G-Helper & Armoury Crate = 👌 | Guide for ROG Ally

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  • @filt3rless
    @filt3rless  Рік тому +13

    If you're NEW to G-Helper then you'll probably want to click "Extra" and set the Ctrl Center and Back Paddles to "(--------)" and "ROG" to "Custom". This will stop the buttons from activating G-Helper so you can use the buttons to open Armoury Crate and Command Center.

    • @honestclickbait8243
      @honestclickbait8243 Рік тому +1

      please do a current 335 custom power profile.ty

    • @messiahmozgus
      @messiahmozgus Рік тому

      You can't set ROG to (-----). You have to assign it to something or do Custom with nothing entered I think . Only Ctrl Center and Back Paddles can be set to (-----)

    • @filt3rless
      @filt3rless  Рік тому +1

      @@messiahmozgus Whoops, you're right. I changed it to "Custom" which stops it from doing anything.

    • @Neo-9
      @Neo-9 Рік тому

      You said that if you create a custom mode you have to adjust it under 20watt due to fun curves and low temperatures. I think that if I click to turbo mode and I start to create a new custom mode, the fun curves are adjusted high as the turbo mode! So can I create 25 and 30 watt modes now?

    • @filt3rless
      @filt3rless  Рік тому +1

      @@Neo-9
      Edit: As Neo said below if you're in Turbo when you create the custom profile it'll use the "Turbo" fan settings so you can create one higher. I personally use "Turbo" as my 25W profile and the others as my lower watt profiles without using custom ones as I primarily use 12W / 17W / 25W.
      ---Original Reply---
      Hey, yes with Turbo mode you can use 30W no problem as the fan curve is higher. The "Custom" profile is using the "Balanced" fan profiles which is why you want to stay under 20W when using those. Turbo is fine to use the watt setting you like, and I recommend 25W as you don't get hardly any performance going from 25W to 30W.

  • @jpxmodz
    @jpxmodz Рік тому +35

    I'm not a fan of having two seperate programs doing the same job and conflicting with one another. I do like the fact that G helper does address a few issues that armory crate does not. I would rather Asus just update Armoury Crate to be more intuitive

    • @D17Gaming
      @D17Gaming Рік тому +1

      I here you, I installed G and handheld companion a couple of months ago and I messed up my inputs and ended up just factory resetting. I'm not good with this stuff 😅

    • @TheFunesk
      @TheFunesk Рік тому +1

      Please do a video with handheld companion

    • @Muhluri
      @Muhluri 9 місяців тому

      Same for me. I'd love the better way controls but not when I have to deal with separate apps

  • @diggleduggle532
    @diggleduggle532 Рік тому +7

    Your videos are great @filterless. You are my go to place for anything Ally related. Keep up the good work :)

  • @Silverarrow2
    @Silverarrow2 Рік тому +2

    Thanks for continually making content for my favourite device!

  • @egjream
    @egjream Рік тому

    You don't miss man, I didn't know about the power mode shortcut. that's so much more convenient than having to go all the way into AC settings to switch manual modes, now g helper is a must for me

  • @mindfreakCS
    @mindfreakCS Рік тому +1

    Amazing videos as usual filterless, thank you!
    If possible, I would love to see an advanced video on battery saving tips.

  • @nosferatu2690
    @nosferatu2690 Рік тому

    That macro is killer! Appreciate the content brother. Keep up the awesome work.

  • @MadaoAU
    @MadaoAU Рік тому

    this is amazing, finally i dont have to map every game and 17 watts sound really loud sometimes, would annoy my wife at night.
    Keep up the work mate

  • @ryanpersuadful
    @ryanpersuadful Рік тому

    Another well structured video, thanks for putting these out to help get the best out of the Ally 👍

  • @edvincentempron1346
    @edvincentempron1346 Рік тому +2

    if you select the turbo mode, then add custom profile, the fan curve on turbo mode will apply to custom profile. Same if you select first silent or balance mode then create custom profile. So you can go up to 30w in custom profile using turbo mode fan curve.

    • @Neo-9
      @Neo-9 Рік тому

      I mentioned above the same thingto @Filterless and he insist that is always balance mode the fun curves…maybe me or he didn’t understand well.

    • @edvincentempron1346
      @edvincentempron1346 Рік тому

      ​@@Neo-9maybe😢

  • @ThiagoGuedesC
    @ThiagoGuedesC Рік тому +2

    Why not run only GH then? I’m also not fan of having two apps for the same thing due to ram consumption and potential conflicts. Is it because with GH you can’t have keyboard shortcuts with the macro keys?

  • @mistermars9534
    @mistermars9534 11 місяців тому +1

    One problem i have with G Helper is that it seems like it's overwriting the deadzones. Which isn't a problem in Windows. But is with gaming. I want to be able to use the anti-deadzones for shooters but can't seem to be able to do so with G Helper.

  • @TheFunesk
    @TheFunesk Рік тому +1

    Please do a video with handheld companion

  • @KashFargo
    @KashFargo Рік тому

    I have the Xbox button set up for windows and desktop mode but it barely works have the time

  • @julianf40ify
    @julianf40ify Рік тому +3

    I’ve been using handheld companion for that autotdp and the recent update your able to set custom fan curves for select game profiles would love to see a video on it Filterless to get your thoughts too

    • @mindyournose
      @mindyournose 7 місяців тому

      I think since armory crate updates you can do something along those lines per game buddy don't quote me on it but I'm sure it's in armory crate when select a game I'm sure you can select your custom tdp/ fan profiles per game now hope that helps man I'm still learning it's my first windows device and I have learning difficulties so I hope it comes across well have a good one man 🏆👊

  • @jamesgraham2961
    @jamesgraham2961 Рік тому +1

    Ive managed to setup the shortcut to change performance modes and it works on the home screen and in some games but wont on some others. Any idea how to fix that?

  • @syachrul_
    @syachrul_ 9 днів тому

    How about fan curve 20watt?

  • @Ogrillion
    @Ogrillion Рік тому

    Thanks for the video! Do you still recommend the 5gig VRAM setting?

    • @filt3rless
      @filt3rless  Рік тому

      Yes I still use 5GB and it’s been working great :)

  • @tourneisol
    @tourneisol Рік тому

    Thank you for this guide to setting up G-Helper! I don't know if I set something up wrong, but when I use the Xbox Button configuration in Big Picture, I can't get it to open the side menu where you can exit the game or adjust controller settings. I tried with two separate games to see if it was just limited to the one title I was playing.

    • @filt3rless
      @filt3rless  Рік тому

      Hey, some games seem to block the functionality for some reason. Try using it in just big picture mode and see if it pops up. I wish it just worked, but I've had the same issue in a few games.

  • @Kali2Kimp
    @Kali2Kimp 3 місяці тому

    Hello,
    Thx for your video ! :)
    What is your overlay name ? I don't have time or battery in mine (rog ally) ^^'

  • @chigga25
    @chigga25 Рік тому

    Thx bro!!! Was wondering if g helper was still useful with all the updates AC has been getting

  • @adravil_sunderland
    @adravil_sunderland Рік тому

    Recently HC devs added support (if that can be called "added") for fan curves, so I had to drop HC and switch back to AC. But also downgrade bios to 317 where fan curves in AC were not so strict. Ally is quiet, but indeed, my experience tells me that Ally under Silent profile in GH is even quieter, so your idea is at least worth a try.
    But before me doing that -- may I know what bios were you using during this test? Latest, 335? Thanks!

    • @filt3rless
      @filt3rless  Рік тому +1

      Hey, I was on 334 for this test. The fans are almost silent if running balanced and higher watts with G-Helper.

  • @SevenPilot
    @SevenPilot 11 місяців тому

    Great video! I have one question though. Does the fan rpm affect battery that much? I don’t mind find noise in armoury crate but if I can save battery life I would.

    • @filt3rless
      @filt3rless  11 місяців тому +1

      It's not going to be by much at all and I wouldn't worry about it too much :)

    • @SevenPilot
      @SevenPilot 11 місяців тому

      @@filt3rless thank you! On top of that I also use a sd card and I think the lower temps will keep that from overheating (hopefully) :)

  • @leonart7875
    @leonart7875 6 місяців тому

    Hey bro , LSFG , AFMF, FSR 3.1, what you think is better to use?

  • @mgsan4702
    @mgsan4702 11 місяців тому

    If i disable ACse in ally
    Do ally still have comment centre and control setup?

  • @arseniy_viktorovich
    @arseniy_viktorovich Рік тому +3

    Bro there is an open source FSR 3 mod which enables frame gen for many games on Ally, I'm awaiting your review!

    • @filt3rless
      @filt3rless  Рік тому +1

      Hey, I don't think frame generation is going to work as well on iGPU's like we have have in the 7840U's / Z1 Extreme. The main issue is just not having enough overhead/raw power to utilize it properly. I could be wrong (and hope I am), but I don't think it's something that will be of much use for current gen handhelds.
      I think VRR without FG will almost always provide a better experience, especially with the latency that's added with FG.

    • @arseniy_viktorovich
      @arseniy_viktorovich Рік тому +1

      @@filt3rless It's been already tested on Ally and it works okay. No one promised crystal clear quality, you would get some artifacts in small details, but the motion is much smoother, getting from 40 to 60 fps is a game changer. Of course this won't fix the input lag, just the visual smoothness. But it's still a lot.

    • @arseniy_viktorovich
      @arseniy_viktorovich Рік тому +1

      @@filt3rlessAlso, Z1 Extreme has 8 Tflops, it's the level of PS5. It has enough performance. And frame interpolation is an old technology, my 12 year old TV is capable of doing that with it's own very primitive processor

  • @RGMo1z
    @RGMo1z Рік тому

    Originally followed this guide and was working, but not sure whats changed with g helper tried following again but no luck - the power profiles stay on balanced in windows power options regardless of what option is selected in G-Helper

    • @coders-arcade
      @coders-arcade 8 місяців тому

      g helper does not create power plans like Armoury create

  • @Jankylulu
    @Jankylulu Рік тому

    I think this my favorite video by far! This is exactly what I was looking for! Thanks a million man, ur just amazing and analyzing and teaching :)
    A few questions please :)
    1) armory crate is not installed for me. So when I install it now, I don’t need to worry about each game configuration, I just keep it on global performance mode and use G helper to change power modes yes?
    2) the shortcuts of g helper only work on game pad mode, and when I switch to desktop mode it’ll use my joystick as mouse but i can’t use the short cuts for power changing and xbox right?
    what I plan to do is have my Ally auto login once I switch it on and run steam big picture automatically. This is the closest I can get to steam OS experience, then I can use armory crate button to get the interface to just select game pad mode and voila I can use xbox button and power mode changing while only on steam big picture; am I thinking right 🤣?

    • @filt3rless
      @filt3rless  Рік тому +1

      Thanks man! Glad the video helped :)
      And for your questions:
      1. Yes, you can just install it and even completely ignore the game library side. Just open command center and make sure it's on Performance mode when plugged in and unplugged.
      2. Yeah, to get the joystick click to change power settings and the xbox button you'll want to be in Gamepad mode. Auto mode is actually trying to use custom game profile mappings and will completely ignore anything you've setup in "Control Mode" which is for Gamepad mode.
      And when you're in Desktop mode it's a completely different set of controls so no shortcuts you set for Control Mode will work. But it gives you a nice set of controls for navigating around on the desktop.
      And that plan should work well, and it is really close to Steam OS that way. As long as you leave it in Gamepad mode, it should just stay there and you'd be good to go while using big picture 👍

    • @Jankylulu
      @Jankylulu Рік тому

      @@filt3rless great! Thanks a million!
      Btw I suggest maybe make a video for your latest accessories maybe, such as the case you have etc ;)

  • @bluein2red423
    @bluein2red423 Рік тому

    Are you 100% sure the "apply custom fan curve" checkbox is for using Armory Crate's curves? My testing shows this is actually the box you need to tick to use GHelpers curves?

    • @WuFluChan
      @WuFluChan Рік тому +1

      If you leave it unchecked it will use stock fan curves which is a lot quitter than a manual fan curves because that stupid mandatory 75% at 69c thing with manual fan curves

    • @filt3rless
      @filt3rless  Рік тому

      Even if you drop the G-Helper curves down to the lowest possible setting, it’ll still ramp the fans up. It’s definitely using the AC manual mode fan curves and is way quieter when unchecked.

    • @bluein2red423
      @bluein2red423 Рік тому

      @@filt3rless There are limits yes if you try and set it very low, but more sensible values only take effect for me when I have the box ticked. Odd.

  • @iNfLune5
    @iNfLune5 Рік тому

    If you close the armory crate services through ghelper will that stop the power plan being initiated theough acse? I been using ghelper for a while and always close the acse services

    • @filt3rless
      @filt3rless  Рік тому +1

      Yeah, if you disable the services it'll stop it from running. This was mainly just to show how you can use it and still have command center and the Armoury Crate features including custom game profiles.
      The only issue you could run into is if you dock the system and use an external controller. Some games will pickup the embedded controller and not let you use the external controller. That's where having the command center to quickly Disable Embedded Controller would come in handy.

    • @iNfLune5
      @iNfLune5 Рік тому

      @@filt3rless even with acse services disabled through ghelper, you can still access command center via hotkey. That was why I asked. Well that and controller/auto/desktop for the sticks still works the same as if acse wasn't disabled

    • @filt3rless
      @filt3rless  Рік тому

      @@iNfLune5 If you click on Start and type "Services" and click on it. Which Asus services are still enabled? I usually go through and disable all of them if I'm just wanting to use G-Helper. The "Asus Optimization" service is responsible for the buttons opening AC and Command Center.

    • @iNfLune5
      @iNfLune5 Рік тому

      @@filt3rless only aura sync, update service and rogssloader? are still enabled. The buttons for cc and acse don't work but if you use the keyboard hotkeys it still does. Im not sure, I don't mind the controller still working along with ghelper still controlling tdp. I assumed it was working as intended but maybe ghelper doesn't fully shut down those services?
      Update just checked under task manager and Asus services are still running even though closed in services.msc

  • @jirikasal3302
    @jirikasal3302 Рік тому

    Looks good but i think many people need app like this for non gaming laptop where you dont have easy way how to control fan and tdp. Nice video. 🎉

  • @geekatari4391
    @geekatari4391 11 місяців тому

    In a Windows Laptop, can I just get rid off armory crate and use only G-helper?

    • @filt3rless
      @filt3rless  10 місяців тому +1

      I only use G-Helper on the Ally, my Asus G14 and Asus G15 laptops. I don't like Armoury Crate as it almost feels like bloatware with all the "extra" stuff. So yes you can 100% just use G-Helper :)

    • @geekatari4391
      @geekatari4391 10 місяців тому

      @filt3rless I've been using G-helper for a while and I like it. I think I could do better, but I don't know how to undervolt.
      I tried Armoury crate and myAsus for a week and it felt almost the same, but that was when plugged in. On battery, Armoury crate was using a lot more juice. I reverted to using G-helper again, great app.

  • @rogert250
    @rogert250 Рік тому

    Man you are awesome 👍

  • @gabrielreal3017
    @gabrielreal3017 Рік тому

    Thanks!

  • @xoredG
    @xoredG Рік тому

    I like the fan curve trick though I assume it’s the same as leaving HC on Performance and limiting TDP per game? Is there a way to have it switched to my 12W silent automatically (for Moonlight/Chiaki), if I stay on Performance (G-Helper Balanced) it’s on 17W, if you use AC’s Silent mode it’s not picking the 12W setting from GHelper

    • @filt3rless
      @filt3rless  Рік тому

      I haven't used HC much, but it sounds like it's doing the same thing. Essentially it's getting us the quieter fans no matter the watt level when using Silent / Balanced in G-Helper. Anything over 20W and I use Turbo in G-Helper for the more aggressive fan curve to keep temps down.
      You could create a custom profile in Armoury Crate called 12W. The last one to apply the power setting is the one that it'll use. So if you have G-Helper set to 17W / Balanced, as soon as you toggle an AC profile it overrides G-Helper. So even though it'll still show 17W in G-Helper, AC is the one it's using. Same goes if you're using any profile on Armoury Crate like Turbo. If you toggle a G-Helper profile it's now using G-Helper again regardless of what AC shows.
      It'll always use the last one toggled which is the main reason to have AC setup to use the same profile so it won't override G-Helper. What I'd recommend is setting up the shortcut like I showed in the video for quickly toggling profiles in G-Helper. Then you can just use G-Helper to quickly get to 12W. I'd imagine you can go even lower than 12W when running moonlight. Hope the info helps.

  • @Silverarrow2
    @Silverarrow2 Рік тому

    Do you alway leave the iGPU = dGPU on standard for all different power modes silent, Balance and Turbo?

    • @filt3rless
      @filt3rless  Рік тому

      Hey, you can select eco which I sometimes have it on. However since there isn’t a dGPU it doesn’t do anything. The program was originally built for laptops which is why those options are there.

  • @Kinggamerkdo
    @Kinggamerkdo Рік тому +1

    Hi filterless can u tell me why u are not personally upgrading to bios 335,btw awesome video ❤

    • @filt3rless
      @filt3rless  Рік тому

      Hey, the performance is identical from what I've seen. It looks like it's just another small bug fix :)

    • @Kinggamerkdo
      @Kinggamerkdo Рік тому

      @@filt3rless awesome 🤗🤩

  • @Hydemaintenanceman
    @Hydemaintenanceman 11 місяців тому

    Any chance I can get assistance on a run through of the basics and necessities of set up and troubleshooting? I'm not rich 😅, but I'm not willing to send my ROG Ally back and am willing to pay someone to troubleshoot it for me. I like it too much but at the same time it's become unusable 😢.

  • @khelrams9519
    @khelrams9519 9 місяців тому

    why my gpu mode has only eco :(

  • @TheZimberto
    @TheZimberto 11 місяців тому

    Isn't one aim of running cooler to not cook your SD card?

    • @filt3rless
      @filt3rless  11 місяців тому

      It looks like the VRM's, which control voltage and get pretty hot could have been the main cause. So over fan speed, lower power would be safer (even at lower fan speeds). This is a major issue with AC and Turbo mode as it goes up to 53 watts for 10 seconds, 43 watts for 2 minutes, causing things to really cook.
      So G-Helper let's you completely stop the boost and not hit 95c that happens in AC every time a game is launched. However, even with low power and max fans all the times I've heard of the SD Card reader failing still.

  • @edvincentempron1346
    @edvincentempron1346 Рік тому

    I observed that when I use G-helper, RIS will not work.

    • @filt3rless
      @filt3rless  Рік тому +1

      Hey, RIS should work without any issues even with G-Helper. I use it all the time.

    • @edvincentempron1346
      @edvincentempron1346 Рік тому

      ​@@filt3rless mine doesn't work even at 720p, coz i always use RIS for tipple A games.

    • @edvincentempron1346
      @edvincentempron1346 Рік тому +1

      ​@@filt3rless it works now, but need to turn on RIS first before running the game.

    • @filt3rless
      @filt3rless  Рік тому

      @@edvincentempron1346 Hey, glad it's working! Also as a small tip most options in the AMD control panel have to be enabled before starting a game for them to work. So if you wanted to try out RIS vs RSR or any other settings like Anti-Lag, V-Sync Always On, etc, you'd have to close out of the game each time, toggle the option, then open it back up. I personally like RIS the most and run it on all the time at 900p.

  • @Aziz_Boukhari
    @Aziz_Boukhari Рік тому

    I did something even better, M1 is associated to ctrl shift F5 and will set the previous profile and M2 associated to ctrl shift alt F5 will set the next profile so it is much easier to switch between profiles now

  • @messiahmozgus
    @messiahmozgus Рік тому

    Cant you just delete AC game profiles? The files are stored somewhere. I forget where. Shouldnt need a clean reinstall of AC...

    • @filt3rless
      @filt3rless  Рік тому +1

      I'm sure there is a way to go find the game files and delete them. However it's not something I tested. Depending on how AC is mapping to the game it could mess something up. I'm not saying it does, I just haven't tried it and an uninstall / re-install is a safe method that I know works.

    • @messiahmozgus
      @messiahmozgus Рік тому

      @@filt3rless I'm actually having issues with some games showing like 24w when I set it to 13w in ghelper. I did what you said and kept it on Performance in AC in every game profile.

    • @filt3rless
      @filt3rless  Рік тому

      @@messiahmozgus Just to make sure you have it set to performance as well in command center? And for G-Helper, both the sliders will need to be the same as well as make sure the "Apply power limits" box is checked below those sliders. Then toggle G-Helper profiles to make sure it take effect.

    • @messiahmozgus
      @messiahmozgus Рік тому

      @@filt3rless I sure did. I'm not new to AC or g helper. I guess I could do another clean install of AC.

  • @Hydemaintenanceman
    @Hydemaintenanceman 11 місяців тому

    I just want to go back to being able to access my command center and monitor my FPS and temperature while in game. I was able to do it just fine. I just recently bought my device not even 2 weeks ago and was able to do it even after updating just fine but open the device up today to find out that I can't do anything while playing a game. I'm willing to pay for someone to help me figure out what isn't functioning right or is, and preventing the screen overlay and button mapping. I should have to minimize my game to access command settings. Something major like this shouldn't take 6 months to resolve. Im just finding out that it's an issue that has persisted for 6 months and instead of fixing it as it is, thay have just added features 😂.

  • @Uthur
    @Uthur Рік тому

    Anything like this with a legion go

    • @filt3rless
      @filt3rless  Рік тому +1

      Hey, there isn't anything I'd be willing to recommend like G-Helper out there. Hopefully Lenovo updates it to have better TDP control. They have been pushing frequent updates so I'd assume it'll keep getting better and better.

  • @ezg8448
    @ezg8448 Рік тому

    I personally avoid "best power efficiency" windows mode. It forces the display to turned off in a few minutes, and after a few more minutes you get logged out of windows and put to sleep.
    Causes havoc if you have apps running in the backgroud and putting the Ally to sleep has it's own problems.
    Also, you can't override this behavior, or at least I haven't found anything. This includes registry editing as well.
    Just a heads up if this applies to you.

    • @desertbum8
      @desertbum8 Рік тому

      Put them all in high performance, and disable cpu boost. Then there won't be an issue. Filterless is adamant that leaving cpu boost enabled is the right thing to do but it is unneccsasry.

  • @ZHIGZAGON-
    @ZHIGZAGON- 2 місяці тому

    i'll keep G-Helper for now and Armoury Disable Because i can disable dedicated GPU with one click on my G14

  • @MrExodus0
    @MrExodus0 Рік тому

    best video :)

  • @andrewgezzi8918
    @andrewgezzi8918 Рік тому

    I’m so sick of this console had a ton of problems since I bought it (I bought this month) trash battery and all this on Windows. and yesterday my right stick stopped working. I don’t really know what to do anymore with this console

    • @desertbum8
      @desertbum8 Рік тому +1

      Sucks for you. Mine has worked great since launch.

  • @legart4507
    @legart4507 Рік тому +1

    The thing is overheating as is, why would you want to have the fans to be quieter?

  • @Ktatatam
    @Ktatatam Рік тому

    bring back the legion go. The problem with the dead zone has already been fixed. Without your videos there is nothing interesting about the legion on UA-cam.

    • @desertbum8
      @desertbum8 Рік тому +1

      That should tell you all you need to know about the Legion Go lol

  • @hakaiyou4532
    @hakaiyou4532 Рік тому

    Nice thing, but i rather stick with armory crate.

  • @BPR.
    @BPR. 7 місяців тому

    G helper virus