The only FPV beginners guide you need
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- Опубліковано 5 чер 2024
- Getting into FPV is hard and this video about what I might have done differently
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- Ummagawd Botgrinder Demibot
- Hypetrain PDEVX 2306.5 1985KV Motors
- Foxeer F7 MPU6000
- HDzero VTX
- ELRS
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I logged into Facebook once and my computer caught fire.
That's because your computer caught the digital equivalent of gonorrea.
If someone wants to get into fpv and asks me, i would tell him to get an avata. he'll be in the air the next day wooshing around with his motion controller. he'll have a great time and he'll fly that for a while and then one of two things will happen, he will get bored and move on, or he will buy the dji controller rc2 rc3 whatever it is and he will start flying with a proper controller. then he will bash the damn thing a few times too many and realise that if he wants to keep flying he needs to learn to build and repair his own stuff. this is the man that needs your advice. someone who has some experience of flying and knows what his flying needs are at that moment. we got into fpv the hard way and somehow our desire to fly and to geek out on this whole topic kept us engaged long enough to overcome, but these days there are easier ways with much less crying involved and we can welcome more people in this great hobby.
This is the Way
100%, the Avata gets so much hate but really is a great beginner drone as well as many other use cases.
Yup I start a lot of people on the Avata. Safe way for a complete noob to start flying FPV. Has a natural progression to acro flight built in. It is just expensive for some people to buy an Avata first.
I love that you're alone under a bridge recording yourself and STILL *whispering* that you should buy rotor riot motors.
I wish the Zorro had better battery life. When you're at the very very very beginning stages, if money isn't too tight, I'd say fly a bind n' fly WHILE you build. Because there's a possibility you will screw up your first build (bad soldering, wrong UARTs, bad betaflight settings, etc.) and at least you'll have something clean to actually fly as you're doing your own build. This is not the most economical way obviously but can save some frustration while getting to enjoy the miracle of flight.
Tiny whoop- the ultimate starter bnf… then while you whoop learn to build your 3” basher
I would go as far to say as it is indefinite that you will screw something up build wise at some point in the hobby, and that always happens more early on.
"I've seen your unstabilized drone footage."
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Here's your engagment! 🤓
The Mk5 flys great. Best bind and fly drone. Only weak point is the motors. Very good first drone as it is strong, powerful, and easy to fix and upgrade. As you break it you learn to fix it. Then once you learn to rebuild, then you build yourself a proper custom crem de la crem drone.
Most people that try to build their drone first either give up or make something super unsafe. I suppose I'm saying that I disagree with your advice based upon my experience as professional drone/fpv teacher, test pilot, builder, and repair tech. People are usually not even proficient at first with electronics building much less good enough to make a safe flying one lol Takes a lot of time to get there. Time you could have been flying. Never wait to fly, fly often, fly safe!
I've always heard it as " buy nice or buy twice "
i like that better
🤣😂 Your interpretation of pilot interactions online is spot on. If I could charge $1 for every time someone has told me something I fly sucks or blew up on them I'd be rich. I just chalk it up to , choose what works for you, if something blows up, trace back to why and then make a decision to proceed w/purchasing or trying something new. I like bind in fly's only if they are ducted drones, actual fpv freestyle banger/basher drone I would agree to not purchase. My fav motors where the T-Motors that came out one Halloween I believe during Covid and look like pumpkins, badass. Still have mine. 😉
Tango 2 FTW
keep up the good work man
Love the content, man.
I regret owning frsky, I bought b&f for freestyle, I bought the cumbersome tx16s, I spent hours online trying to find answers only to become more confused. Now everything I fly has to have ELRS, got radiomaster pocket, I build mine own, and I know where to find valid information. All apart of the journey I suppose. It can feel hopeless at times but always feels worth it in the end. Happy flying to all pilots 👊
@Grim Ripper, thank you for always telling the truth and addressing what's always over looked or conveniently left out
Great great job Mr. grim ripper 🧐keep up the great work 😎 bind and fly are created to break peoples pocket. I think as a new beginner people should learn how the quad works and performs before making any type of purchases. I learned that the hard way now I would not say I’m a professional FPV pilot but I sure damn well know how to control the quad.
All valid points! yo those PEDEVX motors go hard, I've also seen Slatt Motors take insane bashing!
i dont understand the hate on bnf drones. when it comes to whoops they are a great base line for all the parts you often just need to upgrade the motors. i still have many of the bnfs i started with. (roma f5, baby ape and baby ape 11, ymz lighting 1 and every mobula happymodel has made) its a good launch pad for someone who doesn't have much electronic experience to be able to get into the air and to see if they want to get into the hobby. once you get into the hobby more is when you start to get a taste of what you want from it and then you can get into building your your own imo.
I don't hate em, they're a good starting point, but you'll quickly want a drone built by a pilot, designed to be crashed instead of a drone built by grannies.
Micro bind and flys are fine
@@grimripperrr got zero patience to micros 🤣 3.5" is as small as I enjoy. Whoops never got my nipples hard 😯
@Fly_High_FPV I put my first bnf iflight naxgul through some shit, then I crashed into a creek and it being submerged in water is what killed the esc.
What nice about bnf is they usually come with a decent tune on them, i still got to tune out prop wash on a some builds I have
I have a co-worker who is really into FPV, has been flying a long time. When I was looking at getting a new quad they said over and over don't get a bind and fly, that I should just build a quad. I've flown every day for the past month with my bind and fly and they have not because all of his quads are in various states of repair on the bench while he tinkers with one thing or another trying to get them in a good place. He loves it, loves tinkering with them, working on them, etc etc. I see the appeal, don't get me wrong, but for me I just want to get out and fly and not think too much about building. I'm sure I'll build something in the future, but for me at least getting out to fly is more fun that sitting at the bench soldering.
The quad is a consumable, buy a nice radio (Boxer ELRS), some gogs and 69 packs then do a kickflip and you are good to go!
My first build was the rotor riot cl1 budget build. The flight stack has been in at least 3 or 4 different quads at this point. Learning to build for the sake of repairs is probably one of the bigger hurtles. Always recommend a build kit for at least the second drone. Maybe still a bind and fly first.
The civic...thats a flex 🔥 apart from that nice vid as always dud!
Awesome
To quote Oddball from Kelly's Hero's - "I only ride 'em, I don't know what makes 'em work." - Uppa bind n fly massive and nice video btw 😁
The Matek HDTE f450 is probably the most reliable FC. It has about 6 UARTS, black box logging, type C. And literally every pad you can think of. As for ESC I think the X rotor 65amp is killer
Good vid! I had Tango2 and moved to Boxer for it's larger size, I was getting mad RSI in my hands/wrists pinching with the Tango2, with the Boxer my hands feel fine afterwards.
Ironically, my first ever drone (Darwin baby ape) has withstood more use and abuse than almost all of my other drones and it was $100 shipped. I even bought spare motors for it because the amount of people claiming that they break, and still have yet to break a motor. Same with my goggles; theyre fatshark echos ($100) but i absolutely love them despite lacking diversity and slightly subpar dvr recording. Your gear is what you make of it.
I fried my first RTF drone and I've been trying to find an AIO in stock for 2 months now. Out of stock issues seem rampant in the hobby.
I'm ready to just give up and buy something else, but now I'm afraid of running into the same issue with the next thing I buy, unless I buy 2 of them.
What size quad do you need an AIO for? I have the T-Motor F7 35amps in stock, great for 3.5" quads
I needed a grim video today....I just built a new quad and had a bad stack (speedy bee v4)and a bad analog 1w vtx.(rush tank solo)..and also have a vista nebula lost in the mail too been waiting 2 weeks and they won't send replacement for another week(rdq) and have one of my quads desyncing bad which is probly motor....down from 4 quads to 1..... your video made me be not so mad 😂😂 and for that grimmm....I thank u
Gotta disagree with the UniBell statements tho...sounds like some lines from an advertisement. In my experience, shitty 2 part bells will drop bells, quality 2 part bells won't. DYS was dropping bells all day long, light tap from 5 feet up and the bells would fall. Look at the T-Motor F60 if you want a motor that can bash on concrete all day and keep on flying. I'd rather pay a bit more for the motors to avoid changing/replacing motors all day, cuz I've been know to bend steel shafts and break shitty bells, just can't fly em anymore. For example: Amax gave me Bando Motors, smoked one on day 1, smoked one on day 2, and day 3 I smashed 2 bells in one crash....I went right back to my F60's. Now Amax sends me a another set of (v2) Bando motors...and I don't even wanna fuck with putting em on just to break em. I love building quads, but hate when they fail.
I didn’t say anything about unibell specifically though I just have been using the PDEVX motors for a year, I also have F60s on one quad. Also the hypertrain motors are just white labeled T-Motor motors.
I’ll take the amax motors tho if you don’t want them though
@@grimripperrr i'm probably just triggered by the word Unibell, cuz they ain't tougher than my motors 🤣
This is reassuring for me, I just bought HD Zero goggles as a freshy to the fpv hobby
I think anything modular that let's you fly digital and analog is a good buy.
Glad you made one of these. I think it should be a requirement for any pilot with a channel to give their opinion/experience...ok...some people shouldn't. They should just shut up & fly...or just shut up.
The mark5 is a great drone don’t let this guy scare you off
I really like the Xing E Pros. They are not as powerful as Xing2 but are 20% more power efficient. I can get about 4 minutes of my typical flying using a new 1300mah 6s battery. They're not quite as tuff as the original Xing bells, but they work well enough.
All jokes aside, this is solid advice.
I didn't even realize you can't do head tracking with the Tango 2. Just did a little reading - Crossfire does support it but the T2 doesn't have the port you need for it.
What's frustrating is the board inside the T2 has pads that seem to be there to support a trainer (and therefore possibly head tracking) but when TBS went dormant all the development on it stopped
What's head tracking?
The Foxeer Reaper sucks I plugged it in and it caught on fire....
😂
real as fuck, word up
I still have my QAV 210 NightHawk frame from 2014 lmfao. Its been thru a myriad of controllers, ESC, and motor configs. the issues come from using counterfeit components and product's that snake their way into the supply chain by the "Richard Spear" gatekeepers of the world, it sucks. If you don't know lookup what happened to Xjet on the other side of the pond in the early 2000s. It started everything...
Hdzero goggles are the one thing every pilot should own. Box goggles and used fatsharks are a waste of money
I just go used fatsharks, they helped me take my fear of acro away in just a couple of days. (5 inch racer). Why are used fatsharks bad?
@@KainniaK they're not bad goggles but the hdzero has hdmi-in, analog support, high res/refresh. Slap the walksnail vrx on it and you can run any popular VTX system except DJI
Foxeer and t motor stacks and esc are bulletproof for sure
Every ones start point needs are different (budget) but for me starting back in 2017, if I started today I wouldn't go analog, maybe HDzero but I think would still lean DJI or have both systems then you're 100 percent covered
Honestly bind and fly isn’t too bad if you just swap out the shit that doesn’t work as well. Half the time you can get an O3 setup for cheaper that way. I mean I learned how to solder after tossing my shit a couple times so it’s not bad ripping a MKV from GEPRC off the start. I get the whole right of passage thing here but it’s for the love of the god damn flight baby, let’s just remember if it’s ripping through the air nobody is gonna give two shits what brand anything is on it if it flies well. 😂
The secret to saving money in anything RC is learning how to solder. But if you suck at it, it's going to be so expensive when you keep breaking stuff while trying to sodder.
I can't do it. I wish somebody would make a video telling me the top 5 sodder equipment to get and how to start learning the basics. I am terrified of touching an FC and destroying it while soddering.
Buy once cry once could be applied to everything you need except the quad.
Great tip about the zoro vs the radiomaster. I was also thinking about getting the 4 in 1 TX16 with ELRS module. But my friend ahmad he said: the tx16 is soo big. And now you are saying: ERLS is good enough of a supported protocol and the receivers are cheap, light and tiny so you don't need anything else. So you changed my mind and I will get the zoro and just fly ELRS and the one plane I have that has a spektrum receiver, I will just replace it with elrs. Thanks Grim! Also for right now 1W elrs is probablly overkill. I think a 100 mw or maybe 200 mw is more then enough unless you go super long range. Still why can't elrs have dynamic power like DJI? And even go down to 20mw is that's enough, would save even more battery.
Elrs has dynamic power, and I saw a video recently discussing interference you’ll get in your video from your radio link and you probably don’t need very much power.
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The local radio control flying club. Doesn't like fpv drones and they won't let me join. So i fly alone.
Get velocidrone, race online. Make friends. Maybe you will find other fpv drone pilots that live close by. You never know.
@@KainniaK Shalom
I definitely did buy a nazgul before when I started solid frame but I also replaced everything inside. Oh wait those xing eco whatever are pretty good I beat the shit out of them... 😊
If you want to fly indoor buy analog, if you want to fly outside buy DJI. If you want to do both then buy both, it's still cheaper than buying HDZ!
I’ve bought some bnf but I started building my own years ago but I’m starting to trust these bnf a little more now that everything is getting better but yes you should probably build your first drone just so you know how to work on everything from beta flight to what broke 😂
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GogglesX can do analog and walksnail too. Half the price of ZeroHD.
I would have gotten the Zoro and hd0 goggles as well regerts.
My advice would be, wait a year until everything goes ELRS. Dumb FrSky radio, with v2 protocol, that's not compatible with any FrSky drone I have. So I switch the F modules all the time.
Well, I'm a newcommer to this hobby and it's a mess trying to figure out anything at all. Most stuff only lasts a year before it's replaced and out of spare parts.
But I belive a whoop is the easiest way to start as they are hard to break. :D
Also safer for everybody around you. Including yourself. 5 inch props at full rpm are fucking scary.
i usually tell people just get what’s in stock. And usually there is only 1 haha
🤣 fpv life is a safe space with nothing but helpful ppl. 🤣 🤪 sounds good.
I started with frisky radio too...vrap then got zorro and also wanna get jumper t20 or boxer for a full gimbal radio.....or put a ranger module on my nx10 spectrum radio I fly 3d planes wjth
What is full gimbal and why is is better? What 3 radios do the best fpv racers use?
@@KainniaK full size gimbal...the zero and pocket have mini gimbal
The only way I bind and fly is after I’ve built my quad.
The question is: how many commenters and posters are actually undercover vendors trying to push their products. And the noobs asking the same stupid question everytime and never spend a dime in the hobby are actually vendors also, just starting the conversation. Marketing tactics goes deep. Be cautious !
Compatibility, Versatility, Solder Sucker, Controllers, Beta Flight, TBS, Motors, BNF, Dead Cat, Whoop, Build Your Own, ???????? 😱🤯 What does it all mean? 😅
I'm adamant that unless you have a friend's drone to try out, your first drone SHOULD be a bind n fly. You def need to learn to build a quad, but you first need to know what a good flight experience feels like. If you build a quad and it flies like shit, all shakey and full of jello, you won't even realize it's bad! When the BNF inevitably breaks, you'll learn to build by rebuilding it, which is much easier than starting from scratch. There ARE good bind n flys too.
Haha it's been a year and i havent burned the esc of the Nazgul
Building a drone is so important in so many ways. I feel BnF's let to many dummies into the hobby ( no one in particular ) but when you build a drone/quad you have more respect for it and the hobby. I see so many posts of people who know nothing about FPV other then charge batteries and fly, post videos and are just F*ckin it up for everyone. Building = Respect lol
I think you could be right, but with a caveat. Anyone who learns to fly acro isn't just charging batteries and flying. Sure, your typical DJI guy is fairly likely to be an asshat, but someone flying acro with goggles on is a completely different animal. Learning to fly (for real) is harder than learning to build a drone IMO.
@JohnSmith_1331 I agree, but a lot of people just learning go to a busy spot to try and learn lol for me, one if the best parts of FPV is when you finish a build, run it through the software, tune it in and it flies good, thats satisfying. It's like a few hours ago this was a pile of parts and now I'm diving gaps or surfing trees lol I'm not against instant gratification on certain things in life, but we love on a society that doesn't know anything but instant gratification
@@DronzenFPV There is definitely way too much instant gratification. But, at least for me, there was very little of that in buying a BNF drone. I got a crux35 to start because I wanted something relatively cheap (doesn't hurt my pocket much) and small (less likely to hurt anyone else). But the BNF process was anything but instant - I had to upgrade ELRS on my controller, and just getting them bound literally took hours as someone who had only watched a bunch of youtube videos. And I had at least 30 hours on sims before I even ordered it, if I had just taken it out to fly without any practice I might have been dangerous - but only for about 30 seconds before I broke it or got it stuck in a tree.
For me the big issue is the people who get an all in one package on amazon or costco or wherever and everything is done for them, and it practically flies itself. Those people tend to just start tear assing around and breaking all of the rules of safety (and common sense). I know people who fly drones like that and I guarantee they couldn't fly one of my quads for 30 seconds.
Is there a better size drone to get? Like 3.5 inch over 5 inch? Let me know what you wanna talk about in my next video. Lol.
I started with the aquilla 16 and if that's the first thing you try acro with you are going to think that acro is waaaaay harder then it really is. And the reason is inertia. A 5 inch will have a descent amount of inertia and that just makes it so much easier to fly. (as long as it's tuned properly)
@@KainniaK that's great info. I currently have a 2.5 inch tadpole and it's lots of fun to fly. The only problem is the amount of room for components to build the drone with. I've been working with AIO whoop/toothpick boards but, availability of reasonably priced boards are hard to come by. I've been trying to find a reasonably priced 16x16 stack but, that seems non-existent. So, are 5 inch reasonably priced components more readily available?
@@focusforlife That I don't know yet. I have been doing RC for 13 years now, but only started FPV the last 3 months. I have not yet learned how to solder, so I am mainly just buying used drones from people. Our RC club always has members that are selling good builds for a friendly price.
We are all chit pilots 😂😀👍👍🔥🔥🔥🔥
I have lost many drones
I've avoided the Zorro because all I hear is how bad the battery life is. I like the game controller sorta layout. Is the battery really that bad?
Can't you just put your own lipo in it?
@@KainniaK Not sure, everything I've seen is it's 2x 13650's. I like the small form factor. Bolting on an external LiPo defeats the purpose.
I can tell you why esc's burn out its because people don't disarm as soon as they crash and then they try to take off with stuck rotors because they are lazy.
When I was a kid I let my cousin who had a bit of experience with hobby rc's drive my rc car he crashed it and kept trying to drive it back and blew up my electronic speed controller this was in the early 90's so they were expensive as fuck.
Never let anyone drive my rc cars since then for a really long time.
Who is the band in the beginning I must know?
What face pad for the hdzero goggles is that
The one that came with my skyzone goggles.
@@grimripperrr thanks! I can’t tell from the website do those pads have Velcro like the stock hdzero pads? Or did you need some other mounting solution
I fly the cheapest components I can fucking get. lol I still fly BLHELI S shit especially with bud jay flashed on it. It’s still fun as shit. I’m gunna crash it, it’s gunna great so why not go cheap. I will say I do wish I went ELRS off the rip. I too went 4n1.
me having fun bashing my bnf anyways
Need to hookup your bud with some conformal coating, if he's loosing FC's to water 💦💦
I don’t even conformal coat.
@@grimripperrrsame
@@grimripperrr my quads get wet, almost every week, it's essential for me. I only mentioned it, because he said his fc's last forever, until they get wet...easy fix 👍
Yeah because he crashed it into a pond lol
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@@grimripperrr exactly, couldn't see the fishing line before he hit it, perfect reason to use Conformal Coating, that quad would have shaken off the water and kept flying that day👍 #ConformalCoatingFTW
Goggles are the only true buy once cry once, in FPV. Everything else is relative. There is no BOCO motor. If you don't have a few quads for different tasks/environments.... there is more crying to come.
I own 3 pairs of goggles….
@@grimripperrr I own 4 pairs of goggles. One is a dedicated analog DJI V2. Preach it... but that doesn't matter to the concept of "buy once, cry once." Most pilots won't, but they're experience will depend on their goggles more than any other piece of gear. Every thing other than a pair of goggles can be suffered, but poor visual quality will cause nausea, headaches, and disorientation.
Unless you buy DJI goggles, then you cry everytime something that is technical compatible is made not compatible on purpose so they can put pressure on you to spend more money. Like I got the 03 air unit just before the avata 2 was launched but here in the philipines the Goggles v2 is so popular I could not buy it anywhere. Bought the avata 2, been waiting for it to work with my 03 air unit ever since ....
Lol Chris, even Putin knows what BL32 is.
teach tune.
I second you on HD Zero, but that Zorro radio is garbage in my opinion- bad form factor (that screen is a total joke if you use goggles) and awful bat life. TBS Mambo or a RadioMaster Boxer are what I would recommend after doing this for 9 years.
so the zorro, you can't easily install your own battery in there? Or does it just use to many mw?
Bnf for first won't last. Also a built drone won't last either.
I agree, just learn to build a quad. Its not actually that hard.
There is something really cool, a sense of pride i guess, flying something you built yourself.
I disagree, go ahead and get a bind and fly. It forces you to learn how to replace garbage motors, garbage stacks, burnt vtx’s. Plus it’s cheaper to purchase an inflight Nazgûl than it is to build one. My first drone was a Nazgûl and I am STILL beating the shit out of it. I was forced to replace the garbage ESC, the garbage camera, and my many bent motors. I do not regret starting with a bind and fly. I have since then built many different drones.
I tell people buy once cry once all the time, but I am saying "buy the cheap shit 10x or buy the good shit 1x"
Do you know what I am saying?
Yeah but in some cases even buying thr good shit 1x doesn’t mean it’s only once. You might buy a TX16 like me and realize that you hate how big it is, it’s still a good radio and I could use it forever but I didn’t know that a smaller radio would have been better for me, but when I was new i didn’t really have that much information except what I could scrape together from everyone’s opinion.
even now after flying for almost 2 years I wish I had a radio with full size gimbals so I might get something like a boxer or a tango 2. but I would have no way of knowing that unless I bought multiple things.
@@grimripperrr yeah I'm usually referring to batteries and cameras and such. Esc especially
@@grimripperrrall parts are temporary and attachment is the root of all suffering. Sometimes I think people are just buying more parts to try and buy skill.
I'm pretty shit. One day I won't be. It won't be because of my motors or flight controller. It's going to be time in the air.
Buy the cheap shit once, fly it without wallet fear. Have some fun. Learn. Make all the mistakes. Break it. Then buy good shit, now your fear is gone and you know what the most expensive mistakes are going to be. And if you can fly the shitty crap you can fly anything. As such once you get the good stuff your confidence will get a boost as well.
@@KainniaK agreed. I see some buying the same bottom dollar components sometimes and whining about failures. Spend double what they would have if they upgraded...
Every post on FPV LIFE is like "Should I buy an avata 2" and then it has 3 likes but 121 comments somehow
I got an betafpv aquilla 16 and then the avata 2 and now my friend Ahmad just sold me his 5 inch racing drone. The aquilla 16, outside it really did not fly well even in sport mode. Inside the house sport mode was fine, but still very hard to control trottle with. I practised acro on the simulator using the DJI fpv controller and with uncrashed for a couple of days. I also tried the avata 2 in manual with bank limits on. But I was scared. Then I got the 5 inch drone with fatshark goggles. (taranis with elrs) And as soon as I flew it my fears where totally gone. THe next day I took the bank angle limits of the avata 2, gave myself a little less exponential and increase the rates a bit and was ripping around the avata 2 in acro I like have been flying for 3 months already. I bounced in to the ground just once, when fucking around with the camera angle. if you go from 35 up to 15 up while hovering you screw around with your own feeling of where the ground is. I do not recommend it. Go higher or use the break button first.
Honestly, a 5 inch racer or freestyle drone with some intertia that's properly tuned and fpv is not that hard.
At least not compared to the 10 years of flying quads line of sight, without goggles. That shit is really hard. You need to learn tail in hover, nose in hove, side 1 hover, side 2 hover. And don't even get me started on flying a heli inverted where suddenly up is down and down is up. That shit is fucking hard. FPV, to have enough control to be in charge? It's not that hard if you journey in to it properly. Some sim, some light cinewhoops you can bang in to anything without doing damage, and then your first flights on a 5 inch will take all your fears away and off you go.
Really compared to line of sight flying where your orientations change all the time and you need muscle memory in all orientations FPV flying is easy peasy.
But actually those BNF GepRC frames are the worst! I had one open a portal to hell once and nearly lost my life.. Wii gyro on a FC is the absolute best.. trust me..
Definitely flawed... how else would I have ended up back on analog after loosing all that cash on a list air unit, a broken air unit, then a drowned vista.... if you're gonna freestyle and you're not a savant or super rich, analog would probably be the smarter way until you really have a good grasp on flying and you don't take a large amount of risk
Except for whoops
I like dogmatism in all glory. I promise, I wont buy any bind and fuckup anymore. Promise. Swear. Seriously. Has been shit, will be shit. Is evil. Not real and wont make me a true pilot. Is always missing the status and will void any earned acomplishments instantly. No bnf. Comprehended.
Some people really don't have time to learn to build like myself. But I'll pay somebody to build one. I have just enough time to fly like twice a week. So it's either DJI (bleck) or bind and fly
How about fly real good and not vlog for clicks ?
This guy, so depressing shut up and fly
I found it funny I know who is complaining about shit on Facebook XD