Eric Bischoff on WHY Dave Meltzer is a Useful Idiot

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  • @mikepelosi9877
    @mikepelosi9877 Рік тому +136

    If this was politics, finance, economics, healthcare, or any other mainstream topic, Dave would’ve been fired, let go, laughed at, and probably sued.

    • @joeylone2427
      @joeylone2427 Рік тому

      I don't know, bro. With as backward as the world is, Meltzer would end up President of the United States if he was in politics.

    • @codysnecktattoo3340
      @codysnecktattoo3340 Рік тому

      He's self-employed - I think the only times he ever has landed a job, he was let go pretty quick. He basically just writes a gossip fanzine about wrestling. I'm surprised that people are so surprised by this "exposing" of him - I thought everyone knew for years that he was a stooge. Bret Hart even mentions in his book (which is almost 20 years old now) that he hated Meltzer but spoke to him because he knew Meltzer would publish Bret's version of the Montreal screwjob as fact. Flair, Heyman, Jericho and others have benefitted greatly from working Meltzer over the years. In a way it's a shame, because Dave's condition means he can't really even understand the concept of journalistic integrity, and the vultures in wrestling take advantage of that fact to push their agendas. He really is a useful idiot.

    • @HarryOsborneAS31
      @HarryOsborneAS31 Рік тому +1

      It's Dave's business though

    • @LongIslandNow
      @LongIslandNow Рік тому +7

      If this was politics, Mega Mark Meltzer would be POTUS😂😂😂

    • @bighonker6842
      @bighonker6842 Рік тому +2

      He’s be on CNN

  • @jesterr7133
    @jesterr7133 Рік тому +82

    Uncle Dave most definitely played a gigantic part in the drama between CM Punk and the elite. That would not have happened without uncle dave. The Young Bucks were using him to spread their side of the story for months, and that is exactly what fomented the entire situation. Dave is 100% responsible for that happening

    • @MisterAlerion
      @MisterAlerion Рік тому

      So why was CM Punk kvetching like a bitch

    • @Ginric99
      @Ginric99 Рік тому +4

      The assumption is that the Bucks used Dave, but he also just makes shit up all the time, or makes assumptions that are proven to be wrong. As for what the Bucks “fed dave” I’m not sure what they are meant to have fed, that there was heat with Colt, everyone knew that, that Punk called out Hangman and the guys where pissed, again not really news. If you go back there where not loads of bad stories coming out about Punk.

    • @NationalSportsEntertainmentNSE
      @NationalSportsEntertainmentNSE Рік тому +8

      If a shoddy journalist is 100% responsible for 4-5 adult men getting into a brawl, those men need to adjust their priorities.

    • @totallybored5526
      @totallybored5526 11 місяців тому

      @@Ginric99it’s not a leap to know that the Bucks who have a history of licking Meltzers (why else would they name a move after him) rectum have been telling him their made up stories

    • @mattb.2740
      @mattb.2740 10 місяців тому

      Many people in the dirt sheet community have actually stated The Elite weren't the source of the leaks.

  • @yasin_GD
    @yasin_GD Рік тому +128

    This must be massively Validating for Eric, never been a Meltzer fan and this Fallout has been funny.

    • @tonyclifton2230
      @tonyclifton2230 Рік тому +2

      Validating? Bischoff is a salesman. Him and the truth don't have that fine a bond.

    • @tonyclifton2230
      @tonyclifton2230 Рік тому

      @San Dchneider in what sense. The fact that he reported on wrestling for 50 years. Give me all these fraudulent things he has done for you to be so sure of it. Maybe you are just listening to other people and are going along with it.

    • @tonyclifton2230
      @tonyclifton2230 Рік тому

      @San Dchneider that makes him a fraud? You sound like vince russo. Who reported brets side about Montreal? Was that all fraudulent as well, bro.

    • @tonyclifton2230
      @tonyclifton2230 Рік тому

      @San Dchneider yeah you keep believing the rubbish bro. I made the point about russo because you said bro. I don't know how you don't pick up on stuff that is telegraphed.

  • @jessejames9149
    @jessejames9149 Рік тому +15

    Mysterious email: The sky is falling!
    Dave Meltzer: Lets run with it!

  • @Provos7777
    @Provos7777 Рік тому +50

    Al Snow said it years ago that Meltzer is the best con man in wrestling. Meltzer has thrived because wrestling fan’s believe everything they hear.

    • @tonyclifton2230
      @tonyclifton2230 Рік тому +1

      Well if the marty Janety of the new rockers says it it must be gospel.

    • @jamie.777
      @jamie.777 Рік тому

      @@tonyclifton2230 🤣

    • @Scorch1028
      @Scorch1028 Рік тому +3

      In this video, Conrad Thompson does a masterful job defending Dave Meltzer and his Wrestling Observer Newsletter publication. Eric Bischoff's disdain for Dave Meltzer is a profound as Conrad's respect for Dave Meltzer.

    • @TheOldMPClub
      @TheOldMPClub Рік тому

      It's generally understated how many betas are out there that simply will never think for themselves. They've been around forever, the internet just helped them find each other and an alpha to do their thinking for them than any in person institution ever could.

    • @tonyclifton2230
      @tonyclifton2230 Рік тому +1

      @@TheOldMPClub so the Marty janety of the new rockers is the beta here and uncle dave is the alpha? I'm confused. This comment is muddled. Might I say not strong and direct like an alpha would make it.

  • @syko2695
    @syko2695 Рік тому +13

    When you realise Taker vs HBK from WrestleMania 25, arguably one of the best matches of all time, is 4.75 stars yet any old bullshit in the Tokyo Dome gets 6 just for existing.

    • @chippydippy1530
      @chippydippy1530 Рік тому +3

      That shit still makes me salty

    • @mikawhofan
      @mikawhofan Рік тому +4

      If it's an Omega match automatically 7 stars before it even starts.

  • @leecrowder4934
    @leecrowder4934 Рік тому +78

    DM absolutely had a hand in the Punk situation and I could not agree with EB more.....

    • @bury_the_elite65294
      @bury_the_elite65294 Рік тому +17

      This, especially when you consider that Meltzer is a close friend of Omega & the Jackson boys. But still, so many people (AEW marks, mainly) buy into the BS narrative that Meltzer has been pushing - including Tony Khan. It's just f_king sad.

    • @MrRjh63
      @MrRjh63 Рік тому +9

      I still love how in the scrum neither Dave Nor Alverez would say shit to punks face. Even tho both were running with the Colt narrative.

    • @WeissVogel
      @WeissVogel Рік тому +3

      @@bury_the_elite65294 what can you expect of a guy who waited decades for the kind of wrestling he likes and now that it’s here, would do everything to be it’s PR agent?

    • @tonyclifton2230
      @tonyclifton2230 Рік тому +1

      You know the biggest problem in the cm punk situation was. CM punk and his ego. All these simps getting upset is just nonsense.

    • @b-rye223
      @b-rye223 Рік тому +2

      @@MrRjh63 then afterwards expressed how bothered and mad they were about it on their UA-cam channel lol

  • @cerberus_the_rapper3096
    @cerberus_the_rapper3096 Рік тому +23

    "Useful idiot"....I like that....

    • @nicholaskallenborn9059
      @nicholaskallenborn9059 Рік тому +4

      It's a term commonly used to describe the peasant class of Communist Russia. People say lennin coined the term, but it's never been directly quoted

  • @whydoesthisexistpod
    @whydoesthisexistpod Рік тому +24

    I can't imagine how many wrestlers thought they had heat when they didn't or suddenly got heat when they never had any because of Dave's lies.

    • @Scorch1028
      @Scorch1028 Рік тому +8

      What's funny about this video segment, is that Conrad Thompson is Dave Meltzer's #1 fan, and here's Eric Bischoff throwing Meltzer under the bus.

    • @bls8959
      @bls8959 Рік тому +4

      @@Scorch1028 Nothing nee...these guys been trashing melzter to his face for years

  • @dwoodstwin
    @dwoodstwin Рік тому +152

    People criticizing Eric need to think about how they’d feel about anyone who made up stories about them.

    • @MrSheckstr
      @MrSheckstr Рік тому +18

      People who embrace DM’s style of reporting remind me of people who make wild speculations in the comments section of hard news story, most often making derogatory claims just because that sounds like the juiciest story

    • @FarajiCouncil
      @FarajiCouncil Рік тому +8

      He makes up stuff all the time himself

    • @TheJSexton24
      @TheJSexton24 Рік тому +8

      @@FarajiCouncil Meltzer fears Bischoff dork

    • @thegoughandbordenfamily8234
      @thegoughandbordenfamily8234 Рік тому +4

      Flair's the one who fed Meltzer back in the mid to late 1990s.

    • @pussydestroyer87
      @pussydestroyer87 Рік тому +4

      If I was Eric I'd be more mad at my employees and coworkers who were the ones giving Dave the dirt.

  • @flatlinedphoenix1688
    @flatlinedphoenix1688 Рік тому +19

    I could listen to Eric call out Meltzer all day long. That dude is a complete scam. If you didn't realize it right away, you've been duped.

    • @WeissVogel
      @WeissVogel Рік тому +3

      Tell that to those who’ve subscribed to that dirtsheet for YEARS. Man, a dozen bucks a month, roughly 140 per year… I think there’s more important things to spend that money on right, like food clothing and shelter?

    • @mrx2089
      @mrx2089 Рік тому

      whom ? Meltzer or Bishoff? Because they are different sides of the same coin

    • @ezstreete
      @ezstreete 10 місяців тому +1

      The Wrestling Observer Newsletter: The official propaganda machine of All Elite Wrestling....

    • @garrettchristopher3462
      @garrettchristopher3462 7 місяців тому

      To those that say dave is biased. He is, his business was probably better when there was a wwf, wcw, awa etc

  • @bobmarshall8527
    @bobmarshall8527 Рік тому +21

    I will never get why anyone gives a crap what Meltzer says, he’s a narrow minded wrestling fan for one and the issue in his “reporting” isn’t that he’s posting rumours he posts rumours as facts.

    • @WeissVogel
      @WeissVogel Рік тому +3

      A narrow-minded fan who prioritizes watching wrestling instead of attending to guests at his daughter’s bday party, and sleeps the night with his now ex wife (because he’s up at 2AM watching wrestlekingdom)

  • @Milan_N13
    @Milan_N13 Рік тому +19

    The reporting his opinion as a fact point by Eric was a perfect response to Conard's points.

  • @akamiguelsanchez9985
    @akamiguelsanchez9985 Рік тому +6

    Meltzer wouldn’t last two minutes in any newsroom I’ve worked in.

  • @alexanderball6326
    @alexanderball6326 Рік тому +23

    Ive thought for years that Meltzer reporting is basically;
    "This is what theyre doing. Guaranteed. Theyre going to go in this direction for sure. Its a 100% sure thing.... Unless they change their mind and do something else"

    • @LanceG007
      @LanceG007 Рік тому +1

      He does that because Vince was notorious for changing his mind last minute

    • @tonyclifton2230
      @tonyclifton2230 Рік тому +2

      Plans changed pal.

    • @syko2695
      @syko2695 Рік тому +2

      You didn't give him any credit for the things he gets wrong out of the ring there. Remember the WWE x GCW partnership he reported based on a series of joke tweets? How about the time he reported Katsuyori Shibata having his brain removed, operated on, and put back into his head? His catalogue of humourous fuck-ups goes far beyond the ring 😅

    • @peterlee6374
      @peterlee6374 Рік тому +3

      @@syko2695 or him saying he was told smackdown creative forgot about Shane and didn’t book him for a show…….
      Only for it to be revealed he was on jury service 😂😂

    • @syko2695
      @syko2695 Рік тому +2

      @@peterlee6374 Or when he published the Hardy Boys signing an exclusive deal with ROH and discrediting any WWE rumours 12 hours before their WrestleMania return

  • @PuppetMaster1
    @PuppetMaster1 Рік тому +5

    I'm glad that Eric seeks the lack of error from Dave Meltzer. I don't understand why people praise Dave Meltzer like he has the best knowledge in wrestling.

  • @davidratty2242
    @davidratty2242 Рік тому +22

    Any clip of a Meltzer burial gets an automatic click from me.

  • @jasonpeterson2450
    @jasonpeterson2450 Рік тому +24

    I just laughed at Eric's straight shooting here. I think the comparisons are spot on and I'm glad there was no holding back. I've been using the term "useful idiot" a lot lately myself. About every time I turn on CNN . That's why I like Eric. He tells it like it is and uses long-lost wisdom like common sense and deductive reasoning.

    • @justinrosenbluth6554
      @justinrosenbluth6554 Рік тому +1

      why do you keep turning on CNN then?

    • @theecharmingbilly
      @theecharmingbilly Рік тому +1

      Take your boooooosters sonnies!!! Get those clot shots boiiiiizzzzz!!!

    • @MW-cx3sb
      @MW-cx3sb Рік тому

      Yeah suddenly he now remembers everything clearly talking about this

    • @jasonpeterson2450
      @jasonpeterson2450 Рік тому +2

      @@justinrosenbluth6554 because one can make more informed decisions by getting two different takes on the same issue. They taught me there were two sides to a story back in Kindergarten. A shame adults now aren't even as smart as a five year old.

  • @James-if3kc
    @James-if3kc Рік тому +3

    I love that Bischoff still sounds like his heel self from Nitro in the 90s, lol.

  • @supportpatriarchyordietrying
    @supportpatriarchyordietrying Рік тому +5

    "I don't do things that hurt the business." --> Then what did you do with TNA, Eric?

  • @perceivedvelocity9914
    @perceivedvelocity9914 Рік тому +12

    Every wrestling UA-cam channel repeats Dave Meltzer like Gospel. WhatCulture, Wrestle Talk, Wrestlamia, etc..... They repeat Dave's opinion as fact and have no opinions on their own.

    • @Chillboyhaad
      @Chillboyhaad Рік тому +4

      That's why I get mad when people defend Dave by saying "he's just stating his opinion" or "people should think for themselves". If Meltzer gives a match 7 stars it's going to have a trickle down effect, every wrestling youtuber is going to post about it and soon enough people are going to get persuaded into thinking that way. And if you dare have a difference in opinion you get called a "mark" or "cornette stan". Dave has done more harm to the culture of the wrestling business than anything else. He's single handedly convinced fans that characters and storylines don't matter and that it's all about "workrate" and trying to have a 5 star match.

    • @WeissVogel
      @WeissVogel Рік тому

      I subbed to WrestleLamia years ago but haven’t clicked on any of their vids in years, because they often cite stuff from that paper.

    • @TheOldMPClub
      @TheOldMPClub Рік тому +2

      To be fair this is a general problem with people with beta mindsets who have both a low self-esteem and a desire to be popular. These people will always cling to anybody who has a position of authority that will validate that what they like is really the best and any other position is game to be attacked.
      I used to think when you see people just verbatim repeating the exact same line from some review or reporter might be bots. But then you realize in plenty of these cases, some of these people really are just that much of a doormat.

  • @kurtisallen3879
    @kurtisallen3879 Рік тому +34

    I love that Eric and Cornette universally agree on Meltzer and Russo.

    • @ec5018
      @ec5018 Рік тому

      well idk about corny he did say Dave actually reports accurately

    • @j.rivera6402
      @j.rivera6402 Рік тому +8

      @@ec5018 I’m a faithful JCE & Drive-Thru listener….he’s never once said Meltzer reports facts.

    • @chippydippy1530
      @chippydippy1530 Рік тому +1

      @EC 501 From what I recall that was mostly in terms of being a wrestling historian. Also he and Meltzer were friends for years before falling out so ofc he'd vouch for his friend.

    • @HereIsWisdom1318
      @HereIsWisdom1318 Рік тому

      Dont forget Bruce!

  • @GaryMS
    @GaryMS Рік тому +15

    Lol Eric rants on Dave are great 😂😂😂😂

  • @jessycruz2465
    @jessycruz2465 Рік тому +8

    Eric really hits the bullseye. Dave is just a conman and an old mark with wrestler friends as his sources for backstage rumors and drama. Unfortunately he doesn't really bother researching or even apologizing for spreading false news.

  • @jman199315
    @jman199315 Рік тому +7

    I don’t agree with most things Eric says but he’s on point as to Dave meltzer having a hand in the cm punk vs elite situation, those reports is what ultimately had Adam page shoot on punk and punk in kind did what he did right or wrong.

  • @ravindergill9038
    @ravindergill9038 Рік тому +11

    Thanks Eric,
    You are right Meltzer is a HUGE Con Man.
    Meltzer thinks the Young Bucks are GREAT Workers, 😂

    • @theecharmingbilly
      @theecharmingbilly Рік тому

      Meltzer Driver, dial up Uncle Dave, get them starzzzz! At the filthy dome! Tearin' down the dome. Okada? Omega? More like Nokada, Nomega! Young Bucks, greatest tag team ever.... for Dave to chronically masturbate too! Look at their rope work!! At the dome!! New Japan is like TLC baybee, Ain't...No... Scrubs!!!!
      ⭐️✨️✨️✨️💫✨️✨️✨️⭐️

    • @MisterAlerion
      @MisterAlerion Рік тому

      Nick Jackson can out wrestle 90% of the roster

    • @Rosadomofo
      @Rosadomofo Рік тому +1

      @@MisterAlerionif they were all on meth

  • @yujirohanma5199
    @yujirohanma5199 Рік тому +16

    I've watched wrestling for 30 + years now. I have always taken Dave Meltzer quotes/news with a Grain of Salt.

  • @joeylone2427
    @joeylone2427 Рік тому +7

    I'm really enjoying the 83 Weeks Podcast. I thoroughly enjoy hearing Eric's views and opinions. He's direct, but not a jerk about it.

    • @gamesthatiplay9083
      @gamesthatiplay9083 Рік тому +1

      Yet for 30 years, crabby pro wrestlers made it seem like Eric was the biggest jerk. I assume muscled up dudes are really babies.

  • @experienceanimation217
    @experienceanimation217 Рік тому +2

    I'd argue Dave Meltzer and The majority of the wrestling media damage wrestling more than they help build it.

  • @marvellis6762
    @marvellis6762 Рік тому +4

    Personally I'm only interested in actual facts of events from wrestling stories and Melterz only provides hearsay and gossip. Credibility is a must!

  • @phillipstankey8881
    @phillipstankey8881 Рік тому +7

    Dave asked for it....

  • @anthonyv9324
    @anthonyv9324 Рік тому +4

    Would have no issue with Dave giving his opinions but it’s his holier than thou “I’m a journalist and look at all the people that say I am” rhetoric on twitter that annoys me when anyone argues their opinions with him. He constantly posts a link to a deceased sports writer who wrote an article about him ten years ago. It’s embarrassing.

  • @b-rye223
    @b-rye223 Рік тому +22

    I’ve never sided so hard with a Eric Bischoff take before in my life lol
    This is equivalent to me of when Jim Cornette bonded with Eric over their hatred of Vince Russo lol I just can’t stand Dave Meltzer. In fact, I think I’ll hit my bong and replay this video with a smirk on my face 😌

    • @thehmc
      @thehmc Рік тому

      Except in this case, Meltzer is actually a dunce, and in the other case Vince Russo is obviously right to anyone with a brain.

    • @syko2695
      @syko2695 Рік тому

      @@thehmc Right about what? I haven't seen this clip being referred to

  • @jeffreymiller9808
    @jeffreymiller9808 Рік тому +10

    Damn, Bischoff goes Crazy about Meltzer and Cornette goes Crazy about Vince Russo. It never stops. Must be more to both set of circumstances that Keeps this Drama alive.💣

  • @dansokulski4039
    @dansokulski4039 Рік тому +4

    I love EZ. Tells it like it is and owns his mistakes as much as anyone

  • @ronniejdio9411
    @ronniejdio9411 Рік тому +6

    Tell us how you really feel Eric

  • @annebonney463
    @annebonney463 Рік тому +3

    Bischoff is quite right. The fact that Meltzer produces 'news worthy-stuff' as the literal truth needs to be talked about. Yes, by all means have an opinion but not to push it as FACT! Be careful, people out there who will take what is said, written, etc as the gospel truth. Meltzer is not a qualified journalist, he's a wrestling fan who has a platform to put forward his thoughts, etc. I find Conrad's loose attitude, and by loose I mean 'awe well you know what Dave's like' attitude a bit disingenuous. Please Conrad , huh??

  • @seraphimdunn
    @seraphimdunn Рік тому +5

    Conrad trying to defend being a WON subscriber is hilarious

    • @14eyesman
      @14eyesman Рік тому +3

      Mental gymnastics at its best

  • @ricardohester9512
    @ricardohester9512 Рік тому +10

    People criticize Eric because he tells the absolute truth about the wrestling business..as a old school fan if these companies listen to this men more they would probably have more success..it's a reason when wcw fell Vince hired him back then..

    • @InYourHeadChangedMan
      @InYourHeadChangedMan Рік тому

      Bischoff knows nothing about wrestling he got lucky with the nWo idea and had the good idea of going live but that's it

  • @jonmccormick8683
    @jonmccormick8683 Рік тому +7

    Conrad thinks Meltzer is Wrestling Jesus and his dirt sheets the Wrestling Bible.

    • @Chillboyhaad
      @Chillboyhaad Рік тому +2

      Conrad still thinks wrestling is real lmao

    • @SuperHyphyOne
      @SuperHyphyOne Рік тому

      It's funny when Conrad and Eric are talking about wrestling history. Conrad pulls out the dirt sheets, then Eric says that Dave is full of shit. Conrad is like "But..but...but...but.....Meltzer said!"

  • @northstar5
    @northstar5 Рік тому +56

    I love it when Cornette and Bischoff end up on the same page. Always a good time.

  • @Ringmaster138
    @Ringmaster138 Рік тому +6

    I don't know why the Channel stopped doing this, but I would like you guys to promote which episode the clips are pulled from so I can listen to the full podcast.

    • @totallybored5526
      @totallybored5526 11 місяців тому

      Why don’t you just listen to episodes? And if you only want to listen to specific episodes you can look at the date stamp on the video and work out from their which episode it’s from. It’s not hard, it’s very simple

  • @jeffreygunn3150
    @jeffreygunn3150 4 місяці тому +2

    Conrad’s analogy with real estate and “subjective” appraising is somewhat baffling.

  • @stephencatchdudeknight4623
    @stephencatchdudeknight4623 Рік тому +26

    The rivalry has officially started! Took few decades but the Cornette\Russo has took a backburner.

    • @williammitchell4417
      @williammitchell4417 Рік тому

      That's because Brian Last already threw Uncle Dave into the dumpster years ago. As for $#it$tain, until he's dead and is charcoal in Hell, Corny can go the distance.

    • @tomvu1470
      @tomvu1470 Рік тому +2

      Both Cornette & Bischoff aren't amused by Russo or Meltzer. The enemy of my enemy is my friend.

    • @apache8664
      @apache8664 Рік тому +4

      @@tomvu1470 Jim & Bischoff did the table for three sit down and Jim realized that Bischoff hates Russo almost as much as him it was a pretty cool coming together honestly meanwhile Michael Hayes is just so happy to be there

  • @tjtaylor6431
    @tjtaylor6431 Рік тому +1

    Conrad sneaking in the Leo “That just like, your opinion man” was awesome.

  • @rd_2113
    @rd_2113 Рік тому +2

    His bias and agendas have really been exposed with the CM Punk vs The Elite.
    Lost pretty much all credibility he could have had left.

  • @JeremyNoblitt
    @JeremyNoblitt Рік тому +3

    I've said it before and I'll say it again. I could listen to Eric and Bruce destroy Dave all day every day.

  • @epic1761
    @epic1761 Рік тому +3

    Love this upload, finally. Got bashed on one of Dave's videos for questioning it lol

  • @sirtentacles5206
    @sirtentacles5206 Рік тому +2

    Because of Eric.. I’m am now gonna start using the word “stooge” the way he said it felt powerful

  • @Joepacalypse1107
    @Joepacalypse1107 Рік тому +7

    I know Conrad has done a great job building an empire with the wrestling podcasts but he is awful on the mic. His creepy bromance that he has for that fool Meltzer makes it so he can not ever be taken seriously. Eric is right, he is a conman and Dave doesnt give opinion as opinion, he presents it as fact ...and Conrad buys right in. He looks like he is going to cry as Eric speaks truth about Dave. I never looked at the people who read those dirt sheets as true fans.

    • @supportpatriarchyordietrying
      @supportpatriarchyordietrying Рік тому

      what about his creepy bromance with the Flair family?

    • @Joepacalypse1107
      @Joepacalypse1107 Рік тому

      @@supportpatriarchyordietrying He is married to one of them so I kinda can understand that. Conrad is has always been a fat guy that now tries to live vicariously through others.

    • @supportpatriarchyordietrying
      @supportpatriarchyordietrying Рік тому

      @@Joepacalypse1107 That's the point: he got the marriage BECAUSE of his bromance with Ric. Not the other way around.

    • @RowdyRodimus
      @RowdyRodimus Рік тому

      @@supportpatriarchyordietrying I thought it was because Conrad figured getting something made from Flair would be the ultimate collectable. "Oh, you got a Flair autograph? Cute, I got the product of his semen."

    • @supportpatriarchyordietrying
      @supportpatriarchyordietrying Рік тому

      @@RowdyRodimus There are some people out there who stole some of Flair's expensive entrance robes. I guess he wanted an even more valuable collectable than THAT. Way too bad Megan Flair is already 40+, otherwise he could CREATE the ultimate Flair collectable with his own semen.

  • @arunrawat4298
    @arunrawat4298 Рік тому +3

    Meltzer has zero credibility. Dave on bucks payroll tried very hard to make different narratives about punk. When people like cornette or bischoff who were actually in wrestling business for a long time says something, aew fangirls gets upset, while taking meltzer seriously.

  • @jonpike9502
    @jonpike9502 Рік тому +4

    You'd think by now conrad would've woken up and got with reality about his assbuddy uncle Dave

  • @kellyremple8982
    @kellyremple8982 Рік тому +3

    Eric is the LAST person who should ever criticize ANYONE for getting information wrong. His entire list of "facts" on the Bret Hart contract situation in 1996 is something he messed up completely, and he DID the contract. So, Eric is essentially doing the same thing. Sometimes he is right, sometimes not. Whats the difference?

    • @TL2354
      @TL2354 Рік тому

      The difference is that Bischoff doesn’t claim to be a journalist and doesn’t charge people to pay for a newsletter. The fact that you couldn’t figure that out is disturbing and you’re as useless as Meltzer

    • @kellyremple8982
      @kellyremple8982 Рік тому +1

      @@TL2354 The fact that you don't understand that a man who has a podcast and CONSTANTLY screws up the accuracy of events that happened in his own life, is equally as disturbing.

  • @TorontoGuy
    @TorontoGuy Рік тому +1

    In today's 24 hour news cycle world you need to keep feeding your audience in order to keep them around. Dave went from reporting nonsense weekly to reporting it several times an hour on social media to maintain an audience.

  • @mjolden
    @mjolden Рік тому +3

    Correct me if I'm wrong, but I have heard Conrad go to bat for Meltzer's articles, opinions, etc, on multiple occasions, and he's pretty much treated it as gospel truth-- now here he's saying, "well it's just his opinion, it's like The Inquirer".

    • @KClouisville
      @KClouisville Рік тому +1

      Yeah, bullshit on his part....especially his "I've always said"....dude, no you haven't. Lol.

    • @mjolden
      @mjolden Рік тому

      @@KClouisville how many episodes has Conrad done with Prichard and/or Bischoff where he gets visibly upset if they tell him, "Meltzer's lying, that's not what happened"? Lol

    • @ec5018
      @ec5018 Рік тому

      conrad really got me when he said " because dave watches alot of wrestling " like so what ? man is not in the industry and is reporting as a fan

    • @RowdyRodimus
      @RowdyRodimus Рік тому

      Conrad comes off as someone without a real personality and just becomes who he is around at the time.

  • @ladydeathxx
    @ladydeathxx Рік тому +11

    Love hearing from Eric. His insight is priceless & the best. 😎🤘🤘

  • @ctt4lfecw
    @ctt4lfecw Рік тому +1

    I personally love when Eric says, “now you’re just a pos.” 😂

  • @fmdof
    @fmdof Рік тому +3

    Here's the problem with meltzers star rating system. Yes, it's his opinion. Most of us know this. There are however A LOT of people that don't get that. So if I were a new fan of pro wrestling and wanted to look up "best wrestling matches" I'm more likely to find any Kenny Omega match instead of Hogan vs the Rock. More likely to find a young bucks match instead of Bret Hart. Only for 1 reason. Meltzers opinion. Which then gets regurgitated on every mark site and mark UA-camr site.

    • @darinlunderman8063
      @darinlunderman8063 Рік тому

      Meltzer's star system is weird to begin with. Even if it was Cornette using it, who exactly designated just how much actual quality a match or storyline has based on quarters of stars? Dave, to my knowledge, has never properly explained his star system to anyone in which a valid consensus could be agreed upon by both he and whoever he explains it to. I'd really be interested to know why he thinks Omega/Okada was on par with Flair/Steamboat with his rating system.

    • @chippydippy1530
      @chippydippy1530 Рік тому

      There's also the fact that Dave massively inflated the stars he gives out so much that when you see 5 stars you're not even sure of the quality of the match at that point

  • @CompelledUsername
    @CompelledUsername Рік тому +1

    How come Conrad gets to play nicely here? He'd routinely clam up on Bruce or get downright haughty if anyone tried criticising Meltzer in the early days of STW.

  • @joypadlad
    @joypadlad Рік тому +1

    Eric is 100% correct about Dave as always. Glad to see Conrad squirm as his idol gets carved up.

  • @mikepeacock4725
    @mikepeacock4725 2 місяці тому

    There's a radio show up here that airs every Sunday that gives 15 minutes at the start of their 2nd hour to Dave Meltzer and they take every thing he says as gospel

  • @NationalSportsEntertainmentNSE

    I feel like every day I am vindicated just a little more because I have been defending Eric for years
    I’m not saying he’s perfect but the one thing he does do as he points out mistakes that are being made because he’s made them lol
    He doesn’t act like he booked perfectly and now he’s sitting up there like Jim who acts like he knows everything
    Furthermore he has been spot on with everything AEW

  • @cnotes1790
    @cnotes1790 Рік тому +3

    Don't hold back E tell us your true feelings!

  • @jordancarson
    @jordancarson Рік тому

    Well, I’m gonna call out Bischoff on blocking people on Twitter. Bischoff is a hardcore conservative. I called him out once on the comments about Rachel Maddow and he blocked me.

  • @fjccommish
    @fjccommish Рік тому

    This is supposed to be about wrestling, not about real estate. Let Eric talk.

  • @hermanmurry2812
    @hermanmurry2812 Рік тому +1

    That's why the aew EVPs bounce him around so much between themselves

  • @undertakerfanz628
    @undertakerfanz628 Рік тому +3

    I think Conrad wants to marry Dave meltzer he can't keep his name out of his mouth

  • @vilotfox1
    @vilotfox1 Рік тому

    Congratulations Eric Bischoff you reached 83,000 subscription 😂

  • @veegob5287
    @veegob5287 Рік тому +1

    David Bixenspan questioning anyone’s wrestling media credentials is hysterical!!! Who cares who is booking NOAH is ridiculous. 😂
    Meltzer reports random info from anyone, but 90% of “wrestling journalists” do the exact same thing. They all do this, but Meltzer built the genre, and showed them there is zero credibility to any of their 💩

  • @mrfixitishere
    @mrfixitishere Місяць тому

    I think Billy coragen had the best takedown of meltzer." You can't call yourself a journalist if you never get a sorce"

  • @jesterr7133
    @jesterr7133 Рік тому +1

    Comparing Uncle Dave to the National Enquirer is like comparing apples to oranges. Everyone knows the national Inquirer is for entertainment purposes. I know they even had disclaimers at one point. The difference between the two is that Uncle Dave presents his things as facts. In modern times, some of his things aren't even his opinion. For instance, it has been a couple of years since the Young Bucks have had a match that was rated less than five stars. Not even Bret Hart was rated that highly. Or Ric flair. Or any of the other greats you can think of. Like Eric said, it is clear that he has an agenda

  • @shinobi887
    @shinobi887 Рік тому

    I don't know if it's his lighting, but damn Conrad needs some sun.

  • @greenleaf2988
    @greenleaf2988 Рік тому

    What I don't understand is, why criticized Punk for the media scrum in which Meltzer was the center of all that but now criticized Meltzer for the very same reason Punk went off for??

    • @TheOldMPClub
      @TheOldMPClub Рік тому

      Because Punk's attitude is what sets off a lot of his peers. Exactly what sets off the attitude on any given day is irrelevant.

  • @Number9_Media1
    @Number9_Media1 Рік тому +1

    I live for Eric Bischoff's commentary

  • @cosborne06
    @cosborne06 6 місяців тому

    My favorite thing about Meltzer is that he pretends to have a mole within the small inner circle of WWE’s creative and decision makers. He’s such a con artist.

  • @creoleDJ
    @creoleDJ 6 місяців тому

    Even Bill Corgan clowned about Meltzer. But yet, Conrad always seems to defend him because they’re friends….

  • @robertt9342
    @robertt9342 Рік тому +2

    Melt zero is at best a gossip columnist. Not sure why people care about his ratings either.

    • @TL2354
      @TL2354 Рік тому +1

      What wasn’t melted?

  • @Rosadomofo
    @Rosadomofo Рік тому +1

    Eric was spot on 💯💯💯

  • @Motor7Mike
    @Motor7Mike Рік тому

    The Only Source Dave ever had on WWE is Chris Jericho

  • @TheMaskedCollector
    @TheMaskedCollector Рік тому +1

    Great real estate analogy!

  • @DFW817
    @DFW817 Рік тому +1

    I like EB, he speaks his mind and was in the business. So his opinion carries more weight.

    • @JohnnyDeur
      @JohnnyDeur Рік тому

      Eric probably spoke his mind in WWE and was fired in less than 4 months😂

  • @geektalkwithbrianfromearth1480

    Dave Meltzer is not a real journalist. As a aspiring journalist, the journalism boy scout rule no. 1 is that you never fabricate your facts or bullshit. Your commitment is to the truth. Meltzer is opiniated and (love it to death) AEW. At best, Meltzer is a commentator. As a journalist, I keep things objective and I do not tout myself as an expert like Dave. I learned at college that if you tout yourself as an expert, or someone who acts like they know more than the actual person ( like Meltzer), real journalists and readers will be having you for breakfast.

  • @mikehagge3904
    @mikehagge3904 Рік тому

    Imagine taking umbrage with a guy who makes up fake news about guys pretending to beat each other up.

  • @kevinclark5802
    @kevinclark5802 Рік тому

    Has anybody ever considered the possibility that Eric Bischoff and Dave Meltzer are really friends and are just working us? Conrad's main source for 83 weeks is Dave Meltzer and it is entertaining to see Bischoff get fired up about Meltzer's dirtsheet. Dare I say, 83 weeks wouldn't have survived without Dave Meltzer.

    • @johndawhale3197
      @johndawhale3197 Рік тому

      They are actually gay lovers according to Meltzer.

  • @Scorch1028
    @Scorch1028 Рік тому

    Eric Bischoff shouldn't talk about Conrad's boyfriend Dave Meltzer like that. 😆

  • @thetragicpope
    @thetragicpope Рік тому

    Dave Meltzer lost his relevancy when he started to abuse his star rating system.

  • @david29497
    @david29497 Рік тому

    Even I agree what he's said about Meltzer him saying he hardly ever blocks people is not true.

  • @RunDMG916
    @RunDMG916 Рік тому +3

    Dave "Fake News" Meltzer

  • @ashtonderoy6816
    @ashtonderoy6816 Рік тому

    I have no sympathy for the shareholders. What Dave Meltzer does? Should be protected under fair use. If Meltzer is corrupted. I am glad someone exposed him. That is also fair use.

  • @moffjerjerrod1579
    @moffjerjerrod1579 Рік тому

    No matter how many times someone like Bischoff or Prichard or Cornette can tell Conrad about how Meltzer is just full of crap, Conrad will still use him as a ‘source’ on these shows. Meltzer is the only mark bigger than Conrad. And he is full of ‘it’ and himself.

    • @goodday2760
      @goodday2760 Рік тому

      If you've seen masses then you've probably heard them reading the Bible less.

  • @TheOldMPClub
    @TheOldMPClub Рік тому

    Bischoff thinks like a performer
    Meltzer thinks like a critic
    Conrad thinks like an average joe

  • @metalheadjake3339
    @metalheadjake3339 Рік тому +2

    Eric Bischoff and Jim Cornette is BETTER than Melzter, Bixenspan, Sean Ross and Alvryez.
    I don't like these dirt sheet journalists at all.

  • @tonyarcherjnr
    @tonyarcherjnr Рік тому +3

    Melter ruins wrestling

  • @txmetalhead82xk
    @txmetalhead82xk Рік тому

    Awesome shirt, Conrad!

  • @matthewgates4130
    @matthewgates4130 Рік тому

    Troll on troll violence should be enjoyed by everyone

  • @JRAYDABEAST
    @JRAYDABEAST Рік тому +2

    I’ve been waiting for this video

  • @Robby_C
    @Robby_C Рік тому +1

    There is nothing “useful” about Meltzer.

  • @PontFlair
    @PontFlair Рік тому

    *7:06*
    I laughed out loud!! I'm sorry, Eric Bischoff is really starting to be THE GUY to me.
    Kudos to Conrad for shouting out Gary Hart R.I.P.
    Conrad: your boy Meltzer is P00P

  • @ronniemacdonald2768
    @ronniemacdonald2768 Рік тому

    Wait, isn't reading back issues of Meltzer's rags basically the whole premise of the "AdFreeShow" business model?

  • @jasonbennett6761
    @jasonbennett6761 Рік тому

    I wish wcw was still arond I still watch it on wwe net work even tho ther old