I started boxing in my teens. Then, I studied Jun Fan Gung FU/JKD for about 6 years. I thought the art was great for basic self-defense and general awareness. But once I started to study Wing Chun, there was a stark difference in my growth, control, and power. JKD appeared to be more "athletic," but the things I've been able to accomplish with understanding the forms, proper stance, and relaxation found in Wing Chun, have been incredible.
100% JKD is pretty nice but when you learn the tools from the perspective of WC, it takes it to a whole new level. Having the core understanding of WC but the flexibility of JKD is the premium fighter imo.
Wing Chun is a pretty decent art for close combat fighting. JKD was developed to be utilized at all ranges and for ground fighting as well. So, JKD is a more well rounded art.
@@PooleAcademyofWingChun Wing chun has nothing that can be truly utilized.It's been done and done again where wing chun ''fighters'' get beat up like school kids.China got so embaresed that they created Sanda (combining boxing,karate kicks and chineese wrestling).In short i don't care how sticky are your hands, if you go up against a heavyweight who punches like a train you are better of standing in front of actual one.
YOU WILL BE THE REST OF YOUR LIFE LEARNING JEET KUNE DO,AND YOU DON'T LEARN IT LIKE YOU WOULD A STYLE.REMEMBER IT CAN BE TAUGHT BUT IT CAN'T BE STANDARDIZED,LIKE A STYLE,A QUOTE FROM SIFU DANNY INNOSONTO.
JKD applies the more efficient and applicable aspects of Wing Chun along with the aspects of other arts. A caveat is to be careful of getting a false sense of security when seeking to practice Wing Chun. The movies have done a disservice to Wing Chun by sensationalizing the art as a fantasy-like fighting style. The reality is much different. But it doesn't hurt to learn the art and to be realistic about the outcome of applying it in certain situations.
JEET KUNE DO IS NOT A STYLE, IT'S A WAY OF LIFE.YOU DON'T LEARN IT LIKE YOU WOULD A STYLE, IT'S ALWAYS EVALVING,IT CAN BE TAUGHT BUT IT CAN'T BE STANDARDIZED LIKE A STYLE.FOR ME,I LOOK AT STYLES AS A REFRENCE POINT, SOMETHING TO WORK OFF OF BUT THERE NOT THE GOSPLE TRUTH,THEY WEREN'T WRITTEN INTO LAW. I STARTED OFF IN THE VERY BEGINNING,MOO DUK KWON,TAE KWON DO,THAT WAS MY REFRENCE POINT.MADE IT TO GREEN BELT AND TOOK UP BOXING LESSONS AND FOUGHT GOLDEN GLOVES AND THEN COMBINED THE 2 TOGETHER AND FOUGHT PROFESSIONAL KICKBOXING.BUT MY POINT IS I HAD A REFRENCE POINT TO WORK FROM AND IT WORKED.BRUCE LEE HAD ONE ALSO,IT WAS CALLED WING CHUN.
@@craigbosko2229 Friend told me recently a great intro into the arts is Tae Kwon Do due to the great stretching routine it offers. Helps build faster flexibility than most arts & boy was he right. Thank you for your words.
I think he probably would have arrived at the same conclusion he did, which basically was about how regardless of which martial art, the common factor is the human body, arms and legs will work the same way because its made that way. It would probably just look a little different if he started in Muay Thai or Karate, but the philosophy would have been the same.
Jeet Kune do is very different than Wing Chun. Although Bruce started in Wing Chun and other Kung Fu systems and had experience in boxing etc he pretty much moved away from most of the trapping before his death. Trapping and other things like locking etc was to be thought of as either incidental or accidental, the main purpose is always to be more simple and direct and hit the person's intention before he can react, everything else was just supplementary. Jeet Kune do is a principal based art, simple direct, non-classical, no limitation as limitation and encompasses all ranges of combat having no way as way, pretty much being a jack of all trades with idea of using the fundamental principles like the five ways of attack, which isn't in just one particular system but just encompasses the art of fighting. Bruce got rid of the forms and was looking for aliveness or realness sparring etc in training.
@Adam A. I don't disagree with you. I still teach it as well but like I was saying it's more incidental or accidental. I believe it has its place and it should be trained the sensitivity and everything that goes with it is important for many things like locking, clinch etc. I still do a lot of energy drills and trapping drills but we always make sure that we use resistance training or sparring /aliveness so people learn how to use it in a more realistic setting.
you are right, it must also be clarified that Bruce Lee defined jeet kune do as a simplification of his fighting system because many of his disciples did not progress by learning Jun Fan Gong Fu. It could be said that Bruce Lee practiced dozens of martial arts, but he only taught Jeet Kune Do, which was a simple practical summary to transmit to his students. And that he also passed away before finishing teaching. Now there are many crazy people who believe that for having learned jeet kune do in a gym they are like Bruce Lee hahaha. Jeet Kune Do also is a Bruce´s philosophy based on taoism concepts
Something that is not mentioned is that unlike Jeet Kun Do, Wing Qun was designed to CONSERVE and quickly rebuild one's energy so that if necessary, one can endure through as many opponents as necessary, and as many at the same time as necessary. As the number of opponents rises, Jeet Kun Do's probability of survival drops. Also, while it sounds nice and flexible on paper, trying to develop your own style will always leave you with blind spots. Wing Qun has those knowledge gaps filled with a far deeper and more refined lineage, when adhered to. Food for thought.
What a load of bullshit. I have no idea where you get your information from. JKD is designed to end the fight quickly, by hitting decisive, vulnerable targets for maximum damage.
There's a Dan Inosanto video in which he states that Jeet Kun Do is Wing Chun at a distance or Chi Sau at a distance. He also goes onto say that without Wing Chun there is no Jeet Kun Do.
When you look at Mike Tyson's approach to his opponent, I can't see anyone standing in front of him for long when he was at his peak. Most martial artist are not built to take a full force Tyson punch, let alone a trained professional boxer. I also don't see either organized sport being able to handle an equally trained street fighter where there are no limits to his toolbox.
Studying JKD and WC since the 70's and practicing it most of my adult life I agree with some of what you said. However, it is ESSENTIAL to realize that a critical point of JKD is that you do NOT have to sacrifice power for speed or vice versa. This makes sense since the energy transferred is a squared function of the speed (e.g. 1/2 mv^2), and the damaging third order differential of velocity and beyond ("jerk" and "snap" "crackle" and "pop") are higher order functions of the acceleration of the acceleration and beyond. The transfer of that velocity based power is all about aligning the body's mass behind it, and doing so fluidly and as quickly as possible. Again, speed/velocity is the key variable. The more quickly and completely you can relax the opposing muscle groups for the benefit of speed and resulting power transfer, the more speed and resultant power you can transfer. While this is fundamental/basic stuff, I have seen plenty of American sensei's completely miss this, and assert that speed and power are inversely related. That is simply wrong.
Ahahahahahahahahaha OMG...really ....wooow this show's just how blinded people got from shitty choreographed 70-80 karate movies...I won't judge you...what does science have to do with knocking someone out????
@@sebastianlakatosz1594 sorry mate, you'll find a lot of knockout techniques are down to the science of physiology and the bodies system of nerves, arteries and acupuncture meridians along which the chakras, ganglion and pressure points are aligned, from the souls of the feet to the roots of the teeth. Obviously some knock-outs are just mechanical shock; temple, jaw, windpipe etc, and then bone breaks and joint dislocation but don't discount a neck chop or solar plexus strike to incapacitate an opponent.
@@clivewells7090 that's why they never join UFC because that shit don't work unless it's a demonstration...so yeah watch your movie's and dream on Buddy
@@sebastianlakatosz1594 You asked what science has with getting knocked out, so, sorry to inform you. And remember that your favourite entertainment is rife with foul moves and disallowed holds because they are destructive of essential structures and pathways. Karate is adapted from kung fu and then adapted to competition. Only the family and friends were taught the truly destructive military uses of these moves, holds and strikes. How many lethal moves are practiced in MMA clubs...?
Useful only as demonstration...who did Bruce Lee beat in his life????a stunt man on the set of enter dragon?..bro wake up 🤣 until we see a kungfu or karate or what ever bullshido guy enter UFC and becoming a world champion...until then they should stick to their point fighting ..I don't really believe in a real fight someone would do a kata or number 365 dragon slaps in their opponents face 😂
hm Wing Chun isn't Characterized by blocks at all, because Wing Chun doesn't use a single block at all. Wing Chun use ONLY counterattacks instead of blocks. I learn Wing Chun for 7 years and i honestly never heard that any Wing Chun user, is using "blocks". The difference between blocks and wing chun counterattacks is simple. Blocks are made to stop an attack by blocking it with a Bodypart, against a Bodypart. like "| = block" "< = attack" "|
that is because Brucee Lee was a mix martial art sportman. He doesnt matter the styles, he just matter his oponents and the techniques, variety of techniques
@@notevenalex nothing does but practise your certain set of skills and build strengt and speed and you will be a nightmare for most bullies that try to lay hands on you. 💪⚡
Thats all good, but if you do research on street fights where practitionners have to fight in sudden confrontation, they often loose the ability the remember their fighting style and form and lose to brawlers. But its a beautiful artform and one should always seek a peaceful resolution.
I trained traditional martial arts for many years achieving multiple black belts and instructorships in such arts as, Taekwondo, Judo, Combat Sambo, Kickboxing, Shaolin kung Fu, Muay Thai Boxing, Kali, but when I really started to understand JKD every time I sparred with fellow instructors from different arts I wiped the floor with them. I don't want to sound arrogant in that statement, simply knowing JKD properly makes all the difference. You know how to adapt, counter, and how to intercept correctly. You learn about such things as, timing, half-beat attacks, drawing, faking, feinting, gaining a beat of time, non-telegraphic technique, directness, strategy, cutting the man in half, triple blows, breaking rhythm, re-zoning, stealing a step, cutting in to the tool, etc, etc. Sorry folks but Wing Chun doesn't teach you that. However, like anything, you need a very good instructor to teach you how to do it right with all the right content matter that Sijo Lee developed prior to his untimely death.
Master Leung Bik instructed Ip Man and told him that although the core principles of Wing Chun are speed and leg support they do not prohibit changes. A principle Master Lee obviously took to heart when created Jeet Kune Do. I believe Jeet Kune Do is a natural progression of Wing Chun. While some Wing Chun purists may not approve of what Master Lee did.. I believe Jeet Kune Do honors its Wing Chun roots and I believe Master Ip Man would have approved of the style.
If anyone wants more on the subject; I studied Asian Culture in College (four years) and studied Shaolin Kung Fu for 29 years, I studied Jeet Kune Do starting in 1973. A tragic year for me. There is a lot of BULLSHIT about the subject, I hope my research can help. I am also a research scientist from CU Medical Center.
My only issue with Wing Chun is the same issue I have with TKD; almost all TCMA guys have a Wing Chun background, much like American Martial Artists almost all have some experience with TKD. The problem is the carry-over of terminology to other styles. Instead of digging to find our style-specific terminology when an "unnamed" technique shows up, we just fall back to things like, "Oh, it's just a slight variation of Bong Sau", or "It's basically a palm block like Pak Sau", and move on. They might seem like insignificant knowledge-gaps, but the name of a technique can often give insight into how it's meant to be applied. It also helps certain types of learners to be able to Categorize, Organize, and Retain, when it's a style-specific name.
Inch punch came from Wing Chun. Wing Chun has many exercises which build both power and speed. My punches and kicks are effective against people who were a lot larger than myself. Bruce Lee never finished Wing Chun or any other art. However, he worked hard and perfected the basics. Bruce Lee was not allowed to teach Wing Chun to foreigners so when he started teaching Wing Chun, he renamed his art and added other styles to fill in his gaps of knowledge.
Wing Chun (traditional) is a combat art, jkd is a weak art, Wing Chun has very powerful, Wing chun is central line fighting , Bruce Lee 1" punch was developed by Wing Chun
You can’t compare it like that. As Bruce Lee said, everyone needs to find his own way. And therefore, Jeet Kune Do is more like a style. In Ving Tsun, it’s quite similar. Look at the ways different students of Ip Man fought and you’ll see, there are a dozen of differents. I learned Ving Tsun from a lineage of Wong Shun Leung, but I practiced Leung Ting Wing Tsun before. Totally different, actually Leung Ting is less Ving Tsun and more…Eskrima. But that’s the point…which style do you compare? This is too generalized. Nice to watch, but not more than a bit of entertainment
I agree with and I appreciate the phases of your “non-comparison” observation. It appears that Jeet Kune Do would be better defined (better yet, observed) as a self (essence)-exploratory journey versus a “style (distinct manner)” that the practitioner either simply understands and appreciates, himself/herself - or doesn’t.
With all martial arts, it is good, depending on how you use it and adapt to your aponent. If you can control your hits and how hard and soft you can hit with that ultimate speed. You can hit on a soft note with the 1st hit, then automatically hit hard on the second hit with a 2 hit combo. You can have that style on showing a person to hit to defend your opponent on teaching..
Punch Six Inches inside your opponent’s body. Punch repeatedly and unrelentingly from a very short distance. Do not clench your hand until the moment of impact. If it feels good you are doing it right.
I think Jeet Kune Do wins simply because of one particular principle. Pressure testing. Sparring and live combat drills are essential for any fighter to even remotely have a chance at survival and Bruce Lee couldn't stress this enough. After all how can you know what to do in a fight when you've never been in one before? Wing Chun purists have faltered time and time again to MMA fighters who have no restrictions on their style whatsoever. Even Bruce Lee himself lost a fight when he only knew Wing Chun. It wasn't until he won a boxing championship in Hong Kong where he finally began to develop himself as a true fighter.
There are so many different JKD styles out there, every student of Bruce Lee developed another way of JKD. The original style of the early Bruce Lee called "Jun Fan Do" is a totally different style from the later JKD of Bruce. But that's natural for JKD, because Bruce was changing, BTW it is the purpose and goal in JKD to continually changing and adding, to be different and to be individual. For example my style of JKD is from a Korean master GM Mikhail Kim and is very different from Bruce Lee's JKD, only the main principles are more or less the same. BTW there are also countless Wing Chun styles inside classical Wing Chun according to GMM Leung Ting's "Roots of Wing Chun" book. So comparison of JKD and Wing Chun is really difficult to master. Just to compare the core concepts and main strategies of the main styles of late Bruce Lee's JKD and the very classical Ving Tsun of Wong Shun Leung or WT from Leung Ting is not enough imo. The principles and core concepts of classical Wing Chun and JKD may seem very different at the first glance, but on the other hand there are also some similarities. So which style is better? I trained both styles over 15 years, first different styles of Wing Chun and then JKD; so to fully master JKD I suggest to start with Wing Chun (to a certain level) and go over to JKD. It is like building a lego city, you can build it up further and further and yes, it's compatible. Please don't try to imitate somebody including Bruce, be yourself, that's the goal of JKD. Thx for this awesome video guys, please more of it.
To the question why Wing Chun is not used in UFC: In the end, this style offers only a few ways to win: stab into the eye, crash in the windpipe and strike the chin with the ellbow. Maybe add a knee strike to the crotch. Because you are so close to the enemy, you lack the distance (and power) to shoot off a winning kick or a strike with the fist that would be OK with UFC rules. Of course, the short distance also increases the risk of being grappled and thrown - with the MMA opponent surely winning on the ground.
It’s the other way round. I’m a jeet kune do and wing chun martial artist. I would say that jeet kune do is way faster and more powerful, more flexible. Wing chun is pretty fast and pretty powerful, it’s just limited with striking, footwork, grappling, kicks etc. Ultimately, the individual is the most important style no matter the style learnt. But IMO, jeet kune do is way better
styles only matter so much its usually the strength of the fighter and how good they are more than wing chun vs jeetkun do but i suppose its fun to compare
I feel like Wing Chun practitioners & Jeet Kune Do practitioners need to work on their Ground Fighting game like cross train in Submission Wrestling. But if Jeet Kune Do practitioners could retrace Catch Wrestling then they might have a good advantage in their ground fighting but i think Submission Wrestling surpass Catch Wrestling but its my opinion. You should do a video of Combat Sambo vs. Jeet Kune Do.
I'm sure we all know this but not only did he have to slow down his moves to be caught on camera but they actually slowed down the camera rate per frame so we could see it on camera and still then some of it you couldn't see well it's greased lightning all sudden John travolt just pops up and starts singing Grease lightning LOL.
Se fossi piu giovane imparerei secondo me per essere completo il kung fu : per la tecnica - la boxe : potenza dei colpi - il judo: prese e bloccaggi oppure MMA o la kick boxe ?? VOi quale dite la piu' completa ??
the one inch punch, isn't a bruce lee invention... but wing chun's... in fact all strikes in wing chun strive to be one inch strikes... which is pretty much using just your striking limbs to do 2 things, get your strike as close to your target as possible and get your limbs' structure set up to be able to deliver the full power of your body that the specific strike can muster... doing this will prevent your attacks from being powerful at their beginning, which allows you to recover quickly if your strike is blocked, parried, dodged or jammed early on, and keep your endurance up, after all moving an arm or a leg back into a defensive position on a failed attack is easier than moving your entire body. Then, if both conditions are met (close enough to target, structure in place), using the rest of your body to generate power for the attack.
Wrong! Wing Chun does have kicks. Because you haven't see it doesn't mean it isn't there. Neither system is more powerful. It is the person who develops power through training. JKD is only a modified version of Wing Chun.
From what I saw there wasn't really much of stepping off the centerline in the video, so you leave your head exposed to attacks including if you're using both hands at once, you're also assuming your opponent is only throwing straight punches, martial arts history lesson, a lot of martial arts were designed to only take on the same style. In real life, if the average person tries to swat punches away what's going to end up most likely happening is you're going to get speared or tackled to the ground, then you're going to get ground and pounded or punched to a knockout. Royce Gracie took the world by storm because he incorporated something new just like Muay Thai and their devastating lower kicks. Also, they are trained to guard the side of their head with one hand as the other hand is giving the blow. Muay Thai Wins! I'm not at all stating both Wing Chun and Jeet Kune Do are useless but as for practical against a fully resisting opponent who has steroid aggression and is about to beat your face in and or is about to stab you to death I just don't see either one being superior between the two just my opinion though.
just combine stuff if you can, it's like potion brewing in minecraft and making two types of cakes in one, if you can't take it, you're gone, if you managed to successfully combine stuff, congratulations a new style.
If Bruce Lee and IP Man sparred today. IP Man would destroy Bruce Lee for the simple fact that he was the Grand Master Chinese Gung FU organization at the time of Bruce's rising in Hollywood and around the world.
WHICH style or technique WORKS BEST ON THE STREETS IS KARATE OR WING CHUN OR JEET KUNE DO THE ANSWER IS NONE OF THE ABOVE BECAUSE IT'S THE PERSON that wills it ISKCON LIKE I like the man makes the suit not the suit that makes the man get it GOOD 👊
@@alifuller1658 yes most of it is person but style is also important. I believe that the individual them self is what makes them stand out from others but You still can’t be the best fighter with a not so good martial art. That’s why I believe a good martial art and artist is the best option
Wing chun is a defensive based art. Ip Man blocked kicks and punches using kicks. Jeet Kun Do added an offensive aspect to the defensive art. Jeet Kun Do is Wing Chun. IP Man knew this.Bruce knew this..for Kung Fu learning is Never stagnant. And if your Base learning is Wing Chun, u are a Wing Chun practitioner, adding your personal style to your base art.....but there are politics in everything. Bruce swayed away from "wing chun" because politically amoung the chinese he had to.Ip man also politically asked bruce to leave his dojo, but sent him to train with his #1 desciple.....look at images of Bruce hand to hand with IP man....the joy and smile on ip mans face is pure love. He knew his Wing Chun would live on thru Lee.
I'd disagree on the defensive based art point. The main objective in Wing Chun is to hit, all the other concepts are to enable you to do this, ideally without being hit yourself.
Be formless like water comes from chinese philosophy which was taught to Bruce by Ip Man. It is part of the wing chun training philosophy that Bruce borrowed for jkd.
Mentioned- kicks are the strongest hits.... I have blocked and used multiple people's kicks against the person using it. It take focus and training though.
sacrifice speed for power? or power for speed? thats not the reality. a relaxed body creates more speed, your ability to manipulate chi is what gives you power. its not a trade-off, they hold hands
Martial art means expressing ones self honestly so why is it everyone that learns JKD seems to be a carbon copy of Bruce Lee thats not what bruce created it for
Well..... I guess you're right..... But it is their choice. Having a choice is what makes Jeet Kune Do so special. People modeling themselves to Bruce Lee is not such a bad thing.
In Jeet Kun Do defense , when an opponent steps forward, the first short kick to the forward knee of the attacker, of the JKD exponent is a Wing Chun kick. It is the one that is always used first in close quarters fighting, and therefore it is not exclusively part of JKD practice, but derived from WC. No-one is going to stand around waiting to be kicked by one of those huge JKD sidekicks, and once in the air they aren't changing direction. The fighter trying this is going to be caught out with a fast WC defensive counter measure. Wing Chun is always a defense attack move together, not one or the other. In that stupid scene in the roman Colosseum where Chuck Norris is standing there being kicked three times without using any defense to the same part of his body, which is complete rubbish. It would never have happened.
Again most people misinterpret wing chun they think because your are hitting so fast you are sacrificing power and that is not the case it’s not built off of just speed and actually bruce got hos one inch punch from wing chun not jeet June do as the one inch punch shows you the power in the smallest movement of wing chun and he knew about the one inch punch before he switched
Ok why is that guy posing as me I’m the only Bruce Lee * one shots the Bruce Lee knock-off with the six inch punch sending him flying off screen * WWOOTAAAH!
Jeet kune do is not a martial art so you can not compare it to martial art. JKD is a way of thinking. Jun fan jeet kune do is his style of kung fu, based on wing chun.
In fact Jeet Kune Do is a modern taoist philosophy based on non style fight, freedom style, the taoist philosophy of Bruce Lee to be equal like water and fast like lighting. The wushu of Bruce Lee is Jun Fan Gong Fu, and based a many more martial arts than wing chun, (judo, karate, boxing, jiu jitsu, atletism, gimnastic, hapkido, kali, eskrima, etc, etc...) wing chun was just the second martial art who Bruce Lee learned and he did not complete the learning of wing chun system.
Wing chun is jeet kune do's father. Jeet kune do is the son of wing chun, karate, tai chi, judo, jujutsu, boxing and of course. Wrestling and cha cha dancing
I just want to throw some fact into this one of Ip Man students name Hoàng Thuần Lương(VietNamese styles of his name) he beat Bruce Lee by using Wint Chun and he is a skilled Boxer he only retired because he accidentally kill a eye of his training opponents soo if Ip Man vs Bruce Lee while both as they prime Ip Man would win considering he could beat his student Lương even after Lương is fully trained this is my theory
Prime Bruce Lee knew Wing Chun and a LOT of other styles, so he pretty much knew the possible moves he was gonna be up against and he had a bigger arsenal of moves to counter it, ofc Bruce lost fights in his life he wasnt born a master, but Prime Bruce Lee? he wasnt a master of only wing chun lol he was a master of almost everything he trained.
Speed IS power. The very philosophy of JKD admits that it is useless. In fact, the entire philosophy of JKD, including his "Be like water" ideology is a direct ripoff of Musashi's "Book of Five Rings" written in 1690. Here are some examples: "Do nothing that is of no use". If you wish to control others you must first control yourself From one thing, know ten thousand things In battle, if you you make your opponent flinch, you have already won. It is difficult to understand the universe if you only study one planet To know ten thousand things, know one well The true science of martial arts means practicing them in such a way that they will be useful at any time, and to teach them in such a way that they will be useful in all things. Become acquainted with every art. Guard. It is in this sense that I recommend the guard without a guard. Whatever the situation is, you hold the sword so that you can slash your opponent. And, of course: As the spirit becomes like water and adapts to it's container, so you must adapt to your opponent... Do not be tense. See what I mean?
it is silly, because it can also be said that jeet kune do and jun fan gong fu(bruce lee wushu) would not exist if bruce lee did not study karate, judo, kali, eskrima, hapkido, boxing, fencing, gymnastics, etc, even tai chi which was his first sport. The true philosophy of jeet kune do is that styles do not matter, but use the most direct technique and be fast and efficient.
wing chun = only wing chun. jun fan gongfu (jeet kune do) = wing chun + boxing, kali, eskrima, fencing, juijitsu, judo, gimnastic, hapkido, karate, and freedom style of bruce lee. so.... Jun Fan Gong Fu is better XD. Bue the real: bruce lee did not finish teaching jun fan gong fu or jeet kune do philosophy. For that reason any other martial art with a complete teaching has an advantage. The closest to completing Bruce Lee's apprenticeship was Dan Inosanto. But either way you can learn the basics of jun fan gong fu and complete the learning with other styles or follow the same path as Bruce Lee. Remember one fundamental thing, Bruce Lee's martial art is Jun Fan Gong Fu, but his philosophy is style without styles, jeet kune do, comparing Jet Kune Do with Wing Chun is to contradict Bruce Lee's teaching that says no styles matter, what matters is non-style. what Bruce Lee was trying to tell us is to learn everything as soon as it is available to us and not to limit ourselves, to be open-minded and not make absurd comparisons like these. Bruce Lee not only practiced martial arts, he also danced cha cha cha and did sports, he was an amazing person because everything he learned took him to the extreme, and he trained hard to be the best, not to compete against styles, but to compete against persons.
Dude you got that wrong wing Chun is a style of a snake and a Crane and Jeet June do. Is knowing when your opponent going strike and where he is going to strike next. And you have to think before make his next move because over the years Bruce has train some good celebrity's over the years like Steve McQueen, and many other star before he passed away like it's not all about speed and strength it's all about when an opponent makes his next strike the way of the accepting fist it's what Bruce Lee call his style. Plus he not full Chinese he is half Cantonese and Chinese because the man a legend.
bruce said it himsel, a man can only do so much with two hands and two feet,know this,jeet kune do is the door to his art,follow him he wasn't wrong,and to those who said he never fought,get real,why do you think he left china
Dude get real yourself! Bruce never fought in contests and ring against other real fighters! Thats what we mean. Not just a fight with gangs etc. Smh. Do your homework about Bruce tho. The guy has zero records zero fight expierence in a ring and against another fighter. Thats a f fact tho. You can easily look it up. So just stop and get real. Smh.
@@dvb8637 get real here's something for you to get real about,the mma and ufc is nothing more than guys fighting for purses and to make ass clowns rich,bruce lee could whip anyone in the world in 1 minute,please dont respond back i've heard all of this nonsense i care to,fighting for your life trumps any ring action,learn the facts
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nice vid man
more wing chun
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I started boxing in my teens. Then, I studied Jun Fan Gung FU/JKD for about 6 years. I thought the art was great for basic self-defense and general awareness. But once I started to study Wing Chun, there was a stark difference in my growth, control, and power. JKD appeared to be more "athletic," but the things I've been able to accomplish with understanding the forms, proper stance, and relaxation found in Wing Chun, have been incredible.
100% JKD is pretty nice but when you learn the tools from the perspective of WC, it takes it to a whole new level. Having the core understanding of WC but the flexibility of JKD is the premium fighter imo.
Jeet kune do is better than wing chun
@@OGWishborn Pretty sure you just described how a Bruce Lee is made :)
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Wing Chun is a pretty decent art for close combat fighting. JKD was developed to be utilized at all ranges and for ground fighting as well. So, JKD is a more well rounded art.
😂 so wrong
@@PooleAcademyofWingChun Why?
@@Quantum3695 if Bruce lee completed the system he would have realised that wing chun has it all
@@PooleAcademyofWingChun Wing chun has nothing that can be truly utilized.It's been done and done again where wing chun ''fighters'' get beat up like school kids.China got so embaresed that they created Sanda (combining boxing,karate kicks and chineese wrestling).In short i don't care how sticky are your hands, if you go up against a heavyweight who punches like a train you are better of standing in front of actual one.
@@Raziel132 all these wing chun fighters who don’t know real wing chun
Now I'm becoming even more interested in learning both those arts
YOU WILL BE THE REST OF YOUR LIFE LEARNING JEET KUNE DO,AND YOU DON'T LEARN IT LIKE YOU WOULD A STYLE.REMEMBER IT CAN BE TAUGHT BUT IT CAN'T BE STANDARDIZED,LIKE A STYLE,A QUOTE FROM SIFU DANNY INNOSONTO.
JKD applies the more efficient and applicable aspects of Wing Chun along with the aspects of other arts.
A caveat is to be careful of getting a false sense of security when seeking to practice Wing Chun. The movies have done a disservice to Wing Chun by sensationalizing the art as a fantasy-like fighting style. The reality is much different. But it doesn't hurt to learn the art and to be realistic about the outcome of applying it in certain situations.
@@craigbosko2229 I understand that and I'm fine with that and I want to experience it for myself
I've always been interested in both, & Studied Wing-Chun.
They are both liberating 👊🙏
If Bruce never started in Wing Chun he would have never evolved into.his own system
I find both styles are great and conceptional
JEET KUNE DO IS NOT A STYLE, IT'S A WAY OF LIFE.YOU DON'T LEARN IT LIKE YOU WOULD A STYLE, IT'S ALWAYS EVALVING,IT CAN BE TAUGHT BUT IT CAN'T BE STANDARDIZED LIKE A STYLE.FOR ME,I LOOK AT STYLES AS A REFRENCE POINT, SOMETHING TO WORK OFF OF BUT THERE NOT THE GOSPLE TRUTH,THEY WEREN'T WRITTEN INTO LAW. I STARTED OFF IN THE VERY BEGINNING,MOO DUK KWON,TAE KWON DO,THAT WAS MY REFRENCE POINT.MADE IT TO GREEN BELT AND TOOK UP BOXING LESSONS AND FOUGHT GOLDEN GLOVES AND THEN COMBINED THE 2 TOGETHER AND FOUGHT PROFESSIONAL KICKBOXING.BUT MY POINT IS I HAD A REFRENCE POINT TO WORK FROM AND IT WORKED.BRUCE LEE HAD ONE ALSO,IT WAS CALLED WING CHUN.
@@craigbosko2229 lmao the caps tho 😂
@@craigbosko2229 Friend told me recently a great intro into the arts is Tae Kwon Do due to the great stretching routine it offers. Helps build faster flexibility than most arts & boy was he right. Thank you for your words.
I think he probably would have arrived at the same conclusion he did, which basically was about how regardless of which martial art, the common factor is the human body, arms and legs will work the same way because its made that way. It would probably just look a little different if he started in Muay Thai or Karate, but the philosophy would have been the same.
Got to start somewhere so get there and begin👊🙏
Jeet Kune do is very different than Wing Chun. Although Bruce started in Wing Chun and other Kung Fu systems and had experience in boxing etc he pretty much moved away from most of the trapping before his death. Trapping and other things like locking etc was to be thought of as either incidental or accidental, the main purpose is always to be more simple and direct and hit the person's intention before he can react, everything else was just supplementary. Jeet Kune do is a principal based art, simple direct, non-classical, no limitation as limitation and encompasses all ranges of combat having no way as way, pretty much being a jack of all trades with idea of using the fundamental principles like the five ways of attack, which isn't in just one particular system but just encompasses the art of fighting. Bruce got rid of the forms and was looking for aliveness or realness sparring etc in training.
@Adam A. I don't disagree with you. I still teach it as well but like I was saying it's more incidental or accidental. I believe it has its place and it should be trained the sensitivity and everything that goes with it is important for many things like locking, clinch etc. I still do a lot of energy drills and trapping drills but we always make sure that we use resistance training or sparring /aliveness so people learn how to use it in a more realistic setting.
@Adam A. Actually I agree with you there's no disagreement. I do the same stuff.
you are right, it must also be clarified that Bruce Lee defined jeet kune do as a simplification of his fighting system because many of his disciples did not progress by learning Jun Fan Gong Fu. It could be said that Bruce Lee practiced dozens of martial arts, but he only taught Jeet Kune Do, which was a simple practical summary to transmit to his students. And that he also passed away before finishing teaching. Now there are many crazy people who believe that for having learned jeet kune do in a gym they are like Bruce Lee hahaha. Jeet Kune Do also is a Bruce´s philosophy based on taoism concepts
Something that is not mentioned is that unlike Jeet Kun Do, Wing Qun was designed to CONSERVE and quickly rebuild one's energy so that if necessary, one can endure through as many opponents as necessary, and as many at the same time as necessary. As the number of opponents rises, Jeet Kun Do's probability of survival drops. Also, while it sounds nice and flexible on paper, trying to develop your own style will always leave you with blind spots. Wing Qun has those knowledge gaps filled with a far deeper and more refined lineage, when adhered to. Food for thought.
What a load of bullshit. I have no idea where you get your information from. JKD is designed to end the fight quickly, by hitting decisive, vulnerable targets for maximum damage.
There's a Dan Inosanto video in which he states that Jeet Kun Do is Wing Chun at a distance or Chi Sau at a distance. He also goes onto say that without Wing Chun there is no Jeet Kun Do.
DONT KNOW IF IT'S FAIR TO COMPARE THE 2 LIKE BRUCE SAID
*"IF IT HELPS YOU IN A FIGHT U SHOULD LEARN TO USE IT DOSENT MATTER WHERE IT COMES FROM".*
When you look at Mike Tyson's approach to his opponent, I can't see anyone standing in front of him for long when he was at his peak. Most martial artist are not built to take a full force Tyson punch, let alone a trained professional boxer. I also don't see either organized sport being able to handle an equally trained street fighter where there are no limits to his toolbox.
truth is if shit hits the fan it dont matter. most street fights are so much of a blur, and stabbings happen so fast even bruce wouldn't stop it
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Studying JKD and WC since the 70's and practicing it most of my adult life I agree with some of what you said. However, it is ESSENTIAL to realize that a critical point of JKD is that you do NOT have to sacrifice power for speed or vice versa. This makes sense since the energy transferred is a squared function of the speed (e.g. 1/2 mv^2), and the damaging third order differential of velocity and beyond ("jerk" and "snap" "crackle" and "pop") are higher order functions of the acceleration of the acceleration and beyond. The transfer of that velocity based power is all about aligning the body's mass behind it, and doing so fluidly and as quickly as possible. Again, speed/velocity is the key variable. The more quickly and completely you can relax the opposing muscle groups for the benefit of speed and resulting power transfer, the more speed and resultant power you can transfer. While this is fundamental/basic stuff, I have seen plenty of American sensei's completely miss this, and assert that speed and power are inversely related. That is simply wrong.
Ahahahahahahahahaha OMG...really ....wooow this show's just how blinded people got from shitty choreographed 70-80 karate movies...I won't judge you...what does science have to do with knocking someone out????
@@sebastianlakatosz1594 sorry mate, you'll find a lot of knockout techniques are down to the science of physiology and the bodies system of nerves, arteries and acupuncture meridians along which the chakras, ganglion and pressure points are aligned, from the souls of the feet to the roots of the teeth. Obviously some knock-outs are just mechanical shock; temple, jaw, windpipe etc, and then bone breaks and joint dislocation but don't discount a neck chop or solar plexus strike to incapacitate an opponent.
@@clivewells7090 that's why they never join UFC because that shit don't work unless it's a demonstration...so yeah watch your movie's and dream on Buddy
@@sebastianlakatosz1594 You asked what science has with getting knocked out, so, sorry to inform you. And remember that your favourite entertainment is rife with foul moves and disallowed holds because they are destructive of essential structures and pathways. Karate is adapted from kung fu and then adapted to competition. Only the family and friends were taught the truly destructive military uses of these moves, holds and strikes. How many lethal moves are practiced in MMA clubs...?
Useful only as demonstration...who did Bruce Lee beat in his life????a stunt man on the set of enter dragon?..bro wake up 🤣 until we see a kungfu or karate or what ever bullshido guy enter UFC and becoming a world champion...until then they should stick to their point fighting ..I don't really believe in a real fight someone would do a kata or number 365 dragon slaps in their opponents face 😂
hm Wing Chun isn't Characterized by blocks at all, because Wing Chun doesn't use a single block at all. Wing Chun use ONLY counterattacks instead of blocks. I learn Wing Chun for 7 years and i honestly never heard that any Wing Chun user, is using "blocks". The difference between blocks and wing chun counterattacks is simple. Blocks are made to stop an attack by blocking it with a Bodypart, against a Bodypart. like "| = block" "< = attack" "|
Every martial art has something to offer...ive learned techniques from both of these systems and apply them in my own mma style.
that is because Brucee Lee was a mix martial art sportman. He doesnt matter the styles, he just matter his oponents and the techniques, variety of techniques
It's not the style. It's the person using it
Yep fear not the man who knows a thousand styles but the man that practises a specific punch and kick a thousand times. Bruce Lee
@@shel0016 won't work every single time tho lmao
@@notevenalex nothing does but practise your certain set of skills and build strengt and speed and you will be a nightmare for most bullies that try to lay hands on you. 💪⚡
If you have watched this channel for any lenghth of time you will realise it just shows loads of clips from films without actually seeing it sed
Thats all good, but if you do research on street fights where practitionners have to fight in sudden confrontation, they often loose the ability the remember their fighting style and form and lose to brawlers. But its a beautiful artform and one should always seek a peaceful resolution.
I trained traditional martial arts for many years achieving multiple black belts and instructorships in such arts as, Taekwondo, Judo, Combat Sambo, Kickboxing, Shaolin kung Fu, Muay Thai Boxing, Kali, but when I really started to understand JKD every time I sparred with fellow instructors from different arts I wiped the floor with them.
I don't want to sound arrogant in that statement, simply knowing JKD properly makes all the difference. You know how to adapt, counter, and how to intercept correctly. You learn about such things as, timing, half-beat attacks, drawing, faking, feinting, gaining a beat of time, non-telegraphic technique, directness, strategy, cutting the man in half, triple blows, breaking rhythm, re-zoning, stealing a step, cutting in to the tool, etc, etc.
Sorry folks but Wing Chun doesn't teach you that. However, like anything, you need a very good instructor to teach you how to do it right with all the right content matter that Sijo Lee developed prior to his untimely death.
Master Leung Bik instructed Ip Man and told him that although the core principles of Wing Chun are speed and leg support they do not prohibit changes. A principle Master Lee obviously took to heart when created Jeet Kune Do. I believe Jeet Kune Do is a natural progression of Wing Chun. While some Wing Chun purists may not approve of what Master Lee did.. I believe Jeet Kune Do honors its Wing Chun roots and I believe Master Ip Man would have approved of the style.
Don't punch the guy, the guy you really want to hit is behind him. -Johny Lawrence
If anyone wants more on the subject; I studied Asian Culture in College (four years) and studied Shaolin Kung Fu for 29 years, I studied Jeet Kune Do starting in 1973. A tragic year for me. There is a lot of BULLSHIT about the subject, I hope my research can help. I am also a research scientist from CU Medical Center.
bigest masters of wu shu wil always say : non technique is beter, only u can be beter than others
My only issue with Wing Chun is the same issue I have with TKD; almost all TCMA guys have a Wing Chun background, much like American Martial Artists almost all have some experience with TKD.
The problem is the carry-over of terminology to other styles.
Instead of digging to find our style-specific terminology when an "unnamed" technique shows up, we just fall back to things like, "Oh, it's just a slight variation of Bong Sau", or "It's basically a palm block like Pak Sau", and move on.
They might seem like insignificant knowledge-gaps, but the name of a technique can often give insight into how it's meant to be applied. It also helps certain types of learners to be able to Categorize, Organize, and Retain, when it's a style-specific name.
It is weird that people learning Jet kune do ended up impersonating Bruce Lee 🤭
You lack understanding of economic principles that make JKD look the way it does.
Inch punch came from Wing Chun. Wing Chun has many exercises which build both power and speed. My punches and kicks are effective against people who were a lot larger than myself. Bruce Lee never finished Wing Chun or any other art. However, he worked hard and perfected the basics. Bruce Lee was not allowed to teach Wing Chun to foreigners so when he started teaching Wing Chun, he renamed his art and added other styles to fill in his gaps of knowledge.
That was a nice comparison. Thank you
Key phrase of this video "mind set".
Wing Chun (traditional) is a combat art, jkd is a weak art, Wing Chun has very powerful, Wing chun is central line fighting , Bruce Lee 1" punch was developed by Wing Chun
You can’t compare it like that. As Bruce Lee said, everyone needs to find his own way. And therefore, Jeet Kune Do is more like a style. In Ving Tsun, it’s quite similar. Look at the ways different students of Ip Man fought and you’ll see, there are a dozen of differents. I learned Ving Tsun from a lineage of Wong Shun Leung, but I practiced Leung Ting Wing Tsun before. Totally different, actually Leung Ting is less Ving Tsun and more…Eskrima.
But that’s the point…which style do you compare? This is too generalized.
Nice to watch, but not more than a bit of entertainment
I agree with and I appreciate the phases of your “non-comparison” observation. It appears that Jeet Kune Do would be better defined (better yet, observed) as a self (essence)-exploratory journey versus a “style (distinct manner)” that the practitioner either simply understands and appreciates, himself/herself - or doesn’t.
Both are good
JKD has its roots in Wing Chun, as it incorporates its techniques such as the punches, simultaneous attack and defense, and the centerline theory.
With all martial arts, it is good, depending on how you use it and adapt to your aponent. If you can control your hits and how hard and soft you can hit with that ultimate speed. You can hit on a soft note with the 1st hit, then automatically hit hard on the second hit with a 2 hit combo. You can have that style on showing a person to hit to defend your opponent on teaching..
"By not restrictg yourself to an art or style you could become a much more efficient fighter"
Yeah, that's called Free style.
7:00 - Jeet Kune Do
Punch Six Inches inside your opponent’s body. Punch repeatedly and unrelentingly from a very short distance. Do not clench your hand until the moment of impact. If it feels good you are doing it right.
I think Jeet Kune Do wins simply because of one particular principle. Pressure testing. Sparring and live combat drills are essential for any fighter to even remotely have a chance at survival and Bruce Lee couldn't stress this enough. After all how can you know what to do in a fight when you've never been in one before? Wing Chun purists have faltered time and time again to MMA fighters who have no restrictions on their style whatsoever. Even Bruce Lee himself lost a fight when he only knew Wing Chun. It wasn't until he won a boxing championship in Hong Kong where he finally began to develop himself as a true fighter.
Dude that was a high school contest. Smh. Not against a hongkong champion. Smh.
Muai thai/boxing plus freestyle wrestling are the best for body2body fight and for self defence.
EXCELLENT -nothing else to be said
It boils down to the intensity of the practitioner in any of the styles , I'd say
great Video thx
Legendary Wing Chun GRANDMASTER IP ****
Uh okay
@@notevenalexit actually does matter, because very few people get to Grandmaster in anything
There are so many different JKD styles out there, every student of Bruce Lee developed another way of JKD. The original style of the early Bruce Lee called "Jun Fan Do" is a totally different style from the later JKD of Bruce. But that's natural for JKD, because Bruce was changing, BTW it is the purpose and goal in JKD to continually changing and adding, to be different and to be individual. For example my style of JKD is from a Korean master GM Mikhail Kim and is very different from Bruce Lee's JKD, only the main principles are more or less the same. BTW there are also countless Wing Chun styles inside classical Wing Chun according to GMM Leung Ting's "Roots of Wing Chun" book. So comparison of JKD and Wing Chun is really difficult to master. Just to compare the core concepts and main strategies of the main styles of late Bruce Lee's JKD and the very classical Ving Tsun of Wong Shun Leung or WT from Leung Ting is not enough imo. The principles and core concepts of classical Wing Chun and JKD may seem very different at the first glance, but on the other hand there are also some similarities. So which style is better? I trained both styles over 15 years, first different styles of Wing Chun and then JKD; so to fully master JKD I suggest to start with Wing Chun (to a certain level) and go over to JKD. It is like building a lego city, you can build it up further and further and yes, it's compatible. Please don't try to imitate somebody including Bruce, be yourself, that's the goal of JKD. Thx for this awesome video guys, please more of it.
To the question why Wing Chun is not used in UFC: In the end, this style offers only a few ways to win: stab into the eye, crash in the windpipe and strike the chin with the ellbow. Maybe add a knee strike to the crotch. Because you are so close to the enemy, you lack the distance (and power) to shoot off a winning kick or a strike with the fist that would be OK with UFC rules. Of course, the short distance also increases the risk of being grappled and thrown - with the MMA opponent surely winning on the ground.
So it's for women...
I have seen wing chun students. They may be fast but they lack power.
It’s the other way round. I’m a jeet kune do and wing chun martial artist. I would say that jeet kune do is way faster and more powerful, more flexible. Wing chun is pretty fast and pretty powerful, it’s just limited with striking, footwork, grappling, kicks etc. Ultimately, the individual is the most important style no matter the style learnt. But IMO, jeet kune do is way better
Wow in min 1:05 is our Sifu in Germany 😍👍🏽💪🏽.!!
styles only matter so much its usually the strength of the fighter and how good they are more than wing chun vs jeetkun do but i suppose its fun to compare
jeet kune do isnt a style
thats very disrespectful calling jeet kune do a style. just to put that out there
@@lil.colossus2706 😆
Another great video thanks 💖😁
Make a video about Chun Kuk Do (Chuck Norris) vs Jeet Kune Do (Bruce Lee)
The one thing all good fighters have in common, is speed. So power comes from speed.
thanks
I feel like Wing Chun practitioners & Jeet Kune Do practitioners need to work on their Ground Fighting game like cross train in Submission Wrestling. But if Jeet Kune Do practitioners could retrace Catch Wrestling then they might have a good advantage in their ground fighting but i think Submission Wrestling surpass Catch Wrestling but its my opinion. You should do a video of Combat Sambo vs. Jeet Kune Do.
I'm sure we all know this but not only did he have to slow down his moves to be caught on camera but they actually slowed down the camera rate per frame so we could see it on camera and still then some of it you couldn't see well it's greased lightning all sudden John travolt just pops up and starts singing Grease lightning LOL.
Se fossi piu giovane imparerei secondo me per essere completo il kung fu : per la tecnica - la boxe : potenza dei colpi - il judo: prese e bloccaggi oppure MMA o la kick boxe ?? VOi quale dite la piu' completa ??
the one inch punch, isn't a bruce lee invention... but wing chun's... in fact all strikes in wing chun strive to be one inch strikes... which is pretty much using just your striking limbs to do 2 things, get your strike as close to your target as possible and get your limbs' structure set up to be able to deliver the full power of your body that the specific strike can muster... doing this will prevent your attacks from being powerful at their beginning, which allows you to recover quickly if your strike is blocked, parried, dodged or jammed early on, and keep your endurance up, after all moving an arm or a leg back into a defensive position on a failed attack is easier than moving your entire body. Then, if both conditions are met (close enough to target, structure in place), using the rest of your body to generate power for the attack.
Wrong! Wing Chun does have kicks. Because you haven't see it doesn't mean it isn't there. Neither system is more powerful. It is the person who develops power through training. JKD is only a modified version of Wing Chun.
I thought the video was going to show a real “brutal” fight among two guys…
You didn't show any JKD ground work! The classes at KSK martial arts includes 25% BBJ and Submission Wrestling into it's training.
From what I saw there wasn't really much of stepping off the centerline in the video, so you leave your head exposed to attacks including if you're using both hands at once, you're also assuming your opponent is only throwing straight punches, martial arts history lesson, a lot of martial arts were designed to only take on the same style. In real life, if the average person tries to swat punches away what's going to end up most likely happening is you're going to get speared or tackled to the ground, then you're going to get ground and pounded or punched to a knockout. Royce Gracie took the world by storm because he incorporated something new just like Muay Thai and their devastating lower kicks. Also, they are trained to guard the side of their head with one hand as the other hand is giving the blow. Muay Thai Wins! I'm not at all stating both Wing Chun and Jeet Kune Do are useless but as for practical against a fully resisting opponent who has steroid aggression and is about to beat your face in and or is about to stab you to death I just don't see either one being superior between the two just my opinion though.
There are a couple of inaccuracies in this video
Lot of inaccuracies
More than a couple
So why none of these are used in UFC? It's seems like someone who is this versed in the art should neutralize opponents in seconds.
just combine stuff if you can, it's like potion brewing in minecraft and making two types of cakes in one, if you can't take it, you're gone, if you managed to successfully combine stuff, congratulations a new style.
You can't compare two which one derived from the other. For they are one in the same.
This is like the new generation vs the old
If Bruce Lee and IP Man sparred today. IP Man would destroy Bruce Lee for the simple fact that he was the Grand Master Chinese Gung FU organization at the time of Bruce's rising in Hollywood and around the world.
This system in this day & age has been defeated by everyone
Bruce Lee didn't use any Wing Chun, because he would always lose .... The style you see in her is the original Chinese boxing and nothing else.
WHICH style or technique WORKS BEST ON THE STREETS IS KARATE OR WING CHUN OR JEET KUNE DO THE ANSWER IS NONE OF THE ABOVE BECAUSE IT'S THE PERSON that wills it ISKCON LIKE I like the man makes the suit not the suit that makes the man get it GOOD 👊
People like you don’t help
Not true.. jeet kune do is most effective on the street.
Very true but still it is the person that makes the style not the style that makes the person you get it good 👊
@@alifuller1658 yes most of it is person but style is also important. I believe that the individual them self is what makes them stand out from others but You still can’t be the best fighter with a not so good martial art. That’s why I believe a good martial art and artist is the best option
@@49bullet64 can't agree with that since there like thousands of karate styles as well
Wing chun is a defensive based art. Ip Man blocked kicks and punches using kicks.
Jeet Kun Do added an offensive aspect to the defensive art.
Jeet Kun Do is Wing Chun. IP Man knew this.Bruce knew this..for Kung Fu learning is Never stagnant. And if your Base learning is Wing Chun, u are a Wing Chun practitioner, adding your personal style to your base art.....but there are politics in everything. Bruce swayed away from "wing chun" because politically amoung the chinese he had to.Ip man also politically asked bruce to leave his dojo, but sent him to train with his #1 desciple.....look at images of Bruce hand to hand with IP man....the joy and smile on ip mans face is pure love. He knew his Wing Chun would live on thru Lee.
I'd disagree on the defensive based art point. The main objective in Wing Chun is to hit, all the other concepts are to enable you to do this, ideally without being hit yourself.
how can i enjoy the videooo??? the thumbnail is fighting 1 vs 1 from each other MA...sad click bait is the only u can do?
I REALLY LIKE JEET KUNE DO s*** I really want to learn that damn Bruce Lee 👊
Both arts are great
Be formless like water comes from chinese philosophy which was taught to Bruce by Ip Man. It is part of the wing chun training philosophy that Bruce borrowed for jkd.
Mentioned- kicks are the strongest hits.... I have blocked and used multiple people's kicks against the person using it. It take focus and training though.
sacrifice speed for power? or power for speed? thats not the reality. a relaxed body creates more speed, your ability to manipulate chi is what gives you power. its not a trade-off, they hold hands
also i would stop comparing other martial arts to others there is no superior art except the artist
Martial art means expressing ones self honestly so why is it everyone that learns JKD seems to be a carbon copy of Bruce Lee thats not what bruce created it for
Well..... I guess you're right..... But it is their choice. Having a choice is what makes Jeet Kune Do so special.
People modeling themselves to Bruce Lee is not such a bad thing.
Yes, but wing chun is about expressing ones self in combat, emotion, skill, and most of all honor.
Well there's two sections in jkd one teaches whatever Bruce did like his ideas etc while the other teaches exactly what Bruce did
As it is with any student with their master of any craft. The starting point is where the master is / how the master does / teaches it.
In Jeet Kun Do defense , when an opponent steps forward, the first short kick to the forward knee of the attacker, of the JKD exponent is a Wing Chun kick. It is the one that is always used first in close quarters fighting, and therefore it is not exclusively part of JKD practice, but derived from WC. No-one is going to stand around waiting to be kicked by one of those huge JKD sidekicks, and once in the air they aren't changing direction. The fighter trying this is going to be caught out with a fast WC defensive counter measure. Wing Chun is always a defense attack move together, not one or the other. In that stupid scene in the roman Colosseum where Chuck Norris is standing there being kicked three times without using any defense to the same part of his body, which is complete rubbish. It would never have happened.
Again most people misinterpret wing chun they think because your are hitting so fast you are sacrificing power and that is not the case it’s not built off of just speed and actually bruce got hos one inch punch from wing chun not jeet June do as the one inch punch shows you the power in the smallest movement of wing chun and he knew about the one inch punch before he switched
Ok why is that guy posing as me I’m the only Bruce Lee * one shots the Bruce Lee knock-off with the six inch punch sending him flying off screen * WWOOTAAAH!
Jeet kune do is not a martial art so you can not compare it to martial art. JKD is a way of thinking. Jun fan jeet kune do is his style of kung fu, based on wing chun.
In fact Jeet Kune Do is a modern taoist philosophy based on non style fight, freedom style, the taoist philosophy of Bruce Lee to be equal like water and fast like lighting. The wushu of Bruce Lee is Jun Fan Gong Fu, and based a many more martial arts than wing chun, (judo, karate, boxing, jiu jitsu, atletism, gimnastic, hapkido, kali, eskrima, etc, etc...) wing chun was just the second martial art who Bruce Lee learned and he did not complete the learning of wing chun system.
Speed and power cant be together? My friend said theres a technique where these two can be achieved together
You should just review street fighter, ryu vs sagat
It’s a mind set like spent a and leave mags
Wing chun is jeet kune do's father.
Jeet kune do is the son of wing chun, karate, tai chi, judo, jujutsu, boxing and of course. Wrestling and cha cha dancing
Don't forget fencing and savate!
I just want to throw some fact into this one of Ip Man students name Hoàng Thuần Lương(VietNamese styles of his name) he beat Bruce Lee by using Wint Chun and he is a skilled Boxer he only retired because he accidentally kill a eye of his training opponents soo if Ip Man vs Bruce Lee while both as they prime Ip Man would win considering he could beat his student Lương even after Lương is fully trained this is my theory
Prime Bruce Lee knew Wing Chun and a LOT of other styles, so he pretty much knew the possible moves he was gonna be up against and he had a bigger arsenal of moves to counter it, ofc Bruce lost fights in his life he wasnt born a master, but Prime Bruce Lee? he wasnt a master of only wing chun lol he was a master of almost everything he trained.
Speed IS power. The very philosophy of JKD admits that it is useless. In fact, the entire philosophy of JKD, including his "Be like water" ideology is a direct ripoff of Musashi's "Book of Five Rings" written in 1690.
Here are some examples:
"Do nothing that is of no use".
If you wish to control others you must first control yourself
From one thing, know ten thousand things
In battle, if you you make your opponent flinch, you have already won.
It is difficult to understand the universe if you only study one planet
To know ten thousand things, know one well
The true science of martial arts means practicing them in such a way that they will be useful at any time, and to teach them in such a way that they will be useful in all things.
Become acquainted with every art.
Guard. It is in this sense that I recommend the guard without a guard. Whatever the situation is, you hold the sword so that you can slash your opponent.
And, of course: As the spirit becomes like water and adapts to it's container, so you must adapt to your opponent... Do not be tense.
See what I mean?
Street fight doesnt always come with a straight punch.. its always hook punches and low kicks
Anyone noticed that? Bruce Lee hardly blocks punches. He just hits first.
U wrong he blocks and hits at the same time
I'm here because of the Webtoon "Lookism"
Wing Chun and Jeet Kune Do, deadliest of enemies. Put slaves under my power.
Technically there will be no Jeet kune do without Bruce Lee's learning of Wing Chun so you do the rest of the thinking
Is that a fact? Doubt it
There still would actually he just used wing chun as a base ,he could've used karate as a base as well it would still be jkd lol
it is silly, because it can also be said that jeet kune do and jun fan gong fu(bruce lee wushu) would not exist if bruce lee did not study karate, judo, kali, eskrima, hapkido, boxing, fencing, gymnastics, etc, even tai chi which was his first sport. The true philosophy of jeet kune do is that styles do not matter, but use the most direct technique and be fast and efficient.
I knew some of these fightter
jeet kune do was never meant to be a martial art. It was a proto form of MMA.
Jeet kune do 👊
wing chun = only wing chun.
jun fan gongfu (jeet kune do) = wing chun + boxing, kali, eskrima, fencing, juijitsu, judo, gimnastic, hapkido, karate, and freedom style of bruce lee.
so.... Jun Fan Gong Fu is better XD.
Bue the real: bruce lee did not finish teaching jun fan gong fu or jeet kune do philosophy. For that reason any other martial art with a complete teaching has an advantage. The closest to completing Bruce Lee's apprenticeship was Dan Inosanto. But either way you can learn the basics of jun fan gong fu and complete the learning with other styles or follow the same path as Bruce Lee.
Remember one fundamental thing, Bruce Lee's martial art is Jun Fan Gong Fu, but his philosophy is style without styles, jeet kune do, comparing Jet Kune Do with Wing Chun is to contradict Bruce Lee's teaching that says no styles matter, what matters is non-style.
what Bruce Lee was trying to tell us is to learn everything as soon as it is available to us and not to limit ourselves, to be open-minded and not make absurd comparisons like these. Bruce Lee not only practiced martial arts, he also danced cha cha cha and did sports, he was an amazing person because everything he learned took him to the extreme, and he trained hard to be the best, not to compete against styles, but to compete against persons.
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It's video lol
you do know bruce lee did wing chun and respected it he added it to jeet kon do so it is not fair
Dude you got that wrong wing Chun is a style of a snake and a Crane and Jeet June do. Is knowing when your opponent going strike and where he is going to strike next. And you have to think before make his next move because over the years Bruce has train some good celebrity's over the years like Steve McQueen, and many other star before he passed away like it's not all about speed and strength it's all about when an opponent makes his next strike the way of the accepting fist it's what Bruce Lee call his style. Plus he not full Chinese he is half Cantonese and Chinese because the man a legend.
bruce said it himsel, a man can only do so much with two hands and two feet,know this,jeet kune do is the door to his art,follow him he wasn't wrong,and to those who said he never fought,get real,why do you think he left china
Dude get real yourself! Bruce never fought in contests and ring against other real fighters! Thats what we mean. Not just a fight with gangs etc. Smh. Do your homework about Bruce tho. The guy has zero records zero fight expierence in a ring and against another fighter. Thats a f fact tho. You can easily look it up. So just stop and get real. Smh.
@@dvb8637 get real here's something for you to get real about,the mma and ufc is nothing more than guys fighting for purses and to make ass clowns rich,bruce lee could whip anyone in the world in 1 minute,please dont respond back i've heard all of this nonsense i care to,fighting for your life trumps any ring action,learn the facts