DeWalt Xtreme Sub-Compact 12v Brushless ⅜" Impact Wrench Review
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- Опубліковано 25 лип 2024
- in this 18-minute video is a review, test and demonstration as well as a comparison with the larger dcf887 as well as a quick tear down to take a look at how well it's built
DCF902, DCF902F2 . .
I watched 4 videos on this tool and yours is by far the best. You really helped me decide that this is the one for me. Thanks I have subscribed. Good work.
I own this, the screw gun and the hammer drill (thanks ACME Tools!) and bought the drill driver/impact driver kit for my dad. Love the line! Nice when I’m doing something that doesn’t quite call for the power of my Multivolt stuff.
Just picked this up for $84 at Lowe’s. I’m a Milwaukee fanboy but couldn’t pass this up. Always appreciate your reviews, thank you sir.
$84 for tool only?
I just did some tests with mine and when I run down a nut in the precision control mode it seems to work fantastic for me. There was definitely an abrupt stop, decent pause and then it continued to hammer. I have to say I’m pretty impressed with this feature. After watching yours a few times it looks like yours may be defective. Yours goes into hammer mode way faster than mine. Is it possible that the fixed a flaw and this happens to a certain amount of tools and not others?? Again, great review. Thank you
great review! thanks for the teardown also.
That floor reminds me of how resturant floors looked when I was a little kid and everything was built in the 60s or 70s
As always a very well done and comprehensive review. I imagine the Milwaukee 12V Stubby is a more capable impact wrench. However at a bare tool price of $175. USD it seems too pricey relative to the DeWalt Xtreme which includes 2 batteries, dual voltage charger and a contractor bag for $99. USD. Thanks for posting these helpful vids!
cardo yes Milwaukee is more expensive but it’s a much better more powerful tool. I have both and the dewalt doesn’t have near the power of Milwaukee stubby. I live up north in the rust belt and you need the extra power. The dewalt is nice however don’t expect much out of it.
Good to know, I live in the NY metro area we have to deal with rust as well though not as bad as where you are. Always rather more power than not enough (especially when adjustable). I still think that $179.00 USD for the bare tool is too much, let's see what Black Friday or Cyber Monday may bring, if any deal on the Stubby impacts.
cardo I agree it is expensive bro. Go to eBay you can usually find it cheaper. I bought the hammer drill and impact 18v the new set normally 400 in store got it on eBay for 230. It is more money but it can do a lot more. The thing I like about the dewalt is the handle and the light. I have the Milwaukee stubby and the hi torque. I do like the light and the grip on the dewalt though. The price on the dewalt was so cheap I had to get it to check it out. It’s nice for really small stuff though. If you plan on fixing and maintaining cars though I wouldn’t recommend it. Get the 1/2 harbor freight impact sockets they’re awesome and super cheap. Extensions are good too. The Milwaukee is worth every penny though.
Peep18m Appreciate all the info, I'm a little paranoid buying off eBay if it's not an authorized retailer. I'm not sure if Milwaukee would try to get out of a warranty claim if I had one. I have found some good deals in recent months for Milwaukee cordless power tools online looking out for HD's Special Buys or Special Buy of the day promotions. I bought the Mid Torque kit have not had a chance to use it yet, hoping it can handle Honda axle nuts. Love the High Torque seems a little big and heavy for most of my needs, but HD has it for $250. with the 5 amp battery, that seems like a solid deal. I handled the Dewalt's at Lowes and they do feel very nice in the hand especially the 12V Xtremes. The M12 series I really like but the handles are a little on the thick side for most of us with the integrated handle battery, but they are very good tools. Thanks again 👍🏽
cardo oh yeah I don’t like the Milwaukee handles at all lol. If you file for a warranty online it’s no biggie. There’s engravings on the tools that tell them the warranty info. He has had good deals as well as acme tools. I have the high torque and I wouldn’t trade it for nothing. That thing is def worth every penny. Hd has the buy the impact get a free 5.0 battery. The m18 handles are very nice nothing like m12 tools. Anytime brother take care and enjoy whatever you get 👍🏼👍🏼
FYI: The F/R switch has a center position that locks trigger so that the light and motor can't be turned on inside a bag or tool box.
As for the membrane switch cover: I've seen those deteriorated by oils, chemicals and sunlight. My Sears window a/c disintegrated from sunlight. My neighbor has identical unit, never been exposed to sunlight, is still good. Now I can only use the remote to operate A/C. My microwave oven, tossed it after 5 years, only issue was switch covers. Guessing cleaning agents deteriorated plastic. So yeah, hopefully it holds up. Or is available and dirt cheap to replace in future.
I have this wrench and the 12v screwdriver. I use the screwdriver for doing smaller jobs around the house and electronic work.
You certainly will be able to see what your working on when underneath a vehicle. I can't remember ever seeing more built-in lighting than that impact has. Nice.
Unfortunately for me, I ran out and got into the 20v Earthquake XT cordless platform when they came out. The 3/8" impact is fine for most things and the 1/2" is a powerhouse which I rarely need. I assumed there was going to be a huge family of high-end cordless tools to choose from eventually. But so far, I've regretted that decision and it becomes more regrettable as time goes on and other manufacturers release bigger & better platforms.
AWESOME REVIEW!!
Where did you get the apex adapters for screws? Can you get the same thing for drill bits?
Are you running the impact on high or low when running against the impact driver
I just got this and works great. This is not really meant for vehicle wheel lug nuts though. Its great for working on my motorcycle and other things where its less likely to strip something out than my more powerful tools.
Great video,just ordered this with battery for $79
I've been wanting the Milwaukee stubby forever been waiting for a new 1 to come out or to go on sale but for 100$ for the tool 2 batteries and charger is hard to pass on the dewalt...If it wasn't so cheap I'd def go with the milwaukee becuz the batteries work with so many other tools but damn 100$
If you only squeeze trigger half way in precision mode it will impact slower when it starts after the pause.
I have this thing, it’s excellent, the only thing, does a crap ton of impacts and it sounds annoying compared to my other 1/2” drive larger impact wrenches which do firmer but less impacts. That smart mode is great for snugging up bolts prior to getting the torque wrench on them for final torque.
Where did you get the bit adapter
Really nice and powerful.
I got one it gets into those tights spots when working on my car and enough power to brake lose brake caliper bolt.
Bought one a couple weeks back, work on diesel powered pumps for a rental company, I will say this little thing is actually pretty good. I use it on a bunch of tight access bolts for example starter bolts, it can tuck up behind the starter on most of our pumps. Yes it is not very powerful but I didn’t buy it to bust loose rusted and seized bolts. So to me money well spent.
I got 3 brand new ones bare tools locally off Facebook mrkt place for only $40 each, how about this as a deal breaker ?
This is great for automotive. Fits in tight spots.
Hey, do you still have this in your collection? To do a side by side with the 3/8th model with the larger body that came out on the 12v line?
Yes I still have this one and I picked up the half inch 12 volt French which is about twice the power I'll do a comparison video soon here
@@CatusMaximus I'm sure the 3/8th of the 5ah one is just a different head unit.
Saw them at lowes for labor day $99 full kit
That's why I got it, that's a heck of a good price! 👌
Do you know if DeWalt has a 1/4 anvil that will work in this new 12 xtreme?
Zack I don’t think so
Looks nice. But already on the Milwaukee platform
Great video especially the break down. Theres no doubt the dewalt has the market with ergonomics and LED capabilities. The only problem I have with the this dewalt it claims to have 125lbs. of break away power. You'd be lucky if you hit 110-115 max. Torq some bolts down and check them yourselves.
The torque rating is probably quoted with their more expensive 3:00 amp battery versus a 2:00 amp that comes with it
@@CatusMaximus maybe you should try it for yourself? Don't get me wrong it's a great tool but the break away power is really off.
921 atomic is the stubby rival and really does beat it barely but id say even. 902 is super fun to use cause it’s so small but really not much of any power. Still nice tool
I think people need to take into consideration what you use a 3/8 impact for. Mostly small fasteners, maybe from 8mm but mostly 10-15mm bolts. Those usually aren’t too tight. 3/8 impacts aren’t designed to remove huge bolts like some people expect. This seems more than adequate for those small fasteners.
Great review cat, I find the dewalt pretty weak. I bought the 3/8 stubby and it’s hands down much better. I have both of them and I will be taking the dewalt back. There are a few things I like about the dewalt. The light and the handle but that’s about it. It needs more power if it had the power of the stubby I’d buy 12v dewalt all day over Milwaukee. Considering it isn’t even close I gotta pass. The 200ft lbs breakaway is a joke. It struggled on my lugnut that were 100. It did get them yes but it took a few sec to get them. Milwaukee zips then right off like nothing. I live in the rust belt so power matters a lot to me more than price. I’m not a value kinda guy I want the best you can get price be damned. I’ll pay more for not having to get up 10+ times to go get another tool to do the job at hand. I’ll pay more for that convenience any day ntm a better warranty as well. Sometimes you actually do get what you pay for.
If you want power and reliability without question than you would use a 3/8 air impact no electric tool comes close to the top end air tools.
I got the Milwaukee M12 second gen impact and drill I'll do a review on. I agree the Milwaukee's are more powerful you can get larger batteries and they have a wider selection of tools, and a longer warranty. to bad their ergonomics are horrible. And the electronics are more questionable than the dewalt's mainly because they have to cram everything in that tiny little circuit board that they can't even protect. My review will include a teardown.
Catus Maximus I agree the handle and the light on the dewalt are def better. But that’s about it though. Well the price on it too is stupid cheap lol 👍🏼
nice socks and shoes combo tho swag swag
Hey question for you? I also am reviewing the new dewalt impact driver, do you care if I tell people about your video and put a link to your page in the description of mine? I really like your take apart videos.
That would be fine
@@CatusMaximus okay thanks because they already mentioned you in my video that everybody should go check out your tool breakdown video cuz they're awesome.
I don't think the comment about using smaller sockets is correct. When I use a short impact socket on my car's lugnuts, it just rattles around, but the heavier deepwell takes them right off. Greater mass helps, which happened in this video too.
Got the kit for $87 after tax. Ebay lowe's coupon $20 off $100 purchase.
How you did?
been seeing this for $130ish with 2 batterys and been thinking about it, but I think I like the m12 more which I have the setup already.
They are $99 at Lowe's now.
There are a great buy/value, but, having used both, it’s not in the same league as an m12 stubby. It’s more comparable to the m12 1/4 impact. He said 15 less for the dewalt....more like 75 or 100.
It shows lug nuts being removed with these. Mine does nothing. Won't budge one at 52 ft. lbs. I'll be returning it. I can use the $120.
I love dewalt
Do you plan on doing a Milwaukee m12 stubby teardown?
Milwaukee cordless tools really are quite expensive that's why I end up getting the dewalt's I could get a big set with a drill and impact in four batteries for still less money than just the basic Milwaukee stubby impact driver set.
The Milwaukee's are pretty nice I may do that at some point in the future
this should be a , "i bought another milwaukee impact wrench" video
Just got one today the small ring popped off after i put on the first attachment?? Wth
Ouch, I've had hog rings pop off every once in awhile but not when they're brand new it must have not been crimped on very well. Mine has been pretty good even when I put a socket on it that had way too deep of undercuts and was jamming I had to pry it off of a screwdriver
Nice review 👍 but I still don't understand the DeWalt 12 volt line
Think of a car model that comes with a variety of motors, all at different prices. A 4 or 6 cylinder car will have lighter suspension, rear end, and brakes than a V8, which allows the manufacturer to price the car into a range that is affordable for many more people than the V8 car.
This impact is only $99 with 2 batteries. A similar 20v is 50% more expensive.
But, besides all the above, it's a game. What would Dewalt designers & engineers do if the company only released a new 20v tool every 5 years? They'd be out of a job, the company would lose talented experienced enployees. Thus, a new 12v tool line to design, build and sell.
@@bartprice3439 🤙
Not every job requires an 18v power tool... I can only surmise that if you're asking that question, you don't really understand tools.... ? I was operating a cherry-picker for a locksmith company changing locks and hinges on a university building in Oxford. The guy in the basket with me was using 18v Makitas, which, nice tools, seemed oversized for the job. I happened to have my 12v 1st Gen kit in the van. I said to him "Try this impact driver and drill, see how you get on". By the end of the day, he was sold on it, found a kit on eBay and ordered it. I met him on another job some weeks later and he well chuffed with the kit and had already bought a couple more DeWalt tools... I've been using DeWalt tools since 2014 and, apart from a couple of battery issues that got sorted, I've had no problems... btw, check out the Flexvolt series of tools... see what you make of those.
Love, Light and Peace
DeWaltaholic UK I have some flex volt stuff they definitely putout! What I meant by this was. these tools are almost just as expensive and really not that much more compact then the 20volt offerings. I like the vertical type of battery because they tuck into the handle and don’t get in the way. I am sure these are a fine tool but there compact line is kinda a joke with what they offer and there charging a big box premium for an economy compact tool.
Junk: I kinda get where you're coming from but my 12v stuff became my go-to tools for most jobs (general contractor) although I do have 18 & 54v tools... i like the compactness, balance and general feel of these tools. And, working from a cherry-picked, that all contributes when in a confined space and weight is a primary consideration, especially when there are 2 people in the basket... £159 for DCF902, 2x2ah batteries, case and charger... I feel it's the money as it's been updated with more than brushless motor... check out Catus Maximus videos with the tear down showing the internal workings.... :-)
For $100 Dewalt you can't beat it. You can't buy any 3/8 impact for that let alone a name brand compact.
Using 3/8 one does not need 250 ft-lbs of torque. If you are working on motorcycles (like Yamaha/Kawi) ect... One has to know the feel of the fastener. Plus, 5mm/6mm bolts the Millwa-CHINA will be snapping them all off and the handle as you stated is HUGE on the MIlweChina.
So you like the DeChinaPartsWalt better?
I agree. I bought this for my car and truck. However, I will use it on my motorcycles.
I've been using the 12V Hercules impact on my bikes. I really like it, especially for Allen and Phillips head screws. It does not hit hard in the first few impacts, so it doesn't strip or snap 4mm screws. But it will break about 50 ft lbs torqued hardware. Personally I like ergonomics better than the Dewalt. The variable speed trigger on the Herc is nicely progressive.
I haven't bought a 1/4" hex adapter for the Dewalt 3/8" yet or used it on wood screws or my motorcycles. But it worked great pulling transmission to replace flywheel, clutch and rebuilding the 5 speed on my S10 4x4. Worked on almost all the nuts & bolts. I only needed to use a 1/4" drive air ratchet for a few near-zero clearance bolts. I'll say it's nice not to have to mess around with an air hose while under a rig on a creeper.
Also, I caught a Volvo station wagon and myself on a creeper on fire by igniting leaking gas with my brushed 110v impact that shoots sparks off the brushed motor. The brushless Dewalt should eliminate that potential issue. I never want to go through that terror again.
Well, my most used 3/8” impact is rated at 600, so I disagree. Lol
I have a 1/4 impact for little stuff, and 3 or 4 3/8 impacts from the likes of this one, and m12 stubby, and a 2852 Milwaukee which is actually just a mid torque half with a 3/8 anvil. Just put a clutch in a freightliner without touching a 1/2” socket or impact. Driveshaft, Carrier bearing, bell bolts, flywheel bolts, clutch bolts....3/8”. Now, that said, I could use a cheaper 1/2” impact and sockets and swivels and do the same job maybe, but it’s bigger bulkier stuff. Not an excess of room under a floorboard. I’m rather partial to my above 250 3/8 stuff.
No sir they make 2 more impacts in the xtreme, both have 250 f and 400 r, one with 3/8 and half inch
That new impacts, is much larger and also does not have the setting speed switch.
@@SnD340 nope same length, they are subcompact models, just a tad thicker, I own all 3 of them
@@SnD340 they are not much larger, u must be thinking of the 20 volt, all the xtreme models are small
@@SnD340 being small is the goal with the xtreme line....
Now they need to put a 1/4 anvil on it!
Prolly better off just using a impact driver with a 1/4 anvil adapter.
I actually buy 1/4” impacts, because I get tired of losing and breaking adapters. I do have an old makita hex impact driver for bits though.
This wrench couldn’t take off my lugs tightened by a tire shop, but when I broke them and tightened them down to 100 it could. Why is DeWalt saying 200 foot pounds of breakaway? Are they upping the juice on breakaway through a clever bit of electrical engineering?
See if it does any better if he using the absolute shortest lightest socket
No it's the nature of impacts company should not right nut busting torque that measurement only occurs when you take the Anvil the tool and put it in a vise with a pressure sensor. Also Torque from Impact is highly variable due to the size and weight of the sockets the size and weight of the fastener etcetera.
Impact wrenches are kinetic energy tools and every bit of mass and any spring activity that they have to unnecessarily accelerate just takes away from their power if you have really long 2 ft and 3 foot extensions even a giant air impact could barely remove a lug nut
Have you tried those heavy sockets made for honda crank bolts? They say they have more rotational inertia.
Those are completely ridiculous yes I have that is an item just to pull money out of somebody's pocket believe me any 19 mm quality impact socket will remove on the crank bolts you do not need one with half inch thick walls. That extra inertia actually means it's just sucking away more power from your impact wrench because there's more weight for the impact that have to try to accelerate in addition to the bolt
Catus are you a professional mechanic to base your review of the inertia socket to remove Honda crank bolts?
@@foodskewed9197 He had a video showing the difference between heavy and light weight sockets.
By the way y ru comparing a 12 v to a 20v
Just watch the video heavy vs light sockets.
Milwaukee is da-best
Milwaukee is Chinese engineered junk lol
I can’t stand the Milwaukee 12v line just my opinion I really dislike the grip of them. Makita or Dewalt none other then those 2
Put some clear tape over it
So. I'm a hacker. In the purest sense. And when you slightllyyyyyyyy squeeze on low mode. It will cut the lights out. Just a bit of a squeeze and the line cuts.
I didn't know if anyone noticed.
I think that is a issue with your unit, Mine dies not do that.
@@CatusMaximus I like it, nothing seems to be off with it. And I have to be justttttt so slight to make it happen.
Now they are selling them for $120
The Milwaukee m12 3/8" is probably twice as powerful as that dewalt 12v. VCG Construction ran the m12 1/4" which is only rated for 1100 in lbs. And it did circles around that 3/8"
Problem is breaking small 5mm/6mm bolts and possibly 8mm bolts NOT the head size is that the biggest misnomer. It is a useless tool when it breaks things and if you can't feel what a bolt is doing the tool is junk. Now if someone is Hercules and leaves behind wreckage of stripped/broken bolts then I guess the MilwaCHINA is for you.
It can't be that hard to use, I am retarded and I haven't broken anything yet. Dewilt has the same china defect tho, and is over all an inferior tool. I mean if you're using an impact wrench to put in 8mm or 9mm bolts without finishing the job with a ratchet, then you shouldn't be given an impact. This whole xtreme line of tools seems like a grabass attempt to enter the 12v line. But y'all dewalt guys have always been a little fragile, it's an ugaduga gun, it's not made for fine cabinetry and carpenters.
Oh you said 5mm or 6mm bolts yea I would say even an impact driver would break that off if you got too careless. I mean you're setting the bar awfully low and still tripping over it. Gotta love the logic of the dewalt fandoms. They make some good tools but if you're not gonna bring any advantages other than 3 light rings and ergonomics then just stay home.
@@Zachariahfml I used the Snapon 3/8 CT years ago it was awesome. I tend to gravitate to them on items like this. The 1/4 impact from them is my go to.
@@mt1885 you went from bad to worse. First dewalt now snap on
Who the hell sad the liter the sock the better the impact REALLY REALLY CAS MACKING A HAMMER LITER MAKE IT HIT HARDER REALLY AAAAAAA PISSEDE OFFFFFFF
too bad the buttons are just a simple decal over membrane switch, yep that's not going to last long in good condition ☹️
I prefer my Snap On pneumatic impact guns. These are fine if you are away from a compressor but if you plan right you won't ever need these tools. Edit: there is no replacement for Snap On impact pnuematic drivers. Prove me wrong Catus. Woof!
My nitrocat has more power for a lot less money
@@cbmech2563
Fine. If you really need power nothing beats pnuamatic. For normal use these are ok. If you have limp wrists these are great! For 500 bucks i have 2 guns that flat out work. For 20 years now.
500 bucks 20 years ago? Judging by the inflation in the cost of housing, that’d be like 2 grand in today’s money.
My nitrocat 1200 air impact is quiter than that 500$ snappy with more power (1200/900) for $149 . I agree about air tools but not about the snappy . Snappy doesn't make anything that you can't get as good as or better for less some place else .
@@upsidedowndog1256
When did I say I was a battery fan?