader_Lite
    @Crusader_Lite 6 місяців тому +1

    What mods are you using?

  • @boxcarz
    @boxcarz 6 місяців тому

    0:55 That "???" is "Cordoba," fyi.

  • @frankiecedeno3724
    @frankiecedeno3724 6 місяців тому +2

    This is so much more interesting than normal games the only issue being how whiny Germany was so instead of having fun everyone had to be all supportive. That being said I’d watch that again over the same thing practically every time where the game win/loss is whether or not allies can successfully D-Day before Germany kills the Soviets. It’s the same thing every time and the most interesting games are when it’s not.

  • @gusstheduck1152
    @gusstheduck1152 6 місяців тому +1

    Mega campaign when

  • @danielbabb4776
    @danielbabb4776 6 місяців тому +17

    can i pls have a bokoen axis game where you guys actually win and don't lose due to shenanigans?

    • @zacharysilver911
      @zacharysilver911 6 місяців тому +3

      There’s several ones from this year

    • @antorseax9492
      @antorseax9492 6 місяців тому +6

      The mod is just unbalanced, the Axis can have insane games and still lose.

  • @Kalmaro4152
    @Kalmaro4152 6 місяців тому

    Equestria at War when? It's a genuinely good mod.

  • @chear8145
    @chear8145 6 місяців тому

    That ending lol

  • @walnzell9328
    @walnzell9328 6 місяців тому

    0:56 He says Cordoba.

  • @maciejbala477
    @maciejbala477 3 місяці тому

    I was hoping to see the peace deal

  • @lordderpington8021
    @lordderpington8021 6 місяців тому

    I'm with golden, this script blew ass

  • @IMP_ROM
    @IMP_ROM 6 місяців тому

    0:55 Córdoba. A Spanish city.

  • @3nderall
    @3nderall 6 місяців тому

    bokoen stream archive water mark at the start?

  • @ZYKLES.mp4
    @ZYKLES.mp4 6 місяців тому +2

    Love the dankus promo 😂

  • @ZESAUCEBOSS
    @ZESAUCEBOSS 6 місяців тому

    *Japan joined in 1943*
    ~immediately knew it was a golden Japan~

  • @charlieemhardt4772
    @charlieemhardt4772 6 місяців тому +1

    bokoen's daycare?

  • @juleskonst7406
    @juleskonst7406 6 місяців тому +5

    Swimmy Legion Rally Here!

  • @Yayaloy9
    @Yayaloy9 6 місяців тому

    Bo could you make your video 2k? I would love that

  • @4sakenreaper42
    @4sakenreaper42 6 місяців тому

    Great video

  • @sahilhossain8204
    @sahilhossain8204 6 місяців тому

    Lore of What If Germany Was Defeatist In 1939 - Hoi4 MP In A Nutshell momentum 100

  • @TenkoBerry
    @TenkoBerry 6 місяців тому

    This is Great 👍

  • @FoxDie978
    @FoxDie978 6 місяців тому

    What's it take to get on the Bokoen script writer team

  • @goldenfiberwheat238
    @goldenfiberwheat238 6 місяців тому

    1:27 nothing is idiot proof

  • @samueltrusik3251
    @samueltrusik3251 6 місяців тому

    Love it.

  • @GodSpeedYouCamus
    @GodSpeedYouCamus 6 місяців тому

    Floojoe moment

  • @thedead12
    @thedead12 6 місяців тому

    Play The Battle of Sealow heights mod

  • @Rafagenus
    @Rafagenus 6 місяців тому

    Amazing german accent on german player though

  • @saulgallagher5668
    @saulgallagher5668 6 місяців тому +1

    0:57
    Braun he clearly said cordo-ba
    Yank understanding other accents challange?