Karl has spent 15 years searching for the woman who held his hand during the 7/7 bombings - BBC
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Watch the BBC first on iPlayer 👉 bbc.in/iPlayer... Karl, a trainee clinical psychologist, was a passenger on the first carriage of the Picadilly Line London Underground train - one of the four targets of the 7/7 bombings. In the moments after the bomb exploded, Karl was comforted by a woman who was standing close to him and who reached out and held his hand in the dark, smoke-filled carriage as he feared for his life. He has been looking for this mystery woman ever since, and we join his quest to try and track her down as he finally comes to terms with the event that changed his life forever.
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This just proves that a simple gesture could hold a big part on our lives
I concur with your sentiment 100%. Kind deeds change lives.
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There was no reason for him to come clean about that. The fact that he cared more about fixing his mistake than protecting his image speaks volumes. These are the type of people I truly respect
I think he came out to find her, he made a comment about that near the beginning of the video; and I really hope she's still here and that he does
It is called concious! Sometimes. Does not let you sleep if you don't do the things right till doing right!
Every person remembers differently, especially in trama. He not only has a conscious, he actually didn't do it. She stated that she turned back for her phone. He never pushed her. Yet he felt guilty for 15 yrs. What a good human.
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They were both lucky to remain conscious and survive to tell their tales. This man has a good conscience or good moral principles.
Admitting this is the sign of a mature man. I applaud his honesty & courage.
He wanted to live. That instinct overrides everything. The fact that he feels so guilty shows he's not a sociopath
For you to even mention the word , there is something wrong with you .
@@fishmut For you to make such a wild connection to a very
straightforward comment shows there's something wrong with YOU. Get some therapy.
Exactly, the mind blanks out in a state of panic and all that is there is the instinct for survival.
The minute they were given the opportunity to get off the train, pretty much everyone will have been thinking about only that. That’s probably why this woman, or whoever the lady is most likely didn’t even notice.
He said it was pitch dark, there may have been a lot of stumbling around.
??????
Why would he be a sociopath?
His relief at hearing her story is so palpable. His face changes - it totally relaxes. I think whether or not she's *actually* the one who held his hand or not, just hearing her story has eased his mind. Amazing.
Please raise your voice for Palestinians 😢
@Cian MacGana Israel and America bomb on innocent people's & killed little childrens just for occupying their property or for catching some people's they are also terrorist 😠 😠😠you also knew it raise your voice for innocent people's 👍👍👍
@Cian MacGana Israel and America bomb on innocent people's & killed little childrens just for occupying their property or for catching some people's they are also terrorist 😠 😠😠you also knew it raise your voice for innocent people's 👍👍👍
@Cian MacGana Israel and America bomb on innocent people's & killed little childrens just for occupying their property or for catching some people's they are also terrorist 😠 😠😠you also knew it raise your voice for innocent people's 👍👍👍
@Cian MacGana if you have humanity then support them don't be silent
My nephew was one of the police who went into the underground to search for more bombs and help people. He was traumatised very badly. He ended up leaving the police and his marriage ended. He is over it now but he needed a lot of therapy. Glad these two met up. An awful day for London.
Aww, sending your nephew lots of Love. We are proud of him. ❤️💕
Beyond heart rendering, you can never forget what your eyes have seen.
Bless your Nephew and I hope he is doing better now. He is brave beyond words.
Kind deeds change lives. His life imploded that day, his recovery is wonderful, and all his struggles are still with him each and every day.
Thank you for sharing.
Australia.
Oh man.. Tell him thank you for his service during such a terrifying event
@Cian MacGana Ah bless. It’s a bank holiday Sunday & the most you can do with your life is sit on UA-cam leaving toxic, childish comments lol. Bless kid. Difficult making friends when you have such an ugly personality eh?
It’s alright, you’ve always got your precious Drake to listen to. Off you pop ;)
@@LauraBidingCitizen cops are meant to be tough and are trained for such . But am no way endorsing that man's comment
For you, sir, to struggle about that "selfish" act of getting ahead of her is enough to show us that you are one good person, to feel remorseful being ungrateful after all these years, and in those circumstances, so I hope you forgive yourself now.
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You commented just what I was thinking! Hope you’re having a lovely day (and we all deserve better reactions than a lone Jesus-bot commenting under every comment).
@@SoraCyn 😁😁, I do, thank you. I just feel for him as I myself have lots of regrets in my life as well. As we grow older we make a lot of bad decisions and we dont get to ask for forgiveness or explain ourselves always or sometimes we feel remorse but our pride gets in the way of saying sorry until the opportunity is gone. The self reproach eats you up day by day. I find people who are able to ask for forgiveness BRAVE as it takes effort and total abandonment of one's self to accept fault. Wish I was taught like that. So I really admire this man.
Have a good one! 😁😁
He still living the memories .. PTSD is a real possibility in his case . So lovely of the lady to meet with him and help on his journey of healing 💕
They were there for one another. You never know if those around them heard them talk and received courage from their conversation. Two good people in the dark.
He was obviously very young when this happened, terribly frightened and in shock. To carry guilt over an understandable reaction for so many years is tragic in itself. I hope he makes peace with himself.
Good point I wonder how old he actually was shame they didn't say
Awww I find this sweet that a lady held his hand 🥺 but 15 years to find her!!
Katie, it ment the world to him , I guess you wouldn’t know, when you don’t know who that person is or where to find them ,yes 15 years so what, what is your issue. ?
@@fishmut I’m not saying anything bad about it, I’m just shocked it took that long..also am I not allowed to be shocked at that? I guess not
@@fishmut Why are you being negative for no reason? Katie said nothing wrong….just go away.
@@fishmutthey said nothing that indicated they had an issue.
Have we finally remembered about the 7/7 bombings? Blimey. Enough victims have said they feel forgotten so it’s nice to see someone’s story. Bless him and what a lovely woman
Life goes on
An an Afghan we go through attacks like this almost everyday. No one understands the pain of the families of the victims like the Afghan people do. I remember reading about one of the victims of the 7/7 bombings that was an Afghan refugee. During the day he would attend college and at night work at a Pizza shop to support his sister in Afghanistan as they had lost both their parents to war.
I am so sorry, you are auch brave people, I cannot imagine how I could survive under those cruel circumstances over a long period as you brave people have to.
Thousands of HEART-blessings may reach you, your brothers and sisters.
I wish I could do anything to help.
Lots of love ❤️ .. may strength be with you & peace very soon, my friend. ✌️❤️🙏
People like you dont get enough recognition.
I believe there are millions out there with such small or may be very unimaginable circumstances or incidents that shook them to different track of mental status and life struggle......but what amazes is you are dealing with and not giving up...that is what is great about you and everyone out there.
The story was said out and was viewed is not because is special...but cos we relate to it....and somewhere was comforting.
:) fight on and stay hopeful.
Oh no, d poor man died ? May he rest in peace & his sister have a better life 🙏
Heartbreaking 💔
This was so honest. What a lovely story of human connection. You never know when you might be the hand in the darkness for another. And you never know how much a simple kindness means to someone else. 😊🐝❤
He feels guilty but, NO ONE knows how’d they react! It’s fight or flight mode.. at the end of the day.. they did survive.. so good luck to those who did..
Exactly. 👏 The body just takes over. Our adrenaline removes the higher decision making process because the time it would take to weigh our choices just might make the difference between life or death in the situation.
@Cian MacGana he's brave for coming out about what he did without fearing social judgment from people like you. A man who's insecure about their socially constructed notions of masculinity or a "real man" according to your definition of masculinity would hardly or never have the spine to come out clean like this
@Cian MacGana oh shut up
I was in the last IRA bombing on London. I was 12 and lead people back to marble arch from the back of Oxford Street. At 12,i was a leader. Pretty cool, I guess
Nonsense. You can and do prepare for such moments with your everyday decisions and practices
This guy has so much courageous to tell his story and admit his feeling of shame and guilt. 😱 that’s incredible! None of us are perfect.
Dear Karl I am possibly your dad's age and a retired university Professor , while listennig to you I thought ; what would I do if I was in your place ? Probably the same . Not bcoz I am selfish but bcoz that was a situation where one unknowingly stops being himself and the moment gets the better of you . Time passes
and one returns to his normal self again . Don't blame yourself , blame the situation , you are a pure soul . There would be a reason to feel bad if that lady had not survived but thankfully she did and it all came to a happy end . So be happy for her and yourself , put in a word for her in your prayer . Take care of yourself son , you are precious .
Love to you from Pakistan 💚
You are amazing and wonderful Human,may Allah blessings be with you munawar
You speak eloquently from a purest heart Sir, May Allah blesses you more than what you deserve and have longed for..
I really like this man. Bless the woman who comforted him, and bless him for recognizing his failing and trying to rectify it.
Both needed help and both gave it. We have both strength & weakness. Setting down our mistakes by facing them shows incredible character. Beautiful story over the ugliness of the situation.
Ok i just want to say to this man that he was in a panic and in fight out flight and that he wouldn't have pushed past her to be selfish but because his rational thinking was turned off. It's ok. As much as we want to be thinking individuals in these situations, that isn't always possible
And yet, she still had the most compassionate response!
I'm pretty sure he's aware of that now...at the time he was only a trainee psychologist,so I'm pretty sure he's a professional one now so yes...he will be aware.
Yep that's correct. My mom saw a woman jump out the 2nd story and all her thoughts were was the ambulance needs to get to her so I have to move my car.
It’s great to see that there are people out there who still have a conscience
What a lovely man. A true gentleman.
Karl you are still a beautiful soul. I wish you a future full of all the healing you deserve.
None of us know how we would react in an extreme emergency. We'd all like to think we'd be brave, but shock can make us do the unexpected.
You are a BRAVE man. After the shock of the situation, you've been honest, and done the right thing. Your honesty has helped others.
Bless you.
Karl your a good soul and the lady is really nice too. I am glad you have met each other .
The kindness of strangers... Tho in such a moment of Emergency we suddenly become ONE.
Why isn't anyone talking about the fact that this wingless Angel was with him supporting him throughout his order when she herself was going through the same! God bless you both and hoping with this encounter both have truly healed. Amen.
When you say wingless angel, somehow that reminds me of what had been happened to me too. Different situation but I believe that the help of wingless angel do exists. Thanks to God
Jesus loves you all personally, He died for you, that you may love Him back. Jesus is coming back soon, please repent of your sins He is coming back sooner than we realise! Jesus loves you everybody, turn from your sin, sin separates us from Him and hurts us. therefore reject sin! Bless you everybody Jesus loves you have a nice day:) Jesus coming back soon!! I hope to see you all in heaven one day
@@jesussavedme6260 Yes truly I believe that. I was a sinner but I accepted, confessed with mouth that only Jesus Christ can save my soul. And wanted He used my life to be a blessing. During pandemic I kept working going out, even contracted the virus without knowing it. I pray, its ok oh Lord if I got the virus,but just give me good imun so i can continue my duty. Now after got tested positive for antibody but not even any single virus was detected. Amazing just amazing my prayer answered. I wish God bless you too..
Amen
@@jesussavedme6260 lol
So interesting that it didn’t have a tidy resolution. Really impactful story.
I remember this day as if it was yesterday. My friend & I had organised to go shopping together in London, we were both 18/19 at the time. The evening before she phoned & said she’d been offered overtime, & i told her I had too.. so we rearranged. She picked me up & we went in to work together, & we heard about those bombings when we went upstairs for our break.. I ran to the bathroom & threw up. Our direct train gets in at London kings cross, & from there we used to get the Liverpool line - the exact train that was hit..& it was all around the time we would’ve got into London. Neither of us were directly affected, but the shock hit us quite badly at how close we came, we both went home early that day. I ended up meeting a guy a number of months later on a club night out in London who was on one of the trains that got bombed, his carriage, although damaged - stayed on the tracks & he & all the passengers inside survived with very minor cuts to no injuries, but I’ll never forget the glaze over his eyes when he spoke about getting out & stepping over bodies / severely injured people - that’s what people don’t tell you.. how harrowing it was even for those who escaped with little injuries, because of what they saw & heard that day.
We sadly lost touch but I often wonder how he’s doing.
My heart genuinely goes out to all those affected by the 7/7 - the victims, their families, first responders, paramedics, firemen, nurses, doctors, volunteers, everyone. Many of us won’t - & will never - forget 7/7.
@Cian MacGana You stop being nasty. Whats wrong that she wanted to tell her story too.
Thank you for sharing
I really appreciated her comment as it related to the video, I felt it wasn’t about her but about the topic at hand which I find a normal part of conversation flow
Yes, you never forget such horrible experiences, and so many people are thankful to survive. I was visiting London with my 16 year old daughter around that time. We had flown over from my native Ireland, where I had witnessed enough troubles over the years. Although thankfully not involved, I wrote about the experience from a spiritual point of view in a Christian book of short stories, published in 2007.
I was supposed to go into London that day too, to hand in coursework at university. The train I usually caught to uni was the one between London Paddington and Hammersmith and I would get off at Baker Street. That was one of the tubes that got hit. I had decided to go in later that day to give me more time to complete my coursework and I remember watching it on the lunchtime news, suddenly feeling sick to my stomach when I realised I could have been on that train at that exact time if I’d gone in as normal. It was such a heartbreaking day - luckily my husband had driven to work that day but he would have been on that line too. My heart goes out to everyone involved ❤
That’s one of the reasons we are here on this beautiful planet. To stay close to each other in good and bad times.
In the end it is always a “give and take”Position we make our life worthy with. . A touching story, thank you so much for sharing. ❤️🙏❤️🙏❤️
@@inapia1985 Grüße zurück aus Augsburg 🤩🤩
He was traumatised and he needs to have compassion for himself. 💛
Si. Pobre pibe. Se dió con un caño. La gente en esas situaciones, por el shock, reacciona de diversas formas.
Man, this Guy is something. God bless him. The world needs more such good souls like him. ✊✊✊✊✊👏
That sounds like a gift from humanity from one person to another🙏🏽
To listen to Karl, and wanting to meet this woman who held his hand seems so profoundly humane during a traumatic life tragedy in the 7/7 train bombing💛🌻
One of the hardest lessons in life is self forgiveness.
Brave man
This world needs more people like this wonderful man
Jesus loves you all personally, He died for you, that you may love Him back. Jesus is coming back soon, please repent of your sins He is coming back sooner than we realise! Jesus loves you everybody, turn from your sin, sin separates us from Him and hurts us. therefore reject sin! Bless you everybody Jesus loves you have a nice day:) Jesus coming back soon!! I hope to see you all in heaven one day
I would've been on that train, had we left later...Got back to our apartment, switched on the TV and saw the tunnel bombed we'd just come through. Will never forget that day 😢
Jesus loves you all personally, He died for you, that you may love Him back. Jesus is coming back soon, please repent of your sins He is coming back sooner than we realise! Jesus loves you everybody, turn from your sin, sin separates us from Him and hurts us. therefore reject sin! Bless you everybody Jesus loves you have a nice day:) Jesus coming back soon!! I hope to see you all in heaven one day
I can not imagine his guilt/pain. What a sweet guy!
He's more of a man than them terroists could ever be
covid has destroyed isis
@@narrativequestion how curious eh
The funny is isis created at America and I'm not surprised
@Cian MacGana Yes
Oh dear man, you're so young now which means you were astoundingly young at the time. I'm sorry you still hurt and hope you'll find a way to forgive your youthful panicked self. I believe the woman who helped you would quickly offer you forgiveness, not because she feel you owe it to her but because you need it to heal. Loving hugs 🤗💞
He looks like he's in his twenties. Was probably a teenager when it happened.
He’s pushing 40.
the '7/7 ripple effect' documentary is very revealing and shines light where the mainstream fall short. RIP to all the people murdered on that fateful day. it is an absolute disgrace that there was not a public enquiry.
There was a massive inquest into the whole incident and the response and everything, but not sure if it was public
@@stephthestar90 tony blair scoffed that an inquest would be 'a ludicrous diversion'
i ended up watching it bcus of this comment; truly an eye opening documentary. thanks for sharing!
Wow! in a moment of shire chaos and darkness, these two comforted each other with the warmths of their hands, beautiful
Fight or flight is an intense and powerful response - it's almost impossible not to be in that place, reacting, despite our best intentions. One traumatized person to another: I am glad he found someone else to relate to who went through the same traumatic event and I hope now he can give himself peace. He deserves peace.
It’s not selfish… if you have gone through a major trauma and feel like you needed to get out.
Jesus loves you all personally, He died for you, that you may love Him back. Jesus is coming back soon, please repent of your sins He is coming back sooner than we realise! Jesus loves you everybody, turn from your sin, sin separates us from Him and hurts us. therefore reject sin! Bless you everybody Jesus loves you have a nice day:) Jesus coming back soon!! I hope to see you all in heaven one day
It’s not selfish if you are genuinely having a panic attack. Theres no shame in wanting to escape from terror
I pray he feels released from guilt.
It's fascinating how we respond in such situations. I once had a really bad panic attack and my family all gathered around me in distress and worry. I felt my entire body become stiff: I was unable to move or speak or even move my eyes. A terrifying moment. I'll always remember how my auntie gripped my hand in hers and held it. I didn't feel any pressure. To be honest I don't think I even felt her hand. I just felt the temperature of her skin against mine. Cool. Cold. It meant so much to me. In a moment where I couldn't feel anything except overwhelming panic and a dire need to breathe, to feel her holding my hand is something I'll never forget. I'm not particularly close to her but I'll always think fondly of her because of this one moment.
He’s got such huge, Disney/Pixar eyes. Beautiful.
His guilt about being "selfish" reminds me of the guilt that I feel for being a selfish teen when my mum died. It's harsh. I really feel for this guy and I hope he has peace now.
Karl you shouldn't deal with guilt,you both helped each other,thank god you noth survived,god bless you
Lovely story. Thank you!
A very honest man. He shouldn't feel bad, panic and fear brings out things in us that we would usually rationalize.
They are both politely and tentatively trying to find out but not commiting to being the other person. How many other people in that carraige during the bombing had that experience. It is obvious that they were the 2 people. She was kind then and is still kind towards him, giving him an out by saying that she did not feel bad about him pushing in front of her as she was searching for her phone.
There is a lovely people in the world, I've stacked in France and I will never forgot a Russian lady how helped me until I came to London. Love her for ever. 😍❤️
It's courageous of him to admit that he might have been selfish in hindsight to an audience and be honest about the details. That in itself, makes him worthy. He has earned this.
I think we always want to reach out to our rescuers or those that helped us in dark times like that.
I was rescued out of severe child abuse right after my 4th birthday. I will never know who made the call that sent the police and child services in to rescue us. But it will always be my desire to reach out that that person/people that literally saved my life to say "Thank you here is my life, this is what you gave me".
I have been blessed to stay in touch with at least 1 of people who saved my life (my social worker), without them and my now adopted parents (only parents I claim) hard fight I would have gone back to that hell hole and died within months.
A man with a conscience. A true unicorn. This is beautiful.
He so brave admitting is weakness. We are not representative about one action but of a lifespan.
They are both amazing. I can’t imagine how they felt in that moment but something as small as holding hands impacted both their lives.
A human with beautiful heart! Wish you healing and peace.
God bless them and to protect them further of their lives
No one knows how a tragedy impacts the life of a person. He held this guilt inside and it gave him hope to find that person who held his hand. He judged himself hard but I feel he was probably getting out and allowed others to move out too. No judgement here at all. His heart is good 🥰
What a touching story. You fulfilled a need in each other. So lesson learned is: Don't be afraid to say "I'm terrified. Are you okay?" I am so glad you both survived.
This is beautiful. I really hope they live really happy lives. May god bess them. 🥺🙏
Touching story indeed in more than one way, it proves that the warmest coat is another human's body
Such a beautiful humane story,, brave man and woman... xx
7/7 was done by our own government. Thats why no inquest.
❤️ human touch can make all the difference and offer so much peace. I hope his heart feels relieved now after talking to her.
Good luck Karl! You’re moving forward, one step at a time. This took a lot of courage, it’s obviously overwhelming but you are safe, you are well and you are loved.
Take care everyone
I am convinced this was the lady I treated in the RLH A&E/MAU ward when I’d only just qualified as a student Nurse & quite possibly him also as had a very young man with a burst eardrum that same morning! Would love to meet them again
It’s his guilty conscience that made him search for her.
The depth of good and kindness amid such evil and cruelty. It is indeed spiritual warfare.
What a beautiful story. Thank you for sharing it at a time when stories like this are needed so badly. Bless you both.
Wow. He carried that guilt for so long. The fact that he felt so badly about it - that he cared that deeply says alot.
I'm glad he found some relief in talking to this woman, and that they both got to talk to each other and realize that it was not one sided, but two sided.
That woman looks familiar...glad they connected again
She was an angel.
although it has dark background it is beautiful story❤️
I heard about Karl’s incredible 7/7 story only today. It has challenged me to reach out to “hold someone’s hand” to give them hope in a time of darkness and distress.
This is the way to live a true and meaningful life. Inspiring.
Survivor guilt is also common in Holocaust survivors as well. Take comfort that you are not alone.
Much respect to him for his honesty.
Thank you
Never underestimate your care or your kindness x A moment is worth a million smiles
Such a small gesture and such a massive positive impact.
Wow! Hopefully, both feel some comfort in knowing another person has similar memories. The simple touch of a hand or a few words of kindness can change someone ‘s life.
I was 26 years old then and also used the London underground that day. Luckily I wasn't on any of the trains that got bombed. It was my first day at a new job and I went to work early that day. I first heard about the underground bombings from my frantic aunt who called to find out how I was. It was really scary.
No it wasnt scary how is it scary you wernt on the tube
@@godzilla4649 it was scary because I could have been. My cousins also took the tube at various times that morning. It could have been any one of us. It took me a while to feel comfortable on the tube again. My experience. Clearly not yours.
Bless him!!! Really hope he finds the Lady.
Wow! Thank you for sharing this message of humanity.
This is beautiful story humanity restored by simple gesture
It's so important to hear from people who experience the worst of terrorist actions. We can learn and help more and understand the lifelong trauma that violence of the worst kind affects our friends, family, neighbours and those we read about. Sending warm and heartfelt wishes to this man and all who suffered on that despicable horrifying day.❤
The city I love the most, I hope this will never happen again 😔 😪
I cried so much watching this. They are both lovely and let me cry more 😭😭😭. Such a beautiful gesture, the feeling of guilt he had is a killer and this shows how amazing he is and has a conscience.
Precious. We can all learn from the experience. Remember to love each other and be kind. As living beings we are more alike than we are separate. Even if you don't find the lady, know that she appeared in your moment of need. Your need to escape arose from fear - fight or flight - so also be kind and forgiving of yourself.
Karl do not berate yourself for pushing someone out the way - you were in a life threatening situation and you were in shock and trauma. Recognise that you weren't yourself in that moment and u will heal from it.
God bless you two and all that suffered on that sad day and the people who lost their lives 🙏
It takes real courage to admit that yes you have been selfish. But its beautiful to see how deep inside he felt guilty and did what he could to find her.
It's totally understandable when someone who is in panic mode panically pushes everyone away to get out. He had no control over it at that time.
Thank you for sharing this story. Its very touching
We all want to think we will do the “right” thing in these situations. It’s not normal to be able to override your will to live once in fight, flight or freeze mode. You’re acting from a more primal part of your brain that’s truly hard to fight against in these extremely traumatic situations. I really hope he can give himself some grace for what happened.
Very powerful.
I hope the gentleman remembers the lesson he learnt about himself that day, and if there is a next time, he might be less selfish.
But we are all human, and to be with someone as they die is a privilege, and to gain an insight into their true character.
We are all brothers and sisters and we need each other against such mountainous odds. This is the time to come together and hold each others hands in the struggles that we all face.
This man has given me hope that people who genuinely care, genuinely want to impact the world in a positive way and genuinely learn from their mistakes (even if this guy didn't actually do it)..exist. It just shows that humans do have potential, some of us are truly trying and that is enough for me. I needed to be reminded, thanks man ❤️