Please dude just this once it's my masters promo games please dude please please please. Please man just go GOATS I just want Masters so bad man please.
Trace not gonna lie that was me for my GM promotion game. But too be fair at that level it’s either the enemy team mirrors goats or it’s gg. Lots of free sr cause the enemy team refused to run goats.
I remember that people hated GOATS so much that people began to harass the voice actor for Brigitte via online and real life (as Brig was broken on release and the core support in the meta) like WTF thinking is that.
Its the internet. People say oh games and reality are different but guess what, the same exact people will harass VAs for a character they hate proving that games do in fact effect reality
@@LunaticJ MK did not take skill. He was able to air camp out almost the entire cast, all of his attacks had crazy frame data, he could ignore tripping by just not landing, shuttle loop had I frames and could kill by the ledge at 60%, he was the best scrooger due to his gliding
yeah but valve killed the r8 with the update, the r8 never got a chance to be a good weapon, valve made it to powerfull, but also nerfed it into the ground
And then the five Leroy Evo too, the current Fahk meta is terrible too. Season 3 has been so bad, especially since the game was pretty decent In season 2
This is a real OG one, but frost's shotgun when she came out? probably the most broken thing i've ever seen. thing could one tap to like 30m... they had to rework shotguns half a dozen times afterward.
The most annoying thing about the Lion meta is he would often be combined with Dokkaebi and Jackal. If you got tracked by Jackal while Lion's ability was active there was literally nothing you could do. You stay still; the pings from Jackal showed where you were. You move; every attacker can see your outline. Combine that with the audio cues from Dokkaebi and playing on defense was hell on earth.
@@Nthdegree2 it was, the recoil and headshot count got reduced which made it fun to use again, but nothing compared to the abomination that was the Boltshot.
@@Xfactor12345 Halo 4 was just kind of a bad meta in general TBH... being able to spawn with Plasma Grenades, Plasma Pistols, or the fucking Boltshot was extremely sus
Honestly I wasn't too surprised about the GOATS meta. When I first started playing OW I noticed that you could literally win without having any dps. They don't do nearly enough damage and are WAY to squishy. Surprised Blizzard didn't see that much earlier.
@@tyraywilkerson3180 Not really, 2-2-2 saved the game tbh. Finally, there were no 3, 4 or even 5 dps insta picks, which sucked for all tank or support players. Now the players, that liked the way comp used to be, have open queue. So in the end, everyone is satisfied. The vast majority of the playerbase that liked role queue can continue playing it. And the minority of players that didn't like role queue can now play open queue.
@@ExeTheEnhanced I have a reason to why I dont like 2/2/2 and its since I was a classic overwatch player like season 3 classic i stopped playing a season before role queue was added so i took along lengthy break from overwatch and when i return i was like I'll try comp and the queue times for dps was and will always be horrendous and I'm an aggressive player on anyclass tank support damage (obviously damage) so I decided to reintroduce my self to the defense category and since there's not one because its dps which saddens me so I have to sit through queue times longer than marriages
When did you started playing ? Brigitta + healing buff overall was the enable of goats. before that it wasn't good at all, you could just play spam comps with pharah and dominate 3-3
Golden Vids it was then brig came along. And despite every player the ever played the game that said delete her, they said 2/2/2 is where it’s at and now it’s fucking double shield
@@Pool.bruv23 no, double shield is meta in 4000+ to a stupid extent. brig zen dive is played in tourneys sometimes, but it's not like it's crazy hard meta, since it actually is kinda hard to execute properly. double shield takes literally 0 cooldown management/mechanical skill. a hogtied paraplegic could play either sigma or orisa and still be effective.
I was so casual in Overwatch that at one time QP-ing for my challenge rewards, I legit thought the other team was real hot stuff for managing to spawn camp us the entire match... only to find out that was just GOATing months later. Quite a chuckle that was. At least that wasn't widely known outside competitive and I still finished that challenge.
Juggernaut meta was pretty fun actually. Like it was exciting to watch. Ardent was kinda boring but it was ok. I just want the meta to change consistently, and not stay the same.
I came to see Tekken 7's Leroy Smith, after his first release, there were 7 Leroys in the top 8 of Evolution Championship Series 2019 and the only player who did not use Leroy did make it to the finals, but lost eventually. He had better verions of the strongest characters' strongest tools, like Jin's parry, Bryan's orbital(Leroy's parry, whose command was back1 was just slightly worse than Jin's parry, but had a larger hit-box). No matter how powerful a character has become, they never lead to most of the gaming gods to leave their mains and play him, but Leroy did. There is a video posted by theScore esports on him and a video made by basically the most famous Tekken-tuber, @TheMainManSWE.
At least Nintendo seems to be releasing non-top-tier DLC characters after joker lately. I kinda wish some of them weren't so bad though, the game is starting to get stale.
@@Vladd0r it was fine for shock and vancouver - I don't think it was bad to watch necessarily, I just think it looked terrible when a good team rolled a bad one. Unlike currently, it didn't even look close that's why goats was bad for owl. It made a few teams like good and the rest look poop.
Defintley not professional play but an honourable mention is destiny 2. Every meta haha. Specifically the prometheus lens when it dropped. What the absolute f*ck.
People in Destiny 2 just hate whenever whatever they themselves don’t use is meta. Shotgun players hate Snipers, Snipers hate Shotguns, hand cannon and pulse players hate auto rifles, auto rifle players hate when hand cannons and pulses are meta, scout rifle players... don’t exist,.
Even then, it's still not the worst meta in the game. GOATs was becoming less meta when 222 was launched, moving over towards CV style comps. Double shield was infinitely worse. Goats had its upsides, double shield made me quit.
Everytime I play Overwatch it feels like actually shooting someone with a gun does nothing. For a game that is supposed to be a fps, the guns seem to tickle while abilities do all the damage.
The thing that's really messed up about Goats is that Blizzard apparently felt they couldn't really even balance it out. Their solution was to just force an incredibly narrow draft space on the game. What a disaster.
@@louiscorona8465 Yeah, that's what I mean. The team seemed to think the balance problem was so severe there was no organic fix, and it could only be brute-forced.
Brigitte is the most OP hero ever, other gamedevs have the balls to recognize their mistake and take a character out of the game until it's balanced. Brig is STILL OP to this day.
All it took to ruin the game was Blizzard folding to shit players who didn't like dying to dive heroes because they don't understand teamplay and implementing Brigitte.
I am not familiar with the meta of goat but I played smash and being honesto bayonetta killed the game. Not only she was strong but she was safe to play if you tried to kill her she killed you, if you tried to run she outrunned you it was horrible. I cant compare these two but I can agree that these metas destroyed the game
@@zharls5658 I quit OW because of goats, my favorite game for YEARS I finally got grandmaster rank... Then goats. My 3000 hours in tracer became useless as my team screamed at me for not going goats and when I was able to play dps I got bodied.
@@Unregiyeah ok but even then, OW didn't lose nearly as much as smash did from ONE character, that and teams like Shangai were still able to win consistently when not going goats. That and it was still more interesting to watch than bayonetta
no, smash 4 bayo was worse. The game singlehandedly died because of her. smash 4 must have lost 10 times as many players as ow because of her. she made the best player want to quit even more then he already did and also made players lose at 40% because of 1 move hitting. bayo is number 1
@@tired150 nah smash 4 bayo didnt do as much damage as GOATS did tbh. The game was already on its way out due to ult anyways, plus the game itself was getting stale and developers didnt nerf her further more
@@JackXombi overwatch metas are shit, i'll give you that, but Overwatch 2 is actually pretty hyped, even though we got no information about it for months now. We know that there is Overwatch 2.
I play CS with R8, and when I was 1 tapping everyone one guy there was like "I FCKING HATE YOU PIKA SHOW THAT R8 UP YOUR ASS BISH AND DO NOT USE IT AGAIN"after that I killed him 8 more times with R8 XD
why, imo goats was pretty fun and skill intensive. you did need a very coordinated team to play though. It was way better than bunker or double snipers.
Disagree because TESO is a game where skill matter at first. In pvp you can perform realy good with 80% of specs, and the remaining 20% are not especially weak but sometimes their gameplay only works for some type of battles like 1v1 or cyrodil. About PvE it’s the same. You can do every raid achievements with 90% of specs. But player just copy top players who only aim for score pushing that of course will take the more optimized compositions to do so. So yeah some classes tend to be stronger by a little in some aspects depending on the patch but definitely not enough to be called broken. Atm and for almost a year meta has been pretty descent in my opinion.
Aphelios still broken play that 2nd time at diamond 1 got lane bullied but came late game down 1 item still win my team fight cause cait face check my mini turret on bush with sniper passive kill her lol.
@@nihonii3341 with X Factor 3 and Dark phoenix, she has so much damage and raw power that she can chip an entire team to death in the matter of seconds, let alone all the infinites she has in that state. You can literally play the game flawlessly up until the fact that you gave the Phoenix player full bar and still lose without touching her.
Does feel bad, but thats the point of MVC3 its made to be broken, many characters have infinites in that game. That broken gameplay is what makes it special/hype, like when justin wong won evo 2014 defeating some of the best players using said characters with a relatively weak team.
@@bigmach6812 oh yeah, honestly some of the most hype moments in the FGC came from people bopping dark phoenix since it seemed like such an inevitable fate. Ageojoe's frank west strat on filipino champ at FRXV had me jumping out of my seat lol.
It's always interesting when guns are discovered to be OP without any buffs. The cz, ump, aug/krieg. I wonder if there are more secretely OP guns we don't play to their full potential. The mp9 is a contender but not in the same league as the other ones.
My favorite part of the SG 553 meta in CS:GO is how the weapon was literally the same from 2014 through 2018, after which it received a price reduction and people finally noticed it was actually a good gun all along, maintaining popularity even after the price went back to the standard 3000. Took the players four years to notice the gun was relevant. I can't get over that hahahaha
@@sieevansetiawan4792 Because they aren't? A good AWPer will always beat the autosniper. Autosnipers are good for spamming for some wallbangs, but aside from that, they just cost too much.
Yea but at least Meta Knight was fun to watch. Not to mention for the last 2 or so years of Brawl’s lifespan, MK wasn’t played that much in comp. I’d rather sit thru a tournament of MK dittos than a tournament of Bayo dittos
They were talking about the metas that made people want to stop playing, not the ones that cultivated extremely skillful and hype matches and single handedly carried its e-sport's career until people found more skill and hype in Melee.
Meta Knight was probably more OP then Bayo, but Brawl didn't have a thriving competetive community when he was introduced. Hell I think Bayonetta is the reason Ultimates DLC's been alright but not top tier outside of Joker or some really really good terrys.
Aaaaaaaah yes, hauntzer's nautilus tanking nexus towers forever without taking any damage or Cho'gat killing you in your fountain when you play solo queue. What a GREAT TIME.
Agreed. The Shock v. Titans Stage One Finals of Season 2 was one of the greatest, if not the greatest, Overwatch I had ever seen. But that's just the top 1% of GOATS play, even at the pro level. Anything short of that was awful.
Hey theScore team, how about a series of stories specifically on esports teams' coaches, not only the ones standing behind the players on drafts/during matches, but also staff/analysts or any other vital members of an org?
Leroy meta from Tekken 7 the beginning of the year was something as well. The whole roster could be used somewhere before Leroy’s release. After the release, EVO Japan had like a 75% pick rate on him alone as well as a person who was a character loyalist; dropping his character and winning the tourney in the end
When Dark Harvest first came out I uninstalled League of Legends until they fixed it. The game I left had 9 players with Dark Harvest and I was died from almost half hp to Brand E. Uninstalled the game immediately and waited for Riot to see some sense.
@@cadenhenderson4322 Legue of Stopwatch was most hillarious. Literally everyone had it and early fights used to go forever just as somebody is about to die they use it then another one uses and another one. I don't think anyone on any champion entered a game without Inspiration tree runes. At least in Thunderlords meta some auto attackers still ran Fervor of Battle.
The weird thing about the Sg553 is that its been like that for a long time. Only when the price got reduced and people started you know using it suddenly it became op
To people who dont know Smash 4’s bayonetta, just imagine a fighting game character who has a lot of mobility and can kill off of almost any attack plus she is still safe if the enemy blocks it. That’s not even all as she can also slow time or teleport away briefly after getting damaged.....
to be fair alot of the chars didnt have alot of tools to even counter her and the way smash is played makes her even worse a character like that wouldnt work that much in any other fg
Funny part is, towards the end of Sm4sh Esam was consistently taking out all the Bayo's, finally making his "Pikachu busted" have some merit in at least being a counterpick to the best character in the game.
It would be incredibly easy to make a list of this with just League of Legends metas. Lethality/Assassin meta: Everyone can oneshot you Tank meta: Nothing can kill tanks because their items were busted Ardent meta: ADC/support 2v5 the game juggernaut Meta: What's new Banner of Command meta: Buff up a cannon minion and sit there. Mage Bot Lane (adc's were no longer valid): ADC's no longer did damage, mages replaced them. *Here's the big one you guys missed* : Funnel. BASICALLY: Mid laner plays a support, Jungle plays a carry and gets mid + jungle gold, then watch them scale and win at 30 minutes.
Fun fact regarding the broodlord infestor meta in Starcraft 2 : It came back in 2019 and it was even worse than before. It lasted one year, and top Z players pretty much never lost a late game situation with this comp
OWL teams tried running 3 tanks and 3 supports before GOATS came around. The only thing stopping it at that point (end of season 1) was Mercy... Then she got nerfed.
Yes but you could say that for every game and it wouldnt be enjoyable to watch as not everyone plays r6 or any of the games on this list for that matter
How come you guys always forget when Banner Of Command was built by literally every champ because it was so strong? imo it was hilarious but my god was it broken
Do another one with One Eyed Mask and Lord Of The Wolves from Destiny 2. One Eyed Mask was so broken that playing any other class aside from Titan wasn't worth it. Lord of the Wolves was broken for an entire season and it was even paired with One Eyed Mask
Somebody in here remember the fckfest D1 crucible was back in the days with the sniper shotgun meta? I still remember getting kills with my Felwinters that were straight up unfair
Age of Empires: Spanish Workers Rush War for the Overworld: Behemoth Rush Dungeon Keeper 2: Black Knight Rush Warcraft 3: Keeper Fungle CoD Mw 2019: M4 and MP5 (till this day) RB6 Siege: BlackBeard Blitz, or Ela SC II: Masa's Proxy against Scalett
wait what. For AOE2, spanish worker rush isn't even that great, its barely ever played at top level. its a late game strategy and villagers don't even autoatk.
@@loganernest9499 Meh, call of duty is a twitch based shooter. Positioning matters more. Sure 1887s were better than every other shotgun in the game, but shot guns weren't all that good unless you were on console.
@@blushingralseiuwu2222 dotas even worse theyre so slow at balancing it takes months for them to patch something, atleast league has faster patches even if sometimes it becomes unbalanced
Warden doesn't counter the yellow meta. He countered the smoke/flash and plant meta (which was nerfed out of the game before he even released). The yellow meta was pretty much just lion being insanely broken or people running Lion, Finka and Blitz (hence the yellow name) and steamrolling defences
Warden came out way after Lion was nerfed and his ability has no interaction with Lion. Warden was introduced to counter the flash smoke meta with ying and glaz, usually with blitz as well as another set of smokes.
That broodlord infestor meta was the most broken thing in SC2. Protoss players even tried building Phoenix's which are air to air specialists but even they got locked down by the fungal growth. Like how is a flying unit gonna get rooted in place?!
I quit before they imimated 2/2/2 and holy shit I was just a plat rank almost diamond the rank is low asf and all u saw every game pahra merci or goats or even both (yes I was a console player)
If it makes you feel any better, number 1 shows the most infamous EVO Grand Finals in history. A competitive community that already struggles to be boradcasted and we get 1 minute of stalling at the biggest stage for that game, competitors being booed for choosing the most obviously broken character. It's a good thing Ultimate came later that year because Sm4sh was dying fast after that display.
@@OsKarMike1306 I've heard of this allot from the smash community. Hbox and those 2 sure the game was unbalanced but the community crossed a line imagen we made fun of every team because they used lion smh
15:30 dude I was there for this game, the crowd was PISSED man. And one of the staff had to like threaten both of them with disqualification just so they would play the game.
Not really because it’s a hex which can be found in the first 10 seconds of a game if they’re lucky but I agree it was aids now it’s almost useless unless killer is super mobile
The thing that saves DBD for me is that it's so RNG heavy that it's not meant to be taken seriously anyways (even ranks don't really matter in that game aside from playtime) so there's no balance integrity to break there. I agree that no perk should be a must pick 80%+ of the time as ruin was though.
They forgot the IO-domi-aghs of OG. It ruined pubs for months even causing players to leave a match and accept the penalties for it when there's an IO on the game.
The thing is that meta isn’t easy to play you need pretty good coordinated team to make it work a good example when Team Secret tried to play the meta it didn’t work
some Dota 2 special mentions: - illusion meta. imagine the enemy destroying your base without any consequences (illusions doesn't give gold yet when killed) - Leshrac meta. with heavy aoe slow that can setup the aoe stun plus 2 other hi dps aoe skills, no wonder he was perma banned in pro matches - Morph + ES one. imagine giving an already hi damage burst hero: 2 aoe stuns plus another burst ability.
I remember the Morph + ES meta well. Made me scared enough to build anything that was magic defense or health every game a morph was picked against me. Also remember the Tinker meta? Hour plus games were so common I'd block out at least an hour and a half for a game so I would have enough time if there was a Tinker (in that patch, there almost always was).
Ah yes. The most popular question in esports history: Can we go goats?
I will find you
GOATS
Please dude just this once it's my masters promo games please dude please please please. Please man just go GOATS I just want Masters so bad man please.
Trace not gonna lie that was me for my GM promotion game. But too be fair at that level it’s either the enemy team mirrors goats or it’s gg. Lots of free sr cause the enemy team refused to run goats.
It even worked in Bronze. I played it twice, once as the Brigitte and once as the Reinhardt. Won both times easily.
I remember that people hated GOATS so much that people began to harass the voice actor for Brigitte via online and real life (as Brig was broken on release and the core support in the meta) like WTF thinking is that.
Its the internet. People say oh games and reality are different but guess what, the same exact people will harass VAs for a character they hate proving that games do in fact effect reality
Because gamers can be the most toxic kind of persons you meet on the internet.
@@pedinhuh16 no shit shercock
Wasnt she also op after Roll Lock?
legit like they called her fucking fat like wtf
What about META knight...he literally has the word META in his name
Meta Knight took skill to play tho
@gebi that isn't true from 2009-2013 more people were playing Brawl than Melee to the point where melee was actually dying
@@LunaticJ MK did not take skill. He was able to air camp out almost the entire cast, all of his attacks had crazy frame data, he could ignore tripping by just not landing, shuttle loop had I frames and could kill by the ledge at 60%, he was the best scrooger due to his gliding
@@GuenterErde1 ICs were more braindead and easy. MK dittos were actually sick
Myqin air camping was banned
Screw lion and goats in siege and overwatch they literally made fans leave the game
Now it's ying and basically the entire game for siege now lmfao
Goats wasn't *that* bad tbh.
It was at least fun to play
Lion
Finka
Glaz
Blitz
Ying
Jackal
Dokkaebi
Pick any 5 and that's operation chimera in a nutshell
@@prod.erebus 4+lion you mean
Goats was fun to play if you were good at it, but it was hilarious how bad Blizzard was at balancing to counter it
Bro the R8 could one shot across the MAP in the stomach lmao. The most fun 2 days in competitive ever lmao
Not really but yeah
It was fucking hilarious with the boys, now they all left
True it was pretty hilarious
also remember when you could just kill everyone before the round started by just right clicking? great times
yeah but valve killed the r8 with the update, the r8 never got a chance to be a good weapon, valve made it to powerfull, but also nerfed it into the ground
Leroy Smith, Tekken 7? When he dropped, I fought 95+ percent Leroy in online ranked!
And then the five Leroy Evo too, the current Fahk meta is terrible too. Season 3 has been so bad, especially since the game was pretty decent In season 2
@@INSOMNIACification dont worry, season 4 will be great.
@@INSOMNIACification It wasn't 5, it was 6 or 7
@@malcocanedo9061 6x in top 10 was fahkumram iirc
I still fight him all the time lmao
"I survived AUG Week" would make a good t shirt.
inotorious reference
I think goats was worse then bayonetta goats literally removed a whole role for a year
Masherpertater 5 meh, even after nerfs bayo was still the best.
iCrazyBlaze Ardent Cancer would be great too.
"I survived the R8 days"
Seems like people forgot about blackbeard days on siege. no one was safe xD
Siege wasn't much of an esport back at the bb times, so it's understandable. Honorable mention would be nice tho
What about og ela
Zain R6 right? Her launch Scorpion was a death hose.
@@borismuller86 duude I remember that it had no recoil, an LMG like mag, and shot fast as hell
This is a real OG one, but frost's shotgun when she came out? probably the most broken thing i've ever seen. thing could one tap to like 30m... they had to rework shotguns half a dozen times afterward.
The most annoying thing about the Lion meta is he would often be combined with Dokkaebi and Jackal. If you got tracked by Jackal while Lion's ability was active there was literally nothing you could do. You stay still; the pings from Jackal showed where you were. You move; every attacker can see your outline. Combine that with the audio cues from Dokkaebi and playing on defense was hell on earth.
And don't forget Blitz who'd blind you as you're forced to stand still.
without even watching the video i knew goats would be there
It was blatantly obvious, goats was so bad to watch and play/play against in ranked
WDYM i enjoyed playing goats even nowdays in open q ranked Kreygasm
I ran into a six stack using goats in no limits just last week. Is that what people do for fun?
goats so broken blizzard had to force 2-2-2 LULW
if you didn't say "goats" in your head when you read the words "broken meta" then you just don't know...
Tekken 7 - Leroy. single handedly ruined Evo Japan 2020.
so cancer even thinking about it..
oh boy, that shit haunts me to this day
not op unless his last name is jenkins
How about tekken 6 bob
This, 100% all the way. It was so abysmal to watch. I skipped watching top 8 that year
Remember when you could aim at the floor with a shotgun in Halo: The Master Chief Collection and kill people? Yeah me too.
i thought the carbine was busted when halo 4 came out, the gun was a headshot machine
@@Nthdegree2 it was, the recoil and headshot count got reduced which made it fun to use again, but nothing compared to the abomination that was the Boltshot.
@@Xfactor12345 Halo 4 was just kind of a bad meta in general TBH... being able to spawn with Plasma Grenades, Plasma Pistols, or the fucking Boltshot was extremely sus
Honestly I wasn't too surprised about the GOATS meta. When I first started playing OW I noticed that you could literally win without having any dps. They don't do nearly enough damage and are WAY to squishy. Surprised Blizzard didn't see that much earlier.
2/2/2 is lame tho it kills the fun for casual too
@@tyraywilkerson3180 Not really, 2-2-2 saved the game tbh. Finally, there were no 3, 4 or even 5 dps insta picks, which sucked for all tank or support players. Now the players, that liked the way comp used to be, have open queue. So in the end, everyone is satisfied. The vast majority of the playerbase that liked role queue can continue playing it. And the minority of players that didn't like role queue can now play open queue.
@@ExeTheEnhanced I have a reason to why I dont like 2/2/2 and its since I was a classic overwatch player like season 3 classic i stopped playing a season before role queue was added so i took along lengthy break from overwatch and when i return i was like I'll try comp and the queue times for dps was and will always be horrendous and I'm an aggressive player on anyclass tank support damage (obviously damage) so I decided to reintroduce my self to the defense category and since there's not one because its dps which saddens me so I have to sit through queue times longer than marriages
When did you started playing ?
Brigitta + healing buff overall was the enable of goats. before that it wasn't good at all, you could just play spam comps with pharah and dominate 3-3
@@ExeTheEnhanced 2-2-2 how to tell people you fucking failed as balance design for your game.
OW players: there is nothing that is going to last as long as dive
OW devs: we are going to destroy everyone's whole careers (including ours)
Dive was at least fun and interesting to watch
Golden Vids it was then brig came along. And despite every player the ever played the game that said delete her, they said 2/2/2 is where it’s at and now it’s fucking double shield
@@jabarihill4318 it's not double shield btw it's brig zen dive
@@Pool.bruv23 no, double shield is meta in 4000+ to a stupid extent. brig zen dive is played in tourneys sometimes, but it's not like it's crazy hard meta, since it actually is kinda hard to execute properly. double shield takes literally 0 cooldown management/mechanical skill. a hogtied paraplegic could play either sigma or orisa and still be effective.
@@ceibacat that was until they nerfed them and now its mei plus 2 tanks to have a 3 tank team
I still get PTSD everytime when i hear "Can we go goats"
Bro cmon goats is fun
@@noahchoi8430 lol what rank r u
@@FIGHTNATION432 gold you?
@@noahchoi8430 high masters and GM
@@FIGHTNATION432 holy shit nice
any time Overwatch makes it into the top 3 of one of these lists I know it's about GOATS or something else negative lmaooo
Brigitte perfected GOATS, she didn't cause it. The first goats comp was based on Anna being able to charge up her ult super fast with multiple tanks.
DIVE is best meta though
@@philithegamer8265 facts
I was so casual in Overwatch that at one time QP-ing for my challenge rewards, I legit thought the other team was real hot stuff for managing to spawn camp us the entire match... only to find out that was just GOATing months later. Quite a chuckle that was. At least that wasn't widely known outside competitive and I still finished that challenge.
2015 Riot apologies for the Juggernaut Meta -> 2017 Riot implements the Ardent Censer Meta
Current death dance is worse than ardent. Atleast the adc was able to die back then, now they're just fucking tanks
@@Godspamit ???? Just play OP champs. Love abusing shit.
200 years
Juggernaut meta was pretty fun actually. Like it was exciting to watch. Ardent was kinda boring but it was ok. I just want the meta to change consistently, and not stay the same.
@@fabachso9184 Yah, getting nerfed next patch pretty hard, so should be gone :)
How about the Leroy meta from Tekken 7, that character ruined EVO japan.
It was a nightmare
The Leeroy meta was pretty bad (unfortunately too, since Leeroy's a cool character.) but at least they got on that relatively quickly.
what like we saw 7 leroy's in grand finals?
I thought the leeroy from hearthstone hahaha
Book won with him
I came to see Tekken 7's Leroy Smith, after his first release, there were 7 Leroys in the top 8 of Evolution Championship Series 2019 and the only player who did not use Leroy did make it to the finals, but lost eventually. He had better verions of the strongest characters' strongest tools, like Jin's parry, Bryan's orbital(Leroy's parry, whose command was back1 was just slightly worse than Jin's parry, but had a larger hit-box). No matter how powerful a character has become, they never lead to most of the gaming gods to leave their mains and play him, but Leroy did. There is a video posted by theScore esports on him and a video made by basically the most famous Tekken-tuber, @TheMainManSWE.
Especially in a game Tekken where a panda that's been playing long enough is viable to win a tournament
Brood Lord Infestor was broken but I think the Swarm Host Meta during Heart of the Swarm was much worse
Swarm host killed a bunch of peoples love for sc2 i played before and after heart of the swarm and im glad i dodged that bullet
I never like Heart of the Swarm
Wait, you don't enjoy 50 minute games?
I agree, Swarm Hosts killed Starcraft 2. And it never recovered
agreed. nydus worms/swarm hosts meta is way worse
i love the face on zero vs salem after zero was just "really man?"
You forgot a meta here. The people who fought against the GOATs tactic.
Those were "The Men Who Stare At Goats"
hindsight is 2020, literally. the fact that a dlc character destroyed smash bros is just so depressing.
It wasn't even the first time either, Brawl Meta Knight was debatebly worse than s4 bayo.
@@yeahok9222 I can see that argument, but MK wasn't a DLC character.
@@yeahok9222 brawl meta knight vs meta knight was a good match up to watch
@@the_wake_ fair enough
At least Nintendo seems to be releasing non-top-tier DLC characters after joker lately. I kinda wish some of them weren't so bad though, the game is starting to get stale.
Before I watch: OW Goats has to be in there.
Yep, high up as well
@@thegipper1215 As bad as it was for OW League. It was actually fun to play, I was the Brig player for my clan 😂
@@Vladd0r it was fine for shock and vancouver - I don't think it was bad to watch necessarily, I just think it looked terrible when a good team rolled a bad one. Unlike currently, it didn't even look close that's why goats was bad for owl. It made a few teams like good and the rest look poop.
@@symbolitical4158 Yup. It came down to the better Zarya on a team and cd management
@@Vladd0r I can tell you it was NOT fun to play the Rein.
Defintley not professional play but an honourable mention is destiny 2. Every meta haha. Specifically the prometheus lens when it dropped. What the absolute f*ck.
One Eyed Mask meta all the way
@@rajeshsawant2474 d1 last word/ thorn was much worse
Lazer tag pew pew
People in Destiny 2 just hate whenever whatever they themselves don’t use is meta. Shotgun players hate Snipers, Snipers hate Shotguns, hand cannon and pulse players hate auto rifles, auto rifle players hate when hand cannons and pulses are meta, scout rifle players... don’t exist,.
Awww I remember laser tag week, that was by far the most broken thing I've seen
I can see ZeRo being like: “This game was a mistake”
An actual quote
@@okiessb2018 Is it? Well fuck I guess I am lucky.
Agreed
Bayo Sm4sh = Broken
MK Brawl : *W H E E Z E*
Shiiit best timing ever?
As a long time OW player, I knew GOATS was going to be high on here. Nearly killed the game. OW still hasn't been the same since Brig was released.
Even then, it's still not the worst meta in the game. GOATs was becoming less meta when 222 was launched, moving over towards CV style comps. Double shield was infinitely worse. Goats had its upsides, double shield made me quit.
Now Mei is the problem
@@YoukilisTHSGEMB Mei is still kinda broken, although the game is in a really good place in terms of comp variety rn
I think goat is what killed OW
Just a an esport imo
Everytime I play Overwatch it feels like actually shooting someone with a gun does nothing. For a game that is supposed to be a fps, the guns seem to tickle while abilities do all the damage.
Wow! It's almost like overwatch is a 1st person moba!
@@chad5115 Thats not an excuse though, SMITE is a 3rd person MOBA and players die 3 times as quickly as they do in Overwatch.
I feel like that’s just Blizzard design tbh
@@Meitti OK and?
@@chad5115 And it means your excuse is terrible. MOBA doesnt mean that things die slowly in the game.
The thing that's really messed up about Goats is that Blizzard apparently felt they couldn't really even balance it out. Their solution was to just force an incredibly narrow draft space on the game.
What a disaster.
Bro, if 222 wasn’t in the game, we would still play goats, but with orisa.
@@louiscorona8465 Yeah, that's what I mean. The team seemed to think the balance problem was so severe there was no organic fix, and it could only be brute-forced.
Brigitte is the most OP hero ever, other gamedevs have the balls to recognize their mistake and take a character out of the game until it's balanced. Brig is STILL OP to this day.
v zxt ??? You have no idea what your talking about
@@fuzesthehostage7298 Brig is OP. It takes more skill to play a kazoo than it does to play Brig.
I love how it took making the game unplayable to finally get blizzard to put in 2/2/2
Dude you were probably in plat where no one even played goats
@Mosquito x2 shield Zzz
@@agnars6810 we plat players had our fair share of goats
my guy you act like you didnt have fun playing goats
All it took to ruin the game was Blizzard folding to shit players who didn't like dying to dive heroes because they don't understand teamplay and implementing Brigitte.
Gm players: has to deal with GOATS
Me: is in silver/gold elo so I don’t have to deal with metas
Nah, there was the glass nuke meta
Accounting for the damage and how much money was lost (players leaving) goats shout be not number 1 but 0
I am not familiar with the meta of goat but I played smash and being honesto bayonetta killed the game. Not only she was strong but she was safe to play if you tried to kill her she killed you, if you tried to run she outrunned you it was horrible. I cant compare these two but I can agree that these metas destroyed the game
@@zharls5658 I quit OW because of goats, my favorite game for YEARS I finally got grandmaster rank... Then goats. My 3000 hours in tracer became useless as my team screamed at me for not going goats and when I was able to play dps I got bodied.
@@Unregiyeah ok but even then, OW didn't lose nearly as much as smash did from ONE character, that and teams like Shangai were still able to win consistently when not going goats. That and it was still more interesting to watch than bayonetta
no, smash 4 bayo was worse. The game singlehandedly died because of her. smash 4 must have lost 10 times as many players as ow because of her. she made the best player want to quit even more then he already did and also made players lose at 40% because of 1 move hitting. bayo is number 1
@@tired150 nah smash 4 bayo didnt do as much damage as GOATS did tbh. The game was already on its way out due to ult anyways, plus the game itself was getting stale and developers didnt nerf her further more
That r6 strat, i call "Chimera Meta"
-Lion
-Finka
-Jackal
-Dokeabi
-Ying or blitz
Ah yes. Cancer Squad. Good times
Lion, finka, dok, blitz, blackbeard is still pocket strat for 3rd obj.
Swap Finka for Ash lol
Yellow meta
Omfg
I love how they show the patchnotes were the SG was nerfed and two lines under it there is ne next broken meta XD
yea, the jumping Deagle was straight bullshit as well. Not as bad as the R8 but still terrible.
Expected GOATS and LION in the top 3, they were so broken that they almost break the whole game.
No almost. OW's shit metas got so tiring that a lot of fans wrote off the whole series. Like, did you know there's an OverWatch 2 ?
@@JackXombi overwatch metas are shit, i'll give you that, but Overwatch 2 is actually pretty hyped, even though we got no information about it for months now. We know that there is Overwatch 2.
Was hoping r8 would be higher, remember when it came out. Was just r8 vs r8 for days.
GOATS meta did kill OW lmao
Almost?
‘Sniper has a brainless kit’ shows only Kyle playing him
CS:GO R8 Meta Is Broken
We Players : ITS HIGH.... NOON
DRAWWWWWWWW
I play CS with R8, and when I was 1 tapping everyone one guy there was like "I FCKING HATE YOU PIKA SHOW THAT R8 UP YOUR ASS BISH AND DO NOT USE IT AGAIN"after that I killed him 8 more times with R8 XD
GOATS killed Overwatch for me
why, imo goats was pretty fun and skill intensive. you did need a very coordinated team to play though. It was way better than bunker or double snipers.
I have flash backs when I hear brig
The game really started to go downhill for me when they added brigitte
Dude goats was not skill intensive, maybe at the highest level but it really wasn’t, like at all, for most players anyway.
Goats was the most fun ive had in Overwatch BY FAR
I used to play Elder Scrolls Online, and that game had the worst metas of all time. The devs could never balance.
Fortnite as well
ah yeah the 2018 Magicka Nightblade meta because they were the only class that could sustain
Disagree because TESO is a game where skill matter at first.
In pvp you can perform realy good with 80% of specs, and the remaining 20% are not especially weak but sometimes their gameplay only works for some type of battles like 1v1 or cyrodil.
About PvE it’s the same. You can do every raid achievements with 90% of specs. But player just copy top players who only aim for score pushing that of course will take the more optimized compositions to do so.
So yeah some classes tend to be stronger by a little in some aspects depending on the patch but definitely not enough to be called broken.
Atm and for almost a year meta has been pretty descent in my opinion.
OMFG This... I got so sick of being destroyed by nothing but Magicka Nightblade and Magicka Dragon and fkin Werewolves....
That game just sucks in general
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Fs for my boy zero his expresion says:
why are we still here just to suffer
Honestly i miss old overwatch, if GOATS hadn’t changed it to what it is now
andoo boi I agree so much... I wish we could go back to before Brigitte and never release that fking stupid character
@@alexandrecuny2186 BRO I AGREE MORE THAN U EVER THINK
@@alexandrecuny2186 so you would rather play double sniper 3 tanks mercy or deathball? Goats was best
@@cyaqc7197 wake up
@@Mongoliantiger
Yeah that's why the vast majority of your game's fanbase has been wanting it gone
Ah season 7, back when adc was a fun and viable role, because another role boosted it up.
it definitly wasnt fun for the other 4 people.
ah yes because deaths dance aphelios wasnt op at all..
@@blackbelt807 Sett says hi.
Da gab es auch noch i porte durch die kluft und hab 99% banrate kassawin
Aphelios still broken play that 2nd time at diamond 1 got lane bullied but came late game down 1 item still win my team fight cause cait face check my mini turret on bush with sniper passive kill her lol.
I find it funny that the Bayonetta meta is at the top of this list, despite Smash's rep among eSports.
ikr
Well, she _did_ absolutely wreck the entirety of Smash 4...
Being from all these communities, Bayonetta literally made me quit Sm4sh, only change that made me want to quit a game
I find it funny they didn't mention meta knight from brawl. The setup was perfect.
@@dreadcrimson7966 Like meta knight still does i melee?
Sorry guys, nothing makes you feel like you're actually losing the game when you're winning like facing a XF3 Dark Phoenix/Vergil in MVC3.
REAL OG here ^
Might wanna give some context about that? Did that like break the game? I know Vergil in that game is already pretty strong, but just curious
@@nihonii3341 with X Factor 3 and Dark phoenix, she has so much damage and raw power that she can chip an entire team to death in the matter of seconds, let alone all the infinites she has in that state. You can literally play the game flawlessly up until the fact that you gave the Phoenix player full bar and still lose without touching her.
Does feel bad, but thats the point of MVC3 its made to be broken, many characters have infinites in that game. That broken gameplay is what makes it special/hype, like when justin wong won evo 2014 defeating some of the best players using said characters with a relatively weak team.
@@bigmach6812 oh yeah, honestly some of the most hype moments in the FGC came from people bopping dark phoenix since it seemed like such an inevitable fate. Ageojoe's frank west strat on filipino champ at FRXV had me jumping out of my seat lol.
The Kreig meta made me want to jump off a bridge: make it a skyscraper
It's always interesting when guns are discovered to be OP without any buffs. The cz, ump, aug/krieg. I wonder if there are more secretely OP guns we don't play to their full potential. The mp9 is a contender but not in the same league as the other ones.
@@endro7503 Right. The five seven and autoshotty are also contenders in my opinion.
@@ennex_3 The autoshotty already gets some play on nuke if you hold mini.
I remember the Fungal meta, it was a time where Zerg players ruled, before Protoss took over the torch.
It was also Infested Terran meta
I feel the Swarmhost meta was worse. You had boring games that took hours.
but i still enjoyed watching sc2 back then. The race for terran and toss to break the zerg before he got his greater spire.
Yeah i enjoyed it back in the day as well. I never felt SC 2 got so imbalanced that made a lesser player steal the game
My favorite part of the SG 553 meta in CS:GO is how the weapon was literally the same from 2014 through 2018, after which it received a price reduction and people finally noticed it was actually a good gun all along, maintaining popularity even after the price went back to the standard 3000.
Took the players four years to notice the gun was relevant. I can't get over that hahahaha
It was bc it was considered a noob-bot weapon
And community still don't understand how OP autosnipers are.
@@sieevansetiawan4792 Because they aren't? A good AWPer will always beat the autosniper.
Autosnipers are good for spamming for some wallbangs, but aside from that, they just cost too much.
Actually this gun existed from the beginning of Half Life: Counterstrike mods. So it cost community decades to find out how broken it is.
@@superspies32 the previous iterations weren't as powerful as the sg 553 though. Source's one, for example, couldn't kill in one headshot.
it seems they forgot about brawl, like holy hell meta knight was straight up bullcrap.
Yea but at least Meta Knight was fun to watch. Not to mention for the last 2 or so years of Brawl’s lifespan, MK wasn’t played that much in comp. I’d rather sit thru a tournament of MK dittos than a tournament of Bayo dittos
William Parker not to mention that MK dittos has a lot of depth behind them. One wrong move and you were fucked.
They were talking about the metas that made people want to stop playing, not the ones that cultivated extremely skillful and hype matches and single handedly carried its e-sport's career until people found more skill and hype in Melee.
*went back to melee* :)
Meta Knight was probably more OP then Bayo, but Brawl didn't have a thriving competetive community when he was introduced.
Hell I think Bayonetta is the reason Ultimates DLC's been alright but not top tier outside of Joker or some really really good terrys.
ubi: what should we give chimera attack op?
also ubi: HACKS
Leeroy Smith from Tekken would like a word with the creator of this video.
At least give the dude an honorable mention
I agree, i was thinking it was going to on the list.
Yesssss
Ruined the entire Evo japan single handedly
Oh My Gosh leeroy was cancer, players that literally played the same character for years picked him.
That was some real BS
My friend who played competitively said that almost everyone played Leeroy in that time, which he was unprepared since it was so new.
theScore esports : *presents the Ardent Censer meta in LoL*
me, an intellectual : HoW aBoUt ThE tAnK mEtA ???
Aaaaaaaah yes, hauntzer's nautilus tanking nexus towers forever without taking any damage or Cho'gat killing you in your fountain when you play solo queue. What a GREAT TIME.
i thougt it was n1 but wow many of my people quite league back then it was by far the worst meta ever
It's seems like every meta is tank meta
Remember when they killed ADC?
What about the banner of command meta? Was probably the funniest meta
Was this the Cinderhulk Jungler/Courage of the Colossus meta? Back when every team had like 3 tanks minimum?
Let's be honest here: Captain Zach was mostly hated for IRL taunting his opponents on win... and later for a lot of other reasons...
Yeah, Lima and Tamim are decent enough guys, Zach just breeds toxicity whether he tries to or not
Zach was a big instigator of so many problems in the community
What he did to nario back in july was awful.
PEAK GOATS were the best matches I've ever watched, but everything that wasn't PEAK GOATS was really boring to watch
cant forget the time where bumper was alphad by Ameng
@@ryanmackie6936 yes
RIP Bumper
Agreed. The Shock v. Titans Stage One
Finals of Season 2 was one of the greatest, if not the greatest, Overwatch I had ever seen. But that's just the top 1% of GOATS play, even at the pro level. Anything short of that was awful.
Yea, otherwise it was basically tanks vs tanks trying to find someone to mess up then win fight from there, stun, dive, and then win. Boring as fuck.
Hey theScore team, how about a series of stories specifically on esports teams' coaches, not only the ones standing behind the players on drafts/during matches, but also staff/analysts or any other vital members of an org?
Leroy meta from Tekken 7 the beginning of the year was something as well. The whole roster could be used somewhere before Leroy’s release. After the release, EVO Japan had like a 75% pick rate on him alone as well as a person who was a character loyalist; dropping his character and winning the tourney in the end
Lol they recently made a video on that
More starcraft 2 content please. It always makes me smile whenever I see a score esports video about starcraft
Lmaooo, the R8 release was absolutely bonkers. That was a fun few days.
Yea especially being allowed to shoot with rmb while defusing
As a non pro player this was the most fun time i had in csgo.
When Dark Harvest first came out I uninstalled League of Legends until they fixed it. The game I left had 9 players with Dark Harvest and I was died from almost half hp to Brand E. Uninstalled the game immediately and waited for Riot to see some sense.
Remember League of Thunderlord’s?
Oh my god true......
@@cadenhenderson4322 Legue of Stopwatch was most hillarious. Literally everyone had it and early fights used to go forever just as somebody is about to die they use it then another one uses and another one. I don't think anyone on any champion entered a game without Inspiration tree runes. At least in Thunderlords meta some auto attackers still ran Fervor of Battle.
Man watching LoL having never played it before, looks crazy 😂😂
Its definitely hard to watch at first
N3ON Valkyrie its also hard to play at first. But you start to get into it real fast
Pro gameplay is literally NOTHING like normal gameplay
Yeah i never have any clue what's going on onscreen and people are popping off and losing their shit and I'm just like "what happened?"
You should watch Dota 2 then. Much more complex and fast.
Number 8: When it's always High Noon
"222 role lock changing how we play overwatch" mhmm. Let me introduce to you my friends "bunker" and "pharmercy".
Remove bastion from the game
@@kyogremaster7693 yes pls
Remember when the deagle got insanely accurate when jumping
Yup
i still couldnt use it for shit lmao
They really put an Ultimate clip in the Bayonetta montage huh
Lol wtf
Better graphics?
The weird thing about the Sg553 is that its been like that for a long time. Only when the price got reduced and people started you know using it suddenly it became op
Im not gonna lie i loved when the revolver got released, people spaming chat after you one shot them across the map was fun.
also the only time people new in the patch throw away awps for revolvers
Haven't seen the video but as a League player, Ardent Cancer meta is 100% gonna be here.
Player: we want League of legends balance..
Riot: hisssss
To people who dont know Smash 4’s bayonetta, just imagine a fighting game character who has a lot of mobility and can kill off of almost any attack plus she is still safe if the enemy blocks it. That’s not even all as she can also slow time or teleport away briefly after getting damaged.....
she even got nerfed really badly, and was still by far the best character in the game and the best smash character in history imo
to be fair alot of the chars didnt have alot of tools to even counter her and the way smash is played makes her even worse a character like that wouldnt work that much in any other fg
Funny part is, towards the end of Sm4sh Esam was consistently taking out all the Bayo's, finally making his "Pikachu busted" have some merit in at least being a counterpick to the best character in the game.
@@XC11301991 it might not be a counter pick it could of been all of esams skill
@@leviking3828
Lol uh no
Brawl MK would DESTROY Smash 4 Bayo
Goats omfg. Thank god its gone.
Y'all remember the Téa burn meta in Duel Links? Dear God, the "interactive" gameplay.
ugh
Technically not e-sports, but do you remember the 8 months of Firewall running rampant in yugioh
Props for the Evangelion x UNIQLO shirt Daniel, mine's on the way right now too!
It would be incredibly easy to make a list of this with just League of Legends metas.
Lethality/Assassin meta: Everyone can oneshot you
Tank meta: Nothing can kill tanks because their items were busted
Ardent meta: ADC/support 2v5 the game
juggernaut Meta: What's new
Banner of Command meta: Buff up a cannon minion and sit there.
Mage Bot Lane (adc's were no longer valid): ADC's no longer did damage, mages replaced them.
*Here's the big one you guys missed* : Funnel. BASICALLY: Mid laner plays a support, Jungle plays a carry and gets mid + jungle gold, then watch them scale and win at 30 minutes.
i miss the lethality era 😭 i loved spamming the shit out of miss fortune cuz i basically won the game after getting a duskblade and youmuus
Exactly. Let's not mention 4x BC Talon/Zed/Panth meta.
Mages bot were awsome and still are, a shame you can't pick them every game anymore!
Fun fact regarding the broodlord infestor meta in Starcraft 2 : It came back in 2019 and it was even worse than before. It lasted one year, and top Z players pretty much never lost a late game situation with this comp
I watched many Serra games during that time and super hurt since I am Terran olayers
I thought the mercy meta in overwatch wad pretty bad too. She was a must pick to win at one point. Idk if it deserves to be on the list tho
I think it should have been liked 10th
OWL teams tried running 3 tanks and 3 supports before GOATS came around. The only thing stopping it at that point (end of season 1) was Mercy... Then she got nerfed.
3 tank meta with Ana and Lucio was cancer lol.
Every meta from season 3 all the way to the goats ban was bad tbh (except the short time after Bio nade was nerfed)
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Me going to shoot my shot with my crush
13:09
Me remembering im not a 6 foot lightskin with curly hair
where can I find the clip at 13:36 ?
u literally could make a whole video like this only on rainbow six siege XD
yeah...Ubi is not very good at meta balance
You can say the same on every game on the list :/
Yes but you could say that for every game and it wouldnt be enjoyable to watch as not everyone plays r6 or any of the games on this list for that matter
They did already lol
OG blackbeard, 50 round Ela, OG Lion, and nowadays you could maybe argue utility dump meta
How come you guys always forget when Banner Of Command was built by literally every champ because it was so strong? imo it was hilarious but my god was it broken
And don't forget Zz'Rot Portal............
Duskblade meta.
League of black cleaver
@@kimjawheela who cares about duskblade, duskblade was useless if ur 0/4, but with banner of command, you could just win the game while being 0/20
Me sit top. Me buy BoC and ZZRot. Me 0/10/0. Me win game. "haha top bad xd :)"
You know a guns broken when valve fixes it in just a few days.
Daniel having a Pikachu cosmetic behind him after talking about broken things
I want to uninstall youtube
Come on, Swarm Host on HotS
What game again? PepeLaugh
that was worse than infestor broodlord imo
@@AlexB3333 Starcraft 2
@Joey Turkey Come on, no one wants to hear you talk shit about Starcraft 2.
Do another one with One Eyed Mask and Lord Of The Wolves from Destiny 2. One Eyed Mask was so broken that playing any other class aside from Titan wasn't worth it. Lord of the Wolves was broken for an entire season and it was even paired with One Eyed Mask
No body plays Destiny 2 talk about the black hammer in Destiny 1 and actual good game
What about the Recluse meta? Made me wanna off myself every time I played crucible.
The lazer weekend? Okay... Not as much time as the other actual metas... But still a horrible time in crucible ^^'
Somebody in here remember the fckfest D1 crucible was back in the days with the sniper shotgun meta? I still remember getting kills with my Felwinters that were straight up unfair
Age of Empires: Spanish Workers Rush
War for the Overworld: Behemoth Rush
Dungeon Keeper 2: Black Knight Rush
Warcraft 3: Keeper Fungle
CoD Mw 2019: M4 and MP5 (till this day)
RB6 Siege: BlackBeard Blitz, or Ela
SC II: Masa's Proxy against Scalett
I would add MP7 and GRAU on Modern Warfare, laser beams literally.
MW2s Akimbo 1887's : Pre-nerf
wait what. For AOE2, spanish worker rush isn't even that great, its barely ever played at top level. its a late game strategy and villagers don't even autoatk.
@@loganernest9499 Meh, call of duty is a twitch based shooter. Positioning matters more. Sure 1887s were better than every other shotgun in the game, but shot guns weren't all that good unless you were on console.
0:28 “the worst meta we ve ever seen”
Just the everyday life of a league player
Come here to Dota 2, we almost never got disastrous patch. Praise Icefrog the balance god!
Blushing Ralsei UwU 6.85 dota patch was the worst.
@@blushingralseiuwu2222 dotas even worse theyre so slow at balancing it takes months for them to patch something, atleast league has faster patches even if sometimes it becomes unbalanced
The Myriad LoL releases a patch every single week lol
@@ramxavier4627 purposed? So quality doesn't matter in LoL? Make sense... XD
I remember when assassins were the meta in League.
Couldn't walk two bloody steps without a gank coming from your own base, I swear.
@Hachiman Hikigaya Nah they are still pretty meta, specially in solo queue. From what I've seen tho Kha'zix seems to be pretty good in pro play
That's still how I feel playing ADC's.
if the R6 "yellow meta" is not here i'm out
edit: ok you called it the lion meta, ubi made an operator to try and counter it, warden
Warden doesn't counter the yellow meta. He countered the smoke/flash and plant meta (which was nerfed out of the game before he even released). The yellow meta was pretty much just lion being insanely broken or people running Lion, Finka and Blitz (hence the yellow name) and steamrolling defences
Bruh what part of wardens gadget counters lion
What? Warden counters smoke plants, the only OPs that can counter Lion scans are Vigil and Mute AFAIK
Warden came out way after Lion was nerfed and his ability has no interaction with Lion. Warden was introduced to counter the flash smoke meta with ying and glaz, usually with blitz as well as another set of smokes.
@@xanderwyatt8234 i always saw ying, monty, blitz, lion and who ever else they wanted to throw at us
Hearthstone - Patron Warrior
EVERYONE GET IN HERE!!!
Wild quest mage right now
I'd say Undertaker meta was more oppressive. You just would win the game on t1
There was a period where the whole ladder was secret Paladin
Demon Hunter early meta lmao
disagree. Hard to play
That broodlord infestor meta was the most broken thing in SC2. Protoss players even tried building Phoenix's which are air to air specialists but even they got locked down by the fungal growth. Like how is a flying unit gonna get rooted in place?!
Terran players got the worst: parasite from Infestor
The crowd reacting to the GOATS Comp really gives off a negative vibe to non overwatch players
I played during this shit, the reaction was correct
The game had to strangle its player base to stop a meta
I quit before they imimated 2/2/2 and holy shit I was just a plat rank almost diamond the rank is low asf and all u saw every game pahra merci or goats or even both (yes I was a console player)
If it makes you feel any better, number 1 shows the most infamous EVO Grand Finals in history. A competitive community that already struggles to be boradcasted and we get 1 minute of stalling at the biggest stage for that game, competitors being booed for choosing the most obviously broken character.
It's a good thing Ultimate came later that year because Sm4sh was dying fast after that display.
@@OsKarMike1306 I've heard of this allot from the smash community. Hbox and those 2 sure the game was unbalanced but the community crossed a line imagen we made fun of every team because they used lion smh
GTA V online's MK II Oppressor haha
It's so broken that almost everyone never installed the gta v again
It wasn't on the list because GTA V isn't competitive, but it's definitely hella broken, and R* loves to ignore it because money
15:30 dude I was there for this game, the crowd was PISSED man. And one of the staff had to like threaten both of them with disqualification just so they would play the game.
I like how he's telling him to move first like wtf I'd be pissed watching it
Wasn't it around this time that the community would just get up and leave at gf if it was a mirror? That was the most damning thing for Nintendo imo
How about Leroy Smith meta for Tekken 7. Even after being supposedly nerfed, he's still one of the most braindead characters in the game.
Hey hey. If you're gonna tell us to follow you on twitch, put a link in the description to your channel bros.
“You can one shot someone with a fucking pistol!!!”
*laughs in desert eagle*
Dead by daylight ruin meta if anyone even knows about that game
Not really because it’s a hex which can be found in the first 10 seconds of a game if they’re lucky but I agree it was aids now it’s almost useless unless killer is super mobile
The thing that saves DBD for me is that it's so RNG heavy that it's not meant to be taken seriously anyways (even ranks don't really matter in that game aside from playtime) so there's no balance integrity to break there. I agree that no perk should be a must pick 80%+ of the time as ruin was though.
just imagine if killer would have been playable without ruin if u're not spirit/nurse
Ruin pubstomped. Good players hit skill checks and/or found the totem quickly
The problem isn't the meta, it's the extremely toxic player base.
They forgot the IO-domi-aghs of OG. It ruined pubs for months even causing players to leave a match and accept the penalties for it when there's an IO on the game.
The thing is that meta isn’t easy to play you need pretty good coordinated team to make it work a good example when Team Secret tried to play the meta it didn’t work
bruh, og Lion plus blitz buff was fucking unbearable
some Dota 2 special mentions:
- illusion meta. imagine the enemy destroying your base without any consequences (illusions doesn't give gold yet when killed)
- Leshrac meta. with heavy aoe slow that can setup the aoe stun plus 2 other hi dps aoe skills, no wonder he was perma banned in pro matches
- Morph + ES one. imagine giving an already hi damage burst hero: 2 aoe stuns plus another burst ability.
I remember the Morph + ES meta well. Made me scared enough to build anything that was magic defense or health every game a morph was picked against me. Also remember the Tinker meta? Hour plus games were so common I'd block out at least an hour and a half for a game so I would have enough time if there was a Tinker (in that patch, there almost always was).