When Justin finds the fate of Nicodemus, his reaction just goes right through you. You can tell how much he supported Nicodemus' decisions and trusted him.
I'm 99% sure the man in the blue bathrobe answering the phone is Don Bluth himself - I've been watching interviews of him lately and the character has a lot of his speech patterns.
Watching this as a 50 year adult. Mrs Brisby was fucking awesome. As a little boy I was into the spectacle of animation and Jenner. Always have been a villain fan. But yeah, Mrs Brisby was great.
They very well could've reused some of the animation. "An American Tail" reused animation multiple times, both from itself and from "The Secret of NIMH."
To be fair, though; how many cages did Mrs. Brisby find herself stuck in before the events of this film? I’d wager none, so I always looked at this as that she didn’t know how to/didn’t think or believe she could get out of it in such a manner.
@@toomanyaccounts yeah basically they can fit through something if their head can fit through it - and she does in fact do that, just barely, with the water tray!
Question: Altogether, how many rats of NIMH are there meant to be living in the rosebush? In the flashback, Nicodemus says that 20 rats were given injections, however, the animation would suggest there are more than that. There seem to be about 15 of them pushing the wheel alone. That's not counting Nicodemus, Jenner or Sullivan. It is plausible that Justin and Brutus are among those pushing(we can't see where Justin is). Are any of them supposed to be the same rats seen earlier in the council? The rat's seen here all seem much more robust than some of those who appeared in the council chamber. Are we meant to believe that ALL the rats living in the rosebush are present at the house raising?
20 rats injected and escaped with the help of the only 2 surviving mice (Jonathan Frisby and Mr Ages). Then had a bunch of pups and grew to over 100 members.
I always thought it was so anticlimactic that Mrs. Brisby didn't have some sort of bigger final moment with Dragon since he was the one who killed her husband. But.. nope.
@@PeachWookiee I know. The fact that Mrs. Brisby is basically moving heaven and earth while half the time leaving tiny little mouse-sized bricks behind her is how bravery should be depicted. She's terrified but that doesn't stop her.
@@boldbearings Exactly. Besides, it's in Mrs. Brisby's character to simply accept her losses and provide for her family. Revenge against Dragon would be like revenge against a tornado. To her, Dragon just is what he is, a dangerous predator, and Jonathan just was the mouse he happened to target. He probably wasn't the first cat on the farm, and he likely won't be the last.
An exciting moment in "The Secret Of NIHM".... However, you must see what went before to understand what's happening in this clip. Find the film, and watch it.
@@willrobinson3662Jenner thought Nicodemus would have the rats be defenseless if they move out to Thornvalley so he killed the old rat to destroy his dream to save the Rats of NIMH if the people from that place ever came to find them. And Jenner was using the knowledge he gained to be more evil and not smarter if he was from NIHM and got his injection or was spawn in the rose bush
Considering how heavy all that equipment was that crushed him, I almost don't want to imagine it. Also take into account that he was old and probably very frail, his poor body was probably broken and mangled into a unimaginable mess that only his dangling arm was allowed to be shown. This was a "kids movie" mind you.
Actually, the speed at which the machinery came at him probably meant vertebrae were snapped and the spinal cord was severed. Unaliving was probably immediate.
Wasn't it 12 rats that were given injections. There is at least 15 pushing the wheel, they are all dressed the same, and all appear to be male, plus there is Brutus above and Nicodemus and Jonathan and the two antagonists. Presumably there are females among them somewhere.
@@caesar7734 yep you are correct. Still amazing to have to paint each cel with all of those bars. Multi plane cameras were still used when this was made! The first film that used computers to help was Beauty and the Beast.
When Justin finds the fate of Nicodemus, his reaction just goes right through you. You can tell how much he supported Nicodemus' decisions and trusted him.
The grief in his voice when he says “oh no” is palpable and hits you in the heart and gut!
I'm 99% sure the man in the blue bathrobe answering the phone is Don Bluth himself - I've been watching interviews of him lately and the character has a lot of his speech patterns.
He didn't. Farmer Fitzgibbons was voiced by Tom Hatten.
@@AeroRanger100 But who wrote the lines?
@@joshuahudson2170 What do written lines have to do with speech patterns?
@@AeroRanger100 Speech patterns could match the writer rather than the voice actor
@@joshuahudson2170 Possibly. Perhaps Tom was directed by Don himself in delivering his lines.
Watching this as a 50 year adult. Mrs Brisby was fucking awesome. As a little boy I was into the spectacle of animation and Jenner. Always have been a villain fan. But yeah, Mrs Brisby was great.
Scar is the best villain ever!
@@downhomesunset 😆😆😆😆😆😆😆😆😆😆
1:00 mad credit to make the equipment sound very mechanical and heavy. Really shows how much effort is being required to lift the cement block
" I don't know nothing about any special behavior but" ....
Rats proceed to construct an intricate hoist and pulley system
One of the best family fantasy films from the early 80's. And based on a beloved children's fantasy novel ever.
4:19 So, that confirms Dragon is basically the cat version of Sharptooth.
I would be surprised if that's the case.
They very well could've reused some of the animation. "An American Tail" reused animation multiple times, both from itself and from "The Secret of NIMH."
@@Interestingenough4 So Don Bluth learned that trick when he was at Disney.
Sharptooth of The Land Before Time?
@@MarkFendy-sw7hn No, Sharptooth from A Streetcar Named Desire. YES Land Before time!
Jenner absolutely terrified me as a kid. I had a nightmare about that damn rat 😒
Glad to know I wasn't the only one creeped out by this...
The voice actor nailed this role. So menacing. That line “you’re in this up to your NECK” chills
In reality, mice have collapsible spines. She would have been out of that cage in a heartbeat.
To be fair, though; how many cages did Mrs. Brisby find herself stuck in before the events of this film?
I’d wager none, so I always looked at this as that she didn’t know how to/didn’t think or believe she could get out of it in such a manner.
@@MysteriousStrangerVA Hmmm. I can accept that theory.
they only collapse to a point
True, it only takes even the smallest hole for a mouse to get through
@@toomanyaccounts yeah basically they can fit through something if their head can fit through it - and she does in fact do that, just barely, with the water tray!
Paul Shenar, who voiced Jenner acted as Sosa in Scarface.
That's awesome 😎
It feels and looks like the original animated version of Lord of the Rings.
Maybe this film was never made for kids
It feels very Tolkien especially meeting the Great Owl.
@Fievel Mousekewitz well if it's a family film why is there blood showing?
@Christopher Jordan: The G rating used to mean something different than “just for kids.” It truly meant for all audiences.
@Gromit AVGCP AYTCA Right.
2:04 - 2:08 she could’ve still keep on doing it if she was careful. But it does seem painful like that
She must have hurt herself.
sure, but pushing the water dish was way less hazardous
The mother mouse reminds me of the Raptors in jurrasic park cause of her problem solving mind.
And Jenner reminds me of Dodgson, from his personality to his tendency to abuse and murder people/leaving them to die, including his own henchmen.
NIMH is a real labrotory in Maryland but it's real and fantasy I'm sorry for Nicodemus.
Same here, because Nicodemus does a great job while Justin does a much better job on leading the rats than their worst enemy Jenner.
@@willrobinson3662 That's why Nicodemus trusts Justin more than Jenner for obvious reasons.
The muddy rain in the moving block scene looks like a good background design for a Don Bluth film taking place in the First World War.
To me, this part is as painful to watch as it was when I was a child...
Wonderful movie.
jenner voice is just so great 👍👍👍👍👍👍👍👍👍👍👌👌👌👌👌👌👌👌👌👌
Exactly. Paul Shenar had a basso-baritone voice.
@@willrobinson3662 yup
One of my all time favorite movies.
Mine too! This is also my favorite Don Bluth movie of all time! 👍🏻
Question: Altogether, how many rats of NIMH are there meant to be living in the rosebush? In the flashback, Nicodemus says that 20 rats were given injections, however, the animation would suggest there are more than that. There seem to be about 15 of them pushing the wheel alone. That's not counting Nicodemus, Jenner or Sullivan. It is plausible that Justin and Brutus are among those pushing(we can't see where Justin is). Are any of them supposed to be the same rats seen earlier in the council? The rat's seen here all seem much more robust than some of those who appeared in the council chamber. Are we meant to believe that ALL the rats living in the rosebush are present at the house raising?
The rats married and had children like Jonathan
20 rats injected and escaped with the help of the only 2 surviving mice (Jonathan Frisby and Mr Ages). Then had a bunch of pups and grew to over 100 members.
@@DenaeMcCall I think 100 is a conservative number. Given how many rats can be produced in a single litter, it might be several more...
@@PeachWookiee fair enough.
@@DenaeMcCall True
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I think that is jenner best line on 1:56
I believe you forgot to type in the ‘s.
Plus, Jenner’s name is supposed to capitalized.
No kidding. It shows just how much of a complete psychopath this guy is. Plus, this was as good moment as any for Sullivan to make his final decision.
@@dordonake what have he said?
I always thought it was so anticlimactic that Mrs. Brisby didn't have some sort of bigger final moment with Dragon since he was the one who killed her husband. But.. nope.
I think it's better that she didn't. Nowadays, they'd insist on her taking Dragon down nonchalantly...
It might be a subtle commentary on the writers view on revenge.
Dragon is a cat who eats mice and rats, not a villain like Jenner.
@@PeachWookiee I know. The fact that Mrs. Brisby is basically moving heaven and earth while half the time leaving tiny little mouse-sized bricks behind her is how bravery should be depicted. She's terrified but that doesn't stop her.
@@boldbearings Exactly. Besides, it's in Mrs. Brisby's character to simply accept her losses and provide for her family. Revenge against Dragon would be like revenge against a tornado. To her, Dragon just is what he is, a dangerous predator, and Jonathan just was the mouse he happened to target. He probably wasn't the first cat on the farm, and he likely won't be the last.
@@Interestingenough4 Mr. Ages leg was broken when he drugged Dragon the day before….
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Love this movie❤
I do to
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@Ryan Ward sam's here to bro
Me too❤
I 💕 the video....so Amazing
Happy Valentine’s Day 💘💖💝
Valentine’s Day is over
Disney now doesn't have guts to do movies like this.
They never did! This was a Don Bluth Productions project.
Nightmare mode
An exciting moment in "The Secret Of NIHM".... However, you must see what went before to understand what's happening in this clip. Find the film, and watch it.
Oh, Jenner! HOW COULD YOU?!?
Exactly. And Jenner fibbed to Justin about how Nicodemus wanted to destroy everything.
But before that happened, he quarreled with Mrs. Brisby over silly things.
@@willrobinson3662Jenner thought Nicodemus would have the rats be defenseless if they move out to Thornvalley so he killed the old rat to destroy his dream to save the Rats of NIMH if the people from that place ever came to find them. And Jenner was using the knowledge he gained to be more evil and not smarter if he was from NIHM and got his injection or was spawn in the rose bush
3:34 Up to this day, I'm still trying to figure out the position of Nicodemus's body.
The body contorts into amazing g positions when mangled. XD
Considering how heavy all that equipment was that crushed him, I almost don't want to imagine it. Also take into account that he was old and probably very frail, his poor body was probably broken and mangled into a unimaginable mess that only his dangling arm was allowed to be shown.
This was a "kids movie" mind you.
Ever crushed a cockroach or bug before under foot look at it afterwards?
The block didnt kill him. the gears that was used to move the block did. And only his arm shown. So basically he drowned.
Actually, the speed at which the machinery came at him probably meant vertebrae were snapped and the spinal cord was severed. Unaliving was probably immediate.
If the Rats had their own version of OSHA then Nicodemus would’ve been fine. Don’t stand under moving construction equipment.
I think Nicodemus foresaw his death that way
Dude can you please do clips of the movie Firebreather???
Can you please upload clips/scenes from Cinderella ll: Dreams Come True, please??!
Mrs. Brisby has to escape. 😀👍🐭
Affirmative. That boy should not have caught Mrs. Brisby.
@@willrobinson3662 I agree. 😀👍🐭
@@jamesmoss3424 Thank you for agreeing with me.
@@willrobinson3662 your welcome. 😀👍🐭
Makes sense why the movie im portuguese was called "The Brave Little Mouse", dude she has more guts than most fantasy heroes.
God i miss violence in animated movies. Nowadays its all about "feelings"
Like it!!!
4:19 😈 EYE SEE YOUUU!!!
0:36 Nimh is Coming
holy shit, they even added in the way water will distort the way submerged things look when she dunks her arm in the bowl
RIP 🙏
Shannen Doherty as the voice of Teresa Brisby, the eldest sister mouse sibling
Was this animated with rotoscoping?
No
Sometimes. The tractor definitely was.
Yep. Scenes like this and the one with the lantern elevator were accomplished by filming real-life props and then rotoscoping over them.
@@renatashp Yep-it was. Actual props filmed then rotoscoped over. There was no CGI involved.
1:39 & 2:41
I gotta say for a movie that's 40+ years old, the animation has aged good
Wasn't it 12 rats that were given injections. There is at least 15 pushing the wheel, they are all dressed the same, and all appear to be male, plus there is Brutus above and Nicodemus and Jonathan and the two antagonists. Presumably there are females among them somewhere.
its been a number of years. so they have reproduced. the council meeting had a few females. read the three novels
0:36 The scecret is solved
Sad
Nicodemiuse’s one mistake he should have stayed farther away.
That scene broke my heart; I had a crush on him!
I think he saw his death since he uses magic
you didn't know that the cage was made in CGI for the first time in early 1980s?
I don’t think CGI was used here. Instead real videos were used a references and the animated frames were drawn using a rotoscope.
@@caesar7734 yep you are correct. Still amazing to have to paint each cel with all of those bars. Multi plane cameras were still used when this was made! The first film that used computers to help was Beauty and the Beast.
@@downhomesunset I think the gears in the Great Mouse Detective came out sooner.
3:07 Why did she say "MARTIN!" like it was his fault?
I think she was actually trying to call him for help.
May Jesus bless you all and lead you to Him!
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