The Most Affordable AWD EV Is The New 2022 Volkswagen ID.4 AWD!

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  • If you're looking for an AWD EV that still has a federal tax credit and won't break the bank, VW has the answer for many of you with the new dual motor ID.4. If you get the full credit, VW's compact CUV will set you back around $18,000 less than a dual motor Model Y and a few grand less than Ford's Mach E. There's also 3 years of unlimited DC fast charging on the Electrify America network to sweeten the deal. Is the ID.4 perfect? No. But it is one of the best EVs in America right now, and it'll cost less than the "average" new car in America.
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  • @mikek2218
    @mikek2218 3 роки тому +67

    Yep... I think this is next EV for me. Nice package, not perfect, but it doesn't need to be. It's a great EV for the masses. Well done VW.

    • @laloajuria4678
      @laloajuria4678 3 роки тому +3

      Definitely a great 2nd car

    • @mikek2218
      @mikek2218 3 роки тому +8

      @@laloajuria4678 This will be my primary car and my 2014 Nissan Leaf will become my "second car".

    • @kevanmccaffrey8513
      @kevanmccaffrey8513 3 роки тому

      Looks like a bloated Renault Capture and thats awful .

    • @shanont
      @shanont 2 роки тому +2

      I went with this (Id4 gtx) so far really happy. I live in norway where charging network is really good, tho its cold here so range is ofteen effected. But I use it as family only car. Sure tesla Y is faster but id4 gtx 300 hp is no slouch , and I was looking for a 4x4 family EV with some towing capabilty and for this nothing beats it for the price. tesla y would add another 10k usd here. and I hope and belive id4 gtx will be cheaper and more relieable to run.

    • @guttagutta420
      @guttagutta420 2 роки тому

      @@shanont The HP and torque on this thing is terrible compared to a Tesla or Mach e...not to mention the top speed. This comes in at a paltry 111mph... pathetic.

  • @fjqtaxch9
    @fjqtaxch9 3 роки тому +38

    Alex was genuinely excited about this one. So am I.

  • @WilliamPozo
    @WilliamPozo 3 роки тому +54

    This car is an incredible value. Doesn't scratch my car loving soul ... but an excellent example of VW engineering and prowess. Good video Mr. Alex.

  • @smileymac8017
    @smileymac8017 3 роки тому +21

    Thank you Alex for reviewing vehicles. I think you are the best on UA-cam.

  • @deannbabs902
    @deannbabs902 3 роки тому +86

    I love the way you shut down the “it’s not as good as anTesla” crowd. Keep up the great AonA content.

    • @wt9653
      @wt9653 3 роки тому +3

      With a lot of lies🤣

    • @JonathanRootD
      @JonathanRootD 3 роки тому +1

      Yeah so no super charging and 70 miles less range at a slower charge rate and crap interior. So shut down.

    • @Frank71
      @Frank71 3 роки тому +4

      @@JonathanRootD
      The interior does not look any better then Tesla. I've test driven both. Tesla add 1,000 extra for any other color and 2,000 more for red. As he said....go and buy a model Y.....shut down.

    • @dwilliams4558
      @dwilliams4558 3 роки тому +8

      @@JonathanRootD Tesla owners are forever butt hurt that not everyone can afford or wants a Tesla. He stated facts it is cheaper to get this car versus a Tesla, and Tesla interior is pretty crappy, even Tesla owners say that along with terrible paint jobs.

    • @tren133
      @tren133 3 роки тому +5

      @@dwilliams4558 Did you watch the Doug DeMuro video on the new Model S Plaid? Brand new car and the paint is either flaking off or was never applied correctly, on a car that costs 130k. It's just appalling.

  • @elcharphe
    @elcharphe 3 роки тому +82

    I was glad to hear you say that you appreciated the sliding cover on the panoramic roof. Teslas have a lot going for them, but I've always felt they deserve more dings from reviewers for the glass roof without a cover.

    • @laloajuria4678
      @laloajuria4678 3 роки тому +1

      Yup, it's 1 thing we changed

    • @-Derp-
      @-Derp- 3 роки тому +4

      indeed Larry. you can forgive Tesla for a few quality issues and the like, but simple things like a cover should be a no brainer. if not a cover, surely smart glass would be a consideration. ive emailed Tesla about it, so far i got crickets.
      en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Smart_glass#Electrically_switchable_smart_glass

    • @TheAdventureAuto
      @TheAdventureAuto 3 роки тому +2

      I think a cover is a nice option, but Tesla glass has full UV reflective properties. The VW is just a clear pane of glass. So on a day when the sun is directly above you, the Tesla allows you to leave it open and you don't feel the heat of the sun, while still being able to feel the complete openness and enjoy the glass roof. The VW you would always have it shut if the sun was out. And if you really need a cover, there's a cheap sunshade you can easily snap in on a Tesla. The perfect option would be if VW used Tesla's glass with their setup. At that point tho, you would never need the shade.

    • @paulholterhaus7084
      @paulholterhaus7084 3 роки тому +1

      I have NEVER opened the cover on My Two Subaru's............Paul

    • @tonys9413
      @tonys9413 3 роки тому +1

      @@TheAdventureAuto Not if you live in Florida, Arizona, or anywhere in the boiling hot deep South states, no matter what kind of glass used. I have two glass roof cars and they’re covered most of the time (especially in the summer).

  • @MrSvetlin09
    @MrSvetlin09 3 роки тому +19

    This is by far the best channel for EV and ICE automotive reviews. I realy like your stile of impartial and proffesional analysis. You are a bright light in the otherwise dark and fake youtube world of "Munroism" ...

    • @directorjustin
      @directorjustin 3 роки тому +1

      "Munroism" as in Sandy Munro?

    • @MrSvetlin09
      @MrSvetlin09 3 роки тому

      @@directorjustin Naaa...Don't think so, Munro' s channel is reviewing refrigerators nowadays...

    • @markfitzpatrick6692
      @markfitzpatrick6692 3 роки тому

      @@directorjustin yes i think that is who he is taking about. Sandy turned me off too. I think Corey his president does a better job . Without the bashing of other evs .

  • @stuntmonkey00
    @stuntmonkey00 3 роки тому +14

    This, but with the ergonomics and design language from the Mk7 Golf era. It would slay everything by just being a really good car instead of a futuristic design statement.

  • @stephenhendricks103
    @stephenhendricks103 3 роки тому +39

    Great initial review, Alex. I've been looking forward to the introduction of the ID4 AWD. Living in the Puget Sound region our winters are typically wet rather than frozen but the nearby Cascades are a temptation for ski trips and AWD is highly recommended for trips on the "eastside" of the mountains where winter snow is more prevalent. At least on paper a RWD biased AWD configuration is ideal.
    It's clear that VW has decided the ID4's target market consists of consumers who might otherwise find a conventional compact crossover an appealing choice rather than those looking for the scalding performance of a muscle car or even an exotic. Smart choice, I think. Especially with an MSRP with a tax incentive that makes the ID4 rival the price of a CR-V or RAV4. Like everyone else I'd like to see a bit longer range at least until public fast charging stations are more widespread. But I'm fortunate to live in a suburban home where a home charging system is an easy addition and well over 95% of my miles are spent on local streets or nearby destinations. I'm already seeing a few "First Edition" ID4s on the streets around here and I expect the AWD version will explode in popularity as long as the Federal tax credit is in place.

    • @tlstanbro3193
      @tlstanbro3193 2 роки тому

      Did you buy one if so how is it working out for you

  • @V10PDTDI
    @V10PDTDI 3 роки тому +6

    Like I said before Alex is the best car reviewer on the planet because he is unbiased and puts other cars in perspective so you know what competes with what.

  • @douglashamm4668
    @douglashamm4668 3 роки тому +21

    As usual, great, informative review. Based on reviews and my test drive if a RWD id.4, I reserved an AWD ProS. When I spoke with my local dealer, they said that cars ordered will probably be delivered next May.

  • @thegreeneyej
    @thegreeneyej 3 роки тому +10

    Thanks Alex, We need more options like the AWD ID4. Affordable!

  • @priddle3392
    @priddle3392 3 роки тому +62

    Alex, your reviews, and your insight into how the vehicles apply to 'real world' never fail to deliver. Great job as always. I am in the process of researching my next vehicle and to be honest, had never given this vehicle any consideration but based you your feedback i will have to include it. Now if Hyundai and Kia would just increase the availability of their EV's I would consider them as well.

    • @grantadamson3478
      @grantadamson3478 3 роки тому

      Agreed. I would however, wait for Kia or Hyundai to produce a vehicle in the model range I'm looking for. I'm not going to buy a Tesla and I'm not convinced that the VW group offer good enough reliability or after sales service but there styling is usually very good.

    • @mikejaynekennedy4790
      @mikejaynekennedy4790 3 роки тому +1

      @@grantadamson3478 If I were going to buy a VW electric, I would wait for the release of the ID Buzz. Maybe it is the hippie in me, but this vehicle would be a blast to own.

    • @grantadamson3478
      @grantadamson3478 3 роки тому +1

      @@mikejaynekennedy4790 Yeah that looks very cool. There is a little hippie in me too I think. Electric surfboard on top. Too much?

    • @mikejaynekennedy4790
      @mikejaynekennedy4790 3 роки тому +2

      @@grantadamson3478 It's never too much. If you can think it, you can do it, man.

    • @paulholterhaus7084
      @paulholterhaus7084 3 роки тому

      I will not buy an obsolete 2WD anything..........Paul.........AWD is free on all Subaru's.........Paul

  • @mowcowbell
    @mowcowbell 2 роки тому +3

    Current price of Model Y long range AWD = $59K. Current price of VW ID.4 AWD Pro S = $49K - $7.5K Federal Tax Credit = $41.5K. $17.5K cheaper to get the ID.4. The ID.4 comes with 3 years of free charging, a trailer hitch, and a retractable cover over the glass roof. Looks like the ID.4 is a winner!

  • @juliekortus5577
    @juliekortus5577 2 роки тому +2

    Alex - you are the best car reviewer out there! Thank you for your fast-talking, thorough, no-fluff evaluations!

  • @InvestBetter.
    @InvestBetter. 3 роки тому +19

    Not having to pay for charging and getting that tax credit, AND getting that cover for the roof make this a very strong value. Plus great ground clearance, if you need that.

    • @phlydude
      @phlydude 3 роки тому +1

      Not paying for charging is only convenient if there are chargers near where you travel - for me, they are significantly out of the way. You'd think the 3rd most populated state with a large tourism market would have more EA chargers available than it does. They aren't really near the interstates either in the most touristy parts of the state.

    • @kennytinker24
      @kennytinker24 2 роки тому +1

      @@phlydude Most Walmarts will be getting them, and they are everywhere, least around here is the case.

  • @kennybunker2081
    @kennybunker2081 3 роки тому +8

    Much better VW EV which got my interest. Very good coverage Alex 👍🏻

  • @wanttoplae
    @wanttoplae 3 роки тому +10

    And better fit and finish for nearly 20k less! Either way, more choice is better for us consumers.

  • @ericschmidt1987
    @ericschmidt1987 2 роки тому +1

    I’ve seen the id4 and I love it. In a model 3 owner for 3 years almost.

  • @Akhenatonio
    @Akhenatonio 2 роки тому

    This was the first video I've watched from you and was immediately impressed by your candor, down home quality and technical knowledge. Well done.

  • @previnmarquez3753
    @previnmarquez3753 2 роки тому

    I ordered one of these (AWD version) in May. largely based on some of the reviews but your review and that of Redline convinced me. I then drove the 2WD model and was sold over again. My AWD ID.4 won't arrive until late January early February looking forward to ownership. Thank you for a review I can use. This vehicle should serve us well here in the Southern Colorado and Northern New Mexico foothills and mountains

  • @directordave1
    @directordave1 3 роки тому +4

    Another great review by Alex. My go to place when looking at cars.

  • @sab0nes
    @sab0nes 3 роки тому +1

    I drove one last week I really like it. It's a quality vehicle and drives great.

  • @jasonbarker9943
    @jasonbarker9943 2 роки тому +1

    Good review as I am considering the ID4

  • @Chuckie3D
    @Chuckie3D 3 роки тому

    I've watched several of your reviews now, Alex, and this car would not normally be my choice. But that you are so incredibly comprehensive, I watched it all the way. Again. :-) You simply outpace all the reviewers I've bounced between on UA-cam. I have more to watch, as I think EV will be more me than hybrid (future-proofing). But you are the guy I'm coming to first. Thank you so much.

  • @directorjustin
    @directorjustin 3 роки тому +17

    I can always count on Alex to be the voice of reason. A certain UA-cam channel that centers around EVs and Tesla news (won't say who) absolutely slammed the ID.4 for not being as good as a Tesla. As Alex might say, "No shit, Sherlock!"

    • @nothere572
      @nothere572 3 роки тому +3

      Was it Now You Know? They had a horrible Model Y vs ID.4 comparison

  • @USUG0
    @USUG0 3 роки тому +20

    the actual elephants in the room might be the ioniq5 and EV6. With their interior space and charging speed are possibly better options

    • @sprockkets
      @sprockkets 3 роки тому

      I like them both too, but I'm not aware of them starting to make them here in the US. I think SK has some batteries to sell them though soon, but Ford and VW get them first IIRC.

    • @brittgayle467
      @brittgayle467 3 роки тому +2

      Aren’t they more expensive, closer to Tesla range?

    • @USUG0
      @USUG0 3 роки тому +1

      @@brittgayle467 they should be somewhere in between. However, they offer tesla like specs.

    • @tonys9413
      @tonys9413 3 роки тому +2

      @@sprockkets Good luck getting Hyundai dealers supporting these electric cars.

    • @mowcowbell
      @mowcowbell 3 роки тому +2

      @@tonys9413 Especially Hyundai dealers outside of California. Good luck finding one in the Midwest.

  • @Rhynri
    @Rhynri 3 роки тому +5

    While I can appreciate goal behind the leaning in the power, it should always be something you can override with a Sport mode. It’s so easy to allow you to choose how much off-pedal/one-foot driving you want and how much snort you want off the line. Yet pretty much no one allows that configurability. Chevy did something similar with the Spark EV and it’s pretty much my only gripe with the car.

    • @amigajoe
      @amigajoe 2 роки тому +1

      I completely agree. After driving a model three for three years I sold it last month, and believe it or not I’m actually looking forward to the idea of a car with less instant acceleration, as I found it inconveniently difficult to provide a super smooth ride for my wife who sometimes got just a bit motion sick on a long winding road that we have to take several times a week.
      But to your point, make it a user configurable setting. I think the biggest thing I’ll miss about my Tesla as compared to whatever EV I get next will be the software updates. Meaning, who knows if VW will add this configurable setting in the future or not.

  • @chrisb508
    @chrisb508 3 роки тому +10

    Glad to hear that VW seems to be serious about producing EVs.

    • @rhett7716
      @rhett7716 3 роки тому +1

      why shouldnt they be? but toyota draggin the chain !😏

  • @andykphoto
    @andykphoto 3 роки тому +8

    I just brought my ID4 Pro S AWD home today. So far it’s estimating ~300 miles of range, but I didn’t take the highway today 🤷‍♂️😸

    • @justinfischer4282
      @justinfischer4282 3 роки тому +1

      I have one on order. There's a lot of confusion about the actual ground clearance (and I actually need it for where I live). I know I'm an internet stranger, but if you measure and share the actual ground clearance with me, I'll send positive energy your way :D

    • @Demobot1
      @Demobot1 3 роки тому +1

      I envy you. I have to wait till next year to just order an ID.4.

    • @andykphoto
      @andykphoto 3 роки тому

      @@justinfischer4282 I’ll give it a go after dinner 😸

    • @andykphoto
      @andykphoto 3 роки тому

      @@Demobot1 you can’t currently build and reserve? I mean, I did put my initial deposit down in November of 2020 so… I’ve had a bit of a wait too, but they should at least be able to reserve/build one now… I think.

    • @Demobot1
      @Demobot1 3 роки тому

      @@andykphoto No. The curse of being Canadian.

  • @nonej8304
    @nonej8304 3 роки тому +4

    Another great review. Can't wait to see them in CA. Time for EV round up: AWD MachE, AWD ID4, AWD polestar, AWD EV6, AWD Ionic 5, Tesla MY, AWD Audi Q4.🤞 Did I miss anything? It's time Alex. Don't forget turning radius, acoustic glass? front defroster and latest vehicle FW (break hold, etc) great job!

    • @jcubs11
      @jcubs11 2 роки тому

      @Just think You must not live here... I've never lost power because of those.

  • @joeb4294
    @joeb4294 3 роки тому +5

    I really wish they would bring the ID.3 to the US - I'm still holding out hope that they will bring over a performance version, maybe a rebadged Cupra el-Born.

  • @alextube1101
    @alextube1101 3 роки тому +17

    Alex should replace John Davis on motorweek when he chooses to retire

  • @basementstudio7574
    @basementstudio7574 3 роки тому +2

    Finally, somebody said it. "Just because it has a plug does not make it a Tesla Model Y competitor". Getting a little tire of some/most of the other reviewers comparing EV to a Tesla.

    • @laloajuria4678
      @laloajuria4678 3 роки тому

      Well what is the gold std otherwise? The Bolt?

    • @markmiller3279
      @markmiller3279 3 роки тому

      I agree, though in this case I think there _will_ be cross-shopping with the Model Y. People who need the longer range, or like quick acceleration won't, but the two are similar enough in size and features that many will find either one acceptable. I know I would.

  • @paulholterhaus7084
    @paulholterhaus7084 3 роки тому +1

    More reviewers need to review this as a Utility Vehicle....Same as You would review a Forester.......Too many are trying to treat this thing as a sports car............Paul

  • @chuckwalla2967
    @chuckwalla2967 3 роки тому +1

    The gauge screen that moves with the steering column is an excellent idea, unlike Tesla who chopped off the top half of the steering wheel to deal with the blocked view issue.

  • @bombcat91
    @bombcat91 3 роки тому

    That shot of the Hercules turning at 4:41 made the video even better! Beautiful shot.

  • @Badgerpat83
    @Badgerpat83 3 роки тому

    I have ordered this exact car...can't wait for it to come. Love the light gray interior. The ID.4 will be the second EV for my household. With all the complaints about the price of gas...these cars are becoming more attractive every day. The fact that they are fun to drive is a fantastic bonus!

    • @openmind6969
      @openmind6969 2 роки тому

      We ordered the red one after we already have a first edition in white. Will have two id4 in family. The black or white interiors always bothered me on Tesla option.

  • @pepecorniel462
    @pepecorniel462 2 роки тому +1

    Model Y starts at $63,990 without the gimmick of the gas savings in the small print. Add 2000 for the red paint, 1000 for the hitch and you are looking at a total of $67,000 before any destination charges.
    Full decked out ID4 your looking at $51,000. 67 - 51 = $16,000 now add the $7,500 in tax credits if you qualify and you are looking at $23,500 in savings.

  • @EDWINRC72
    @EDWINRC72 3 роки тому +4

    At least VW know how to builds vehicles. If you see the gaps in any tesla you will see that they have asymmetric gaps.

  • @frumpd63
    @frumpd63 3 роки тому +25

    It's too bad that VW chose to give the ID4 such infuriatingly poor HVAC and infotainment controls to try to seem futuristic. Otherwise a nice product.

    • @laloajuria4678
      @laloajuria4678 3 роки тому +6

      At least they updated UI responsiveness. But yes, poor first showing.

    • @jonpetter8921
      @jonpetter8921 3 роки тому +1

      The IDs infotainment are decent and well designed. Was slow at the beginning but are ok after the updates and likely to be even improved....

    • @jeffm.2119
      @jeffm.2119 3 роки тому +1

      Death to buttons!!

    • @openmind6969
      @openmind6969 2 роки тому +2

      We live in 100 degrees ca summer and the AC was just fine. And Apple CarPlay works. Don’t need more than that for infotainment. Did you speak from own experience? Or someone’s comment/review?

  • @cardsfan2013
    @cardsfan2013 3 роки тому +2

    Just moved to California and gas prices are killing me. I have a 2019 CRV that I love, but looking to upgrade to a hybrid, PHEV, or straight up EV. Looking at the RAV4 prime, 2022 Hyundai Tucson (hybrid or PHEV) and now this. Thanks!

  • @b1uezea1ot
    @b1uezea1ot 3 роки тому +3

    Great car with great price reviewed by great reviewer.

  • @Wised1000
    @Wised1000 3 роки тому +1

    I wholeheartedly agree this is a very important "market vehicle". Still predominantly a city/close suburb car but a definite move forward. Very attractive performance/ range/ utility/ price package. Good job VW!

  • @jcaz1313able
    @jcaz1313able 2 роки тому

    Good review, I'll be getting my ID4 this coming weekend.

  • @hang4963
    @hang4963 3 роки тому +2

    👍👍👍 that was the true honest advice to purchase new EV for everyone 😝 thanks Alex 💋

  • @petermccabe9529
    @petermccabe9529 3 роки тому

    We're looking in this range and this is a very useful video. Lots on info and context. Good job. Thanks.

  • @raz95man
    @raz95man Рік тому +1

    Love this review as I am looking at this car and Mach E; it is the pricing that concerns me the most .

  • @asavage3654
    @asavage3654 3 роки тому +5

    Thanks for talking about the value up front! It is amazing what a great value this car is and some reviewers gloss over that.
    I'm very curious about the ground clearance in this car. You mentioned 8.8 inches and another reviewer said 6.7 inches. In the videos it sure doesn't look like 8.8 inches. What's going on with this stat?

    • @michaels3003
      @michaels3003 3 роки тому

      I asked Google to find the **official** ground clearance for this model. It is not mentioned at all on the VW (U.S.) web site. I've found official VW press-release web site with a 6.3 inch ground clearance for the RWD model.

    • @kevinkesler6856
      @kevinkesler6856 2 роки тому

      Yeah Forbes stated that it is 6.7in. 8.8 would be more than the Rav4 prime (8.3in) which really doesn't look to be the case.

  • @alancui3470
    @alancui3470 2 роки тому

    I ordered ID.4 awd pro last evening. I like ID.4 ground clearance and usable trunk space, and similar drive dynamics as gas small SUV.

  • @97JoMiller
    @97JoMiller 3 роки тому +2

    the power ceiling cover is great, I'm at a loss as to why the Model Y and the MME don't have it.

  • @Aschoolbusandsimulatorfan2219
    @Aschoolbusandsimulatorfan2219 Рік тому +1

    My very first electric car! Nice video Alex.

  • @stanpowers600
    @stanpowers600 Рік тому +1

    Eagerly awaiting your review of the Chatanooga 2023 refresh! ID.4 (Pro S AWD) just may be my Goldilocks EV....

  • @slyguyaction
    @slyguyaction 3 роки тому +1

    Great video and demo of the AWD. We have a Kings Red RWD Pro S w/Gradient ordered with arrival from Germany estimated first couple weeks of January. We're really excited.

  • @maskedman58
    @maskedman58 3 роки тому +13

    I ended up buying an Atlas Cross Sport a few months back because VW had not produced the AWD id. 4 yet. Even though I love the space, handling and looks of the car, I may have to consider trading it in. The 2.0 even with awd is just too slow!

    • @tallalmoshrif6643
      @tallalmoshrif6643 3 роки тому

      we used to have the Tiguan with a 2liter engine, I can't imagine on the Crossport.
      We switch to the Atlas 3.6 VR6 Rline.

    • @maskedman58
      @maskedman58 3 роки тому +1

      @@tallalmoshrif6643 the 2.0 in the Atlas is tuned up a lot more than the one in the Tiguan. About 36 more HP and I think about 40 more ft lbs of torque. But it's no race car.

  • @MK-tk8tb
    @MK-tk8tb 3 роки тому +20

    This seems to be a real competitor to normal vehicles such as a Subaru Outback. Similar form factor and after incentives similar price.

    • @pilot1226
      @pilot1226 3 роки тому +1

      I have an OBXT but am waiting patiently for an EV that is a true replacement. I’d like to have 8-9 inches of ground clearance and AWD even if it meant I couldn’t go 400 miles of range without charging. I’d settle for 250.

    • @CrazyWeeMonkey
      @CrazyWeeMonkey 3 роки тому +1

      @@pilot1226
      It's very different and much larger, but the Rivian R1T and R1S probably are the most offroad-capable EVs right now, have 14.5" ground clearance, and 300-400miles of range.
      There's also the teased Subaru Soltera (EV) which will likely fit your needs perfectly, but it's specs are unknown at this time and it won't go on sale for another year.

    • @basementstudio7574
      @basementstudio7574 3 роки тому +1

      This is no more or less and "off-roader" than a CX5, CRV or 4Runner

    • @James-il3tq
      @James-il3tq 3 роки тому +2

      @@basementstudio7574 I think you meant Rav4. 4runner 10x better offroading then any of these including ID4.

    • @markmiller3279
      @markmiller3279 3 роки тому

      @@pilot1226 Sounds like you've been waiting for this. 8+ inches of ground clearance and 250 mile range with AWD. I'm sure others will match that soon.

  • @SueC56
    @SueC56 2 роки тому

    I agree with you and Mike K. This car just makes sense.

  • @MumstheThird
    @MumstheThird 3 роки тому +13

    I'm split between getting this and Ioniq 5. I hope Hyundai makes it's pricing completive with the ID.4. I like the styling and much faster charging on the Ioniq 5, but I like the ground clearance on the ID.4.

    • @tonys9413
      @tonys9413 3 роки тому +6

      One more factor to consider is the local dealer’s commitment to EVs. See how receptive your dealers to servicing your car; in my area the Hyundai dealer is not on the EV frontline. Even though EVs require much less maintenance, every small electrical glitch will require some attention from your dealer if you can’t deal with it yourself.

    • @KeeperOfTheSevenKeys.
      @KeeperOfTheSevenKeys. 3 роки тому +6

      Ioniq and EV6 pricing looks to be a little more than the Mach e looking at Korean market and first edition prices. ID.4 is without a doubt the most affordable mainstream EV you'll be able to get without dropping to limited city bound subcompact car.

    • @eto2352
      @eto2352 3 роки тому +3

      Ioniq5 has 800V system (only the Porsche Taycan is similar) and V2L, where you can power your home or accessories with the car, as well as a lot more features.
      VW is a mediocre effort from a company that invested billions into EVs. At the base price, the ID4 is a good EV. Anything more than that, it doesn't make sense compared to the limited competition.
      In a couple years, it will be obsolete.

    • @KeeperOfTheSevenKeys.
      @KeeperOfTheSevenKeys. 3 роки тому +6

      @@eto2352 the Kia EV6 also has it but it's not like the charging curve on the ID.4 is bad, neither are really more feature rich though they are more premium. Ioniq isn't nearly as s practical as EV6 or ID.4 tough. Also lol you can it mediocre but reality is its a much more meaningful effort since it's a lot more affordable. You're paying luxury price for Ioniq/EV6 so compare it to Audi not ID.4. EV6 is a good car don't get me wrong but that's a very disingenuous argument you are making.

    • @eto2352
      @eto2352 3 роки тому +2

      @@KeeperOfTheSevenKeys. Kia/Hyundai are not luxury EV cars. The Ioniq5 and ID4 both come in around $45k USD.
      The ID4 ergonomics and human interface is a mess.
      The Hyundai/Kia 400+800W system is far superior as is the ability to V2L gives far more flexibility to owners. The entire safety suite offered, as well as superior ergonomics. They are at the forefront of EV technology.
      VW is simply not a good value. It may be affordable to those that want a VW and it's not a bad EV but it's not in any way outstanding and many ways, inferior to even VW's other ICE vehicles.

  • @dearbulls
    @dearbulls 3 роки тому +10

    These interior room measurements are a bit hard to believe based on my own test drive experience with them.
    Yes, model Y does have a bit more knee room than id4, but definitely not 3.5" of a difference. Furthermore, I didn't feel that the rear seat head room of model Y is 1 inch more. It is limited by that huge cross bar behind 2nd row. I'm 6'2, I can sit in the back of model y if the seatback is straight up, and with that glass roof, my hair would brush the glass roof but my head is not hitting. If I reclined the rear seat to similar angle of id4, the back of my head just bumped into that huge cross bar. Although id4's rear seat back cannot adjust, it's designed to a pretty comfortable angle, and the seat angle and seat bottom length are both better provide better thigh support. So, I think we cannot only look at the manufacturer numbers, God knows how they've been measured, but definitely not with the same standard.

    • @jcubs11
      @jcubs11 2 роки тому

      I agree, sitting in the back of the ID4 it didn't feel as small as the numbers suggest.

  • @laloajuria4678
    @laloajuria4678 3 роки тому +2

    Sorry you had to go to TN. EV competition needs to get going!

    • @jackfishcampbell6745
      @jackfishcampbell6745 3 роки тому

      Tennessee is a beautiful if covidy state .

    • @rhett7716
      @rhett7716 3 роки тому

      id wait another year or 2 for some real inovations in EVs to start happening, whats the hurry?

  • @7spower998
    @7spower998 3 роки тому

    11:36 Alex isn't a quibble but a brilliant idea of reducing two fewer buttons. The rear window switch has the same concept as the switch for the outside rearview mirrors. There's only a toggle switch to control L, R, Fold, & Heated outside rearview mirrors. So, in the same concept, there's one switch to control F & R windows. It's KISS - Simplicity not, complexity applied to the full extend!

    • @rizzlerazzleuno4733
      @rizzlerazzleuno4733 3 роки тому

      Also, the use of the front windows is probably 80% of the time the switches are used, so maybe 20% or less will it be a big deal to lower the rear windows from the driver's seat.

  • @davidgiles9751
    @davidgiles9751 3 роки тому +3

    I put a deposit on an AWD Pro S model just yesterday. Unfortunately, the predicted timeframe for delivery is May 2022. I'm thinking that will slide a bit closer in, but either way I'm anticipating a wait.

    • @bobwalters7414
      @bobwalters7414 2 роки тому

      It’s the end of May 2022, did you get yours? I just put a deposit down to order one just a few days ago and they are saying December 2022 or January 2023. Thanks

  • @Tinrs80
    @Tinrs80 3 роки тому +1

    Only had my F 150 a few months. but ive been thinking about getting one of these as my First Electric vehicle first of next year so i can see what its like to own one. Prolly Get this and a Maverick to use for Work Locally...Will see...thanx for the Review Alex.

    • @laloajuria4678
      @laloajuria4678 3 роки тому

      They are different, but overall great. Enjoy whatever you get.

  • @UncleBensChannel
    @UncleBensChannel 3 роки тому

    I test drove the 1 motor model and it was really nice, very tight and quiet on the highway.

  • @thomasklein4265
    @thomasklein4265 2 роки тому

    It looks like you could fit a Tesla to CCS adapter under that hood in the front , no problem, and possibly a compact EVSE like a TurboCord as well.

  • @ag135i
    @ag135i 2 роки тому

    Thanks for the informative video I am planning to buy it when it's launched in India.

  • @Boringdaddi
    @Boringdaddi 3 роки тому

    Excellent review. This car is a step in the right direction for our next and first ev purchase. If the next gen evs exceed 500 - 600 kms range, keep price under 40k and pressure others like Kia or big 3, then things are looking good. In part due to alex’s review, my wife bought 2017 kia sorrento v6, awd. Excellent car. We’d like to remain brand loyal if kia can meet or exceed my earlier requirements, but we’ll buy from whomever provides the best quality, price and range are. Thx

  • @pasad335
    @pasad335 3 роки тому +7

    It's important for me to know if the large center screen in vehicles like this can be turned off completely. When driving at night it is so much more comfortable on the eyes not to have a big light source in the cabin.

    • @danielspencer1923
      @danielspencer1923 3 роки тому +2

      Yeah, you can turn it off. There's an off bottom. You can also dim it

  • @jackfishcampbell6745
    @jackfishcampbell6745 3 роки тому +4

    I can't see dealing with dealing with that interface to do things like adjust the climate . But then again There's no way I'd deal with the Teslas controls . I like the way it looks inside and out and its size . I drive a 19 Kia Niro Hev Touring and love that car . If I lived in a place with better charging infrastructure a car like this would be more feasible. Keep up the great work Alex you make great videos .

    • @jrwaters943
      @jrwaters943 3 роки тому +1

      I personally don't really deviate from the temperature I set, but a few select times of year. Usually I set it and forget it.

    • @laloajuria4678
      @laloajuria4678 3 роки тому

      The Tesla controls are fine. And better than here....so don't understand your viewpoint. I've touched both....

    • @jrwaters943
      @jrwaters943 3 роки тому +1

      @@laloajuria4678 respectfully disagree. Tesla gets too much of a free pass. Adjusting the steering wheel, wipers, etc all takes more effort than it should because they are buried in sub-menus. If the screen goes out you are very limited on what you can and cannot do with the car. The lack of AA/CarPlay is also quite shocking given their tech savvy clientele.

    • @jackfishcampbell6745
      @jackfishcampbell6745 3 роки тому +1

      @@laloajuria4678 I guess the point is that I mostly use my phone to stream music when I'm driving. I seldom use my desk top at home nowadays. I'm on my tablet quite a bit . BUT I don't want to screw around with computer stuff while
      I'm driving . I like to keep my hands on the wheel and my eyes on the road . How is it OK to have overly complex controls while driving , but touching your phone or other handheld electronic device is strictly verboten ? I might add that I've been driving for 49 years and generally love the cars nowadays more than ever . But to me distracted driving is still distracted driving whatever the cause is .

  • @SmallGroups2go
    @SmallGroups2go 3 роки тому

    Thanks for your review. I had a Jetta and a turbo Passat. This looks like my next car.

  • @jamesinsteamboat
    @jamesinsteamboat 3 роки тому

    Glad to see more options filling the gap between crappy/cheap FWD bolt/leaf/kona and AWD Tesla/MachE, both currently taking 3-6 months to deliver, which is the only reason I didn't go electric earlier this month

  • @energiewender143
    @energiewender143 2 роки тому

    Perfectly executed review. Thank you!

  • @jansenwilder1335
    @jansenwilder1335 3 роки тому +1

    This model is attractive together with its sister Skoda Enyaq.. take your pick on which design you prefer.

  • @jlwagon
    @jlwagon 3 роки тому

    Great review! This is an option i would consider. My anxiety shot up after seeing you behind the logging truck.

  • @ikwikwi
    @ikwikwi 2 роки тому

    Reminds me of my Peugeot 3008. Might get this if range is great.

  • @Quickicecarreviews123
    @Quickicecarreviews123 3 роки тому +1

    Hmm seeing addresses in southeast TN maybe I was in his excellence’s presence and didn’t know. That’s cool.

  • @tariqsabbah2621
    @tariqsabbah2621 3 роки тому

    Excellent, excellent review. Glad I found you.

  • @COSolar6419
    @COSolar6419 3 роки тому

    I reserved an ID.4 Pro AWD in August 2021. Initially the availability was listed as April 2022 but later VW indicated it would be sometime later in 2022. They suggested upgrading to the Pro S model to get one sooner. I am going to wait and see if they can address the software issues some owners have reported.

  • @thumper1747
    @thumper1747 3 роки тому

    Good review and nice to have supplementary info graphics

  • @mdavid1955
    @mdavid1955 3 роки тому +15

    Assuming good quality control, this car will give Tesla a run for it's money. The ID.4 is a "practical EV" for average people.

  • @yggdrasil9039
    @yggdrasil9039 3 роки тому +1

    Good review. I wish VW would bring their EVs to Australia.

  • @johnny02128
    @johnny02128 3 роки тому +2

    BEST ID.4 REVIEW YET! ALSO BEST EV FOR YOUR AVERAGE AMERICAN BUYER! Great job Alex.

  • @daflipbizkit
    @daflipbizkit 3 роки тому +3

    Looking for an ev to take advantage of our solar. And man this looks tempting for a daily commuter to save some gas.

  • @jeffchen8178
    @jeffchen8178 2 роки тому

    I see a few other ID4 reviews, this review is the most complete version. I actually like this one over Model Y, and as the traditional looks. the only I wish is to have the same Tesla, full power at the beginning

  • @r.deeblanche6939
    @r.deeblanche6939 2 роки тому

    If I wasn't a Buy American EV owner, I'd certainly get one of these.

  • @CoralSea
    @CoralSea 3 роки тому +3

    Alex is one of the 3 best car reviewers on YT.

    • @naughtysauce4323
      @naughtysauce4323 3 роки тому

      Who are the other 2 and please don't say Doug

    • @laloajuria4678
      @laloajuria4678 3 роки тому +3

      Outofspec

    • @CoralSea
      @CoralSea 3 роки тому

      @@naughtysauce4323 Savagegeese and carconfections imo

    • @directorjustin
      @directorjustin 3 роки тому

      My top 3:
      1. Doug DeMuro
      2. Alex on Autos
      3. Redline Reviews

    • @backwoodsbungalow9674
      @backwoodsbungalow9674 3 роки тому

      In alphabetical order Alex on Autos, Bjorn Nyland & Thomas Autogefuhl. 😎

  • @Demobot1
    @Demobot1 3 роки тому +11

    I'll keep saying it. The ID.4 is the best value EV you can buy today.

    • @SpaceZeee
      @SpaceZeee 3 роки тому +4

      Lease*
      I wouldn't buy vw junk to hold long term.

    • @Demobot1
      @Demobot1 3 роки тому +1

      @@SpaceZeee To each their own.

    • @jackfishcampbell6745
      @jackfishcampbell6745 3 роки тому +2

      I'm pretty sure that I'd have way more faith in this car if it was a Toyota , Honda , or Kia/Hyundai . Especially after five years or so .

    • @Demobot1
      @Demobot1 3 роки тому +2

      @@jackfishcampbell6745 only time will tell.

    • @SpaceZeee
      @SpaceZeee 3 роки тому +1

      @@jackfishcampbell6745 my brother had an 09 Prius with 270k miles. Original engine, battery and transmission.
      My cousin had a Jetta that had transmission failure at 60k miles.

  • @frankpappalardo4455
    @frankpappalardo4455 2 роки тому

    Great job on the review

  • @gabrielarcari72
    @gabrielarcari72 3 роки тому +2

    Kia ev6 or Hyundai Ioniq 5 would be my prefered choice..

  • @pranavsheth56
    @pranavsheth56 2 роки тому

    Impressive skills for a review. Must be Auto expert guy! 3years of free charging and 18k less than Tesla I am sold.

  • @specled65
    @specled65 3 роки тому +6

    I would be interested in seeing a video comparing the Kia EV6 vs. ID.4 AWD. I believe the price points will be close and the KIA looks to have better charging speed, tech and performance. I am being told that it about 6-8 months before I can get either so I may just order them both and see how it plays out.

    • @tzarcoal1018
      @tzarcoal1018 3 роки тому +1

      really? i believe the EV6 is a fair bit mor expensive.

    • @markfitzpatrick6692
      @markfitzpatrick6692 3 роки тому

      The ionic 5 and kia ev 6 charge a little faster but they will only be available in zev states and I had problems getting my prius plug in registered in ohio from Maryland so I won’t go thru that again.

  • @markp6586
    @markp6586 3 роки тому

    This ev suv has the greatest potential... hoping for a longer range and more convenient and faster charging before I consider taking the plunge. Till then, I’d go with rav4 Hybrid or prime version (if I could get one...:)

  • @future62
    @future62 3 роки тому +1

    I hope the ID.6 comes soon. That with this power train is definitely on the family hauler replacement list

    • @laloajuria4678
      @laloajuria4678 3 роки тому

      Ppl really just need id3....too bad for America.

    • @future62
      @future62 3 роки тому

      @@laloajuria4678 please don't tell me what I need. My family of 4 with a dog and luggage for a road trip will not fit in an ID.3.

  • @margal
    @margal 3 роки тому +2

    I always enjoy watching your reviews. Great job! Can you add one more spec for the back seat: shoulder room? I think it's very important for families that have small kids using car seats. It would be interesting to know how much room you have left compared to other cars when you have car seat installed.

  • @beelust4312
    @beelust4312 2 роки тому

    Where can I place an order for the ID5? Like this EV for the money 💰. Great video.

  • @tHarvey1228
    @tHarvey1228 2 роки тому

    Great review - thanks.

  • @Jcewazhere
    @Jcewazhere 3 роки тому

    Right now I have a Bolt and love it... but the battery issue.
    So I'm looking at options and the two highest on my list are the AWD ID4 and the AWD Aptera. Very, very different vehicles.
    The Aptera could potentially never need to be plugged in (aside from road trips) given I drive far less than 40 miles per day on average. And during road trips the 1000 mile (or even the 600) is great. If congress passes one of the motorcycle/3 wheel EV tax credit bills on the docket then the Aptera as I've specced it out would be far cheaper. Without it they're about the same price. The Aptera is far more efficient with almost triple the miles per kWh expected. The insurance would be cheaper on the Aptera because it's technically a motorcycle. The Aptera is far quicker than the ID4, 0-60 in ~3s.
    However it has major caveats. It's only a 2 seater, while still being quite wide and long. It's not actually out yet, best bet is that it'd be >2 years before I took delivery while the ID4 could be in my driveway early-mid next year. And the Aptera wouldn't be quite as good on the light off-roading I occasionally do, or during the fun weather that Colorado throws at us, even with the 'off-roading' package increasing its ground clearance. Getting the Aptera fixed would be far harder than getting the ID4 fixed.
    Both are bigger than the Bolt, which I'm not nuts about. I like how small the Bolt is, my first car was a tiny 1986 Subaru GL hatchback, I've always liked smaller cars. All the other small EVs have crap range. Since it'll be my only car it has to be fairly practical. That's why I like hatchbacks so much, they can be small and still carry a bunch of people/stuff.
    IDK what do you all think? Gotta wait for GM to decide for sure what they're doing with the Bolt. If they'll give me a good price for the buyback I'll take it, but I may just wait for the battery swap.

  • @kevinn1158
    @kevinn1158 2 роки тому

    Price update up here in Canada. Model Y is 77k, top spec AWD ID4 is 58k less 5k govt rebate, Ioniq 5 AWD Ultimate 60k less 5k rebate , Q4 AWD mid trim 65k. I would put the Tesla last in my shopping list.

  • @M1911jln
    @M1911jln 3 роки тому +6

    Touch sensitive controls are one of the worst trends in automotive design. They are too hard to use while driving.

    • @rockwjz
      @rockwjz 3 роки тому +3

      And they are particularly bad in the ID.4

    • @RLTtizME
      @RLTtizME 3 роки тому +2

      I use a pencil taped to my hand.

    • @M1911jln
      @M1911jln 3 роки тому +2

      @@rockwjz Yeah, I was a little surprised that Alex didn't mention any concerns about the touch controls or about the infotainment system -- other commentators have called out the infotainment system for being laggy.

    • @rhett7716
      @rhett7716 3 роки тому

      @@M1911jln he did mention it !

  • @nathanielross8232
    @nathanielross8232 3 роки тому +1

    Great review Alex. Like this shorter time format. I hope this vehicle proves to be reliable, as it is a very compelling choice compared to the typical EV’s on the market currently.