Same with me and A Major Invention. So satisfying, the castle of heaven seems to unveil itself around you when finally “discovering” bach. it’s a treasure trove His a major works are just more satisfying, as are mozart’s and even beethoven’s. E Flat and A Major are divine and universally cousins. Cant wait for the next AOt episode. I am high. I am very fucking high.
@XDranzer000 Bachs music requires a much "deeper" listening to get through to him. His music is like complex poems which you maybe have to read many times to really understand the true meaning. But if you get to this point you are more amazed and moved than by almost any other music.
@Boop can’t "avoid" him? It's one thing to say that you are not emotionally moved by his music and another to say it's unpleasant to you. But in any case the fact that you cannot avoid his works on anything that qualifies you musically says it all.
chef d oeuvre de toute beauté et créativité comme BACH a le secret. mais personnellement je suis sensible aussi au passage lent avant la fugue, mais franchement il faut l ecouter par glenn gould.
It is very interesting how Bach knew Italian and French styles so well even he never got out from Germany, never travelled abroad. This suite is very Frenchy but not for the size and "excess" of counterpoint. Despite of it the main "French" musical gestures are all here.
It's interesting to hear Bach, particularly in the Echo, attempt the simpler galant style, while Bach's inner Baroque genius says "Nuts to that!" and away he goes!
listening to Bach's music is a pleasure to the ears, but learning them is pleasure to the fingers. Something about playing Bach's music is just so satifying...
I love Bach so much because of his music explorations and experiments, that no composer before or since has done so, at least in such a way. That's why Bach is #1 in my top 11 composers.
@@kuradipingviin My Top 11 Composers #1. Johann Sebastian Bach (1685-1750) #2. Wolfgang Amadeus Mozart (1756-1791) #3. Ludwig van Beethoven (1770-1827) #4. Joseph Haydn (1732-1809) #5. Franz Schubert (1797-1828) #6. Johannes Brahms (1833-1897) #7. Franz Liszt (1811-1886) #8. Frederic Chopin (1810-1849) #9. Pyotr Ilyich Tchaikovsky (1840-1893) #10. George Frederic Handel (1685-1759) #11. Antonio Vivaldi (1678-1741)
LOL, I guessed it was Trevor Pinnock partly because I own this wonderful recording, but also for his always moderate tempos and the relative lack of drama and flare. He's always so "safe", you know. ^_^
Language and music are two of mankind’s greatest technologies if you will, but so many would rather just say 4 letters words in reaction to everything. And 3 chord songs too. Give me bach or give me nothing
I did not grow up listening to Mozart. He can be the king of the 'unexpected' at times. However, his works as teenager and youngster are awful. People who don't like Classical make fun these works. It is unfortunate he was not born in the Romantic era, where he could have shown his real talent instead of the Rococo, with the minimalism of the Style Galant.
Technically the entire piece is a partita (or a suite, you could be correct--I'm not certain of the true technicalities in terms of naming collections).
Actually, in Germany, in Bach's time, the word "ouverture" was used to designate a suite with a French overture (for example, the original name of the Bach's orchestral suites is "Ouvertures").
When asked that question: "Who would you want to be if you could be any one in history?" Well, I mean, J S Bach is the only answer for me. Just imagine being able to have J S Bach sit at your table and talk with you as an equal - have a laugh about that days Mass, when you decided to riff off into a descending chromatic fugue sequence and he goes: "Hehehe, yeah, that was pretty cool Beavis". Just imagine being Bach, just for a day.
You would be very, very busy! Composing, copying, teaching, performing, rehearsing, tuning, dealing with vexatious persons, not to mention bringing up your many kids...In all, a very full life, with no time to waste, even for one day.
extremely difficult all the ornaments tendonitis for sure.. Once you hear this tempo, it is what you may strive for, but slower will give you chance to appreciate better the harmonies and play with more give and take.
That rhythm at bar 10 of the gigue is driving me crazy. It doesn't feel countable, so I think I should "feel it" and give the impression of "speeding up", but the window is so small that it ends up sounding like they are all demisemiquavers.
@@MrGuilherme1100 I got this from the wiki page "Also unusual for Bach is the inclusion of an extra movement after the Gigue. This is an "echo", a piece meant to exploit the terraced loud and soft dynamics of the two-manual harpsichord. Other movements also have dynamic indications (piano and forte), which are not often found in keyboard suites of the Baroque period, and indicate here the use of the two keyboards of the harpsichord"
This is played on a harpsichord, is it not? If I may ask, how is it that you can alter the dynamics (piano and forte) on the harpsichord? I thought that was something only the pianoforte could do. Did Bach write these pieces with these intended dynamics?
You've transcribed the tile wrongly. You wrote "NACH FRANZÖSIFCHER ART", but it should've been "NACH FRANZÖSISCHER ART". In German, there used to be three s. There is the s (round s), S in capital letters, the ſ (long s), S in capital letter and the ß (sharp s or eszett), written SZ, ẞ or SZ in capital letters. The long s felt out of use but it mandantory in blackletter and certain styles of cursive. Especially in blackletter fonts it might look very similar to f. It would be nice if you could correct that.
hey, i personally have never heard of the long s... what is the difference in terms of sound and usage in these 3 S's??? im curious
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This is long s: ſ. It looks a bit like letter f, but it is s, in fact. In the paſt, it was uſed inſtead of the ſhort s in every caſe, except at the end of the word, at the end of roots in compound words, as a capital S, or after another ſ. Bach uſed it in writing his name: Johann Sebaſtian Bach.
There are only two S's. The ẞ is merely a combination of the long and the short (though also a combination of the long S and Z, early on, but these days it counts as a double S - even though it is still sometimes called "Eszett" - "S Z"). The rules of usage were the same all over Europe, but not rigorously applied. For example, if the S was at the end of the word, it should be the short S. But I have seen the long S used. Anywhere else in the word, an S should be long - but I have seen exceptions here as well. If you have two S's in a row, regardless of where they are in the word, the first should be long and the second short. And this is where ẞ comes from.
Yes, it is. The first movement particularly is called an 'overture' which hails after the French method of composition. Several of Bach's other pieces are French overtures---and not just instrumental pieces (like those of the orchestral suites) or the keyboard works (the partita in F, BWV 833 or g minor, BWV 822) but he features overtures in several cantatas as well (BWv 61, 97, 194, 110, for example). You can recognize the overall French-ness by the dotted rhythms and elegant lines of thirty-second or sixteenth notes. Not to mention the middle fugal section!
Anche se molto lontani nella catalogazione BWV, questa ouverture si colloca nella stessa raccolta con il concerto italiano. Lo stile italiano da una parte, lo stile francese dall'altro. Pensa, entrambi necessitano di un clavicembalo a due manuali.
"Gerubach": unless you are Trevor Pinnock himself, you need to credit him right upfront! Don't just say "Performer & Album Info - 28:02". It's good to see the recording synchronized to a score, but don't be disrespectful to the artist, please.
No, Bach doesn’t do the French manner better than the French. When I think of the French manner I think Couperin, Rameau, D’Anglebert, Nivers, Lebegue, de Grigny, etc. etc. Bach did his Germanic “thing” with the French style, but he didn’t emulate or imitate. He is much too frenetic and cerebral to be authentically French. I think Germans who did a better job of composing in the French style are Bohm and Gottlieb Muffat.
@@Johnluthecomposer it’s hard to elaborate on what I’m saying unless you play the music or look over the score. But Bach took the “French Suite” concept and made it his own, which, yes, is that “Germanic thing” I spoke of. The music is generally at a faster tempo than the typical French suite and his ornamentation isn’t as in depth as some of the French masters. That’s about all I got at this point without going through the entire score here. But I think you get what I mean.
Your channel is interesting and very informative but I don't like to see those great composers getting wore the masks, it is so much ugly and offensive to them, don't you? So, if I'd love to join you, now I determly refuse to do, sorry, but for me it is absurd manipulation to the minds people. 👎🏻👎🏻👎🏻👎🏻👎🏻 Goodbye guys!
Man, I wish I was good enough to play this! There’s something about Bach where playing his work is more fulfilling then just listening.
You can do it man, I was in that stage too, but I’m learning how to play it and I’m learning the overture rn
Same with me and A Major Invention. So satisfying, the castle of heaven seems to unveil itself around you when finally “discovering” bach. it’s a treasure trove
His a major works are just more satisfying, as are mozart’s and even beethoven’s. E Flat and A Major are divine and universally cousins. Cant wait for the next AOt episode. I am high. I am very fucking high.
C est faux !! l écouter, par Glenn Gould ce morceau, peut élever au ciel...(donner de fortes émotions ), comme toute l' écoute de Bach.
Why does Bach have to be so dang good?!?!? All of his songs brings me to tears with his powerful and graceful compositions!
I'm not brought to tears, but I'm in emotional awe. I sort of feel like I'm moving at the speed of light.
@XDranzer000 Bachs music requires a much "deeper" listening to get through to him. His music is like complex poems which you maybe have to read many times to really understand the true meaning. But if you get to this point you are more amazed and moved than by almost any other music.
@XDranzer000 Whenever I see a french person discrediting German culture it reeks of jealousy to me
@XDranzer000 Bach Is surely a musical genius but his too many notes make my head turn...at times
@Boop can’t "avoid" him? It's one thing to say that you are not emotionally moved by his music and another to say it's unpleasant to you. But in any case the fact that you cannot avoid his works on anything that qualifies you musically says it all.
the fugue in the overture is amazing..
chef d oeuvre de toute beauté et créativité comme BACH a le secret. mais personnellement je suis sensible aussi au passage lent avant la fugue, mais franchement il faut l ecouter par glenn gould.
Phil480 j’adore glenn gould!
@@barronhung8246 très bien !
Did you mean gigue?
Idk bach is composing fugue all over the pieces
It is very interesting how Bach knew Italian and French styles so well even he never got out from Germany, never travelled abroad. This suite is very Frenchy but not for the size and "excess" of counterpoint. Despite of it the main "French" musical gestures are all here.
It's interesting to hear Bach, particularly in the Echo, attempt the simpler galant style, while Bach's inner Baroque genius says "Nuts to that!" and away he goes!
Bach: Yes, my church organist instincts mess galant style again. Is that alright with you? I know it’s not like Scarlatti….
Me: *Scarlatti who?*
An especially refined work from Bach. This harpsicord is perfect for it.
This is the finest music I have ever heard.
This is great! So many ornaments, it's making my head spin! Thank you gerubach!
The Gigue made me "woozy" as well. The publication really spaced the notes out on that movement.
I love the Echo!
@lekro: Yes. If humanity, nature & health permits me to, I will do my best to achieve this difficult task.
I hope you'll be able to do so. Present and future humanity would be grateful to you eternally.
gerubach I love the French Overture
@Finn n The Question was: Will you attempt to climb mount Everest?
Man your channel is really useful and istructive, one of the best out there. Keep it alive!
Thank you IlVeroRe. I'm pleased that you have enjoyed it. More to come.
Astonishing… there are no words to describe Bach’s majesty.
listening to Bach's music is a pleasure to the ears, but learning them is pleasure to the fingers. Something about playing Bach's music is just so satifying...
It’s because it utter perfection. Bach is a once-in-a-universe phenomenon
extraordinario tu aporte de poder escuchar y leer esta maravilla de música, gracias.
2:47 Now this is epic
Outstanding work you put in there. Looking forward to other pieces!
That gique is beautiful and absolutely wonderful.
Magnificent!! I love the French Ouverture!
Guess he was in a good mood when writing this, sparkling and impressive. No wonder some people were very jealous and tried to take him down.
The fugue of the ouverture at 2:45 is CATCHY
Actually the gavotte is catchier IMO
Es re aburrida esa parte
@@ana-ch3ie LOL
Bach está orgulloso de ti, hijo =P Trabajo impecable.
WOW, and what an instrument! Parts of this sound like it's an organ!
I love Bach so much because of his music explorations and experiments, that no composer before or since has done so, at least in such a way. That's why Bach is #1 in my top 11 composers.
Who are the others
@@kuradipingviin
My Top 11 Composers
#1. Johann Sebastian Bach (1685-1750)
#2. Wolfgang Amadeus Mozart (1756-1791)
#3. Ludwig van Beethoven (1770-1827)
#4. Joseph Haydn (1732-1809)
#5. Franz Schubert (1797-1828)
#6. Johannes Brahms (1833-1897)
#7. Franz Liszt (1811-1886)
#8. Frederic Chopin (1810-1849)
#9. Pyotr Ilyich Tchaikovsky (1840-1893)
#10. George Frederic Handel (1685-1759)
#11. Antonio Vivaldi (1678-1741)
@@ZachDrake5960 why not Scriabin
@@kuradipingviin Never heard of that composer before...
@@kuradipingviin Because I have not heard of that composer.
I always feels there are something deeper hides inside bach's music.
Daniel Tsui The influence of Jean-Baptiste Lully :D
Thank you very much for your comment. I call that " the intrinsic contrapuntal structure " Mozart and Schubert are two other greatest of all times
Search for Bach number symbolism
Daniel Tsui That is exactly how I feel.
Sa musique est céleste et sa créativité inégalable.
Gerubach keep up your fabulous work!
LOL, I guessed it was Trevor Pinnock partly because I own this wonderful recording, but also for his always moderate tempos and the relative lack of drama and flare. He's always so "safe", you know. ^_^
Are you being ironic? Pinnock stretches tempos further than the average, and for dramatic effect. He's also extremely virtuosic.
@@hugoclarke3284 And so many ornaments! He's great.
Thanks for uploading!
This is one of my favorites to hear.
13:42 extremely rare occurrence of B major during the time of Bach.
You might be right, but weren't well temperaments already mostly used at that time making b major a usable scale?
Cette pièce déborde d'excellence.
I agree with whatever you said!
Language and music are two of mankind’s greatest technologies if you will, but so many would rather just say 4 letters words in reaction to everything. And 3 chord songs too. Give me bach or give me nothing
I never understand how people say they prefer Mozart's incredibly boring keyboard works over Bach. This is rockin'!!!!!!
Mozart's simplicty has a lot of love in it too. I find them both awesome works but Bach to be of a more profound nature, for sure.
@@Cizzo8 that's a good take brother
I did not grow up listening to Mozart. He can be the king of the 'unexpected' at times. However, his works as teenager and youngster are awful. People who don't like Classical make fun these works. It is unfortunate he was not born in the Romantic era, where he could have shown his real talent instead of the Rococo, with the minimalism of the Style Galant.
EXCELENTE Y DIDACTICO, BACH SIEMPRE SUENA NUEVO
this is great thank u to u. j apprend et je decouvre la musique classique...
The Echo is so cool!!!
Called it ouverture, but made a suite. Nice work Bach!
Technically the entire piece is a partita (or a suite, you could be correct--I'm not certain of the true technicalities in terms of naming collections).
@@MitchBoucherComposer I think a partita is just a German suite
@@trashbagsmiley1999 Thanks for the clarification!
Actually, in Germany, in Bach's time, the word "ouverture" was used to designate a suite with a French overture (for example, the original name of the Bach's orchestral suites is "Ouvertures").
@@elinathanferlay1013 Indeed; or like the little overture BWV 820 in F major, which is another piece for the harpsichord
esta obra es una maravilla, el desarrollo de sus voces fuera de serie, igual que la partir a n6
I think this one is his best suite
10:50 So this is how an harpischord who caught a cold sounds like
Lol.
I also noticed he included an overture in the Goldberg Variations (Variation 16).
Am I mad to think that that gigue is very similar to the one in French Suite no2, in C Minor?
gorgeous
When asked that question: "Who would you want to be if you could be any one in history?" Well, I mean, J S Bach is the only answer for me. Just imagine being able to have J S Bach sit at your table and talk with you as an equal - have a laugh about that days Mass, when you decided to riff off into a descending chromatic fugue sequence and he goes: "Hehehe, yeah, that was pretty cool Beavis". Just imagine being Bach, just for a day.
Bach was indeed a man of life loved his wine his beer just a happy man and composer in general
You would be very, very busy! Composing, copying, teaching, performing, rehearsing, tuning, dealing with vexatious persons, not to mention bringing up your many kids...In all, a very full life, with no time to waste, even for one day.
extremely difficult all the ornaments tendonitis for sure.. Once you hear this tempo, it is what you may strive for, but slower will give you chance to appreciate better the harmonies and play with more give and take.
I love it.
fantastic !
Bach is still great some 270 years after his death!!!!!!!!
Bach loves using those neighboring tones in themes.
UA-cam, please fix your app so we can use time marks! Meanwhile...
Published on Nov 11, 2013
Performer & Album Info - 28:02
1. Overture - 0:19
2. Courante - 7:50
3. Gavotte 1/2 - 9:37
4. Passpied 1/2 - 12:36
5. Sarabande - 15:09
6. Bourree 1/2 - 20:11
7. Gique - 22:53
8. Echo - 24:58
The echo… emotional
Appreciate if you call upload the scroll of The Musical Offering especially the 6 part ricercar.
i like this one
congratulations
La Overture divina!
Start at 0:23
Start fugue 2:47
Could you please make the Cello Suites after this? Or at least the Air?
Sorry Ameno but the Air & the Cello Suites will have to wait. The next animation will be the St. Matthew Passion. (That mountain has to be climbed).
Oh ok
Good Luck and Best Regards
gerubach There is a section starts at 2:45, is it a fugato? It reminds me the structure of fugal works.
That's a full-blown Fugue, boi!
It's an entire fugue. Personally I think it's one of his best and longest fugues!
@E-H-Music Do you mean 1067?
Correct, 1067 is an orchestral suite.
Correct.
❤️
21:13
5:24 ha, circle of 5th, most repeated part of this video
La musique est un don de Dieu
5:50 Invention 4 theme
That rhythm at bar 10 of the gigue is driving me crazy. It doesn't feel countable, so I think I should "feel it" and give the impression of "speeding up", but the window is so small that it ends up sounding like they are all demisemiquavers.
Maeve
Does anyone know what this harpsichord is tuned to. It doesn't sound like A=440 hz.
+Revodon3s Maybe A=419 hz
It's tuned to standard Baroque tuning, which is a bit like a half-step below our modern tuning. His B minor equals something like our B flat minor.
Bach does the French style better than the French.
I wish I could like this comment again!
Not really..?
How stupid it is
Have you ever listened to Lully's work at least ?
does anyone know what is an Echo (in video description)?
@@MrGuilherme1100 I got this from the wiki page
"Also unusual for Bach is the inclusion of an extra movement after the Gigue. This is an "echo", a piece meant to exploit the terraced loud and soft dynamics of the two-manual harpsichord. Other movements also have dynamic indications (piano and forte), which are not often found in keyboard suites of the Baroque period, and indicate here the use of the two keyboards of the harpsichord"
This is played on a harpsichord, is it not? If I may ask, how is it that you can alter the dynamics (piano and forte) on the harpsichord? I thought that was something only the pianoforte could do. Did Bach write these pieces with these intended dynamics?
Bach is my best friend
Wonderful music! But I get a headache watching this.
fugue: 2:40
Thank You. Any information on the performer...?
Trevor Pinnock
11:44 xDDDDD :)
You've transcribed the tile wrongly. You wrote "NACH FRANZÖSIFCHER ART", but it should've been "NACH FRANZÖSISCHER ART". In German, there used to be three s. There is the s (round s), S in capital letters, the ſ (long s), S in capital letter and the ß (sharp s or eszett), written SZ, ẞ or SZ in capital letters. The long s felt out of use but it mandantory in blackletter and certain styles of cursive. Especially in blackletter fonts it might look very similar to f. It would be nice if you could correct that.
Please try and find something more important in life to worry about, or maybe just enjoy the music, that's what matters.
Bronk Tug, the god of irony seems to have singled you out for special adverse attention.
hey, i personally have never heard of the long s... what is the difference in terms of sound and usage in these 3 S's??? im curious
This is long s: ſ. It looks a bit like letter f, but it is s, in fact. In the paſt, it was uſed inſtead of the ſhort s in every caſe, except at the end of the word, at the end of roots in compound words, as a capital S, or after another ſ. Bach uſed it in writing his name: Johann Sebaſtian Bach.
There are only two S's. The ẞ is merely a combination of the long and the short (though also a combination of the long S and Z, early on, but these days it counts as a double S - even though it is still sometimes called "Eszett" - "S Z"). The rules of usage were the same all over Europe, but not rigorously applied. For example, if the S was at the end of the word, it should be the short S. But I have seen the long S used. Anywhere else in the word, an S should be long - but I have seen exceptions here as well. If you have two S's in a row, regardless of where they are in the word, the first should be long and the second short. And this is where ẞ comes from.
Perché secondo voi questa suite non ha l'allemanda?
2:47
5:18
gique catchy
Is this written in the musical form of French Overture?
Yes, it is. The first movement particularly is called an 'overture' which hails after the French method of composition. Several of Bach's other pieces are French overtures---and not just instrumental pieces (like those of the orchestral suites) or the keyboard works (the partita in F, BWV 833 or g minor, BWV 822) but he features overtures in several cantatas as well (BWv 61, 97, 194, 110, for example).
You can recognize the overall French-ness by the dotted rhythms and elegant lines of thirty-second or sixteenth notes. Not to mention the middle fugal section!
Anche se molto lontani nella catalogazione BWV, questa ouverture si colloca nella stessa raccolta con il concerto italiano. Lo stile italiano da una parte, lo stile francese dall'altro. Pensa, entrambi necessitano di un clavicembalo a due manuali.
"Gerubach": unless you are Trevor Pinnock himself, you need to credit him right upfront! Don't just say "Performer & Album Info - 28:02". It's good to see the recording synchronized to a score, but don't be disrespectful to the artist, please.
5:38 :D
Yep, you know it. Glenn Gould totally rocks the bass in that section
The overture sounds very French
That's the point
2:47
I never knew that the Sarabande was part of a French overture, I thought it was Spanish...
gigue is irish in that sense.
Nathaniel Ouzana fair point good sir :D
Yeah!! Gigue = Jigg
@@nathanielouzanae non era neanche in tempo ternario
I don't like how fast his courantes are. It's not a corrente.
what is the instrument?
Lu Yang harpsichord
Early Leonhardt?
Performer & Album Info - 28:02
gerubach
Thank you! I listened to all of it but without keeping my eye on it ...
No, Bach doesn’t do the French manner better than the French. When I think of the French manner I think Couperin, Rameau, D’Anglebert, Nivers, Lebegue, de Grigny, etc. etc. Bach did his Germanic “thing” with the French style, but he didn’t emulate or imitate. He is much too frenetic and cerebral to be authentically French. I think Germans who did a better job of composing in the French style are Bohm and Gottlieb Muffat.
Interesting - in a way I feel I can agree with you. Could you elaborate on this “German thing” you are referring to?
@@Johnluthecomposer it’s hard to elaborate on what I’m saying unless you play the music or look over the score. But Bach took the “French Suite” concept and made it his own, which, yes, is that “Germanic thing” I spoke of. The music is generally at a faster tempo than the typical French suite and his ornamentation isn’t as in depth as some of the French masters. That’s about all I got at this point without going through the entire score here. But I think you get what I mean.
Connaisseur
@@thomasdastillung4097 sry I have to correct your spelling but it’s “connoisseur”.
@@CarlBowlby The French certainly knew how to used ornaments in their keyboard works.
It’s a gigue, not a gique.
この曲とイタリア協奏曲と半音階的幻想曲が抱き合わせになったレコードが多い。わしは、この3曲が一番バッハ的でない気がする。クラヴイアユーブングは当時販売された数少ない楽譜であるから、バッハも趣向を凝らしたのか。遅い・速い・遅いというのがフランス風と言うことらしいが、クープランやダングルベールとかの曲とは全く違う。最後のエコーは要らん。演奏者はピノックか？
interprete?
Trevor Pinnock
Bach ın eserleri orkestralanırsa (orchestration) daha iyi olur. Bu mükemmellik tek tınıda boğuluyor. Halka ulaşamıyor. Ama o da çok zor bir iş !
too fast
Your channel is interesting and very informative but I don't like to see those great composers getting wore the masks, it is so much ugly and offensive to them, don't you? So, if I'd love to join you, now I determly refuse to do, sorry, but for me it is absurd manipulation to the minds people.
👎🏻👎🏻👎🏻👎🏻👎🏻
Goodbye guys!
Where are the masks?
@@louiscouperin3731 look the home page. The composers getting masks! 😷😷😷😷🙈🙈🙈ridiculous!
Ludovico Temi l see
@@louiscouperin3731 why? What for?
Ludovico Temi l agree. It is ridiculous. But for me it doesn’t undermine the quality of Gerubach’s work.
Horribly played...
Explain yourself?
Trashbag Smiley -- Who cares, he is a troll, dont feed him.
Lol