SECONDS after takeoff | Air Florida flight 90

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    Seconds after takeoff from Washington DC, the pilots of a 737 struggle desperately to keep their plane in the air. 79 lives hang in the balance, as their aircraft begins to slip towards they icy waters of the Potomac river. How did they get into this situation in the first place, and do they have any chance of making it out? This is the story of Air Florida flight 90.
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  • @GreenDotAviation
    @GreenDotAviation  Рік тому +98

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    • @alexhoe02
      @alexhoe02 Рік тому +1

      Aw man I’d I knew you was making this I’d of emailed you a photo both pilots

    • @turkeydoctor5546
      @turkeydoctor5546 Рік тому

      Will you tell us the story about the sky king? ➰➿✈️ 👑 He flew the jet and was hilarious about it. 😂
      ua-cam.com/video/DstWZY_eUOc/v-deo.html

    • @JasmineTanis
      @JasmineTanis 8 місяців тому +1

      😊

  • @gomphrena-beautifulflower-8043
    @gomphrena-beautifulflower-8043 Рік тому +1268

    One of the few initial survivors, first name Arthur (if I recall correctly), was tangled up in wires and cables, so he asked the first responder - and the bystander who jumped in to help - rescue the others first. He died waiting those moments, bless him. It’s my understanding that bridge was renamed in honor of him. RIP all who perished.

    • @MountainCry
      @MountainCry Рік тому +303

      Arland Dean Williams Jr had a floatation device dropped from the helicopter to him, but he passed it along to the other survivors each time it was dropped to him. The bridge was renamed after him, and he received several other posthumous honors too, including an elementary school in his hometown.

    • @gomphrena-beautifulflower-8043
      @gomphrena-beautifulflower-8043 Рік тому +175

      @@MountainCry • Thank you for setting me straight. He lay down his life for others, the ultimate sacrifice.

    • @theaceofspades485
      @theaceofspades485 Рік тому +23

      Amazing story. Will have to look this up.

    • @cheetajet320
      @cheetajet320 Рік тому +48

      They renamed the 14th street bridge after him. I drove over it on Saturday.

    • @MrBsbotto
      @MrBsbotto Рік тому +68

      What a brilliant man, a true hero. Also, how about some love for the bystander who, of his own volition, dove into the freezing water to rescue people. Being submerged in frozen waters is the closest thing to hell that I can conceive, and he dove right in! What a heroic act.

  • @KoffinKat
    @KoffinKat Рік тому +1109

    Wow at that captain. He was deemed "unsatisfactory" when it comes to:
    1. Departures
    2. Cruise control
    3. Approaches
    4. Landings
    Those are literally all phases of a flight, aren't they? What was he good at, then? 🤣
    _Edit: this is a great channel, by the way! Having discovered it just recently, I watched a mix of older and newer videos and I must say, it's incredible how much the quality improved_ 👍

    • @GreenDotAviation
      @GreenDotAviation  Рік тому +196

      That's quite a lot indeed. And thank you! I'm glad you've noticed an improvement in the videos. I'm working hard to make them even better this year!

    • @kevinharris5737
      @kevinharris5737 Рік тому +64

      Such a Mickey mouse airline.

    • @Dilley_G45
      @Dilley_G45 Рік тому +36

      Taxiing...Climb out(?), initial descent, Shut down

    • @u-know-this
      @u-know-this Рік тому +37

      All the dangerous phases

    • @noname-wo9yy
      @noname-wo9yy Рік тому +8

      ​@@kevinharris5737suprised Disney has not sued them yet

  • @kristita_888
    @kristita_888 Рік тому +750

    I have always felt so bad for the co-pilot in this situation. His awareness of the aircraft’s performance and the icing issues could have saved so many lives. This is why the importance of CRM cannot be overstated.

    • @Tj11813
      @Tj11813 11 місяців тому +9

      CRM?

    • @juliemanarin4127
      @juliemanarin4127 11 місяців тому +2

      I completely agree!

    • @juliemanarin4127
      @juliemanarin4127 11 місяців тому +49

      @@Tj11813 crew resource management

    • @gsk5161
      @gsk5161 11 місяців тому +58

      @@Tj11813 basically not letting one man bully the other two.

    • @ZeroSOFInfinity
      @ZeroSOFInfinity 10 місяців тому +40

      ​@@gsk5161yeah, basically the same thing also happened during the Tenerife disaster. Captain of KLM "override" the other crew members because he was hell bent on leaving. Instead he caused the deadliest air disaster of all time.

  • @EpicJoshua314
    @EpicJoshua314 Рік тому +723

    The rescue of the survivors of this crash shows great heroism: Roger Olian volunteered to enter the water with a long tether attached to him to rescue the survivors and when he reached them the helicopter arrived so he was pulled back, Lenny Skutnik jumped from the bridge into the water to save Priscilla Tilrado who would have drowned if not for his actions, helicopter pilot Don Usher flew his chopper so close to the water that at some points a skid entered the water.

    • @publicmail2
      @publicmail2 Рік тому +74

      The most amazing act of heroism that I've heard is that of Lenny Skutnik. He was presented a well deserved award from President Regan.

    • @optician53
      @optician53 Рік тому +26

      @@publicmail2 Agreed ... I couldn't believe what I was seeing at first.

    • @mile1920
      @mile1920 Рік тому +41

      agreed, i watched lenny skutnik live, i was yelling at my tv SAVE HER and lenny jumped in, best hero ever!!

    • @ArtCurator2020
      @ArtCurator2020 Рік тому

      What none of you seem to realize is that all that "Heroism" would've been unnecessary had airlines not been SO Greedy that they insisted on taking off in blizzard conditions. All the Heroism in the World doesn't compensate for Corporate Greed. The idea that Any Plane Anywhere would try to take off in these conditions is Mentally Ill and it's only BS Media Propaganda that keeps common people blind to this.

    • @robincharles7057
      @robincharles7057 Рік тому +41

      I watched a really good video on the rescue and there were some really brave people that day. Arland D. Williams Jr. was a passenger that showed a lot of heroism as well. He survived the initial crash but drowned before they could rescue him because he allowed the other survivors to be saved first. One of the bridges ended up being renamed after him.

  • @mycroftsanchez901
    @mycroftsanchez901 Рік тому +128

    The Air Traffic Controller has to share some of the blame for allowing a plane to land on a runway when another is taking off.

  • @m.streicher8286
    @m.streicher8286 Рік тому +501

    The only air crash channel I still consistently watch. It never feels like you're wasting time with tangential information.

    • @commerce-usa
      @commerce-usa Рік тому +18

      Not the only one for me, but certainly among the better ones here on UA-cam.

    • @m.streicher8286
      @m.streicher8286 Рік тому +16

      @@commerce-usa There are others who are really good. Attribute my comment to ACI burnout.

    • @EpicJoshua314
      @EpicJoshua314 Рік тому +8

      @@m.streicher8286 Yeah, Green Dot's American 1572 episode was 1,000 times better than the Mayday/ACI episode. The ACI episode also should be used how not to conduct an investigation where the plane is intact and everybody onboard survived.

    • @Dancingonthesun
      @Dancingonthesun Рік тому +4

      He also has the best line delivery

    • @exiletsj2570
      @exiletsj2570 Рік тому +22

      Mentour's series is good for the aviation knowledge and a pilots perspective. This channel puts on a more entertaining show though, better use of theatre, drama and cinematics etc.

  • @robbflynn4325
    @robbflynn4325 Рік тому +565

    So so sad, the final exchange between the pilots is chilling.

    • @toonieven
      @toonieven Рік тому +106

      Indeed, literally staring death in the face as it rapidly closes in on you... I find these cockpit voice recordings heartbreaking.

    • @MrMississippiMan
      @MrMississippiMan Рік тому +71

      Imagine someone today, some young person "dude we are going down" "yeah no sh!t" lol

    • @classonbread5757
      @classonbread5757 Рік тому +27

      Not the best word you could've used there

    • @jb894
      @jb894 Рік тому +19

      Pun intended?

    • @DanielSilva-gc4xz
      @DanielSilva-gc4xz Рік тому +15

      Not only the final exchange. Every exchange in this flight was so chilly it froze the water in the wings.

  • @bwktlcn
    @bwktlcn Рік тому +223

    A coworker’s dad was on the bridge, stuck in traffic. She said it haunted him for the rest of his life. He and other people ran toward the cars that had been hit, and there was just nothing to be done for 4 of the people. The only good thing about it was they got Flight 90 as high as they did. Just a little lower, and the engines would have hit the bridge, ruptured the fuel tanks, and the bridge would have been a fireball and nobody on the plane or bridge would have survived. The bridge might have even went down. My coworker was a little kid when this happened -he just knew his dad would never let them go to Vail for skiing, or fly down to Disneyworld in the winter. Finally, he sat my future coworker down and explained why they would never fly in snowy weather unless it was an emergency. He had severe PTSD, and fought panic attacks when he had to cross the bridge in bad winter weather. I’m sure he wasn’t the only one.

  • @AJBa83
    @AJBa83 Рік тому +235

    Seems like they were very nervous about their situation, and dealt with their apprehension by ignoring it as much as possible. Great for staying calm. Not so great when you really need to be paying attention.

    • @freedomfighter5222
      @freedomfighter5222 Рік тому +24

      Yes! Like a famous american author wrote: - You can avoid reality, but you cannot avoid the consequences of avoiding reality !
      [ Ayn Rand ]

    • @gnarthdarkanen7464
      @gnarthdarkanen7464 Рік тому +4

      Far better to hide/vent your stress through humor and laughs... You've got to be quick thinking to make a joke, and it doesn't have to be a great joke... Laughing helps exude stress-energy, too... Some folks don't think you can take anything seriously, but if you ever wondered why certain "professionals" have a weird sense of humor that might border (or frankly, dive right into) the inappropriate, now you can understand why and how that is...
      You don't ignore the Devil. You stare him RIGHT in the eye, and then you SPIT... ;o)

  • @rilmar2137
    @rilmar2137 Рік тому +600

    So many mistakes by the crew here... One might think they'd have been especially cautious in conditions they were not accustomed to.

    • @westnblu
      @westnblu Рік тому +59

      not the co pilot . He didn't want to go ahead with the take off but in the period this accident occurred the pilot has the last word.

    • @VGF80
      @VGF80 Рік тому +7

      @@westnblu You mean the 'pilot in command' had the last word?

    • @gosborg
      @gosborg Рік тому +4

      Or perhaps it was stress caused by the adverse weather, delays etc. that distracted them, rushed them and overwhelmed them.

    • @johnoneill5661
      @johnoneill5661 Рік тому +38

      The pilot should not have been a pilot. If you keep failing routine tests that show your ability or in his case lack of ability to safely perform your job, then it should have been sorry but you are not up to standard goodbye. In an emergency you don’t get the chance to fail and do it again at a later date and get it right 😡

    • @fionalorimer4127
      @fionalorimer4127 Рік тому +12

      I wouldn’t feel comfortable as a passenger having a captain in charge of the plane, with a recent suspension, and provided various attempts by the airline to get him back in the cockpit. Air Florida should have had tighter requirements for their pilots.

  • @cheetajet320
    @cheetajet320 Рік тому +65

    The Captain came from Air Sunshine which was a mom and pop airline in Southern Florida. So did the surviving flight attendant. I was 12 years-old and watched the rescue live from my home in State College, Pa. We had the same snowstorm hitting. It was terrible and we got let out of school early. I'll never forget that crash! I didn't even know Florida had an airline! Now I'm 53 and a flight attendant who's had a great long career. Always think about Palm 90 on Winter days.

  • @Truthseeker4449
    @Truthseeker4449 Рік тому +161

    Wow so many details I've never heard before, such as a plane landing on the runway as they were still on the take off roll. Splendid job.

    • @GreenDotAviation
      @GreenDotAviation  Рік тому +19

      Glad you learned something new from this vid!

    • @kristita_888
      @kristita_888 Рік тому +33

      As many times as I have learned about this accident, I never knew there was a landing aircraft on the runway, either! That controller really added fuel to this fire.

    • @jacquesg2465
      @jacquesg2465 Рік тому +2

      @@GreenDotAviation I did learn too

    • @danielbroadbridge886
      @danielbroadbridge886 Рік тому +5

      Yep, I don't remember ACI mentioning that!

    • @cflyin8
      @cflyin8 Рік тому +15

      I hope the controller got some retraining too. Two aircraft on one runway!? With modern TCAS, the crew of the landing plane would have been forced to execute a go around per most airline SOPs. Here, they may not have known Air Florida was there. All they knew was they had a landing clearance and AF had been cleared for takeoff and should be airborne.

  • @thefloralgoddess9084
    @thefloralgoddess9084 Рік тому +232

    A post script to this event: a few days after this crash, I was on 395 to go over the 14th st bridge. It's always slow, but it was crawling. Once I was about 3/4 over the bridge I saw why...the tail end of the aircraft, last few rows on seats included facing me, had been towed to the wharf. I've never forgotten this. Just awful and heartbreaking. RIP to all the victims.

    • @ewyss9206
      @ewyss9206 Рік тому

      You mean to say, the bodies of those who had perished were still strapped to their seats for passers-by to see? What horror!

    • @cheetajet320
      @cheetajet320 Рік тому +21

      ​@@ewyss9206 Empty seats 💺
      No one would leave bodies for all to see. What's wrong with you?

    • @thefloralgoddess9084
      @thefloralgoddess9084 Рік тому +12

      No. Just seats. That was bad enough.

    • @AlastorsMonocole
      @AlastorsMonocole 2 місяці тому +1

      @@thefloralgoddess9084I know I’m literally a a year late but I hope you’re doing well, and that had to have been so scary, heart goes out to you and everyone who died that day ❤

  • @enigmadrath1780
    @enigmadrath1780 Рік тому +44

    It's disheartening to hear the first officer begin to doubt his intuition when thr captain waved off his concerns. Despite his inexperience in this type of weather, he could tell something was wrong but trusted the seniority of his captain.

  • @nysockexchange2204
    @nysockexchange2204 Рік тому +69

    Appreciate how you spent 99% of the time discussing the mistakes made by the pilots and not on the rescue efforts themselves which have been covered ad nauseam on other programs.

  • @neatstuff1988
    @neatstuff1988 Рік тому +97

    As a long time major airline pilot I'm safe to say that this channel is excellent. You took this down to its component parts and left nothing unclear. Going even past that you took it to a personal level like mistakes that the captain was making on account of poor performance. Honestly, I almost expected to hear what they had for lunch.... Well done

    • @TheUrantia001
      @TheUrantia001 9 місяців тому +4

      How to explain such gross negligence from supposed high paid pro's ?...really stunned .something as simple as a de-icer button..pretty strange..poor situational awareness.

  • @mattoc7567
    @mattoc7567 Рік тому +67

    My passion for aviation was turbo charged by Channel 4's Black Box Documentaries back in the late 90's. It was like nothing I had seen before...until now. The depth of psychological, technical and scientific analysis, combined with superb narration in this channel, is unequaled anywhere.

    • @GreenDotAviation
      @GreenDotAviation  Рік тому +9

      Thank you so much! Delighted that this re-sparked your interest in aviation :)

  • @georgenorris2657
    @georgenorris2657 8 місяців тому +15

    I don´t understand how they can be so anxious about ice and yet not put on the de-icing! It´s bonkers!

  • @fecardona
    @fecardona Рік тому +42

    The captain on this flight behaves exactly like my boss

  • @b.t.356
    @b.t.356 Рік тому +69

    I can't believe it's already been almost 41 years since the disaster. I can't imagine the terror that the people on the plane and on the bridge went through.

  • @Claude1100
    @Claude1100 Рік тому +65

    Most of us are familiar with this crash, but you have brought new light to bear, and engaged us in a way that no other aviation channel is able too.. many thanks.

  • @pissant145
    @pissant145 Рік тому +28

    Again, an accident I have heard several times before, but Green Dot provided me with TWO new pieces: the previous failures of the flight crew and the landing plane behind them. I don't know how you do it, Green Dot, and I think you are amazing!!

  • @brettwasserman1781
    @brettwasserman1781 Рік тому +50

    I flew out of DCA to LGA on the same day as this crash. I was on an Eastern Airlines 727 shuttle that was two takeoffs before this one. It was snowing heavily and I remember it well.

    • @juliemanarin4127
      @juliemanarin4127 11 місяців тому

      Omg...wow!

    • @Hawther
      @Hawther 5 місяців тому

      Did they say anything on the plane or did you find out much later after you'd arrived at your destination on the evening news/paper?

  • @timorieseler276
    @timorieseler276 Рік тому +93

    I've come to an age where I realized that when people risk their lifes by doing something very stupid, they are usually under the false impression of total control and not aware that they are doing exactly this...

  • @Yosetime
    @Yosetime Рік тому +22

    It's so creepy and sad to hear the cockpit recordings after the fact. To know they are going to go down and they are completely unaware until the very end.
    I've watched the episode of Mayday on this crash. The rescue efforts after the plane hit the water was nothing short of miraculous. Anyone who hasn't seen it should do so. There is excellent re-creation footage and real accident footage as well. There were many hero's that day. The survivors went through hell to get out of that icy water. It's heartstopping.

    • @wraynephew6838
      @wraynephew6838 Рік тому +4

      They were aware, it was just too late. I am confident in the last moment the captain realized that his First officer was right.

    • @catscanhavelittleasalami
      @catscanhavelittleasalami Рік тому +9

      @@wraynephew6838 FO realized he had been right too. You can hear the disappointment in his voice when he says "we're going down" like that poor dude was defeated. Probably kicked himself for not insisting that something was wrong, tho it wouldn't have changed the outcome.

    • @wraynephew6838
      @wraynephew6838 Рік тому +2

      @@catscanhavelittleasalami it is extremely sad

  • @theHDRflightdeck
    @theHDRflightdeck Рік тому +100

    How far we've come...Standing on the shoulders of all those who perished, it's our duty to avoid the mistakes of the past.

    • @starguy2718
      @starguy2718 Рік тому +15

      Safety rules are written in blood.

    • @mofomartianp
      @mofomartianp Рік тому +4

      @@starguy2718 So are peace treaties.

    • @Shadowwand
      @Shadowwand Рік тому +2

      Regulations are written in blood. Which is partly why I hate this idea that opening up regulations are ever a good thing.

    • @NoSaysJo
      @NoSaysJo 6 місяців тому

      ​@@mofomartianplmao cringe

  • @j.m.5942
    @j.m.5942 Рік тому +51

    Your videos are always top notch. Unlike some channels its not simply a readout of the report, but rather an interesting analysis based on it.
    One thing I would suggest, dont say in the title whether the plane crashed, kills the suspense if you know the outcome before watching it.

    • @darkko1969
      @darkko1969 Рік тому +4

      I absolutely agree. No 'spoiler alerts'.

    • @meadahagain
      @meadahagain Рік тому +1

      I agree, but didn’t want to come off the wrong way. You said it perfectly. 👍🏽

  • @davidpawson7393
    @davidpawson7393 Рік тому +67

    My father boarded this flight but realized he had left an envelope with the paper he wrote in a cab. I was sledding that day and came home to the phone ringing as fast as you could hang up and because of the high phone traffic many people couldn't get through Ike my father until that evening. Nobody told my sister or myself anything and wouldn't let us turn the TV on. The only other time I had the feeling I had was the day he explained what cancer was and that he had it.
    So many heros that day and I don't know why I'm crying from writing this when our family didn't suffer like many others. RIP

    • @zedfourme5085
      @zedfourme5085 Рік тому +8

      Of all the things that didn't happen this is tops

    • @chrisclermont456
      @chrisclermont456 Рік тому +3

      Your family was spared.

    • @kc8ufv
      @kc8ufv Рік тому +10

      Survivor guilt is real. You know how close he came. While it is definitely different than those who were actually on the plane, you know he was originally supposed to be there, but some circumstances occured to keep him off.

    • @anjou6497
      @anjou6497 Рік тому +2

      You did suffer, it was such a profound shock to you how close you came to losing your Dad. 👍💕

    • @nancysherburne7445
      @nancysherburne7445 Рік тому

      @@kc8ufv I'm not sure how well my reply will be received but your mention that David's father was supposed to be on the plane reminded me of when Buddy Holly's plane crashed. Waylon Jennings was supposed to be on the plane but he swapped his seat for Richardson, better known as the Big Bopper who died in the crash with Buddy, Ritchie Valens, and the pilot, Roger Peterson. I can't imagine how guilty Jennings must have felt and I can't imagine how very relieved David's father felt at being spared a good possibility he would not have survived had he boarded that plane. Thank you for sharing such a feel-good memory.

  • @kneel1
    @kneel1 Рік тому +51

    great job as usual. Horrifying. I forgot about the part they had a jet landing right behind them in low visibility thats nuts!!

    • @connieh.4212
      @connieh.4212 Рік тому +3

      That’s true, I hope the investigation pointed that out too.

  • @barbaramonaco105
    @barbaramonaco105 Рік тому +22

    Was surprised to learn something new about this notorious crash. Until now had no idea that a landing plane was bearing down on the Florida Air jet as it attempted to depart. Great detail, great job, Green Dot.

    • @juliemanarin4127
      @juliemanarin4127 11 місяців тому

      That was bad on ATCs part!

    • @user-bm7bd9rh2g
      @user-bm7bd9rh2g 11 місяців тому

      I read that DCA ptesently has only one active runway for takeoffs and landings.

  • @isbestlizard
    @isbestlizard Рік тому +12

    Rules are written in blood and this pilot was like 'lol stupid rule it's my plane and i want to reverse thrust it back so i will'

  • @dronepro7316
    @dronepro7316 Рік тому +8

    This channel has become a mainstay of my late night bedtime routine. Every night I watch one episode before going to sleep. I’m dreading the day when I’ve watched all the episodes♥️

  • @paulkita
    @paulkita Рік тому +25

    This is one of my favourite channels. Really hoping it "takes off"!

  • @ifeanyi212
    @ifeanyi212 Рік тому +30

    Such a sad story here, but again you tell it in the best way I've seen on UA-cam or TV. I thought the mix of actual audio was a really effective aspect aswell.

  • @greymark420
    @greymark420 Рік тому +5

    "Hearing without listening", very true indeed.

  • @patrickm.4754
    @patrickm.4754 Рік тому +10

    His narration down to the opening theme really keeps me coming back for more. Keep up the good work!

  • @abathens
    @abathens Рік тому +7

    I was 12 and at home on a snow day in Georgia when this happened. I was glued to the TV watching the news reports with my dad.

  • @OFilellinas
    @OFilellinas Рік тому +5

    I'm not normally into aviation at all but your videos are so captivating that I watched them all with great interest.

  • @Maggie-tr2kd
    @Maggie-tr2kd Рік тому +14

    I thought I was familiar with the details of this accident but I learned so many new facts on your video. Quite an excellent analysis. You have a great voice that is quite pleasant to listen to. I so appreciate it that you don't play music too loud in the background while you are speaking.

  • @voyaristika5673
    @voyaristika5673 Рік тому +19

    Does anyone know if this crash had a lot to do with the "captain always has the last word" rule? How awful for the first officer to have to just accept that the take off wouldn't be aborted when he knew it should. Also, I always wonder how survivors are affected forever by these horrible events. We never hear much about that.

    • @lisajeter9511
      @lisajeter9511 10 місяців тому +1

      It all came down to the de icing!

  • @nonamesplease6288
    @nonamesplease6288 Рік тому +10

    I lived in the DC area when this happened. I was a kid and schools were closed due to the heavy snow. I spent most of the day playing outside in the deep snow.
    My dad commuted to DC, but his commute took him out of the eastern side of the city, so he didn't see the crash or the aftermath. The government closed its offices early due to the weather and all of the government employees were on the road trying to get home. It's amazing more people weren't killed on the 14th Street Bridge. He heard about the crash on the car radio and rushed to the TV when he got home to see what happened. We were treated to live footage of survivors of the crash floating in the icy Potomac and the often heroic efforts to rescue them before it was too late. The image of a Park Police helicopter hovering close to the water with the crew standing on the skids trying to pluck freezing people from the water because they were too weak to hang on themselves will never be effaced from my memory.
    Those were tragic days for Washingtonians who at the time weren't used to such tragedies.

  • @theaceofspades485
    @theaceofspades485 Рік тому +4

    An earlier comment forced me to search this passenger up.
    *Arland D. Williams Jr.*
    wiki:
    After the crash on the bridge, the plane then continued forward and plunged into the freezing Potomac River. Soon only the tail section which had broken off remained afloat. Only 6 of the airliner's 79 occupants (74 passengers and 5 crew members) survived the initial crash and were able to escape the sinking plane in the middle of the ice-choked river.
    *One of six people to initially survive the crash, he helped the other five escape the sinking plane before he himself drowned.*
    - This damn there brought a tear to my eye. Legendary.

  • @t-banan
    @t-banan Рік тому +13

    By far the best aviation channel, please make 40+ minute videos!

    • @avishjha4030
      @avishjha4030 Рік тому +2

      I agree! Would love to see in depth versions!

    • @GreenDotAviation
      @GreenDotAviation  Рік тому +4

      Thank you so much ❤️ I'm aiming to expand my team this year so that I can make more in-depth videos.

  • @GameAlicornLuna
    @GameAlicornLuna 3 місяці тому +1

    I live in Cleveland and fly out of Hopkins all the time. We get legendary winters here so they really take de-icing seriously.

  • @antonferreira483
    @antonferreira483 Рік тому +5

    What a masterful storyteller. This is the very cream of the air disaster genre.

  • @milenkirilov9681
    @milenkirilov9681 Рік тому +5

    Every video on this channel is a masterpiece. I hope you have a successful 2023 with lots of new subscribers and Patreon supporters and keep bringing quality content to us!

  • @heftigman205
    @heftigman205 Рік тому +2

    Hello from Cork. Brilliant channel. I have binge watched all of your videos over the last 3 days. Keep up the great work.

  • @bethfrench9064
    @bethfrench9064 Рік тому +6

    My husband was the last car allowed across the southbound span of the 14th Street Bridge that day. Even though I’d been waiting in one of the bus tunnels at the Pentagon, I had no idea what was happening. It was snowing hard enough to muffle the sounds of the Arlington fire trucks that responded to the crash. By the time my husband reached the Pentagon, I’d been waiting in the tunnel for 5 hours.

  • @Mike12522
    @Mike12522 Рік тому +14

    In 1983, the helicopter pilot, Don Usher, and his aide, were awarded the Polaris Air Award.
    This is the world's highest, and rarest civil aviation award.
    They risked their lives making 3 or 4 return trips to the crash site, under terrible flying conditions, saving several lives.

  • @micheleshively8557
    @micheleshively8557 Рік тому +4

    Love this channel ❤️
    My Mama and I watched this harrowing tale on TV live, I'll never forget it. Haunting

  • @Matticitt
    @Matticitt Рік тому +9

    The sheer amount of mistakes by the captain is unbelievable. It's like they did everything to cause that crash.

  • @gosborg
    @gosborg Рік тому +14

    Very detailed and fascinating explanation of how the ice formed and accumulated on the wings. I always learn something new on this channel, even when it relates to a well known accident such as this.

    • @GreenDotAviation
      @GreenDotAviation  Рік тому +4

      I’m glad! More videos on the way 🙏🏼

    • @gosborg
      @gosborg Рік тому +3

      @@GreenDotAviation By all means, keep ‘em coming. I really appreciate your coverage and analysis of both the physical/technical factors and the human/psychological aspects that blend together to cause these incidents.

  • @commerce-usa
    @commerce-usa Рік тому +24

    So preventable under current rules. Even though tragic, so much gets learned from every aircraft crash that makes aviation safer. God rest the souls who perished and bless the government worker who risked his own life to save several of the survivors by plunging into the freezing waters of the Potomac river that day.

    • @Jabarri74
      @Jabarri74 Рік тому +8

      Probably also preventable under the rules back then too. Committed multiple acts of unsafe/ unprofessional action against company policy. For a final note taking off with dodgy EPR's sounds like an easy way to a big hot flaming mess, especially as the engines showed poor performance at the correct EPR setting.

  • @CaptainSmashProductions
    @CaptainSmashProductions Рік тому +4

    Dude the formatting on this channel is outstanding! Keep up the amazing work!

  • @johnblecker4206
    @johnblecker4206 Рік тому +4

    Parts of this were live on NY tv and the best part was when Lenny Skutnik jumps in and saves the lady about to drown and goes back to his car and drives home.

  • @richardneilan2392
    @richardneilan2392 5 місяців тому +1

    I remember this day so well. I was a senior in high school just outside of D.C. Although the weather was terrible, I insisted on going to my part-time job a few miles from home. After a quick stop at Roy Rogers for some food, my car wouldn't start. Me and the friend who was with me decided to walk the rest of the way. After trudging through the heavy snow for over an hour, we finally arrived at work. As soon as we walked in, co-workers told us that a plane had just crashed into the 14th Street Bridge. In the absence of a television, we listened to reports of the disaster on the radio. As I recall, the heavy snowfall continued into the night. In the days that followed I remember hearing that a radio personality (Howard Stern, perhaps?) made an on-air call to the Air Florida reservations line and asked, "How much is a ticket from D.C. to the 14th Street Bridge?" Heartless.

  • @mutegamingstuff9120
    @mutegamingstuff9120 11 місяців тому +2

    This now makes me thanful that, when I was leaving from fukuoka to seoul in January 2021, we waited an extra 30 minutes before leaving due to snow accumulation. When you don't understand it it's just annoying but long delays are usually made with your safety in mind.

  • @ljm.jft9722
    @ljm.jft9722 Рік тому +6

    My favourite channel love your videos✈️

  • @michaelmitchell9612
    @michaelmitchell9612 Рік тому +5

    All the pilots I flew with in my 26 yr's of military aviation maintenance & flight status I'm glad each of them always put the safety of the crew & aircraft first, (leaving nothing to chance). While the pilots didn’t have a lot of flight time in cold weather how could they forget their training, ICING should be foremost on any flight crews mind flying in these conditions. Sorry for this crew & the passengers. Thank you for another sad but detailed and thorough video. Safe flight & safe new year!

  • @williamglaser6577
    @williamglaser6577 Рік тому

    I had heard this accident presented on other channels. You give a much more detailed account. This allows a deeper understanding of events. Thanks very much.

  • @PRH123
    @PRH123 Рік тому +4

    It wasnt called Reagan airport at the time, it was called National Airport. I remember coming home (school was cancelled because of the snow)and watching the helicopter rescue attempts on live tv.

  • @goldplate3498
    @goldplate3498 Рік тому +2

    I visited DC during the winter and went to that bridge. Still gives me chills.

  • @aproudamerican2692
    @aproudamerican2692 Рік тому +30

    *🕊Rest In Peace🕊*
    to all those that had to loose their lives to make our flying experiences so much safer.
    *You did not die in vain.*

    • @jocu475
      @jocu475 10 місяців тому

      Lose*

  • @jaydubb71
    @jaydubb71 Рік тому +11

    1. In 1982, it was Washington National Airport. 2. It's pronounced "puh-tow-mick" river. I'm originally from DC and still live in the area. This was a really bad disaster. My grandmother literally just crossed the 14th street seconds before this plane crashed on the bridge.

    • @alexroselle
      @alexroselle Місяць тому

      It’s still Washington National Airport to me, I don’t recognize Reagan except in infamy

  • @thebadgerpilot
    @thebadgerpilot Рік тому +3

    Another fantastically detailed episode! I’ve seen this on TV and they only mention using the plane in front and missing the ice switch. No mention of the reverse thrust that I remember

  • @TheLfamily24
    @TheLfamily24 4 місяці тому +1

    That “we’re going down Larry” brings a tear to my eye seriously.

  • @pillettadoinswartsh4974
    @pillettadoinswartsh4974 Рік тому +4

    Good to have all this detail, not even knowing it to be the infamous flight.

  • @mrkipling2201
    @mrkipling2201 Місяць тому

    Speaking without thinking, and hearing without listening. That's a great way to sum up the captain especially.

  • @joshuaaaron125
    @joshuaaaron125 5 місяців тому +1

    “We’re going down Larry”
    “I know” 😢

  • @sursumcorda4164
    @sursumcorda4164 11 місяців тому +1

    Discovered the channel a few days ago and now binging avidly. Great quality of content, narrative, and editing. Only thing now is I have the weird feeling of having escaped a grim fate by luck each time I was a passenger on a plane 😅

  • @pillettadoinswartsh4974
    @pillettadoinswartsh4974 Рік тому +6

    The inadequate de-icing procedure aside, Flight 90 was the only one to crash that day. And, the only thing that would solve the idiocy of the flight crew, WAS the Feds.

  • @simont1108
    @simont1108 Рік тому +6

    Well presented sir. Even with my limited knowledge of aviation, I think the omission of engine de-icer deployment was the most critical.
    Having operated many machines with important information displays, in times of waiting you always scan all your settings and
    readouts to offset the "redundant" or oncoming "boredom" feeling. Most of the time I have done this "solo" so with someone else with you
    conversation would probably distract from that. Even with the ice on the wings etc. if they had taken off at correct speed to give ample lift
    the pilots would have had a much greater chance of staying airborne with compensatory actions.

    • @GreenDotAviation
      @GreenDotAviation  Рік тому +4

      Absolutely, the omission of the engine anti-ice was crucial - without it, the accident would not have occurred.

    • @simont1108
      @simont1108 Рік тому +2

      @@GreenDotAviation Thanks for the reply. we concur. Keep up the good work.

  • @djaneczko4
    @djaneczko4 Рік тому +2

    Ah, the Potomac crash. Too many mistakes. Incredible pilot of that helicopter!

  • @zebop917
    @zebop917 Рік тому +2

    Hardly seems possible that this was 40 years ago. I remember some of the news coverage like it was yesterday.

  • @oldmountainmarineandmetals9736

    I lived in Southern Md where I was born and raised about 40 miles as the crow flies from there and remember exactly what I was doing at the time of the crash.

  • @ianmatthewkline8279
    @ianmatthewkline8279 10 місяців тому

    I’ve been on a binge spree with your channel. I don’t know how I got here but your production value kept me here: not a pilot but I appreciate your coverage

  • @davidhutchinson5233
    @davidhutchinson5233 Рік тому +3

    I remember this when it happened. I was just a teenager then but it was tough watching the rescues. That's when I saw heroism in real time as it happened. I remember being blown away at those men jumping into ice cold water to rescue passengers.

  • @nicholasbutler153
    @nicholasbutler153 Рік тому +2

    "Deficient in departures, cruise, approaches and landings"
    So deficient in literally everything.

  • @donaldhall4823
    @donaldhall4823 Рік тому +2

    Tragic day in Washington DC that day I was 16 at the time & also the same day a Metro subway train derailed that day killing one person 🙏🏽🙏🏽

  • @alinaseerofficial
    @alinaseerofficial Рік тому +2

    You guys are doing great job... Highly appreciated

  • @jaroslavhorak2299
    @jaroslavhorak2299 2 місяці тому

    I am so glad I came across this channel! Your skills are superb, you obviously do extensive research into every episode, I love the detailed animations and feel that I am learning something every time. I also love the music! :) Although, wouldn't want to hear it in the cabin before take-off!

  • @AZ0986688
    @AZ0986688 Рік тому +4

    I remember the first documentary I saw about this crash as a little kid. I started crying when the narrator said that one lady had been blinded by jet fuel. I thought she was permanently blinded.
    And years later I was so happy to hear that it was only temporary blinding.:)😊

  • @Palmit_
    @Palmit_ Рік тому

    Thank you for another exceptional production. Very grateful. also, happy new year :)

  • @asilong9049
    @asilong9049 Рік тому

    I love these videos. The production value is great. Great animation and music soundtrack. Narrator's voice is so relaxing. So good.

  • @Dan-oj4iq
    @Dan-oj4iq Рік тому +8

    My very first flight ever was on a DC3 in April of 1950. Flight from New York to Miami. To this day I'm still not sure how it got there.

    • @Sashazur
      @Sashazur Рік тому

      The vast majority of flights, even back then, got to their destinations without incident. Was there anything unusual about your flight, like bad weather or maintenance problems?

    • @Dan-oj4iq
      @Dan-oj4iq Рік тому +1

      @@Sashazur Because it was 1950 the whole thing was unusual. Especially for a ten year old kid. You'd have to have flown in a DC3 to even begin to understand the differences in planes of today. I did have to use the barf bag supplied in the back of the seat in front of you. Flew back home in a DC7 which was like a Rolls Royce compared to the Chevy pickup truck of the DC3.

  • @mrluckyuncle
    @mrluckyuncle Рік тому +2

    As in your other videos you include details I have not heard elsewhere. Good job!

    • @augustusplays7896
      @augustusplays7896 Місяць тому

      Because he makes them up lol have you seen the Malaysian airlines video? Apparently he knows when they even took a deep breathe

  • @rixxroxxk1620
    @rixxroxxk1620 Рік тому +7

    I remember this very distinctly. Having lived in Baltimore during that snowstorm, this was huge news. Many do not remember but at the same exact time, the DC Metro had a crash at Union station if I recall correctly. This is why response was delayed. Can’t believe it’s been so long.

    • @deborahparrish2201
      @deborahparrish2201 Рік тому +1

      Right!!! I had missed the train that crashed and was highly upset (a little while). Eight died in that crash.

  • @chucheeness7817
    @chucheeness7817 Рік тому

    I love how the cases in this channel are re-enacted in a simulation. It illustrates a lot of circumstances and nuances in specific detail

  • @phillipberger2175
    @phillipberger2175 Рік тому +2

    I love love love your videos! Such good narration! Excellent and dramtic!

  • @ibrahimabdulaziz7818
    @ibrahimabdulaziz7818 Рік тому

    I highly recommend your channel to any aviator u guys are perfect!

  • @marcosgiacomelli
    @marcosgiacomelli 2 місяці тому

    This GreenDot guy is a master in storytelling! Love you baby.

  • @annabelle9063
    @annabelle9063 3 місяці тому

    I always used to watch air crash investigations (I think that’s it) as a kid with my dad. I love the show but I’m already afraid of flying and every time I got on a plane I would instantly remember the really realistic way they would show the crashes, so I avoid it at all costs. This is just as interesting but doesn’t give me anxiety lol thank you! Just found your channel a week ago !

  • @BlindBlue196
    @BlindBlue196 Рік тому +1

    Brilliant channel thankyou 4 all the hard work u and ur team do keep up the great work 😃

  • @puthenveetilnoel
    @puthenveetilnoel 3 місяці тому

    The flight attendant enjoying seeing the snowy weather is such a sad detail.
    Great video as usual.

  • @jasonpauljones7295
    @jasonpauljones7295 Рік тому +2

    Good day Green Dot Aviation. Your narration is on point and knowledgeable. The best aircraft videos on UA-cam.

    • @GreenDotAviation
      @GreenDotAviation  Рік тому

      Much appreciated! ❤️

    • @chairlesnicol672
      @chairlesnicol672 Рік тому

      JASON PAUL JONES Ok it's not a "trust" lever it's a "THRUST" ONE It's not a treht but a "threat"! So for narration pronunciation I could only give u a "tree"" out of 10 !

  • @tommyd4829
    @tommyd4829 Рік тому

    Excellent channel my man!! Really is !! Love the sound track as well.. good work

  • @teodelfuego
    @teodelfuego Рік тому +1

    I’m only a few minutes in and I have to note how good the background music is. Narrators voice is good too

  • @jamesginger7504
    @jamesginger7504 Рік тому

    Found a new aviation crash investigation channel, hell yeah! Subscribed.

  • @sawahtb
    @sawahtb Рік тому +2

    It's hard to bale on a scheduled flight when you can't prove that you'd die if you didn't.