Is MILORGANITE Worth The Money?
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- Опубліковано 3 кві 2022
- How much does it cost to apply MILORGANITE to your yard? In this video I break it down for you.
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I still buy a few bags throughout the year and just throw'er down when I feel like it..
Thanks for the video and all the others you have produced. I took this great info which allowed me like you said to breakdown the cost and the amount of fertilizer and decided to make a tracker for the brands being sold locally. Based on this, it showed me that I was wasting a lot of money. I found fertilizers at Lowes that are dropping 81% N at $2.73 per 1K sqft. Amazing, thanks
LCN, you were my intro to lawn care when I bought my first house 8yrs ago. After a bad experience with an old bag of fert the previous owner had left in the garage, probably circa 2004 vintage, burnt patches lasted months, Milo was like training wheels. Once shortages hit 3yrs ago in soCal I was forced to run the numbers. Realized Bandini (synthetic brand at HD) was much cheaper/app than Milo (only $2.40/1,000 sq ft). Also seems like the modern ferts don’t burn the lawn as easily (or I’m more experienced) so it’s my go-too. Cheap and always in stock.
Mix in Ironite pellets to really dominate 💪
Thanks LCN for the many years of instruction.
Ive given up on Milorganite as well. The $40 to cover a standard size yard for 3 weeks just doesn't make it cost effective any longer at $8/sq. ft.. I have been using Ironite as well and will look into the Home Depot Bandini brand. Thanks for the heads up.
Great stuff Allyn! We're getting near pre-emergent temps up here in New England. Can't wait to get out on the lawn and start throwin' er down!
I bought the “Professional” 50lb bags at a tractor supply store a few years ago for about $20 a bag! Still have 2 bags thankfully!
what i love about organic slow release fert like milorganite, i can apply it heavily before the hot months, and the lawn seems to exhibit less signs of stress and maintains great color. (cool eason lawns)
The price went up after you did a review on it and side it was the best stuff! And now with everything going up, now it ridiculous for a bag of Milwaukee’s poop 💩 thanks Brofessor of lawns 👍🏼
Since switching to it, I haven’t had to water and mow as often. Nor have I had to fight fungal diseases in the late summer. The costs are similar if you consider the side effects of high nitrogen / high salts fertilizers.
Are you still using regular nitrogen fert too or no?
@@joshual574 Nope. Only the Milo but four feedings a year as they prescribe. The only products I apply in-between are humic, iron for color, and sea kelp to delay winter dormancy.
I've been using Milorganite for years and love it, great slow release fert and difficult to burn a yard with it if the weather turns dry for an extended period after application.
I use it on Memorial Day and Labor Day every year still. Works well for me too.
It’s the best!!!!! Green lawn domination 😅
I have used Milo several times. Works great!!!! Im trying Flagship for the first time in a week or so, it does indeed smell like success lol Thank you for the fair price!!!!
Thanks LCN.... Yard Care Boot Camp ....Kool. Great video you Mathematician, you are the man .
My local feed and seed store has the 40lb greens grade milorganite bags for $16! Yes… $16 😯🥰
I love Milo, the only thing I dislike is the lack of K, which my lawn can really use in the hot summer months (I've used Greene County products like Air8 and RGS in conjunction with Milo to get at least a little K down on the lawn). I'm about to mix it up and throw down some Freedom Fert from Yard Mastery next week, which looks like a great analysis,
Awesome info for all the Milo folks.
Milo was a good starting Fert and it's cheap. But I realized that where I live (in South Florida), my soil has high Phos already. And with all the heat I get, it doesn't provide the potassium that I would want. Something like Stress Blend etc.
I agree, I like some potassium for sure
@@Thelawncarenut I wouldn't roll Milo all year. But suppliment around it. Usually hit like some Texas Turf type stuff with 15-10-10 or whatever early summer, then hit some milo down for the long hot months. Then you can get some more Pot in in fall.
Great information bud
Great video! Your office space is looking good. You should do a tour video.
I’d honestly pay $30 a bag. It’s worked for my lawn every single year. Love it. I like to use it after I put something like Stress Blend down and use AIR8 and Humic 12 or even some RGS.
you got all the things to throw down!!! 🤘
It is 30 a bag from Amazon
@@playgroundofsound7683 it’s $16.98 where I’m at in Texas.
$14 Illinois
Great video! I stopped using Milo on my lawn for over a year now. its a great fertilizer but i feel it feeds the grass and the weeds. Since ive stopped using Milo and Bagging my clippings down here in south FL I've had virtually no weeds.
I notice that on the bahia grass after a milo application,weed ate alive the bahia no matter how hard i try to remove them and spray some stuff . now i have st Augustine and im thinking it twice
Weed and grasses both use N to do photosynthesis, so yes, if you neglect weed control you're essentially feeding the weeds by putting down strictly N and no broadleaf or other weed controls. The genius behind this is get the weeds under control first, then work at thickening up your existing turf grass by dethatching, aerating once per year if soil compaction is an issue, overseed early spring and mid-fall, regular irrigation for the lawn to help it fight through dormancy in the dog days of summer, and you'll build a thick turf that can outcompete the vast majority of the weed seed that finds its way to your soil. Once you've built that base, you can then much more easily spot control weed infestations with a hand sprayer, rather than having to throw down big bags of weed and feed or hose-end broadcast spraying weed control products where 90% of it lands on things that aren't weeds (thus a waste of money).
I just finished throwing down today. Light rain expected tonight!!
I have been experimenting at our new house with that BaHIIIIAAAAAGRRRRAAASSSS. I have been mowing often, applying 002 Microgreen and preemergent only. I do keep Malorganite on hand. I did need a small dose on all of my plants and trees to get them going as well as RGS and 002 microgreen. My plants and trees were unhappy initially. So far the bahia is doing great overall with no nitrogen or phosphorus applied after about 8 months.
I thought you would like this. My wife told me on our anniversary that my anniversary present was in the back of the car. Having no idea what it was I opened the back of the car and there was a bag of Milo. She said, “after 51 years all you get is a bag of shit!” I have to say it was a lot better than the “ration” of the same I have often gotten. I sat the spreader and rolled it on the front yard. Last year it was $12 at Walmart. This year it is $17.
What would you recommend for overseeding fertilizer in cool season grass in southeastern Wisconsin? I am planning on seeding this weekend and wondering what fertilizer to use after? How long also should I wait to fertilize after seeding?
Thanks for posting
Here's a tip for ya all in Wisconsin....look for Milwaukee's finest fertilizer at your local Farming Coop!
Got it in Sheboygan falls for under 7bucks!!!! And a pallet 42 bags
$ 6.25 ea.
Troooow 'er down!
This is the question I had for a couple of weeks now
I used Milo a for a couple seasons. Went away from it for a few years. Going back to it this year. No matter what else I tried, my lawn hasn’t looked as good since I used it. Just keeping it simple is the way to go some times.
I've used milo for about two years then I tried Scotts turf builder lawn food and since I've used that I will never go back to Milo. I get a bag that covers 15k sq ft for 50.00 or 5k for 20.00. Fyi I have tall fescue- kbg mix.
I remember when Milo was $5 a bag and sometimes $3 on sale
I use to buy 6 bags at $10 per bag, I stoped buying when it surpassed $15
You can thank our favorite lawn care nut for the massive price increase...
@@DK-pr9ny it's $12.99 at my local Menards for me it's a wash but I still Choose YARDMASTERY
@@mkzenthusiasts Unfortunately only Menards in Wisconsin carries it.
Its just plain ol price gauging. It still cost the same amt. To take a dump as it did 7 or 8 years ago. Milo the company know they cant get that marked up price so they are getting it. Supply and demand is definately 100% the reason for the increase.
Very nicely done
I need that Toro stool. It looks great.
Remember when Milo was $12? Good old days (like 3 yrs ago). Nice math video, thanks!
Dang right I just got me some RGS in the quart size for my postage stamp front yard.
Great info, I've been a long time listener. I only have a 2,500 sq ft lawn... I just throw'er down and hope for the best!
BTW, it's been working good. much thanks to Allyn.
Now that you have a warehouse you could do a class once in awhile and really do a deep dive into the average homeowner. Well actually it would be the other way around lol. Talk about people getting impressed by what you do, oh boy big time. Include a tour of the warehouse and show off all the products they can buy for their lawns.
I need insight! Threw down a few bags on bermuda sod Sat. We had rain chances so I didn't water in...no rain Sunday either. Monday we had a monsoon with 40%-50% chances for the rest of the week. Will it still work? Did I waste my $$? What should I do? Thank you!
After our freeze we still have small bare spots in some of our St. Augustine lawn? Reseed? Fertilize?
That did clear somethings up for me, thank you 👍
great to hear!
Yard mastery products for me, Best value
thanks bro!
Got your app and recommended treatments (bio-stim, podiamine, flagship and stress).
Questions: Can / should we also use milorganite also? Can it be substituted for one of the recommended products?
Just did the calc and Anderson a lawn food comes up to 1lb nitrogen per 1k and at $7.376. Few more cents gets 1/4lb more nitrogen.
Here in NJ our milorganite is called Ocean Gro. NJ has it's own poop to process and a 45lb bag costs only $7.99. Cover 5,000 sq feet.
I've heard a lot of good things about that stuff from Grass Daddy.
It's still 14.99 to 16.99 here in Dallas-Fort.. cheaper than most and it works is all that matters. I'll stick with won me yard of the month. Funny how it was always worth it and when you get your own it's is it worth it lol
There's a couple of things I forgot that I did years ago that really made my lawn pop. One is to spray your lawn with cheap dish soap after you fertilize. The soap breaks the water tension in the soil so that your fertilizer will be assimilated even better. I learned that from some farmers up in Indiana. They bought soap by the 55 gallon drum for their fields when they planted. Also, I want to get a bunch of black cow and spread it out in my lawn. It's like black gold, Texas tea.
GOLD!!! Thanks for the info!! God bless you and your family!
Agree on the black kow. What’s your app rate for the soap? And doesn’t it cause the granules to stick?
Dishwasher rinse aid will do the same job and is a lot more concentrated and usually about the same price as a bottle of dish liquid.
The sodium laurel (or laureth) sulphate is the ingredient most responsible for this. It is also found in liquid aerate products for lawns. It chemically loosens hard soils and promotes water (and fert) absorption into the root zone. I find this to be useful before summer drought- so the rain we do get absorbs before running off or evaporating.
How are you spreading the black cow? Does it work if you put it in your Earthway fertilizer spreader?
I used to use milorganite on St Augustine but I have changed my front and back lawn to Zorro zoysia. Anyone have input on what fertilizers are best for it? I’ve been wanting to try “ Texas Best Professional turf food 19-5-9”…
what is the growing hype on spreading wood ash on your lawn? does it help with acidic/ hard soil turf?
Milo price is insane $18:99 here not much farther and it will be the same price as the Scotts 5,000 coverage turf builder $22 here at the local Lowes
How many times a year do you need to put 12lbs down on the lawn ? I love morganite but I only use it once in the summer . Should I increase applications ?
I only use milorganite once. I do like the product but I don't like the phosphorus build up over time. My wife hates the smell but I just get a kick out of her saying it stinks 😂 It's the smell of success, I tell her.
What do you recommen (inexpensive) in bulk? (I've got 6+ acres) liquid is fine also.
I'm paying 7.99 after striking a deal with the corporate purchasing people at a regional retailer (no I won't disclose which one). Just ordered 100 bags to get me through the season as I have 2 large clients that request it. Regular price here is average 12.99 per bag and the highest I've seen is 15.99. I haven't encountered the K buildup on soil tests that others have with the product after 3 seasons of use. How long does that usually take to occur in sandy loam?
I used to get milo at 12-14 a bag but inflation and demand also moved it up
we sound like old people talking about "when the good ole days were here" ha ha!
how long after u put scotts turf buider can you put milorganite have put scotts weed and feed and 14days later put turf buider grass still looks brown and have weeds!?back and side yard look great!?
Hello
I’m new here applied Milorganite 4 days ago. How long do I have to wait to apply Disease EX ? I’m getting brown spot in the grass
Maybe I should have started with the brown spot
I love your videos but don’t even need to watch this one. Yes, it’s worth every penny. 👍
Not if you're paying more than $8.99 a bag. It has no Potassium!
Hey Allyn, do you have a recommendation for fertilizer without phosphorus? We're not allowed to use it in Orlando.
Sunniland 24-0-11 at Lowes. Works great!
I buy a 50lb bag of water soluble 46-0-0 for $22.00, humic acid, and ferrous suplhate in 25lb bags.. a bucket, dish soap, pinch of citric acid, and a strainer bag.
It lasts me all season and beyond.
Damn that’s a massive amount of nitrogen!!! Why don’t more products come out with those numbers? I love my flagship fertilizer
Mr. Nut, I've gotta ask: What camera are you using for this video? I am looking for a video camera and the quality of your video here is EXCELLENT! Thanks in advance for sharing!
It's just a GoPro 9 at 60fps. simple and effective.
@@Thelawncarenut The clarity is fantastic!
I'm wondering what to do if your using a different fertilizer and it has a high nitrogen number, would you still adjust to throw down 0.75lbs or follow bag rate?
If you have another fert you are using, skip the Milo all together until the next application of fert is due.
Walked into Ace for something else...saw 32lb bags on sale for $9.99....couldn't leave without picking up a few. 😁
Please help me understand , I just purchased a Scotts Max green fertilizer that covers 10,000 sq ft and that's the sq footage I have on my lawn front and back combined, it has a anylisis of a 27-0-2 , it costed me $66.00 for the bag, the Milorginite bag in my big box store that covers 2,500 sq ft at $24.00 per bag and the analysis is 6-4-0 per bag so I will need to get 4 bags to cover 10,000 sq ft so that's $120 for a lot less Nitrogen? please advice!
Picked up some e-Corganite from Menards since the Milo was sold out. It doesn’t have the same N-P-K but at a 4-3-0 it wasn’t terrible and it’s not a fake, it’s just a clone but it’s derived from biosolids
That's only .58/1000 sq ft for $13/bag 2500sq ft coverage. Only 1.5% iron too. You'd need almost 3 bags of that for every 2 of Milorganite. It's close though but still not the same benefits.
@@aliaskink I also threw down whatever I had left of my CX DIY @ 24-0-4 to make up for the lack of Nitrogen it had
I see the EGO Z6 is on the driveway, love to see a review of this beast.
coming very soon!
@@Thelawncarenut Thank you, love your work mate.
My lawn is 2,500 Sq feet so it works out for me ill be using it along with some 0-0-25 liquid
Buy Bay State Fertilizer. Same process, but Boston is the source. 5% Iron 4-3-0. $3.50 per bag at the source.
I need your help. Surfactant vs dish soap which is better when applying herbicide?
Both work fine.
I use to use Milo until I couldn't find it anymore in Southern California. Use to get it from my local home depot and now no one carries it near me.
I've given up on Milorganite as well. The $40 to cover a standard size yard for 3 weeks just doesn't make it cost effective any longer at $8/sq. ft.. I have been using Ironite as well and will look into the Home Depot Bandini brand. Thanks for the heads up.
Milo lasts up to 10 weeks, where you getting 3 weeks? :p That's where Milo shines, you put it down half as much, which he didn't factor into the cost here. So it's like 18 dollars per app actually compared to your standard fert.
I'm about to lay zoysia sod. What should I put down before/after for best results
Put this down before you sod on the bare dirt, 3lbs/1000. Then apply again in 2 weeks. thelawncarenut.com/collections/granular-fertilizer/products/12-12-12-starter-fertilizer-with-3-iron-and-bio-nite%E2%84%A2#
Yes, every penny! It's so good, it's made it into like 4 of my songs now 😂
$7.20 per 1k sq ft is outrageously over priced and people around me are paying a lot more than $17.99 a bag, it's closer to 24.99 a bag near me. I've seen it as high as 29.99 a bag. Hopefully this will open up some people's eyes! I know you're not done though..... 🤔 👊🏼
3-4 years ago, $36 of Milo would do my lawn for an entire year. I can tell my soil has improved since using it exclusively for many years. Milwaukee needs to poop faster.
i hope you look at Ecorganite from Menards
A year ago I bought 500 pounds of ammonium sulfate at a farmer rate of 20 cents per pound. It comes literally in a 500 pound bag called a tote. This makes my app rate per 1000 come out to 71 cents, and will last years on my huge lawn.
makes you wonder why pro lawn companies charge $60 for an app on a 5,000 sq ft lawn doesn't it?
@@Thelawncarenut Makes you wonder why people pay it! 😉
can the fert value be added to calculator on the app?
Hey Al,
What can I add to my ProVista to give it that blue tinge? I used YM starter fertilizer and it looks great five weeks after installation.
if you like liquid, spray this on and let it sit, works great yardmastery.com/collections/fertilizers-liquid/products/7-0-0-greene-effect-1-gallon-1#
If you want another full on fertilizer then Flagship is your ticket to dark blue green on the ProVista yardmastery.com/collections/fertilizers-granular/products/24-0-6-flagship-granular-lawn-fertilizer-with-iron#
where did you get your provista? I'm trying to find the seed.
From Tater Farms in Hastings, FL. There is no seed for ProVista. Just sod or plugs.
@@gpoman9988 According to their website it’s available in seed and sod. I’ll do some more digging and see what I come up with.
@ The Lawn Care Nut can confirm
I just bought a home and in 3 weeks I will be moving in. I'm getting a head start with all your videos and this one was a huge help. No milo up here in Canada but I just did the math on the bag i did find that I thought might be good. $6.94 per 1000sq feet and 0.62lbs of N per 1000 sq feet. Also has 2% iron. Think that's going to be my go to this year and we will see how it goes. Thank you for the videos!
Also, I know we can't buy any of the Yard Mastery products here in Canada but would the YC Bootcamp still be helpful?
I stopped using it after the shortage/price hike. The last two years, my lawn looks better than ever. I've stuck with Lesco products from a landscape supplier. They have bio stim stuff too that I use on the front and sides. Too $ to do the 1/2 acre out back.
That's awesome! Having the knowledge like this allows you to find ways to save money and still get high quality stuff. 🤘
@@Thelawncarenut yup, I thought it was a bulk order only place, but they allow walk-ins to buy from open pallets. I still PreE and fert the back yard, but it doesn't get the extras and you can tell. Front and sides stay greener over winter and green up sooner, and grow faster. There are often times that I mow the front/sides and I don't need to mow the back during the mid-week mow(s).
im no expert but i mixed some liquid fish and urea 50/50 and got similar results. sprayed with the ortho.. much cheaper also
Ah, the music at the end reminds me of Miami Vice!
Me too !
When are they going to make another version of milorganite? Seems like most cities could make this stuff
FYI Same bag is 12$ at Menards 17-18$ at blue and orange
What setting are you using on your spreader?
It tells you on the back of every bag.
I stopped used Milo a few years ago when the scarcity hit and just use whatever random fert I find in the store that's more economical. Honestly not sure I notice a difference.
So what's your best description of the morganite smell?
Smells like funky blueberries to me.
Blueberries and rotting flesh.
Kinda smell like the beach
I am curious to see (and hear) how many people use milorganite on large size lawns. My lawn is 50k, that means I have to use 20 bags of the product per fertilization. Therefore, I have been sticking with inorganic fertilizer but I supplement with humic + micronutrient spraying every 6-8 wks. LCN I am curious to hear what do you suggest for large size lawns.
I’m also curious to know! I too use 20 bags of milo per app. Would love for LCN to weigh in for those of us with larger than average lawns.
I have .70 acres ...i use
Starter fert in late winter/early spring 18-24-12
8 to 10 bags of milorganite
Middle of spring I use Scott's 3 n1
Early summer I mop up random weeds with Bayer weed n feed(spot spray)
Late summer/early fall 8 more bags of milorganite and starter fert(same ratio)
Aerate n seed
Repeat process next year
☀️Enjoyed the video, Alan! Look forward to the success test! 😂
I love your positivity now show me how to prevent or easily get rid of my nutsedge every season without making my entire lawn bare cuz it kills all the real grass around it 😭
if you get on it early with sedgehammer you can reduce it greatly.
You were right in the last video, your warehouse looks just like home depot!🤣
it's hilarious, even my dad said he thought I was in HD lol
Milo good old Milo, good thing I have a small yard do I can afford to use it!
In Idaho this Spring Milorganite is $20 a bag, so, outside of a few special circumstances, as a 6-4-0, no it's not worth it.
i stopped using it after i realized that’s it’s just baked and pelleted human waste from the sewer system in milwaukee. i thought it’s more ‘processed’ until one day i dissolved some in water. the next day it reeked like ‘fresh’ sewer. the higher price is yet another reason to avoid it. genius idea by milwaukee (and others) to get rid of their ever accumulating sewer waste but i refuse to store it in my lawn.
Dang, I’ve got 6 bags or so I can’t use this year. Maybe I should sell it to some locals here in Nampa
That is one of the highest I have heard about so far.
Thankfully it's only 12 dollars here in the upper Midwest. One hour drive to Menards and 11% back on that.
Lucky me that I live nearby Bay State Fertilizer facility which the price still is still $3.50/bag for many years. The minimum purchase needs to be 50 bags which I share with my friends.
I used to drive down and get about 20/25 bags that would last me a couple years. Was bummed at the full pallet requirement, means I'd have to rent a trailer and find storage space for that much.
Would you use Milorganite AND Flagship in the same app, or just one or the other? If you could do a full application of both at the same time (and not burn your lawn), is there a substantial benefit to this, or should you just do one of them?
It's a question I get alot and the answer is no I would not recommend both at the same time. That would not burn the lawn but it's just overkill. Choose one or the other and see what results you get from each one independently. Keep them at least 4 weeks apart.
Yo Alan....what's the 90% left in da bag over by der? Lots of product but ah, dat der bag only mentions 10% of it.
it's dead microbes, literally.
@@Thelawncarenut maybe do a video on those dead microbes too, that 90% of what we're paying for. I'm curious!
Why is the rate cut in half for Florida?
they want to reduce runoff and also we have high phos already in our soils
I think I knew this, but I needed to hear it from the LCN himself! Thanks!
Honestly I like to put down milo at a higher rate One bag per 2000 sq ft which gets you a bit more iron and just under a pound of Nitrogen per 1K -so with tax you’re looking at roughly $10 per 1K sq ft. I use it a few times a year in between chemical fertilizers.
Liquids are definitely cheaper but also the type/types of N and delivery matter. Spoon feeding with liquids is hard to beat as you can combine it with other bio stimulants and foliar iron. For simplicity and ease for the average homeowner a coated time release (or fast release in some cases like Spring) granular is hard to beat. It’s a crappy way to do post emergent weed control though.
Great video. It’s worth noting the coverage rate on the bag can be misleading because different companies will calculate that number using different application rates. If the goal is to compare across brands, it’s best to calculate the coverage using your desired application rate to ensure apples to apples.
Yes they do like to play with that app rate but that's why I also use the nitrogen per 1000 as a test. Can't hide from that with a low app rate when you're only at 4-6% N
People aren’t buying it just for the N it’s a mere 6% but helps the iron delivery. They’re buying it for the boost of iron to supplement regular program and the soil benefits. Nice plug for your bootcamp though haha. We aren’t that stupid.
And once you figure out the lay of your lawn and buy fertilizer a few times, and have the math down, it just gets easier when you buy fertilizer. Last year I played with buying cheaper products from the farm supply place. staying with the same rates as always. Results were not near as good. I know theoretically I should have had the same results based on the bag advertised analysis. Not the case. Back to milo and or the other name brands that bring success for me.