In our TRT center, we use mainly use injections because you simply get the best static results from that ... gels/creams are all over the place. Dr. McClain did a great job explaining the differences ... thank you Dr.!
The healing rate of my testosterone level increased very fast after I used the super herbs I got from Dr igho UA-cam channel, he gave me a good impression that it is gonna work and it did work because right now I don't longer experience symptoms I use to experience I now have strong Erections
After 6 years of injecting I went with compounding test cream. Levels were same with both and I prefer roll on creams inside upper arms. No issues with absorbing or anything else this doc mentioned. Only downside is that compounding pharmacy cream is more expensive than vials. Injecting weekly gets also to be old and immune system always reacts to injections hence "test flue" since injecting anything in body passes regular immune system defenses gets to trigger it. Daily application of creams is easy and mimics biological normal curve of hormone levels vs juts a big spike after injections and long drop down. Our bodies are not designed that way. Levels of test should be highest early morning and go down through out the day vs staying elevated for a week.
@@playboicarlos Compounded test cream is only about $50 a month. One thing I'm surprised he didn't say anything about was scrotal application. I take 10% cream 2x a day and my free hovers near 1000 ng/dl. You can get it with twice that concentration....On a side note, if you wanted to and your doc will sign off you can get it in up to a 3 month supply dispenser..
Injecting once a week was the reason why you were having a problem. It was too much all at once. Had you brought that up into smaller injections three or four times a week you wouldn't have any issues with your immune system or anything else most likely
In Norway we mostly get testogel 50 mg for use in TRT. I've been using 50 mg gel for about 9 months now. My starting levels were 2.9 nmol/l or 83.64 ng/dl, and on my last blood test the results showed 50 nmol/l or 1442.1 ng/dl. Im happy with the results from the testosterone in gel form! I apply it every morning but its no hassle, ive done injections before aswell but prefer the gel form.
Testogel 1 dose per day (50mg/day). Prescription in Sweden: 414SEK for 3-month treatment (0.46USD/day). Check testosterone and Hb a month after starting treatment: confirms that transdermal absorption of testosterone is effective. Stop treatment if Hb >180. No need to inject testosterone.
I’ve had great results from trans-scrotal cream (compounded). 100mg morning/night. My blood work over 18mths. reflects 1500-1800. Significant body comp improvements with clean diet and resistance training. I started at 55.
I see a physician attached to a Med Spa, so I pay out of pocket. With quarterly Doctor visits, cream supply, plus semi annual blood work; it’s ~$1800/yr.
I am a COVID survivor and Remdesivir survivor .after COVID my vitamin D and and testosterone dropped right off and my thyroid and liver and intestines are damaged from Remdesivir and COVID .I just started vitamin D therapy light therapy and milk thistle to help my liver recover .I lost much of my muscle mass .went from 185 lbs to 147 lbs .Need to get back into shape and dealing with muscle atrophy and contractures .the endocrinologist suggested TRT along with upping idodine and vitamin D and sunshine .Physio says aquarobics to start with .no weights or running yet .They say it could take 3+years to recover .WTF
I’ve used the creams and I’ve use the injectables that I got to say the cream works way better than the injectables for me.I don’t have the high hemocritelevels the high estrogen levels cause I’m using the cream daily and my testosterone level is in the 1300s
Are you using the trans -scrotol cream or regular traditional shoulder inner thigh cream ? Also what were your injectable hematology vs cream if you can ? Thanks 🙏🏼
@@APR702 I use testosterone cream and apply it on the back of my knee, top of forearm, calf, on my scrotum doesn’t really matter. Transcription means applying to your scrotum. It’s the same cream. Infection were 150 mgs once a week.
I am afraid of injecting the hydrogenated oils contained in some TRT vials. When ingested, these oils cause body inflammation. Any thoughts on the hidden risks of injecting these oils?
I’m on topical and it’s not working well. Last blood test showed no increase. Just doubled it, but I don’t think it’s going to work enough and I hate putting this much gel on.
Difficult discussion I take 25mg oxy everyday for past year because of failed back surgery. The issue is I've had hypogonadism since a teen. My level before ox was between 180 and 360. After multiple test I'm still nervous I'll get anxiety on the trt 😅. Currently dealing with all low T symptoms plus anxiety depression lack of motivation etc.
@Niltomega it's like botox bur leaves knots on your skin you definitely don't gain weight or get bigger and stronger not even the 2 times a week injections help plus I had low vitamin d and I think something is wrong with my blood or thyroid idk I've done all kinds of blood work test snd x-rays mris and nothing nelps me I sleep too much
I have used the pills,the andro-gel, and injections for testosterone. (Legally) and no doubt the injections are %1,000 better and typically just once a week dosage rather then everyday with the other dosing methods.
Once a week testosterone is going to be a thing of the past. It causes major swings up and down and isn’t mimicking normal physiology at all. Micro dosing daily is the future
yeah I just get extra syringes at a pharmacy and shoot half dose twice a wk. Having said that 200mg T cyp per wk is twice what I need if I'm not drinking so .5ml every 7 days keeps me sorted at 52 y/o.
@@jassa2160 Testosterone is a naturally produced Steriod in the body and the primary male sex hormone. TRT is replacing low test levels Cycles that include other compounds like Deca Mast or Tren are BB cycles
Anyone that uses scrotal cream, how were you able to get over the insomnia from applying at night, if it had that effect on you, it’s the only thing keeping me from using it. Would like to give it a go again.
My endocrinologist (at the VA) refuses to give me anything other than Androgel 1.62% (2 pumps daily). She says the numbers are good enough (low 400s) and the shot peaks/dips too much. But I still feel like absolute ass!
"she says" there's your problem lol. Get a male doctor that understands this stuff. Your doctor is a pharma graduate that does everything the pharma company taught her. 400 is abysmal and she is clearly clueless
I'm a vet....diagnosed with hypogonadism....va had me on tramadol for 6 years....got off and found out about the low T. Went to the Low T Clinic and have stuck with them for almost 4 years. Fk the VA.
@@kmd4614 Tram lowered your T? Mine is from a tumor in my head from a TBI caused by an IED. The tumor was pressing on the pituitary gland which regulates hormones. I went to the low T clinic also but it's $200 a month and the VA is free lol The clinic will take VA insurance but I need a referral which the VA won't give me.
Can I get my prescriptions and fill them at a local pharmacy? I don't wanna stay with a clinic. I just want my treatment at costs. I was diagnosed with hypogandism, but I can't afford my treatment with telemedicine clinics. Goodrx has all my treatments at 1/10th the cost, they charged me. They wouldn't give me my prescriptions to take to a local pharmacy
What is the rationale for using exogenous testosterone for therapy? I whole heartedly believe Clomid and HCG be used for men before adding creams or gels. Why not unregulated your own production and max it out first? Unless of course you have primary gonad failure. I believe most docs jump to testosterone injections instead of dialing in Clomid and maybe HCG on top and anastrozole as needed.
Blocking estrogen from binding to your brain...Where it's supposed to be binding. And you want to use a AI on top of that? It's a self defeating cycle. You block the pituitary gland from getting the estrogen, so it signals testes to increase T production, which naturally creates more estrogen and DHT ect , so then you block that with an AI?..This whole model relies on denying your system estrogen . How long is that viable?
So what about increased risk of blood clots, and prostate cancer. What about when you stop TRT replacement and your body no longer produces the testosterone levels that it used to?
I used cyp for about a month with no injection site issues... I started seeing swelling in the area around the injection site, with redness, heat, and itching... Don't know what caused this, but I stopped and haven't continued... Any ideas what caused this??
ive been using perrigo injectable test for a few years and the last six months of using it.I feel like I have the flu for days after injecting it>anyone ever have these issues?
I did, on sustanon. Did it once weekly and would have a large bulge on my shoulder that was red and warm to the touch. After a day of injecting I would start to have flu like symptoms. I switched to enanthate after those 2 months and since have not had any of those side effects. Seems like different compounds affect people differently. Dosage was Sustanon 350 mg once a week @ 1cc. Enanthate 200 mg once a week @ .8cc. Best of luck man!
i have been on a generic gel for about 4 years now, im 52 years old and my test was around 250 when first tested. the gel is very inconsistent, dr will do labs and sometimes its 800 sometimes its 1200. the dr does not have an answer . he wants me around 700. i went to trt 6 months ago . the numbers stay around 1100 now , no back and forth . my drs HATE TRT, they have all negative comments on it .
It seems as if it's still almost taboo at times to talk about it with people. I'm not a doctor, but definitely do what gives you the best, most fulfilling quality of life. Do you feel good? Because I'm almost certain you do.
I inject myself on the quads, I'm fairly lean on that part of my body, I normally use a 25 gauge needle, but I don't know if thats going to be IM or SQ and if the oil will be absorbed properly, now, if a use a 27 gauge will be SQ and will absorbed properly? Great informative video
I recently heard about TRT and its really overwhelming. There's so many conflicting ideas of whether or not its good for the person. The immediate effects does look really good but the long term effect mentioned on like Harvard Health, MayoClinic, WebMD on things like cardiovascular problem, strokes, and death from heart disease discourages me from trying it. I will need to do more research on this but there hasn't been much data on long term effect yet.
@@Terror_Rick exactly! They don't want us to feel amazing they need us fat and sick and weak! So we get pharmaceutical companies, rich, politicians, rich, etc.
Like skylar said, Dive into some more research. The things you stated usually only become an issue when the person is using really high doses of test. If you stay within the high normal range, eat good, and very importantly also do cardio, I don’t think it will take 1 day off your lifespan to be completely honest.
I'm looking to have my PCP test my testosterone. Not sure if she'll allow TRT if I'm anywhere in the range, which we all know is a huge range. I'm not quite sure how to get her on board if my level is on the low end of the range.
Took me years to get on trt at 1 sustanon250 a week especially if used steroids before Dr's get very very very hesitant, I had to prove I hadn't used gear for Years before they'd help me. Sux but stay with it You'll get on Just go to different Dr 👍
It's easy to get it. Just get some and do it on your own. Then after a while abruptly stop taking it. Your levels will go to like nothing and any doc will give them to you that offers hrt, I recommend the pellets if just having hormone therapy is what you want. Bio te is what they are called. I will have to warn you. It's about 2500 a year, which isn't alot to me maybee others, and once you start .. you will always be on it. No matter what anyone's says.. you will feel horrible for a long time once you stop taking it. So if it's something you want to take for ever and are comfortable with that. Go for it. The pellets suck getting implanted its pretty uncomfortable.. brought my levels too 1100.. I get side effects when I've done higher with injections.. I don't know how people do so much..1100 levels work fine for me. I've had 1500 levels on injections and my red blood cells were through the roof. I quit taking it and my test was 180 and I got a doctor to give me pellets. It was a 330 before I took anything ever.
My question is if you inject testosterone, is there a danger of interfering withe the body natural testosterone, I guess my question is is there something I should use along with injection therapy 🤔
Its not a danger its a 100% guarantee that if you inject testosterone (or take any steroid) you will shutdown the body natural production. If your body is producing adequate Test naturally why would you go on therapy? If your body is not producing adequate Test then why bother stopping therapy? TRT is used to fix a temporary problem or a permanent solution. Taking hormones “recreationally” will put your test levels in the gutter for 6-18months and will most likely not return to the previous levels
My free and bio available Test is high...307 on my free and 659 on my bio available...my total is 957...any advice..I am on 100mg a week...don't see Dr for 2 weeks
I take nandrolone along with test cyp. Nandrolone is supposed to be joint protective. I remember reading about site injection directly to injury sites might provide better healing of damaged tissues. At the time it was just theory and no studies existed. Is there any merit to this idea . I've got shoulder issues and would try it if it's feasible.
I just add NPP (nandrolone phenylproprionate, short ester) to my trt. I as well have shoulder issues and noticed a marked improvement. Only concern is long term usage and I had to raise my trt dose, so in theory my "HRT" is no longer 'HRT" but a moderate cycle (200 test cyp / 150 npp per week).
I have hypothyroidism and have been on medication since 2018....I am now 50 but STILL don't feel like my sex drive is what it should be.The last blood panels said my T levels were fine so I doubt my doctor would recommend any T Therapy.Anyone have any suggestions?
The doctors are BS..they go by a set of rules...so they see a 50yo and if let's say your 300 they think your okay but you know it's BS. You actually should be over 1000..I see Dr Maupin from BioBalance in StLouis for pellets. Go to her yt channel..she is a legit doctor. I actually ignored my wife eho gas gone to her and my first run of pellets OMG - I felt alive and strong- focused and some of my inflammation in my hands went away. I just had my 5 months new pellets inserted today..she believes that men shouldn't be ranged by age but rather by what a young man has..btw..im 51
@@rhdtv2002 Thanks for the reply...My Testosterone count is 596 but my free testosterone is 10 and that seems on the low end.The problem is it is basically just my sex drive that I want improved.I really don't have any problems with lack of energy or depression.I sleep fairly well.I'll check the lady's YT channel out.Thanks again.
@@rhdtv2002 Yeah,but I will have to go through my primary provider initially because I don't know if I should do t therapy in addition to the thyroid medicine I'm on.I pulled a major blunder with a quack overseas doctor back in 2013.I received a testosterone injection (thinking it would give me a boost) and was horrified when it made me completely impotent for around a month.Needless to say,I will be EXTREMELY careful this time around.
@@gif24gt60 thanks man, hugely appreciate. I’ve got T base powder, is there anything else other than versabase/lipoderm needed to add to make a useable transdermal?
@@calvinchauvin78 most GPs will only raise you to "normal" levels, which that means anything north of 300 ng/dL is considered normal... for my age group I've read studies that show the AVERAGE T levels are in the 600s (I'm 53) - insurance companies in the west are just criminal.
For me the gel kicks ass and is extremely easy to use, I also like the ability to tweak the amount by starting small and if needed applying just a tad more. This would not be an option with injectables.
So much conflicting information out there. I’m on cream, applied to my scrotum, and there are multiple doctors who believe that’s actually a better delivery method than injection.
@@kh-fk3ko I started with 2 tests, a 199 total T, with a free of 3... yes, 3. Three months on the cream, my next test 645 total 13 free, increased application to twice a day, now 900 total and 20 free. There is no branded cream, it has to be made by a compounding pharmacy. Because I apply daily (now twice daily), there are no peaks and valleys in my level, it stays basically the same 24/7. Some evidence this method leads to more DHT conversion, and I have seen a slight increase in chest/stomach hair, but so far no impact on the hair on my head.
If a man approaching his 50's still has a testosterone level of around 860...is TRT off the table? Would there be any benefit from starting? I don't want to use it for PEDs, per se, but simply to counter aging.
Hoping someone can help me out. I started TRT 8 weeks ago. Level was 237.32 I get 150ML injections every two weeks. Did lab work to check levels two days ago got the results back and my testosterone level has dropped to 200.32 my progesterone is 1.48 pg/mL and estradiol is 35.23 pg/mL what is going on??
Injection frequency protocol is incorrect. You should start by dosing 50 mg to 75 mg twice weekly. Your injections are spaced way too far apart so that after two weeks the testosterone you injected is long gone. Not sure what kind of testosterone you are using, if it is testosterone cypionate it has a half life of about a week. Look into it, will make a huge difference.
If a Doctor gave you such a protocol, I highly recommend you to find another one. 150mg every 2 weeks is totally silly. Instead of doing 150mg every 2 weeks try 50mg every 5 days, you'll already feel better, more stable levels. Do not hesitate to challenge your Dr. Good luck to you 🤞🤞🤞
Definitely the period of 2 weeks is too much. 1 week max. When was the blood test done, how many days after the shot? If it was done on day 13 most likely it is shit again. How do you feel on day 4 and day 13? Most guys are doing between 120 and 150 a week from what I read.
Test prop, best for sexdrive, test cyph injections I had kinda bad blood work and things. The doses people say are insane to take. I had 1500 test levels on 1.5 ccs a week. My nipples were sensitive some, I cried watching movies that were sad very bad, all test for me is horrible acne, I get the test pellets now and they don't last 6 months, they last 4 and I go every 4.5 months.. when they insert the pellets it sucks very bad.. but it raises my test to 1100.. I don't have high red blood , I don't have bad side effects except acne. The last 2 weeks before I get my implant I do some test prop for sex. Besides that I think steroids aren't bad when you monitor your blood work and know your test levels. 1300 is pushing it.. 1500 is going to make things abnormal and over that I haven't tried it because for me a 1500 was intense. Go with the pellets unless you want intense side effects .. maybee that's worth it to others. Pellets are legal, and cost about 750 bucks for 4.5 months. No ups and downs.. no scar tissue from injections..good blood work.. feel good.. no matter what if your prone to acne it's all bad.
I will never forget the day I came across dr igho channel on UA-cam, I will always keep it memorable, thank you doctor for helping me boost my testosterone naturally, you made me feel more of a man, Thank you Dr!!
I admit the cream or gel sounds better to me only because sticking yourself every week seems like you could be leaving a lot of bruises all over yourself from constantly injecting yourself
I have gel, but want the injection. I dont feel to much improvement with 2 1% androgel packets everymorning. Last test had 52 free t and 350 total t. He said new test is to high..i mean how high can it really be, i dont trust these non jacked doctors like Rogan says. When I explain to him that I cant do the pumps to do an actual workout this wusses have no idea what that means or is like. A weightlifting atletic male will notice low t over a normal person or doctor because we actually use our t levels for years and no how much it afgects our workouts. And not that wussy cardio crap that doctors seem so adminent about
I’ve never had bruising, barely any blood. U don’t even notice where you pinned yourself after 5 minutes. That’s a myth my friend. Also the injections u don’t even feel really. It just takes a little bit of time to get used to doing them yourself.
Sorry but no child should be coming into contact with a man's testosterone gel if applied to the inner thigh. There's just no risk of this for anyone other than child molesters. Applying to the inner thigh should be cross contamination risk free.
This is someone with obviously no experience with testosterone cream. The cream works just as good if not better in most men for testosterone therapy when done correctly. You should interview someone that has more experience with the various delivery systems. When somebody doesn't have experience with cream it shows in an interview like this. So much miss information that could harm men because not everyone wants to inject. Yes we know injections work but the cream also works just as good with somebody that has experience in using it.
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In our TRT center, we use mainly use injections because you simply get the best static results from that ... gels/creams are all over the place. Dr. McClain did a great job explaining the differences ... thank you Dr.!
Good to see the doc back on you tube
The healing rate of my testosterone level increased very fast after I used the super herbs I got from Dr igho UA-cam channel, he gave me a good impression that it is gonna work and it did work because right now I don't longer experience symptoms I use to experience I now have strong Erections
After 6 years of injecting I went with compounding test cream.
Levels were same with both and I prefer roll on creams inside upper arms.
No issues with absorbing or anything else this doc mentioned.
Only downside is that compounding pharmacy cream is more expensive than vials.
Injecting weekly gets also to be old and immune system always reacts to injections hence "test flue" since injecting anything in body passes regular immune system defenses gets to trigger it.
Daily application of creams is easy and mimics biological normal curve of hormone levels vs juts a big spike after injections and long drop down.
Our bodies are not designed that way.
Levels of test should be highest early morning and go down through out the day vs staying elevated for a week.
How much more expensive ? Many would be willing to shell out the extra $ to avoid pinning.
@@playboicarlos Compounded test cream is only about $50 a month. One thing I'm surprised he didn't say anything about was scrotal application. I take 10% cream 2x a day and my free hovers near 1000 ng/dl. You can get it with twice that concentration....On a side note, if you wanted to and your doc will sign off you can get it in up to a 3 month supply dispenser..
Injecting once a week was the reason why you were having a problem. It was too much all at once. Had you brought that up into smaller injections three or four times a week you wouldn't have any issues with your immune system or anything else most likely
@@acktionjackson666 who wants to jab 4x a week😢
@@enntenseWhat’s the benefit to scrotal application?
How about pellets form of trt?
In Norway we mostly get testogel 50 mg for use in TRT. I've been using 50 mg gel for about 9 months now. My starting levels were 2.9 nmol/l or 83.64 ng/dl, and on my last blood test the results showed 50 nmol/l or 1442.1 ng/dl. Im happy with the results from the testosterone in gel form! I apply it every morning but its no hassle, ive done injections before aswell but prefer the gel form.
what is the price of the gel
@@marijanbarijus1131 I bought in Hungary for 45€ 30 bags for 30 days
Interessant å høre. Hvor lang tid tok det før du nådde 50 nmol/l?
Have you noticed any results in terms of motivation and/or physical?
Testogel 1 dose per day (50mg/day). Prescription in Sweden: 414SEK for 3-month treatment (0.46USD/day). Check testosterone and Hb a month after starting treatment: confirms that transdermal absorption of testosterone is effective. Stop treatment if Hb >180. No need to inject testosterone.
I’ve had great results from trans-scrotal cream (compounded). 100mg morning/night. My blood work over 18mths. reflects 1500-1800. Significant body comp improvements with clean diet and resistance training. I started at 55.
What does something like this cost?
@randall how much does that cost you?
I see a physician attached to a Med Spa, so I pay out of pocket. With quarterly Doctor visits, cream supply, plus semi annual blood work; it’s ~$1800/yr.
@@bartholomewa9294 A month supply of compounded cream is only in the $50 range.
@@enntensethank you! I’ve searched everywhere for an estimate of the cream cost.
I am a COVID survivor and Remdesivir survivor .after COVID my vitamin D and and testosterone dropped right off and my thyroid and liver and intestines are damaged from Remdesivir and COVID .I just started vitamin D therapy light therapy and milk thistle to help my liver recover .I lost much of my muscle mass .went from 185 lbs to 147 lbs .Need to get back into shape and dealing with muscle atrophy and contractures .the endocrinologist suggested TRT along with upping idodine and vitamin D and sunshine .Physio says aquarobics to start with .no weights or running yet .They say it could take 3+years to recover .WTF
I’ve used the creams and I’ve use the injectables that I got to say the cream works way better than the injectables for me.I don’t have the high hemocritelevels the high estrogen levels cause I’m using the cream daily and my testosterone level is in the 1300s
May I know the cream name please
@@MRGAMER_123 testosterone cream (30)ml 200 mgs from empower. I take 3 clicks per day.(150) mgs
@@MRGAMER_123 Cream has to be made by a compounding pharmacy, it's not available off the shelf.
Are you using the trans -scrotol cream or regular traditional shoulder inner thigh cream ? Also what were your injectable hematology vs cream if you can ? Thanks 🙏🏼
@@APR702 I use testosterone cream and apply it on the back of my knee, top of forearm, calf, on my scrotum doesn’t really matter. Transcription means applying to your scrotum. It’s the same cream. Infection were 150 mgs once a week.
My local clinic ONLY uses pellets, and I've heard nothing but issues with them...
Also pellets for men and women dosed every 3-4 months
Pellets they have to cut your buttocks open and place theses individual pellets in every 3 months😐
He doesn’t mention pellets
There was no mention of the Transdermal Patch, is it any good.?
Definitely my questions. Compounded cream scrotal sure sounds good to avoid estrogen spiking. Arimidex isn’t good.
Men need estrogen to have a better mood
What are his thoughts on pellets vs weekly injections?
Would my blood work show an increase in testosterone if I added 100mg of deca and 100mg of masteron to my trt regimen?
I am afraid of injecting the hydrogenated oils contained in some TRT vials. When ingested, these oils cause body inflammation. Any thoughts on the hidden risks of injecting these oils?
That dude was kick ass in Black Flag! 💪
Just got out of ER again, 3rd time. Dvt first time and second time, 3rd time this weekend was PE both lungs.
Why?
Eurgh, I had POME once and sucked. It's literally the only time I never aspirated an injection and got a bad jab
I’m on topical and it’s not working well. Last blood test showed no increase. Just doubled it, but I don’t think it’s going to work enough and I hate putting this much gel on.
Versabase cream vs lipoderm cream base, which is better?
What about Kyzatrex oral testosterone?
Difficult discussion I take 25mg oxy everyday for past year because of failed back surgery. The issue is I've had hypogonadism since a teen. My level before ox was between 180 and 360. After multiple test I'm still nervous I'll get anxiety on the trt 😅. Currently dealing with all low T symptoms plus anxiety depression lack of motivation etc.
I'm supposed to start this week at 100mg a week I'm just confused if I'll end up worse off unfortunately
Can you inject the androgel gel 1.65% ? Like it burns 🔥 like he'll AM I suppose to inject into a vein or just the butt or arms.?
YOu are kidding right?
@@niltomega2978 no I accidentally roo 3 months of androgel 3 boxes/ pumps in 1 yes 1 month and my testerone was still low it was 35
@Niltomega it's like botox bur leaves knots on your skin you definitely don't gain weight or get bigger and stronger not even the 2 times a week injections help plus I had low vitamin d and I think something is wrong with my blood or thyroid idk I've done all kinds of blood work test snd x-rays mris and nothing nelps me I sleep too much
@@joeyonmobile211
YOu don't inject Androgel you wipe it on your skin. Its a gel.
Can I stack testoterone enanthate with MK677
I have used the pills,the andro-gel, and injections for testosterone. (Legally) and no doubt the injections are %1,000 better and typically just once a week dosage rather then everyday with the other dosing methods.
Did you notice any muscle gains on androgel? Are injections better for muscle gains?
@@danielrinaldo6680 injections are gonna be the best for gains!
Once a week testosterone is going to be a thing of the past. It causes major swings up and down and isn’t mimicking normal physiology at all. Micro dosing daily is the future
I feel the same on day one as I do on day seven. No difference at all.
@@joeldunsdon9801 What are your thoughts on pellets?
I was gonna start microdosing but noticed my vial says single use- how do you micro dose if that’s the case
@@leagueofgainz You can also preload syringes and put them in a skinny glass or some sort of container so that they are upright
yeah I just get extra syringes at a pharmacy and shoot half dose twice a wk. Having said that 200mg T cyp per wk is twice what I need if I'm not drinking so .5ml every 7 days keeps me sorted at 52 y/o.
has anyone heard of underarm application? please elaborate if you have. thx
Would this achieve the same levels as transcrotal if dosed slightly higher?
What about scrotal creams?
Want to hear more about this!
My T levels are 187 nearing my next shot which I get once a month and I never have any energy
Is this bad for your hearty and will you get quick muscle gains
TRT isn't a steriod
@@jassa2160 Testosterone is a naturally produced Steriod in the body and the primary male sex hormone.
TRT is replacing low test levels
Cycles that include other compounds like Deca Mast or Tren are BB cycles
Anyone that uses scrotal cream, how were you able to get over the insomnia from applying at night, if it had that effect on you, it’s the only thing keeping me from using it. Would like to give it a go again.
I never had that issue but I cut the normal dose in 1/2 and applied once in the morning and once in the evening.
My endocrinologist (at the VA) refuses to give me anything other than Androgel 1.62% (2 pumps daily). She says the numbers are good enough (low 400s) and the shot peaks/dips too much. But I still feel like absolute ass!
Dude, if I was naturally at 400 I’d be investigating going on TRT.
"she says" there's your problem lol. Get a male doctor that understands this stuff. Your doctor is a pharma graduate that does everything the pharma company taught her. 400 is abysmal and she is clearly clueless
@@germanrud9904 lol sounds about right, thanks 👍
I'm a vet....diagnosed with hypogonadism....va had me on tramadol for 6 years....got off and found out about the low T. Went to the Low T Clinic and have stuck with them for almost 4 years. Fk the VA.
@@kmd4614 Tram lowered your T? Mine is from a tumor in my head from a TBI caused by an IED. The tumor was pressing on the pituitary gland which regulates hormones. I went to the low T clinic also but it's $200 a month and the VA is free lol The clinic will take VA insurance but I need a referral which the VA won't give me.
Can I get my prescriptions and fill them at a local pharmacy? I don't wanna stay with a clinic. I just want my treatment at costs. I was diagnosed with hypogandism, but I can't afford my treatment with telemedicine clinics. Goodrx has all my treatments at 1/10th the cost, they charged me. They wouldn't give me my prescriptions to take to a local pharmacy
What about the pellets?
What is the rationale for using exogenous testosterone for therapy? I whole heartedly believe Clomid and HCG be used for men before adding creams or gels. Why not unregulated your own production and max it out first? Unless of course you have primary gonad failure. I believe most docs jump to testosterone injections instead of dialing in Clomid and maybe HCG on top and anastrozole as needed.
Upregulate*
Agreed. HCG can be used along side clomid 25mg EOD and 1k iu HCG every week. AI .5 twice week or more
The mental health side effects of clomid are terrible.
Thanks for your input Dr Perkins
Blocking estrogen from binding to your brain...Where it's supposed to be binding. And you want to use a AI on top of that? It's a self defeating cycle. You block the pituitary gland from getting the estrogen, so it signals testes to increase T production, which naturally creates more estrogen and DHT ect , so then you block that with an AI?..This whole model relies on denying your system estrogen . How long is that viable?
So what about increased risk of blood clots, and prostate cancer. What about when you stop TRT replacement and your body no longer produces the testosterone levels that it used to?
A good clinic does lab work ,extensive lab work every six months. They check all your markers, liver, kidney function white cell blood count etc
If you’re on trt it’s because your body already isn’t producing testosterone how it’s supposed to genius
I used cyp for about a month with no injection site issues... I started seeing swelling in the area around the injection site, with redness, heat, and itching... Don't know what caused this, but I stopped and haven't continued... Any ideas what caused this??
Pretty sure thats normal
ive been using perrigo injectable test for a few years and the last six months of using it.I feel like I have the flu for days after injecting it>anyone ever have these issues?
I did, on sustanon. Did it once weekly and would have a large bulge on my shoulder that was red and warm to the touch. After a day of injecting I would start to have flu like symptoms. I switched to enanthate after those 2 months and since have not had any of those side effects. Seems like different compounds affect people differently.
Dosage was Sustanon 350 mg once a week @ 1cc.
Enanthate 200 mg once a week @ .8cc.
Best of luck man!
i have been on a generic gel for about 4 years now, im 52 years old and my test was around 250 when first tested. the gel is very inconsistent, dr will do labs and sometimes its 800 sometimes its 1200. the dr does not have an answer . he wants me around 700. i went to trt 6 months ago . the numbers stay around 1100 now , no back and forth . my drs HATE TRT, they have all negative comments on it .
It seems as if it's still almost taboo at times to talk about it with people. I'm not a doctor, but definitely do what gives you the best, most fulfilling quality of life. Do you feel good? Because I'm almost certain you do.
I inject myself on the quads, I'm fairly lean on that part of my body, I normally use a 25 gauge needle, but I don't know if thats going to be IM or SQ and if the oil will be absorbed properly, now, if a use a 27 gauge will be SQ and will absorbed properly? Great informative video
I recently heard about TRT and its really overwhelming. There's so many conflicting ideas of whether or not its good for the person. The immediate effects does look really good but the long term effect mentioned on like Harvard Health, MayoClinic, WebMD on things like cardiovascular problem, strokes, and death from heart disease discourages me from trying it. I will need to do more research on this but there hasn't been much data on long term effect yet.
Research it because the cons you stated aren't proven.
@@Terror_Rick exactly! They don't want us to feel amazing they need us fat and sick and weak! So we get pharmaceutical companies, rich, politicians, rich, etc.
Like skylar said, Dive into some more research.
The things you stated usually only become an issue when the person is using really high doses of test.
If you stay within the high normal range, eat good, and very importantly also do cardio, I don’t think it will take 1 day off your lifespan to be completely honest.
Increased risk of blood clots, and prostate cancer...with TRT.@@Terror_Rick
I'm looking to have my PCP test my testosterone. Not sure if she'll allow TRT if I'm anywhere in the range, which we all know is a huge range. I'm not quite sure how to get her on board if my level is on the low end of the range.
Took me years to get on trt at 1 sustanon250 a week especially if used steroids before Dr's get very very very hesitant, I had to prove I hadn't used gear for Years before they'd help me. Sux but stay with it You'll get on Just go to different Dr 👍
It's easy to get it. Just get some and do it on your own. Then after a while abruptly stop taking it. Your levels will go to like nothing and any doc will give them to you that offers hrt, I recommend the pellets if just having hormone therapy is what you want. Bio te is what they are called. I will have to warn you. It's about 2500 a year, which isn't alot to me maybee others, and once you start .. you will always be on it. No matter what anyone's says.. you will feel horrible for a long time once you stop taking it. So if it's something you want to take for ever and are comfortable with that. Go for it. The pellets suck getting implanted its pretty uncomfortable.. brought my levels too 1100.. I get side effects when I've done higher with injections.. I don't know how people do so much..1100 levels work fine for me. I've had 1500 levels on injections and my red blood cells were through the roof. I quit taking it and my test was 180 and I got a doctor to give me pellets. It was a 330 before I took anything ever.
Tell her your going to find a real doctor
What about increased blood clots, and increased prostate cancer?@@limitless5748
What about testosterone undacanoate (androcap)?
My free test came in at 6.6 and 7.7 yesterday, is that low?
Yes
My PSA has went up from 1.5 to 3.9 over a year and a half. Does trt cause psa to go up? I have no prostate symptoms
Yes exogenous testostorone can raise psa when it converts to dht. Gel converts to dht at a much higher rate than injections.
Serioulsy TRT injections 1 a week? What is this 2010?
Is 2 times better?
My question is if you inject testosterone, is there a danger of interfering withe the body natural testosterone, I guess my question is is there something I should use along with injection therapy 🤔
any time you take test you are going to shut down your natural production
Its not a danger its a 100% guarantee that if you inject testosterone (or take any steroid) you will shutdown the body natural production.
If your body is producing adequate Test naturally why would you go on therapy?
If your body is not producing adequate Test then why bother stopping therapy?
TRT is used to fix a temporary problem or a permanent solution. Taking hormones “recreationally” will put your test levels in the gutter for 6-18months and will most likely not return to the previous levels
My free and bio available Test is high...307 on my free and 659 on my bio available...my total is 957...any advice..I am on 100mg a week...don't see Dr for 2 weeks
thankyou the content sir
I take nandrolone along with test cyp. Nandrolone is supposed to be joint protective. I remember reading about site injection directly to injury sites might provide better healing of damaged tissues. At the time it was just theory and no studies existed. Is there any merit to this idea . I've got shoulder issues and would try it if it's feasible.
Look into BPC-157 mate.
I just add NPP (nandrolone phenylproprionate, short ester) to my trt. I as well have shoulder issues and noticed a marked improvement. Only concern is long term usage and I had to raise my trt dose, so in theory my "HRT" is no longer 'HRT" but a moderate cycle (200 test cyp / 150 npp per week).
That's an anabolic steroid cycle
I have hypothyroidism and have been on medication since 2018....I am now 50 but STILL don't feel like my sex drive is what it should be.The last blood panels said my T levels
were fine so I doubt my doctor would recommend any T Therapy.Anyone have any suggestions?
The doctors are BS..they go by a set of rules...so they see a 50yo and if let's say your 300 they think your okay but you know it's BS. You actually should be over 1000..I see Dr Maupin from BioBalance in StLouis for pellets. Go to her yt channel..she is a legit doctor. I actually ignored my wife eho gas gone to her and my first run of pellets OMG - I felt alive and strong- focused and some of my inflammation in my hands went away. I just had my 5 months new pellets inserted today..she believes that men shouldn't be ranged by age but rather by what a young man has..btw..im 51
@@rhdtv2002 Thanks for the reply...My Testosterone count is 596 but my free testosterone is 10 and that seems on the low end.The problem is it is basically just my sex drive that I want improved.I really don't have any problems with lack of energy or depression.I sleep fairly well.I'll check the lady's YT channel out.Thanks again.
@@asianoramaagain2269 yep that's low..mine was 695 and about 11 free t but after the pellets..wow..
@@rhdtv2002 Yeah,but I will have to go through my primary provider initially because I don't know if I should do t therapy in addition to the thyroid medicine I'm on.I pulled a major blunder with a quack overseas doctor back in 2013.I received a testosterone injection (thinking it would give me a boost) and was horrified when it made me completely impotent for around a month.Needless to say,I will be EXTREMELY careful this time around.
SubQ or IM doesn’t matter tbh. Either way injections work wayyy better than cream or orals
I didn't get anything from this. Just alot of rambling on
Heard the newer bases that testosterone cream is compounded with are better.
Thanks for this. What do you mean by ‘newer bases’? Can you give us some examples of these?
@@bevnae versabase, lipoderm
@@gif24gt60 thanks man, hugely appreciate. I’ve got T base powder, is there anything else other than versabase/lipoderm needed to add to make a useable transdermal?
The problem is cost it's way overpriced in the U.S . As is all pharmaceuticals here.
The injection is $5 a mnth with insurance.
@@calvinchauvin78 most GPs will only raise you to "normal" levels, which that means anything north of 300 ng/dL is considered normal... for my age group I've read studies that show the AVERAGE T levels are in the 600s (I'm 53) - insurance companies in the west are just criminal.
Does it help with erectile disfiction?
Of course
For me the gel kicks ass and is extremely easy to use, I also like the ability to tweak the amount by starting small and if needed applying just a tad more. This would not be an option with injectables.
Sal, you missed a great chance to name your book Mein Pump. Next book maybe?
My doctor tried to give me a implant on my butt cheek last 6 months. Has anyone had that method done before
The ballls should iuse hcg
So much conflicting information out there. I’m on cream, applied to my scrotum, and there are multiple doctors who believe that’s actually a better delivery method than injection.
Really? I nvr heard of this. How much did your testosterone rise?
@@kh-fk3ko I started with 2 tests, a 199 total T, with a free of 3... yes, 3. Three months on the cream, my next test 645 total 13 free, increased application to twice a day, now 900 total and 20 free. There is no branded cream, it has to be made by a compounding pharmacy. Because I apply daily (now twice daily), there are no peaks and valleys in my level, it stays basically the same 24/7. Some evidence this method leads to more DHT conversion, and I have seen a slight increase in chest/stomach hair, but so far no impact on the hair on my head.
@@nate665 hmm it might better than the injections I use.
@@kh-fk3ko I'm needle phobic, like pass out from blood draws kind of needle phobic. If I had to pin myself, I never would have gone on TRT.
@@nate665 I don't mind it but I have to Inject two ro three times a week.
If a man approaching his 50's still has a testosterone level of around 860...is TRT off the table? Would there be any benefit from starting? I don't want to use it for PEDs, per se, but simply to counter aging.
Dam those are good levels for your 50s
@@drsgme69 Not yet...48...
A man in his 50s should be in the 450 to 550 range. A reputable doctor probably won't prescribe unless your at least in 300s
Totally depends. Your total may be high but free t in the toilet. Have you symptoms? Etc etc. you need blood work
Do you feel good if so than stay the hell away 😂😂😂 you don't appear to be bloody aging with 860 natural 😂😂😂 do you have libido
Don Draper from Madmen looking jacked af
Hoping someone can help me out. I started TRT 8 weeks ago. Level was 237.32 I get 150ML injections every two weeks. Did lab work to check levels two days ago got the results back and my testosterone level has dropped to 200.32 my progesterone is 1.48 pg/mL and estradiol is 35.23 pg/mL what is going on??
Injection frequency protocol is incorrect. You should start by dosing 50 mg to 75 mg twice weekly. Your injections are spaced way too far apart so that after two weeks the testosterone you injected is long gone. Not sure what kind of testosterone you are using, if it is testosterone cypionate it has a half life of about a week. Look into it, will make a huge difference.
If a Doctor gave you such a protocol, I highly recommend you to find another one. 150mg every 2 weeks is totally silly. Instead of doing 150mg every 2 weeks try 50mg every 5 days, you'll already feel better, more stable levels. Do not hesitate to challenge your Dr. Good luck to you 🤞🤞🤞
You likely need closer to 300mg every two weeks, or better yet 150mg weekly. Most people start out with 200mg weekly and titrate down from there.
Definitely the period of 2 weeks is too much. 1 week max.
When was the blood test done, how many days after the shot? If it was done on day 13 most likely it is shit again. How do you feel on day 4 and day 13? Most guys are doing between 120 and 150 a week from what I read.
@@robertkooiman27 hello is 2 Times 50mg a Week good ? Subkutan?
Test prop, best for sexdrive, test cyph injections I had kinda bad blood work and things. The doses people say are insane to take. I had 1500 test levels on 1.5 ccs a week. My nipples were sensitive some, I cried watching movies that were sad very bad, all test for me is horrible acne, I get the test pellets now and they don't last 6 months, they last 4 and I go every 4.5 months.. when they insert the pellets it sucks very bad.. but it raises my test to 1100.. I don't have high red blood , I don't have bad side effects except acne. The last 2 weeks before I get my implant I do some test prop for sex. Besides that I think steroids aren't bad when you monitor your blood work and know your test levels. 1300 is pushing it.. 1500 is going to make things abnormal and over that I haven't tried it because for me a 1500 was intense. Go with the pellets unless you want intense side effects .. maybee that's worth it to others. Pellets are legal, and cost about 750 bucks for 4.5 months. No ups and downs.. no scar tissue from injections..good blood work.. feel good.. no matter what if your prone to acne it's all bad.
Nice to see Patrick Swayze back from the dead!
I will never forget the day I came across dr igho channel on UA-cam, I will always keep it memorable, thank you doctor for helping me boost my testosterone naturally, you made me feel more of a man, Thank you Dr!!
bro can you help me
How can I increase my testosterone level naturally?
@@noname-gm7jk icing your balls 3 times a day for 20 minuts it works look it up
The gel was a big waste of time for me.
Nobody hear has heard of subdermal pellets? Wtf?
How about anally?
I admit the cream or gel sounds better to me only because sticking yourself every week seems like you could be leaving a lot of bruises all over yourself from constantly injecting yourself
only if you inject improperly
Wimp
I have gel, but want the injection. I dont feel to much improvement with 2 1% androgel packets everymorning. Last test had 52 free t and 350 total t. He said new test is to high..i mean how high can it really be, i dont trust these non jacked doctors like Rogan says. When I explain to him that I cant do the pumps to do an actual workout this wusses have no idea what that means or is like. A weightlifting atletic male will notice low t over a normal person or doctor because we actually use our t levels for years and no how much it afgects our workouts. And not that wussy cardio crap that doctors seem so adminent about
I’ve never had bruising, barely any blood. U don’t even notice where you pinned yourself after 5 minutes. That’s a myth my friend. Also the injections u don’t even feel really. It just takes a little bit of time to get used to doing them yourself.
Go to the website, file out the form and then get inundated with junk mail!
🤣🤣🤣🤣
Pellets of bioidentical test FTW
Sick background jersey, this guy fucks….
Is testosterone 250 injection every 14 days the same as doing a weekly dose?
No your getting one large bolus dose then dropping down to sub optimal before your next shot
gonna get trt when i hit 45
Why wait. I started at 25
@@hurricane8634 Why?
@@kartikbhardwaj4406 I hate a opiate problem for years so when I got sober I had no sex drive and low test.
@@kartikbhardwaj4406 not bad but once I was enhanced I never wanted to go back.
@@hurricane8634 Why u never wanted go back tho?
I dont like needles
Hands down injectable is better.
Sorry but no child should be coming into contact with a man's testosterone gel if applied to the inner thigh. There's just no risk of this for anyone other than child molesters. Applying to the inner thigh should be cross contamination risk free.
I inject 40mgs every other day.
what size needle and gauge?
@@DJDiagnostix Inulin slim pins. Since it's such a small amount. I
This is someone with obviously no experience with testosterone cream. The cream works just as good if not better in most men for testosterone therapy when done correctly. You should interview someone that has more experience with the various delivery systems. When somebody doesn't have experience with cream it shows in an interview like this. So much miss information that could harm men because not everyone wants to inject. Yes we know injections work but the cream also works just as good with somebody that has experience in using it.
Once a week is terrible
😂nebido 1 gram 4ml evry 12 weeks .
Is this Dr on steroids or trt??
300mg a week TRT
@@tonyfontana8451 God damn!!!!
Subq vs Im
Gibberish.