I went with a company that uses the one app fertilizer I had some hesitation but I was also curious to see how it works it was applied early March so we will see how it goes!
for EVs, they will never be the same as petrol vehicles...so the technology really isn't at fault "now", it is how people "think" they use and fuel a car and if they can change or an EV would suit them our not ....back in 2015 my wife needed a new cheap car for in-town use(I have a big diesel that will go 600miles on a 26gal tank altho my butt won't last that long, has 7 seats, and tows our 6000+lbs boat, however takes a lot to fuel and use) and she found a 2016 Nissan Leaf she thought was 'cute' to replace her Audi convertible - we had no idea what we were getting into(and all I could think was to "wait longer" for better EVs to be available in our area) and now after 7years of use with that 'primitive' EV we still love it; as it is just so easy and inexpensive to use and maintain(ridiculously! nearly "free" in costs, time, and of problems) as every day it leaves the house with a 'full tank' only charging at home so no extra stops at some random sketchy gas station(where my diesel doesn't have that luxury) ....but it has changed how we think about cars, it almost isn't like a "car" at all; as I'm a 'petrol-head' with lots of boats, motorcycles, and an old Corvette - and all I get to do to the Leaf is check the air in the tires and washer fluid, ugh, but a blast to drive - I'll often ask to use it, instead of any of the other stuff, as even I prefer it for most stuff
Correct. I think most of us here in the comments agree with you. But like I said, We’re different and not the norm. I have a video coming out about this in the coming weekp
Great video. Time is of the essence. For me it's become a passion and one I teach my daughter to care for the lawn and nature. What you put in is what you get out of it
The company I work at used Polyon in some trials last season and had good results, but there are a lot of homeowners that just don't understand the concept controlled released fertilizer
Polygon has some good residual up to that 90-110 day mark. I know a number of companies in Florida and one big one in Tennessee that use it either all season or to get through summer blackouts.
Stay organic and the slow decomposition will feed the soil over the optimal growing times. Polymer coating! Yeah I’d spread that crap around my well any day
Nope not me I like to go out and spray all the Green County products all year long, I just received a few boxes of goodies, Spray and pray my friends👍😁😂🤣
Well, first I got a soil test to see what is needed. But not sure whether to concentrate on low ph 4.20 by adding pellet lime only or combo with fertilizer for cooler weather grass. Last fall added (23) 40 lb bags of pellet lime on 23000 sqft. Spring added 2 bags Lesco Dimension 18-0-4 pre-emergent/plus fertilizer. My lawn looks great overall some clovers & dandelions.
No I would not. I enjoy putting something down really at this point every 2 to 3 weeks. Its also exercise. Now maybe when I get older and I am not moving well or in pain the once a year would be a good option but for now I would not even consider it.
I think the "why not grow a field of native plants, daisies, and wild flowers with golden geese" are the 1% of "Need To's" that hate lawn care so much, they blog about alternatives to it. Lesson to the "Have to's": don't make your children mow your lawn like it's a punishment, or they'll turn into the resentful "Need To's."
@@Lawncologythis is proof that I waited till I watched the whole video before commenting - so much so that i accidentally commented on the wrong video due to UA-cam auto-queue. Related: I'd find a way to dissolve portions of the bag into water weekly and spray it on my lawn. I spray fish poop from my aquarium filter on my lawn just because it's better than a placebo.
If time was the issue: stop social media use. That is all. After that, it is your own time management and scheduling preventing you from working around your home.
Great video. What they can’t account for on those products is the weather. If you get 3” of rain in one week I don’t care who’s fertilizer your applying it’s going to be less effective or just completely washed down the sewer. As for pros VS UA-camrs I like to think of it as Pro’s VS Ho’s. 😂
Be interested to see your next segment on this. My lawn is 15,000sf and time (frequency of apps) is a factor for sure. A one and done might be cool - if it performs the same. Otherwise, I'll stick with the 4 granular apps a year that I do now.
Are we talking about plastic-based polymers or natural components? Plastic-based polymers unfortunately degrade very slowly and can remain in the soil for up to 400 years. Which really shouldn't be the goal! Or what do you think?
I couldn’t see myself ever doing a one fert application. I enjoy being on the lawn and hearing the compliments I get from passerby’s. One application would bore me and drive me crazy.
Retired golf course supt. here ...... I have never made more than 2 fertilizer applications per year on my lawn. Never applied any pre-emergent weed control nor insecticides. Only spot treated broadleaf weeds. I do water my lawn. Always have had the best looking lawn in my neighborhood. Go figure.
I have a buddy who every year puts about 6 bags of milorganite and some lime on a 1k square foot lawn in tje spring and swears that's the answer hahaha never tested soil doesnt apply anything else that's his "secret" application he swears by hahaha
I would say that as it stands right now, tech wise, one app for a DIY'r looking for "green grass for the kids" will do well with these even at the higher cost. But do these products fine tune based on conditions and needs? They never will, unless we would produce and keep in stock possibly 100+ variations with different combinations nutrients at varying rates. Maybe for the minimum contribution of N our programs require, we could throw down a one app product that carries the bulk of the burden, and our additional apps are still fine tuned to what we need on a particular location. But whats the difference if I add the N to those additional apps or throw it one time at a higher cost? Im going to Irish up my coffee now this was too much thought process for a Sunday 😃
I see it every year…it’s very hard to convince the majority of homeowners to invest into lawn care come September. In their mind summer is lawn season and everything spent on lawn stuff past that time is a waste of money. Many of us want instant results and are not programmed for a long term approach.
Interesting, I didn't know these existed. A quick search and I found Simplify, which is a 35-0-6 available locally for under $20 @ 34lbs. I probably won't used it but is nice to know it's an option. I really appreciate these videos which offers a different take than all the others on UA-cam. 👍
to tell the truth: I really have no 'textbook' nor 'set cyclic' idea with what I'm doing and if it really works, I only can see when it doesn't work or the yard looks like it needs something ....every season has been different apps at different times of the year, last year was the first time I tried a mid/late fall fertilizer - as that just seemed right for how the weather, soil, new/old grasses were behaving; needing to store up some power in the roots, and hopefully the grass will be strong and full to survive winter and thrive once(when/if) spring finally starts this year(things have looked great all winter) so hopefully I got lucky in this weird climate .....but I have no clue what this summer will be like, and what the lawn will need to prepare for that(N-Ext "Bio Stem" pack is my best guess for this spring/summer) and then everything will change for what I need in the fall with doing a whole new seeding on a new space of dirt I'm redoing and giving my full attention to; but all the other areas I did last year should be able to calm down some without being pushed too hard, so they can 'settle in' a bit
I’m like you, feed when the need appears. I’ve done every type of “program there is: daily, weekly, monthly, 6 week, 8 weeks… the lawn always looks good 😂
For the last several years I have been using IBDU as my spring application at 1 #. Not alot of extra surge growth and lasts until my end of summer application of Methelyne urea while the soil microbes can process it efficiently. as the temps drop going into fall I switch over to spoon feeding urea then ammonium sulphate near the end of the growing season. I target 3-4# N per year.
For me I enjoy spending time in my yard, I look at it as a challenge to make the turf look it’s best plus studying the effects of those products I’ve chosen to apply? I use mostly organic products and the use of Next products as well to enhance the soil. I do not make any applications in the hottest three months, June July and August but I do try very hard to stay on top of things. Great content as usual JP!!!
I really enjoyed this video with the history and the phyche behind the average person and lawn enthusiast, if you will. For me even if I had one bag I could throw down once a year I would still probably find a reason I needed to be out there, I'm sure there are many others like that too. Looking forward to part two.
Back in my old neighborhood, my neighbor would would make his annual trek to Lowes for a bag of weed and feed at the first sight of a dandelion. That would be his one and only application! He always said that he wished his lawn looked like mine. He just didn’t understand that a single bag of fert would not equal what I was doing!
I make hanging baskets and planters and Osmocote/ Nutricote products are expensive but absolutely needed. I tried a difficult strip of turf with it last year, the bit right by the city sidewalk and it worked very well. I am in the north, north west so hot summers are rare. This must be the place that fert is designed for.
Those ferts have been around a long time and you’re right, the use is for the nursery stock for the most part. I’ve seen it used in turf a few times with decent results.
I wonder how much of the sales in Spring are for the entire season. I try and buy as much as I think I need throughout the year at the beginning of the selling and then end up only purchasing here and there if needed later in the year. The percentage of these types is likely very low though.
@@stevebabiak6997 yeah, I actually take advantage of that for my backyard because there are incentives with it and make the bulk purchase cheaper overall. But, I end up with almost two seasons worth of product so I only need to make the purchase every other year.
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I went with a company that uses the one app fertilizer I had some hesitation but I was also curious to see how it works it was applied early March so we will see how it goes!
Keep us updated
@@Lawncology I will do that
Realistically, similar to electric vehicles, the technology isn't there. On the surface, it sounds fantastic!
for EVs, they will never be the same as petrol vehicles...so the technology really isn't at fault "now", it is how people "think" they use and fuel a car and if they can change or an EV would suit them our not ....back in 2015 my wife needed a new cheap car for in-town use(I have a big diesel that will go 600miles on a 26gal tank altho my butt won't last that long, has 7 seats, and tows our 6000+lbs boat, however takes a lot to fuel and use) and she found a 2016 Nissan Leaf she thought was 'cute' to replace her Audi convertible - we had no idea what we were getting into(and all I could think was to "wait longer" for better EVs to be available in our area) and now after 7years of use with that 'primitive' EV we still love it; as it is just so easy and inexpensive to use and maintain(ridiculously! nearly "free" in costs, time, and of problems) as every day it leaves the house with a 'full tank' only charging at home so no extra stops at some random sketchy gas station(where my diesel doesn't have that luxury) ....but it has changed how we think about cars, it almost isn't like a "car" at all; as I'm a 'petrol-head' with lots of boats, motorcycles, and an old Corvette - and all I get to do to the Leaf is check the air in the tires and washer fluid, ugh, but a blast to drive - I'll often ask to use it, instead of any of the other stuff, as even I prefer it for most stuff
Just a different way to get someone where they need to go I suppose.
I enjoy being outside working on the lawn is therapeutic. I’m guessing I’m not most people.
Correct. I think most of us here in the comments agree with you. But like I said, We’re different and not the norm. I have a video coming out about this in the coming weekp
Great video. Time is of the essence. For me it's become a passion and one I teach my daughter to care for the lawn and nature. What you put in is what you get out of it
Agreed
The company I work at used Polyon in some trials last season and had good results, but there are a lot of homeowners that just don't understand the concept controlled released fertilizer
Polygon has some good residual up to that 90-110 day mark. I know a number of companies in Florida and one big one in Tennessee that use it either all season or to get through summer blackouts.
Ugh, way to leave such a cliffhanger! 😵 “I hate waiting” 😂
It’ll be out soon.
If these ferts lasted as long as they claimed, I would use them exclusively. Right now its just a pipe dream.
I agree. The feedback I’ve gotten is “it works okay”
Stay organic and the slow decomposition will feed the soil over the optimal growing times.
Polymer coating! Yeah I’d spread that crap around my well any day
You’re right and you get multiple year returns as you build it
Nope not me I like to go out and spray all the Green County products all year long, I just received a few boxes of goodies, Spray and pray my friends👍😁😂🤣
Hey John good to see you in the comment section 👍💚🦸
Rock and roll buddy 👍🏼👍🏼
@@Striperman Yeah I'm really strapped on time lately I do watch everything though, Hope you're doing well
Well, first I got a soil test to see what is needed. But not sure whether to concentrate on low ph 4.20 by adding pellet lime only or combo with fertilizer for cooler weather grass. Last fall added (23) 40 lb bags of pellet lime on 23000 sqft. Spring added 2 bags Lesco Dimension 18-0-4 pre-emergent/plus fertilizer. My lawn looks great overall some clovers & dandelions.
No I would not. I enjoy putting something down really at this point every 2 to 3 weeks. Its also exercise. Now maybe when I get older and I am not moving well or in pain the once a year would be a good option but for now I would not even consider it.
There you go
Great video John. You're killing it already this year!
Thanks boss. Can’t wait til the snow melts!
I think the "why not grow a field of native plants, daisies, and wild flowers with golden geese" are the 1% of "Need To's" that hate lawn care so much, they blog about alternatives to it.
Lesson to the "Have to's": don't make your children mow your lawn like it's a punishment, or they'll turn into the resentful "Need To's."
Activists are their own category
@@Lawncologythis is proof that I waited till I watched the whole video before commenting - so much so that i accidentally commented on the wrong video due to UA-cam auto-queue.
Related: I'd find a way to dissolve portions of the bag into water weekly and spray it on my lawn. I spray fish poop from my aquarium filter on my lawn just because it's better than a placebo.
Thumbs up.
Thanks buddy
If time was the issue: stop social media use.
That is all. After that, it is your own time management and scheduling preventing you from working around your home.
Priorities
Great video. What they can’t account for on those products is the weather. If you get 3” of rain in one week I don’t care who’s fertilizer your applying it’s going to be less effective or just completely washed down the sewer. As for pros VS UA-camrs I like to think of it as Pro’s VS Ho’s. 😂
I’m going to use that
This was my concern, too. Just how much is going to be washed away into our water systems?
@@nevinkinzel I’ve often asked that question myself because of how hard they’re pushed in certain climates.
Be interested to see your next segment on this. My lawn is 15,000sf and time (frequency of apps) is a factor for sure. A one and done might be cool - if it performs the same. Otherwise, I'll stick with the 4 granular apps a year that I do now.
Best video I have seen this week.
Thanks man
First
🏆🏆🏆🥇🥇🥇 always first in my book!
Sounds like a great idea! Now we just need about 2 lite rains a week around 1/3-1/2 inch each and all summer we have highs in the mid 60’s. 😂
Fingers crossed!
Utopia for grass …
55% of homeowners in my county don’t use any fertilizer at all.
What part of the country are you in?
@@Lawncology Alachua county, FL
@@ionicatoms ah yes. You have the strictest blackouts in the state
Are we talking about plastic-based polymers or natural components? Plastic-based polymers unfortunately degrade very slowly and can remain in the soil for up to 400 years.
Which really shouldn't be the goal! Or what do you think?
These degrade quickly. Carbon dioxide and water is the remnants
@@Lawncology Sounds good, I'm looking forward to the next part! Greetings from Germany 🤘
@@matthias-just-wants-to-run welcome!!
I couldn’t see myself ever doing a one fert application. I enjoy being on the lawn and hearing the compliments I get from passerby’s. One application would bore me and drive me crazy.
I know it would!
Retired golf course supt. here ...... I have never made more than 2 fertilizer applications per year on my lawn. Never applied any pre-emergent weed control nor insecticides. Only spot treated broadleaf weeds. I do water my lawn. Always have had the best looking lawn in my neighborhood. Go figure.
I’m with you on that. Last year I did 3 liquid apps, no pre, no post. Always is epic. I believe people think more is better when less is great.
I have a buddy who every year puts about 6 bags of milorganite and some lime on a 1k square foot lawn in tje spring and swears that's the answer hahaha never tested soil doesnt apply anything else that's his "secret" application he swears by hahaha
Everyone has their method
@@Lawncology I agree .....I'm not hatin I'm just statin!!
I would say that as it stands right now, tech wise, one app for a DIY'r looking for "green grass for the kids" will do well with these even at the higher cost. But do these products fine tune based on conditions and needs? They never will, unless we would produce and keep in stock possibly 100+ variations with different combinations nutrients at varying rates. Maybe for the minimum contribution of N our programs require, we could throw down a one app product that carries the bulk of the burden, and our additional apps are still fine tuned to what we need on a particular location. But whats the difference if I add the N to those additional apps or throw it one time at a higher cost? Im going to Irish up my coffee now this was too much thought process for a Sunday 😃
Love your thoughts on this
Good concept but needs more improvement from where I’m standing 👍🏻
It’ll find its niche probably more with companies taking care of commercial properties. Less man hours and the need for perfection is low
I see it every year…it’s very hard to convince the majority of homeowners to invest into lawn care come September. In their mind summer is lawn season and everything spent on lawn stuff past that time is a waste of money. Many of us want instant results and are not programmed for a long term approach.
That’s pretty much it isn’t it
I’ve got that Bermuda scalped to the ground now and I’m just itching to get out there. Count me as a one percent- er
Like most of us in the comments
Interesting, I didn't know these existed. A quick search and I found Simplify, which is a 35-0-6 available locally for under $20 @ 34lbs. I probably won't used it but is nice to know it's an option.
I really appreciate these videos which offers a different take than all the others on UA-cam. 👍
Thanks for sharing! And I appreciate the feedback on differentiation as well!
to tell the truth: I really have no 'textbook' nor 'set cyclic' idea with what I'm doing and if it really works, I only can see when it doesn't work or the yard looks like it needs something ....every season has been different apps at different times of the year, last year was the first time I tried a mid/late fall fertilizer - as that just seemed right for how the weather, soil, new/old grasses were behaving; needing to store up some power in the roots, and hopefully the grass will be strong and full to survive winter and thrive once(when/if) spring finally starts this year(things have looked great all winter) so hopefully I got lucky in this weird climate
.....but I have no clue what this summer will be like, and what the lawn will need to prepare for that(N-Ext "Bio Stem" pack is my best guess for this spring/summer) and then everything will change for what I need in the fall with doing a whole new seeding on a new space of dirt I'm redoing and giving my full attention to; but all the other areas I did last year should be able to calm down some without being pushed too hard, so they can 'settle in' a bit
I’m like you, feed when the need appears. I’ve done every type of “program there is: daily, weekly, monthly, 6 week, 8 weeks… the lawn always looks good 😂
One and done is definitely not for me. I enjoy the learning about products, field testing and being outside. Thanks for the videos.
Thank you!
Interesting vid….never knew this existed. It’ll probably catch on with most people, but I enjoy the multi-stage process. 👍
I think it’s not going to be for everybody because the expense will be hard to swallow even though it could balance out against multiple apps
Something that's twice a year would be nice!
I think you could do that with propeat. That’s one of the things their studies showed was great color and longevity.
For the last several years I have been using IBDU as my spring application at 1 #. Not alot of extra surge growth and lasts until my end of summer application of Methelyne urea while the soil microbes can process it efficiently. as the temps drop going into fall I switch over to spoon feeding urea then ammonium sulphate near the end of the growing season. I target 3-4# N per year.
For me I enjoy spending time in my yard, I look at it as a challenge to make the turf look it’s best plus studying the effects of those products I’ve chosen to apply? I use mostly organic products and the use of Next products as well to enhance the soil. I do not make any applications in the hottest three months, June July and August but I do try very hard to stay on top of things. Great content as usual JP!!!
Thank you Gary!
I really enjoyed this video with the history and the phyche behind the average person and lawn enthusiast, if you will. For me even if I had one bag I could throw down once a year I would still probably find a reason I needed to be out there, I'm sure there are many others like that too. Looking forward to part two.
Glad you enjoyed it!
Back in my old neighborhood, my neighbor would would make his annual trek to Lowes for a bag of weed and feed at the first sight of a dandelion. That would be his one and only application! He always said that he wished his lawn looked like mine. He just didn’t understand that a single bag of fert would not equal what I was doing!
There’s the common person right there
Yea and the weed and feed had atrizine in it. Might b bonus s. Which I think sucks
I was buying high end fert. I think this year I’m gonna try simple triple 13 a few times this year. M gonna try a area with trip 13
I make hanging baskets and planters and Osmocote/ Nutricote products are expensive but absolutely needed.
I tried a difficult strip of turf with it last year, the bit right by the city sidewalk and it worked very well.
I am in the north, north west so hot summers are rare.
This must be the place that fert is designed for.
Those ferts have been around a long time and you’re right, the use is for the nursery stock for the most part. I’ve seen it used in turf a few times with decent results.
I wonder how much of the sales in Spring are for the entire season. I try and buy as much as I think I need throughout the year at the beginning of the selling and then end up only purchasing here and there if needed later in the year. The percentage of these types is likely very low though.
I think that people believe the purchase is enough for the season and that’s the point.
@@Lawncology until they throw down a 15k sq foot bag on their 5k lawn 🤕
@@CHeCKEyE5 exactly. And that does happen
There are stores that sell the “four treatments” in spring. I prefer to avoid that sort of thing and buy as needed.
@@stevebabiak6997 yeah, I actually take advantage of that for my backyard because there are incentives with it and make the bulk purchase cheaper overall. But, I end up with almost two seasons worth of product so I only need to make the purchase every other year.