Restoring a 100 Year Old Hand Stanley Hand Plane - Essential Woodworking Skills
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- Опубліковано 5 вер 2024
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In this woodworking skills video we restore a 100 year old Stanley Bailey #3 Hand Plane. If you want to date your handplane using the patent date on the bed, just behind the frog. Check out this website here www.hyperkitten... Thanks for watching! Please like, comment and subscribe. Cheers!
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Nice job on that. I like the fact that you didn’t get carried away on the restoration. Just get it back to where it works as it should. Thanks
Just acquired a vintage Bailey #5 that I’m going to restore. Love seeing folks that appreciate old world craftsmanship
I used to ignore tools like this all the time at garage sales. Now I look for them. Deals abound. Turned out great. Also, amazing edit.
Thanks brother!
Jonathan no disrespect or insult intended but I was shocked to see that you didn't re-flatten the body.
Also, why did we paint the rosewood black?
It's very satisfying!
I found an old Stanley #5 and restored it - now it's my favorite plane.
So much fun
The only thing I love more than woodworking is restoring antique tools. I like to try to leave the original japaning but will repaint if it’s in rough shape. The hammered finish paints look great. Shiny black just don’t look right on old tools to me. Thanks for the video 👍🏼
Cheers bud!
I’ve made some japaning, and restored two planes using it. It just takes forever to get to the point I could use them. Had to let them sit a couple weeks, then bake them. It came out nice, but ...eh. Lots of work, when you can just paint it and be done with it.
(Gilsonite asphaltum powder 1/4lbs from eBay- $8, then petroleum based solvent like naphtha & xylenes, and boiled linseed oil from where ever... I think I added some shellac flakes in my mix as well)
@@joshuas1767 yea that sounds out of my patience level
Joshua Scarlett that’s awesome
Today i found a 1948-61 Stanley No.4 plane in a second hand tool shop for £15. I have never had or restored a hand plane before so thanks for the video. Will be following closely.
PERFECT Timing! I just picked up a 3 just like that one on Ebay that I'm gonna restore. I love the idea of using hand tools more. Thanks!!
You got it Craig
Nice video. I have a whole collection of old working Stanley handplanes that I use regularly from #2 thru #8. I have restored all of them. I found using Phosphoric acid (Krudcutter from the big box) as a super quick method of removing any and all rust quickly. Just tank the parts for a few hours and done. There is a certain satisfaction in using old iron once used by old craftsmen.
Good advice and totally agree!
Just bought a bailey no. 5 1/2 at the place I work at on the weekends (I sharpen knives, tools, swords, etc. At a flee market sort of place). I'm restoring it right now. I've got the screws, frog, chip breaker, and iron in some vinegar right now. Going to probably flatten the bottom of the body on my belt sander (it's just a bit big to do it with sandpaper like I would normally.).
Yours came out great. It's going a lot faster than mine is lol.
a saw file fits nicely into those corrugated groves on the sole to knock stubborn rust out
Goodness man-you’re restoring an old tool this is not a music video.
I bought one for 3.00 at a yard sale it was all painted yellow, I’m going to restore it, the rosewood is beautiful
Great fun isn't it?
And addictive...
today in the shop we were looking at a couple of Stanley Bailey #7s. Beautiful big beasts and they're next on the list for restoration and pressing back into use.
I have a 6 and 7. So awesome!
Katz, lucky to have witnessed the restoration of 100 years old planer 😊👌enjoyed watching Sir😊
I'm starting a new dig. Cigar box guitar's. My dad just gave me this exact plane. In mint condition.
That’s a beautiful rosewood handle....spray paints it black
It's lacquered you knucklehead haha
Aw, I got called knucklehead! I really ought to pay more attention, huh?
Thanks for asking Terri. I just watched and wondered the same thing! I was all "where did the rosewood go?!!"
THANK YOU...for sharing. Nice.
I have two planers that were handed down to me, one is a Shelton No. 14 and the other is a Stanley, both are the same length and configuration. The Stanley needs a new knob and handle (literally missing both) and the Shelton's handle is broken but might be repairable or serve as a template, both however need to be restored just like in your video. Thanks a lot really enjoy your content. Greetings from Arroyo in the southeast coast of Puerto Rico. Blessings.
1st, great video! 2nd, somebody commented that it’s not actually 100 years old… well I think they’re correct, but I’d say Jonathan is close enough to use that phrase for the video - artistic freedoms and all.
Based on what we can see in the video (at time 3:25 you can partially see the bed of the plane as he’s taping it before painting), it looks like there is just one patent date stamped there, which likely makes it either a Type 13 or 14.
There is no raised ring surrounding the knob receiver screw hole, which (based on the Type Studies out there) leads me to believe it’s a Type 13 (1925-1928).
With an age between 1925 and 1928, I’d say it’s close enough to call it 100 years. After all, close enough counts for horseshoes, hand grenades… and hand planes, unless you’re worried about a museum collector/appraiser opinion I guess.
Here’s a good flow chart for dating old Stanley hand planes based on old type studies:
www.popularwoodworking.com/wp-content/uploads/pdatechart.pdf
That came out great! I've never done this but now I want to!
Stay passionate and restore something! Thanks bud!
Do it! I've restored 3 now and I really enjoy it. It's cheaper than buying a new Lie Nielsen (which are beautiful and worthy of your money) and will work just as well. I've got a Bedrock 604 patiently waiting for me to finish remodeling my basement so I can get to work on it. Restoring hand planes is one of those things where you really get back what you put into it. Unless the tool has massive rust pitting, you can make them look and work better than new.
It only took one for me to get hooked. You won't regret it. It's so rewarding in the end.
How funny! I was just given, by a good friend, his granfathers Bailey No 3...lol!
How did you chuck up the knob for sanding??
Nice !! D you know what steel the sole is Made of?
I always thought W vinegar a no no.
It is.
I bought a new block plane earlier this year, looked at a Stanley and what a pile of pants that thing was talk about tacky looking, bought a Luban block plane for a lot less money and what a little belter it is too, well worth the money !! Also have an older Stanley No5 which is a lovely plane by the way, must say Stanley seems to have lost its way on quality in recent years. Great Reno job on the No3 came out fantastic 👍👍👍
I don’t remember the colour of the tote and front knob recoating colour being highlighted, however a contributor has mentioned Rosewood.
I was given a rusty and dirty Stanley Bailey #4 plane. I cleaned it up and bought a Rob Crossman blade and chip breaker. The point is my brother says “ why would you put a $90 blade on an old plane.” If you have to ask, you won’t understand. I just love the Rosewood.
Hahaha true
No flattening needed? Just curious as to why
Clamping the knob to a power drill…. What a brilliant idea that seems like one of those “duh” moments
Just a couple weeks ago I did 3 of my grandfathers, and one of my dads hand planes in the exact same way. I need an angle guide to sharpen them. But my favorite one was this tiny little shoulder plane. It's so small it can fit in my palm. Never seen anything like it. But even being so old and rusted, it still had a usable edge to it. I totally agree with the satisfaction that comes from doing a restoration like this. Especially when there is sentimental value in the piece your working on. Love this video
Another kick ass video! Headed to Ebay to buy another plane haha.
Hahaha go get em'
Nice video. While I agree on getting new tools most of the time because I want to work with them not have another project I have bought used planes. Our woodworking association sponsors a old tool swap meet and I’ve found two planes in wonderful condition there at very reasonable prices. The Stanley lo angle block plane I found was fully sharpened and cut perfectly when I bought it. The Stanley Bailey number 4 just needed to be sharpened a little. Neither plane had any rust.
Those are some great finds
I used to work in a machine shop, yes steel wool works, but you know what lapping is the sol of a plane should be flat from heel to toe. So I object to using a random orbital sander, what is a better idea if work off a flat surface a marble countertop or just the sinks cut out is very flat, use some wiring sticks on one and see if it flat without a bow in it.
You shouldn't see any light pass under your stright edge, now take a full sheet of emry cloth or wet sanding paper spray glue it down or use some with an adhesive backing make dure the marble or stone surface is clean you can also use a thin film of oil to stick it down.
Now you can pass the plane sol over as well as the sides untill its smooth yes al old plane might have a few pits but your using the whole bottom to guide your cut.
Pass it over this untill its clean use oil on the paper to help remove dirt.
This will restore the working surface, on your fluted bottom plane you can wire brush it. Or you can do electrosis to remove the rust using low voltage and a dissimilar metals then hone the sides and bottom. Some guys use the sand paper to sharpen planes and chizzels without tools but by hand.
A grinder is going to put 2 high spots and bevel on the cutting edge it may have to sharp an edge to hold it this way becuse the cutting edge has been weakened by the bevel shape. Then agine it might cut better. The Japanese have gotten sharpening tools down to an art. There joinery is a lot tighter tolerances.
We slap 4 side togather and call it a day they mill it to a persice fit.
Craftsmanship in Japan was an art beyond woodworking.
Not to cut down traditional woodworking but some of the joints Japanese woodworkers do is beyond anything you see done in America up untill the eairly 1900s and beyond ever see a Japanese puzzle box the joints are seemless.
You can look at it for hours before you figure it out and then you've got to close it. One guy shows how to sharpen disposable planer blades.
The wonderful thong about these old planes is that A brand new thicker blade from Lee Valley Veritus planes are available
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You can always support me on Patreon, click on of my Amazon links before you buys anything or best of all buy something from my website store. Thanks bud!
Very nice. Always great videos...cheers...rr
Thanks Richard!
Did it show u flattening the sole? I may had missed it
It was still very flat so I didn't need to
Ahhhh 10-4
Jonathan, I want a Jointer plane. A new Stanley No 7 is $107.00 on Amazon. An old Stanley No 7 goes from over $100.00 up to $200.00 and I still need to restore it. Would buying oils and restoring give me a better every day user, or would I be better served buying new? Thanks?
Can that multi purpose oil prevent rust on new hand planes? Should I wipe them down with oil regularly after use?
Great restoration video. Got a video idea for you. I know you've mentioned on podcasts before that you are in the Christmas Light business, don't know if you still are? Would love to see a video on this topic. I know it might not be woodworking related, but didn't know if you had a way to tie the two together. For all us xmas nerds out there.
Yea that's actually in the works. If you search my names and Christmas lights on UA-cam you'll find a video on the channel noozehawk. Let me know what you think
@@katzmosestools That was perfect! Just watched it. Would definitely love to see more of that for sure. The paint roller bent over is awesome. Really looking forward to it if you get a chance. Would love an intro to light controllers too just another idea. 😁👍
Great job!
Am I seeing new dust collection system?
Yep
Congratulations!
Mine is painted blue. Will the vinegar remove the paint? If so should I just roll with it?
I bought a rejected plane from grizzly tools 2 bucks its bottom wasnt flat but after about an hour when I got done it was flat and squar using what I said below this.
I'm just curious what you used for paint and lacquer? Great video, I'm about to restore a Stanley no. 5 of around the same vintage.
Me too!!
What was the spray you used on the handles?
I been thinking about getting the Tormac T8 . I watched there videos and I was wandering, are they really that good and do you recommend them ? Thank you Mr. Moses 😎
The freaking biggest game changer ever. I actually sharpen now. So so so fast to get a razor sharp edge
How did he get the STANLEY letters to remain steel colored after he went over it with red spray paint?
How did you remove the paint before you re-finished?
On another subject any word of delivery on the back ordered Universal No Deflection Stop Block
thx
Yea bud. Talking to manufacturer today for an update. Send me an email
You should build your own plane.
Definitely on my list
Its is on my list as well.
Not gonna lie that Tormek gave me a bit of a chubby. Literally have a bailey No.3 I am looking to clean up in front of me. This was the first hit in my search "old wood plane revival" and it's the plane I have here. I got mine at a flea market for $12 CD.
Nicely done
Oh no, vinegar.
Have you ever used Evapo-rust instead of vinegar?
Never heard of it. I'll check it out. Thanks
@@katzmosestools check out Hand Tool Rescue. I love his videos.
I've used both. Evapo-rust brought back an antique pipe wrench that was locked up with rust to looking brand new. One thing about Evapo-rust is that it leaves a black residue where the rust was. Mostly that can be wiped or buffed off but if you have any pitting from the rust it really is hard to get rid of. Vinegar will just leave the pitting with the metal color. For a working tool I don't really mind the black but if you want to make a show piece you may want to keep it in mind. Both vinegar and Evapo-rust are environmentally-friendly and can be poured out when used up.
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I'm not sure I understand your question
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Use japaninng instead of paint
Good job. Crappy annoying background 'music'.
This plane is not a 100 years old :) Having not seen all the details on it, it might be as early as 1925, but not earlier :) By the looks of it a type 13. Still a great plane and video 👍 www.timetestedtools.net/2016/01/27/stanley-type-13/
Very useful video. I inherited a #3 and wondering if you lower the value by restoring it to its new state and sharpening blade, cleaning up wood handles, etc. Anyone know?
fyi - music on a DIY, demo, tour, cooking, or wildlife video is extremely stressful to the viewer and hurts the ears. Let me rephrase that. It is insanely irritating and provokes a violent and angry response from me as a viewer. I'm trying to be polite, but you need to understand that you are forcing your brand of obnoxious rock music with clapping and banshee wailing into my ear drums. I came to see a restoration but I am forced to listen to this obscene level of noise. Why? It is not bringing you more viewers but chasing them away. It is a net zero and it subtracts from the value of the video into the minus side. Unwatchable due to music. I'm tired of having to guess when you will speak and when you will flood my ears with this savage level os noise and this is stressing me out!
If you're going to restore something don't do it half ass and Skip stuff clean the screws clean the screw holes clean everything because taking apart cleaning everything getting all the rest out of there and then put it all back together and there's a couple spots that you skipped with rust how stupid is that the whole point of taking it apart and cleaning it was to clean everything elite rust on their it's going to keep rusting the rust doesn't magically stop I was taught do it right or don't do it at all
Style over substance. Flashy editing but you don't tell us anything you're doing during your b-roll montage. I hardly learned anything
Labor of love? You barely worked for it. Your power tools did all of the work.
Hahahaha bitter this morning
Haha yeah sorry! Long night, five kids, and no shop time since I started my shop three months ago. Disgruntled carpenter lol
Make something the house "needs" that should get you some shop time. Cheers bud! Keep your head up
Haha thanks man! Unfortunately, what the house needs is in the house being worked on lol...another bedroom