Playing the Playstation 5 and Xbox Series X on a CRT | Next-Gen 4K Raytracing on an Analog Tube!
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Today we're blending old with new by hooking up the next generation consoles (Playstation 5 and Xbox Series X) to a CRT TV! This is the BVM D24 running the new Xbox and Playstation hardware at 720p in full analog glory!
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Resolution: buttery smooth
Refresh rate: buttery smooth
Input lag: buttery smooth
Color: Buttery smooth
Motion blur: buttery smooth
Screen taste: buttery smooth
Since we're talking about crts what's an input lag?💪
@@mrbungle589 talking D-crt, or A-Crt? A-Crt -< 1 frame. D-Crt-> 1-2 frames.
Lcd= min> 10 frames😗
The thing that I've always loved about CRTs is the improved sense of depth you get. I'm not exactly sure why it always strikes me as such, but it's more like looking through a window than LCD panels are. I hope I can afford to buy a decent one by the time I have enough space to set it up properly.
I think its because they dont use pixels. It creates this more "real" look to it plus the amazing contrast and the motion response.
@@masterodst1 It could also be because the tube itself is designed so the image is cast onto the large glass bulb that we see, but there is space between that and the electron gun, so behind the glass there is empty space, so some find that looking into a crt gives a better sense of depth, because behind the glass is literally empty space
@@GORF-wb4gl thats a really good point
I think it could be due to the increased motion resolution. Things are just so clear in motion, so it's like looking through a window.
I used to have one but it was a old one and it wasn't hd it was standard definition but it was good before I got a flat screen I used my xbox 360 on the SD CRT and it was fun played red dead 1 on it
Even at 120hrtz or 244 hrtz the screen will blur when there is any movement. A CRT image will remain far more clear and blur free even at 60fps.
Not on a Plasma :)
@@DarkLinkAD my dad had mine destroyed against my wishes ;(
don't even know what one it was except that it was a Panasonic from ~2005/6, 1080i (or, it ran game consoles in that resolution at least), cropped the screen unless you adjusted it, and made a deep-pitched buzzing noise when it was on.
@@DarkLinkADplasma is ass for gaming, highest input lag there is
@@uhMaxxI have 2 plasma TVs, one from Samsung and one from Panasonic... And the Samsung one, for example, has a 16ms response time... it's a great response time. and plasma doesn't have blur in the image like LCD, LED... plasma is magnificent with games, the black level is excellent... the colors are more real.
@@DarkLinkADYes plasma is magnificent with games
Awesome to see that BVM really pushing the limits in 2021! Thanks for letting me see it again, and thanks for the great CRT coverage Stream Professor.
Do not forget input lag. Man literally playing online on a CRT it's the best choice ever
I used to have a flat screen Sony CRT that would do 1080i and 720p. It was glorious and I miss it. Such a sharp picture
if you can afford the space consumption of a Sony HDCRT why not get one for less than 100 USD if even possible and if it is in a bad internal shape flip it on one of the marketplaces for the same amount? 17" VGA could be something for you because the cheap VGA to Scart and wise versa adapters actually work but are limited to NTSC or PAL depending on where you order it e.g. UK or US. Also Delock sells the best VGA adapters for DP TO VGA on PC
Got a bit nostalgic when I saw this. I miss those CRTs especially for the colors. Yes, modern panels with HDR support can look really good. But there is something about old TVs and monitors that can’t be replicated by modern LCD displays. It’s like old film against modern digital photo and video. I have always the feeling that the old method produced much better life like colors. Or I’m just getting old :D
@@davexmit I had the same experience when I bought my first LCD. The resolution was the only thing that was really fun about it, but the rest was a huge disappointment.
A mix between the two technologies would have been nice. Unfortunately only a few companies produced this kind of TV. I remember that a friend of mine had a HD CRT from the German brand Loewe. But they discontinued it when LCD television from Samsung and such became a thing.
@@stephanort3628 There was a mix, they are called plasma televisions.
@@badreality2 yes, plasma televisions produced great colors, but there was always the problem with the low brightness and often also with dead pixels after a while.
@@davexmit Yeah I remember comparing my non HD (but capable of progresive scan 480p/ and had RGB scart inputs) Sony Triniton 32" flatscreen CRT TV to my first full HD LCD and was so underwhelmed lol, 1080p may have looked focused and sharp, but 480p on the CRT looked much nicer with proper blacks and true colors that poped of the screen, nothing beat that T.V for gaming, even the 360 looked great on it but I gave in to a IPS LG 48" in the end and sold the Sony, shame as I didn't realise how usefull the CRT would be for PS2/GC/DC/XBOX/N64/etc. I've made do with emulation since then, untill recently I picked up a beautiful as new Hyundai Image Quest CRT VGA monitor and I can't believe how good it looks with everthing from SNES/MD with nice juicy scanlines or GameCube on dolphin running @ 1600x1200p looks jaw droping, as does modern games, Indies like Steamworld DIG 1&2 look incredible, Shovel Knight. Playing Doom 3 @ 120Hz with no lag or motion blur what so ever just can't be beaten.
A high resolution/Hz CRT monitor actually feels like something that was just released, cutting edge almost, because I'm used to my 32" 144Hz G-Sync gaming LCD which not only looks terrible and flat comaped to the almost 3 dimensional image the CRT produces everything I play on the LCD feels sluggish and unreponsive, if you don't want to spoil your enjoyment from your modern LCD monitor I'd stay away from using a good CRT, I can't seem to go back to the LCD now, if only I could get a 32" HD CRT monitor I would be set. I know OLED is supposed to finaly entering the monitor market with 27/32" panels, but it's going to be a good couple of years before we see a 32" 120Hz OLED monitor under the £$800 mark, and even then OLED still have the motion blur and a fixed native resolution, allthough I'm sure they are working on imroving the motion resolution of OLED, I doubt it will ever match CRT though, but as long as it gets close that will be good enough.
Especially OLEDs although they're getting better are often oversaturated and don't display natural colors. That's why I still have a Plasma TV from Samsung and I'm going to buy a later model of Panasonic soon. I can only advise everyone to at least try a Plasma. The colors and the blacks will blow you away.
CRT was and is still great technology.
I had a really high end RP CRT, and it was absolutely great at gaming in the PS3 era!
Rear projection does have burn in and bad quality I heard
@@ManOfAttitudeLP1998 I never had any burn in, but burn in was true of all CRTs. The problem with RP, was that low quality ones could never get their 3 guns to line up across the whole screen
@@EnigmaZV ah yeah
Were there 1080i capable ones?
@@ManOfAttitudeLP1998 Mine was 1080i
Videos like this make me want to start using my Samsung HD CRT again. So heavy it just sits behind my UHD tv
omg, we've gone back in time.
goodbye forever, old studio 💜💜💜
One thing I notice is that these games look less plastic like on these crts
I’m only a third of the way watching the video but I’m super glad you uploaded this one, stream professor! Always excited to see how the new consoles run on CRTs :)
you hve one crt?
I have two LG 2019 OLEDs a 55 inch and 77inch. I left some helpful guides on my youtube channel for whenever you get the sets. I came from crt to plasma and now to oled. I still have my Plasma's in the house but no longer my crt. I wish I could go find one to have just because the motion is supposed to be the best but plasma was damn damn close and my OLED's using Black Frame Insertion or 120hz locked make come VERY close. So close that I'm satisfied. Anyway cheers man. Keep showing off new games on the old CRT's. I'mma get one eventually lol.
Wouldnt a crt tube be absolutely amazing in combination with emulation to get that retro feeling AND possible upgrades? I imagine GameCube games at 4k with high res textures behind a crt would look out of this world and still retro at the same time.
Ehhhh only kinda. IMO in most cases, pushing games past where they were meant in emulators just looks wrong and often really bad
@@EposVox GameCube at native 480p on my PC CRT monitor looks significantly better than playing it at 1600x1200 over Dolphin on it.
Maybe it's just the appeal of slight 480p scanlines on it but at higher resolutions older games tend to show the stuff that was supposed to be somewhat hidden by video quality
I'd say take a 360 game output it at 4k on the emulator and display it on a hd crt with the pc outputting at 720p it would look great
So I have 5 crt monitors ranging from dell, e machines to Samsung and I LITERALLY TRIED EVERYTHING on ps4 pro to get output. When it works it would work for every 10 mins or 5 mins then it would flash and go black fire like 3 seconds. I am so happy to see you do this on new Gen. I think the lower wattage on old Gen like the ps4 and pro can’t handle it. On Xbox one original it runs without any flashes. So happy to see someone use a crt again!
Dont forget.
The feeling of depth.
I bring it up every time :)
We need a modern version of the CRT with improved tech.
Even just bring back old good crts would be good, like a 24" there were ine that could do like 200hz and still at a decent res like 1600x900 or something like that
There is. Prysm LPD monitors.
I am still using a Sony Trinitron as my TV and a CRT screen on my PC as well, both running with 100 Hz (I also have a 27" 1440p 144 Hz Acer IPS monitor for playing shooters on the PC, though). I just enjoy the CRT image so much, it's crisp and it has no input lag and none of all those downsides that LCD screens and their technologies have. I am still waiting for a proper successor to the CRT technology because LCD certainly ain't it.
So HD CRT TV’s can go beyond 60hz? (I am planing on getting one, and a lot of people say that HD CRT TV’s are capped at 720p60hz)
I bet you hate Acer and the IPS after this.
@@alpzepta Actually I don't, it does very well for shooters - except that mine has no anti-motion blur technology, which takes some getting used to. My next IPS monitor needs to have that technology and it needs to work well.
@@MrReese Plasma is the closest thing to CRT really.
@@DarkLinkAD Yeah, for normal TV at least. My CRT has died since I made the comment and I am only using my 1440p 144 Hz Acer IPS screen by now and am quite happy with it with 125 % scaling, especially since many things don't work too well on 4:3 aspect ratio anymore.
Can I just say as someone who happens to have a vision problem on top of someone who also speed runs video games both modern and retro having my CRT is a must. Look I get it modern TVs can look better but the biggest problem is that the input delay does end up being more noticeable due to having a vision problem. Look it's more about adjusting your timing with what you see on top of the difference in screen resolution which drastically can change the sizes of how things appear (It's one of the huge reasons I hate Sony not letting me have access to all of my Vita games on my PSTV due to how small the text in games ends up being and zooming in prevents you from getting the full experience without constantly moving things.)
But yeah I've got to say I am proud to use my CRT, despite it not being the best whenever I can so I can actually accommodate for my eyesight problems.
No display technology can match a top end CRT monitor for image quality, OLED gets very close in some areas, and if you want 55" or more it deffinitly wins in that regard but otherise CRT can't be beaten. I'll take a 19" or 21" CRT over a 65" LCD anyday, maybe not OLED though, for modern consoles a big OLED is the way to go if you have the money. That said a VGA CRT monitor is a great option if you won't/can't spend more than a couple hundred on a gaming display as a good one 19" CRT monitor looks sublime with modern games, or a 21", 16:9 looks fine on a 4:3, although I prefer 4:3 when possible which sadly is less and less in modern titles.
CRTs were so good! great video!
I love the zero motion blur of CRT's. When playing 60hz content I always try to get it on a CRT if I can as motion blur gives me eye strain. I own 3 CRT's at the moment. I also own a bunch of plasma TVs and I use a 240hz gaming monitor. I like as little motion blur as possible in everything I do. I even bought a 120hz OLED phone:)
I hate motion blur it hurts my eyes might get a hd crt I use a 1080p smart TV for bedroom might get a 1080i hd crt for my gaming room for the vibrant colors because it looks gorgeous
@@user-xboxdude8900 I have an HD CRT in my bedroom right now:) Motion blur really is a killer and I can't stand it.
if you could recommend an affordable one which would you ?
I know you’re running a 16:9 CRT, but one nice thing about the Switch is that if you set the output to 480p, you get native 4:3 output via the dock. I’ve a 4:3 CRT (as retro 4:3 content on a widescreen CRT doesn’t look ideal to me), and it looks excellent. Not sure what other HDMI-enabled consoles also support this (4:3 on 480p)?
Wait really?? I did not know this!
The 360 and ps3 support it, but anything newer only supports 480p to give you an error lol
@@EposVox I don't currently have my Switch hooked up to my HDMI-to-component converter, but pretty sure 480p gives you native 4:3, whereas higher resolutions are widescreen. Not sure your use-case warrants it (given you've a 16:9 CRT that can process higher resolution content), but it's really nice on 4:3 HD CRTs (and easier to further downscale to 240p if you wanted to get scanlines).
I haven't tried my 360 or PS3 into my CRT yet. Don't have the HDMI-to-component converter currently hooked up as I found mine really susceptible to wavey video noise (probably power-related). I *was* going to buy the one you/RetroRGB mentions, but some of the Amazon comments said it doesn't handle 1080p/i (despite advertising it does: www.amazon.co.uk/gp/customer-reviews/R39RTVY3IDOVJS/ref=cm_cr_getr_d_rvw_ttl?ie=UTF8&ASIN=B00A8FIQXA).
Something kind of funny, but my mom had one of those Trinitrons that ACTUALLY had an HDMI port on the back of it, though it had NO support for 720p (just 480i, 480p and 1080i); and when I would use my PS3 it would have the black bars on the top and bottom of the screen with 1080i content, and with any games that would not support anything BUT 720p, parts of the game were completely cut off which made the experience very bad. The TV eventually burned out because of all the resolution switching I did with it XD.
If i didnt knew that it was a game, many of those images i would have really confuse them for live footage, damn i really love crts picture quality
I use a Compaq MV720 for gaming. Love it. Even started using custom resolutions to push it to 4k. Such a beautiful image
Been playing switch on a crt monitor. “1080p” and then I got it fit the screen properly. It is a 1280x1024 5:4 aspect and I dig it more than the widescreen 16:9. It accepts a 1080p signal from the switch and looks amazing. Best $15 I ever spent.
Damn dude I would kill for a 16:9 BVM. That's nice as hell it must've taken forever to find something like that. Also I totally know what you mean about being at a disadvantage using a smaller CRT then a larger LCD. I was playing Destiny 2 on my ViewSonic A90-2 CRT and even though it looked incredible at 720p 120hz the game doesn't support 4:3 and puts black bars on the screen making the image even smaller. Tracking enemies in pvp was much harder and I ended up just switching back to my Asus VG27AQ for that game but I finished Cyberpunk on the CRT at 1600x1200 maxed settings with ray tracing and my god was it gorgeous plus the game supports 4:3 so you can use the entire screen space available. Graphically intense gorgeous slower paced games are what I play on the CRT now. A lot of those games (like red dead redemption 2) benefit so much more from cranking up the settings then they do by cranking up the resolution and with the black levels and colors of the CRT I honestly feel that LCDs still can't compete with the CRTs when it comes to just a quality image (although OLED is a different story). I think 4k is a waste of GPU resources and playing at a lower pixel perfect resolution with higher ingame settings is where it's at. 1080p and 1440p are more then enough pixels to get an amazing image.
Someone was telling me that these tvs did high resolutions with no slow down. That's crazy. I wonder why they didnt let regular consumer models do that. I would love to see this in person.
this might sound kinda weird but i saw ur amazon review and it’s cool to see that you doubled ur subscribers since you’ve made the clock review
The main thing I miss about the CRT days is the lighting. Things glowed in a way that just doesn't happen on modern displays, even my very expensive oled gaming monitor can't duplicate that glow. I mean I'm not giving up 4k 240hz and 32" for an old crt but damn, that glow. :)
Yesss
There were CRT monitors with a maximum resolution of 2560x1920 (Quad HD; 4:3 Aspect Ratio) They were very expensive, but they could run at 1920x1440 at a refresh rate of 120 hertz.
back in 2001, there was a 4K monitor from IBM. Sony and Dell had also a 2K monitors. Lot of them had 120Hz or even 160Hz.
The Problem is, the became rare and expensive AF
Imagine more of those were made... maybe not big enough to watch movies on, but it'd be damn grouse for video games.
damn you! you made me dig out my GDM-FW900
T_T
man, flexing with a BVM playing COD sound awkward in the best way and me with an NEC 20" VGA monitor.... I want both, replace my old BenQ TN with a 20" JVC or Ikegami 16:9 then next to it on the right my NEC 20" 1440p and lastly my OEV 143.
What exact model is this I want one it’s so dope. Great vid!
Played my PS5 on a Toshiba CRT that has component but is only 480i - the main screen doesn't look great but once you get into the games they look surprisingly well, as long as you don't have to read any text as its super tiny but worked better than expected - anything 360/PS3 and below seem to be fantastic as well
Happy new year professor, I hope all your dreams comes true.
I enjoyed it looks cool on those old beasts. It;s so cool it works great.
I just got a Panasonic CT-34WX15N HD CRT that does 480p/1080i, should I set my HD consoles to 480p or display them at 1080i? I don't usually like interlaced flicker but is it better then a 480p single?
I’d be really interested to see a 4K blu ray on a crt. Lag not an issue but getting to analog possibly. Just has a different look and scaled down should be great
Just use a non upscale component. Feed it to a blu ray player or something that can utilize blu ray.
I hate to be "that guy" but you don't need 120hz when using a CRT. You aren't missing out on ANYTHING. The whole reason high refresh rate exists on LCD monitors is due to the inherent issues with LCD as a technology. Mainly the slow ass speed. I guarantee you, a 60hz CRT next to a 120hz LCD, everyone will prefer the 60hz CRT regardless of the type of game you would play. It would feel smoother even though its less refresh rate.
The two main things high refresh is used to mitigate, is smoothness of the image and motion blur. The higher the refresh rate, the less motion blur you have. This is why 240hz gaming monitors are a thing. And why they now push 360hz gaming monitors. Even my TN panel Alienware 1080p240hz gaming monitor. 240hz is incredibly smooth compared to my Samsung VA panel which is only 144hz. You can tell the difference especially side by side. Now some might argue that TN pixel response is faster than VA, but pixel response generally doesn't relate to smoothness of refresh rate. BUT, both the VA and TN are rated 1ms grey to grey, if you even believe those ratings. Therefore they should be performing the same. And yet, the 240hz is smoother and has less motion blur than the 1440p144hz.... some might argue resolution and "your gpu might not be able to handle it" except I am rocking a 3950x with a 3090.... its not an issue for either resolution. I can even play some games in 8k granted around 30-60fps depending on title, older games more fps is capable.
So at the end of the day, a 60hz CRT will make you an FPS god. I remember when people were switching to from CRT to LCD. I didn't. I stayed on CRT and those people seemed to start playing worse (due to response times). Only when WIDESCREEN became a common thing for a cheap fair price, did I switch to LCD. And it was a 16:10 Acer monitor. Yeah, took me a long time to upgrade. And honestly the REAL reason I upgraded was my CRT died and we didn't have any repair shops that knew how to work on cathode displays....
Honestly if I was a company like ASUS with money to spend and "waste" in some peoples viewpoint. I would get my employees trained and such to develop a new age CRT monitor.... smaller footprint, lightweight, and yet still have that insane speed. Possibly shoot for widescreen format. And if light enough, VESA mountable. It has to be possible. Technology gets better and smaller. The "brain board" that runs these CRT displays could EASILY be made super tiny. Like raspberry pi small. WE have that kind of technology. Hell, look up the people taking old retro consoles and making new boards much much smaller with newer technology. Its insane how small they can make it compared to the original size....
I mean, I play at 120hz on PC CRT monitors all the time and it’s definitely better. And most ran at 75hz by default back in the day.
CRTs are illegal to make due to the environmental issues in both manufacturing and usage of them, not to mention our complete inability to safely dispose of them. The PCBs in them are hardly a concern, it’s the tubes themselves that are the issue.
You also can’t make them lightweight, because all that weight is in the tube. What you’ve described is basically an OLED, there’s nothing about what a CRT literally is: a cathode ray tube, that can be made smaller or lighter weight.
LCDs are finally catching up in terms of latency and responsiveness and game engines are finally working on improving their latency time too, as they’re just as impactful as display if not more. We’re getting there.
I love my CRTs for the look and flexibility in formats, but in terms of in-game advantage, we’re finally reaching the point that they’re not needed anymore.
The thing that ALWAY bugged me about modern flatscreens is the horrendous motion blur, no matter how good the screen, you always had smearing the second you moved your mouse.
The only thing that came close to a CRT was a 1080p TN BenQ with built-in Strobed Backlight and Black Frame Insertion, you could move your mouse at light speed and still see read the window you dragged across the screen. There was only a bit much crosstalk between the frames, but the colors... dear god the colors on that thing were the ABSOLUTE WORST I had ever seen and not because the panel sucked, but because BenQ decided to use a "1337 GAM0R" setup, you couldnt even fucking turn off...
Plasma.. Plasma defeated this but its too expensive to produce. Heavy to.
@@DarkLinkAD Plasma was a great technoloy, but sadly the burn in problems proofed to be unsolveable.
Laser TVs could have been interesting, but the only company researching the tech stopped.
@@xXYannuschXx Nah, they were solved. Mines not even the best at preventing burn in but Ive had it going 24/7 since about 2012. No burn in issues at all. Its only been turned off when I moved about 4 times.
Id say that the brightness standards for all TVs back then were pretty low, it does well enough but some of these new TVs can light an entire room on its own at night, ive actually turned the lighting down on some new TVs.
If you find yourself an old busted FW-900 you could put your D24's tube in it and get 2560x1600 60hz out of it.
Great video! Both your setup and room in general and gameplay looks really sweet!
What an amazing video! Is it possible to get 120hz on the Xbox series x on a crt monitor with 1080p or 720p would it have to be the native resolution to work?
Oh man, I really wish I have one of this analog monitors 🤩 They were amazing 🥰 Hope, you use it wisely 😉
Isn't there a slight delay from the digital to analog conversion compared to pure analog out like VGA/DVI-I/DVI-A?
Nope. They're simply transcoders. I use a Tendak HDMI to VGA for my OSSC and my timesleuth still reports sub millisecond just as it would to my Trinitron TV's component input directly. A good DAC does not do any post-processing.
That looks amazing sadly I've done some research and apparently we barely have any hd crt's in europe.
I picked up an 36xbr400, 36jvc260 sd, and an 34xbr970. The xbr970 isn't in great condition tho. I need another one while I work on it. Im trying hunt down a xbr800 but it's across Country.
Underrated!
Is there a way to do this with a consumer-grade CRT that can display 240p/480i?
The only way I'm aware of is through the Retrotink 5X's downscaling function, but if I remember correctly, the highest resolution the 5X can downscale is 480p (not 720P) so the newest console that would be displayed on a CRT in this way would be a base-model PS4 (I don't think the PS4 Pro can output 480P)
5X can downscale to 240p
@@EposVox But not from 720p unless I’m mistaken?
But what about text?. I remember text being a problem with these TV back when we made the transition. I remember Banjo Kazooie nuts and bolts releasing a patch for CRT tvs that made text bigger because the text was unreadable on those old tvs.
What conversion hardware are you using please. Have a two trinitrotoluene CRTs here and my wide screen never gets a look in.
i wonder if this would be solid for modern fighting games we dont need to make out much. I know sf3 players use it
Sir, can I please ask for some assistance? I’ve been messing around a lot trying to capture footage from god-tier HD CRT - any tips re camera settings? Have a Panasonic S5, if that matters. Cheers mate, love the channel and content!
CRT is life !
Looks incredible!
I want to try something similar on a standard consumer CRT @ Pal 576i have got the porta with the resolution downscaling to the run HDMI to component through to the retro tink Comp2RGB on order due to arrive next month. Now hearing you say the downscaler has lag. Are we talking super crazy? It's gonna run a switch at 720 to 576i or perhaps... 480p/60hz to 480i/60hz, which I'll workout once I have the tinker.
Will it be a problem for Mario Kart, Mario Land and Odyssey? As these will be the kind of titles being played?
Note you can emulate ps2, gamecube and others on Xbox series consoles too
Yeah but I’m gunna play those on the real thing
crtv is still way ahead than oleds in term of gaming quality and response time i get usually get 60 fps boost in games like cs go and valorant etc and over 20 to 40 fps boost in other games such as rdr 2 and death stranding and days gone pc damn those graphics with smooth edges even on lowest resolution with higher refresh rate really gives you boost and i have a sony crtv 20inch
What if you played in 4:3 stretch to fit screen for bigger targets at a lower resolution like the fortnite guys do on pc sometimes?
Modern consoles don’t support 4:3 lol
@@EposVox your right, I'm thinking of how I can display 4:3 on my monitor with the console, but that's thru the monitor settings.
50 dislikes from 4k noobs, dam........ truth hurts theim.
If you can genuinely win with twitches... Power to the player
Hoy do you conect ps5 to crt? What kind of converter?
Will Durabrand or Symphonic or Funai CRT TV will look just as good?
CRT... 🐐
want to play old 4:3 games for PC, without the lag and with better looks, as they were originally designed for CRT. My GPU only supports displayport/hdmi. With a converter to analog, will i lose most of the benefit of a BVM CRT for FPS games?
I am on the lookout for a HD CRT - as long as i play in the native resolution of the TV do i need to worry about input lag?
Most HD CRTs will still have a fair bit of lag yeah
welp time to convert to crts
Hello game ps4 on a CRT TV and let me choose the resolution up to 1080p do you advise me to put it at 720p?
are the in-game texts readable?🤔 i have an old 480i (not sure) Crt tv and plan to use with a ps4
Yep!
Where did u get the monitor from?
Wait, WHAT? I can play an Xbox 360 game on an Xbox Series X Console? Someone please confirm.
Yes? Their backwards compatibility work has been a huge deal for years now
It's backwards compatible with even the original xbox
makes me miss my old crt i kept that bad boy a long time but now i think not long enough ;/ although at the price of another one may as well go oled its the closest probably going to get oh well goodbye sony crt
more realistic efect ;)
Reject modernity, embrace scan lines.
Why am I just finding this channel ❓
UA-cam works in mysterious ways
Yo, its me again! So I've progressed a bit with the videography skills, still haven't been able to get CRT footage that I'm happy with, but I'm close. I've been looking into filters, wondering if something like a polariser would help reduce screen glare. Did you use any filters when shooting this?
It can help, but it won’t outright eliminate lights shining directly on it. Best “filter” there is to just get a big towel or throw cover and block out any light on the screen side of the TV. Only have lights on behind it
@@EposVox Oh sweet, thanks mate. Might see what I can achieve just using my LED lamp from on my work bench. Potential issue in that we have 50hz electricity and I'm recording at 60fps, but that doesn't seem like a hard solve anyway.
@@EposVox I done some backlighting and it worked pretty well. About to record footage of a bunch of games. Ya know what's really annoying? Panasonic v-log was giving me nightmares trying to get accurate colour in Resolve. So I got an external monitor that does RAW and now all it takes is raising shadows and the footage is looking excellent. No curves needed touching or anything (I mean, unless I was going for actually accurate accuracy). Anyway, dude I know you got better things to do but this is exciting and ya channel inspires me, so thanks again mate!
@@b0nz0beavis Glad you got it going!
Whare can i buy a crt monitor
Facebook marketplace and Craig's list is best bet
But... how do you keep a full analog line between the BVM and the console?
Modern consoles don't output analog video, so you can't have a fully analog connection lol
@@EposVox I know I thought that's what you said on the video. What kind of cable connection was used then?
Yo bro how did you get your pc on a bvm I need answers
The lag free hdmi to component box I mentioned in the video and linked in the description lol
Will the Xbox Series do 480i? Looking to try this on an old Trinitron that maxes out at 240p/480i. Thanks
No, it cannot. Won’t even manually do 480p
does the xbox series x understand the concept of love?
crts are too heavy and arent as great as some people claim. but if its all you can get cool
Was wondering what refresh rate you can set this monitor to on a pc?
It only does 50 and 60hz
It's really cool but I just don't see myself scoring a monitor good enough for this. Right now I have a consumer grade Sony trinitron, a pristine jvc d series and a sony pvm 2030. I hooked up my series x to the trinitron and jvc and it looks pretty awful. Really only Capcom arcade looks great everthing else nope.
I'm just not about to spend $4-6k just to screw around on it for lols. I'd still rather play the new consoles on my 75 Qled. If I could snag one of these for like $2k then it would be a different story.
What is your setup to the CRT?, composite is terrible, and some games don't look good in low resolutions. A PC CRT is better in this case.
Could you theoretically get more fps in games with no fps cap at 720p? Maybe rainbow six or the Witcher?
seems to me the only thing better than crts are oleds.
ive personally always thought regular lcd/led sucked even at 4k, my 1080p 144hz monitor has a crisper image.
One advantage is no input lag
what about oled ? i heard they have very low input lag and also looks super?
It’s almost as if I tease that in this very video
acording wtith the speed of light, it is 0ms ,the plasma tv has 0,001ms, crt is the king of speed.
The fact that there's a lot of CRT Scrappers on UA-cam and the viewers are getting influenced by it makes me sick
Scrappers?
I have a tv with hdmi. My Xbox series x can output 1080p, but i need 1080i. So i used 720p. This worked great, but i wanted the 1080i - so i ordered a hdmi to scart adapter. This won't work, even in 640p the pic looks blurry and i guess because of the xbox 60hz anf the scart 50hz that's the reason why it's laggy now...
Somebody has an idea how to get the new xbox series x to scart with 1080i and with no lag? I want to try the 100hz mode on the crt.
Why do you need SCART? The Xbox can output 1080i
Yes...no... It can 1080p not 1080i :)
I know it seems like i want this reasonless, but it ain't :)
Maybe to mention it, Xbox Series X/S is my system :)
I can output 1080i from Xbox Series X. I use it to test capture cards.
Wtf how, is it country locked or insider locked?
I only can choose 4k, 1440p, 1080p, 720p, and with changing from automatic to hdmi/dvi also 640p...
I like the Xbox better this Gen.
The only thing that I remembered from childhood and CRTs is that snow in games like Call of Duty 1 and especially the addon United Offensive was impressively deep. The best game for me is still Medal of Honour on medium difficulty for spearhead and main game can be played on hard but already looses some fun.
Next thing I remember is Serious Sam on Xbox and it is just mind-blowingly good --- RANT TIME --- Croteam is dead. They ruined Serious Sam 2 with its update adding dual wielding for any weapon and making the UZI from sounding bad, to still sound bad but shoot quicker than the Minigun. The tesla gun is bad too because it ruins the perfect balancing with the boring enemy spawns which still make sense for a game made for younger audiences and perfectly right in lore topics (enemies get spawned in since the first SS game). SS4 is just bad and wants you to stay put in the middle of the arena in the whole game or enemies spawn in T-Pose inside you and kamikazes explode -- rant over --
Addition:
You mentioned Optical port hahahaha (heavy breathing) The only port that has neutral sound without any strange things like different mainboards make USB dacs sound different or YOU JUST BOUGHT an expensive mainboard but sounds awful or and HDMI audio return channel is expensive in some cases if you dont own a TV with the ports you need for audio. I actually have no device that has useful audio ports if I want a PS5 or series x and everything PS1, PS2, PS3 and Switch is routed into the Line-in which is the only good sounding port with maybe mic in that can add audio into my high end headphone setup.
Interesanti
We supposed to believe you had "a lot of fun" playing godfall? Lol
I’m only a couple hours in (if that) but have yet to see what the gate is about
4:14 if you are tunning it at 30fps, I'd say just go with 1080i to get more overall resolution. For 60fps, of course, 720p ftw.
Eh I’ve never liked 1080i. I don’t like interlacing flicker and realistically you’re only getting 540 vertical lines anyway
@@EposVox I find the flicker less annoying in 1080i than 480i, since the lines are so much closer together.
If the game is updating at only 30fps, you get to see 1080 horizontal lines per frame, just not all at the same time.
Since you have the hardware, have you considered doing a video like this testing how much you can push 480i on a classic trinitron tv? I've seen another guy testing 240p and text quickly became an issue.
I always hated interlaced its just bad
@@EnormeEkoH Did you see it on an hd crt?
@@SalveMonesvol nope like an old flat tv if im not wrong, i dont rememb
CRT always better one
no thanks, i'll just play on my giant oled
There should be a gigantic class action suit aginst all makers of LCD / OLED brand makers, for making shoddy quality products over the years that does not last. On a CRT you could run at any resolution, you were not limited to NATIVE resolution to get the best quality. TRUE blacks, no lag, great colours and crazy brightness. OLED is the worst garbage people can buy, it does not last !!! colours shift over the years, OLED is worst than LED, etc. so yeah nothing beats CRT
CRTs had terrible blacks and suffer from burn in too.
@@dat_21 I could believe the burn in part but "Terrible Blacks"?
Now your just talking nonsense...
@@saulgoodman9278 They did indeed have terrible blacks under any kind of external light. Also, white parts of the picture glow and make blacks greyish. In real life CRTs don't have great blacks at all.
@@dat_21LOL ok bud you keep believing that shite
My Plasma has pretty much been on 24/7 since 2011. I bought an LCD a couple years ago, it shattered the screen from the most minor impact, it fell forward on carpet.. whilist sitting on carpet..... Meanwhile the Plasmas seen 4 road trips, one of them 1200miles in the back of a UHaul.
Can I play ps5 on a 2k tv
Depends on what you mean by “2k” since there are no 2048x1080 TVs. If you mean 1080p, yes. I’d you mean 1440p, then yes but it will only run at 1080p so might be blurrier or more laggy