I have the same stove in my 800 sq ft log cabin. It was my sole heat and cooking sorce last winter. Had no problem keeping the cabin in the mid 70's even with below 0 weather. I prefer to monitor stack temps with a probe thermometer about 20" above the stove, there's less delay than monitoring the stove top temp and its easier to see from a distance. I burn mostly Aspen because it's mostly what I have on my land, most say its trash wood but I tell them it burns fine and burns better than snow balls!
I wouldn’t say burn through the night but with good hardwood you can have enough coals for relight in 6-8 hours. This stove seems to produce good heat on a full load for 4-5 hours.@@woodspirit98 I
I found one of these used out at Sauvies Island. I'm building out a tiny home (360 sq feet) and found that this model was perfect. The temperature is starting to drop so we are trying to get this project rolling. Thanks for the pointers, I appreciate your perspective with conservation, purpose stacking, and reuse.
Wow! Thank you for your video. This is the best tutorial I’ve seen regarding wood stoves in general, but the Jotul F602 in particular. I plan on using this stove when I build a small (200 sq. ft.) out building. All the best!
This the most informative video about wood stoves I've seen on youtube. Learned so much. I live in an 1800s home with an open fireplace that I want to convert to something actually useful. A fireplace insert seemed like the obvious answer, but a freestanding stove serves so many more functions, as you've demonstrated, that I really want to go that route if possible. Thanks!
We are going to be putting in our first wood stove in the next month or two. Excited. We will be doing ours ourselves...not a lot of regulations in Western Kentucky!
That’s so exciting!! One thing I forgot to mention in the video is how important it is to have a carbon monoxide detector if you have a Woodstove, whether professionally installed or not. Best of luck with the installation and enjoy all the toasty fires!
Great video. We are about an hour and a half north of Portland. All the reviews/videos I've seen so far have been from the NE so it was nice to see it in the PNW and how it's holding up out here.
Great video! BTW - I noticed your wall receptacle is sunken on the left side of the stove. An electrical box extender should be installed to bring the receptacle out flush to the cover. It’s very easy to do and there’re lots of UA-cam videos on how to do it.
I love our Jotul 602. We have a straw bale home in central Kentucky. It keeps us toasty warm all winter long. We also make biochar in the wood stove, to add to our compost pile, then our gardens. Another function to stack on top. Please discuss how you bake potatoes or sweet potatoes using your wood stove. I've fried them, or made soups in my pressure cooker, but not done any baking. Thanks.
Oh I have been thinking about making biochar in ours. Thanks for reminding me! I use a heavy Dutch oven and rub the potatoes/sweet potatoes in bacon grease and stab some holes in them with a paring knife. I stick the Dutch oven on the stove with the lid on. Flip after 30 min and just let them go until done...about an hour? Depends on the temp of the stove and size of The spud.
I have a Jotul in my studio (converted old detached garage). It was there when we moved in. I don't know what model it is. It has two chambers, the lower chamber is the fire box and the upper chamber retains the warm air. I would love to get a fan for the top. It is a super cozy stove!
I heated a home in South East Pennsylvania for 5 years on wood. It's hard work. My experience says get a long stove . Don't get a stove that forces you to do more work than necessary.
I agree, I don’t love having a shorter fire box. It often means when I find free wood, I have to get out the chainsaw and buck it shorter. But it does allow for less clearance and it doesn’t stick out into our living room as far, which was important to me, since the space is small. But it is more work. For sure.
We’ll be moving to NH and living in 3 10x14 connected timber framed “sheds”. We’ll be using solar for energy, composting toilets and 2 small wood stoves. This was invaluable. Thank you.
What town are you living in. Ive done plenty of research and have a SHED on my property and some towns wont allow a shed with out a residence. Some towns seam Not to care what you do on your property.
I bought one of these "NEW" for $250. Be carefull not to close the door if the wood is sticking out too far. The glass was about $30 to replace. Powerhouse little stove !!!
LOVE your educational video! I'm shopping for a small wood stove. What are the measurements of your wall behind the stove and the hearth? Can you explain the steps and materials used to make the hearth? What are the clearances to the wall? And where did you find that wainscot? Beautiful!
Oh, you are correct. It's to regulate chimney fires. She can use it as she explains for monitoring, but they belong at least 18" from the exhaust port on the stove. But you're correct. For safety. Don't use wet oak, that guage will rise from quicker creosote build up. I guess if you're a putz like me, you may not need a thermometer. But get one for the pipe. Cheers.
Actually with a double-walled pipe, it reads low. The manufacturer says to put it on the stove or the stove could get too hot while the insulated pipe still reads within the safe zone :)
I would say it is still slightly warm by 5 AM. And the blocks of soapstone I now have piled around. It will also still have a little bit of radiant heat. But the room will be cold.
I'm curious about how you handle cooking smells and spatters, or even cooking prep. Do you prepare in the kitchen and bring it in to the woodstove? Does the fan help dissipate smells? (I know they're usually wonderful smells, but I can't be the only one who burns stuff!) As for spatters, is the area easy to clean up?
I don’t fry or sauté on it, only make baked things like bread and potatoes or a pot of stew. I do the prep in the kitchen and carry it in. I will say when removing the lid to check things, it’s really important that the stove is hot enough to dry off any condensation that may drip from the lid or you can get rust spots. It’s definitely not a stove for doing all my cooking, but it’s nice for some basic things.
Parkrose.....curious how you feel about the Vermont castings aspen wood stove (debating between this Jotul and the aspen). BTW... I own a Jotul FB c3 at my weekend cabin and it is dear to my heart.
At the time, it was about $300 more than the Jotul and the Jotul was slightly more efficient. I’m not sure what the efficiency is of the new aspen, but those were the two deciding factors for us at the time.
We are considering buying this stove for our 860 square foot house one story with ten foot ceilings. It’s also open concept. I’m worried it won’t heat sufficiently. Do you think I’m your experience with the stove it would be sufficient? We’re on Vancouver island so I’m pretty sure it’s a similar climate to yours!
It's rated to heat up to 800 square feet. I've found that in our 1435 square foot house, it heats the entire downstairs and we don't run the heater very much in the winter as a result. My dream is to cut a hole in the ceiling and put in a register to the floor above, because honestly, the front two rooms of our house get VERY toasty and the upstairs is still quite cold (because no heater running). I've been SUPER happy with how much this stove heats our downstairs space.
Great for finding the needed building materials, and good job installing it. Could not help but notice the receptacle behind the stove, missing an extender...😁 otherwise perfect.
I do not put extenders on receptacles behind stoves, they stay much cooler when 3/4" behind the faceplate. My choice is to move the receptacle before installing the stove. You don't melt / dry out the cords to fans etc back there. Michael in Colorado.
Walnut produces a oily combustible creosote that causes chimney fires so I don't use it inside a stove. I do like your straight shot stovepipe. Any wet creosote can drain back into the fire. I told a coworker about that and he said I was " full of shit". About a month later he did have a chimney fire . Caution!
Yes absolutely I think it’s important if you’re burning resinous wood to make sure you’re in the safe burn zone and to get your chimney cleaned regularly. Doubly so if you’ve got a bendy chimney pipe. I make sure our stovepipe is kept clean especially because I use our local cedar to start most fires (abundant, lights very easily) but it is known for creosote buildup.
Please check fire codes before cutting into the ceiling/floor and installing registers, there’s all kinds of safety considerations so that it doesn’t increase the risk of a fire being able to move quickly between floors. (I’m sure you would do that, but I couldn’t watch this and not say anything.)
@@ParkrosePermaculture Thanks! Do you know who to contact to get it installed? I live in Washington state and I tried contacting grizzly mini stove company and they never replied back. I need to find somebody who knows how to install it. I tried some other manufacturers and they told me that they’re having trouble getting smaller wood stoves. They weren’t interested in installing somebody else’s.
We bought our stove at the Homestead Stove Company in Portland and they connected us to a licensed installer. I'm not sure what the law is where you are, but here you can't install your own and you need a permit. The licensed installer inspects and issues the permit AND does the installation.
I have this stove. It's awesome, the fact that it fits a 16" log easy is a serious life saver. The Grizzly mini my buddy has forces him to cut the wood extra small with a chainsaw. The grizzly mini works really well, it saves space but the Jotel saves you lots of time.
Depends on the wood. We use hardwood and if you damp it way down when you go to bed, it is about 50/50 if you still have glowing embers after 7 or 8 hours. For that though, the box is usually still warm and the next fire is very easy to start.
Do you really have to buy a brand new stove to install in Portland, or rather a model that is new in the sense that it is new enough to meet current EPA clean air regulations with either air tubes or a catalytic element? If you are forced to buy brand new, it seems kind of illogical, given that barely used EPA wood stoves that come up for sale on Craigslist and Marketplace, and going in the opposite direction of the concept of reduce/reuse/recycle.
Yes, and in fact, if you sell your house in Portland, and there is an uncertified stove or a stove that doesn’t meet current emission standards, the law says it must be destroyed when the house is put on the market.
The wood framing around window on the RIGHT side of the stove will 100 % fall victim to pyrolosis. 18 inches to 36 inches above the unit is when the issue occurs Your clearance to pyrolosis is REALLY Bad. Install a heat breathing barrier or you will see Obviously it'll happen, hope you saw this and called a professional by now to address the right window
Save the earth ! ....move to Mars !....combustion fast / slow decaing , all = in time , thank you for the video ! some extra load is the fan , heat rizes ....when I would like to preserve the heat the ashes are back in the fire''box'' covering all , in the morning is charcoal , ....on mine I use the rear exit for larger top surface , !
Cool video. I’m with ya on the rules. I also live in a communist state here in California and couldn’t install mine either. Love the hearth you built! Thanks for sharing. Mike.
I have the jotul black bear stove and it is shit,just pure junk. These stoves look good,but the older models with the spin wheel draft are far more supetior in construction and air flow function. The louvered shutter up front for draft control is shit. Good luck holding a warming fire for more than 4 hours before having to re stock the stove. Better jotul stoves are the f 500 ve olslo ,f 400 olslo carrabasset,,and the Rangely. The vermont casting aspen is about one of the best small stoves for supplemental heating. It has a grate ,and burn tubes,fire brick lining,porcelain dipp of different colors ,and a expansion contraction spring controlled thermostat,and a fire viewing glass door. It is a heavy stove and has much mass for heat sink retention and radiant distribution. Weight and mass of heat retention materials are so important to retain and keep heat. The soap stone fire hearth is an excellent idea.
So you are in oregon thr socialist ,marxist controlled state,where you cant even wipe your own ass without being told how to do it. Vote your totalitarian government out and liberate your self.
I have the same stove in my 800 sq ft log cabin. It was my sole heat and cooking sorce last winter. Had no problem keeping the cabin in the mid 70's even with below 0 weather. I prefer to monitor stack temps with a probe thermometer about 20" above the stove, there's less delay than monitoring the stove top temp and its easier to see from a distance. I burn mostly Aspen because it's mostly what I have on my land, most say its trash wood but I tell them it burns fine and burns better than snow balls!
Did it burn thru the night?
I wouldn’t say burn through the night but with good hardwood you can have enough coals for relight in 6-8 hours. This stove seems to produce good heat on a full load for 4-5 hours.@@woodspirit98 I
I found one of these used out at Sauvies Island. I'm building out a tiny home (360 sq feet) and found that this model was perfect. The temperature is starting to drop so we are trying to get this project rolling. Thanks for the pointers, I appreciate your perspective with conservation, purpose stacking, and reuse.
Leave a window open.my experience with jodel stoves is they super heat on a full wood box
Just ordered a new Jotul 602 stove for the hunting cabin, this video is so helpful for us to get started with all the tips, thank you!
They are a great little stove !!! I sold a lot of Jotul stoves over the years !
This is the best video on wood stoves!
thanks so much I have a Yotul 602 and I love this stove and your tips have really helped me as a novice.
Wow! Thank you for your video. This is the best tutorial I’ve seen regarding wood stoves in general, but the Jotul F602 in particular. I plan on using this stove when I build a small (200 sq. ft.) out building. All the best!
very smart woman! and skilled!
This the most informative video about wood stoves I've seen on youtube. Learned so much. I live in an 1800s home with an open fireplace that I want to convert to something actually useful. A fireplace insert seemed like the obvious answer, but a freestanding stove serves so many more functions, as you've demonstrated, that I really want to go that route if possible. Thanks!
I love my Jotul 602!
We are going to be putting in our first wood stove in the next month or two. Excited. We will be doing ours ourselves...not a lot of regulations in Western Kentucky!
That’s so exciting!! One thing I forgot to mention in the video is how important it is to have a carbon monoxide detector if you have a Woodstove, whether professionally installed or not.
Best of luck with the installation and enjoy all the toasty fires!
Great video. We are about an hour and a half north of Portland. All the reviews/videos I've seen so far have been from the NE so it was nice to see it in the PNW and how it's holding up out here.
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Tip: Vinegar does a nice job of cleaning firebox glass too.
Great video! BTW - I noticed your wall receptacle is sunken on the left side of the stove. An electrical box extender should be installed to bring the receptacle out flush to the cover. It’s very easy to do and there’re lots of UA-cam videos on how to do it.
It’s on our list of to-dos! Lots of old house problems!
I love our Jotul 602. We have a straw bale home in central Kentucky. It keeps us toasty warm all winter long. We also make biochar in the wood stove, to add to our compost pile, then our gardens. Another function to stack on top.
Please discuss how you bake potatoes or sweet potatoes using your wood stove. I've fried them, or made soups in my pressure cooker, but not done any baking. Thanks.
Oh I have been thinking about making biochar in ours. Thanks for reminding me!
I use a heavy Dutch oven and rub the potatoes/sweet potatoes in bacon grease and stab some holes in them with a paring knife. I stick the Dutch oven on the stove with the lid on. Flip after 30 min and just let them go until done...about an hour? Depends on the temp of the stove and size of The spud.
@@ParkrosePermaculture Thanks!
I have a Jotul in my studio (converted old detached garage). It was there when we moved in. I don't know what model it is. It has two chambers, the lower chamber is the fire box and the upper chamber retains the warm air. I would love to get a fan for the top. It is a super cozy stove!
I heated a home in South East Pennsylvania for 5 years on wood. It's hard work. My experience says get a long stove . Don't get a stove that forces you to do more work than necessary.
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I agree, I don’t love having a shorter fire box. It often means when I find free wood, I have to get out the chainsaw and buck it shorter. But it does allow for less clearance and it doesn’t stick out into our living room as far, which was important to me, since the space is small. But it is more work. For sure.
Great video. Can put a couple thick blocks of soapstone on top of the stove for overnight heat retention.
Sure
Or bricks
We’ll be moving to NH and living in 3 10x14 connected timber framed “sheds”. We’ll be using solar for energy, composting toilets and 2 small wood stoves. This was invaluable. Thank you.
What town are you living in. Ive done plenty of research and have a SHED on my property and some towns wont allow a shed with out a residence. Some towns seam Not to care what you do on your property.
I bought one of these "NEW" for $250. Be carefull not to close the door if the wood is sticking out too far. The glass was about $30 to replace. Powerhouse little stove !!!
Good stuff, thx.
LOVE your educational video! I'm shopping for a small wood stove. What are the measurements of your wall behind the stove and the hearth? Can you explain the steps and materials used to make the hearth? What are the clearances to the wall?
And where did you find that wainscot? Beautiful!
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i'm no expert but as far as i know, the operational temp is supposed to be taken on the stovepipe, not the stove itself.
Oh, you are correct. It's to regulate chimney fires. She can use it as she explains for monitoring, but they belong at least 18" from the exhaust port on the stove. But you're correct. For safety. Don't use wet oak, that guage will rise from quicker creosote build up. I guess if you're a putz like me, you may not need a thermometer. But get one for the pipe. Cheers.
Actually with a double-walled pipe, it reads low. The manufacturer says to put it on the stove or the stove could get too hot while the insulated pipe still reads within the safe zone :)
Do you remove the cooking surface disc when cooking? I like the soapstone and green colour...my jotul is in a 35ft MCI coach...love it! Cheers!
Say you go to bed with a full fire box at 11pm, is it possible to still have heat from the stove at 5am?
I would say it is still slightly warm by 5 AM. And the blocks of soapstone I now have piled around. It will also still have a little bit of radiant heat. But the room will be cold.
Do you have cold air intake?
I'm curious about how you handle cooking smells and spatters, or even cooking prep. Do you prepare in the kitchen and bring it in to the woodstove? Does the fan help dissipate smells? (I know they're usually wonderful smells, but I can't be the only one who burns stuff!) As for spatters, is the area easy to clean up?
I don’t fry or sauté on it, only make baked things like bread and potatoes or a pot of stew. I do the prep in the kitchen and carry it in.
I will say when removing the lid to check things, it’s really important that the stove is hot enough to dry off any condensation that may drip from the lid or you can get rust spots.
It’s definitely not a stove for doing all my cooking, but it’s nice for some basic things.
How long does it take to boil water?
Say maybe two quarts.
Everyone is crazy about this stove.
Nobody ever says anything about how much they cost. My question is how much does it cost?
it depends on where you live, as the price can vary a bit, but we paid $900 USD for ours.
Parkrose.....curious how you feel about the Vermont castings aspen wood stove (debating between this Jotul and the aspen). BTW... I own a Jotul FB c3 at my weekend cabin and it is dear to my heart.
At the time, it was about $300 more than the Jotul and the Jotul was slightly more efficient. I’m not sure what the efficiency is of the new aspen, but those were the two deciding factors for us at the time.
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What type of connector piece did you use to go from the stove to the 6 inch double wall?
We are considering buying this stove for our 860 square foot house one story with ten foot ceilings. It’s also open concept. I’m worried it won’t heat sufficiently. Do you think I’m your experience with the stove it would be sufficient? We’re on Vancouver island so I’m pretty sure it’s a similar climate to yours!
It's rated to heat up to 800 square feet. I've found that in our 1435 square foot house, it heats the entire downstairs and we don't run the heater very much in the winter as a result. My dream is to cut a hole in the ceiling and put in a register to the floor above, because honestly, the front two rooms of our house get VERY toasty and the upstairs is still quite cold (because no heater running). I've been SUPER happy with how much this stove heats our downstairs space.
If you put that register right by that wood stove every time you open that stove you will have smoked upstairs love wood Heat
Registers can also be deadly in the case of a house fire.
Are you able to burn coal in this stove?
Great for finding the needed building materials, and good job installing it. Could not help but notice the receptacle behind the stove, missing an extender...😁 otherwise perfect.
I do not put extenders on receptacles behind stoves, they stay much cooler when 3/4" behind the faceplate. My choice is to move the receptacle before installing the stove. You don't melt / dry out the cords to fans etc back there. Michael in Colorado.
$900? I checked the price today. It's now $1500.00 in our area. 😞
Walnut produces a oily combustible creosote that causes chimney fires so I don't use it inside a stove. I do like your straight shot stovepipe. Any wet creosote can drain back into the fire. I told a coworker about that and he said I was " full of shit". About a month later he did have a chimney fire . Caution!
Yes absolutely I think it’s important if you’re burning resinous wood to make sure you’re in the safe burn zone and to get your chimney cleaned regularly. Doubly so if you’ve got a bendy chimney pipe. I make sure our stovepipe is kept clean especially because I use our local cedar to start most fires (abundant, lights very easily) but it is known for creosote buildup.
Please check fire codes before cutting into the ceiling/floor and installing registers, there’s all kinds of safety considerations so that it doesn’t increase the risk of a fire being able to move quickly between floors. (I’m sure you would do that, but I couldn’t watch this and not say anything.)
She has the full JOTUL program through the ceiling. That square is the support for a triple wall flue.
How much did it cost you to have it installed? I’m looking at this one and the grizzly cube mini wood stove.
I think the license, pipe, and installation were about $2k?
@@ParkrosePermaculture
Thanks! Do you know who to contact to get it installed? I live in Washington state and I tried contacting grizzly mini stove company and they never replied back.
I need to find somebody who knows how to install it. I tried some other manufacturers and they told me that they’re having trouble getting smaller wood stoves. They weren’t interested in installing somebody else’s.
We bought our stove at the Homestead Stove Company in Portland and they connected us to a licensed installer. I'm not sure what the law is where you are, but here you can't install your own and you need a permit. The licensed installer inspects and issues the permit AND does the installation.
@@ParkrosePermaculture
Thanks 🤙
I have this stove. It's awesome, the fact that it fits a 16" log easy is a serious life saver. The Grizzly mini my buddy has forces him to cut the wood extra small with a chainsaw. The grizzly mini works really well, it saves space but the Jotel saves you lots of time.
Will it burn all night?
Depends on the wood. We use hardwood and if you damp it way down when you go to bed, it is about 50/50 if you still have glowing embers after 7 or 8 hours. For that though, the box is usually still warm and the next fire is very easy to start.
Do you really have to buy a brand new stove to install in Portland, or rather a model that is new in the sense that it is new enough to meet current EPA clean air regulations with either air tubes or a catalytic element? If you are forced to buy brand new, it seems kind of illogical, given that barely used EPA wood stoves that come up for sale on Craigslist and Marketplace, and going in the opposite direction of the concept of reduce/reuse/recycle.
Yes, and in fact, if you sell your house in Portland, and there is an uncertified stove or a stove that doesn’t meet current emission standards, the law says it must be destroyed when the house is put on the market.
@@ParkrosePermaculture Good Info. Crazy laws and they wonder why people cant afford to live on minimum wage.
The wood framing around window on the RIGHT side of the stove will 100 % fall victim to pyrolosis.
18 inches to 36 inches above the unit is when the issue occurs
Your clearance to pyrolosis is REALLY Bad.
Install a heat breathing barrier or you will see
Obviously it'll happen, hope you saw this and called a professional by now to address the right window
Save the earth ! ....move to Mars !....combustion fast / slow decaing , all = in time , thank you for the video ! some extra load is the fan , heat rizes ....when I would like to preserve the heat the ashes are back in the fire''box'' covering all , in the morning is charcoal , ....on mine I use the rear exit for larger top surface , !
Cool video. I’m with ya on the rules. I also live in a communist state here in California and couldn’t install mine either. Love the hearth you built! Thanks for sharing. Mike.
burning wood is fun
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i got a new 602 jøtul it's a peace of shit stove
How so?
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I have the jotul black bear stove and it is shit,just pure junk. These stoves look good,but the older models with the spin wheel draft are far more supetior in construction and air flow function. The louvered shutter up front for draft control is shit. Good luck holding a warming fire for more than 4 hours before having to re stock the stove. Better jotul stoves are the f 500 ve olslo ,f 400 olslo carrabasset,,and the Rangely. The vermont casting aspen is about one of the best small stoves for supplemental heating. It has a grate ,and burn tubes,fire brick lining,porcelain dipp of different colors ,and a expansion contraction spring controlled thermostat,and a fire viewing glass door. It is a heavy stove and has much mass for heat sink retention and radiant distribution. Weight and mass of heat retention materials are so important to retain and keep heat. The soap stone fire hearth is an excellent idea.
So you are in oregon thr socialist ,marxist controlled state,where you cant even wipe your own ass without being told how to do it. Vote your totalitarian government out and liberate your self.