Lol, that was funny. By the way, for your kind information, we the taekwondo players use those kicks just for swift which gives our kick a different power
The problem is not high kicks and TKD. The problem here is when he feinted the Left leg Sidekick and Switched to a Roundhouse, he didn't land properly.
There's nothing wrong with High Kicks. The problem was that Switch Kick has your base foot off the ground and his COG was too far back. People pull off Tornado Kicks all the time in TKD.
+Eric Alonzo thats is why i hate it alot of jkd practioners. I myself practice everyday full on sparring with my brother. with suit and test my My skills
+SquidPlaysGames | IOS/PC I prefer wing chun over jkd but since jkd originated from wing chun I guess I would study more JKD and practice what works for me more.
+NOS Street King yeah :) i've been in fights aswell i must say it works When u know how to apply it. so best bet is to Spar with someone irl not just shadow boxing
True my first fight I got beat up. Then wing chun and after studying it its like you can walk through anyone amazing how you can direct punches and win a fight without having to strike
JKD guy...he's not supposed to copy bruce lee..He seems uncomfortable with that stance...JKD is formless, use what is the most comfortable for you depending on the situation you're in...
EM zee So like...everyone? MMA is pretty formless, you got Khabib wrestle fucking everyone you got Conor punching the shit out of people landing KO’s, then you got Wonderboy kicking everyone in the face, you also have the Diaz brothers submitting people and really just lasting longer with cardio. The ounces and kicks are different. Bruce Lee was ahead of his own time in saying that martial arts should be an expression of what works for the individual person, but what works for individuals is what they’ll do. I don’t think JKD is really a necessary art bc everyone basically follows its principles to a large extent. Do what works for you, basic and effective. Do you get what I’m tryna say?
It still requires to have a starting point, which is Bruce Lee's style, which is using Fencing type stances for good footwork, and mixing in boxing with it, as well as a bit of Wing Chun. And any stance or footwork requires work before you're fully comfortable. You can practice any way, and eventually you'll actually get comfortable with the work it does. Even if it isn't now, it will be later after practicing with.
JKD is good for showing off stylish attacks which can't be applied properly against skilled fighter even on ordinary people...U just spoke the ultimate truth man
@@sumanjana401 bullish you guys cant differ between a fight sport and self defense martial art. TKD in this form is for show fights in competition. JKD contains a lot of forbidden attacks that you cant even use in this sparring. Also they both wont hit to the head which in TKD is never done with the fists.
Simply put .....JKD was meant for point scoring. It's a subtle art form whereas sure sparring is always a great thing, but it wasn't meant for this TWO JKD is about freedom of expression. The karate guy could or should have gotten caught by the JKD guy on a couple of occasions AND JKD is never about attack ( or shouldn't be ) but interception. The problem here is that you'd take a conventional way of learning JKD to the street and apply ONLY those lessons and cannot score when other opportunities arise like catching your opponents kick and sweeping the leg from underneath him. But even in JKD we get caught up in ' styles ' and don't " honestly express " ourselves which was the problem here. And yes, Bruce Lee didn't want anybody to be like him .....but find your own path and follow what works. Be water my friend
Regardless whether the guy is JKD or not. I admier the fact that he is willing to put himself in an unfamilar enviroment. He will learn from this. Martial arts is a journey not a destination. So many negative comments. He has courage & heart.
JKd is not a style. Is CONCEPTS. Second a true person EMPLOYING JKD techniques would be much more quicker and rounded. I personally would not kick the TKD guy I would wait for him to kick me then grab is leg and go into a judo flip or jujitsu. I would only use JKD PRINCIPLES to intercept then attack with Muay thai or boxing. Thats what JKD IS PERSONAL LIBERATION. My way is not the only way obviously BUT this guy is not going with the natural bends of things as Bruce lee taught. So theree for he is not a true JKD practitioner. A true JKD HUMAN BEING uses everything. No judo flips, no jujitsu, no boxing? Hes just jumping around like a jelly bean.
jkd is a style and philosophy. Even Dan Inosanto referred it as Art and Philosophy of JKD. JKD is over-rated. Lot of those judo/jujutsu moves in JKD is not practical to pull off in real fight since most JKD schools do not spar with grappling. So that JKD guy only had striking in his arsonal. Boxing techniques in JKD? JKD's founder Bruce Lee dabbled in all arts he practiced. He was not a master in any of them. Boxing in JKD is very rudimentary. JKD basically was left with poor striking techniques, and JKD was beat up by TKD guy who at least learned at least one thing (striking) from masters who knew about it.
@@eduds6 Brazil DID do MMA before Bruce Lee but you need to remember that United States was in a different era in martial art history than Brazil. Brazil already had MMA/BJJ revolution in martial art community doing MMA even back in 1940s or even before. As for United States, MMA/BJJ revolution in 1993. When Bruce Lee created JKD in 1960s, this was the time when kung fu was popular in films and karate, tkd, tang soo do, kempo, kajukenbo were seen fighting in karate tournaments. Worldwide, it was around 2000-2001 when MMA/BJJ revolution changed martial art communities, replacing old martial art ideas with new martial art ideas that you see today in UFC.
I've been practicing JKD for about a year now and I've had the chance to spar a couple TKD people. They do have great kicks very early on I found, which is what you see in most TKD videos. But, they seem to throw a kick based on the idea that that one single kick is worth risking putting themselves in any position you can imagine. One guy caught me with several good lead round and thrust kicks. But if i could deflect the kick or close the gap before full swing, he would leave life ending openings to the throat and nearly a full exposed chin. Idk. I respect it, but it seems more a style thats built for sport rather than real combat.
Practiced a bit of both styles in my younger days. I have to say though, the JKD guy is too much on defense and is 90 percent inside the kicking ranges of standard TKD kicks. A lot of near misses and sure knockouts if he gets hit even once when the TKD was firing away. He needs to get in mid to close range and press on with JKD straight line punches to negate kicking advantage of TKD. In a real fight though the TKD guy takes too many risks. The early slip he had would have ended the fight if it was on the street. Easy to knock yourself out on the ground if your head gets banged trying out risky maneuvers on concrete especially when you take off from the ground. Can't afford misses with those types of kicks.
To anyone that is an expert here and critizes that JKD pracicionour : LISTEN please. First of all respect to him, he had the balls to face that TKD guy, who seemed to be a tough fighter to me. 90 percent of the people here have never fought in the ring or did a full/semi contact match anyhow.. Second thing: No one says he is a second Bruce Lee. he propably goes to work and trains in JKD in his free time. plus he is at a specific state of training, he might be a ''beast'' in 5 years who knows... so give him and yourself a break. Respect to both fighters here !
Personally not criticizing him at all. He had great form and seemed a good martial artist and had solid stance. That tkd guy is going pro and u just can't fuck with pro timing. I'll bet jkd would work these keyboard warriors🤣
the taekwondo guy was pretty good, fast, good footwork, good flexibility and sufficient power. the JKD boy needs to practice more. no offense to his martial art, it's just he has less experience than the other boy. actualy, the taekwondo guy could be more gentle to someone with much less experience.
that kick at 1:12 was pretty quick actually. Normally the kicks are easy to follow but my first time watching this video I didn't realize what was happening until the kick was a foot away from his head. Any idea how long the JKD guy has been training? He spins a lot, goes straight down the line, and does a lot of retreating into the kicking range where the TKD guy will excel.
Because I am a certified JKD instructor. And JKD is a hand based philosophy that incorporates kicks but kicks are usually not our strength's like they are in TKD.. We train four ranges diligently. The guy in the video stayed at one range through out the fight which was kicking which completely plays into the TKD fighters strength. A true JKD partitioner at some point is going to check or parry a kick and close that gap quickly to hand then trapping range. So you can call bullshit all you want, but either the guy labeling the video was mistaken or this guy misrepresented himself.
Alright, I was just wondering if you were another keyboard ninja, because the toughest people out there are on the Internet. I totally understand, my mistake, I apologize. Most videos when the TKD guy loses, it's automatically crap, but when the Muay Thai guy loses, then "this is not the real Muay Thai." It pisses me off.
No reason to apologize buddy. Just a friendly discussion. I agree with you though about people on the internet. There is a real lack of respect with some people because they know they can say whatever they want and most likely get away with not having to back it up. Take care.
That guy doesn't know how to use or doesn't even know what JKD is .. He is supposed to be like water, he doesn't show any form of position but he ain't fluid, that guy didn't know JKD.
I've only been training in JKD for like, 3 months and I'm way better than the JKD representative in this video. The JKD guy doesn't even block / counter, and just does punching and kicking. Obviously a noob.
From what I've seen of TKD and JKD videos, the JKD practioner always kicks with his leading foot, unless by mistake he kicks with his rear foot. On the other hand, TKD kicks seem to be a mix of leading foot and rear foot kicks. I think that the idea of the leading foot doing the kicks would be to avoid telegraphing your intention to your opponent and not having to cover as much distance to the target.
This guy (jkd) did not use wing chun's technic (attack&protect), did not use high and low kicks, did not use jiu- jitsu's techic, did not use power of punches from boxing, did not use karate's lightning kicks and did not use kung fu's (wushu) pliability, speed. This is non JKD. Learning 10 000 different kicks are not important. But important is learning one kick 10 000 times!
@@trashboat2687 jkd is a philosophy, but it does have a primary stance which bruce discovered to be the best so everyone in jkd is using bruce's stance because its the best. Although the wideness and a few adjustments is up to the person to feel comfortable and able to move as quickly as possible
I don't get why so many people curse at the fighters. Yea there are some bad performance. But that's why they train so they know their weakness and train to be better
I can add some color here because I have sparred and competed in both styles. This was a TKD style fight which means no punching to the head. It focused on sport type kicking. JKD uses the straight lead to open combinations. JKD uses a lot of western boxing, especially in sparring/sport. When you go against a JKD fighter in sparring they throw a lot of jabs/straight leads to the head. Just like most stand up styles. When you take 2 different styles for sparring you need to meet in the middle. It’s like asking that TKD guy to fight a black belt BJJ guy on the ground.
Next time make it a true kicking boxing match. Punching to the head is the basics of stand-up fighting. The TKD guy might have still gotten the best of him, but I saw a JKD guy who didn’t have his full tools and didn’t feel comfortable fighting sport TKD. I am actually not sure why this JKD guy is competing in a TKD tournament.
I agree. I see a lot of comments about 'street, street, street' but many street fighters are terrible. The advantage they have is that they sucker punch, they'll pick up knives and broken bottles and sticks, or they'll go for eyes and balls. If a trained fighter decides to fight that way, I'd say 9 times out of 10 he'd DECIMATE a street fighter. You have some street guys that fight constantly, but most of them just don't, so they don't get to practice.
hey guys, this is not JKD , cause JKD has no limits or rules. In the ring there are rules and limitations(of space for example) . So you cannot simple apply what you know in the ring. Eye jabs, Groin kicks or solar plexus punches cannot be used. on the other side we have a TKD fighter who knows how to fight in the ring , cause this is why he is training for. That's why he took down the JKD fighter. ps: anyway it''s alwayes good to have a great sparring session we any martial artist, this is one way to improve yourself and your opponent.
The JKD is fighting the Tae Kwon Do guy's fight staying at the kicking range. Should've kept him at a trapping range. Plus the JKD looks more like kick boxer
people keep saying how the fighter sucks, and how taekwondo is no good, i think this school rocks, the same place, and they beat a muay thai guy, this place has some good taekwondo fighters, i think people just dont know what there doing in taekwondo i seen alot of good fighters who throw those kicks and punches phenominally.
+albert puljos I think it all depends on the school, ive been training in martial arts since I was 4: and have seen alot of students pass through the school for Tae Kwon Do from other schools and they could not punch to save their lives, where at my school it seems like we do alot more punching than we do kicking... Needless to say the people from other schools don't last long
yes, or use the skills of wing tsung for block and counterattack!!!!. If the oponent use the distance of kicks, INTERCEPT with punches (the boxers use this strategy for example). Thinking exclusively in low line attacks (for kicking) and forgot attack to head or chest is not good idea
It's not the sport that sucks or is useless, but it's either the practitioner, the teacher and/or the school that teaches it. If you stick with your martial art and perfect it, training hard, pushing yourself, motivating yourself, damn every martial art is great. Whether it be TKD, boxing, karate, Muay Thai, aikido, and other styles, they're all useful in their own way. In TKD, for example, I see a lot of people in the comments say it's useless, some say it's gay, some say it's shit, but hell, have you EVER even tried TKD yourself? Some people say they are black belts and they realized they wasted time of their lives training for a useless sport. Who says that? Whoever starts a martial art, will have moral values and complete respect not only for the other martial arts but also for their own. It's their discipline, after all, training for years to achieve black belt then after that say that the martial art is bad or gay or whatever bad they wanna say about it. Of course, every martial art has it's pros and cons. For example, Muay Thai is great for blocking kicks that come from the side and boasts destructive attacks with elbows, knees, and other stuff, but a TKD practitioner can find it's weak spot if timed right: a center linear attack like a front kick or a push kick to bring heavy damage to the center(since Muay Thai fighters normally block the side, not the middle). But at the same time, Muay Thai is also great against TKD due to it's punches, and pros, cons, and counters against one another goes on. The thing is, you have to understand your martial art to be able to find a way to defend yourself either from the outside world or from other styles. Remember, we, as martial artists, are different, and we should respect each other as great people. As for the non-martial artists... Stay out of this if you have nothing good to say. We can handle it. Who cares where it comes from or what's it called or what it specializes in? What's important is that you have the fighting spirit and mental and moral values to achieve and succeed. If you don't like the sport, fine, we understand, but don't ruin it's name or make fun of it because there is a 97.89% chance that behind that screen, the person typing that bad comment is not a martial artist or is just one of those keyboard warriors or whatever those people are called.
If you are JKD and you agree to a TKD sparring session with their rules, you will most likely lose the contest.I can attest to this from my past.Whenever it was TKD rules I lost everytime.When the instructors allowed us to "street spar" where we could face punch and grapple I WON everytime vs pure TKD students.
Lol I don't think that's what he meant. He was saying how To defeat someone from another style when you train in a multitude of styles, is to use the arts that they are uncomfortable with. Using grappling against a TKD guy, or low kicking a boxer, etc.
The jeet kune do guy was supposed to block or evade, and then counter, but it looks like the taekwondo guy has much more experienced and know how to use intimidation as an ally when striking
I study Jeet Kune Do and practice it, wat I wud hav to say is that the JKD fighter is good but he needs to look for openings naturally, like water and be faster too, as for the TKD fighter he's good too but he's sacrificing his stance to kick him and he doznt even make an attempt to get back up on his feet in less than a second
since Bruce Lee describe JKD it has no forms and style of fighting but most of them are focus in Speed and Effect more likely. The art of expressing the human body
Don't hate because the TKD stylist is smokin his ass. Every discipline is great in the right hands. Teacher + Student= Prodigy. That is a formula that is passed down throughout the generations. If you have a great teacher, you will have a great student
Hey brother ......please tell me can marital arts beat multiple attackers....??? Many people told that its a biggest lie of Martial arts history ....please tell me...
A fight between a one year JKD guy who lowers his guard when he's doing his speedless and powerless kicks against a more experienced TKD guy... Not fair, not at all.
I love how the red belt keeps falling over on his own.
Yeah but he won
fish verses a cat. flop flop flop run run run does one trick correctly flop flip flop flip
Lol, that was funny. By the way, for your kind information, we the taekwondo players use those kicks just for swift which gives our kick a different power
Red belt is Taekwondo
He kept on slipping attempting the back hook kick
0:06 classic. This happened to me a million times when I did kickboxing. High kicks are a no go. Leg kicks are the truth and the light.
kickboxing uses both. Some styles like full contact kickboxing (american) bans low kicks all together. They are still effective.
@@alter5057 he dropped the guy with a head kick at the end 🧐
That's what TKD practices splits
The problem is not high kicks and TKD. The problem here is when he feinted the Left leg Sidekick and Switched to a Roundhouse, he didn't land properly.
There's nothing wrong with High Kicks. The problem was that Switch Kick has your base foot off the ground and his COG was too far back. People pull off Tornado Kicks all the time in TKD.
Brurce Lee was like, wtf you only use leg to vs TKD's leg ?
If this is real life that drop kick is useless tho honestly
they agreed to not punch to the head cuz the TKD fighter maybe never do it. Thats just an unfair fight where for the TKD fans.
@@stillgotyourmom llora pues
@@horacthy8577 Ur incapablity= other's incapablity??
punch when u have to punch kic when u have to kick. this guy isnt applying His Jkd right.
+SquidPlaysGames | IOS/PC no one ever uses it right. every one tries to do what worked for bruce and not what works for them
+Eric Alonzo thats is why i hate it alot of jkd practioners. I myself practice everyday full on sparring with my brother.
with suit and test my My skills
+SquidPlaysGames | IOS/PC I prefer wing chun over jkd but since jkd originated from wing chun I guess I would study more JKD and practice what works for me more.
+NOS Street King yeah :) i've been in fights aswell i must say it works When u know how to apply it. so best bet is to Spar with someone irl not just shadow boxing
True my first fight I got beat up. Then wing chun and after studying it its like you can walk through anyone amazing how you can direct punches and win a fight without having to strike
JKD guy...he's not supposed to copy bruce lee..He seems uncomfortable with that stance...JKD is formless, use what is the most comfortable for you depending on the situation you're in...
Wow. Someone who finally understands the finally understands JKD's 3 stages.
He was also telegraphing a lot.
EM zee So like...everyone? MMA is pretty formless, you got Khabib wrestle fucking everyone you got Conor punching the shit out of people landing KO’s, then you got Wonderboy kicking everyone in the face, you also have the Diaz brothers submitting people and really just lasting longer with cardio. The ounces and kicks are different. Bruce Lee was ahead of his own time in saying that martial arts should be an expression of what works for the individual person, but what works for individuals is what they’ll do. I don’t think JKD is really a necessary art bc everyone basically follows its principles to a large extent. Do what works for you, basic and effective. Do you get what I’m tryna say?
It still requires to have a starting point, which is Bruce Lee's style, which is using Fencing type stances for good footwork, and mixing in boxing with it, as well as a bit of Wing Chun.
And any stance or footwork requires work before you're fully comfortable. You can practice any way, and eventually you'll actually get comfortable with the work it does. Even if it isn't now, it will be later after practicing with.
EM zee so so true
people practice JKD thinking they gonna fight like Bruce Lee, then they step up the ring and get knocked out by other martial arts. BL was unique.
So trueee
Agreed
JKD is good for showing off stylish attacks which can't be applied properly against skilled fighter even on ordinary people...U just spoke the ultimate truth man
@@sumanjana401 bullish you guys cant differ between a fight sport and self defense martial art. TKD in this form is for show fights in competition. JKD contains a lot of forbidden attacks that you cant even use in this sparring. Also they both wont hit to the head which in TKD is never done with the fists.
Simply put .....JKD was meant for point scoring. It's a subtle art form whereas sure sparring is always a great thing, but it wasn't meant for this TWO JKD is about freedom of expression. The karate guy could or should have gotten caught by the JKD guy on a couple of occasions AND JKD is never about attack ( or shouldn't be ) but interception. The problem here is that you'd take a conventional way of learning JKD to the street and apply ONLY those lessons and cannot score when other opportunities arise like catching your opponents kick and sweeping the leg from underneath him. But even in JKD we get caught up in ' styles ' and don't " honestly express " ourselves which was the problem here.
And yes, Bruce Lee didn't want anybody to be like him .....but find your own path and follow what works.
Be water my friend
jkd guy need more practice
Thats is sparrings is all about.
He should be counter attacking morr
truth
Yeah his foot work also not supposed to cross legs he is just immitating bruce lee sparing footage but he's ok
Jkd is an unexpert, he should be closer and use high kicks and one inch punch frequently
this is not JKD definitely
true this is not JKD
I agree
Practicioner believes it is jkd
it IS JKD. and it got is A** whooped
Regardless whether the guy is JKD or not. I admier the fact that he is willing to put himself in an unfamilar enviroment. He will learn from this. Martial arts is a journey not a destination. So many negative comments. He has courage & heart.
Jeet kune do (The way of the intercepting fist) he needs speed to intercept his enemy's attack
JKd is not a style. Is CONCEPTS. Second a true person EMPLOYING JKD techniques would be much more quicker and rounded. I personally would not kick the TKD guy I would wait for him to kick me then grab is leg and go into a judo flip or jujitsu. I would only use JKD PRINCIPLES to intercept then attack with Muay thai or boxing. Thats what JKD IS PERSONAL LIBERATION. My way is not the only way obviously BUT this guy is not going with the natural bends of things as Bruce lee taught. So theree for he is not a true JKD practitioner. A true JKD HUMAN BEING uses everything. No judo flips, no jujitsu, no boxing? Hes just jumping around like a jelly bean.
Vale tudo did It before Bruce Lee. We brazilians had George Gracie and others who did exactly that and started adapting everything freely.
jkd is a style and philosophy. Even Dan Inosanto referred it as Art and Philosophy of JKD.
JKD is over-rated. Lot of those judo/jujutsu moves in JKD is not practical to pull off in real fight since most JKD schools do not spar with grappling. So that JKD guy only had striking in his arsonal. Boxing techniques in JKD? JKD's founder Bruce Lee dabbled in all arts he practiced. He was not a master in any of them. Boxing in JKD is very rudimentary.
JKD basically was left with poor striking techniques, and JKD was beat up by TKD guy who at least learned at least one thing (striking) from masters who knew about it.
@@eduds6 Brazil DID do MMA before Bruce Lee but you need to remember that United States was in a different era in martial art history than Brazil. Brazil already had MMA/BJJ revolution in martial art community doing MMA even back in 1940s or even before. As for United States, MMA/BJJ revolution in 1993. When Bruce Lee created JKD in 1960s, this was the time when kung fu was popular in films and karate, tkd, tang soo do, kempo, kajukenbo were seen fighting in karate tournaments. Worldwide, it was around 2000-2001 when MMA/BJJ revolution changed martial art communities, replacing old martial art ideas with new martial art ideas that you see today in UFC.
Wowwwwwww let that be his JKD and may it one day evolve! Keep training buddy. Respects for trying!
I've been practicing JKD for about a year now and I've had the chance to spar a couple TKD people. They do have great kicks very early on I found, which is what you see in most TKD videos. But, they seem to throw a kick based on the idea that that one single kick is worth risking putting themselves in any position you can imagine. One guy caught me with several good lead round and thrust kicks. But if i could deflect the kick or close the gap before full swing, he would leave life ending openings to the throat and nearly a full exposed chin. Idk. I respect it, but it seems more a style thats built for sport rather than real combat.
Por eso bajas la barbilla se hecha la cabeza hacia delante y además para el equilibrio.
Y Taekwondo es un arte marcial no un deporte no seas ignorante.
Practiced a bit of both styles in my younger days. I have to say though, the JKD guy is too much on defense and is 90 percent inside the kicking ranges of standard TKD kicks. A lot of near misses and sure knockouts if he gets hit even once when the TKD was firing away. He needs to get in mid to close range and press on with JKD straight line punches to negate kicking advantage of TKD.
In a real fight though the TKD guy takes too many risks. The early slip he had would have ended the fight if it was on the street. Easy to knock yourself out on the ground if your head gets banged trying out risky maneuvers on concrete especially when you take off from the ground. Can't afford misses with those types of kicks.
I think they can’t punch to the face. WTF vs ITF TKD. Looks like WTF to me. JKD guy has 3/4s of his arsenal eliminated before he steps in the square.
these fools have made JKD into a style rather than an art !!
TKD is beautiful 😍
??? now mdr
@@dmfdaima4264 ??? Now mdr what?
To anyone that is an expert here and critizes that JKD pracicionour : LISTEN please.
First of all respect to him, he had the balls to face that TKD guy, who seemed to be a tough fighter to me. 90 percent of the people here have never fought in the ring or did a full/semi contact match anyhow..
Second thing: No one says he is a second Bruce Lee. he propably goes to work and trains in JKD in his free time. plus he is at a specific state of training, he might be a ''beast'' in 5 years who knows... so give him and yourself a break.
Respect to both fighters here !
Personally not criticizing him at all. He had great form and seemed a good martial artist and had solid stance. That tkd guy is going pro and u just can't fuck with pro timing. I'll bet jkd would work these keyboard warriors🤣
Thats not JKD his form an defense need work.
This video= an insult to both martial arts.
sosabim sr what i wrong with tkd guy, it looks good to me
I argee these fighters are phoneys they have no skill and are disgraceful too both arts
TKD guy was doing the standard competition kicks. JKD guy though, I have to agree with you.
sosabim sr your profile pic an insult to martial artista
the taekwondo guy was pretty good, fast, good footwork, good flexibility and sufficient power. the JKD boy needs to practice more. no offense to his martial art, it's just he has less experience than the other boy. actualy, the taekwondo guy could be more gentle to someone with much less experience.
that kick at 1:12 was pretty quick actually. Normally the kicks are easy to follow but my first time watching this video I didn't realize what was happening until the kick was a foot away from his head.
Any idea how long the JKD guy has been training? He spins a lot, goes straight down the line, and does a lot of retreating into the kicking range where the TKD guy will excel.
I doubt very seriously if that guy has ever studied under a certified JKD instructor.
Richard Cetrone Maybe for a week
Why? Because the TKD guy won? Bullshit
Because I am a certified JKD instructor. And JKD is a hand based philosophy that incorporates kicks but kicks are usually not our strength's like they are in TKD.. We train four ranges diligently. The guy in the video stayed at one range through out the fight which was kicking which completely plays into the TKD fighters strength. A true JKD partitioner at some point is going to check or parry a kick and close that gap quickly to hand then trapping range. So you can call bullshit all you want, but either the guy labeling the video was mistaken or this guy misrepresented himself.
Alright, I was just wondering if you were another keyboard ninja, because the toughest people out there are on the Internet. I totally understand, my mistake, I apologize. Most videos when the TKD guy loses, it's automatically crap, but when the Muay Thai guy loses, then "this is not the real Muay Thai." It pisses me off.
No reason to apologize buddy. Just a friendly discussion. I agree with you though about people on the internet. There is a real lack of respect with some people because they know they can say whatever they want and most likely get away with not having to back it up. Take care.
Where is the JKD ?? O_O
How can you use Bruce's Art with Rules??
I find it difficult to put different arts against each other because they go my different rules and the rules can completely tie a person down.
TKD vs a philosophy? ....poor Bruce its turned out exactly as you feared
***** JKD is not a style was the point of my comment.
That guy doesn't know how to use or doesn't even know what JKD is
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He is supposed to be like water, he doesn't show any form of position but he ain't fluid, that guy didn't know JKD.
i felt his footwork was quite just like bruce lee! except that he sucked in other departments such as defense, offence
Johnny Channarong yeah is footwork was OK but he doesn't know anything apart from that
he probably learnt it from watching bruce lee's movies.. LOL..
I've only been training in JKD for like, 3 months and I'm way better than the JKD representative in this video. The JKD guy doesn't even block / counter, and just does punching and kicking. Obviously a noob.
From what I've seen of TKD and JKD videos, the JKD practioner always kicks with his leading foot, unless by mistake he kicks with his rear foot. On the other hand, TKD kicks seem to be a mix of leading foot and rear foot kicks. I think that the idea of the leading foot doing the kicks would be to avoid telegraphing your intention to your opponent and not having to cover as much distance to the target.
It is not the art it is the person who use the art. It's all up to you
please don't call these jkd
I do TKD and i fully agree with you. This is why it is best to learn more than one MA to become good.
It's not about the style it's all about how you use it (be water my friend) Bruce Lee said love from Taekwondo practitioner here 🇵🇭🥋
i remember bruce lee says, be like water, adapt to anything, formless. as long as what is comfortable to u
This guy (jkd) did not use wing chun's technic (attack&protect), did not use high and low kicks, did not use jiu- jitsu's techic, did not use power of punches from boxing, did not use karate's lightning kicks and did not use kung fu's (wushu) pliability, speed. This is non JKD. Learning 10 000 different kicks are not important. But important is learning one kick 10 000 times!
There's no JKD!
... What ruleset was dis? Points?
Not JKD
I see some tkd, but, where's the jkd? :v
Charly Baez every martial art have signature stance .and that is a jkd stance..
no
Jkd has no specific stance nor style
ChrisENT yes it does
@@trashboat2687 jkd is a philosophy, but it does have a primary stance which bruce discovered to be the best so everyone in jkd is using bruce's stance because its the best. Although the wideness and a few adjustments is up to the person to feel comfortable and able to move as quickly as possible
that's not JKD!
I cant see jkd anywhere haha
What I see is a good and professional referee and judges
There is no JKD what so ever in this video.
What do you mean?
I have been practicing JFJKD and WTS for years, and I cannot see any JKD in this video, because there simply isn't.
***** there is no jkd.. jkd wud have killed that guy within a minute.. jkd dont like to waste any tym with stupid fights JKD KILLS..
Mohanish Ingole yep all I saw was sorta TKD
Mohanish Ingole JKD isn't a person.
He was talking like it was._.
JKD is a system of taking what's useful for and adding it to your own.
It's not the art, but the artist.
Both are learning there's I'd no such thing as master of any martial art but mastering yourself.
How do you know what he practices? just looks to me that the TKD is a more experienced and better fighter
It is doubtful whether it is JKD or not.
This is an insult on JKD but the TKD guy is good
That was hilarious at 2:08 just after he gets kicked in the head you can hear a bell ringing.
When it comes to leg, nothing can stop taekwondo
Amazing! I was hoping JKD would've done more but TKD got that
It's not about the style it's how you use it
TKD guy can fight in full contact nice👍👏
I don't get why so many people curse at the fighters. Yea there are some bad performance. But that's why they train so they know their weakness and train to be better
Very true such situations are meant to make a fighter better. The moment they lose they are disowned. Credit to both fighters
what's this?
I can add some color here because I have sparred and competed in both styles. This was a TKD style fight which means no punching to the head. It focused on sport type kicking. JKD uses the straight lead to open combinations. JKD uses a lot of western boxing, especially in sparring/sport. When you go against a JKD fighter in sparring they throw a lot of jabs/straight leads to the head. Just like most stand up styles. When you take 2 different styles for sparring you need to meet in the middle. It’s like asking that TKD guy to fight a black belt BJJ guy on the ground.
Next time make it a true kicking boxing match. Punching to the head is the basics of stand-up fighting. The TKD guy might have still gotten the best of him, but I saw a JKD guy who didn’t have his full tools and didn’t feel comfortable fighting sport TKD. I am actually not sure why this JKD guy is competing in a TKD tournament.
I agree. I see a lot of comments about 'street, street, street' but many street fighters are terrible. The advantage they have is that they sucker punch, they'll pick up knives and broken bottles and sticks, or they'll go for eyes and balls. If a trained fighter decides to fight that way, I'd say 9 times out of 10 he'd DECIMATE a street fighter. You have some street guys that fight constantly, but most of them just don't, so they don't get to practice.
hey guys, this is not JKD , cause JKD has no limits or rules. In the ring there are rules and limitations(of space for example) . So you cannot simple apply what you know in the ring. Eye jabs, Groin kicks or solar plexus punches cannot be used. on the other side we have a TKD fighter who knows how to fight in the ring , cause this is why he is training for. That's why he took down the JKD fighter. ps: anyway it''s alwayes good to have a great sparring session we any martial artist, this is one way to improve yourself and your opponent.
TKD is militare art marcial in korea.
LOL no limits and no rules.. imagine if the TKD guy didnt fight with rules, he would have kicked this JKD guys nut sack off!
Is Muay Thai really that popular because most of the videos I see is all about MT fighting TKD
The JKD is fighting the Tae Kwon Do guy's fight staying at the kicking range. Should've kept him at a trapping range. Plus the JKD looks more like kick boxer
bruhh never seen such tkd guy in my area 💀 true control of body and skill
Bruce Lee if he still living ! He said : " not mine "
id recommend getting a refresher course in Bruce lee's philosophy....this kid needs to know what JKD is really all about.
Another great example of how youtube loves the videos Of this vs this but lets make one side always a beginner and the other an expert.
people keep saying how the fighter sucks, and how taekwondo is no good, i think this school rocks, the same place, and they beat a muay thai guy, this place has some good taekwondo fighters, i think people just dont know what there doing in taekwondo i seen alot of good fighters who throw those kicks and punches phenominally.
+albert puljos I think it all depends on the school, ive been training in martial arts since I was 4: and have seen alot of students pass through the school for Tae Kwon Do from other schools and they could not punch to save their lives, where at my school it seems like we do alot more punching than we do kicking... Needless to say the people from other schools don't last long
it's not the style it's the level of the fighter
yes, or use the skills of wing tsung for block and counterattack!!!!. If the oponent use the distance of kicks, INTERCEPT with punches (the boxers use this strategy for example). Thinking exclusively in low line attacks (for kicking) and forgot attack to head or chest is not good idea
C est dans ce genre de combat qu on se rend réellement compte de la différence entre le cinéma et la réalité...
It's not the sport that sucks or is useless, but it's either the practitioner, the teacher and/or the school that teaches it. If you stick with your martial art and perfect it, training hard, pushing yourself, motivating yourself, damn every martial art is great. Whether it be TKD, boxing, karate, Muay Thai, aikido, and other styles, they're all useful in their own way. In TKD, for example, I see a lot of people in the comments say it's useless, some say it's gay, some say it's shit, but hell, have you EVER even tried TKD yourself? Some people say they are black belts and they realized they wasted time of their lives training for a useless sport. Who says that? Whoever starts a martial art, will have moral values and complete respect not only for the other martial arts but also for their own. It's their discipline, after all, training for years to achieve black belt then after that say that the martial art is bad or gay or whatever bad they wanna say about it. Of course, every martial art has it's pros and cons. For example, Muay Thai is great for blocking kicks that come from the side and boasts destructive attacks with elbows, knees, and other stuff, but a TKD practitioner can find it's weak spot if timed right: a center linear attack like a front kick or a push kick to bring heavy damage to the center(since Muay Thai fighters normally block the side, not the middle). But at the same time, Muay Thai is also great against TKD due to it's punches, and pros, cons, and counters against one another goes on. The thing is, you have to understand your martial art to be able to find a way to defend yourself either from the outside world or from other styles. Remember, we, as martial artists, are different, and we should respect each other as great people. As for the non-martial artists... Stay out of this if you have nothing good to say. We can handle it. Who cares where it comes from or what's it called or what it specializes in? What's important is that you have the fighting spirit and mental and moral values to achieve and succeed. If you don't like the sport, fine, we understand, but don't ruin it's name or make fun of it because there is a 97.89% chance that behind that screen, the person typing that bad comment is not a martial artist or is just one of those keyboard warriors or whatever those people are called.
the TKD guys just like me hiting back chaggi knee always fall
Lot of people saying this isn't JKD, but all I saw was the taekwondo practitioner spending most of the time on the floor.
This is not JKD, he had about four chances to hit in the face, but he did not
If you are JKD and you agree to a TKD sparring session with their rules, you will most likely lose the contest.I can attest to this from my past.Whenever it was TKD rules I lost everytime.When the instructors allowed us to "street spar" where we could face punch and grapple I WON everytime vs pure TKD students.
great fight
Turning back kick can counter leg sweep
Lol I don't think that's what he meant. He was saying how To defeat someone from another style when you train in a multitude of styles, is to use the arts that they are uncomfortable with. Using grappling against a TKD guy, or low kicking a boxer, etc.
i agree...just see how the tkd guy give a turning kick etc...
You can tell whether someone in TKD does sparring or traditional. If their guard is solid and up they most likely do the traditional!
Bruce Lee only named 3 people who may officially teach JKD, I doubt this man learned from any of them.
Funny, everytime tkd hits the mark he also fall hard. A jkd philosophy using the enemy's power to take him down though the score's on him
0:12 .. He Literally kicked his Ass :))
And sacrifising "his" stance into a kick, I was talking bout the TKD fighter
The jeet kune do guy was supposed to block or evade, and then counter, but it looks like the taekwondo guy has much more experienced and know how to use intimidation as an ally when striking
Jkd guy forgetting the leg blocks and leg kicks and imitating movie
It's stupid how the tkd guy falls from some crazy kick and the ref steps in and saves him
+SteezyGasm well it is competition, not fighting so there has to be some sort of rules
watch his legs, and try to get closer to them, well that works for me
The jeet kun do guy barely punched
May be better if the title is "TKD vs Moving Kicking Target"
JKD with out hands,interesting lol
jkd jkd ? is shit not jkd -.-
si lo es solo que perdio.
Grammar please
This floor looks slippery as fuck
I study Jeet Kune Do and practice it, wat I wud hav to say is that the JKD fighter is good but he needs to look for openings naturally, like water and be faster too, as for the TKD fighter he's good too but he's sacrificing his stance to kick him and he doznt even make an attempt to get back up on his feet in less than a second
跆拳道跟截拳道兩位選手都是採用側身的對敵方式，在中距離的應對方式也很類似，是很有參考價值的一場比賽
since Bruce Lee describe JKD it has no forms and style of fighting but most of them are focus in Speed and Effect more likely. The art of expressing the human body
i ddnt seen jet kun do style here... does he really know about jet kun do? even basic he ddnt showed it
On a wooden gym floor. Very nice
Someone needs to teach them how to punch. They have to learn this to be well rounded.
Don't hate because the TKD stylist is smokin his ass. Every discipline is great in the right hands. Teacher + Student= Prodigy. That is a formula that is passed down throughout the generations. If you have a great teacher, you will have a great student
TKD for kicks is one of the most complete martial art, the tkd fighter knows that to use his art must keep a safe distance opponents.
yes, you're right
It’s not the style that’s not good, it’s the person who uses it
The best part of JKD is TKD!
The JKD man has the tools, but hasn't quite put it together yet.
Hey brother ......please tell me can marital arts beat multiple attackers....??? Many people told that its a biggest lie of Martial arts history ....please tell me...
A fight between a one year JKD guy who lowers his guard when he's doing his speedless and powerless kicks against a more experienced TKD guy... Not fair, not at all.