Jotul 602 v2 air intake modification for longer burn time
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- Опубліковано 17 лис 2022
- The Jotul 602 v2 adheres to the stricter 2020 EPA emissions standards and for the most part it is still a great wood burner. The only complaint I had was lack of burn time. I would barely get 2 1/2 to 3 hours out of it with my cabin getting way too hot. I am showing you how to fix that in this video.
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I sold the Jotul stoves for years and they are absolutely AMAZING heaters ! I love the little 602 !! I sold quite a few Oslo's and they were very well received. As a matter of fact one of the Oslo's I sold was in the Jotul USA ad. They were the best cast iron stoves I sold.
As far as steel stoves anything made by Travis Industries like the LOPI and AVALON were the most dependable I sold ! I have an Avalon I have been burning hard for over 22-24+ years ! Travis has discontinued the AVALON line but anytime you can but a good used Jotul, Avalon or Lopi you cannot go wrong !
I have the same stove and thanks for the advice. One thing that helped me was installing a damper inside the stove pipe. You can use it to slow down the vacuum your chimney pulls and how fast it draws in the air through the intake. Very helpful on windy days/nights.
Great video. I moved into a place with one of these. Replacing all gaskets. This video let me see the gasket layout. Thanks!
Thanks, now I know why my Section 5.5 Break-in procedure fires were too hot.
Great video! Thank you for showing us exactly how to fix that!
I read in the instruction manual that you are not supposed to gasket the top of the glass to leave a bit of air coming in so it keeps the glass clear. I did this while replacing the gaskets and it seems to work on the 602.
Interesting video in that you have an old and new stove for comparison. I would have liked to see the older stove showing the area you modified. Were the “stops “ present on the old stove?
The old calibrated spin wheel draft was the best.
Oh the old stoves without window and large spin wheel? I never had one of those.
I was thinking even purchasing the Jotul Black Bear stove due to the longer burn time ...yet still has a compact design
After a couple months I noticed my springs loosened up and the air slide closed more completely. Most of the primary combustion air comes through the air wash. I still get a 6-8 hour burn with enough coals to relight without kindling but not much heat coming off the stove the last few hours.
@@offgridsimplicity I bought it in 2019 it’s a 602 CB. I also have the F45 V2.
You should show if there is more soot built up because of the modification. They have stoves that you can turn down and get a clean burn. As long as you are in a certain temperature range. What is the full run time difference with this modification and a full load? If you only get a extra half an hour? Than the mod will be a waste of time. My friend says a extra 45 minutes. I don’t think you get that much. Maybe 30 minutes. What ever makes you happy!!! Good job. Write in the comments so you don’t have to make another video. If it is a huge difference or a extra 30 minutes of burn time. At least on the mild days. You will not have to open a window.
@@offgridsimplicity I have a U.S. stove 1269e. I read or saw a UA-cam video about a mod to increase the burn time. I had to add a gasket to the air intake to block it. They made the stove to burn efficiently. There is no damper. Blocking the air intake produced more soot. Sometimes smothered the fire if it was not hot enough. Also had to keep the door open to get the fire to light properly. I only received a extra 20 minutes to 30 minute burn. I could just burn green wood to get the same results. Good luck with your experiment. If you don’t mind. In the next video. Talk about the difference in the burn time. Compared to before the modification.
@@offgridsimplicity what do you think about this. ua-cam.com/video/myxY0WBa40g/v-deo.html . The way you place your logs in a fire. I tried it and did not notice a difference. Nobody has done a time laps to prove this. There are many people who agree. I disagree. It can also be my stove. In a off-set smoker for bbq. This method works. In a wood stove to heat a house it does not. I also have a few camping stoves. I will make a fire ring outside the tent. Burn the wood I find down to coals. Then use the coals to heat the tent. That is a way to get a longer burn. A lot of wood has to be burned. When in the woods. All you have is wood. LOL
Did u use double insulation pipe?
Good work.
Hot stoves, little heat to the chimney .
@@offgridsimplicity yes less heat up the flue gives the stove more efficiency but there’s a fine line there to maintain proper draft.
@@wobdeehomestead1464 It depends on the insulation of the furnace and also heating of primary and secondary air. This gives you to limit the air and extend the burning length. Which in turn sends less heat to the chimney.
Is that a manufacturing error or by design? I am contemplating buying that burner but I cannot be bothered to rebuild it to make it burn wood less fast.
It's by design. The EPA changed the emissions requirements for residential woodturners on Feb. 03. 2015 and lowered the allowable emissions. All new wood stoves sold in the U.S. have to meet this. Some manufacturers switched to catalytic secondary combustion (bigger stoves), or in case of Jotul 602 they added metal fins to the upper combustion charmer, along with modified air intake, to keep it open more and generate more heat for cleaner combustion. This change resulted in shorter burn times compared to the older units. My modification is technically illegal and violates the latest EPA regulations. It is however legal to just buy an older stove used.
Have you considered the Dovre 45 CBS or a similar mod on the Jøtul? The 45 adds a "second floor" to the model 40, giving a additional 1kW. AFAIK there's no original parts to the Jøtul, and probably a big job to diy this. Ditching the Jøtul 602 in favor of something larger (preferably convection) with catalytic combustion should give you a longer burn.
Also, adding some mass to this little burner might be a bright idea depending on how much effort you're putting into it. Options like water, stone and metal should be viable. Some diyers make a "oil barrel" extended chimney for heat retention, I can't speak to the safety of this mod myself.
Ps: are the Jøtul 602's so available that it's the only Norwegian model that's viable in your area? Quite fascinating to me that these burners are so extremely popular :)! Keep it up!
@@offgridsimplicity The VT casting Aspen has serious QC issues. All the internal draft passages are blocked off with the sealant they use during assembly. Very sloppy work. Take a look at the problem here. ua-cam.com/video/Hy-EAHB1MN4/v-deo.html
It's a baby stove thats why
Don't modify stoves, they are designed not to shut right down to prevent creosote build up and for clean burn even on low.
Yes they burn clean on low setting, that's the whole idea of reducing the emissions and make them compliant. The trade of is shorter burn time.
(Me being funny) It is not a Jodle. It´s a Jøtul :))
😂😂😂 All jotul 602 owners do this.