Mike & Phoebe come back from a few days away to snow at the property and a -2c Tiny House so decide to review their wonderful wood stove, a Jøtul F 602
The 602 is an excellent classic stove. I've got an older one without the glass & round damper vent up front. Hope you you enjoy the 602 in your cabin for years to come. At about 8:48 she said do do 😊
Thank you for sharing. I saw your channel with exploring alternative...started following you when I saw how cute your home is. We are building the same type of home and size in Alberta. Just picked up the Jotul 602 after seeing yours ❤️
Nice cabin...When lighting do you ever get smoke out the secondary air inlet when its cold start/room/chimney and you leave the door open to long? 4:57
Nice videos, thanx! You were saying that your stove is cast iron, with no heat bricks....is there a reason for this choice? Im about to buy a stove and I dont know what type to go for
We have a very similar cabin that we’re building on our property on the Sunshine Coast in BC, (probably not too far as the crow flies from you). Ours is 8x12’ with a wrap-around deck on two sides. We opted for a cubic mini as we didn’t want to use up valuable floor space. We’re now adding a wall tent on another part if our retreat, and are interested in learning where you purchased your wood stove. Also wondering if you could share the floor plan for your cabin (doesn’t have to be to detailed). Cheers, Karen
Wow, you are lucky... mine can't heat a 2 car garage and I was told "no problem". The wood I use is hardwood split down pretty small and I light mine the same way as you do. I also received quite a bit of flack over the way you light the fire. I do mine the same way and the same in the house and I pack it solid with wood, big on the bottom and smaller as you go up... Also, I use the fire starter in the house but in the garage I roll newspaper into a tube then tie it in a knot and make about 5 of them... then poke them into wherever I can get them to fit. Poof the fire lights up every time without fail. I just wished I bought a bigger stove and I just can't get the heat. Great place to stay away from the zombies btw.
Ye, this cabin seems like a tiny half a car garage, though.) Hence the 1 hour heating up, compared to your large garage which might take half a day. Greetings
@@Armstrongifyable I do have a shop heater I can run to lower the time to heat the garage but I am not fond of throwing money to the utility company. I might run the heater for 20-30 minutes and put in a lot of wood to get a good hot fire going. I do like going in the garage at a moment's notice but knowing it might be cold... a person might change his plans... lol
Since your garage is either vaulted or two story that would be ~790-1050 sq. ft., so if you are vaulted you are already basically at the max limit for this stove if it's a full 2 story you are way over.
@@deanwinchester7179 I'm looking at getting some foam board to keep the heat more to the main floor but waiting on the carpenter to fix the mandoor on the garage before that.
@@OnIslandOffGrid No offense taken !! They really did sell themselves. I did not sell a lot of the 602's I sold more of the Oslo's than anything around here. But people were looking for whole house heathers at the time. Jotul is a top quality company . I feel bad for them trying to meet the new EPA demands on the stoves. You can only burn wood so efficiently . Kinda like our new energy saving toaster,it takes over twice as long to make the toast. Ha Ha ha ! You have a great day and keep that 602 as long as you can. It's big brother the 118 is a real monster too. You know about the casting on the side don't you ? It was developed under German occupation during the war and it was a symbol of Norway and it was their way to stick their fingers in the Nazi's eyes !
Whats a typical burn time on them fully stoked. Ive done a few over nights at my cabin and 3 hours seams like a burn out... I was hoping for 5 6 hours so I dont have to get up at 2am and stoke.. I LOVE the stove but I have to figure out the burn time. I think I have a bottom layer of bricks in it and more on the sides then I need idk.. That could reduce the size of my box and thus reduce my stoke.
Is this a dumb question. Well I'll ask.what condensation. Let's say for example I have a self build trailer idea which includes a well built wood stove for heating and some cooking. But I'll have shower/sink area. Living this full time. Just have no idea about condensation. Please be honest don't be all polite if I'm in fantasy land. I really want to know basics. Through your experiences. Thank you for your time.
Joel Webster great questions From 0c to 18c in about an hr. To regulate, we have 11 windows in our tiny house, and 5 of them open ;) we always have one of the upstairs (loft) windows open when we are here for ventilation and sometimes open a main floor window when it gets to hot. This is our only heat source at the moment, we are looking into (planned for when we built) a thermostat controlled direct vent propane heater. It’s on the list, just not high at the moment.
we have a 500sqft cabin we are looking to heat. why did you choose the jotul over a cheaper stove? we were not wanting to spend thousands o a stove (especially a small one) right out the gate. we are building a larger home and a really nice looking efficient stove will be the desire but this is a permanent structure that will only recieve full time use for a season. i really want to go more affordable yet every recommendation is 2k. any suggestions for a budget friendly stove
We went with the Jotel it was something we wanted to look nice in the space and it was the smallest stove we could find that was cast iron and could fit a 16” log
It depends on the type and size of wood used. In winter we try to save the little arbutus we have for overnight as it burns slower then Douglas fir. As the stove is cast iron it stays warm/hot into the morning but as for the fire it’s most times smouldering by the morning. We have a small USB 12v fan in the loft now and that helps keep the heat down below and it stays warmer into the morning.
I've had the same thought about a raised hearth with wood storage underneath for my Jotul I need to install.....would you do that again, raised floor under the stove?
Phoebe and I both said YES! When reading this 😄 we love having the stove a little higher off the floor as it’s a good hight to load, to see the flames and the storage works great for kindling.
Hi Paul, it depends on what you are burning. In the shoulder seasons we try to burn fir and lighter woods as we don’t need to much heat. In the winter we burn a mix of fir and arbutus. With only fir it will burn most of the night but most times be out or smouldering in the morning. With arbutus or hard woods it is something burning 🥵 into the morning. It’s a cast iron stove so it holds the heat so that keeps us warm with windows open all night. We do live on the west coast so we have fairly mild winters compared to central and eastern Canada and US. Hope this answers your question thanks for writing and watching. Looking at make making an update video to this one soon.
Bigger stove is always better. Longer burn time,because the length of fuel and holding capacity,more colective heat sink,more radiant capability. Less time in between refueling.
Verry nice stove in a Great hide-away cabin.
The 602 is an excellent classic stove. I've got an older one without the glass & round damper vent up front. Hope you you enjoy the 602 in your cabin for years to come.
At about 8:48 she said do do 😊
Nice stove - and great to have one that fits 16" logs. That moose chilli looks mighty good!
Just found your channel while looking at stoves for my cabin. Very intriguing place you have and I hope you can make some more videos to share.
Thank you, we did take a long break and are trying to get the videos back. We kept our Instagram going through out
Thank you for sharing. I saw your channel with exploring alternative...started following you when I saw how cute your home is. We are building the same type of home and size in Alberta. Just picked up the Jotul 602 after seeing yours ❤️
Thank you for following us on our journey. We love our tiny and the stove it great 👍 Good luck on your build and stay safe
Hello hope you are doin well. Please share more wood burning and fire place cooking . Cheers
Nice cabin...When lighting do you ever get smoke out the secondary air inlet when its cold start/room/chimney and you leave the door open to long? 4:57
Nice videos, thanx! You were saying that your stove is cast iron, with no heat bricks....is there a reason for this choice? Im about to buy a stove and I dont know what type to go for
We have a very similar cabin that we’re building on our property on the Sunshine Coast in BC, (probably not too far as the crow flies from you). Ours is 8x12’ with a wrap-around deck on two sides. We opted for a cubic mini as we didn’t want to use up valuable floor space. We’re now adding a wall tent on another part if our retreat, and are interested in learning where you purchased your wood stove. Also wondering if you could share the floor plan for your cabin (doesn’t have to be to detailed). Cheers, Karen
Mines a 12×12
Wow, you are lucky... mine can't heat a 2 car garage and I was told "no problem". The wood I use is hardwood split down pretty small and I light mine the same way as you do. I also received quite a bit of flack over the way you light the fire. I do mine the same way and the same in the house and I pack it solid with wood, big on the bottom and smaller as you go up... Also, I use the fire starter in the house but in the garage I roll newspaper into a tube then tie it in a knot and make about 5 of them... then poke them into wherever I can get them to fit. Poof the fire lights up every time without fail. I just wished I bought a bigger stove and I just can't get the heat. Great place to stay away from the zombies btw.
Ye, this cabin seems like a tiny half a car garage, though.) Hence the 1 hour heating up, compared to your large garage which might take half a day. Greetings
@@Armstrongifyable I do have a shop heater I can run to lower the time to heat the garage but I am not fond of throwing money to the utility company. I might run the heater for 20-30 minutes and put in a lot of wood to get a good hot fire going. I do like going in the garage at a moment's notice but knowing it might be cold... a person might change his plans... lol
Since your garage is either vaulted or two story that would be ~790-1050 sq. ft., so if you are vaulted you are already basically at the max limit for this stove if it's a full 2 story you are way over.
@@deanwinchester7179 I'm looking at getting some foam board to keep the heat more to the main floor but waiting on the carpenter to fix the mandoor on the garage before that.
Do you drain the Berkey to prevent freezing?
The 602 is an amazing little stove! I sold a lot of Jotul over the years as a dealer!
We love ours. Not to knock your salesmanship but they must have sold themselves 😁
@@OnIslandOffGrid No offense taken !! They really did sell themselves. I did not sell a lot of the 602's I sold more of the Oslo's than anything around here. But people were looking for whole house heathers at the time.
Jotul is a top quality company .
I feel bad for them trying to meet the new EPA demands on the stoves.
You can only burn wood so efficiently .
Kinda like our new energy saving toaster,it takes over twice as long to make the toast. Ha Ha ha ! You have a great day and keep that 602 as long as you can. It's big brother the 118 is a real monster too.
You know about the casting on the side don't you ? It was developed under German occupation during the war and it was a symbol of Norway and it was their way to stick their fingers in the Nazi's eyes !
Whats a typical burn time on them fully stoked. Ive done a few over nights at my cabin and 3 hours seams like a burn out... I was hoping for 5 6 hours so I dont have to get up at 2am and stoke.. I LOVE the stove but I have to figure out the burn time. I think I have a bottom layer of bricks in it and more on the sides then I need idk.. That could reduce the size of my box and thus reduce my stoke.
I have the same stove in my 600 sq ft log cabin and it does a great job heating the whole place.
It’s a great stove! We will be putting one in any other place we build.
How long will it burn or keep coals thru the night.
Is this a dumb question. Well I'll ask.what condensation. Let's say for example I have a self build trailer idea which includes a well built wood stove for heating and some cooking. But I'll have shower/sink area. Living this full time. Just have no idea about condensation.
Please be honest don't be all polite if I'm in fantasy land. I really want to know basics. Through your experiences. Thank you for your time.
How long does it take to heat up from zero to 17 or 18? Do you have any trouble regulating the heat? Is it your only heat source? It looks awesome!!!
Joel Webster great questions
From 0c to 18c in about an hr. To regulate, we have 11 windows in our tiny house, and 5 of them open ;) we always have one of the upstairs (loft) windows open when we are here for ventilation and sometimes open a main floor window when it gets to hot.
This is our only heat source at the moment, we are looking into (planned for when we built) a thermostat controlled direct vent propane heater. It’s on the list, just not high at the moment.
How has the metal roofing held up with the heat? Wonder how the paint is
After 4+ years of having it up it’s still looking great except for a little dust
Phoebe are you an engineer? You sound very smart.
we have a 500sqft cabin we are looking to heat. why did you choose the jotul over a cheaper stove? we were not wanting to spend thousands o a stove (especially a small one) right out the gate. we are building a larger home and a really nice looking efficient stove will be the desire but this is a permanent structure that will only recieve full time use for a season. i really want to go more affordable yet every recommendation is 2k. any suggestions for a budget friendly stove
We went with the Jotel it was something we wanted to look nice in the space and it was the smallest stove we could find that was cast iron and could fit a 16” log
How long does it burn? Will it still have coals in the morning?
It depends on the type and size of wood used. In winter we try to save the little arbutus we have for overnight as it burns slower then Douglas fir. As the stove is cast iron it stays warm/hot into the morning but as for the fire it’s most times smouldering by the morning. We have a small USB 12v fan in the loft now and that helps keep the heat down below and it stays warmer into the morning.
I've had the same thought about a raised hearth with wood storage underneath for my Jotul I need to install.....would you do that again, raised floor under the stove?
Phoebe and I both said YES! When reading this 😄 we love having the stove a little higher off the floor as it’s a good hight to load, to see the flames and the storage works great for kindling.
How are the burn times?
Hi Paul, it depends on what you are burning. In the shoulder seasons we try to burn fir and lighter woods as we don’t need to much heat. In the winter we burn a mix of fir and arbutus. With only fir it will burn most of the night but most times be out or smouldering in the morning. With arbutus or hard woods it is something burning 🥵 into the morning. It’s a cast iron stove so it holds the heat so that keeps us warm with windows open all night. We do live on the west coast so we have fairly mild winters compared to central and eastern Canada and US. Hope this answers your question thanks for writing and watching. Looking at make making an update video to this one soon.
Price?
It was 4 years ago but I believe $1400 Canadian
Bigger stove is always better. Longer burn time,because the length of fuel and holding capacity,more colective heat sink,more radiant capability. Less time in between refueling.