HaHa, my original in game born on date (early 2005 now, original account unrecoverable) I never found a corp that fit me, so back to the streets with me....
Funny cos its so true and must be acknowledged we have more than a few in eve. Having a thick skin and survival instinct of 100 people put together is a must in this game to survive and last the long run.
I heard this about Eve a while back: "Eve is like being a small child walking through a park at night filled with child molesters." After having played it for a while, I find this description highly accurate.
The only reason you have "friends" in EVE is because you don't have anything of value worth killing you over yet. There are people who will be your best buddy for months, then one day they'll just up and kill you, take everything, insult you, and laugh as they warp away leaving your cold corpse floating in a cloud of twisted metal and debris. As a bonus, some will even post videos about it. EVE has often been called "spreadsheets in space". That'd only be true if spreadsheets could murder you in cold blood.
@@silvercat18 this is true in some corps but groups like Karmafleet, Pandemic Horde, and Brave Newbies are really good at welcoming people and we (in Karmafleet) genuinely engage as friends to those we recruit. Ive played since '03 and the community ive worked with as a trainer is why I play.
Xyrus That is actually fucking awesome... call me a sadomasochist, but I love the thrill of the risk, and you know what. If you can plot, strategies and deceit for 3 months, at that point you’ve deserved it!
Heres my quote. "EVE Online is a game where you feel like trying to control a space ship in real life for the first time not knowing a shit about each button."
You misspelled Star Citizen or Elite. I played Eve and "controlling" your ship war just "orbit", "keep at range", "approach", "warp to" so much "controlling" , and double click in space
Sort of, yes. Though I will always argue, is a clone really you, just because it has your memories? Or is it just a full grown test tube baby with an injected persona? I don't think it is true resurrection. That is where the soul comes in. This is more like afflicting the living with a clone of you after you're dead and gone.
I played Eve for 7 years. Been part of very memorable things, like the first Great War, that lasted over a year. In the end, I stopped when I realised that pvp didn't pump me up with adrenaline anymore, and losing a ship only made me think about the logistics of buying and moving another.
as a relatively new player you learn quickly that tormenting you is how the older players have fun.the game design and mechanics compel you into low security space where the older player wait.i was killed 4 times today.since my skill points make it a mathematical impossibility to win an engagement i no longer equipment my ships with guns.just insure your ships to the max and make money everytime youre killed.in the last 2 weeks ive been killed 23 times.give a crap factor is zero
@@andrewpinkham9904 You don't give enough details to identify your problem, but you're obviously doing something very wrong. It could be your autopilot not being set to avoid low-sec systems, or you choosing a pve agent near low-sec space, or you deciding to play in a high-sec area surrounded by low-sec... The game does NOT force you to play in low-sec areas. It only offer slightly greater rewards for doing so.
@@shadowsword8 my problem is i need the isogen found in lowsec so i have to provide an easy target for older players.To do any tier 2 reactions i have to go to lowsec.the programmers did this intentionally so that im content/easy kill for waiting older players.i just put another 80 ventures into the production que.ill drop another 100 miner ones tonight.kill me i couldnt careless.ill make 130k from insurance and you might get one or 2 miner ones.youll get nothing from the cruisers but some gob1s.ill get 5 million plus.i didnt say force i said compel
Ugh..played for almost six years. Realized I had to stop when I found myself triple boxing to blitz through L4s. For a game, Eve has the potential to be horribly stressful, and a real obsession. I both miss it, and don't miss it.
Yep, after quad-boxing my Rorqual mining/indy fleet it just became too much like a second job. However, the game is so far ahead of it's time and honestly, I rather enjoyed the folks who played. I still love EVE with all my gaming soul. I also hate it. Greatest game I ever quit playing.
Hey, I triple box L4 missions on occasion. Make more money incursioning like P SD said, but L4 missions on my own are a fun way to relax when not doing that. ;)
not really. it's technically trivial to even connect the mobile client to the very same main eve servers, the only reason that's not been done is that it wouldn't be fair to PC players due to all the UI shortcuts the mobile version had to take to fit on the screen. in fact, it would be easier to connect the mobile client to the same servers that PC client uses, it's a magnitude more difficult to setup separate servers for mobile which are "the same universe, same size, and same server system"
I was genuinely depressed for a while when my Corp fell apart and disbanded. Years later when I sold everything and left. I had a nyx for several years and never lost it. Sold it off and they got it blown up a week later.
i left the game for half a year after my (owned by me) corp left basically all it's members and it threw me into deppression. got back recently, and the people who were in my corp and left just welcomed me so warmly, no hard feelings, they just hated my "trying to impose a system" approach. now i'm back in the game, trying to find the right balance between mine "we need a system" and theirs "whatever the fuck, lol" approaches.
In 2010 I lost my Caldari Raven Navy Issue in low sec and rage quit for 11 years. Now I'm playing it again because it's such a beautiful and complicated game.
@@Tkieron yesterday i shoot down a miner. He said gf he just looking for some kernite (isogen moved to low sec only recently) l. I told him sorry, he replied it is ok, pvp is part of the game. Suprised how well he received the loss, and we talked a little, told him how I found him, and tld him tips, how to avoid truble. Back then I was too very devastated over losing a ship, but these people showed me much better mental. It kinda changed me in general.
I'm a 45 yo grown up man, father of 3 beautiful kids with a leading job in the IT industry. i considered myself has a reasonable person from the top middle class average (considering my salary). EVE is the only game that make me cry... on 1 occasion, at my beginning (after 1 year of play). I didn't cry on others instances after but i remember my heart race like crazy as if i had a car accident. Don't judge me lol
45 yo grown man with a family and job in IT. Why the hell do you waste you limited time on this planet by sitting by the computer in your free time? Why don't you move your body? How do you think it will look and feel after another 10 years without sport?
@@mareksykora5197 A perfect example of a hasty judgment. But that made me smile because unfortunately for you (and luckily for me lol) i am the exact opposite of your portrait full of stereotype. It is true that I am not sporty. Neither salon nor team or game. I have been a regular of trainning for over 25 years. I train in the gym 4 days a week in cardio and muscle mode. I would not describe my body or my physical abilities, but they are very close to the one we can imagine of a man who has taken his physical and psychological health seriously for years. Psychological because for more than 3 years now I meditate meticulously every day for 30 minutes .... or almost (in holidays with my children it is sometimes difficult to find even a small 30 minutes of freedom) Peace :)
This is an excellent overview explanation! I just hit my 10 year anniversary in Eve and I'm still learning. If you like science fiction and MMOs, you will never find a better game.
no other games have been even close to give me the adrenaline rush ive felt in this game. you know you have a special game, when you find your self in a situation where your hearth going like crazy, and you shaking so badly you barely can hit any of the buttons with your mouse. crazy difficult to learn, but allso highly rewarding, best game ive ever played for sure
I’m naturally a homebody so it’s rather easy for me to drop a full shift worth of hours into a game like this. I don’t really do much else on my off time. But that’s me. I can understand why some people wouldn’t touch this game with a 10 foot pole
eh, if you have fun the time you're playing it's worth every second. What else you gonna do, play a different videogame? If you have free/laze time, might as well hit up some Eve.
@@johanderuiter9842 If you don't remember your fights then you aren't playing a game to it's fullest. I remember every big event in gaming that has occurred to me. Maybe some people need to do memory exercises...
I honestly love hearing about EVE and find it's universe fascinating, both it's canonical lore an player created stories Actually playing it though requires a very certain mindset that I just don't have.
It is most certainly an aquired taste, that I can confirm. For Most folks, it requires that you find a good bunch of folks to form/join a corp with and faff about together. It's not so bad then.
It is both alluring and intimidating. I am constantly caught between wanting to join this collective of sadistic, psychopathic accountants, and wanting to run away in the opposite direction while shrieking in sheer terror.
This game really intrigued and interested me. I mostly played regular RPGs being my favourite genre, but due to lack of proper resources growing up I missed out on MMORPGs that always fascinated me. Playing games like this growing up would have been such a fun and learning experience..
I have been playing this since the beta on and off...I still think it is probably the best game ever made on any platform. There isn't anything else like it.
Which is most likely the secret of its longevity. I can’t help but wonder how a fantasy setting MMORPG could be created with the same elements that make EVE what it is. Well, on the most basic level that would just be ‘everything is procedurally generated, PvP isn’t optional, and all Drops are Vendor Trash and/or Crafting Materials’, but the catch is figuring out how to _implement_ those ideas in a manner that people enjoy enough to throw money at you every month for it.
lolnope. dude. i'm just a lowly subcontractor but I already have about 50% of the technical design in my head that would be required for actual Oasis. give it 5 more years and someone will release an actual VR Oasis ;)
Ive been searching for this game since the first time i touched a computer… i have finally found it by pure chance… most certainly the beginning of a new era for me
@@-neuro have not touched it yet. Gotta make the time. for now i just admire the game until i allocate a consistent timeframe to play it. and fuck you too
Here's a little fun fact.. there are 5201 solar systems in EvE online 1090 highsec.. 817 lowsec... And 3294 nullsec which is 60% of solar systems in EvE .. only 16% of players live in nullsec and its divided up by just a little over 150 alliances.. 👍
I started EVE 6 months after launch in 2003 ... Been here ever since and I still don't understand half of it lol. It's unique. Have made some good friends through it ... I'll be here another 17 years hopefully :-)
Please do not forget that according to lore, for example an Abbadon Amarr battleship has in addition to the capsuleer about 3000 souls on board which perish when the ship gets destroyed..
Best part of EvE is the community and by so much content generated by players in forms of tools, strategies, doctrines for ships and straight up guides, you can achieve many amazing objectives. The only downside is that the giant universe and sandbox posibilities makes it accessible only to those that understand the way your character progresses, the value of planning ahead and sticking to the plan.
As a “Care Bear” I resent being called a Care Bear just because I prefer mining, feeding the economy, provide resources for ships for fighter jocks and essentially keep the universe alive! 😂😂😂
@@antimatter7337 that's not how you feed economy. get a university "Economy 101" course to understand why what you said is the precise opposite of how you feed the economy and keep it running.
...most unusual, as well as most accurate and well-explained description of what EVE is about, at its core. (most unusual for me in the meaning that most videos of this kind i've seen about eve were either at loss to explain, or focused on the mechanical features and didn't notice the actual core dynamics, didn't see forest for the trees (and shrubbery)... and this one is the first that ignores all of that crap and just describes the forest itself so well)
I'm interested in starting eve online today so i looked up a video and found this. This video helped me a lot to understand how the game is since all i have seen are ads about the game. Hope to see you in game sometime 😊😊
I cant help but think ,i've been a part of this ,some way some how. Being i've had vivid dreams ,visions and so on of being a highly skilled fighter pilot leading over many others ,with highly sought after skills. My name is ,or was Indigo Eagle. I had put in so much battle time and won and concurred so much I was able to retire. Just recently ,some have been trying to coax me out of my retirement due to my high level of expertise. Very -AMAZING? That I stumbled upon this ,what seems to be the mere origins of my very real visions and dreams for quit a while now.
Having played for nearly a year, I'd say that summarizes it well. Nice job :) I will say to those who haven't played that a culture war is an extraordinarily gross understatement. The mind games are as intricate as real world politics and I love it. I am curious though, where's the audio of the screaming fc?
3 words describes EVE. Spreadsheets in space. Like literally. I played for 14 years and my PC documents is filled with spreadsheets I made for the game. Beautiful game. Market system was amazing. I never liked the non FPS style of flying though. There was no real exploration in the game. Sure there were lots of places you could go to, but you couldn't really interact with any of it other than asteroid belts. If you want exploration, play Elite Dangerous. Best space exploration game I've ever played(still play it). I did everything in EVE. Built ships, played the market, was part of several of the best pvp alliances and territorial alliances in the history of EVE(MC/BoB/NC./Pandemic, etc.), explored worm holes for a couple years. Ran an entire station infrastructure network for an alliance. I still have a logged off mothership that's been floating in Delve for about 3 years now. Some of the best gaming years of my life. The only thing I never accomplished was owning a titan. I was there the day the game went live...
Thanks for making this video, was super helpful understanding some of the background. I just started playing and so far it's a huge learning curve for me, but fun. I figure I'll just take my time doing random stuff until I understand what I prefer doing and what kind of corporation I should join.
alt = free stuff like alt miners u have one ship decked with mining stuff and one ship with high ore hold cap u jettison the ore and get it with the other ship when that ship is full u warp to somewhere and store the ore the storage ship usually has modules that increase warp if u do decide to use this make sure to watch both so u don't get killed
@@JonnDuune Atleast part of it is military grade hardware. They needed military clearance just to go into a bunker in Texas to look at it. It was made for the US Army.
That is way way way way wrong. It is the largest computer used for entertainment purposes on earth. Supercomputers used for things like nuclear physics and weather simulations are orders of magnitude more powerful.
I don't understand how my PC can't handle Minecraft at a smooth fps but it can handle me traveling through space, jumping solar system by solar system, taking in the info of planets and much more.
in 10 years i'm going to be like you because the main reason i stop playing a game is when i realize "okay, i understand your mechanics and how they interact", which makes me bored of the game.
@@jisuberries oh well... that also happens. usually to people who expect having a fun singleplayer experience in the only game in the world which ACTUALLY IS MASSIVELY-MULTIPLAYER. (as in: the experience is designed such that it requires you to interact with other people, as opposed to just giving you the option) the game is not about the game. the game in itself is actually a boring slog. the game is about the people you meet and talk to in the game, and about the stuff you do with them. it's a chatroom with a game on top of it as a bonus.
Not a gamer, randomly discovered eve online while searching for possible character names and wanted to know more...thanks for the informative video. One of the reasons I never got into video games as a kid was the fact that you had to follow a predefined path and levels and couldn't explore the game world. Eve online sounds like a game you could get lost in, if you even survive in the first place... I'm intrigued but also kind of terrified 😮
its an isnane experience as a newbie!!! If you ever interested in starting out you can use buddy link. www.eveonline.com/signup?invc=266251a3-597b-40b1-8a5c-a3707f3074f6
@@DarkVeghetta I think I had a look at it but never signed up. My internet is so slow I don't think I'd get anywhere with it. But your comment brought the game back to mind, I might actually set up an account now.. do you play EvE?
@@fruitytarian I first started ~11.5 years ago, then stopped for ~7 years, back at it for 2.5 years, last year I didn't play, and just a few weeks ago I bought a half-year subscription. It's been great to get back into the swing of things. I've been doing a lot of Project Discovery lately, some light trading and ratting, and plan on going back to exploration when I can get my Amarr character back to his proper HQ, some 20 jumps to the celestial south. Heck, I've never lived in low-sec or null, never looted a wormhole, didn't really pvp... there's a LOT I still haven't touched upon in EvE, even with ~3.5 years of actually playing the game. If you have any questions, I'd be happy to answer them to the best of my ability.
@@DarkVeghetta I have so many questions haha. The more I look into the game, the more questions I have... are high/ low/ null sec like levels that you work up to after a certain number of points or could I (theoretically) sign up tomorrow and jump straight to null-sec?
i was the same. the thing is - eve gave me lessons which real life was probably also giving me but on a different timescale (and lower level of engagement), so for me, eve was (and still is) a(lso) a self-reflection tool that helps me improve my actual real life. but many players get weirded out when I explain it, so maybe it doesn't apply to you.
A few years back I did played the game for a while. I was happily being a 'carebear' when suddenly I was attack. At that time I thought that a NPC ship attacked me. Now I know I was wrong.
Yes.. my reaction exactly. People that wish to just be left alone and have a good time are shamed in Eve. Pretty much in a nutshell why I left. The entire set of sociopathic misfits that play the game think like this: 'my way or the highway'. Yes.. I know there are nice people playing eve.. but they are SUCH a minority. And.. just so everyone understands.. I play games to get away from bad human behavior. If I want to experience bad human behavior, I get up in the morning and go to work.
@@rbarnes4076 bruh, as someone who likes station trading, mining, industry, etc... I think we played a different game... Or this could be a case of "If everywhere you go it stinks, maybe it's you who needs a shower." I dont even see it as an insult to be honest, and I think everyone knows that without the "carebears" eve would stop
that can be replaced with: mining and crafting - factorio, satisfactory, (any other similar game) station trading - forex, crypto currencies. look ma, no MMO, no need to deal with internet drama over pixels in computer game.
@@rbarnes4076 Once you realize that even them need ships to build to do their peeveepee , you realize they cannot play without those carebears.. Besides there are plenty of people in Eve that don't work don't have a social life that do all... I love to mine...i was also alliance diplomat...also capital ship pilot in Goonswarm, and i flew with Garmon and did pvp. So what am i? A retired, dangerous carebear that can bite back in more ways then one, a politician sometimes chilling in wormhole space loaded with ISK.
They say Eve is freedom this reminds me of the game called Privateer ships are the same design, if the human race doesn't Nuke each other I see this being a future for the Human race.
Nice video and effort. I do Invite you to rethink that "Sandbox" Definition, because if Sandbox means that there is no end to the game then ALL MMO's are Sandbox, even World of Warcraft, and that is simply not the case. The "Goes on forever" or "Perpetual Game" or "Open Ended Game" is a Characteristic of the MMO genre as a whole. EVE like all other MMO games is Open Ended. Sandbox on the other hand basically means that the Gameplay is Emergent and Free as opposed to pre-defined or "on rails" and imposed. Now, EVE distributes Resources (in an arbitrary manner) to specific Areas in order to impose a specific Gameplay, which also impacts Progression. If you are a Solo player lets say part of one of the NPC corporations you can only go so far, your progression will be hampered by the Resource Distribution and you will not be able to go forward unless you undertake some specific steps. And that is not Free or Sandboxy, it is rather pre-defined and imposed, there is no other choice than to stop progressing or stop playing. Then it also imposes time constraints on character progression through the Times skill system. No matter what the player does in terms of actions the skills take the pre-defined time to raise (with some variation based on implants etc) still it is not Free nor Sanboxy either. And therefore, I am not sure that EVE actually qualifies as a 100% Sandbox game really.
change your approach. it's not a game, not a thing you can learn and understand as a whole and therefore win. it's world you go into to chill and have a good time and try stupid stuff in. but mainly it's a world to be in, enjoying the vibe and events and people. i had this same experience as you the first time i tried, and on top of that, boredom came very quickly. that was 4 years ago, then I had a 1year gap, tried again, by complete accident found a great corp, and suddenly it all started making sense :) once again: it's a world. it's not tailored for you to be "the chosen one". it's tailored for you to be "one, who will maybe decide to become the regional chosen one and in a few years of consistent play, he'll maybe even achieve it"
you don't log into eve to "finish this quest", you log into eve to be in that world and with those people. in the meantime you occasionally finish some quest or make some money, so that you can fit the ship to be in the eve world and with those people better. today, i logged in for an hour, didn't even undock from a station because i was too lazy to babysit my miner, and too lazy to actually do something that requires attention, i just sat there, watching what my buddies are chatting about, occasionally chiming in, lazily thinking about my plans to become a wormhole industry magnate XD it's not about what the game gives you, because basically it gives you nothing. it's about what the game enables you to do, because basically it enables you to do anything that makes sense relative to its setting. if you're looking for a game that will entertain you, look elsewhere. if you're looking for a game that will provide you with a huge directionless space in which you can entertain yourself in countless ways, welcome to Eve.
@@MidnightSt thanks for the detailed answer. I never looked to Eve as a game that one could finish or where i would be the chosen one. As you said, that wouldnt be the point, wich i understand cause i had before hand the expectation that it is rather player driven (the game). I probably just need some time where i can invest more time into it: Mainly my problem was the unability to get a grip on the mechanics such as proper flying and shooting. But anyway, thanks^^
Funny how the best and most relaxing time in EVE for me was being in the NPC corp you default into when leaving a corp and just chugging along in there. No wars, no BS, no forced PVP. Joining a corp can be fine if you find people who you get along with and have the same goals. Anything above that like an alliance is pretty much paying monthly for a game for people to tell you want to do all the time. Other than being able to fly a big ship anything out of high sec is pretty boring and supringly uneventful. To those who don't know going into low or null security space is usually system after system of empty space.
Exactly! Most large Corps in Eve are absolute cancer to the new player. Stay in an NPC Corp until you find out what you like to do and play and do what you want to do when you want to do it. You will have a lot more fun learning the game than being under the thumb of a large Corp.
I’ve always been interested by multiplayer sandbox games and the endless possibilities that our universe provides, so this is probably the closest game to a perfect game in my opinion. However, looking through the videos related to Eve, I’m beginning to wonder if I really have the time and effort to develop and achieve my goals in this game. I’ve been a FPS player for quite a while and maybe I’m not ready for this kind of intensity yet. I think the future me will probably pick up this game and I hope he doesn’t regret it, because some dreams are meant to be dreams.
You forgot the most valuable commodity in EVE is trust !! This why small corps can thrive in the right spots in New Eden. Then get war decked and extorted. And realize you have to give that moon base up because they are bigger or far more skilled than you It's still cool ! In that affair I got a free help me ticket but who knows if that would be honored. Either way I made enough to skill up characters buy ships even make money on plex. However it does take a while.
Ive played for the first time a few years ago. It was all fun until I learned about Plesk. Just dropping in a few bucks saves you hundreds of hours of time in game of trying to acquire ISK. So I did that then all my goals were null and void, no need to mine, explore, rat or gank. You have everything you want. So then the game is instantly boring to me. Dear Eve, make a new server and remove Plesk and have subscriptions just like WoW! Cheating makes the game boring.
@@Xalerdane I tried that, you just feel behind everyone who is dumping money into plex and buying skills and ships. It just turns the game into a pay to play, takes the fun out of it for me.
Im sorry to say chap but sadly what doesnt have a "toxic community" these days?? The reeeeeeee vocal minority is out in force everywhere, and Karens have got hold of a steering wheel!!! :P One of the best games out there in terms of player requirement. Its a bit like dark souls. you either love it or hate it. Dont knock it til you tried it and 50p says you'll fall in love with it.
And now, when you remember it at odd moments.....You realize she is now trashing some other poor bastards life....AND YOU GRIN....Yes you do...ADMIT IT!!!!
Some random dude on youtube: *calls miners carebears* Miners: *goes on a strike and economy halts* Some random dude on youtube and EVE Online community in their expensive toys with no ammunition: *surprised pikachu face*
Thank you for a great video. To the point and Not Long Winded. I just started 3 days ago, wish I had started 4 months ago like I wanted. I’m Blown away by the Magnitude of this game, I knew it was big but OMG. It’s crazy. So Any Advice or Help you Have Would Be Great. Ty again
Thank you for your insights, liked your video a lot. I had difficulties to understand the reason, why it's such a successful game. Especially when I read news that ***** amount of time is eradicated in a (for me) silly personal war. But I am grasping now thanks your video. One instance is indeed gigantic. But as a dedicated ED player I think you have nothing so cool like our fuel rats / hull seals. Even if I never needed their support so far. Feel often like a small boy looking up to them.
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Eve Online - Keeping sociopaths off the streets since 2003.
HaHa, my original in game born on date (early 2005 now, original account unrecoverable) I never found a corp that fit me, so back to the streets with me....
Funny cos its so true and must be acknowledged we have more than a few in eve. Having a thick skin and survival instinct of 100 people put together is a must in this game to survive and last the long run.
NICE
Some of them anyway
I heard this about Eve a while back:
"Eve is like being a small child walking through a park at night filled with child molesters."
After having played it for a while, I find this description highly accurate.
The only reason you have "friends" in EVE is because you don't have anything of value worth killing you over yet. There are people who will be your best buddy for months, then one day they'll just up and kill you, take everything, insult you, and laugh as they warp away leaving your cold corpse floating in a cloud of twisted metal and debris. As a bonus, some will even post videos about it.
EVE has often been called "spreadsheets in space". That'd only be true if spreadsheets could murder you in cold blood.
Now with official gambling, just for lols.
@@silvercat18 this is true in some corps but groups like Karmafleet, Pandemic Horde, and Brave Newbies are really good at welcoming people and we (in Karmafleet) genuinely engage as friends to those we recruit. Ive played since '03 and the community ive worked with as a trainer is why I play.
R King at this point, that description pretty much describes only new players to EVE
Xyrus That is actually fucking awesome... call me a sadomasochist, but I love the thrill of the risk, and you know what. If you can plot, strategies and deceit for 3 months, at that point you’ve deserved it!
Aim of the game: To become the 1% by any means necessary.
No sir, the goal of the game is to stop playing.
no, kill the top 1%
That just sounds like real life with extra steps
I’m top 13%
Shii let's put that energy in real life
Plot twist: it's all real and we are controlling ships in space.
enders game ftw
If its true im sorry for áll those ships tho xd
All those crews I killed!!!
Good most humans are clones.
Poor fighter pilots....
Eve: The game played by sociopathic accountants.
hey, I'm an accountant and not a sociopath....I think you're mixing up accountants with psycho lawyers...Re: Mittens
@@waynehieatt5962 I don't think he is implying all accountants are sociopaths.
Don't forget sadistic.
Hey! I'm no sociopath nor an accountant... Psychopathic serial killer more likely... ;) (in EVE, before you send SWAT on me lulz)
hahahaha
Heres my quote.
"EVE Online is a game where you feel like trying to control a space ship in real life for the first time not knowing a shit about each button."
You realy need driving licence for flying a ship here! :)
You misspelled Star Citizen or Elite. I played Eve and "controlling" your ship war just "orbit", "keep at range", "approach", "warp to" so much "controlling" , and double click in space
@@claushellsing you can also fly your ship using wasd or arrowkeys now
What does this button do?
*accidentally self destructs*
Eve Online is one of the few games that has a canonical explanation to respawning that also makes sense
Another few I can think of is Hades, and Destiny 1 & 2 (sometimes unexplainable but mostly lore based).
@@quill7889 dark souls
@@BigBoy-ok3eg tru
Sort of, yes. Though I will always argue, is a clone really you, just because it has your memories? Or is it just a full grown test tube baby with an injected persona? I don't think it is true resurrection. That is where the soul comes in.
This is more like afflicting the living with a clone of you after you're dead and gone.
Elden ring now too
I played Eve for 7 years. Been part of very memorable things, like the first Great War, that lasted over a year. In the end, I stopped when I realised that pvp didn't pump me up with adrenaline anymore, and losing a ship only made me think about the logistics of buying and moving another.
Only the strong survive
Chuck it up to natural selection?
@@badred3ZZ AMAZING game conceptually, but not worth the hours of your life that it requires.
as a relatively new player you learn quickly that tormenting you is how the older players have fun.the game design and mechanics compel you into low security space where the older player wait.i was killed 4 times today.since my skill points make it a mathematical impossibility to win an engagement i no longer equipment my ships with guns.just insure your ships to the max and make money everytime youre killed.in the last 2 weeks ive been killed 23 times.give a crap factor is zero
@@andrewpinkham9904 You don't give enough details to identify your problem, but you're obviously doing something very wrong. It could be your autopilot not being set to avoid low-sec systems, or you choosing a pve agent near low-sec space, or you deciding to play in a high-sec area surrounded by low-sec... The game does NOT force you to play in low-sec areas. It only offer slightly greater rewards for doing so.
@@shadowsword8 my problem is i need the isogen found in lowsec so i have to provide an easy target for older players.To do any tier 2 reactions i have to go to lowsec.the programmers did this intentionally so that im content/easy kill for waiting older players.i just put another 80 ventures into the production que.ill drop another 100 miner ones tonight.kill me i couldnt careless.ill make 130k from insurance and you might get one or 2 miner ones.youll get nothing from the cruisers but some gob1s.ill get 5 million plus.i didnt say force i said compel
One of the best accurate descriptions, and I quote:
"Eve Online - Fitting more shit into your HUD since ’03. "
Eve online - the reason why extra-wide monitors were invented and developed.
I've been playing on and off for 14 years and I still don't know what the hell I'm doing lol
Being playing LoL for 5 years, same thing, some games are just for us, degenerates
This is the most true comment here. I'm 15 years in.
@@raulminguez7517 Yeah except LOL is for retards.
@@KandiKlover if you wanted to offense him im gonna declare one thing. We know
Man i started this month am I gonna end up like u guys
Ugh..played for almost six years. Realized I had to stop when I found myself triple boxing to blitz through L4s. For a game, Eve has the potential to be horribly stressful, and a real obsession. I both miss it, and don't miss it.
Triple boxing? Hah I sometimes 6-boxed in incursion fleets to max out payout when numbers were low.
A friend of mine lost two semesters
Yep, after quad-boxing my Rorqual mining/indy fleet it just became too much like a second job. However, the game is so far ahead of it's time and honestly, I rather enjoyed the folks who played. I still love EVE with all my gaming soul. I also hate it. Greatest game I ever quit playing.
Hey, I triple box L4 missions on occasion. Make more money incursioning like P SD said, but L4 missions on my own are a fun way to relax when not doing that. ;)
@BigHeadAstro Exactly. Maintaining Skyrim, mods, patches, updates, bugs, and glitches, I finally
after all these years gave it up.
The fact that this huge game is coming to mobile with the same universe size and same server system is really amazing
not really. it's technically trivial to even connect the mobile client to the very same main eve servers, the only reason that's not been done is that it wouldn't be fair to PC players due to all the UI shortcuts the mobile version had to take to fit on the screen.
in fact, it would be easier to connect the mobile client to the same servers that PC client uses, it's a magnitude more difficult to setup separate servers for mobile which are "the same universe, same size, and same server system"
I was genuinely depressed for a while when my Corp fell apart and disbanded. Years later when I sold everything and left. I had a nyx for several years and never lost it. Sold it off and they got it blown up a week later.
i left the game for half a year after my (owned by me) corp left basically all it's members and it threw me into deppression.
got back recently, and the people who were in my corp and left just welcomed me so warmly, no hard feelings, they just hated my "trying to impose a system" approach.
now i'm back in the game, trying to find the right balance between mine "we need a system" and theirs "whatever the fuck, lol" approaches.
Can i hab your stuff?
In 2010 I lost my Caldari Raven Navy Issue in low sec and rage quit for 11 years. Now I'm playing it again because it's such a beautiful and complicated game.
@@Tkieron yesterday i shoot down a miner. He said gf he just looking for some kernite (isogen moved to low sec only recently) l.
I told him sorry, he replied it is ok, pvp is part of the game.
Suprised how well he received the loss, and we talked a little, told him how I found him, and tld him tips, how to avoid truble.
Back then I was too very devastated over losing a ship, but these people showed me much better mental.
It kinda changed me in general.
I'm a 45 yo grown up man, father of 3 beautiful kids with a leading job in the IT industry.
i considered myself has a reasonable person from the top middle class average (considering my salary).
EVE is the only game that make me cry... on 1 occasion, at my beginning (after 1 year of play).
I didn't cry on others instances after but i remember my heart race like crazy as if i had a car accident.
Don't judge me lol
I jumped my super into one fight and and had a panic attack. Its a tough game.
If anyone judges you, that just means they haven't played Eve lmao
45 yo grown man with a family and job in IT. Why the hell do you waste you limited time on this planet by sitting by the computer in your free time? Why don't you move your body? How do you think it will look and feel after another 10 years without sport?
@@mareksykora5197 oh hey cool, you're the authority on how others should live lol
@@mareksykora5197
A perfect example of a hasty judgment.
But that made me smile because unfortunately for you (and luckily for me lol) i am the exact opposite of your portrait full of stereotype.
It is true that I am not sporty. Neither salon nor team or game.
I have been a regular of trainning for over 25 years.
I train in the gym 4 days a week in cardio and muscle mode.
I would not describe my body or my physical abilities, but they are very close to the one we can imagine of a man who has taken his physical and psychological health seriously for years.
Psychological because for more than 3 years now I meditate meticulously every day for 30 minutes .... or almost (in holidays with my children it is sometimes difficult to find even a small 30 minutes of freedom)
Peace :)
This is an excellent overview explanation! I just hit my 10 year anniversary in Eve and I'm still learning. If you like science fiction and MMOs, you will never find a better game.
5 minutes? Pffft, I can do one word!
Capitalism.
Communism is better
@Kolos Barlik you understand a joke?
@Kolos Barlik the problem of war thunder is the repair costs
I laughed when you played the screams in the background.
those screams preceded a two hour long rant over losing his capital and blaming the fleet commander and his corp mates
@@waynehieatt5962 nah, the original video is an AT Fleet Commander hyped out of his fucking mind.
its my friend when he kills me cuz i was almost dead cuz of that 1 mission
Oh oh oh my god oh dear
So did everyone else who has logged more than 10 hours.
This game looks incredibly overwhelming wtf
And this video barely shows the menus you have to click through for everything lol
@@CoinRingsUSA yeah EVEs retention rate is fucked but man is it a great community that remains tho
@@CoinRingsUSA Have you tried sekiro?
@@CoinRingsUSA then how is the game still making money if 98% of players quit within a month?
@@-neuro because that 2% is _extremely_ dedicated.
Pretty much sums up eve! Good video, well narrated.
Was fun to play, but became like a second full time job.
thanks for that comment i was about to try the game out i'm never going to play it
Mike why not? i started playing yesterday and its a very fun game! go give it a try ;) its hard but, there are always people willing to help you :)
Honestly it’s not really like a second job to me. It’s just like... a game that I love that I play for maybe two hours a day on weekends
I wanted to play other games besides Eve, so I stopped playing Eve.
@@indx2529 well im afraid that i will die cuz of some pirates and lose everything in that ship because fr ill be angry and pissed off for days
Either you play EVE or you live, not both!
Very true!
I do both :D
@@RanaRandom No, you don't
Well if you stay in npc corp ,you can do it ;p
Hi from C.A.S. player ;)
I played Eve for eight years straight had to give it up for the family..
no other games have been even close to give me the adrenaline rush ive felt in this game. you know you have a special game, when you find your self in a situation where your hearth going like crazy, and you shaking so badly you barely can hit any of the buttons with your mouse. crazy difficult to learn, but allso highly rewarding, best game ive ever played for sure
pov: you got curious after one year of advertisement
faaaaaacts
@Eisa Suleman Khatri same
If I decided to play, I’d just want to drive my starship endlessly. Just wanna explore and look around.
Mehn never related to fact like this before🤣🤣
I'm now 46 years old.. ive been playing this stupid game since I was 31.. this game has ruined all other games for me.. man I love it 8)
Where else can you point and click through menus for years without needing flight controls? Haha
I spend thousands of hours in eve from the age of 14 to 21. AMAZING game conceptually, but not worth the hours of your life that it requires.
I’m naturally a homebody so it’s rather easy for me to drop a full shift worth of hours into a game like this. I don’t really do much else on my off time. But that’s me. I can understand why some people wouldn’t touch this game with a 10 foot pole
eh, if you have fun the time you're playing it's worth every second. What else you gonna do, play a different videogame? If you have free/laze time, might as well hit up some Eve.
You get what you put in. I don't regret the time I've spent In eve online.
@@johanderuiter9842 If you don't remember your fights then you aren't playing a game to it's fullest. I remember every big event in gaming that has occurred to me. Maybe some people need to do memory exercises...
@@johanderuiter9842 Sounds like somebody is in their 40's and projecting lmao
really good explanation honestly, all most makes me want to jump back in.
Did you end up back in the game ?? Just curious as this comment is 5 years old now 😢
I honestly love hearing about EVE and find it's universe fascinating, both it's canonical lore an player created stories
Actually playing it though requires a very certain mindset that I just don't have.
It is most certainly an aquired taste, that I can confirm. For Most folks, it requires that you find a good bunch of folks to form/join a corp with and faff about together. It's not so bad then.
It is both alluring and intimidating.
I am constantly caught between wanting to join this collective of sadistic, psychopathic accountants, and wanting to run away in the opposite direction while shrieking in sheer terror.
"Do you have a clear vision?
He does!"
This game really intrigued and interested me. I mostly played regular RPGs being my favourite genre, but due to lack of proper resources growing up I missed out on MMORPGs that always fascinated me. Playing games like this growing up would have been such a fun and learning experience..
Darn you Resurrected Starships. You got me to load up my Alpha Clone. Grumble grumble, this is fun, darn it, Eve has its hooks in me again. LOL
Now an Omega Clone
You know something is wrong when theres so many 30 minute videos explaining a game
If interested in a small gang PvP corp check out Interstellar Booty Hunters [IBTY] or come chat in-game at the Booty Tiki Bar
What are the requirements.
@@bileborgg preferably willing to go omega, ability to learn, and fly with us once or twice -that's the activity test
Resurrected Starships do you guys have a discord
@Zarin M Soooo,,,,,,, it is crack cocaine?
So I'm super new to this game and I've only played about 6-9 times. I don't know anything but I'd be happy to learn. Any suggestions?
I have been playing this since the beta on and off...I still think it is probably the best game ever made on any platform. There isn't anything else like it.
Which is most likely the secret of its longevity.
I can’t help but wonder how a fantasy setting MMORPG could be created with the same elements that make EVE what it is.
Well, on the most basic level that would just be ‘everything is procedurally generated, PvP isn’t optional, and all Drops are Vendor Trash and/or Crafting Materials’, but the catch is figuring out how to _implement_ those ideas in a manner that people enjoy enough to throw money at you every month for it.
This is the closest we'll ever get to ready player one's The Oasis
lolnope.
dude.
i'm just a lowly subcontractor but I already have about 50% of the technical design in my head that would be required for actual Oasis.
give it 5 more years and someone will release an actual VR Oasis ;)
@@MidnightSt / Oasis is the future of VR Gaming
Guys we already have some kind of multiwsy threadmill also im into game dev and it's gonna be even faster than 5 years
Didn't think that was possible! Well done! 51, 13 years and every engagement is as exciting as the first! EVE Forever
I'm on day two and loving it so far. Trying to take it slow and not get overwhelmed.
Ive been searching for this game since the first time i touched a computer… i have finally found it by pure chance… most certainly the beginning of a new era for me
still playing? or part of the 98% that quit within 1 month?
@@-neuro have not touched it yet. Gotta make the time. for now i just admire the game until i allocate a consistent timeframe to play it. and fuck you too
Here's a little fun fact.. there are 5201 solar systems in EvE online 1090 highsec.. 817 lowsec... And 3294 nullsec which is 60% of solar systems in EvE .. only 16% of players live in nullsec and its divided up by just a little over 150 alliances.. 👍
There are 7805 systems in EVE
I got an Eve online ad on an Eve Online youtube video
I started EVE 6 months after launch in 2003 ... Been here ever since and I still don't understand half of it lol. It's unique. Have made some good friends through it ... I'll be here another 17 years hopefully :-)
u still playing?
@@ilovebubbletea890 I am yes 👍:-)
Sir what is ur eve id name
@@mrnexus8seven949 can I add u
One of the best descriptions made of a video game, is so nice, keep doing work like this
This is exactly what I dream of when it comes to the ultimate game. Too bad that I just know I don't have the time or patience for it.
Please do not forget that according to lore, for example an Abbadon Amarr battleship has in addition to the capsuleer about 3000 souls on board which perish when the ship gets destroyed..
EVE: The griefer's paradise
People enjoy creating alpha accounts just to gank new players.
@@Ascelot Nah mate. You create Alpha accounts to gank everyone. Not just new players.
@@Drogenopa1 My bad lol
Best part of EvE is the community and by so much content generated by players in forms of tools, strategies, doctrines for ships and straight up guides, you can achieve many amazing objectives.
The only downside is that the giant universe and sandbox posibilities makes it accessible only to those that understand the way your character progresses, the value of planning ahead and sticking to the plan.
As a “Care Bear” I resent being called a Care Bear just because I prefer mining, feeding the economy, provide resources for ships for fighter jocks and essentially keep the universe alive! 😂😂😂
so u give stuff to ppl for free?
Care Bear's are necessary...Who else are we gonna shoot!!
Each other.
Riley millar of course he doesn’t. He sells it to them.
@@antimatter7337 that's not how you feed economy.
get a university "Economy 101" course to understand why what you said is the precise opposite of how you feed the economy and keep it running.
I’ve been wanting to try this game out for awhile. Thanks for this little tutorial. It was very helpful
How are you finding it out of curiosity ?
...most unusual, as well as most accurate and well-explained description of what EVE is about, at its core.
(most unusual for me in the meaning that most videos of this kind i've seen about eve were either at loss to explain, or focused on the mechanical features and didn't notice the actual core dynamics, didn't see forest for the trees (and shrubbery)... and this one is the first that ignores all of that crap and just describes the forest itself so well)
I'm interested in starting eve online today so i looked up a video and found this. This video helped me a lot to understand how the game is since all i have seen are ads about the game. Hope to see you in game sometime 😊😊
“Mine astroids and watch youtube”, read my mind
fuck that.
3 monitors, doublebox mining asteroids and watch youtube XD
I cant help but think ,i've been a part of this ,some way some how. Being i've had vivid dreams ,visions and so on of being a highly skilled fighter pilot leading over many others ,with highly sought after skills. My name is ,or was Indigo Eagle. I had put in so much battle time and won and concurred so much I was able to retire. Just recently ,some have been trying to coax me out of my retirement due to my high level of expertise. Very -AMAZING? That I stumbled upon this ,what seems to be the mere origins of my very real visions and dreams for quit a while now.
Having played for nearly a year, I'd say that summarizes it well. Nice job :)
I will say to those who haven't played that a culture war is an extraordinarily gross understatement. The mind games are as intricate as real world politics and I love it.
I am curious though, where's the audio of the screaming fc?
I just got an eve ad on this video. (10/10 youtube marketing)
3 words describes EVE. Spreadsheets in space. Like literally. I played for 14 years and my PC documents is filled with spreadsheets I made for the game. Beautiful game. Market system was amazing. I never liked the non FPS style of flying though. There was no real exploration in the game. Sure there were lots of places you could go to, but you couldn't really interact with any of it other than asteroid belts. If you want exploration, play Elite Dangerous. Best space exploration game I've ever played(still play it). I did everything in EVE. Built ships, played the market, was part of several of the best pvp alliances and territorial alliances in the history of EVE(MC/BoB/NC./Pandemic, etc.), explored worm holes for a couple years. Ran an entire station infrastructure network for an alliance. I still have a logged off mothership that's been floating in Delve for about 3 years now. Some of the best gaming years of my life. The only thing I never accomplished was owning a titan. I was there the day the game went live...
Holy shit man
But yeah what I was interested in was exploration, the fact that that isn't there here is what makes me not pick it up
Thanks for making this video, was super helpful understanding some of the background. I just started playing and so far it's a huge learning curve for me, but fun. I figure I'll just take my time doing random stuff until I understand what I prefer doing and what kind of corporation I should join.
You left out half of those thousand players are just alts
alt = free stuff
like alt miners
u have one ship decked with mining stuff
and one ship with high ore hold cap
u jettison the ore and get it with the other ship
when that ship is full u warp to somewhere and store the ore
the storage ship usually has modules that increase warp
if u do decide to use this make sure to watch both so u don't get killed
As a Minmatar, I completely agree with you. Good presentation of Eve Online.
Fun fact the CCP supercomputer is one of the most powerful on earth rivaling the computational power and capacity of government built super computers.
I am not casting doubt on your comment but by any chance do you have a citation for that?
@@f1b0nacc1sequence7 sadly its not even close.
@@JonnDuune Atleast part of it is military grade hardware. They needed military clearance just to go into a bunker in Texas to look at it. It was made for the US Army.
@@allnamesaretakenful Actually, it's a server farm in London England......
That is way way way way wrong. It is the largest computer used for entertainment purposes on earth. Supercomputers used for things like nuclear physics and weather simulations are orders of magnitude more powerful.
I don't understand how my PC can't handle Minecraft at a smooth fps but it can handle me traveling through space, jumping solar system by solar system, taking in the info of planets and much more.
I've been playing for 14 years and I still don't understand it all. However, 14 years should say a lot.
in 10 years i'm going to be like you because the main reason i stop playing a game is when i realize "okay, i understand your mechanics and how they interact", which makes me bored of the game.
EVE look awesome, I never played. But the more videos I watch of the game, I more see its a HUGE learning curve.
Pvp in this game gets my adrenaline up like no other.
Just started watching your content because I wanted to give this game ago, now that I have I will be giving it a bash as soon as it's downloaded
Just started playing. I just keep clicking anything that comes up in the screen. 😂
thats a good way to get scammed or get your stuff blown up.
@@pivkemrzli2297 already deleted it 😂
that's a good way to learn... at a price...
@@jisuberries oh well... that also happens. usually to people who expect having a fun singleplayer experience in the only game in the world which ACTUALLY IS MASSIVELY-MULTIPLAYER. (as in: the experience is designed such that it requires you to interact with other people, as opposed to just giving you the option)
the game is not about the game. the game in itself is actually a boring slog.
the game is about the people you meet and talk to in the game, and about the stuff you do with them.
it's a chatroom with a game on top of it as a bonus.
Not a gamer, randomly discovered eve online while searching for possible character names and wanted to know more...thanks for the informative video. One of the reasons I never got into video games as a kid was the fact that you had to follow a predefined path and levels and couldn't explore the game world. Eve online sounds like a game you could get lost in, if you even survive in the first place... I'm intrigued but also kind of terrified 😮
its an isnane experience as a newbie!!! If you ever interested in starting out you can use buddy link.
www.eveonline.com/signup?invc=266251a3-597b-40b1-8a5c-a3707f3074f6
So, how did it go? EvE is probably the most expansive sandbox MMO ever built.
@@DarkVeghetta I think I had a look at it but never signed up. My internet is so slow I don't think I'd get anywhere with it. But your comment brought the game back to mind, I might actually set up an account now.. do you play EvE?
@@fruitytarian I first started ~11.5 years ago, then stopped for ~7 years, back at it for 2.5 years, last year I didn't play, and just a few weeks ago I bought a half-year subscription.
It's been great to get back into the swing of things. I've been doing a lot of Project Discovery lately, some light trading and ratting, and plan on going back to exploration when I can get my Amarr character back to his proper HQ, some 20 jumps to the celestial south.
Heck, I've never lived in low-sec or null, never looted a wormhole, didn't really pvp... there's a LOT I still haven't touched upon in EvE, even with ~3.5 years of actually playing the game.
If you have any questions, I'd be happy to answer them to the best of my ability.
@@DarkVeghetta I have so many questions haha. The more I look into the game, the more questions I have... are high/ low/ null sec like levels that you work up to after a certain number of points or could I (theoretically) sign up tomorrow and jump straight to null-sec?
4:04 Who would quess.. "Growing alliances: Toilet paper" Welcome to 2020 and Covid-19...
From shit thou cometh, and to shit though will return.
Toilet paper (thing as well as the corp) is just an attempt to cover up this fact.
I play UO. The description of this game reminds me in many ways of it. There must be a lot of former UO players playing Eve. I'd love to try it out :)
i can barely live my own life
now i have another one
curse you eve, for being so good
i was the same.
the thing is - eve gave me lessons which real life was probably also giving me but on a different timescale (and lower level of engagement), so for me, eve was (and still is) a(lso) a self-reflection tool that helps me improve my actual real life.
but many players get weirded out when I explain it, so maybe it doesn't apply to you.
@@MidnightSt For what is worth, yours was an interesting response,if you ever decide to make a post on it i'd gladly read
A few years back I did played the game for a while. I was happily being a 'carebear' when suddenly I was attack. At that time I thought that a NPC ship attacked me. Now I know I was wrong.
"Mining and Manufacturing. Things that carebears do."
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Yes.. my reaction exactly. People that wish to just be left alone and have a good time are shamed in Eve. Pretty much in a nutshell why I left. The entire set of sociopathic misfits that play the game think like this: 'my way or the highway'.
Yes.. I know there are nice people playing eve.. but they are SUCH a minority.
And.. just so everyone understands.. I play games to get away from bad human behavior. If I want to experience bad human behavior, I get up in the morning and go to work.
@@rbarnes4076 bruh, as someone who likes station trading, mining, industry, etc... I think we played a different game...
Or this could be a case of "If everywhere you go it stinks, maybe it's you who needs a shower."
I dont even see it as an insult to be honest, and I think everyone knows that without the "carebears" eve would stop
that can be replaced with:
mining and crafting - factorio, satisfactory, (any other similar game)
station trading - forex, crypto currencies.
look ma, no MMO, no need to deal with internet drama over pixels in computer game.
@@rbarnes4076 Once you realize that even them need ships to build to do their peeveepee , you realize they cannot play without those carebears.. Besides there are plenty of people in Eve that don't work don't have a social life that do all... I love to mine...i was also alliance diplomat...also capital ship pilot in Goonswarm, and i flew with Garmon and did pvp. So what am i? A retired, dangerous carebear that can bite back in more ways then one, a politician sometimes chilling in wormhole space loaded with ISK.
l mine and manufacture ships and ammo during the week so l can take it out to synd on the weekend to blow it all up
" A strange game. The only winning move is not to play " : “Joshua” or WOPR
Great explanation of the game. Makes me feel to start playing again :D
They say Eve is freedom this reminds me of the game called Privateer ships are the same design, if the human race doesn't Nuke each other I see this being a future for the Human race.
"Eve Online Explained in Five Minutes!" - 6 min video :p
Uhhh... Einstein's Time Dilation theory in action, or something??
intro
sounds about right.
one hour op: takes three hours (one and half in preparation, half hour in wind-down)
Wow that actually sounds amazing. I'll probably try it out.
never heard of this game, reminds me of battlestar galactica though :D might check it out!
You should
Might check it out. This aint mario kart.
Nice video and effort. I do Invite you to rethink that "Sandbox" Definition, because if Sandbox means that there is no end to the game then ALL MMO's are Sandbox, even World of Warcraft, and that is simply not the case. The "Goes on forever" or "Perpetual Game" or "Open Ended Game" is a Characteristic of the MMO genre as a whole. EVE like all other MMO games is Open Ended. Sandbox on the other hand basically means that the Gameplay is Emergent and Free as opposed to pre-defined or "on rails" and imposed. Now, EVE distributes Resources (in an arbitrary manner) to specific Areas in order to impose a specific Gameplay, which also impacts Progression. If you are a Solo player lets say part of one of the NPC corporations you can only go so far, your progression will be hampered by the Resource Distribution and you will not be able to go forward unless you undertake some specific steps. And that is not Free or Sandboxy, it is rather pre-defined and imposed, there is no other choice than to stop progressing or stop playing. Then it also imposes time constraints on character progression through the Times skill system. No matter what the player does in terms of actions the skills take the pre-defined time to raise (with some variation based on implants etc) still it is not Free nor Sanboxy either. And therefore, I am not sure that EVE actually qualifies as a 100% Sandbox game really.
I tried Eve once, i was so damn overwehlmed by even the tutorial that i didnt continue. Its fucking interesting gama but im not made for it
Just gotta go slow and find a resonable old vet to give you pointers and explain shit. :)
change your approach. it's not a game, not a thing you can learn and understand as a whole and therefore win.
it's world you go into to chill and have a good time and try stupid stuff in.
but mainly it's a world to be in, enjoying the vibe and events and people.
i had this same experience as you the first time i tried, and on top of that, boredom came very quickly.
that was 4 years ago, then I had a 1year gap, tried again, by complete accident found a great corp, and suddenly it all started making sense :)
once again: it's a world. it's not tailored for you to be "the chosen one". it's tailored for you to be "one, who will maybe decide to become the regional chosen one and in a few years of consistent play, he'll maybe even achieve it"
you don't log into eve to "finish this quest", you log into eve to be in that world and with those people.
in the meantime you occasionally finish some quest or make some money, so that you can fit the ship to be in the eve world and with those people better.
today, i logged in for an hour, didn't even undock from a station because i was too lazy to babysit my miner, and too lazy to actually do something that requires attention, i just sat there, watching what my buddies are chatting about, occasionally chiming in, lazily thinking about my plans to become a wormhole industry magnate XD
it's not about what the game gives you, because basically it gives you nothing.
it's about what the game enables you to do, because basically it enables you to do anything that makes sense relative to its setting.
if you're looking for a game that will entertain you, look elsewhere.
if you're looking for a game that will provide you with a huge directionless space in which you can entertain yourself in countless ways, welcome to Eve.
@@MidnightSt thanks for the detailed answer. I never looked to Eve as a game that one could finish or where i would be the chosen one. As you said, that wouldnt be the point, wich i understand cause i had before hand the expectation that it is rather player driven (the game). I probably just need some time where i can invest more time into it: Mainly my problem was the unability to get a grip on the mechanics such as proper flying and shooting. But anyway, thanks^^
@@DJ_Kie Could be the solution
I am brand new, starting when i get ny PC running. Have already decided to give this game a go.
Funny how the best and most relaxing time in EVE for me was being in the NPC corp you default into when leaving a corp and just chugging along in there. No wars, no BS, no forced PVP. Joining a corp can be fine if you find people who you get along with and have the same goals. Anything above that like an alliance is pretty much paying monthly for a game for people to tell you want to do all the time. Other than being able to fly a big ship anything out of high sec is pretty boring and supringly uneventful. To those who don't know going into low or null security space is usually system after system of empty space.
Exactly! Most large Corps in Eve are absolute cancer to the new player. Stay in an NPC Corp until you find out what you like to do and play and do what you want to do when you want to do it. You will have a lot more fun learning the game than being under the thumb of a large Corp.
I’ve always been interested by multiplayer sandbox games and the endless possibilities that our universe provides, so this is probably the closest game to a perfect game in my opinion. However, looking through the videos related to Eve, I’m beginning to wonder if I really have the time and effort to develop and achieve my goals in this game. I’ve been a FPS player for quite a while and maybe I’m not ready for this kind of intensity yet. I think the future me will probably pick up this game and I hope he doesn’t regret it, because some dreams are meant to be dreams.
im a fps player and might go pro on valorant and just started eve today, im really enjoying
I've also been playing for seven years (nearly non-stop), and still a sperm with a lot to learn.
🎉I would like to thank everyone involved in this upload
waiting for skills and the dumb repetition of rep quests killed my love for this game :/
I like the idea of just cruising through space enjoying how beautiful it is lmao. I think it would be a very therapeutic experience. 😂
You forgot the most valuable commodity in EVE is trust !! This why small corps can thrive in the right spots in New Eden. Then get war decked and extorted. And realize you have to give that moon base up because they are bigger or far more skilled than you It's still cool ! In that affair I got a free help me ticket but who knows if that would be honored. Either way I made enough to skill up characters buy ships even make money on plex. However it does take a while.
The best ship in EVE is friendship :D
I'll definitely be giving this a try. This reminds me a lot of Freelancer, minus game missions though.
Ive played for the first time a few years ago. It was all fun until I learned about Plesk. Just dropping in a few bucks saves you hundreds of hours of time in game of trying to acquire ISK. So I did that then all my goals were null and void, no need to mine, explore, rat or gank. You have everything you want. So then the game is instantly boring to me.
Dear Eve, make a new server and remove Plesk and have subscriptions just like WoW! Cheating makes the game boring.
So don’t buy PLEX.
Or rather, don’t buy anymore PLEX than you need to keep your clones OMEGA level.
@@Xalerdane I tried that, you just feel behind everyone who is dumping money into plex and buying skills and ships. It just turns the game into a pay to play, takes the fun out of it for me.
“It’s time to cry, rage quit...” what a great line.
Always wanted to play EVE online, but i never will. The biggest reason is the toxic community. Defend it all you want but it won't change the truth.
@Boddhi Oh look a toxic community member HAHA!
Im sorry to say chap but sadly what doesnt have a "toxic community" these days?? The reeeeeeee vocal minority is out in force everywhere, and Karens have got hold of a steering wheel!!! :P
One of the best games out there in terms of player requirement. Its a bit like dark souls. you either love it or hate it. Dont knock it til you tried it and 50p says you'll fall in love with it.
@@DJ_Kie If your comment was supposed to win me over...it didn't >.>
@@MerchantIvoryfilms Nope Just commenting. Let be real.. trying win over a person on the internet with an opinion? Cmon... :P
@@DJ_Kie Why even comment?
Flying minmitar ships is like duct taping yourself to a chair and going down a flight of stairs with a pair of uzi"s
i played it a full 6 hours and it helped me forget about my abusive, manipulative, cokehead of a white girl exgirlfriend.
Congrats to you
Haha
Lmao... Yup, great distraction for that BS...
And now, when you remember it at odd moments.....You realize she is now trashing some other poor bastards life....AND YOU GRIN....Yes you do...ADMIT IT!!!!
Actions in Archeage 2.9 version gave a lot and I mean a LOT of emotion. And add to that the /faction chat.
EXCEL SPREADSHEETS IN SPACE!!
3:26 And that's 1 of the main reasons I like this game. Too many people in today's society are obsessed with instant gratification.
Some random dude on youtube: *calls miners carebears*
Miners: *goes on a strike and economy halts*
Some random dude on youtube and EVE Online community in their expensive toys with no ammunition: *surprised pikachu face*
Then after sad miners quit Chinese bots come in to make silly $$$ on the price jump.
@@hailstorm7868 and absolutely nothing changes in reality, afterward. lol
Thank you for a great video. To the point and Not Long Winded. I just started 3 days ago, wish I had started 4 months ago like I wanted. I’m Blown away by the Magnitude of this game, I knew it was big but OMG. It’s crazy. So Any Advice or Help you Have Would Be Great. Ty again
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Thank you for your insights, liked your video a lot. I had difficulties to understand the reason, why it's such a successful game. Especially when I read news that ***** amount of time is eradicated in a (for me) silly personal war. But I am grasping now thanks your video. One instance is indeed gigantic.
But as a dedicated ED player I think you have nothing so cool like our fuel rats / hull seals. Even if I never needed their support so far. Feel often like a small boy looking up to them.