THE SECRET OF NIMH Clip - "Meeting Nicodemus" (1982)
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THE SECRET OF NIMH is the animation movie by Don Bluth.
PLOT: To save her ill son, a field mouse must seek the aid of a colony of rats, with whom she has a deeper link than she ever suspected.
RELEASE DATE: 16 July 1982 (USA)
GENRE: Animation, Adventure, Drama
STARS: Elizabeth Hartman, Derek Jacobi, Dom DeLuise
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#TheSecretofNimh #MrsBrisby #Nicodemus
Just throwing this out there because it occurred to me a while ago. The stone Nicodemus gives her isn't just magic, it's a philosophers stone. The inscription "You can unlock any door, if you only have the key" Is an alchemic statement associated with unlocking potential within elements. Even more than that is that when it rises from the mud and it burns when touched, fire is the alchemic process to purify elements to unlock their potential. When Ms. Brisby touched it, it was purifying her soul and unlocked her potential. There's no doubt in my mind that the survivors of Nimh were dabbling in much more than just technology, they were grasping at the very strings of reality just as the science that created them changed theirs.
Wow! Just be sure Edward from Full Metal Alchemist never finds out lol!!
I always wondered why Nicodemus was so visually mystical and creepy in appearance (with those yellow eyes and his magical sparkly contraptions and random glowing magic power emanating from his room) but was actually a gentle, kindhearted good guy all along. As I grew older, I decided that this was Don Bluth’s way of teaching kids not to judge a book by its cover.
same with The Great Owl. At first he seemed intimidating but he turns out to be a wise and helpful character in the movie, though he can be a bit grouchy when disturbed.
@@princessofthecape2078 That is why we go to the books! TO THE LIBRARY!!
I always wondered when the rats and mice where given the injections to slow the aging process and why is nicodemus so much older then the rest of them? Was he like that when he was captured and taken to NIMH?
I think you give Bluth a little too much credit - I think he just does it because he thinks it looks cooler.
I always figured he did it because those were important characters for Ms brisby to meet
Mrs. Brisby is such an amazing character. You don't see a ton of great mother characters in movies anymore
Rita could have been one if disney gave her more screentime
Yeah, but it was a shame that her voice actress Elizabeth Hartman passed on in 1987 due to committing suicide by jumping from the window of her fifth floor apartment.
@@willrobinson3662 is that the only DAMN thing you can do
It's sad. They don't want to create string female characters without taking the feminine parts away.
Haven’t you seen Joyce in Stranger Things? All she ever thought about was the safety of her son.
1:20 "He (the owl) is a dear comrade"
I wish we were given more of the history between the owl and Nicodemus. In nature, mortal enemies, but I wonder how they grew to respect one another. I bet it would have been a tremendous story!
Assuming they aren't the same character.
In the book, the rats and mice weren't the only creatures who gained intelligence. There were others, including the owl, who were freed by Jonathan. That's why the owl feels indebted to Mrs Brisby (Frisby in the book) and connected to Nicodemus (he was a fellow prisoner). Small lines in scenes cut from the film played this out a bit.
Bluth confirmed that the owl is Nicodemus - they’re one in the same
@@JasonBrozic Where is this confirmation from?
@@boisebadboy93 Oh geez - now you’re gonna make me have to find proof - lol I am 99.9% sure that I read somewhere in the last couple years that he was later on in life in an interview where it was either stated that he strongly eluded to it or he was quoted in saying so - I’d be willing to search to find whatever I read
Elizabeth Hartman's performance was absolutely fantastic in Secret of Nimh, She really gave Mr's Brisby so much emotion and depth.
Especially in 2:32 that much emotion is so amazing.
Definitely. It’s a damn shame she committed suicide in 1987. Apparently, she struggled to get a job in Hollywood. RIP
Agreed. You can also tell that she didn't blame Nicodemus or the others for the death of her husband. She was confused as to why he never told her about them, but she admired Jonathan's bravery and she still loved him so.
TO THIS DAY, this is one of the greatest, if not THE greatest animated movie I've ever seen. I first saw it as a kid, fell in love with it back then, and here I am, a 47 year old man, and I still adore it.
Same here, 40 years now, Saw it when I was 6. I love it till this day.
It’s a masterpiece of art
It's truly a masterpiece. I can't wait for my children to get off enough to watch it.
I love that Mr Ages what getting Mrs. Brisby ready to meet some sort of evil creature when in reality Nicodemus is really friendly.
It took me until an adult to realize he wasn't warning her for her safety, he was basically saying "He's old and busy, don't bother him." 😂
I must’ve been a very weird little kid…
@@willcreel9444 lol basically!
I have no idea how successful this movie was at the box office, but I suspect it wasn't as much as it deserved 😟
and youd be correct
Well, it was either 'The Secret of NIMH' or 'ET' people got to go see so yeah-
If i remember correctly, Don Bluth tried to hard to compete with Disney and a number of his movies opened the same weekend as theirs
@@andyhood1948 That was by design. Like when Pixar started making movies Disney brought the company.
I saw it in the theater as a kid and although I enjoyed it I had little comprehension of what it was really about. I've enjoyed it a lot more as an adult.
This scene is incredible. Could you imagine such designs in a nowadays animated movie ? This film ain't scared of being scary. The background just looks like a alien spaceship, the scene with rats in laboratory is chilling.. But in the end, this is why you come back many years later. Thank you Don Bluth.
There is an incredible visual and story power in that movie that even today movies fail to equal. This cartoon is a timeless masterpiece and will be remembered forever.
My word, this film is an all timer for me, not just in terms of animated films.
I always loved the tone and sounds in their voices, these were my kind of films back then
3:15 I adore this music, and Goldsmith's usage of brass always stood out to me. There's something so very old-fashioned and operatic about it.
I completely agree.
R.I.P Elizabeth Hartman
Let’s not forget about Aldo Ray, Arthur Malet, Dom DeLuise, Hermione Baddeley, John Carradine and Paul Shenar (the voices of Sullivan, Mr. Ages, Jeremy, Auntie Shrew, The Great Owl and Jenner).
They passed away and went up to heaven as well.
Sad she committed suicide
May she rest in peace.
Its really sad how the quality of animation has changed. This hand drawn art is so organic. It's alive. CGI just can't capture that like this. I feel so many emotions watching this.... incredible movie. Saw it as a kid. Very very young. The owl was my favorite.
Happy 40th Anniversary Of The Secret Of N.I.M.H.
R.I.P. Dom Deluise and Elizabeth Hartman
Don’t forget, Aldo Ray, Arthur Malet, Hermione Baddeley, John Carradine and Paul Shenar passed on and went up to heaven in addition.
@@willrobinson3662 Yup They're Gone
Rewatching this almost makes me wish I had grown up in the eighties. I was born in '93 and I do remember watching this as a kid, but I feel like I only caught the tail end of that era of movies. Seems like movies were made with so much more passion back then.
Same. I was born in 95 but grew up with older animated movies. I had all the classics on VHS. I feel so nostalgic for the Don Bluth films in particular
the problem is that they don't realize children are not made of tissue paper. lots of old childrens tales were intended to scare the shit out to kids- thats not aways a bad thing.
Same here I was born in 93 too like you were. I grew up watching this movie 🎬 too like you and some other people did. It brings back memories of my childhood with nostalgic moments.
Mrs. Brisby is a very good mom. 😀👍🐭
Amen.
And Auntie Shrew’s a pretty good relative to Cynthia Brisby, Martin Brisby, Teresa Brisby and Timothy Brisby.
@@willrobinson3662 them to. 😀👍🐭
@@jamesmoss3424 Thank you for noticing.
@@willrobinson3662 your welcome. 😀👍🐭
Who agrees? Movies in 19 hundreds were so much more dramatic and breathtaking.
Everything was better, not just movies, because it was made with heart and soul. Nowadays things needs to thrown out there as fast as possible solely for quick money.
Lol you can just say the 80s. Saying 1900s is technically true but it makes those of us born last century feeling like geezers 😅
I sore this movie a few years after it was released in cinemas as a kid on a school trip in the 80s. I loved it great movie and a timles classic :)
They actually had to try back then. That's why.
2:55 somebody give this women a hug already! 😢
That elderly bearded mouse looks very like Dumbledore. In fact Sir Derek Jacobi who voiced him would had been perfect as Dumbledore in the Harry Potter series.
Part of why this scene works so well is similar to why the Baba Yaga explanation serves John Wick so well. The introduction of Nicodemus is very similar to how you introduce a villain
Nicodemus was kind of creepy but to me he was a fascinating character
I can watch this over and over again
How in God's name does a man go from this to A Troll in Central Park?
Don Bluth Directed Both Movies
@@epache315 I know that - you're completely missing my point. I'm asking how someone goes from good to something so horribly bad.
I guess he thought he had to make more lighthearted movies since Disney was making a comeback with films like The Little Mermaid and Beauty And The Beast. Obviously, it didn't work well for _him._
@@annafowdy To put it lightly. It cost 23.5 million to produce. It earned 71 at the box office. As in, 71 *thousand*
@@WillScarlet16 I have to wonder if it's because he had no competition in the 80s, so he could sort of do what he wanted, but the Disney Renaissance put him under studio pressure to try to profit off the Disney formula.
Mr. Ages: "Don't tire Nicodemus out"
Nicodemus: *starts NIMH history exposition*
In all the history of animation, I truly believe that Don Bluth was the greatest of all the artists. The Secret of NIMH, by far, is the most beautiful and expressive example of the form to ever grace the screen. The fact that the voice cast selected for the roles managed to match the visuals on screen in their raw emotion and power is quite the miracle. IMHO, this is the best animated film of all time and should be celebrated as a landmark of the art form.
You got to love how the music changed at 2:35 when Mrs. Brisby learns how her husband was killed. It really tears me up. 😢 Poor little mouse woman losing Jonathan in such a terrible way. I would hug her if I could.
What a fine piece of art this movie is! Nicodemus used to scare the hell out of me when I was a kid!
He’s kind of creepy with those glowing yellow eyes
Perhaps so but he's kind-hearted and wise.
@@vincentfichtler7758 And gentle
Okay, so the book didn’t have any magical elements, but I guess it works.
Don Bluth loves adding magic in his animations.
Yeah it's weird but still cool with magic
Also, Jenner and Nicodemus were best friends in, and Jenner wasn’t really an antagonist in the book. He just disagreed with the plan, and left the colony to start his own.
From a logical point of view, it doesn't make sense that the rats learnt to control magic. But I think it works because of the movie's atmosphere and pacing. It's so mysterious and since this is a story about mice and rats, everything feels fittingly epic.
@@fcv4616 My personal theory is that so far only Nicodemus has obtained the wisdom or virtue necessary to be able to use magic, it might explain why he was deemed the leader and why he’s the only rat shown to be able to use it at all.
Don Bluth's stories are among the various kinds of pieces of art with a place in my heart
I always found it interesting how The Owl & Nicodemus are so old & experienced they inspire awe & terror in their very existence. To their contemporaries, they are living legends just by surviving as long as they have.
I never saw this movie as a child all the way through, it freaked me out to much
Honestly this scene still upsets me and freaks me out.
To be completely honest, it came to theaters on Friday, July 2nd, 1982.
That means it was released during the summertime.
Give it another chance, sometime soon.
Nicodemus is like Moses, Merlin, Dumbledore and the Emperor rolled into one.
Moses: His staff and prophet style robe.
Merlin: His magic powers, items and elderly appearance.
Dumbledore: His gentle demeanor and wisdom.
The Emperor: (from Star Wars) His similar sounding voice and yellow eyes. (The Emperor's eyes were yellow, just not glowing) 🤭
Yeah, but The Emperor turns into a wicked character in Star Wars.
This movie is still in my top 10 favorites of all time. I saw it when I was just a little kid, and something about the story of the rats, the voices of the characters, and the music and type of animation used just riveted my little mind. I remember this part was always very scary to me as a kid, but I'd sit and shush my brother through the whole story nonetheless. Same with the Great Owl. My kids are spellbound by it as well. Beautiful and fascinating movie! ❤️
I gotta say for a movie that's 40+ years old, the animation has aged good
I read this book so many times. I read Animal Farm do many times so many great books that depict society, and how things work. Marina , the parallel of the Bible…. Children’s minds are opened when they read. I used to spend weekend in my room just reading….
0:17 - the impression I gather is that Nicodemus sees part of who he was... part of who Johnathan was - mixed with a hope for the future is, generally, why he puts up with Justin
That and annoying Ages xD
Sir Derek Jacobi is my choice to play Dumbledore in the Harry Potter reboot.
Don't Worry Igglepiggle!!! It's Time To Go.......................
Awesome way to instill the core memory that animal testing as unspeakably cruel
This movie is creepy as HELL
A MASTERPIECE X33
Oh yes I really liked this cartoon
I loved this movie as a kid. Read the book with my son and I love the book even more, as the wizardry and magic in the film is actually hardcore science in the book. No spells, floating books, etc.. Can understand why the filmmakers chose the magic route, but the book establishes a beautiful foundation of the roots of civilization, dignity, empowerment through education and self-determination. In the book, the rats of NIMH are essentially immortals philosophically dealing with a very mortal world. Both film and book are incredibly special, but the book is just next level. Shocked to learn that NIMH stood for National Institutes of Mental Health and that the experiments were based on actual research that happened there. Pretty amazing.
2022 Marks The 40th Anniversary Of The Secret Of N.I.M.H.
Weird fact Mrs Brisby's last name
Was Frisby in the book
Odd.
@@willrobinson3662 What's really interesting is that they didn't change it until the movie adaptation was late into production, after all the lines had been recorded. Every time you hear "Brisby" spoken in the movie, you're hearing the incredible work by the audio engineers in splicing the recorded lines by the voice actors to seamlessly change "frisby" to "brisby". And this was in the early 80s, when they were still working with old fashioned analog media, magnetic tape and such, without the benefits of computer audio engineering.
I thought I was going mad, hearing Brisby rather than Frisby.
2:31 😢😭
This sounds like a kickass alternate origin for the Ninja Turtles, if they were rats.
He was my favourite character
I used to watch this as kid
What a great quote
If anybody grew up I the 80s and haven’t watched it, watch plague dogs. You’ll love it
I 💕 the video..so Amazing
The memories
NIMH was a terrible place where animals were brutally tortured and experimented.
Like the world of TMNT
Nicodemus used to scare the hell out of me as a kid, but the more i watch this movie and read the book, it turns out i had nothing to be scared of. Hes just a wise, tired old rat.
Despite being one of the more important characters in the story, we really know very little about Nicodemus other than what a few other characters mention and his own expository dialog. Why was he selected for the NIMH intelligence experiment? Did he ever have a wife or a family? Does he have any children or grand-children? Why is he so much older than most of the other rats? Is he related to Johnathan or Ms. Brisby? If you haven't seen THE SECRET OF NIMH I highly recommend it, as its one of bluth's more serious efforts. It also has a little known but not really that good sequel.
Can we just appreciate how stunning these visuals are
Nicodemus reminds me of a lich, though a kindly one. I find that to be awesome.
Do you really think Nicodemus is in the book please tell me I would like to know
He is, but as a simple rat, not a wizard.
This was such an amazing book without a magic amulet and sword fights. I never understood why the movie needed to make such “improvements.”
Never heard of this film
Tell the truth, this Don Bluth film was released in theaters on Friday, July 2nd, 1982.
Watch it. You won’t regret it.
This is an underrated masterpiece
While Disney is credited with the Renaissance of animated films in the late 80s, it really began with Don Bluth and The Secret of NIMH and The Land Before Time. His competition is what forced Disney to realize how much they had fallen behind.
I totally forgot about this movie, I can't believe I watched this movie routinely when I was like...5.
The thing that scared me about the great Owl. Iv always wondered why they both were wise, and had the same eyes. Is it probably that the owl ate one of them and the chemical change transferred to him? Consider the interconnected web of the forest and farm. Since this is the twilight zone everything is a part of the other. Just a thought.
The great owl and nicodemus are the same character because he's a shapeshifter! (Straight from Don Bluths own mouth)!
@@frog24get nope. he just used the glowing eyes to designate the wisdom of both characters
@@toomanyaccounts Top 10 Scariest Don Bluth Movie Moments (ft. Don Bluth) video right here on youtube!
If I could read the secret of nimh novel book I would enjoy it
You could have bastard, but you can't have Excaliber, Excalibur Pumba dragon-slayer Katherine...
I miss the days of every cartoon being a mild acid trip.
So the rats learned alchemy?
The doctors of NIMH made rats and mice sapient.
I wonder what else they've done since then.
Nicodemus: Don't Worry Igglepiggle!!!
I really enjoyed it
Nicole Maris: Who’s Nicodemus?
He belongs to Igglepiggle because he says "Don't Worry Igglepiggle!!!" when Igglepiggle falls down
Do you think, they’ll be crossover Cartoons: Supernoobs vs. The Secret of NIMH
I am more than thirties and for some reason the scene where Mrs Brisby approaches the book made me cry every d. time
I can see some edgy anti-vegans see the second part annoying. But they got to realize this is from 1982, not nowadays
I am now 69. I want to be like Nicodemus when I grow up. Also, the Greek form Nikodemos means either the Victory of the People or Popular Victory.
No its not comparable to its sequel, they are good seperately
In my opinion, that scene is too dark
Rene Simon
Supernoobs vs. The Secret of NIMH of Season 5
Although this was a wonderful movie, I was always disappointed in it. In the book the rats were much more advanced and scientific, rather than mystical. I truly felt they missed a chance by not sticking closer to the book. The story of their escape from the lab for example was such a huge part of the whole thing and was just skipped over.
Go look there look there
Nicodemus must see himself in Justin when he was his age guess 3:55 they weren’t the only ones NIMPH had tormented
Nicodemus was an older rat plus all the mystic aged him
I saw this at the movies as a kid. LOVED IT! then it was basically banned and never spoken about again. It was pretty heavy for a kid I guess. I think Disney changed, or started the change around then. Now, its woke garbage.
Nicodemus
Would someone tell me if nicodemus is in the novel secret of nimh by Robert c o brien
Can anyone tell me why the great owl and Nicodemus have the same eyes?
no reason i can remember from the book, but id say in my opinion it represents age and wisdom
you could have bastard, but you can't have long-sword
why is there is there s necklace at the end a stone at the end that fixes everything? What is the lesson if this film. I'm sorry but after a long time need someone to tell me
That's what it is! He got away with more than just the augmented rats and mice, he managed get the stone! He stole the stone with the lot of them. No wonder NIHM kept harassing the farmer about his rodents. They'd lost everything! They lost test subjects, their research, their way of making more. They lost the stone! It would take forever to make another one...
I saw the 1st one but not the 2nd one
Do you think he's in the book
Is he in the secret of nimh novel
Or the novel secret of nimh
Secret of nimh apple paperbacks
Why are you commenting so much. Just make one big comment
I prefer Igglepiggle than Nicodemus because it's the same voice
I had a white rat with brown eyes named nicodemus
The Secret Of N.I.M.H. By Don Bluth
He should have stuck to the book by Robert C Obrian, that story is much better and doesn’t require magic amulets and silly medieval swords
Supernoobs Season 5
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