It's easy for people to say that Will is a 'Troll' but maybe he's a beginner, whose skill fell short of the task. We *all* started somewhere and Rex's kindness, knowledge and skill demonstrates that constructive criticism is better then abuse. Erring on the side of belief in people (whilst not being naïve) has helped me enormously during my life - and proven that there's far more Good in the World then Bad.
Though I felt that maybe this was someone trolling Rex; as a former teacher, it also occurred to me that it could be someone who really did not know or understand because they are new to this realm. Well done Rex! 😊
Excellent point. The fact of the matter is that Rex went above and beyond to provide Will with a tool he could use. Made for a great video, but a better act of kindness.
We have a saying here in Croatia. When someone sees your 'fly malfunction' they say: your store is open. And then you reply: no matter, as long as the boss is inside. Great restoration as always Rex! 😉♥️
My first attempt at restoration was an off brand. Did everything in your videos and the Paul Sellers videos. Then noticed the line, "sometimes it's just a bad plane." Tried another plane and it came out beautifully. I love your videos, thanks for all the help.
Love the idea of that not for profit. I went on a 6 month stress leave after suffering through 4 years of depression. I spent the vast majority of my time off in my garage mucking about with wood. I even started restoring a piece of junk hand plane, I think. I came to channels like this for community and inspiration. I found a lot of healing in making things, experimenting, gaining new skills, and just having something to putter away at (never underestimate the power of puttering). Thanks Rex for supporting a cause like this, and for providing great content to help people through tough times.
Great demonstration! The two facts that I got from the video are: 1. Success is attainable 2. It's probably going to be more work than you think. These apply to almost everything in life.
My wife often wondered why it took me several days to build and finish a project. That was until we had to to redo the deck and she realized the work involved. Then I reminded her we didn't even have to sand it or put a finish on it yet. Now I can buy any tool I want lol
If there was an award for most credulous restoration personnel, you would win. Hands down. I love that you saw what seems to my cynical self as a level 4 troll extravaganza - and just went head down, full steam ahead on the diligence. Nicely done. Cheers!
Near the beginning of my journey I traded 2 bags of veggies from my garden for a #5 (I think) Stanley jack plane. I planed an entire 12 foot long by 12 inch wide rough cut pine board with it and promptly went out and bought a DW735 thickness planer. I've been mainly working oak for a while now and I'd have worked myself into the grave if I planed all that oak by hand. Ty for the video! Special place in my heart for hand tool people :)
🍻 I divide hobbyists into two categories, "process" people and "results" people. A friend of mine is a process person. He'll buy an old car and take maybe a year to restore it to show condition. Then he proudly drives it around for a few months and takes it to shows. Then he gets bored, sells it, buys another piece of junk, and starts the whole process again. He's happier doing the restoration than actually driving the car. I just want to get on with it.
Rex…Hats off to you for 30 minutes continuous flattening! I m restoring a really nice British plane at the moment. A Record #4 1/2 Doing the flattening in bursts of 100 strokes up and down the paper. Longest continuous I’ve got up go is 300 a few times and I found that really tiring at my age (67). I’m at a total now of 10,200 strokes and I still haven’t quite got rid of a tiny dip centred on the middle of the mouth. Slowly slowly improving. Keep on thinking enough is enough but can’t quite let myself try it out on wood again when there’s still the possibility that I can get it perfect. I must get round to remembering that perfection is the arch enemy of the good!
Hi! Curious what grit sand paper you used. You can start with something more aggressive like 60 grit. Then move up to finer grits. (I’m guessing you started off with something too fine like 120 or higher ). Hope this helps.
Hi Robert. I started and have continued with 60 grit. I tried flipping the glass and used the 100 I’d stuck there thinking it would be fresher but it did less than the 60 despite it’s heavy usage
Trolling or no trolling. I surely enjoyed this video. Educational, laughed a bit and - a lot at some of the comments. But most of all, I gained Extra Appreciation for Rex. Like some comments read, "Rex is a good man..." Thank You very much Rex. 👍🏻👋🏻
Rex I’m glad you took will seriously and the video was instructive in that all the parts have to work synchronously. Like an orchestra- each component represents a section.
Watching this video puts me in mind of how happy and pleased with myself I felt when I learned to settle a plane. (professional carpenter, here) Forty plus years later, I still get a charge out of using my jack plane, my favourite of all my woodworking tools. Thank you, Rex, for all the very good videos ❤
I feel like you got trolled Rex. He's saying he did everything that the videos recommend and yet everything that could possibly be wrong with that is wrong with it.
And despite the bad condition of the plane, Rex got it working. He put his time and energy where his "mouth" (course) is and showed us that even that basket case of a plane could be restored. Granted, some parts had to be replaced, but that was part of the restoration process. Not all original parts are salvageable.
Even then, the original parts could've worked ok. The handles are just ergonomics, and the blade could've been bent into close enough to learn with. It's just better with the replacements
Rex, been a big fan for a couple years. If nothing else, this video teaches patience, to ask for help, and that many of us in the hobby LOVE to help others. Well done.
I thought it was a perfect way to encourage people who don't know what they're doing. We already have enough American Idol knock-off shows to go around.
@braveworld2707 there's a difference in being perfect at everything in life and not wasting yours and others time. Ever heard of "if youre gonna do something, might as well do it right," will never has. It's unbelievable that will watched anything and came to this end result. I could've sat my ten year old son down, had him watch resto vids for an hour and he would've done a much better job then this monstrosity. Will is the kind of guy that can't do anything right because he doesnt want to put effort into anything.
Rex, when lapping a severely rusted plane (or re-surfacing the flat of a plane iron), try starting with 36G Garnet. As the grit eventually wears, it breaks down to a surprisingly fine cutting attack, like 120G, or even finer. This saves an astonishing amount of time both in the rough grinding *and* the smooth finishing. Also, it may not be easier, but holding the plane backward, thumbs on the cap iron, while lapping the sole makes it less likely that you'll 'round' the bottom from edge to edge, like you might tend to do while bearing the hell down on the handles...
Ill agree Rex. The sound of your first restored hand place taking a ribbon, is addicting. My first was a Craftsman 4 by Sargent. Honestly the only plane I've bought new is a Stanley low angle jack, and its my shooting plane. All the rest (and most of my other tools for that matter have been restored from fleas, Ebay, and garage sales. I enjoy restoring the tools just as much as using them.
As a Brit, I'm used to 'tote' (American English) meaning 'to carry', the meaning of 'tote' meaning 'handle' may be traditional, but it's new to me. No complaint, just an observation. Well done, Rex, for restoring Will's plane. You give a great learning experience.
I have just found Plane Wellness, and as someone living with ASD in the times before when autism was only the non verbal people 🤷♂ but woodwork and especially woodturning is how I got through the last 40+ years, but back to plane wellness, I am in the UK, and although they are not able to help with materials and tools for anyone outside of the mainland US, they do offer the courses, and with help towards the cost, which I really wasn't expecting when I sent the first email, but Jamie was wonderful to talk to, and lookin g forward to my first course with then early in 2025 😀
I agree with all those who have said that if you are going to err about the nature of human beings it's always best to err in their favor. Given the evidence we have there's no absolute way to know if Will was trolling. Its incredulous, sure, maybe even bordering on unbelievable, but barring a confession the shadow of doubt remains. He may have tried. He may have needed help. I admire Rex for taking the project seriously, making one of the better restoration videos I've seen and giving the man the benefit of the doubt. Dont worry about it, Rex. The man's intention is totally seperate from your response. It doesnt matter. When someone asks for help and you can give it, give it. To deny your help due to being tainted by unscrupulous people and then to be wrong...well, that just puts you in the wrong camp. Kindness and treating others with respect is always the right thing to do.
I'm dead certain I've set more steel rivets than anyone here and most of them involved a modified tack hammer. A tiny cross pein would have worked here too - you can get it bitten down on either side so it stays put and frees up that hand to hold the punch to set it properly.
A ball peen hammer will drive a nail. I haven't found anything a bell peen can't hammer. They're a popular mid range goto for me when it comes to bashing stuff around some. I even peen with them sometimes too. Peening is a very relaxing activity. I usually use a nail as a rivet.
@@1pcfred A claw hammer is for nails and ball peen is for fine metal work. When you use a ball peen hammer to hammer nails you leave a small indentation on the face of the hammer and when you use that hammer you for fine metal work it leaves marks on your metal. If you need a small hammer use a tack hammer or a joiners hammer.
@@stevekelley1179 I'm not much for fine metalwork. I don't have the patience for it. When something is mangled enough for me to be working on it I'm just going to get it back into the rough shape it's supposed to be. Small indentations will be the least of concerns then. That's what plastic filler was made for.
@@1pcfred when I was a kid. I took my father’s ball peen hammer and used it to build a treehouse. And I got my butt wiped. He was a machinist and that’s were I learned the difference between hammers.
Thanks for telling us about your experience restoring your first plane. I have been restoring my first plane recently and have been at it for hours. Started by trying to make a Harbor Freight plane usable and got a vintage Stanley when I couldn't do it. It is reassuring that, what I feel is slow progress, is normal.
Well, Will. That is the most Frankenstein /Zombie apocalypse plane that has ever been. It had loads of character and charm. It was definitely a head of its time. New TV show,Pimp My Plane
Rex...youve been had, buddy. Time to put the hand plane down. You do not want to open the flood gates on randos sending you scrap being like "I tried really hard, can you turn this into a hand plane for me??"
Cool video! Question: why didn’t you deal with the frog’s flatness before you reattached the lateral adjustment lever? Wouldn’t it have been easier to do so with it detached? Also, it really looks like your friend made almost no effort to fix it before sending it to you. Those odd handles/totes make it look like he was pranking you.
You’re a good man, Rex. If nothing else this is a most excellent demo. One does not want to disparage, Will, but either he is a troll as has been suggested elsewhere, or he doesn’t have a clue about tools - not even a scintilla of a hint of the most infinitesimally small thought of a clue. It’s not a sin to be clueless about tools; many people aren’t. So, you are very charitable and I commend you for that!
Beautifully done Rex, nice job. I think Will just didnt realise how much there is to refurbishing a basically stuffed plane, but that came out superb... And now he has a cracking version to base any further refurbishments on. Thanks for sharing .
Rex did amazing work here, so let's lead with that. Secondly, if Will is not being a troll, I'd love to see him post here and explain why he clearly didn't follow Rex's advice from the other videos as he claimed; at the very least, the sole should have been flattened and clearly it was not even touched. It really does feel like trolling, but Rex did a masterful job of turning it into a teaching opportunity for the audience.
just got almost identical plane for restoration (so far looks to be in a bit better condition though), your video will be a a huge help for me in restoring it, huge thanks!
I have a Marples 404 (equivalent to stanley no4) hand plane. All original. I don’t know what it is, but it is the nicest hand plane that I have ever used and I have used many different brands over the years. The blade holds an edge better than any Stanley that I have owned and it is so comfortable that I can plane for hours without getting tired or having a hand cramp. I took it to a friend of mine who sells veritas and Lee Nielsen planes and he preferred the Marples. It is honestly the last tool that I would ever sell for any reason.
Your a good man for doing this your throwing some kindness into someone’s world bravo 👏 your intentions is all that matter here. Looks like a Shinto rasp handle
Nice video Rex, thank you for it! I have reworked brand new Stanley Bailey No 4.5 few days ago. TBH, i was kinda amazed how this one got through final inspection. Body was twisted, bowed and crooked. But the main problem was those two holes at back of the frog being 3 mm off center. Frog itself was machined out of square too. I have milled entire body and frog, milled those two holes in the right spot (i have used oversized screws), smoothed everything, reassembled, properly adjusted and now i have finaly plane able to produce paper thin shavings. Well, i was not expecting much for the price, but this was reall bummer.
Troll or real, Rex here shows us what a kind guy he is, how to capitalize (in a good way) of situations and all us "visualizations" learnt valuable lessons and got a friendly encouragement. A perfect example of the old "If life gives you lemons..." keep up the good work Rex, I cannot wait to finish my house renovation to take my used plane I bought and fix it up
3:52 that proves to me it’s NOT a troll. Also, that would be the sole reason it cannot take a shaving. The depth adjuster, attached to the yoke, engaged with the chip breaker, will do nothing without a screw holding the chip breaker to the blade
What is it about restoring wood planes that’s so satisfying both to do and to watch? This little, functional, aesthetically pleasing machine, a mixture of metal and wood…
It also took me about a year to get my first hand plane to make a good shaving. It was like the clouds parted and I could see clearly finally. Didn’t know what I was missing. Similar experience with sharpening a hand saw. Similar experience with really any other skill I’ve learned. We all suck until we figure out what we’re doing. I think that’s what makes it feel so much more rewarding when we see good results.
Here in France metal planes are not easy to find in flea market or garage sales. Most of the time professional sellers buy them, quickly brush them to remove most of the rust and try to sell them for an absolute non descente price. So it's absolutely necessary to know exactly what to check before buying one. Thank's to you and your videos I was able to buy an Esteel n°4 in really good condition, finish the restoration and now I use it every single day. Had to be patient to find it, have seen a lot of garbage shiny metal piece sold for 50€ I didn't buy. So I wanna thank you to help me save my money and time by being informed and patient about metal planes!
Planes are getting harder to find here too. Years ago they were a lot more commonplace. Sometimes people will ask too much for them too. But I have gotten some good deals.
These videos actually help. There were these God awful block planes being sold at traveling tool sale. They said Stanley, but damn the looked bad. Three parts only. I flatten the sole. Shaped the blade Works fine. Still use it.
***** but I will agree with what you said... AND I love the website you spoke of. I'm a disabled Vet, one of my dianoses's is nightmares-i do find woodworking a large help, i mostly do carving-cottonwood bark mostly. I will be checking out the website you mentioned-thanks
Thank you once again, Rex! Your plans restoration videos have been so helpful at getting my skills up enough to get a few planes restored now. That lineup most recently includes a very sketchy Stanly Defiance that chatters like an angry squirrel when I go to face plane. With this video, I realize there are a few things I haven't looked at on it, yet. Time to go take it apart again!
Or the whole thing is an exercise in trolling us by Will with pretend narrative. Notice that every part of the project starting with the packing was wrong. Waste of my time so I cut it short.
I hope some other UA-camrs heard Rex when he said, " Any idiot can edge plane." So many videos where the author is doing just that and bragging how wonderful his plane is.
Plane restoration is a little addictive. You need to watch yourself, or you discover that you have actually collected a number of orphans. I was really happy to hear about Marples and Sons making planes. One of my first chisels, a socketed 3/4-inch form with a wooden handle, was a Marples. It originally came to my dad from my grandfather, and it easily has some of the best blade steel I have ever sharpened. I have only been able to find one other example of that series (early 20th century), a half-inch. They are far and away my favorites. Then there are handsaws, back saws, ... Before you know, you have a collection, when you simply wanted to put together an inexpensive set of tools.
@@orbitalair2103 I just, mostly, stopped collecting. Every plane I have is usable. One of the "gotchas" of the internet is that simply because something is offered as a part, doesn't mean it will be a useful part, even if it looks good in photos. You need to be able to handle the part before you buy it.
I really enjoy you sharing the majority of the process. You could have just shown the plane as received and then reworked and we wouldn’t have learned nearly as much. Thanks for being humble enough to share the failures as well👍🏻
I love it when I can give Rex a tip lol I have had to peen over many bits of metal and different metals for numerous projects. Sometimes red hot. I learned to not try to do this with only one or two hits; but especially with softer metals, or red hot. If you hit your rivets hard, you can bend or mushroom the part where you don't need or want it bent. If you do light taps, you will not bend the rivet but just make successive dents, that only mushroom the end where you are hitting it. I used to repair digital and mechanical scales, some had brass weights with brass bolts through them. The bolt ends needed to be peened over, and it would only take one hard hit with a hammer and the bolt is bent and needs to be replaced, or removed and straightened. I always used a small hammer and light taps and never had an issue. Takes a minute or so longer, but does a better job. Steel isn't so easy to bend but it does! Sometimes I need to make a "bolt". I will take a length of threaded stock and either put a couple nuts on it and clamp, or wrap with cloth and clamp in vise. Tap tap tap with a small ball/peen hammer on the end, and in a minute you will not be able to back a nut off that end.... making a "bolt". Will not damage the nuts or bend the threaded stock, using light taps on the end. FYI
I really enjoy watching all of your videos... I am not a computer literate person, I haven't figured out the patreon thing, I'll have to have tech support team (my kids) teach me. I have been collecting alot of old wooden and steel planes. Most I've cleaned up but still can't use them very well....
A big point for making sure something like a hand plane is well packaged for transit such that it can't bounce around in its box, it is for the benefit of the box and everything around it...
Was just about to say the same thing. I don't mind if he fibbed about it and just set up a piece to work over on camera. Was a good video and a great way to bring up the wellness peoples.
It is cool to see you reattach the lateral adjustment lever. I just did that myself for the first time on a franken-#5. Easier to flatten a frog before that step though. 😅
Nice helpful video for a broad overview, showing that you can “make a a silk purse out of a sow’s ear.” My dad passed along a personalized PEXTO “bottle cap adjuster” plane to me. Not sure about the full story on it, he had a lot of tools stolen out of his garage, and this may have been a replacement that was surplus to his needs as he got nicer replacement tools. ROUGH casting, stamped sheet metal frog, ugly furniture, mucho slack in the adjuster, etc. Comments about the plane are universally negative, but, with a lot of tweaking, I have actually got it to work fairly well, and I learned A LOT about fixing and tuning planes from that project. I love me a nice Type 11 Stanley, but there are some third-world craftsmen out there that work wonders with a block of scrap lumber, a piece of car leaf-spring, and some sort of wedge tapped in with a hammer, because that is all that they have.
Hi Rex. I really enjoy all your video's. My dad had a huge collection of Planes & when he passed I wasn't in a position to take them, Now I'm sick that I didn't because now that I'm doing woodworking I wish I had them. But my Question is have you done any video's on the Victor 1104 made by Stanley I just picked one up from a flee market & it needs a little love, I payed just under $20 for it & it seems in decent enough condition. I have figured out that it was made in 1953 as long as what I found was correct. It has a red frog. do you have any opinions on the Victor? thanks for your Videos'' they are very informative & helpful.
love your vids. i do vintage tool restoration as a hobby. got a sandblaster, vibra tumbler air compressor hand and power tools, but i started in welding and metal sculpting. love all hand tools and still need a saw toothsetter. sucks being disabled and on a fixed income. wish i could make money just fixing old tools. i hate most tool resto vids. 90% of youtubers suck at restos. also wish i had more tools to fix. now that i have an S22 phone and an old but decent camers, i could do vids. if i only had a brai... er video editor. 😋
Great video, that covered a few things ( ok, many things!) that I knew nothing, or 5% more than nothing, about... I have some old planes from my Dad's tools, and from my former landlord, Fritz Thomas, who was at: "the Deutsches Museum from 1950 to 1988. With great commitment and love for the subject, he worked for the Deutsches Museum as head of the musical instruments department and the model-making workshop and left his mark on it. Even in retirement, he remained closely connected to the museum." Wooden, European planes, some appear to be quite "special purpose"... Have you any experience with European or Japanese planes?
Plane Collector on UA-cam has a video from 6 years ago called Busted, where he laps the soles of two planes with and without the parts to show what the difference is. He also explains where he believes that cracks in the mouth come from. It might be worth a watch. After I saw it, I personally have lapped a couple of planes without the parts that I currently use, that have absolutely no issues. But I think a video from you with your opinion would be great.
Bought an old but nice looking Stanley 41/2 today. Quick ink and sand and got exactly the same problem as the Record plane I commented on earlier only over a bigger area😢😢😢
Whether a troll or beginner Rex handled it like a pro and made another great educational plane video 👍👍👍
You know I actually believe rex when he said that knob wasn't uncomfortable
Looks goofy but it definitely looked usable at the very least
@@igreshi Too high, IMO, giving too much leverage against its' mounting. Easy to break.
My thought too when I saw how it was packed and repaired. Someone trying to have a go at Rex. lol
It's easy for people to say that Will is a 'Troll' but maybe he's a beginner, whose skill fell short of the task. We *all* started somewhere and Rex's kindness, knowledge and skill demonstrates that constructive criticism is better then abuse. Erring on the side of belief in people (whilst not being naïve) has helped me enormously during my life - and proven that there's far more Good in the World then Bad.
Though I felt that maybe this was someone trolling Rex; as a former teacher, it also occurred to me that it could be someone who really did not know or understand because they are new to this realm. Well done Rex! 😊
@@bethsousa9598exactly. There is a saying - you don't see it until you understand. That might well be the case here.
Love this.
Excellent point. The fact of the matter is that Rex went above and beyond to provide Will with a tool he could use. Made for a great video, but a better act of kindness.
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Thank you for the PSA, your moral compass will lead us to mediocrity
We have a saying here in Croatia. When someone sees your 'fly malfunction' they say: your store is open. And then you reply: no matter, as long as the boss is inside.
Great restoration as always Rex! 😉♥️
Nice. I like that and I am going to steal it for me although in my case the _boss_ is always hiding. 👍👍
A saying to remember.
I feel like the Midwest has an equivalent using “barn door” and “horse” instead.
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I'm going to start saying that!
My first attempt at restoration was an off brand. Did everything in your videos and the Paul Sellers videos. Then noticed the line, "sometimes it's just a bad plane." Tried another plane and it came out beautifully. I love your videos, thanks for all the help.
Love the idea of that not for profit. I went on a 6 month stress leave after suffering through 4 years of depression. I spent the vast majority of my time off in my garage mucking about with wood. I even started restoring a piece of junk hand plane, I think. I came to channels like this for community and inspiration. I found a lot of healing in making things, experimenting, gaining new skills, and just having something to putter away at (never underestimate the power of puttering). Thanks Rex for supporting a cause like this, and for providing great content to help people through tough times.
Hope you're doing better these days! Woodworking is do therapeutic I do it for a living and don't even consider it a job
Great demonstration! The two facts that I got from the video are:
1. Success is attainable
2. It's probably going to be more work than you think.
These apply to almost everything in life.
My wife often wondered why it took me several days to build and finish a project. That was until we had to to redo the deck and she realized the work involved. Then I reminded her we didn't even have to sand it or put a finish on it yet. Now I can buy any tool I want lol
If there was an award for most credulous restoration personnel, you would win. Hands down.
I love that you saw what seems to my cynical self as a level 4 troll extravaganza - and just went head down, full steam ahead on the diligence.
Nicely done.
Cheers!
“ The front knob…I’m gonna say user made” I laughed way too hard at that. 😂
User made with a week wacker...
@@dwainlambrigger3769
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User made with the planes blade.
Good job keeping a straight face
Near the beginning of my journey I traded 2 bags of veggies from my garden for a #5 (I think) Stanley jack plane. I planed an entire 12 foot long by 12 inch wide rough cut pine board with it and promptly went out and bought a DW735 thickness planer. I've been mainly working oak for a while now and I'd have worked myself into the grave if I planed all that oak by hand. Ty for the video! Special place in my heart for hand tool people :)
🍻 I divide hobbyists into two categories, "process" people and "results" people. A friend of mine is a process person. He'll buy an old car and take maybe a year to restore it to show condition. Then he proudly drives it around for a few months and takes it to shows. Then he gets bored, sells it, buys another piece of junk, and starts the whole process again. He's happier doing the restoration than actually driving the car. I just want to get on with it.
Rex…Hats off to you for 30 minutes continuous flattening! I m restoring a really nice British plane at the moment. A Record #4 1/2 Doing the flattening in bursts of 100 strokes up and down the paper. Longest continuous I’ve got up go is 300 a few times and I found that really tiring at my age (67). I’m at a total now of 10,200 strokes and I still haven’t quite got rid of a tiny dip centred on the middle of the mouth. Slowly slowly improving. Keep on thinking enough is enough but can’t quite let myself try it out on wood again when there’s still the possibility that I can get it perfect. I must get round to remembering that perfection is the arch enemy of the good!
Hi! Curious what grit sand paper you used. You can start with something more aggressive like 60 grit. Then move up to finer grits. (I’m guessing you started off with something too fine like 120 or higher ). Hope this helps.
Hi Robert. I started and have continued with 60 grit. I tried flipping the glass and used the 100 I’d stuck there thinking it would be fresher but it did less than the 60 despite it’s heavy usage
Trolling or no trolling. I surely enjoyed this video.
Educational, laughed a bit and - a lot at some of the comments.
But most of all, I gained Extra Appreciation for Rex.
Like some comments read, "Rex is a good man..."
Thank You very much Rex.
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I giggled at that knob and that tote
I did too.
I thought the knob was wrapped in paper for shipping
The knob look like it was a taken from a tobacco pipe made by a first grader.
@@bobweiram6321 it like it was rendered in Nintendo 64, with a very limited number of polygons
@@joseislanio8910 More like it was rendered using a Commodore 64.
Judging by the knob, That plane was originally restored by Fred Flintstone. lol
Looked like a miniature carving of the cartoon Tasmanian Devil 'tornado' to me 😉
...using a dull beaver...
Yeah, right, but no. Even a cave man like myself does better wood work than that.
Will is trolling his viewers is what this is all about.
“Tote” looks like a Yankee handle
Rex I’m glad you took will seriously and the video was instructive in that all the parts have to work synchronously. Like an orchestra- each component represents a section.
Watching this video puts me in mind of how happy and pleased with myself I felt when I learned to settle a plane. (professional carpenter, here) Forty plus years later, I still get a charge out of using my jack plane, my favourite of all my woodworking tools. Thank you, Rex, for all the very good videos ❤
Will’s real hobby isn’t woodworking. It’s trolling.
lol, 100%. makes for s good video tho
5:23 You misspelled "meth"..
I like Will
Rex, you have a big heart. ❤
Someone had to say it ! I think will doesn’t like him 😂
I feel like you got trolled Rex.
He's saying he did everything that the videos recommend and yet everything that could possibly be wrong with that is wrong with it.
Exactly
When he opened it up I thought it was a joke..
And despite the bad condition of the plane, Rex got it working. He put his time and energy where his "mouth" (course) is and showed us that even that basket case of a plane could be restored.
Granted, some parts had to be replaced, but that was part of the restoration process. Not all original parts are salvageable.
@@JohnGauntSega32 oh hell yeah. Rex don't play
Even then, the original parts could've worked ok. The handles are just ergonomics, and the blade could've been bent into close enough to learn with. It's just better with the replacements
You're a good man, Rex! I learned more about the parts all work together in this video than in the other hundreds I previously watched. Thank you!
Rex, been a big fan for a couple years. If nothing else, this video teaches patience, to ask for help, and that many of us in the hobby LOVE to help others. Well done.
Excellent video. Plane Wellness is a great cause too! Glad you're going to be a sponsor!
Wow, Rex is being way too nice here.
I thought it was a perfect way to encourage people who don't know what they're doing. We already have enough American Idol knock-off shows to go around.
Rex got a plane with the chip breaker not attached to a bent iron....Rex was very nice not to just send it back.
It makes a better video!
Gee is must be so great being perfect at everything from birth. What a joy it must be to be around you. 🙄
@braveworld2707 there's a difference in being perfect at everything in life and not wasting yours and others time. Ever heard of "if youre gonna do something, might as well do it right," will never has. It's unbelievable that will watched anything and came to this end result. I could've sat my ten year old son down, had him watch resto vids for an hour and he would've done a much better job then this monstrosity. Will is the kind of guy that can't do anything right because he doesnt want to put effort into anything.
Rex, when lapping a severely rusted plane (or re-surfacing the flat of a plane iron), try starting with 36G Garnet. As the grit eventually wears, it breaks down to a surprisingly fine cutting attack, like 120G, or even finer. This saves an astonishing amount of time both in the rough grinding *and* the smooth finishing. Also, it may not be easier, but holding the plane backward, thumbs on the cap iron, while lapping the sole makes it less likely that you'll 'round' the bottom from edge to edge, like you might tend to do while bearing the hell down on the handles...
Superb advice!
Ill agree Rex. The sound of your first restored hand place taking a ribbon, is addicting. My first was a Craftsman 4 by Sargent. Honestly the only plane I've bought new is a Stanley low angle jack, and its my shooting plane. All the rest (and most of my other tools for that matter have been restored from fleas, Ebay, and garage sales. I enjoy restoring the tools just as much as using them.
As a Brit, I'm used to 'tote' (American English) meaning 'to carry', the meaning of 'tote' meaning 'handle' may be traditional, but it's new to me. No complaint, just an observation. Well done, Rex, for restoring Will's plane. You give a great learning experience.
Im very impressed by you professionally assessing the plane instead of going "daaaaaaamn" when you opened the box
@15:20 Are we approaching the plane of Theseus at this point? lol
YES HAHAHA
Triggers plane
How to restore your plane ? Replace all parts !
@@Mikey__R was thinkin that meself !!.... 🙄😂👍☘️🍺
I have just found Plane Wellness, and as someone living with ASD in the times before when autism was only the non verbal people 🤷♂ but woodwork and especially woodturning is how I got through the last 40+ years, but back to plane wellness, I am in the UK, and although they are not able to help with materials and tools for anyone outside of the mainland US, they do offer the courses, and with help towards the cost, which I really wasn't expecting when I sent the first email, but Jamie was wonderful to talk to, and lookin g forward to my first course with then early in 2025 😀
Well done! Been waiting for a while for a video like this. It's important to know when a part can be salvaged, and when it needs replacement!
I agree with all those who have said that if you are going to err about the nature of human beings it's always best to err in their favor. Given the evidence we have there's no absolute way to know if Will was trolling. Its incredulous, sure, maybe even bordering on unbelievable, but barring a confession the shadow of doubt remains. He may have tried. He may have needed help.
I admire Rex for taking the project seriously, making one of the better restoration videos I've seen and giving the man the benefit of the doubt.
Dont worry about it, Rex. The man's intention is totally seperate from your response. It doesnt matter. When someone asks for help and you can give it, give it. To deny your help due to being tainted by unscrupulous people and then to be wrong...well, that just puts you in the wrong camp. Kindness and treating others with respect is always the right thing to do.
And yes, before the trollers jump on me like a duck on a June bug, I AM an old hippy. Peace, brother...
Thank you 🙏 thank you finally someone who understands ball peen hammers are for metal work NOT for driving nails.
I'm dead certain I've set more steel rivets than anyone here and most of them involved a modified tack hammer. A tiny cross pein would have worked here too - you can get it bitten down on either side so it stays put and frees up that hand to hold the punch to set it properly.
A ball peen hammer will drive a nail. I haven't found anything a bell peen can't hammer. They're a popular mid range goto for me when it comes to bashing stuff around some. I even peen with them sometimes too. Peening is a very relaxing activity. I usually use a nail as a rivet.
@@1pcfred A claw hammer is for nails and ball peen is for fine metal work. When you use a ball peen hammer to hammer nails you leave a small indentation on the face of the hammer and when you use that hammer you for fine metal work it leaves marks on your metal. If you need a small hammer use a tack hammer or a joiners hammer.
@@stevekelley1179 I'm not much for fine metalwork. I don't have the patience for it. When something is mangled enough for me to be working on it I'm just going to get it back into the rough shape it's supposed to be. Small indentations will be the least of concerns then. That's what plastic filler was made for.
@@1pcfred when I was a kid. I took my father’s ball peen hammer and used it to build a treehouse. And I got my butt wiped. He was a machinist and that’s were I learned the difference between hammers.
Very kind of you to do that for a novice. I learned a lot watching this (Yes, I am a novice). Bravo brother!
Thanks a lot Rex, finally someone who tells me how to grind the chipbreaker. I like your video's a lot. Cheers, Harry
Great job, l learnt new things every time I watch your videos, please keep doing such great videos, cheers Barry from the UK
Thanks for telling us about your experience restoring your first plane. I have been restoring my first plane recently and have been at it for hours. Started by trying to make a Harbor Freight plane usable and got a vintage Stanley when I couldn't do it. It is reassuring that, what I feel is slow progress, is normal.
TROLL ALERT!! I've seen people who don't pay attention to details before but this one takes the cake.
Well, Will. That is the most Frankenstein /Zombie apocalypse plane that has ever been. It had loads of character and charm. It was definitely a head of its time. New TV show,Pimp My Plane
Rex...youve been had, buddy. Time to put the hand plane down. You do not want to open the flood gates on randos sending you scrap being like "I tried really hard, can you turn this into a hand plane for me??"
Rex can always direct them to his course.
bar tap handle as "tote" is genius actually
Think it might've been a bog chain handle which would've been very apt for something that had been through the crapper!
@@doczoff5655 It looks like the handle off a Yankee screwdriver to me.
@@ThePillenwerfer, I came to write this, but now I will simply concur.
Cool video! Question: why didn’t you deal with the frog’s flatness before you reattached the lateral adjustment lever? Wouldn’t it have been easier to do so with it detached?
Also, it really looks like your friend made almost no effort to fix it before sending it to you. Those odd handles/totes make it look like he was pranking you.
It also could have taken off what was left of the top of the rivet....
You’re a good man, Rex. If nothing else this is a most excellent demo. One does not want to disparage, Will, but either he is a troll as has been suggested elsewhere, or he doesn’t have a clue about tools - not even a scintilla of a hint of the most infinitesimally small thought of a clue. It’s not a sin to be clueless about tools; many people aren’t. So, you are very charitable and I commend you for that!
Thanks for this video! I've got few old planes to restore, too and I've got some good tips for getting my planes in better condotion. 👍👍👍
Beautifully done Rex, nice job. I think Will just didnt realise how much there is to refurbishing a basically stuffed plane, but that came out superb... And now he has a cracking version to base any further refurbishments on.
Thanks for sharing .
Rex did amazing work here, so let's lead with that. Secondly, if Will is not being a troll, I'd love to see him post here and explain why he clearly didn't follow Rex's advice from the other videos as he claimed; at the very least, the sole should have been flattened and clearly it was not even touched. It really does feel like trolling, but Rex did a masterful job of turning it into a teaching opportunity for the audience.
Thanks!
Another great video. Rex's course is solid and worth taking - it got my plane sorted.
There is something commendable in successfully getting through problems with little to work on.
I’ve got a bunch of planes to send you.
You made a great video out of this plane🧐 Will served up a great bunch of troubles to look for in my plane rebuilds. Thanks Rex! #1!
Rex, as usual, another great video! Love the tutorials, very informative and a pleasure to watch. Keep up the good work.
just got almost identical plane for restoration (so far looks to be in a bit better condition though), your video will be a a huge help for me in restoring it, huge thanks!
I have a Marples 404 (equivalent to stanley no4) hand plane. All original. I don’t know what it is, but it is the nicest hand plane that I have ever used and I have used many different brands over the years. The blade holds an edge better than any Stanley that I have owned and it is so comfortable that I can plane for hours without getting tired or having a hand cramp. I took it to a friend of mine who sells veritas and Lee Nielsen planes and he preferred the Marples. It is honestly the last tool that I would ever sell for any reason.
You are a great teacher. An inspiring teacher.
I wonder if William made plans available for the front knob?
What a terrific video. Just goes to show that a plane needs good parts and good setup.
Your a good man for doing this your throwing some kindness into someone’s world bravo 👏 your intentions is all that matter here. Looks like a Shinto rasp handle
Nice video Rex, thank you for it! I have reworked brand new Stanley Bailey No 4.5 few days ago. TBH, i was kinda amazed how this one got through final inspection. Body was twisted, bowed and crooked. But the main problem was those two holes at back of the frog being 3 mm off center. Frog itself was machined out of square too. I have milled entire body and frog, milled those two holes in the right spot (i have used oversized screws), smoothed everything, reassembled, properly adjusted and now i have finaly plane able to produce paper thin shavings. Well, i was not expecting much for the price, but this was reall bummer.
Make sure you send the plane back, packed properly in glitter with no empty space so it doesn't shift around in the box during shipping.
Troll or real, Rex here shows us what a kind guy he is, how to capitalize (in a good way) of situations and all us "visualizations" learnt valuable lessons and got a friendly encouragement. A perfect example of the old "If life gives you lemons..." keep up the good work Rex, I cannot wait to finish my house renovation to take my used plane I bought and fix it up
Fun theme. Nice video, I’d like to see you help viewers more often. Well done, Rex.
3:52 that proves to me it’s NOT a troll. Also, that would be the sole reason it cannot take a shaving. The depth adjuster, attached to the yoke, engaged with the chip breaker, will do nothing without a screw holding the chip breaker to the blade
Good Job Will. Brilliant, simply brilliant.
What is it about restoring wood planes that’s so satisfying both to do and to watch? This little, functional, aesthetically pleasing machine, a mixture of metal and wood…
'.... cardio for the day' . Had to chuckle on that one. You are very gracious guy to do all that work on the hand plane.
You are a good sport, Rex. Well done.
Inspirational. I always struggle with how to correctly put the iron and lever cap together into the plane before adjustment and testing.
It also took me about a year to get my first hand plane to make a good shaving. It was like the clouds parted and I could see clearly finally. Didn’t know what I was missing. Similar experience with sharpening a hand saw. Similar experience with really any other skill I’ve learned. We all suck until we figure out what we’re doing. I think that’s what makes it feel so much more rewarding when we see good results.
Here in France metal planes are not easy to find in flea market or garage sales. Most of the time professional sellers buy them, quickly brush them to remove most of the rust and try to sell them for an absolute non descente price. So it's absolutely necessary to know exactly what to check before buying one.
Thank's to you and your videos I was able to buy an Esteel n°4 in really good condition, finish the restoration and now I use it every single day. Had to be patient to find it, have seen a lot of garbage shiny metal piece sold for 50€ I didn't buy.
So I wanna thank you to help me save my money and time by being informed and patient about metal planes!
Planes are getting harder to find here too. Years ago they were a lot more commonplace. Sometimes people will ask too much for them too. But I have gotten some good deals.
These videos actually help. There were these God awful block planes being sold at traveling tool sale. They said Stanley, but damn the looked bad. Three parts only. I flatten the sole. Shaped the blade
Works fine. Still use it.
***** but I will agree with what you said... AND I love the website you spoke of. I'm a disabled Vet, one of my dianoses's is nightmares-i do find woodworking a large help, i mostly do carving-cottonwood bark mostly. I will be checking out the website you mentioned-thanks
Thank you once again, Rex! Your plans restoration videos have been so helpful at getting my skills up enough to get a few planes restored now. That lineup most recently includes a very sketchy Stanly Defiance that chatters like an angry squirrel when I go to face plane. With this video, I realize there are a few things I haven't looked at on it, yet. Time to go take it apart again!
Turns out, "i did everything i was supposed to do," means 'I bought a hunk of shit for $1.50. Here Rex. You fix it'
Or the whole thing is an exercise in trolling us by Will with pretend narrative. Notice that every part of the project starting with the packing was wrong.
Waste of my time so I cut it short.
I restored this handplane with my girlfriends pumice stone, don't mind the mud and straw caked under the blade...
Yeah, this feels like a zero-effort restoration, and a hand-off without due diligence.
Thanks for the great informative video! Enjoy what you provide for all the tool guys!
I hope some other UA-camrs heard Rex when he said, " Any idiot can edge plane." So many videos where the author is doing just that and bragging how wonderful his plane is.
I've called a few out in the comments myself. Rex is absolutely correct!
The "tote" looked like a Yankee driver handle. Your and James' videos helped me out a lot with 1st restorations. I appreciate the help!
i knew i recogniced it
@@thunderstorm55
It looked to be pretty nice!
Well at least it is keeping it in the Stanley family. Because Stanley bought North Bros.
Plane restoration is a little addictive. You need to watch yourself, or you discover that you have actually collected a number of orphans. I was really happy to hear about Marples and Sons making planes. One of my first chisels, a socketed 3/4-inch form with a wooden handle, was a Marples. It originally came to my dad from my grandfather, and it easily has some of the best blade steel I have ever sharpened. I have only been able to find one other example of that series (early 20th century), a half-inch. They are far and away my favorites. Then there are handsaws, back saws, ... Before you know, you have a collection, when you simply wanted to put together an inexpensive set of tools.
or stop collecting planes, and then just focus on collecting parts and bits for your Stanley #45 !! haha
@@orbitalair2103 I just, mostly, stopped collecting. Every plane I have is usable. One of the "gotchas" of the internet is that simply because something is offered as a part, doesn't mean it will be a useful part, even if it looks good in photos. You need to be able to handle the part before you buy it.
Good on you, Rex!
I really enjoy you sharing the majority of the process.
You could have just shown the plane as received and then reworked and we wouldn’t have learned nearly as much.
Thanks for being humble enough to share the failures as well👍🏻
Great resurrection!!! Congratulations!!!
I love it when I can give Rex a tip lol
I have had to peen over many bits of metal and different metals for numerous projects. Sometimes red hot.
I learned to not try to do this with only one or two hits; but especially with softer metals, or red hot.
If you hit your rivets hard, you can bend or mushroom the part where you don't need or want it bent.
If you do light taps, you will not bend the rivet but just make successive dents, that only mushroom the end where you are hitting it.
I used to repair digital and mechanical scales, some had brass weights with brass bolts through them. The bolt ends needed to be peened over, and it would only take one hard hit with a hammer and the bolt is bent and needs to be replaced, or removed and straightened. I always used a small hammer and light taps and never had an issue. Takes a minute or so longer, but does a better job.
Steel isn't so easy to bend but it does!
Sometimes I need to make a "bolt". I will take a length of threaded stock and either put a couple nuts on it and clamp, or wrap with cloth and clamp in vise. Tap tap tap with a small ball/peen hammer on the end, and in a minute you will not be able to back a nut off that end.... making a "bolt". Will not damage the nuts or bend the threaded stock, using light taps on the end. FYI
Great video style Rex! Reminds me of the woodworking for humans series!
Too bad it was such a short series though, could have done so much more
Does your plane course start with what to look for in an old plane?
REX MAN. This gave me such a good laugh. Your a top bloke.
Do you have any videos on sharpening saws?
I really enjoy watching all of your videos... I am not a computer literate person, I haven't figured out the patreon thing, I'll have to have tech support team (my kids) teach me. I have been collecting alot of old wooden and steel planes. Most I've cleaned up but still can't use them very well....
A big point for making sure something like a hand plane is well packaged for transit such that it can't bounce around in its box, it is for the benefit of the box and everything around it...
Did Wood by Wright put someone up to this one?
There is no way the guy who sent this is for real. He's testing you!!
Was just about to say the same thing. I don't mind if he fibbed about it and just set up a piece to work over on camera. Was a good video and a great way to bring up the wellness peoples.
I think someone long ago broke their plane and had no choice but to “fix” it best they could
Glad I'm not the only one with yrs long projects!😂
It is cool to see you reattach the lateral adjustment lever. I just did that myself for the first time on a franken-#5. Easier to flatten a frog before that step though. 😅
Rex, you are very diplomatic
i honestly dont know why i find these videos so interesting, when i absolutely despise woodworking, but well done Rex i guess.
Where can I get the front tote made of parsnip ?
Rex, you were right to be nervous. Anyhow, very good job!
Nice helpful video for a broad overview, showing that you can “make a a silk purse out of a sow’s ear.”
My dad passed along a personalized PEXTO “bottle cap adjuster” plane to me. Not sure about the full story on it, he had a lot of tools stolen out of his garage, and this may have been a replacement that was surplus to his needs as he got nicer replacement tools. ROUGH casting, stamped sheet metal frog, ugly furniture, mucho slack in the adjuster, etc. Comments about the plane are universally negative, but, with a lot of tweaking, I have actually got it to work fairly well, and I learned A LOT about fixing and tuning planes from that project.
I love me a nice Type 11 Stanley, but there are some third-world craftsmen out there that work wonders with a block of scrap lumber, a piece of car leaf-spring, and some sort of wedge tapped in with a hammer, because that is all that they have.
Outstanding video. Nothing really 'new', but -- I don't think the rivet repair has been covered before. Thanks!
Hi Rex. I really enjoy all your video's. My dad had a huge collection of Planes & when he passed I wasn't in a position to take them, Now I'm sick that I didn't because now that I'm doing woodworking I wish I had them. But my Question is have you done any video's on the Victor 1104 made by Stanley I just picked one up from a flee market & it needs a little love, I payed just under $20 for it & it seems in decent enough condition. I have figured out that it was made in 1953 as long as what I found was correct. It has a red frog. do you have any opinions on the Victor? thanks for your Videos'' they are very informative & helpful.
love your vids. i do vintage tool restoration as a hobby. got a sandblaster, vibra tumbler air compressor hand and power tools, but i started in welding and metal sculpting. love all hand tools and still need a saw toothsetter. sucks being disabled and on a fixed income. wish i could make money just fixing old tools. i hate most tool resto vids. 90% of youtubers suck at restos. also wish i had more tools to fix. now that i have an S22 phone and an old but decent camers, i could do vids. if i only had a brai... er video editor. 😋
Great video, that covered a few things ( ok, many things!) that I knew nothing, or 5% more than nothing, about... I have some old planes from my Dad's tools, and from my former landlord, Fritz Thomas, who was at:
"the Deutsches Museum from 1950 to 1988. With great commitment and love for the subject, he worked for the Deutsches Museum as head of the musical instruments department and the model-making workshop and left his mark on it. Even in retirement, he remained closely connected to the museum."
Wooden, European planes, some appear to be quite "special purpose"... Have you any experience with European or Japanese planes?
Plane Collector on UA-cam has a video from 6 years ago called Busted, where he laps the soles of two planes with and without the parts to show what the difference is. He also explains where he believes that cracks in the mouth come from. It might be worth a watch. After I saw it, I personally have lapped a couple of planes without the parts that I currently use, that have absolutely no issues. But I think a video from you with your opinion would be great.
Bought an old but nice looking Stanley 41/2 today. Quick ink and sand and got exactly the same problem as the Record plane I commented on earlier only over a bigger area😢😢😢